| aradesh | oh yeah... | 00:02 |
|---|---|---|
| aradesh | you wouldn't really want to be in hospital giving birth with all this going on | 00:02 |
| aradesh | there's a woman at work actually who was very heavily pregnant, and she had just started her maternity leave | 00:03 |
| aradesh | i wonder if she's had her baby yet | 00:03 |
| LjL | maybe she should rethink giving birth at home | 00:03 |
| aradesh | i do wonder, will this coronavirus result in a baby boom? all of these husbands and wives who usually are at work, stuck at home with nothing to do | 00:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from Ars Technica at 23:00 UTC: Science: Who lives, who dies? Guidelines for hospitals in the time of COVID-19 — from r/WorldNews at 23:00: Livethread VIII: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/fUJ8mR | 00:06 |
| LjL | aradesh, yeah, others have wondered :P | 00:07 |
| aradesh | aw, i thought it was just me who thought of it :P | 00:08 |
| darsie | I bet it will. | 00:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 23:05 UTC: Coronavirus US live: US now has more cases than any other country: US now has 82,404 confirmed cases, according to tracker New York governor rails at Congress for lack of aid After surviving Katrina, New Orleans battles Covid-19 Record 3.3 million Americans file for unemployment See all our coronavirus coverage [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/GiVdxL | 00:12 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +490 cases (now 531117), +5 deaths (now 24018), +14 recoveries (now 123380) 🔸 Washington, US: +226 cases (now 3207), +2 deaths (now 147) 🔸 US: +514 cases (now 83530), +4 deaths (now 1201) 🔹 Alabama, US: +16 cases (now 517) 🔹 Antigua and Barbuda: +4 cases (now 7) 🔹 Argentina: +1 deaths (now 9) 🔹 Aruba: +9 cases (now 28) [... want %more?] | 00:22 |
| pwr22 | Another feature has been kindly contributed to CovBot | 00:23 |
| pwr22 | !risk 30 | 00:23 |
| CovBot | I estimate a 30 year old patient sick with COVID-19 has a 99.9% chance of survival, a 11.5% liklihood of needing to go to hospital, a 2.6% risk of needing intensive care there and a 0.1% chance of death. | 00:23 |
| ryouma | !risk 84 | 00:24 |
| CovBot | I estimate a 84 year old patient sick with COVID-19 has a 89.6% chance of survival, a 45.5% liklihood of needing to go to hospital, a 17.5% risk of needing intensive care there and a 10.4% chance of death. | 00:24 |
| AimHere | !risk 5 | 00:24 |
| CovBot | I estimate a 5 year old patient sick with COVID-19 has a 100.0% chance of survival, a 0.0% liklihood of needing to go to hospital, a 0.0% risk of needing intensive care there and a 0.0% chance of death. | 00:24 |
| AimHere | !risk 150 | 00:25 |
| ryouma | !risk 62 | 00:25 |
| CovBot | The risk model only handles ages between 0 and 110 | 00:25 |
| CovBot | I estimate a 62 year old patient sick with COVID-19 has a 97.9% chance of survival, a 31.6% liklihood of needing to go to hospital, a 11.4% risk of needing intensive care there and a 2.1% chance of death. | 00:25 |
| AimHere | bot is no fun | 00:25 |
| AimHere | !risk 110 | 00:25 |
| CovBot | I estimate a 110 year old patient sick with COVID-19 has a 42.2% chance of survival, a 61.8% liklihood of needing to go to hospital, a 24.7% risk of needing intensive care there and a 57.8% chance of death. | 00:26 |
| AimHere | Wow. Hospitalization is almost death | 00:26 |
| pwr22 | !source | 00:27 |
| CovBot | I was created by Peter Roberts and MIT licensed on Github at https://github.com/pwr22/covbot. I fetch new data every 15 minutes from http://offloop.net/covid19h/unconfirmed.csv, https://www.arcgis.com/sharing/rest/content/items/ca796627a2294c51926865748c4a56e8/data and https://www.arcgis.com/sharing/rest/content/items/b684319181f94875a6879bbc833ca3a6/data. Risk estimates are based on the model at | 00:27 |
| CovBot | https://www.desmos.com/calculator/v0zif7tflm. | 00:27 |
| pwr22 | If anyone wants to look at the curves | 00:27 |
| ryouma | is that a percent of needing intensive care IF hospital, or overall? | 00:27 |
| ryouma | curves are which link? | 00:27 |
| pwr22 | Read the text 😁 | 00:28 |
| pwr22 | The last one | 00:28 |
| AimHere | I suspect it's P(intensive care) rather than P(Intensive care | hospital) | 00:28 |
| pwr22 | <ryouma "is that a percent of needing int"> I'm assuming overall but I'm unsure since I didn't implement it | 00:28 |
| AimHere | Wait, so doesn't that mean 33.1% of 110-year-olds will die but won't need intensive care | 00:29 |
| AimHere | The bot is predicting some pretty brutal triage policies in place | 00:29 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 23:18 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: China closes borders to foreign nationals, as global infections pass 500,000 — from r/WorldNews at 23:18: Livethread VIII: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/JdZU97 | 00:31 |
| ecks | how the tables have turned | 00:31 |
| ecks | !risk 24 | 00:32 |
| aradesh | is there any merit to the idea that flu jabs might weaken peoples immunity in general, to things like coronavirus? or is that just not how it works? i'd imagine the immune system gets the same benefits from a vaccine as it would an actual virus | 00:33 |
| CovBot | I estimate a 24 year old patient sick with COVID-19 has a 100.0% chance of survival, a 7.8% liklihood of needing to go to hospital, a 0.9% risk of needing intensive care there and a 0.0% chance of death. | 00:33 |
| ecks | i'll take it | 00:33 |
| aradesh | my dad seems to think that all the old people are dying from coronavirus because of their flu jabs | 00:33 |
| bin_bash | he's wrong | 00:33 |
| aradesh | yes, i thought it doesn't make sense | 00:34 |
| bin_bash | yeah it doesnt | 00:35 |
| aradesh | i mean, you get the same immunity from the vaccine, as you would the actual virus right? | 00:35 |
| aradesh | how about, if you've become immune to more viruses in the past, does it take your body longer to defeat a previously unknown virus? | 00:36 |
| the_owls_are_not | !risk 35 | 00:36 |
| CovBot | I estimate a 35 year old patient sick with COVID-19 has a 99.7% chance of survival, a 14.7% liklihood of needing to go to hospital, a 3.9% risk of needing intensive care there and a 0.3% chance of death. | 00:37 |
| LjL | aradesh: not really | 00:37 |
| the_owls_are_not | !risk 70 | 00:37 |
| ryouma | idk if it same immunity. could be different epitopes? | 00:37 |
| CovBot | I estimate a 70 year old patient sick with COVID-19 has a 96.2% chance of survival, a 36.7% liklihood of needing to go to hospital, a 13.6% risk of needing intensive care there and a 3.8% chance of death. | 00:37 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +260 cases (now 531377), +16 deaths (now 24034) 🔹 Alabama, US: +16 cases (now 517) 🔹 Antigua and Barbuda: +4 cases (now 7) 🔹 Argentina: +1 deaths (now 9) 🔹 Aruba: +9 cases (now 28) 🔹 Australia: +190 cases (now 2996) 🔹 Austria: +62 cases (now 6909) 🔹 Bahamas: +4 cases (now 9) 🔹 Bermuda: +8 cases (now 15) [... want %more?] | 00:37 |
| LjL | Your new bot feature makes me anxious ;( | 00:38 |
| aradesh | my dad's theory is that the body tries its old solutions to viruses before beginning to try to make new ones, so he believes that the more things you've become immune to, the longer it takes for your body to fix it | 00:38 |
| spybert | !risk 60 | 00:38 |
| aradesh | that's why he thinks flu vaccines have weakened the immune system of old people | 00:38 |
| CovBot | I estimate a 60 year old patient sick with COVID-19 has a 98.1% chance of survival, a 30.4% liklihood of needing to go to hospital, a 10.8% risk of needing intensive care there and a 1.9% chance of death. | 00:39 |
| ryouma | i would think the opposite | 00:39 |
| aradesh | it'd be nice if i had an easy answer to dispell his thinking | 00:39 |
| aradesh | because he always comes out with this sort of rubbish | 00:39 |
| ryouma | if you are immune to more viruses, maybe some things will be partly matched | 00:39 |
| the_owls_are_not | 96% for a 70 year. That's really not too bad. | 00:39 |
| aradesh | ryouma: yeah, but suppose it's something completely alien, like coronavirus | 00:39 |
| aradesh | that no previous solutions work on | 00:39 |
| PlanckWalk | The immune system isn't some serial machin | 00:39 |
| LjL | aradesh: I think there is no easy answer probably because there is a ton of details about the immune system that we don't know about in complete detail. But the null hypothesis... I mean, your dad's hypothesis is sort of random, by default I'd assume not until proven otherwise | 00:40 |
| aradesh | yup | 00:40 |
| aradesh | that's my feeling too | 00:40 |
| aradesh | but he comes up with fancy ideas like this, and then goes around asserting them as 100% fact to everyone | 00:40 |
| aradesh | in a "did you know, it works like this!" tone | 00:40 |
| PlanckWalk | Sounds familiar :( | 00:40 |
| aradesh | lol | 00:40 |
| aradesh | old many syndrome? | 00:40 |
| ryouma | send him to khan academy immunology series. it is excellent. | 00:40 |
| aradesh | old man* | 00:40 |
| LjL | aradesh: some people here could probably give you at least a partial answer, but I'd leave them alone as they're busy writing papers to get funding to make a covid vaccine ;) | 00:40 |
| PlanckWalk | Not just old people | 00:41 |
| PlanckWalk | Probably half the people I've ever met talk that way about all sorts of things | 00:41 |
| LjL | aradesh: tell your dad that. "I know someone who has your answer but in the time he takes to tell you, 100 more people die" | 00:41 |
| aradesh | hehe | 00:41 |
| aradesh | maybe he should be a science fiction writer | 00:41 |
| aradesh | my dad | 00:41 |
| aradesh | instead | 00:41 |
| aradesh | good star trek science | 00:42 |
| aradesh | sounds plausible and clever, but is completely made up | 00:42 |
| pwr22 | <LjL "Your new bot feature makes me an"> Sorry ☹︎ | 00:42 |
| aradesh | pwr22: what does your nick mean by the way? | 00:42 |
| aradesh | power 22? | 00:42 |
| LjL | I believe it's his initials | 00:43 |
| python476 | who here takes vits / zing / mg / silver / graphene supplements ? | 00:43 |
| LjL | Based on the fact I can see his Matrix name :p | 00:43 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 23:39 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia news: NSW confirms 186 new cases as Victoria pushes for stage 3 lockdown – live updates — from r/WorldNews at 23:39: Livethread VIII: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/Ce0GF1 | 00:43 |
| aradesh | ah | 00:43 |
| aradesh | pretty chad initials | 00:43 |
| aradesh | it's like that simpsons episode where homer changes his name to Max Power | 00:43 |
| aradesh | and then he suddenly becomes really successful | 00:44 |
| pwr22 | <LjL "I believe it's his initials"> Yep, it's my initials plus I was the 22nd person with these to go to Bath University, and it's stuck because it's fairly unique 🤦♂️ | 00:44 |
| aradesh | lol! your university email address? | 00:44 |
| LjL | Damn | 00:44 |
| aradesh | do you say barth or baff? | 00:45 |
