libera/##covid-19/ Saturday, 2020-02-29

pwr22<LjL "so, for utter clarity (i have pe"> That's my understanding yeah00:45
LjLthanks00:45
pwr22I'm not a doctor or anything though, just someone with high blood pressure00:46
pwr22😅00:46
contingolooks like you guys have it cover00:47
contingo*covered00:47
contingothat class of meds was new to me00:47
LjLpwr22, i expect doctors to be mostly very busy at this juncture00:49
LjLcontingo, you mean the distinction between the inhibitors and the ARBs?00:49
contingoyah00:49
LjLcontingo, well it *seems* like the fact ours is an ARB is a comforting thought00:50
LjLi mean, it is a comforting thought00:50
LjLif it's just due to pwr22 not being a doctor, it'll still be comforting and then we'll die00:50
LjLwhich happens anyway00:50
LjLi'm not actually being nonchalant, just trying pretty badly00:50
contingoshare the good news with your family00:50
BrainstormNew from Google News Italia at 23:37 UTC: Coronavirus, il contagio alle porte di Roma, positiva giovane donna contagiata - Il Messaggero: Coronavirus, il contagio alle porte di Roma, positiva giovane donna contagiata Il Messaggero Coronavirus, primo caso di contagio nel Lazio: è una donna residente a Fiumicino La Repubblica Coronavirus, positiva donna [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/aChWJO00:59
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 23:51 UTC: Coronavirus: Italy death toll rises to 21 as UK confirms 20th case – live updates: Italian civil protection chief confirms 820 cases in the country while Boris Johnson says Covid-19 is UK government’s top priority. Follow live news → https://is.gd/f3p9hS01:11
LjLcontingo, i did, at least my mom, she didn't seem too impressed but eh01:13
LjLi'll try to fake more positivity i guess01:13
LjLwith them i mean01:13
contingouhguehg that was exhausting03:13
LjLcontingo, uhguehg to you03:16
contingothere's so much more left03:18
LjLcontingo, you have 86000 seconds left03:19
LjLor even more!03:19
contingoi have one more hour tonight, Sat afternoon and eve, and an hour on Sun morning03:21
contingobut it's about brain capacity03:21
contingosadly03:22
LjLcontingo, think pragmatic then, foot, door, imperfection still gets you through, even though you'll cringe at yourself if imperfection devolves into bleh03:22
contingoit has to be near perfect by myself for it to not be bleh in front of people03:24
LjLmy 0.002 cents03:26
LjLi transcribed almost the entire WHO press release earlier03:26
LjLi started with the idea of summarizing it03:26
LjLbecause i knew i couldn't understand most of the english03:27
LjLso i only wanted to write the few important points i could understand03:27
LjLthen i ended up understanding most of it, and being able to even keep up with transcribing03:27
LjLi am pretty sure that if i had started transcribing with the *intention* of transcribing it all, i'd have failed03:27
LjLbecause no, of course i can't understand all these english accents03:27
LjLno, of course i cannot type fast enough03:27
LjLno of course i cannot follow and type at the same time03:28
LjLbut instead i set a goal i wasn't scared of, and magically i surpassed it03:28
contingowell that is sort of vaguely the mental process03:31
contingoexcept I know the pieces are well within my ability, it's just about when I meet the goal03:32
contingoI start by just reading through messily, at or away from the keyboard03:32
contingothat establishes enough to do a bit of hands separately work, if needed03:33
contingothen I run through many time much more carefully and get more interpretative idea while converging on a fingering03:34
contingothen I commit to a fingering and write in what's needed to outline it03:34
contingothen it's metronome work alongside some memorization03:34
contingothat gets me to fluency03:34
contingomy idea of fluency03:35
contingomaybe the reading through messily at the very start is someone else's idea of fluency, but it's not this guy's, or he could have asked 1000 other people03:35
contingoif there's a bit that really doesn't stick I have to analyze it more, structurally, and this one piece is like that in every bar03:38
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 02:35 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus latest updates: US postpones Asean summit, South Korea reports 594 new cases – latest news → https://is.gd/e0dMdV03:45
