libera/##covid-19/ Monday, 2020-02-17

BrainstormNew from Reddit WorldNews Live: /u/hasharin: Chinese wind energy faces impact due to coronavirus: Wood Mackenzie — from Google News: Diamond Princess cruise ship in Japan confirms 99 new coronavirus cases - The Guardian → https://is.gd/iGSajo14:59
BrainstormNew from Reddit WorldNews Live: /u/hasharin: Coronavirus: China disinfects cash in a bid to stop virus spreading — from Google News: Diamond Princess cruise ship in Japan confirms 99 new coronavirus cases - The Guardian → https://is.gd/y8JWgl15:14
David2020I don't believe the Chinese Communist Party (CCP)15:16
David2020Xi's communist malfeasance and misrule fueled China's coronavirus disaster15:17
David2020Chinese citizens deserve a truly clean, adaptive and responsive government with real transparency and democratic accountability.15:19
David2020https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/02/12/coronavirus-outbreak-china-disaster-xi-chinese-communist-party-misrule-column/4691349002/15:22
BrainstormNew from Google News: (news): Americans from coronavirus-stricken cruise ship in Japan flown back to U.S. - CBS News — from Google News: Diamond Princess cruise ship in Japan confirms 99 new coronavirus cases - The Guardian → https://is.gd/EfbttZ15:42
LjLTV said earlier that the virus having come from a Wuhan lab seems fairly likely now. i like how things go from "conspiracy theories, fake news, shame on you for spreading them" to "oh yeah by the way it was probably true"15:47
LjLi don't know if it's *really* "probably true", just saying how the media act15:47
David2020It's CCP's weapon from Wuhan lab.15:56
David2020Chinese Communist Party's biochemical weapon15:56
LjLoookay16:19
BrainstormNew from Google News: Novel coronavirus death toll tops 1,770 as US passengers on quarantined cruise ship fly home - CNN: Novel coronavirus death toll tops 1,770 as US passengers on quarantined cruise ship fly home CNN China’s Chernobyl Never Seems to Arise The Atlantic Did Xi Jinping know about the coronavirus outbreak earlier than first suggested? [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/Dw1t1P16:39
contingowell, of course you'll get some of those19:05
contingoweirdest one I heard so far is that CCP are going to authorize euthanasia of anyone who tests positive19:06
BrainstormNew from Global Times: (news): Shanghai: O2O data platform helps city gather epidemic related information — from Google News: Diamond Princess cruise ship in Japan confirms 99 new coronavirus cases - The Guardian → https://is.gd/cI5YBP19:15
mefistofeleshey LjL19:23
LjLhi19:24
LjLcontingo, i can even remotely share some of their concerns sometimes... but there's a line, fuzzy as it may be19:25
contingowell be careful not to get euthanized19:26
LjLthere are worse outcomes19:30
BrainstormNew from Google News: (news): Americans from coronavirus-stricken cruise ship in Japan flown back to U.S. - CBS News — from Google News: Diamond Princess cruise ship in Japan confirms 99 new coronavirus cases - The Guardian → https://is.gd/EfbttZ19:37
LjLcontingo, anyway, what TV said wasn't about the conspiracy-theory-ish level 4 virology lab (though they mentioned that in passing), but a center supposedly less than 500m away from the infamous seafood market, where animal experimentation was taking place, including on bats, and some time ago someone had an accident with a bat, and subsequently put themselves in voluntary quarantine19:43
contingoI read somewhere that although showing close homology with bat ones, the Covid-19 is nested within a group of recently sequenced pangolin coronaviruses19:56
LjLi've heard of the pangolin thing without digging into it. but from what i could gather in the mangled version of news tv gave, the genome of the virus in this particular bat that bit the person was was mapped, so there may be somewhat tangible evidence20:01
BrainstormNew from Global Times: (news): Flood prep — from Google News: Diamond Princess cruise ship in Japan confirms 99 new coronavirus cases - The Guardian → https://is.gd/45yfVO20:06
LjLthis cruise ship is just churnin' them out20:09
LjLmefistofeles, "thanks" to the cruise ship it shouldn't be too hard to confirm a rough mortality rate since you were perplexed about the one in Hubei being much higher than elsewhere. it's a cruise ship, likely stuffed with old people. they're not tens of thousands so they'll be properly cared for, but whatever is the baseline fatality rate will show20:11
contingoand cruise ships20:18
BrainstormNew from Global Times: (news): Afghan president hopes 'reduction in violence' will hold — from Google News: Americans from coronavirus-stricken cruise ship in Japan flown back to U.S. - CBS News → https://is.gd/PpOp8b20:20
BrainstormNew from Global Times: (news): Coronavirus epidemic batters China's energy, mineral trade — from Google News: Americans from coronavirus-stricken cruise ship in Japan flown back to U.S. - CBS News → https://is.gd/zVwDcy20:49
BrainstormNew from Google News: Americans from coronavirus-stricken cruise ship in Japan flown back to U.S. - CBS News: Americans from coronavirus-stricken cruise ship in Japan flown back to U.S. CBS News 300 Americans evacuated from the Diamond Princess cruise ship are back in the US, including 14 who have coronavirus CNN Coronavirus Updates: Cruise Ship [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/EfbttZ21:17
BrainstormNew from Global Times: (news): Cambodian hospital project can be completed on schedule despite virus onslaught: manager — from Google News: Americans from coronavirus-stricken cruise ship in Japan flown back to U.S. - CBS News → https://is.gd/lq7oE022:44
BrainstormNew from Google News: Americans from coronavirus-stricken cruise ship in Japan flown back to U.S. - CBS News: Americans from coronavirus-stricken cruise ship in Japan flown back to U.S. CBS News 300 Americans evacuated from the Diamond Princess cruise ship are back in the US, including 14 who have coronavirus CNN 14 Americans aboard evacuation plane [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/EfbttZ23:13

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