| LjL | I'm pretty sure I know at least one othet person who chose their nick the exact same way | 00:45 |
| LjL | Except not Bath | 00:45 |
| pwr22 | It was yeah, pwr22@bath.ac.uk | 00:45 |
| pwr22 | Barf | 00:45 |
| aradesh | southerners get out! *shakes fist* | 00:46 |
| LjL | https://framapic.org/JhhQwun3Bgs9/WfGzb6XKq28i | 00:46 |
| pwr22 | I've been told off for not saying barth properly | 00:46 |
| pwr22 | But I don't say bath | 00:46 |
| aradesh | oh | 00:46 |
| aradesh | when you say bath normally you don't say it like that? | 00:46 |
| pwr22 | *baff | 00:46 |
| pwr22 | I'm not posh enough apparently | 00:46 |
| pwr22 | I'm closer to Barth than Baff | 00:46 |
| aradesh | i'm more a baff type | 00:47 |
| aradesh | scone or scone? | 00:47 |
| aradesh | rhyme with gone or cone? | 00:47 |
| pwr22 | <aradesh "and then he suddenly becomes rea"> You just strap yourself in, AND FEEL THE GEES | 00:47 |
| pwr22 | gone | 00:47 |
| aradesh | me too :) | 00:47 |
| aradesh | are you from the midlands? | 00:48 |
| pwr22 | From the South West, not sure why I don't have a wiltshire accent tbh | 00:49 |
| pwr22 | Re: probabilities | 00:49 |
| pwr22 | I Just got told | 00:49 |
| aradesh | ah. i'm from the midlands, so i was just going on the fact that we said scone the same way :P | 00:49 |
| LjL | Too much set theory in there | 00:50 |
| pwr22 | I take that to mean that its P(ICU) as opposed to P(ICU | Hospital) | 00:50 |
| pwr22 | As the comment in the code says "Maths Peter does not understand" | 00:50 |
| LjL | Why do you people even wonder why you do or don't have the accents you ought to have | 00:50 |
| LjL | Can't you have a normal language | 00:50 |
| LjL | With normal words and especially a normal spelling system | 00:51 |
| bin_bash | ... | 00:51 |
| pwr22 | No | 00:51 |
| pwr22 | :D | 00:51 |
| aradesh | anyways night guys | 00:51 |
| bin_bash | You mean like no other language that exists? | 00:51 |
| LjL | Night aradesh | 00:51 |
| LjL | Well sort of | 00:51 |
| AimHere | Pfft. You Italians went and forced your spelling system on us. It's your fault the phonemes don't match! | 00:51 |
| bin_bash | literally every language has retarded things about it, it's inherent to the fluid movement of language | 00:51 |
| pwr22 | Night, I'm off too | 00:51 |
| LjL | AimHere: a decent point | 00:51 |
| LjL | AimHere: but then you used runes. But then ditched them because they were even worse! | 00:51 |
| LjL | You could have tried harder | 00:52 |
| cews | > German hospitals with spare capacity will take in at least 47 coronavirus patients from Italy in a sign of European solidarity, Foreign Minister Heiko Maas said on Thursday. | 01:01 |
| bin_bash | it's about time | 01:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 23:54 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: China closes borders to foreign nationals, as global infections pass 500,000 — from r/WorldNews at 23:54: Livethread VIII: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/JdZU97 | 01:02 |
| LjL | I feel the call of the paracetamol | 01:04 |
| bin_bash | the call lol | 01:04 |
| cews | Feeling better LjL? | 01:05 |
| yuriwho | here's what Fauci had to say on science today especially on vaccines https://youtu.be/4k_wSYBnegY?t=3370 | 01:05 |
| LjL | Not until I've answered the call | 01:05 |
| yuriwho | me too, getting headaches for too much computer time | 01:06 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +279 cases (now 531656), +3 deaths (now 24037) 🔸 US: +306 cases (now 83836), +8 deaths (now 1209) 🔸 Quebec, Canada: +290 cases (now 1632), +2 deaths (now 8) 🔹 Alabama, US: +16 cases (now 517) 🔹 Antigua and Barbuda: +4 cases (now 7) 🔹 Argentina: +1 deaths (now 9) 🔹 Aruba: +9 cases (now 28) 🔹 Australia: +190 cases (now 2996) [... want %more?] | 01:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 00:01 UTC: US now has more coronavirus cases than either China or Italy: Major outbreaks in so-called hot spots such as New York threaten to overwhelm the local hospital systems, which have a limited number of beds, staff and equipment. — from r/WorldNews at 00:01: Livethread VIII: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/nwwHTB | 01:08 |
| IronY | https://twitter.com/nycHealthy/status/1242462479134982145 | 01:11 |
| yuriwho | lol | 01:11 |
| ryouma | "normal words"? | 01:12 |
| LjL | I slept too little yesterday, and felt like crap... Thought I was fine today but then also started to feel like crap. Got muscle aches now apart from ear pain and tinnitus and fatigue so my best friend is gonna be 500mg paracetamol and to hell with making covid worse | 01:13 |
| ryouma | that makes it worse? | 01:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 00:09 UTC: Coronavirus latest: at a glance: A summary of the biggest developments in the global coronavirus outbreak — from r/WorldNews at 00:09: Livethread VIII: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/DqIJtt | 01:14 |
| LjL | Probably doesn't, but you know, the whole nsaid controversy | 01:15 |
| ryouma | i thought it was not an nsaid; at least sentences frequently seem to separate them | 01:15 |
| ecks | paracetamol is not a classical nsaid | 01:16 |
| LjL | yuriwho: sounds like y'all be producing a whooooole lot of vaccine shots most of which will be ditched | 01:16 |
| yuriwho | yep | 01:16 |
| oriba | Now America is Great Again! | 01:16 |
| LjL | I don't know about that, but is there really "mixed evidence for its use to relieve fever in children"? That's what Wikipedia says | 01:17 |
| LjL | But for once I'm going to want to override it with anecdotal evidence | 01:17 |
| LjL | It sure as hell reduces fever! | 01:18 |
| ryouma | is the body mistaken for creating fever? is the virus creating fever? perhaps better to not reduce? | 01:18 |
| LjL | Well that's another matter, I won't claim to know the answer to that | 01:20 |
| LjL | But I'll take some paracetamol and let you know of my temp drops to 34 or somesuch | 01:20 |
| LjL | Phase LjL trial | 01:20 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 00:19 UTC: /u/slakmehl: 4pm update on United States data from the Covid Tracking Project reports the following one day % changes: — from r/WorldNews at 00:19: Livethread VIII: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/X11zA7 | 01:21 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +1737 cases (now 533393), +85 deaths (now 24122), +10 recoveries (now 123390) 🔸 US: +1366 cases (now 85202), +81 deaths (now 1290) 🔸 New York, US: +1239 cases (now 38977), +81 deaths (now 466) 🔸 Australia: +244 cases (now 3050) 🔹 Alabama, US: +16 cases (now 517) 🔹 Antigua and Barbuda: +4 cases (now 7) [... want %more?] | 01:22 |
| LjL | Did Spain really go +10000 today? | 01:26 |
| LjL | Exponential growth is hard for brain to adjust to in time | 01:26 |
| LjL | %cases spain | 01:26 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: In all areas, Spain, there are 57786 cases, 4365 deaths (7.6% of cases), 7015 recoveries as of March 27, 00:19Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Spain for time series data. | 01:26 |
| Raf[m] | %data massachusetts | 01:28 |
| Brainstorm | Raf[m]: In Massachusetts, US, there are 2417 cases, 25 deaths (1.0% of cases), 0 recoveries as of March 27, 00:05Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 01:28 |
| ryouma | what are the proportions of the population for these figures? like, spain, us. | 01:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 00:30 UTC: US now has more coronavirus cases than either China or Italy: Major outbreaks in so-called hot spots such as New York threaten to overwhelm the local hospital systems, which have a limited number of beds, staff and equipment. — from r/WorldNews at 00:30: Livethread VIII: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/nwwHTB | 01:33 |
| Raf[m] | <ryouma "what are the proportions of the "> from an epidemiology perspective, the % is not as interesting as the # of cases | 01:35 |
| Raf[m] | I don't know exactly why but it has something to do with the level of effort/resources | 01:35 |
| ryouma | to do what? | 01:36 |
| ryouma | treat? | 01:36 |
| ryouma | for citizens, it might help get a ballpark figure on probability of getting infected or something | 01:37 |
| LjL | i'd say the % is also interesting | 01:38 |
| LjL | the virus doesn't really know what our political boundaries are | 01:38 |
| LjL | and in Europe they're more or less moot now at least since everyone is locked down | 01:38 |
| LjL | and at the same time, while it may not be easy to transfer patients from Lombardy to Germany, it's also not at all easy to transfer them from Lombardy to $other_italian_region_here | 01:39 |
| LjL | it's interesting to look at what interests you, ultimately | 01:39 |
| LjL | also | 01:40 |
| LjL | i was obviously wrong in thing the EU isn't doing anything about COVID | 01:40 |
| LjL | https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=it&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.punto-informatico.it%2Fcovid-19-operatori-tracciano-movimenti%2F | 01:40 |
| LjL | in thinking * | 01:40 |
| LjL | Spec, ↑ | 01:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health at 00:38 UTC: Clap for Carers: UK in 'emotional' tribute to NHS and care workers: The Royal Family joined people around the UK to salute healthcare workers battling the virus outbreak. — from r/WorldNews at 00:38: Livethread VIII: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/9awZtE | 01:46 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 00:50 UTC: /u/slakmehl: Orleans Parish has highest per-capita coronavirus death rate of American counties -- by far | Coronavirus | nola.com — from r/WorldNews at 00:50: Livethread VIII: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/3StnXU | 01:52 |
| LjL | What percentage of Americans cares about New Orleans? Genuinely wondering, as in, how can it have more dead than NYC and it's the first bit of news I hear about it | 01:55 |
| Raf[m] | %data Louisiana | 01:57 |
| Brainstorm | Raf[m]: In Louisiana, US, there are 2305 cases, 83 deaths (3.6% of cases), 0 recoveries as of March 27, 00:05Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 01:57 |
| balaa[m] | I’m in New Orleans | 01:57 |
| balaa[m] | There are still people at playground | 01:57 |
| IronY | LjL: Just look into Hurricane Katrina | 01:57 |
| IronY | LjL: That will summarize their priorities on New Orleans | 01:57 |
| ryouma | katrina is definitely a grave case to examine | 01:59 |
| Spec | LjL: new orleans is a cultural treasure you see | 02:04 |
| Spec | fried food, gumbo, jambalaya, etc | 02:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 00:53 UTC: Coronavirus live news: US infections outnumber China as global cases pass 500,000: China closes borders; UK records biggest daily rise in deaths; South Africa enters military-patrolled lockdown. Follow the latest updates. — from r/WorldNews at 00:53: Livethread VIII: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/bAyvCD | 02:04 |