LjLliving up to others' expectations is scary03:46
LjLespecially when we aren't quite sure what they are03:46
contingohe wants to record the pieces03:55
contingoand contribute them to various channels where the high standards are evident03:56
contingoone of the latest UK cases is from Surrey with an unknown transmission route03:56
contingoSurrey was one of my other choices if I didn't fancy staying in London03:56
LjLshit → fan soon in europe03:57
LjLin italy, i think the next two days will show how healthcare can cope with way too many patients03:57
LjLor maybe it won't show it because it'll be sort of hidden away03:57
contingoanother little slog and then bed04:12
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 05:57 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus latest updates: Australia adds Iran to travel bans, South Korea reports 594 new cases – live → https://is.gd/e0dMdV07:13
sneephttps://m.stamfordadvocate.com/opinion/article/I-have-the-coronavirus-So-far-it-isn-t-that-bad-15093664.php07:16
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 07:49 UTC: Coronavirus: South Korea cases surge as Australia bans Iran arrivals: US says three new cases are unrelated to travel, while UK authorities are racing to understand how Essex man became infected → https://is.gd/iikNbt09:03
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 08:24 UTC: Coronavirus latest: South Korea reports 'critical moment' after 594 new cases – live: US strengthens travel advice, raising Iran and Italy to a level three, advising people to ‘avoid nonessential travel’. Follow live news → https://is.gd/e0dMdV09:40
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test) at 09:00 UTC: CoronaVirusInfo: 'They have changed the course of this outbreak:' Revelations from handling of coronavirus in China → https://is.gd/FcBXUq10:05
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 09:18 UTC: Coronavirus latest: South Korea reports 'critical moment' after 813 new cases – live: US strengthens travel advice, raising Iran and Italy to a level three, advising people to ‘avoid nonessential travel’. Follow live news → https://is.gd/e0dMdV10:29
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 09:28 UTC: Coronavirus news: South Korea reports 'critical moment' after 813 new cases – live updates: US strengthens travel advice, raising Iran and Italy to a level three, advising people to ‘avoid nonessential travel’. Follow live news → https://is.gd/e0dMdV10:42
Albrightsneep: Interesting read.11:08
Albrighthttps://www.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENCE/Israeli-scientists-In-three-weeks-we-will-have-coronavirus-vaccine-619101 - Israeli lab could be close to developing a vaccine based on research they did for a coronavirus which affects poultry. Probably good to take with a grain of salt for now.11:35
RougeRmrn13:17
contingogoooood morning13:29
contingoafternoon13:29
contingoit's morning on weekend days until 2pm13:30
theglassmorning13:45
RougeRits always morning on irc13:47
RougeRwe are running on UGT ( Universal Greeting Time )13:48
python476hoi back14:08
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 14:14 UTC: Ted Cruz tried to mock AOC's scientific knowledge – it didn't end well: The Texas senator tried to pick a fight after Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez called out Mike Pence’s coronavirus credentials → https://is.gd/SVyqxX15:36
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 14:23 UTC: Three more people test positive for coronavirus in England: Government draws up emergency legislation as latest three cases bring total in UK to 23 → https://is.gd/LfOKXg15:49
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 14:47 UTC: Coronavirus news: South Korea reports 'critical moment' after 813 new cases – live updates: US strengthens travel advice, raising Iran and Italy to a level three, advising people to ‘avoid nonessential travel’. Follow live news → https://is.gd/e0dMdV16:01
LjLgood... definitely not morning16:29
LjLpwr22, please tell me when you're around16:29
pwr22I'm always around 🤯16:31
LjLpwr22, then can i have a PM16:32
pwr22Sure16:32
LjLpwr22, are you failing to be always around or is this not working16:43
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 15:38 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Markets expected to fall further as coronavirus hits China's economy → https://is.gd/0rFQuk16:50