| blackntan | i love new orleans | 02:06 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +182 cases (now 533575), +9 deaths (now 24131), +538 recoveries (now 123928) 🔸 China: +55 cases (now 81340), +5 deaths (now 3292), +537 recoveries (now 74588) 🔹 Alabama, US: +16 cases (now 517) 🔹 Antigua and Barbuda: +4 cases (now 7) 🔹 Argentina: +87 cases (now 589), +4 deaths (now 12) 🔹 Aruba: +9 cases (now 28) 🔹 Barbados: +6 cases (now 24) [... want %more?] | 02:07 |
| A2666 | So I just watched TASK Force Briefing and I have to say there was some good scientific information today, it starts at 48min mark. Unfortunately before that I had to go through watching struggling Orange analphabet trying to read names from piece of paper. Then going on with bitching on media and at the end leaving American public with no valuable information whatsoever... So here is link to video already at 48min mark: https://youtu.be/4k_wSYBnegY?t=2905 | 02:13 |
| ryouma | sorry for focusing on the pointless stuff, but "orange analphabet"? | 02:15 |
| A2666 | President | 02:16 |
| ryouma | you taught me a word. thank you. | 02:17 |
| A2666 | You're very welcome. | 02:18 |
| ryouma | %data ny | 02:18 |
| Brainstorm | ryouma: In New York, US, there are 38977 cases, 466 deaths (1.2% of cases), 0 recoveries as of March 27, 00:05Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 02:18 |
| ryouma | %data ct | 02:19 |
| ryouma | rate limited? | 02:19 |
| ubLIX | ryouma: | 02:20 |
| ubLIX | (Country, Infected as %pop, Infected, Deaths as %pop) | 02:20 |
| ubLIX | US 0.026 0.0004 | 02:20 |
| ubLIX | Italy 0.134 0.0136 | 02:20 |
| ubLIX | Spain 0.124 0.0093 | 02:20 |
| ubLIX | Germany 0.053 0.0003 | 02:20 |
| ubLIX | Iran 0.035 0.0027 | 02:20 |
| ubLIX | France 0.044 0.0025 | 02:20 |
| ubLIX | hrm *-Infected | 02:21 |
| spybert | Italy spain, and switzerland hve the biggest percentage of infected | 02:22 |
| LjL | CH did seem a bit high, eyeballed | 02:22 |
| LjL | ryouma, not rate limited but you probably broke it | 02:23 |
| LjL | it breaks easily | 02:23 |
| ryouma | ubLIX: thank you | 02:24 |
| ryouma | iran has a low percent for having been in the news a lot | 02:24 |
| ryouma | italy though looks bad | 02:25 |
| LjL | ryouma, iran also has a low percent for having 7% of its MPs infected | 02:25 |
| ubLIX | CH 0.138 0.0022 | 02:25 |
| LjL | so i would take their numbers with all the salt in the mediterranean | 02:25 |
| LjL | ubLIX, are you getting population data from anywhere specific that i could lazily co-opt into my bot | 02:26 |
| LjL | because i have meant to do that for longer than i should not have done it | 02:26 |
| ubLIX | sry LjL, just wikipedia for now | 02:26 |
| LjL | as in should (not have done it) | 02:26 |
| LjL | or something | 02:26 |
| LjL | ubLIX, well turns out Google are using Wikipedia as their source for COVID data | 02:26 |
| LjL | obviously, like tinwhiskers, they figured out that JHU sucked in comparison | 02:27 |
| LjL | random people editing numbers in are clearly the superior choice | 02:27 |
| ryouma | it would be great if ai could get or scrape numbers. whatever happened to that wolfram thing? | 02:27 |
| LjL | it's still there, i use it, it kinda sucks | 02:28 |
| LjL | %wa what happened to you? | 02:28 |
| ryouma | ch is switzerland or china? | 02:28 |
| yuriwho | this site does scraping for US/Canada data: https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en | 02:28 |
| Brainstorm | LjL, failed to get any hits! | 02:28 |
| yuriwho | the pubpeer comments on this hydroxychloroquine clinical trial publication make it out to be scandalous and the authors are not responding https://pubpeer.com/publications/E09AC9D25125B0AB077971FBA6DD7B | 02:29 |
| LjL | ryouma, switzerland | 02:29 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 01:24 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia news: NSW confirms 186 new cases as Victoria pushes for stage 3 lockdown – live updates — from r/WorldNews at 01:24: Livethread VIII: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/Ce0GF1 | 02:29 |
| ryouma | is stage 3 a global term of art? | 02:30 |
| LjL | yuriwho, good then it's the one italy is counting on | 02:30 |
| LjL | ryouma, i would say so | 02:30 |
| yuriwho | blood transfusions from recovered patients works, they should use that | 02:30 |
| yuriwho | LjL: I feel bad being pessimistic, but the data looks cherry picked to make it look good | 02:35 |
| fructose | https://i.imgur.com/edvLOjI.png | 02:36 |
| LjL | yuriwho, they've said something about "dosing" the right amount of antibodies being hard | 02:37 |
| Spec | fructose: is that real? | 02:37 |
| LjL | random doctors, here, on tv, i mean | 02:37 |
| LjL | well, maybe nonrandom doctors | 02:37 |
| LjL | Spec, it's graphs he makes, i never checked them against reality, but i assumed so :P | 02:37 |
| yuriwho | thats possibly true LjL without accurate serology tests in the hospital labs | 02:38 |
| ubLIX | LjL: can Brainstorm (in pm!) spit out a comma separated list of, say, recorded cases for every country? (and print a corresponding country name scheme) | 02:40 |
| ketas | had to eat something outside the shop as i was starving | 02:41 |
| fructose | Spec: In the sense that it's using Johns Hopkins confirmed cases data | 02:42 |
| LjL | ubLIX, err, maybe i'm misunderstanding but that sounds like the CSV that Brainstorm gets data *from* | 02:42 |
| ubLIX | oh uhm | 02:42 |
| ubLIX | and that's not JHU anymore, is it? | 02:42 |
| LjL | ubLIX, yes and no | 02:43 |
| LjL | it's in transition i believe! | 02:43 |
| ketas | cat got so long | 02:43 |
| DJCrackhead | what happened to the covid chat channel for offtopic conspiracys? | 02:43 |
| LjL | it's still there | 02:43 |
| ketas | i actually thought how worthless and hard is to be "sterile" in in everyday activities | 02:44 |
| DJCrackhead | i don't see it on alis LJL what is it called? | 02:44 |
| LjL | DJCrackhead, ##coronavirus-vox | 02:45 |
| DJCrackhead | just get yourself sterilized ketas | 02:45 |
| DJCrackhead | ty ljl | 02:46 |
| LjL | that would kill him, not a good idea | 02:46 |
| DJCrackhead | i mean snip his or her sexual orginz | 02:46 |
| ketas | hah | 02:46 |
| ubLIX | rumours covid-19 is doing that for us already | 02:47 |
| DJCrackhead | pffft scsi helicopter | 02:47 |
| ubLIX | well, they're looking into it | 02:47 |
| ketas | no vasectomy for me | 02:47 |
| DJCrackhead | i heard rumors of aids spliced into covid where did you hear about sterility ubLIX? gimme the 411 on the dope splicing theories yo | 02:47 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 01:43 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: China's Xi calls for global policy coordination, Italy death toll tops 8,000 — from r/WorldNews at 01:43: Livethread VIII: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/NwNiBJ | 02:48 |
| ubLIX | best move to ##coronavirus-vox, DJCrackhead | 02:48 |
| LjL | ↑ | 02:48 |
| LjL | but also, there is a paper on that | 02:48 |
| DJCrackhead | I thought china had already solved the corona problem there whats the truth about that | 02:48 |
| LjL | so you can talk about that | 02:48 |
| LjL | except infertility was like one mentioned possibility | 02:48 |
| ketas | btw, why is copper or copper plating not used more often in public places? :) | 02:49 |
| LjL | other perhaps more worrisome things being kidney and liver involvement | 02:49 |
| ketas | too many thiefs? | 02:49 |
| DJCrackhead | what is the name or link to the paper ljl? why dont u start a convo on it there...i dont even know anything aobut the paper | 02:49 |
| DJCrackhead | also what are good corona conspiracy chans on other networks like rizon etc that aren't as slanted as heavily libruhl as freenode is | 02:49 |
| LjL | i have absolutely no intention of starting a conversation there :P | 02:49 |
| ryouma | there was a recent paper saying copper is good that was reported to be surprising. so proabloy not enough time. | 02:49 |
| ketas | or maybe it was thieves | 02:49 |
| DJCrackhead | why not ljl? and at least link me to the paper you are talking about ljl so i can read it | 02:50 |
| LjL | highlight me more so i take longer to grep my logs for the paper | 02:50 |
| ryouma | the paper was probably pre-pandemic. it was for microbes in general. or bacteria. not sure which. idk about sars2. | 02:50 |
| LjL | DJCrackhead, https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.12.20022418v1 | 02:50 |
| DJCrackhead | still using the win 3.1 ding.wav eh | 02:50 |
| ketas | ryouma: it has long been said that copper handle is perfect for public toilets | 02:51 |
| ketas | but it gets stolen likely | 02:51 |
| ketas | and plating wears down? | 02:51 |
| LjL | ketas, even better is heating it up to 60°C | 02:51 |
| LjL | minimizes exposure times | 02:51 |
| ketas | hah | 02:51 |
| ketas | :) | 02:51 |
| ketas | i have some copper doorhandles in my home | 02:52 |
| ubLIX | DJCrackhead: also, https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.21.20037267v1 | 02:53 |
| LjL | ubLIX, some pretty nutty theories tbh | 02:53 |
| ubLIX | (nut)ty? | 02:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health at 01:48 UTC: Clap for Carers: UK in 'emotional' tribute to NHS and care workers: The Royal Family joined people around the UK to salute healthcare workers battling the virus outbreak. — from r/WorldNews at 01:48: Livethread VIII: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/9awZtE | 02:54 |
| DJCrackhead | testis hrrm | 02:55 |
| DJCrackhead | ty ljl | 02:55 |
| LjL | ubLIX, that was the joke yes | 02:55 |
| LjL | now you ruined it | 02:55 |
| LjL | it wasn't a great joke | 02:55 |
| DJCrackhead | sorry about highlighting you so much before ljl | 02:55 |
| LjL | sokay | 02:56 |
| DJCrackhead | i promise not to do it anymore ljl | 02:56 |
| LjL | thanks | 02:56 |
| DJCrackhead | kk | 02:56 |
| DJCrackhead | kek | 02:56 |
| DJCrackhead | i'm kinda liking this new nick | 02:56 |
| DJCrackhead | it's somehow irreverent and elite all the same time | 02:56 |
| ryouma | reminds me of "the good place" | 02:56 |
| DJCrackhead | whats that ryouma? | 02:56 |
| ryouma | tv show that has a dj | 02:57 |
| ubLIX | what was your previous nick, DJCrackhead? | 02:57 |
| DJCrackhead | well, i thought of it cuz i bought a midi keyboard and i googled it and then there's all these reviews from wiggers trying to be black and dj with tats with no brains and 10000 youtube channels like that and i'm an actual musician not some wigger with insecurity about myself | 02:58 |
| IronY | LjL I have a solution for that | 02:58 |
| IronY | sec | 02:58 |
| IronY | the bot spam thing | 02:58 |
| LjL | that's probably not a very great word to use | 02:58 |
| DJCrackhead | i've had thousands of nicks ubLIX -- -I'm Mojo-Rizon/WorldWideWeebs on Rizon | 02:58 |
| ubLIX | would you pick something else for this channel or stick to -vox? | 03:00 |
| DJCrackhead | I like to use new nicks every few days just because I am creative and so I like to spice it up or whatever, be contemporaneous | 03:01 |
| ryouma | i presume youa re not talking about his nick | 03:01 |
| DJCrackhead | like my MarshallLaw nicks that noone believed that there was an actual war on men to kill them | 03:01 |
| ryouma | just for clarity | 03:01 |