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 15:54 UTC: Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe family believe she has coronavirus: Despite reports of coronavirus in Evin prison, staff are refusing to test her, say campaigners → https://is.gd/CUSO7b17:02
pwr22Sorry, was afk 😅17:14
pwr22So yeah, fail on my part 😁17:14
BrainstormNew from Google News Italia at 15:57 UTC: (news): Coronavirus, scuole sospese fino 8 marzo nelle tre Regioni cluster ma restano aperte in tutte le altre - Salute & Benessere - Agenzia ANSA → https://is.gd/kTbacq17:14
LjLthat's saying schools are going to stay closed until march 8, but only in the three regions most affected17:22
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 16:21 UTC: Coronavirus: South Korea reports 'critical moment' after 813 new cases – latest updates: US strengthens travel advice, raising Iran and Italy to a level three, advising people to ‘avoid nonessential travel’. Follow live news → https://is.gd/e0dMdV17:39
LjLi think that's the amount of cases that's going to make it critical for italian healthcare, too17:40
LjLbetween today and tomorrow we'll see what we're capable of - or not17:40
pwr22🤞17:41
BrainstormNew from Google News Italia at 16:52 UTC: (news): Coronavirus in Italia e nel mondo: le ultime notizie - Corriere della Sera → https://is.gd/oVFuJU18:03
contingothe ultimate naughty18:06
contingonaughty virus18:06
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 17:17 UTC: Coronavirus: South Korea reports 'critical moment' after 813 new cases – latest updates: US strengthens travel advice, raising Iran and Italy to a level three, advising people to ‘avoid nonessential travel’. Follow live news → https://is.gd/e0dMdV18:28
BrainstormNew from Google News Italia at 17:44 UTC: (news): Coronavirus. oltre 1000 positivi, 29 morti. Scuole chiuse in Veneto, Lombardia e Emilia-Romagna - Salute & Benessere - Agenzia ANSA → https://is.gd/kTbacq18:53
LjL%cases USA19:17
BrainstormLjL: Sorry, USA not found. Either there aren't cases, or it's under a different name.19:17
LjL%cases United States19:17
BrainstormLjL: Sorry, United States not found. Either there aren't cases, or it's under a different name.19:17
LjL...19:17
LjL%cases US19:17
BrainstormLjL: In Unassigned Location (From Diamond Princess), US, there are 44 cases, 0 deaths (0.0% of cases), 0 recoveries as of 2020-02-28T20:03:03.19:17
BrainstormLjL: It's too early to even try to estimate mortality in this area.19:17
LjLunfortunately "US" *is* the country name being used19:22
LjLbut it matches locations containing the "us" substring instead19:22
LjLlet's see what i can do about that19:22
LjLBrainstorm, reload covid19:28
BrainstormLjL: <module 'covid' from '/home/brainstorm/brainstorm/bot/modules/covid.py'> (version: 2020-02-27 21:20:15)19:28
LjL%cases US19:28
BrainstormLjL: In Unassigned Location (From Diamond Princess), US, there are 44 cases, 0 deaths (0.0% of cases), 0 recoveries as of 2020-02-28T20:03:03.19:28
BrainstormLjL: It's too early to even try to estimate mortality in this area.19:28
LjLno, no19:28
mefistofeleshey LjL , how are things going?19:38
LjLmefistofeles, having a bit of an emotional breakdown right now but it's okay19:39
mefistofeles%cases Germany19:39
Brainstormmefistofeles: In all areas, Germany, there are 48 cases, 0 deaths (0.0% of cases), 16 recoveries as of 2020-02-28T00:13:18.19:39
Brainstormmefistofeles: It's too early to even try to estimate mortality in this area.19:39
mefistofelesLjL: why?19:39
mefistofelesI mean, other than the obvious19:39
LjLwell, personal reasons that surface because of this all, and i normally just suppress from my brain19:39
mefistofelesI see19:39
LjLyou're in germany mefistofeles?19:40
mefistofelesLjL: yes19:40
LjLi'm afraid it's about to spike there19:41
mefistofelesit's likely, yes19:41
LjLhopefully with not much blame on us19:41
mefistofeleswell, too late, haha19:41
mefistofelesthe only case in this city is from a guy that was skiing in Italy xD19:41
BrainstormNew from Gazzetta Ufficiale italiana at 18:33 UTC: ISTITUTO PER LA VIGILANZA SULLE ASSICURAZIONI - PROVVEDIMENTO 14 febbraio 2020: Modifiche e integrazioni al provvedimento n. 72 del 16 aprile 2018 inmateria di responsabilita'  civile  auto,  con  particolare  riguardoall'attestazione sullo stato del rischio, nonche' all'allegato  1  alprovvedimento [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/YmwY6Y19:42