| DJCrackhead | I knew there would be no election in 2020 as early as 2017 | 03:01 |
| DJCrackhead | the simple version is, now they have the biotech and the bots, they don't eed the population, the rich can live for 200+ years and no longer need the population and want to get rid of it | 03:01 |
| DJCrackhead | I can't have nicks per channel and I'm on here mostly to use #edmproduction, so no, not at this time | 03:01 |
| DJCrackhead | the virus is completely related to the war on men | 03:01 |
| DJCrackhead | it's the opening salvo | 03:01 |
| ubLIX | uhm. stick to -vox | 03:01 |
| ubLIX | peace be with you, sir | 03:02 |
| yuriwho | Bill Gates hour long TED talk on COVID yesterday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe8fIjxicoo | 03:03 |
| IronY | LjL: http://ircu.sourceforge.net/release.2.10.02-cprivmsg.html | 03:04 |
| IronY | Applies to people who are in a channel the bot is oped in, supported by freenodes ircd | 03:04 |
| LjL | IronY, wait... what bot spam thing is this a solution to? | 03:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 01:51 UTC: Coronavirus live news: US infections outnumber China as global cases pass 500,000: China closes borders; UK records biggest daily rise in deaths; South Africa enters military-patrolled lockdown. Follow the latest updates. — from r/WorldNews at 01:51: Livethread VIII: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/bAyvCD | 03:06 |
| oriba | Bill Gates: the one who stopped innovation by providing crap software and also hindered free software and therefore science's advance. | 03:07 |
| LjL | and also made BASIC for pretty much all the home computers that my generation learned computing on | 03:08 |
| LjL | (ruining our ability to program in real languages in the process) | 03:09 |
| LjL | %cases world | 03:10 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: In all areas, World, there are 533684 cases, 24135 deaths (4.5% of cases), 123942 recoveries as of March 27, 02:02Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=World for time series data. | 03:10 |
| Xip | HAHAHAHAHAHAA | 03:11 |
| Xip | Bill Gates made BASIC? | 03:12 |
| LjL | not really, but he made the most commercially successful BASIC interpreters | 03:12 |
| LjL | well, his company anyway, although initially, he personally too | 03:12 |
| LjL | The first microcomputer version of BASIC was co-written by Gates, Allen, and Monte Davidoff for their newly-formed company, Micro-Soft. This was released by MITS in punch tape format for the Altair 8800 shortly after the machine itself,[12] immediately cementing BASIC as the primary language of early microcomputers. | 03:13 |
| Xip | Is this real life... This is Freenode right? | 03:13 |
| LjL | get off the drugs again | 03:13 |
| oriba | "The original version was designed by John G. Kemeny and Thomas E. Kurtz and released at Dartmouth College in 1964." | 03:15 |
| LjL | oriba, that explains the "not really" part of my statement | 03:15 |
| Raf[m] | if Stallman wasn't a free software nut he would have been as rich as Bill Gates, can't blame Bill Gates for what he did | 03:16 |
| oriba | LjL: and yours does not explain my statement. | 03:16 |
| LjL | oriba, elaborate? | 03:17 |
| oriba | Just ONE example of a long history of blocking innovation and free software: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_documents | 03:17 |
| ryouma | this is freenode. we know about that stuff. :) | 03:18 |
| ryouma | but maybe the video is good, dunno | 03:18 |
| oriba | should know... ;-) | 03:18 |
| oriba | someone invetns something, B.G. picks it up, copies it, uses aggressive methods to kick out the others, earns billions | 03:19 |
| oriba | other people talk about the next pandemy, will be ignored, B.G. picks it up later, and gets the applause | 03:19 |
| oriba | The doctor who helped defeat smallpox explains what’s coming: https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/03/the-doctor-who-helped-defeat-smallpox-explains-whats-coming/ | 03:20 |
| oriba | https://www.ted.com/talks/larry_brilliant_my_wish_help_me_stop_pandemics?language=en | 03:20 |
| sneep | Xip: You didn't know Microsoft made BASIC interpreters [4~for early home computers? | 03:21 |
| oriba | 2006 | 03:21 |
| oriba | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish | 03:25 |
| LjL | yes it's linked from the other article you linked | 03:26 |
| oriba | "With the release of Windows 8 in October 2012, Microsoft's certification requirements now require that computers include firmware that implements the UEFI specification." (UEFI; Wikipedia) | 03:31 |
| oriba | "Non-free software (e.g. Windows, MacOS or proprietary BIOS/UEFI) is under the exclusive control of its owners, not users!" -> https://libreboot.org/ | 03:31 |
| A2666 | oriba I am with you, BG is a total ass hat. Besides he did not write anything as far as software. It was always sourced from elsewhere. | 03:35 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 02:30 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: China's Xi calls for global policy coordination, South Korea reports 91 new cases — from r/WorldNews at 02:30: Livethread VIII: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/NwNiBJ | 03:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 02:45 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia news: NSW confirms 186 new cases as Victoria pushes for stage 3 lockdown – live updates — from r/WorldNews at 02:45: Livethread VIII: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/Ce0GF1 | 03:50 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +258 cases (now 533833), +12 deaths (now 24143), +398 recoveries (now 124326) 🔸 Korea, South: +91 cases (now 9332), +8 deaths (now 139), +384 recoveries (now 4528) 🔹 Alabama, US: +30 cases (now 531) 🔹 Antigua and Barbuda: +4 cases (now 7) 🔹 Argentina: +87 cases (now 589), +4 deaths (now 12), +9 recoveries (now 72) 🔹 Aruba: +9 cases (now 28) [... want %more?] | 03:53 |
| LjL | time to waste a ton of isopropyl alcohol to clean my walkman's head | 03:54 |
| LjL | just to spite those of you who can't buy any | 03:54 |
| ryouma | (duly spited. where the !@#$ can we get this stuff, which is almost the only disinfectant that i can chemically tolerate? i cannot tolerate lysol etc. and i want hand sanitizer or that and aloe.) | 03:56 |
| ryouma | i mean, alcohol is probalby not rocket science to produce | 03:56 |
| ryouma | don't! | 03:58 |
| LjL | i got it from amazon when we were still pretty early into the outbreak | 03:58 |
| LjL | absolutely unfindable now | 03:59 |
| LjL | same with denaturated | 03:59 |
| ryouma | denatured is bad for making hand sanitizer right? | 04:00 |
| LjL | it's okay according to the WHO | 04:00 |
| ryouma | and everclear has benzene or something bad in it right? | 04:00 |
| LjL | but then the WHO spouted out a fair amount of other crap | 04:00 |
| LjL | no idea about that, american thing | 04:00 |
| LjL | ryouma, denaturated is toxic (on purpose), but isopropyl is also toxic *to drink*, which is what denaturated is made toxic for | 04:01 |
| ryouma | and vodka is too weak | 04:01 |
| LjL | so whether one or the other will be worse for you is up to your individual sensitivities | 04:01 |
| ryouma | hmm | 04:01 |
| LjL | well there is some very strong vodka but probably not too easy to source | 04:01 |
| ryouma | didn't know isopropyl was toxic (i'm gonna just think it's possibly toxic on skin also) | 04:01 |
| ryouma | i thought isopropyl was /also/ denatured for rubbing alcohol though | 04:02 |
| LjL | well if it weren't toxic on its own they'd just denaturate that too | 04:02 |
| LjL | not here | 04:02 |
| LjL | wouldn't make much sense | 04:02 |
| LjL | i read what you call rubbing alcohol can be *either* isopropyl, or denaturated ethanol | 04:02 |
| LjL | but rubbing alcohol not a term here so really i dunno | 04:03 |
| ryouma | i wonder where sources of these things will first show up once production gets stabilized | 04:04 |
| IronY | our local distilleries are already producing it | 04:07 |
| IronY | 70% ethanol as per recommendation I believe | 04:07 |
| IronY | (Canada) | 04:07 |
| LjL | ryouma, our pharmacy makes hand sanitizer, they were out of it for a while because they had no alcohol either, but they managed to grab some | 04:07 |
| LjL | so i'd assume that's where it'd first show up | 04:07 |
| LjL | they have the most interest in getting it and making expensive hand sanitizer out of it | 04:08 |
| IronY | LjL: Price gouging just offficialy made illegal in Ontario | 04:08 |
| IronY | A boutique grocery store was selling single cans of lyson wipes for 29.99 retail | 04:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 03:00 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Xi calls for global coordination, China suspends entry for most foreigners — from r/WorldNews at 03:00: Livethread VIII: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/NwNiBJ | 04:08 |
| IronY | went viral | 04:08 |
| IronY | immediate law passing lol | 04:09 |
| LjL | €6 for each small jar of sanitizer by our pharmacy would probably not be considered price gouging | 04:09 |
| IronY | No that sounds about right | 04:09 |
| LjL | some pharmacies were giving some out free to their registered customers too | 04:09 |
| IronY | I know the states also has distill`s retooling for hand sanitizer | 04:10 |
| LjL | but they did sell fpp2 masks for extortionate price (for a short while, then they couldn't get any more) | 04:10 |
| LjL | €13.50 each, €130 a pack of 10 | 04:10 |
| LjL | but really i suspect they were also buying them for extortionate prices | 04:10 |
| LjL | i mean i'm sure they made a gain, but still, masks are nowhere to be found | 04:10 |
| IronY | So, I am going to quote a pharmacist | 04:11 |
| IronY | Please do not mistake these as my words | 04:11 |
| LjL | okay | 04:11 |
| IronY | I went to a local pharma (chemist un uk) on Jan 27 | 04:11 |
| IronY | searching for masks | 04:11 |
| IronY | I was told our asian community purchased them to send them home | 04:11 |
| LjL | yeah, same here | 04:11 |
| IronY | I am not saying I would not have done the same, thinking it was not going to leave china | 04:11 |
| IronY | I get it | 04:11 |
| IronY | but fuck | 04:11 |
| LjL | i live closeish to Milan's chinatown | 04:11 |
| LjL | our pharmacies were out of masks... in december | 04:12 |
| IronY | ^ | 04:12 |
| IronY | Cannot mail Alcohol thankfully | 04:12 |
| IronY | here anyway | 04:12 |
| LjL | not across borders anyway | 04:12 |
| ketas | i only have one can of pure ipa | 04:13 |
| IronY | I got two bottles of 99% Isoprop | 04:13 |
| IronY | they were for electronics | 04:13 |
| ketas | it's in sealed can so indeed it's pure | 04:13 |
| IronY | Now I regret being so cavalier with the aerosol bottole i had | 04:14 |
| IronY | hell I have not checked to see if those have been run on hobbie stores | 04:14 |
| IronY | new mission | 04:14 |
| ketas | hah | 04:14 |
| LjL | i'm sure most of us here have a few (not) purchasing regrets and similar | 04:14 |
| ketas | i once had idea to get 5l bottle | 04:14 |
| xionbox[m] | Quick question: is one contagious throughout the incubation period? | 04:15 |
| ketas | since it's just nice thing | 04:15 |
| LjL | letting items run out of stock on amazon is a lot more annoying when it could kill you than not | 04:15 |
| LjL | somehow | 04:15 |
| xionbox[m] | Or only after some time when the virus has started to reproduce ? | 04:15 |
| LjL | xionbox[m], technically, it's going to definitely going to be "after some time" | 04:15 |
| LjL | how much time, i've no idea | 04:15 |
| LjL | but indeed the virus must start reproducing at least | 04:15 |
| xionbox[m] | Makes sense | 04:15 |
| ketas | wasn't it spready since start | 04:16 |
| LjL | it's not even fully ascertained if people are significantly contagious when asymptomatic | 04:16 |
| ketas | and you couldn't feel it | 04:16 |
| LjL | ketas, "start" of symptoms | 04:16 |
| LjL | but he's talking about start of incubation | 04:16 |
| LjL | i.e. the moment you get infected | 04:16 |
| ketas | i meant start of infection | 04:17 |
| LjL | i don't think any such claim has been made | 04:17 |
| ketas | and surfaces? | 04:18 |
| LjL | what about them? | 04:18 |
| LjL | surfaces have been shown to harbor viable virus for a while | 04:19 |
| LjL | how long of "a while", depends on the surface | 04:19 |
| LjL | also, how likely it is to get infected from surfaces is unclear | 04:19 |
| LjL | but i don't see why it would be very unlikely as some claim | 04:19 |
| tinwhiskers | at the point you've just become infected you are not shedding any viruses. How soon after that you do start shedding will vary by person and isn't really known. | 04:19 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, yeah but that said, i don't think viruses are magical and can accelerate time within your cells | 04:20 |
| tinwhiskers | o.O | 04:20 |
| LjL | so i'm pretty sure it's going to be... at least 10 minutes? :P | 04:20 |
| tinwhiskers | erm. agreed :-) | 04:20 |
| tinwhiskers | it likely days | 04:20 |
| tinwhiskers | it's | 04:20 |
| LjL | well, influenza can be contagious within 24h or so | 04:21 |
| ketas | we need time travel viruses | 04:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 03:15 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia news: NSW confirms 186 new cases as Victoria pushes for stage 3 lockdown – live updates — from r/WorldNews at 03:15: Livethread VIII: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/Ce0GF1 | 04:21 |
| LjL | so not necessarily multiple days at least | 04:21 |
| tinwhiskers | ok | 04:21 |
| ketas | bttf-99 | 04:21 |
| ketas | :) | 04:21 |
| LjL | we don't need much time travel | 04:22 |
| LjL | we only need to go a few weeks back | 04:22 |
| LjL | just so we can tell our governments that they should prepare in time | 04:22 |
| LjL | because they didn't have warning signs in advance | 04:22 |
| tinwhiskers | yes, and try to convince Trump that it's a problem | 04:22 |
| LjL | oh wait | 04:22 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +269 cases (now 534102), +6 deaths (now 24149) 🔹 Alabama, US: +30 cases (now 531) 🔹 Antigua and Barbuda: +4 cases (now 7) 🔹 Argentina: +87 cases (now 589), +4 deaths (now 12), +9 recoveries (now 72) 🔹 Aruba: +9 cases (now 28) 🔹 Barbados: +6 cases (now 24) 🔹 Bolivia: +11 cases (now 61) 🔹 Cabo Verde: +1 cases (now 5) [... want %more?] | 04:23 |
| ketas | well prepanic doesn't really help too | 04:23 |
| LjL | building more ICU beds isn't prepanic | 04:23 |
| tinwhiskers | did someone say we should panic? | 04:23 |
| tinwhiskers | prepare != panic | 04:24 |
| ketas | there's one thing someone said, many doctors are old themselves | 04:24 |
| LjL | which is partly why we are waiving all the usual exams and letting doctors fresh out of medical university work in hospitals | 04:25 |
| xionbox[m] | I was reading a few days ago that there "seems" to be two strains (which might be the same one just reacting differently in different people). One where it's a really bad flu with shortness of breath etc, and another where it's just "a bad flu." In the former case, a decent percentage of people seem to require hospitalization, and those are the people who face a very high risk | 04:25 |
| LjL | xionbox[m], that seems quite debunked | 04:25 |
| xionbox[m] | But I don't recall exactly where I read that... Has anyone heard of this more recently ? | 04:25 |
| tinwhiskers | LjL++ | 04:25 |
| LjL | there was a paper on that, it's... not really been found true | 04:25 |
| xionbox[m] | Oh ok, that's correct to know LjL | 04:25 |
| xionbox[m] | *good to know | 04:25 |
| LjL | xionbox[m], i think the resources in the topic have both the paper and some of the debunking | 04:26 |
| xionbox[m] | Okay will check | 04:26 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 03:23 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Xi calls for global coordination, China suspends entry for most foreigners — from r/WorldNews at 03:23: Livethread VIII: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/NwNiBJ | 04:27 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 03:27 UTC: (news): Use of surveillance to fight coronavirus raises concerns about government power after pandemic ends — from r/WorldNews at 03:27: Livethread VIII: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/KvpvNo | 04:33 |
| ketas | friend added corona to stats with labels that loosely translates into stuffy nose, in grave, got lucky :P | 04:34 |
| ketas | err to his bot | 04:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 03:30 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia news: NSW confirms 186 new cases as Victoria pushes for stage 3 lockdown – live updates — from r/WorldNews at 03:30: Livethread VIII: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/Ce0GF1 | 04:39 |
| Jigsy | Wow. | 04:40 |
| Jigsy | The U.S. now has more cases than China. | 04:40 |
| d3c0d3d | And its infection curve continues to rise and with no intention of stopping | 04:42 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 03:40 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Xi calls for global coordination, China suspends entry for most foreigners — from r/WorldNews at 03:40: Livethread VIII: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/NwNiBJ | 04:46 |
| ketas | hmm, it somehow feels good to be antisocial atheist | 04:49 |
| ketas | especially if i look others | 04:49 |
| IronY | lol that last headline from Brainstorm | 04:51 |
| IronY | we have now reversed | 04:51 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 03:44 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia news: all arrivals to be quarantined for 14 days, Scott Morrison announces – live updates — from r/WorldNews at 03:44: Livethread VIII: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/Ce0GF1 | 04:52 |
| ketas | a sports good store had marketing accident here... they announced huge discount in e as well as irl stores, shops were filled to the brim, in shame they decided to close all their stores across country | 04:53 |
| ketas | article if you wish: https://news.err.ee/1069424/sportland-closes-stores-early-after-wednesday-sale-faux-pas-draws-crowds | 04:58 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 03:54 UTC: /u/slakmehl: New York (US), Madrid and Catalonia (Spain) are currently on track to surpass Lombardy (Italy) as the worst affected subnational region in the coming week. — from r/WorldNews at 03:54: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/HTnRrK | 04:58 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 04:00 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia news: all arrivals to be quarantined for 14 days, Scott Morrison announces – live updates — from r/WorldNews at 04:00: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/Ce0GF1 | 05:04 |
| berndj | is it strictly necessary to test *individuals*? if one is bottlenecked on test throughput, wouldn't one get a lot of public health bang for the buck by slopping samples from entire households (or even whole neighbourhoods!) together and PCR testing them as a whole to know whether (and how much) people - but not who specifically - are infected? | 05:04 |
| lf94 | yes | 05:14 |
| lf94 | yes that sounds like a good idea | 05:15 |
| lf94 | :) | 05:15 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 04:14 UTC: Coronavirus live news: US infections outnumber China as global cases pass 500,000: China closes borders; UK records biggest daily rise in deaths; South Africa enters military-patrolled lockdown. Follow the latest updates. — from r/WorldNews at 04:14: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/bAyvCD | 05:23 |
| xionbox[m] | Is shortness of breath the standard for covid, or is it only for the most advanced forms? | 05:24 |
| xionbox[m] | I'm trying to determine a posteriori how likely it is that my mother had covid 10 weeks ago | 05:25 |
| xionbox[m] | https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/symptoms.html | 05:26 |
| xionbox[m] | US CDC says it's one of the three symptoms | 05:26 |
| ketas | so, entire world now follows rules which i've followed for my entire life... | 05:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 04:27 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia news: all arrivals to be quarantined for 14 days, Scott Morrison announces – live updates — from r/WorldNews at 04:27: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/Ce0GF1 | 05:41 |
| ryouma | xionbox[m]: there are various online wizards, including one by one of the major agencies. they ask quesstions and then tell you what to do. | 05:44 |
| ryouma | idk about bayesian networks here, which is sort of what you need i guess | 05:44 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 05:01 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Xi calls for global coordination, China suspends entry for most foreigners — from r/WorldNews at 05:01: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/NwNiBJ | 06:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 05:07 UTC: /u/slakmehl: Yuan Yang su Twitter: "China's plummeting coronavirus case count looks v promising. But local medics tell us the numbers are too rosy: “the [authorities] are using all their means to control the new case count,” & the detected symptomatic cases are “the tip of the iceberg” - @ft https://t.co/T4Auq4UYrv" → https://is.gd/5UwJuE | 06:12 |
| ryouma | they cannot just lie? they have to manipulate? | 06:14 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 05:13 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia news: all arrivals to be quarantined for 14 days, Scott Morrison announces – live updates — from r/WorldNews at 05:13: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/Ce0GF1 | 06:24 |
| yuriwho | check out this tracker from singapore: https://www.againstcovid19.com/singapore/ | 06:28 |
| yuriwho | awesome data hub | 06:28 |
| IronY | yuriwho: u on a vpn? | 06:28 |
| yuriwho | no | 06:28 |
| IronY | I am getting a 'This is not launched in your country' error | 06:29 |
| yuriwho | irc cloud | 06:29 |