LjLmefistofeles, well... yes, most recent cases in Europe and elsewhere have been due to Italians19:42
LjLbut it's not like we're doing it on purpose19:42
mefistofelesI see you made Brainstorm italian xD19:42
LjLit posts some things from italian feeds19:42
LjLthis is the organism that officially posts new laws after they are signed by the president and in force19:42
mefistofelesLjL: of course, nobody is doing that on purpose19:42
LjLthis is something about insurance companies19:42
mefistofelesit's just hard to control, as usual19:43
LjLmefistofeles, but you sometimes hear terrible statements about chinese people19:43
LjLprobably about italians now19:43
LjLi have no idea what that law says19:43
LjLit's the trick where they only change a previous law at specific points19:43
LjLand what gets published is basically... the diff19:44
LjLexcept not in machine-readable terms19:44
LjLi hope they're not indemnifying insurance companies of anything related to this19:44
BrainstormNew from Google News Italia at 18:42 UTC: (news): Coronavirus. oltre 1000 positivi, 29 morti. Scuole chiuse in Veneto, Lombardia e Emilia-Romagna - Salute & Benessere - Agenzia ANSA → https://is.gd/kTbacq19:54
LjLwe passed 1000 cases, and deaths rose to 2919:58
mefistofelescurious how the mortality rate is like exact19:58
LjLwhich means... we're back to 3% from yesterday's 2.5%?19:58
mefistofelesit's a bit higer for men, fwiw19:58
LjLi'm not keeping a grip on myself for long19:58
mefistofeles*higher19:59
LjLmefistofeles, in general, or outside china?19:59
mefistofelesin general19:59
LjLmefistofeles, then beware of that number19:59
LjLit's 2.8% men, 1.7% women19:59
LjLbut19:59
LjLin china, 50% of men smoke, 2% of women do19:59
LjLin many western countries that proportion is very different19:59
mefistofelesthe thing is that the X chromosome has some pathogen recognition genes19:59
mefistofelesso if you have both it appears to be more probable for them to act20:00
LjLwell, maybe20:00
mefistofelesthat's at least one of the reasonings20:00
LjLbut the difference in smoking rates seems like an easy culprit too20:00
LjLshould see the non-china data20:00
LjLbut i don't have those divided into men and women20:00
LjL"patient one" is still struggling with surviving20:03
mefistofelesLjL: in Italy?20:04
LjLyes20:04
LjLhe's 3820:04
LjLi'm his age20:04
mefistofelesthat doesn't say much, tbh20:04
LjLTV keeps saying, the dead people are all over 80 and had previous conditions20:05
LjLbut i can't believe that magically justifies having 3% mortality when other countries (except Wuhan) have 1% or so20:05
mefistofelesI can see other countries lying or just not even caring for it20:06
mefistofelessuch as Iran and Saudi Arabia and such20:06
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 18:54 UTC: Coronavirus: South Korea reports 'critical moment' after 813 new cases – latest updates: US strengthens travel advice, raising Iran and Italy to a level three, advising people to ‘avoid nonessential travel’. Follow live news → https://is.gd/e0dMdV20:06
mefistofelesLjL: btw, Iran official death rate is much higher20:06
LjLmefistofeles, that doesn't make me feel any better indeed20:07
LjLIran is a mess i don't even want to look at20:07
LjLnot in a bad way20:07
LjLi just need to protect my sanity to an extent20:07
mefistofelesLjL: you are prone to panicking, I see20:07
LjLyes, i am most of the time20:08
LjLbut i feel in this case given where i am it's more justified than usual20:08
mefistofelesnothing can be done if that's the case, just follow the recommendations20:08
mefistofelespanicking or overdoing stuff may lead to errors, btw20:08
LjLmefistofeles, i am aware... but i have bad family dynamics, i can't convince my parents to take precautions, and whatever i could do on my own accord, if i do it, they'll get mad20:09
LjLwhich may be counterproductive, they are about to snap too20:09
LjLmy mom especially20:09
LjLthey are much more at risk than i am20:09
LjLmefistofeles, we should have prepared for this weeks ago, physically and mentally20:10
LjLincluding how to cope with one another's panic20:10
mefistofelesKorea is a really interesting case, of course there the health care system is pretty advanced20:10