| yuriwho | perhaps it gets around global blockers, I'll upload a screenshot | 06:29 |
| IronY | https://www.againstcovid19.com/singapore/dashboard | 06:29 |
| IronY | there u go | 06:29 |
| yuriwho | same page | 06:29 |
| IronY | ur link circles back to the main page | 06:30 |
| yuriwho | dunno why | 06:30 |
| sneep | Anyone else got dry hands from washing them too often? And I went through an entire tube of hand cream since ~March 1 | 06:30 |
| yuriwho | use aloe gel | 06:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 05:27 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Xi calls for global coordination, China suspends entry for most foreigners — from r/WorldNews at 05:27: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/NwNiBJ | 06:31 |
| IronY | the thing about not leaving ur house | 06:31 |
| IronY | is u do not need to wash ur hands every 3 seconds | 06:31 |
| ketas | you don't need that out either | 06:32 |
| ketas | since you always violate "sterile" rules anyway | 06:33 |
| IronY | I mean, I wash my hands the second after receiving outside parcels | 06:33 |
| IronY | and disinfecting them | 06:33 |
| ketas | but parcels themshelves? | 06:34 |
| ketas | :/ | 06:34 |
| IronY | I mean disinfecting the parcels | 06:34 |
| IronY | shuck the outer packaging where possible | 06:34 |
| IronY | soap and water the rest | 06:34 |
| IronY | followed by lysol wipes | 06:34 |
| IronY | apples taste a bit like dish soap right now, but it'll do | 06:34 |
| xionbox[m] | The national forest on the west of colorado has closed down | 06:36 |
| xionbox[m] | Lol | 06:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 05:30 UTC: Singapore will jail and fine people who do not keep a 1-meter physical distance in public: Singapore announced stiff fines and jail on Thursday night for people who do not observe social distancing measures put in place to contain the coronavirus outbreak. — from r/WorldNews at 05:30: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/jFnONq | 06:37 |
| xionbox[m] | No one will care. It's totally outrageous in my eyes that they would try to prevent hiking when it's one of the main reasons why people move to Colorado in the first place, and hikes just are not crowded! So many hikes in Colorado that you're often hundreds of meters away from the closest group | 06:37 |
| xionbox[m] | Infuriates me | 06:38 |
| IronY | xionbox[m]: we closed our provincial parks, there the same size as yours, I have seen the photos, thats not how post people work | 06:38 |
| IronY | its not the hikers that are ruining it | 06:38 |
| xionbox[m] | The response must be rational and coordinated, especially if we're going to stay in confinement for a year (as people in the US Air Force were telling me yesterday) | 06:38 |
| IronY | it is the 3000 people in the parking lots | 06:38 |
| ryouma | 1 meter seems to close | 06:38 |
| ryouma | o | 06:38 |
| ketas | yes i prefer 50m | 06:39 |
| xionbox[m] | IronY: if the problem is the parking lot, prevent people from parking on every spot, and only leave every other spot open like they do with the Xs on the ground in grocery stores | 06:39 |
| sneep | xionbox[m]: I'm guessing that individual hikers who don't mingle with other hikers and don't fall down cliffs aren't the problem | 06:39 |
| IronY | xionbox[m]: you seem to overestimate the general population | 06:39 |
| ketas | single and will not mingle | 06:40 |
| IronY | xionbox[m]: we already told them if they leave the house their grandparents are probably dead | 06:40 |
| IronY | asking them to park correctly seems a leap | 06:40 |
| xionbox[m] | Can't we place heavy boulders on every other spot? | 06:40 |
| xionbox[m] | Lots of rocks in Colorado | 06:40 |
| sneep | Feel free to suggest it to the guys in charge | 06:41 |
| xionbox[m] | They won't care at all | 06:41 |
| xionbox[m] | I tried to explain to my building manager that instead of closing the gym that only 20 of the 500+ residents use, they should instead have a rotating admittance where each resident gets 30 minutes a few times a week, and people who have been in contact with potential carrier must notify management and be banned from the gym until they full recover or prove that they were tested negatively | 06:42 |
| IronY | lol | 06:42 |
| xionbox[m] | Which is a very small scale version of the system they have in Singapore | 06:42 |
| IronY | Not sure ur getting how that works | 06:42 |
| ketas | we used that in 1991 when red army is suspected to interfere with newly redeclared independence of estonia | 06:43 |
| ketas | big rocks :P | 06:43 |
| sneep | People get in contact with carriers all the time without noticing | 06:43 |
| xionbox[m] | sneep: I understand that | 06:44 |
| sneep | Anyway, complicated policies don't work very well in general | 06:46 |
| xionbox[m] | I don't know, I'm just very concerned that I can't live a life at all if I'm locked in and disallowed from going outside or staying healthy. I'm an athlete, I need my endorphins. The oldest person I hang out with is 29, and they're in isolation too, not seeing anyone. Being selfish, but hey, I very likely won't be transmitting it to anyone. The kind of tracking they use in ROK and Singapore is what we need, not some | 06:47 |
| xionbox[m] | totally irrational methods were we lock people inside. Protect those who are often in contact with others (medical personnel and cashiers), disallow vulnerable people from going outside, but if a 20 or 30-odd years old healthy individual wants to stay isolated from anyone older and just wants to breathe fresh air every now and then, let them be | 06:47 |
| IronY | people need their chemo therapy | 06:47 |
| IronY | u do not need ur endorphins | 06:47 |
| xionbox[m] | Again, as I was told yesterday by folks in the military, we're in this shit for a year. People will go insane if everything is banned | 06:48 |
| IronY | prepare for people to go insane | 06:48 |
| xionbox[m] | IronY: and those people absolutely need their medical treatment for sure. | 06:48 |
| sneep | Accounting probably wanted me to submit a coule things weeks ago and I'm only getting to it now. I'm sure there's an important reason they want their stuff immediately, but see, humans are bad at following policies | 06:48 |
| sneep | Humans are good at adjusting, I don't think people going insane will be a big problem | 06:50 |
| ubLIX | xionbox[m]: if you were told that you could save 2 million lives just by you personally spending a year in jail, would you say no? | 06:51 |
| xionbox[m] | ubLIX: Of course I wouldn't say no. But a single person won't cause that many infections, let alone that many deaths | 06:52 |
| xionbox[m] | Look at patient 31 who infected like two thousand people? | 06:52 |
| IronY | ^ this is why they closed ur parks | 06:52 |
| sneep | Well, chances are it all came from a single person | 06:52 |
| sneep | Or maybe multiple people handled the same bat/pangolin/whathaveyou | 06:53 |
| ketas | the idea is not to ban people from walking alone | 06:53 |
| xionbox[m] | Each person must be responsible for the few people they are in contact with. Select like 3 people that you are OK seeing for the next 6 months, no more. Don't see anyone else, and those people cannot be considered vulnerable | 06:53 |
| IronY | lol | 06:54 |
| xionbox[m] | ketas: but that's effectively what they are doing | 06:54 |
| ketas | xionbox[m]: really? | 06:54 |
| ubLIX | xionbox[m]: but if everyone aged under 70 just carried on as normal, the isolation of those over 70 would certainly fail, and millions would die, including countless thousands your own age | 06:54 |
| ketas | where and why | 06:54 |
| IronY | ketas: there blocking public parks, there free to walk alone at places people wont make hot spots | 06:54 |
| yuriwho | some people are fine alone (me), others really need human contact | 06:54 |
| IronY | yuriwho: yeah, 25% of my day now is making sure my common law gf does not crack | 06:55 |
| IronY | thats my biggest concern | 06:55 |
| ketas | yuriwho is so secluded | 06:55 |
| xionbox[m] | ketas: by closing down the national forests and all hiking trails, that's exactly what they are doing. Again, the problem is the parking lot, but they're taking a sledgehammer to hang up a painting | 06:55 |
| ketas | yuriwho: do you also feel happy outside now? | 06:55 |
| sneep | I don't think the problem is just the parking lot | 06:55 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 05:53 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: China suspends entry for most foreigners, Singapore will jail people who don't observe distancing — from r/WorldNews at 05:53: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/NwNiBJ | 06:55 |
| IronY | xionbox[m]: your getting the most important part | 06:55 |
| IronY | they did not START with banning it | 06:56 |
| IronY | they asked politely | 06:56 |
| IronY | no one listened | 06:56 |
| ketas | good that there are actual forests here | 06:56 |
| IronY | no one to blame but yourself | 06:56 |
| yuriwho | I do, I went to see if the skunks or racoons had nested in an outbuilding today | 06:56 |
| IronY | (not you, yourself, the royal yourself) | 06:56 |
| ketas | not parks | 06:56 |
| sneep | If somebody needs to get rescued they could infect the rescue personell, or the rescue personell is busy with other things anyway | 06:56 |
| sneep | personnel* | 06:56 |
| xionbox[m] | ubLIX: I'm not advocating for people to carry out life as normal. I'm advocating for people to select a very small group of folks that they will see. Enforce the social distancing. Close down all non-essential shops | 06:56 |
| yuriwho | also raked some leaves that were trapped on the ground by early snow last season. We just melted out | 06:57 |
| IronY | backyards almost there | 06:57 |
| xionbox[m] | sneep: infection of medical personnel is a whole other problem. A good friend works in health care, and their biggest problem at the moment is handling protection of the staff. They can't, they don't have eough equipment | 06:57 |
| ketas | enforce autism-friendly lifestyle, i love it, i was just out earlier, i can even walk outside at rush hour now | 06:58 |
| ubLIX | xionbox[m]: here in the UK you're not allowed gatherings of more than 2 people; or to exercise outdoors other than alone, unless you're all members of the same household; sounds like you want to live with a handful of fellow athletes. | 06:58 |
| ketas | less than 10 people out | 06:59 |
| sneep | xionbox[m]: I don't think the "select three people [who live somewhere else] to stay in contact with" policy will work. Everybody would be connected somehow | 06:59 |
| ketas | ubLIX: is group training a thing? | 06:59 |
| xionbox[m] | IronY: I hear you, and I agree that people could have been more responsible. I suspect that the Parks&Rec service just saw the number of cars in the lot and got spooked. In fact, they should be looking at the proximity of people. If cars A and B are parked near each other, it does not necessarily imply that the people in both cars were in close proximity. One could have arrived earlier than the other, and more likely | 07:00 |
| xionbox[m] | than not (from my experience on hikes), these people never even crossed paths | 07:00 |
| xionbox[m] | sneep: Couldn't it be enforced with an app similar to ROK, Singapore or HK? | 07:01 |
| IronY | xionbox[m]: you will have a riot post mandated tracking | 07:01 |
| IronY | then these problems will seem small | 07:01 |
| ubLIX | ketas: well last i checked, in the UK, you can go out for exercise once per day; you can take a walk with someone ONLY if they live with you (eg family). stretching this to half a dozen athletes would be.. a bit of a stretch. you'd expect to get pulled by every cop that saw you | 07:01 |
| xionbox[m] | Telecom antennas track phones all the time. Couldn't they use that to fine people automatically fine people who are changing social group if they haven't been tested negative recently ? | 07:01 |
| ketas | ubLIX: once per day and alone? | 07:02 |
| CombatVet | so how did China spread this human-made virus? | 07:02 |
| IronY | prison rules | 07:02 |
| ketas | what happens in 2nd time | 07:02 |
| ubLIX | alone or with someone/people from your household - you can talk a walk with your mom/dad/siblings, say | 07:02 |
| ketas | medically, nothing | 07:02 |
| ubLIX | *talk>take | 07:03 |
| ketas | walkie-talkie with wifey | 07:03 |
| ketas | or waifu | 07:04 |
| IronY | Just think of all the people in the world that now don't have to explain their celibacy | 07:04 |
| IronY | too soon? | 07:04 |
| xionbox[m] | Sorry everyone, it seems like I spoke too soon. According to the official website, https://www.fs.usda.gov/about-agency/covid19-updates , it seems like only the facilities are closed, including restrooms, not the hiking. I can sleep better tonight | 07:05 |
| IronY | xionbox[m]: LOL | 07:05 |
| IronY | Hrm, lets do some fun math | 07:06 |
| xionbox[m] | Let me pour myself a drink and get back to work, my apologies | 07:06 |
| IronY | 37.59 million (2019) | 07:06 |
| IronY | population of canada | 07:06 |
| CombatVet | that stumulus paycheck though! | 07:06 |
| IronY | 9.985 million km² land mas sof canada | 07:06 |
| xionbox[m] | CombatVet: it's a single check, not a monthly one (despite the initial rumors recommending a monthly check for three months) | 07:06 |
| ubLIX | ketas: what happens the second time? https://i.redd.it/w7herlwqelo41.jpg | 07:06 |
| xionbox[m] | <ubLIX "ketas: what happens the second t"> lol | 07:07 |
| IronY | everyone in canada can have 0.26 MIllion km^2 to isolate in | 07:07 |
| IronY | now thats a plan | 07:07 |
| CombatVet | xionbox[m], didnt hear anything about the monthly thing | 07:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 05:59 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia news: all arrivals to be quarantined for 14 days, Scott Morrison announces – live updates — from r/WorldNews at 05:59: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/Ce0GF1 | 07:08 |
| xionbox[m] | CombatVet: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03/mitt-romney-give-every-american-adult-a-check-for-usd1-000.html . Seems like the GOP plan was a single check, and the Dems jumped on the idea to recommend the check be monthly. Interesting that the idea somewhat caught on on the left despite very little support for Yang in the presidential candidate race (he was in favor of a UBI of a thousand dollars per month) | 07:10 |
| IronY | Well it took a pandemic to get you socialism and some universal health care | 07:14 |
| IronY | maybe we can come out of this with you converting to metric over freedom units | 07:14 |
| sneep | 15:02 < CombatVet> so how did China spread this human-made virus? <-- So how did conspiracy theorists spread this conspiracy theory? | 07:22 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +685 cases (now 534787), +6 deaths (now 24155), +52 recoveries (now 124378) 🔸 Israel: +342 cases (now 3035), +2 deaths (now 10), +11 recoveries (now 79) 🔹 Alabama, US: +30 cases (now 531) 🔹 Antigua and Barbuda: +4 cases (now 7) 🔹 Argentina: +87 cases (now 589), +4 deaths (now 12), +9 recoveries (now 72) 🔹 Armenia: +39 cases (now 329) [... want %more?] | 07:23 |
| Albright | Fuck the GOP, fuck the Dems, fuck all these mad power grabs and government gibs. | 07:23 |
| Albright | Metric units are fine. Whatever. | 07:23 |
| Albright | All politicians should voluntarily retire and go do something productive with their lives. The ones that don't voluntarily retire should be strongly encouraged to. | 07:25 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 06:20 UTC: Coronavirus live news: US infections outnumber China as Australia announces quarantine plan: China closes borders; UK records biggest daily rise in deaths; South Africa enters military-patrolled lockdown. Follow the latest updates. — from r/WorldNews at 06:20: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/bAyvCD | 07:26 |
| IronY | Albright: maybe not all of them, I assume like 3 or 4 of them are actually doing the work | 07:28 |
| IronY | Lesley Knope for President | 07:29 |
| Albright | IronY: Any work a politician may do is at the cost of freedom. All of them. | 07:30 |
| IronY | I would believe you, but anyone on IRC at 2:30am EST probably needs the internet and utilities to keep running | 07:30 |
| Albright | My ISP is private and I'd be fine if my electric company were too. | 07:31 |
| IronY | if ur government collapses | 07:31 |
| IronY | what is paying the people showing up to keep these things running? | 07:31 |
| IronY | Your government collapses = your currency collapses = anarchy = your probably gonna die of something other then covid | 07:32 |
| Albright | Maybe. I don't know. Let's try it and find out. | 07:32 |
| IronY | aiight you guys pilot that shit out and let me know how it works lol | 07:32 |
| Albright | Anyway, it's only 12:30 AM here, and it would be EDT not EST | 07:33 |
| Albright | and I slept almost the entire day because time has no meaning anymore since I have no work and can't go anywhere interesting | 07:34 |
| xionbox[m] | IronY: you and I can watch from a bunker lol | 07:34 |
| Albright | so my day is just starting. | 07:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 06:28 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Overseas arrivals to Australia to be quarantined in hotels for two weeks over coronavirus — from r/WorldNews at 06:28: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/9lF62K | 07:39 |
| IronY | Albright: Minus the no work bit, you just described my normal life | 07:39 |
| IronY | xionbox[m]: I will see you in the bunker | 07:40 |
| IronY | My two jobs became two work from home jobs | 07:40 |
| Volhard[m] | Will the virus lead to a boom in automation? | 07:40 |
| IronY | Volhard[m]: that was already in place, but this will be a nice way of justifying the job losses it causes | 07:40 |
| Volhard[m] | Deaths at the lower tier could reduce protests in the future. I think some are aiming at that. | 07:42 |
| IronY | most of the people who are protesting are the poor young | 07:42 |
| IronY | they have the most to gain | 07:42 |
| Volhard[m] | Exactly. | 07:42 |
| IronY | I was thinking about this today | 07:42 |
| IronY | I am 35 | 07:42 |
| Volhard[m] | And they're more likely to die. | 07:42 |
| IronY | If I make it through this, It basically means Ill get a promotion | 07:43 |
| yuriwho | 2nd wave may hit the young preferentially | 07:43 |
| yuriwho | if it comes | 07:43 |
| IronY | I like to follow the alcoholics advice on this | 07:43 |
| IronY | One wave at a time | 07:43 |
| Volhard[m] | I support automation even though I'm broke as hell. Can't hinder progress. | 07:43 |
| Volhard[m] | Look at the past. | 07:44 |
| Volhard[m] | I'm from India (Kerala), so if you've got any questions, beam me. | 07:45 |
| IronY | So I am working on my list, so far | 07:45 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health at 06:37 UTC: Clap for Carers: UK in 'emotional' tribute to NHS and care workers: The UK thanks frontline coronavirus staff as firefighters agree to drive ambulances to help the NHS. — from r/WorldNews at 06:37: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/9awZtE | 07:45 |
| IronY | Lost, Trailer Park Boys, Scrubs, The wonder years | 07:45 |
| IronY | that should kill a month | 07:45 |
| Volhard[m] | Good for you. I got LibGen. | 07:46 |
| Volhard[m] | Should kill years tbh. | 07:46 |
| IronY | I moved from my home town about 5 years ago | 07:46 |
| IronY | I spent the last 5 years couped inside my house learning | 07:46 |
| Volhard[m] | Go on. Expand. | 07:46 |
| IronY | I went from a retail employee to a Sr Software Developer and College Professor inside this 5 year span | 07:46 |
| IronY | I just want to fucking chill out | 07:47 |
| IronY | and watch some people smoke weed on the tv | 07:47 |
| IronY | But I entirely support the libgen plan! | 07:47 |
| Volhard[m] | Ah. The first part's cool. | 07:47 |
| IronY | Volhard[m]: If u want more of the good part | 07:47 |
| IronY | I quit opiates like 9 years ago | 07:47 |
| IronY | that was one hell of a 'flu' | 07:48 |
| Volhard[m] | Then it's progress indeed. | 07:48 |
| IronY | SOmething that bothers me about the numbers we get | 07:48 |
| Volhard[m] | Where're you from? | 07:48 |
| IronY | I want to know how many of the young people who die that their family claims had no underlying health issues were crack heads / alchoholics/ hard core addicted to hard core drugs | 07:49 |
| IronY | Volhard[m]: Canada | 07:49 |
| Volhard[m] | Lol, why? | 07:49 |
| IronY | Volhard[m]: I suspect the numbers line up | 07:49 |
| IronY | I know plenty of people who are always one line away from an overdose, their immune system is nothing, they put drugs over their health for years, they look healthy, they are functioning, but there is no way they could take that shock to their system | 07:50 |
| Volhard[m] | How's it there, the policies? | 07:50 |
| IronY | Volhard[m]: more how many of the young case fatality also had underlying drug addictions / comorbidies that are not socially acceptable to announce | 07:51 |
| yuriwho | IronY: I should introduce you to a friend with a similar story | 07:51 |
| IronY | Wont see a local health unit ever publish "20 year old - died of covid - took 20 xtc a day' | 07:51 |
| Volhard[m] | I'm 21 and was never exposed to that world. | 07:51 |
| IronY | yuriwho: I would be more then interested! Gives people an interesting perspective | 07:51 |
| yuriwho | indeed | 07:52 |
| IronY | I have things good right now, I still am somehow employed with two well paying jobs, I have savings, but I have 0 fear of losing it all if it happens because it was not that long ago that having it in the first place seemed unrealistic | 07:52 |
| yuriwho | he has the same attitude | 07:52 |
| ryouma | do you have reason to expect this? that would show up for example if you join the data to the data of prevalence of such things perhaps? --- 23:49 <IronY> I want to know how many of the young people who die that their family claims had no underlying health issues were crack heads / alchoholics/ hard core addicted to hard core drugs | 07:52 |
| IronY | ryouma: exactly | 07:53 |