LjLmefistofeles, last someone checked, italy had the second-best healthcare in the world, although i was already in disbelief of that... but they checked in 2008, and then the financial crisis happened, and we're like the only country that never got out of that one20:11
LjLnow think of the economic crisis we'll all have... god, even if this ends "well" in some health-specific way...20:11
LjLi already lived a "wow, things are never going to be the same again" moment20:11
LjLdidn't need another20:11
LjLwell... two20:12
mefistofelesI don't think Italy was ever the best health care system, fwiw20:12
LjLand this one will last a long time20:12
mefistofelesnot even close, imho20:12
mefistofelesbut I cannot tell for sure, of course20:12
LjLyeah, it doesn't feel like it20:12
LjLbut data are data20:12
LjLdata sometimes lie20:12
LjLbut they are still usually more objective than any of us individually can be20:12
LjLit's the best objectivity we can get, although it's not even close20:12
LjLmefistofeles, what i know for sure is the healthcare system works better in Lombardy in particular, and the north in general, than the south... much better20:13
LjLso in a way i guess it's good the cluster was in Lombardy20:13
LjLjust not very good for me20:13
LjLbut then again, this will be everywhere at some point and everyone will be dealing with it20:13
LjLanybody listened to today's WHO press conf?20:14
mefistofelesI didn't20:14
mefistofelescan you do a recap?20:14
LjLmefistofeles, no, i only listened to yesterday's one (and mostly transcribe it in here in realtime, i have a pastebin with *that* if you want it)20:21
LjLi slept in today20:21
LjLi was wondering if anyone else had watched it20:22
LjLhere, fwiw, https://paste.ee/p/xlhqg is my notes from yesterday's press conference20:23
mefistofelesthanks20:24
mefistofelesthough, again the paste.ee thing, even here in Germany xD20:24
LjLmefistofeles, you can get better line breaks if you press the third button on the right20:24
LjLoh right20:24
LjLmefistofeles, bpaste was down yesterday though20:24
LjLthe topic is using yet another one now20:24
mefistofelesI tried it in Göttingen and it worked, but now it's not working here20:25
LjLwhich is nice because it allows markdown20:25
LjLno problem, i'll get it onto the other one20:25
LjLshameful they block sites like these though20:25
LjLgreat wall of... europe?20:25
mefistofeleshaha20:25
LjLmefistofeles, https://dpaste.org/6REX20:26
LjLthis makes the linebreaks completely different20:26
LjLexaggerates in the opposite direction20:26
mefistofelesok, thanks20:26
LjLmakes no difference clicking on the wordwrap box  :\20:26
LjLclick on "raw"20:26
LjLthat's going to make it more readable20:26
LjLi felt they were very careful to avoid making it sound extremely dramatic20:27
LjLbut at the same time, they needed to convey to governments that they needed to *act much more*20:27
LjLhard to use the same outlet to tell governments they should panic, but citizens they should not20:27
LjLhence the whole semantic thing with "containment" vs "mitigation", where he said ultimately you do containment knowing you'll fail, but it might achieve mitigation20:28
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 19:22 UTC: Coronavirus: Trump says US response 'most aggressive in modern history': US confirms first death in Washington state and strengthens travel advice, raising Iran and Italy to a level three. Follow live news → https://is.gd/e0dMdV20:31
mefistofelesLjL: ok, sounds like what I expected from the WHO20:31
LjLi don't know if i do well in getting so involved, like transcribing the whole thing... on the one hand i get exposed to harsh facts, on the other i feel i'm doing something about the events (since apparently i can do very little at home)20:31
mefistofelesLjL: so are you staying at home? Is the government telling people to stay at home?20:32
LjLyes, and no. let's not get any deeper into my specific situation though ;(20:33
LjLthe WHO did tell >60 year olds to basically stay at home, though20:33
LjLhe phrased it differently, but that's what he meant20:33
LjLin Milan people are working, although many companies have closed down of their own accord, and use remote working as much as possible20:34
mefistofelesI mean, if you can avoid going out, sure20:34
LjLsome other business had to close down by law20:34
LjLthey have reopened bars, pubs and clubs now though20:34
LjLi think that's a mistake, although they are limiting some activities inside them20:34
LjLbut are they really20:34
mefistofelesshould close all churches though xD20:34
LjLschools will remain closed20:34
LjLmefistofeles, oh i got mad at that one at first20:35
LjLthey only instructed priests to give the communion in plates instead of by hand20:35
LjLand we were like "what? CANCEL MASS FFS"20:35
LjLeventually they did... i think20:35
LjLi don't want to spread rumors20:35
LjLi will say that the Vatican has cancelled some events because the pope is mildly sick20:35
LjLthat's all they said to the press, that i'm aware of20:35
LjLsome niche media have already jumped the gun20:36
mefistofelesyeah, I've heard that20:36
mefistofelesnothing will be lost if he dies, fwiw20:36
LjLmefistofeles, you could say that, but i think it would have a devastating psychological effect on people in some country, mainly mine20:37
mefistofelesyeah, for sure20:37
mefistofelesmine as well20:37
LjLalso many south american countries, although they are little affected for the time being20:37
mefistofelesthey may have already some cases, but not diagnosed20:37
mefistofelesI have the feeling that's the case, fwiw20:37
LjLyeah, i'm sure that's true almost everywhere20:38
LjLmaybe not antarctica20:38
mefistofelesyeah, or Madagascar20:45
mefistofeles:P20:45
theglass<mefistofeles> nothing will be lost if he dies, fwiw20:48
theglassmefistofeles couldn't say anything but this20:48
theglasshi all, btw20:49
mefistofelestheglass: haha, right?20:50
theglassright what?20:50
mefistofelesvm20:50
mefistofelesnvm20:50
theglasshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q72w10D9_x020:51
mefistofelesexactly20:52
theglasswhy in the world is it accelerated20:52
theglasscopyright avoidance?20:53
mefistofelesprobably20:53
theglassI had to slow it down20:53
mefistofelesFinally Nirvana has some rhythm20:53
mefistofelesxD20:53
mefistofelestheglass: apparently it's live recordings20:54
theglasssome frequencies seems to have been cut in the accelerating process20:54
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 19:40 UTC: Coronavirus: Trump says US response 'most aggressive in modern history' – live: US confirms first death in Washington state and strengthens travel advice, raising Iran and Italy to a level three. Follow live news → https://is.gd/e0dMdV20:55
theglassah you're right now20:55
theglassit's a live.. but it started really fast20:55
mefistofelesyeah20:56
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 20:04 UTC: Coronavirus: Trump says US response 'most aggressive in modern history' – as it happened: US confirms first death in Washington state and strengthens travel advice, raising Iran and Italy to a level three. Follow live news → https://is.gd/e0dMdV21:20
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 20:18 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus: British pensions set to take a hit from market tumble → https://is.gd/QIJJtE21:44
BrainstormNew from Google News Italia at 20:50 UTC: (news): Coronavirus, più di mille le persone positive in Italia. I morti sono 29 - Rai News → https://is.gd/h9bJf921:56
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 20:55 UTC: Trump fends off criticism of 'hoax' remark after first US coronavirus death: Death confirmed in Washington state as president says he used word hoax ‘with regard to Democrats and what they were saying’ → https://is.gd/PwKfdC22:09
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 22:00 UTC: Ben Youngs just short of the line as he approaches his 100th cap: The coronavirus is almost certain to at least delay a milestone for the England scrum-half In an ideal world for Ben Youngs, he will finish the Six Nations campaign in two weeks’ time in Rome with another winner’s medal, having become the second [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/Bh2KHU23:10
AlbrightReddit poster saying he has COVID-19, though he hasn't actually been tested for it, so take with a grain of salt. https://old.reddit.com/r/nyc/comments/fayko1/my_covid19_story_brooklyn/23:25
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 22:07 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: NHS plans to deploy ‘Dad’s Army’ of retired doctors if Covid-19 spreads → https://is.gd/B2ctIL23:34
tinwhiskersJesus. What a clusterfuck, Albright.23:52
tinwhiskersTrump says US response 'most aggressive in modern history' -- most aggressive denial23:53

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