| ryouma | so is there a correlation? | 07:53 |
| IronY | I want to see if those in themselves are co-morbidities | 07:53 |
| IronY | thats the question | 07:53 |
| ryouma | i'd expect no until i see something convincing | 07:53 |
| Volhard[m] | Anyone here in data science? | 07:54 |
| IronY | I understand the need to aggregate data for privacy reasons, but like the website yuri posted, a lot could be done if we were all data mining this | 07:54 |
| yuriwho | like does youth death spike in opiod epidemic zones? | 07:54 |
| Volhard[m] | Hm... I'm pro surveillance. We're eons apart. | 07:54 |
| IronY | yuriwho: exactly | 07:54 |
| IronY | Volhard[m]: I have 12 google home speakers in this house | 07:55 |
| ryouma | well your question is aggregated | 07:55 |
| IronY | Some rooms have 2 | 07:55 |
| IronY | their is no privacy here | 07:55 |
| yuriwho | well, opiods are CNS (breathing) depressants | 07:55 |
| ryouma | i mean, nhs has centralized data | 07:55 |
| IronY | yuriwho: exactly, deaths are usually just a result of you forgetting to breath in your sleep | 07:55 |
| Volhard[m] | Too poor to afford those. | 07:55 |
| IronY | Volhard[m]: there like 35 dollars cad, and spotify was giving them away for free along with a shit ton of other places with the purchase of something else | 07:56 |
| IronY | I think I paid for like 4 of them | 07:56 |
| Volhard[m] | I'm pro surveillance and open source/transparency/... That bars me from buying them. | 07:56 |
| IronY | Everything else in my house is open source, there is just no true good open source voice recog atm | 07:57 |
| IronY | (yes I have tried all the projects coming to ur mind) | 07:57 |
| IronY | Volhard[m]: https://www.home-assistant.io/ I tie everything together with that | 07:57 |
| ryouma | why? --- 23:43 <yuriwho> 2nd wave may hit the young preferentially | 07:57 |
| Volhard[m] | I got my phone second hand for ~$45 with painstaked savings. Not happening. | 07:57 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 06:51 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: China suspends entry for most foreigners, Singapore will jail people who don't observe distancing — from r/WorldNews at 06:51: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/NwNiBJ | 07:57 |
| ryouma | because it spreads more there? | 07:57 |
| IronY | ryouma: Was kinda what happened during the spanish flu | 07:58 |
| IronY | https://www.history.com/news/spanish-flu-second-wave-resurgence | 07:58 |
| Volhard[m] | The world fails to build on knowledge. | 07:58 |
| Volhard[m] | I'm think a second wave would be more devastating as people won't be able to afford another lockdown. | 07:59 |
| IronY | to be fair on context | 07:59 |
| yuriwho | I have a theory about the immune response, antibody vs cell-mediated immunity and a second wave were it to arrive. Just a hypothesis really. | 07:59 |
| IronY | the spanish flu happened on war time, closing the borders and socially isolating was not in the vocab | 07:59 |
| Volhard[m] | Hm... I don't see the USA strictly locking down soon. | 08:00 |
| IronY | our worst nightmare in a paragraph | 08:00 |
| IronY | "Somewhere in Europe, a mutated strain of the Spanish flu virus had emerged that had the power to kill a perfectly healthy young man or woman within 24 hours of showing the first signs of infection." | 08:00 |
| Volhard[m] | Hope though. | 08:00 |
| IronY | %us | 08:01 |
| Volhard[m] | The question is "How long does it take to show symptoms?" | 08:01 |
| IronY | %data us | 08:01 |
| Brainstorm | IronY: In all areas, US, there are 85604 cases, 1301 deaths (1.5% of cases), 1868 recoveries as of March 27, 06:39Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 08:01 |
| IronY | " | 08:01 |
| IronY | From September through November of 1918, the death rate from the Spanish flu skyrocketed. In the United States alone, 195,000 Americans died from the Spanish flu in just the month of October." | 08:01 |
| Volhard[m] | If it's fast then it'll burn out. | 08:01 |
| IronY | Volhard[m]: thats exactly what happened with the spanish flu | 08:01 |
| Volhard[m] | What could a bioengineered virus do if deployed? | 08:02 |
| IronY | what it was designed to | 08:02 |
| IronY | kill everyone or force a paradigm shift | 08:03 |
| IronY | dealers choice | 08:03 |
| Albright | Volhard[m]: Do you buy into the bioweapon thing? | 08:03 |
| Volhard[m] | Optimized for death count then. | 08:03 |
| Volhard[m] | Nah. | 08:03 |
| IronY | I am neither for or against it, but we can worry about that when we get out of it first | 08:03 |
| IronY | if someone proves it we are heading into world war 3 | 08:04 |
| Volhard[m] | Albright: No. I'm speculating the implications of such an entity. | 08:04 |
| Volhard[m] | Do we even have the knowledge to design such a virus? | 08:04 |
| IronY | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CRISPR | 08:05 |
| Volhard[m] | WW3 is unlikely I think. | 08:05 |
| IronY | ww3 would be 5 mins long | 08:05 |
| Volhard[m] | I don't think any country would buy its doom. | 08:06 |
| Volhard[m] | Even if a bioweapon was released priorly. | 08:06 |
| IronY | Russia almost killed all of europe for almost ever due to operator error | 08:06 |
| Volhard[m] | Afaik CRISPR isn't for viruses (?) | 08:06 |
| IronY | the states almost started WW3 and MAD over a faulty radar | 08:07 |
| Volhard[m] | Wait, what kind of softwares did you work on? | 08:07 |
| Volhard[m] | I heard that story. | 08:07 |
| IronY | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis | 08:07 |
| IronY | I work on the most boring kind of software atm | 08:07 |
| IronY | Risk chain management with a focus on security | 08:08 |
| Volhard[m] | I'm curious as to what that involves. | 08:08 |
| IronY | Volhard[m]: It is not nearly as cool as I just made it sound, but due to NDA thats about as good as I can describe it | 08:08 |
| Volhard[m] | Isn't there a generic explanation about the topic? | 08:09 |
| IronY | it is mostly data gathering via audits and sub contracting things like pen tests | 08:09 |
| IronY | Basically if company A wants to do biz with Company B they can come to us and we will let them know the risk score of company b | 08:10 |
| Volhard[m] | I never looked into the security side of things. Probably someday. | 08:10 |
| Volhard[m] | What's the status of that protein folding grid computer? | 08:11 |
| IronY | folding@home? | 08:11 |
| Volhard[m] | Yup. Said they shot past some exa+. | 08:12 |
| IronY | they have more people participating atm then they have models (work units) to dole out | 08:12 |
| IronY | I get a few every couple days now | 08:13 |
| IronY | (which is a good thing, the bottle neck is not the grids output, its the models being inputed themselves) | 08:13 |
| Volhard[m] | Do you have any idea about its mechanisms? | 08:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 07:00 UTC: The National Trust: National Trust aims to lift lockdown spirits with #BlossomWatch — from r/WorldNews at 07:00: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/yYTitt | 08:13 |
| IronY | No idea on the science behind it | 08:13 |
| tinwhiskers | Volhard[m]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_gene_synthesis | 08:13 |
| IronY | not in the mood for video games, so the GPU may aswell be trying to save the world | 08:13 |
| Volhard[m] | Lol. I wish someone could explain. | 08:13 |
| Volhard[m] | tinwhiskers: I'm sure they couldn't bruteforce. | 08:14 |
| IronY | actually come to think of it I am going to throw every gpu I have at it now that my Hydro company suspended on peak vs off peak rates | 08:14 |
| tinwhiskers | Volhard[m]: usually engineered viruses are made by inserting new plasmids or germline sequences, but you can do "DNA printing" now and build an entire sequence from scratch (e.g. sequencing something then tweaking it as desired, then printing it) | 08:15 |
| Volhard[m] | tinwhiskers: And how do they simulate the protein workings? As far as I've known protein folding with lots of parts is a job for quantum computers. I might me wrong by a large margin. | 08:17 |
| tinwhiskers | You can get kits to do genetic engineering at home, such as inserting the glowing genes from jellyfish into yeast. It's not very difficult | 08:17 |
| IronY | tinwhiskers: Let me get good at surface mount soldering, then Ill hop on over to gene sequencing lol | 08:17 |
| Volhard[m] | The $150 CRISPR kits? | 08:17 |
| tinwhiskers | Well, if you're just making minor changes like copying genes or sequences from other organisms you don't really need to do that | 08:17 |
| tinwhiskers | Volhard[m]: it's not using CRISPR | 08:17 |
| Volhard[m] | Ah SMD. I'm thinking of getting a hot air station/ | 08:18 |
| IronY | real talk though, might be worth also getting a desoldering station | 08:18 |
| IronY | if times get tough, ull have every work bench from every dystopian video game ever | 08:18 |
| Volhard[m] | tinwhiskers: So how? And what's the procedure behind the jellyfish thingy? | 08:18 |
| Volhard[m] | Get an off grid energy system first. | 08:19 |
| tinwhiskers | I forget the name of the process, but it's not dissimilar to PCR using forward and reverse primers to identify regions where you want to cut and insert the sequence | 08:20 |
| IronY | 2019 - watching Dooms day preppers on netflix, think these people are a bit off | 08:20 |
| IronY | 2020 - watching dooms day preppers on netflix, jealous | 08:20 |
| tinwhiskers | I'm already off-grid | 08:20 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +3382 cases (now 538273), +17 deaths (now 24174), +8 recoveries (now 124395) 🔸 Germany: +3340 cases (now 47278), +14 deaths (now 281) 🔹 Australia: +23 cases (now 3166) 🔹 California, US: +8 cases (now 4052) 🔹 Greece: +6 recoveries (now 42) 🔹 Greenland: +3 cases (now 9) 🔹 India: +6 cases (now 753), +1 recoveries (now 67) [... want %more?] | 08:20 |
| Volhard[m] | tinwhiskers: I was asking about the protein validation scheme. | 08:20 |
| tinwhiskers | well, as I said you don't need any protein validation to do that | 08:21 |
| Volhard[m] | I'm almost 'off-a-living' | 08:21 |
| IronY | Btw, has anyone told the Amish about this yet | 08:21 |
| Volhard[m] | tinwhiskers: What do people do with the distributed computing then? | 08:22 |
| IronY | Volhard[m]: invent currencies for pump and dump schemes mostly | 08:22 |
| tinwhiskers | well, they're not engineering viruses! | 08:22 |
| Volhard[m] | Viruses could be excellent treatments though. And could you elaborate on the procedure? | 08:23 |
| tinwhiskers | they are looking for drug candidates for treating the disease. That does involve protein modelling, but you were talking about engineering a virus, so two different things | 08:23 |
| Volhard[m] | Oh, mixed em. Sorry. | 08:24 |
| Volhard[m] | How do they model protein behaviour? What's the search space complexity? | 08:24 |
| tinwhiskers | no idea | 08:24 |
| yuriwho | IronY: a fellow Canuck making his own macrofluidic personal ventilator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqRgISFuE0k | 08:25 |
| Volhard[m] | I think it gets a lot harder with each atom added. | 08:25 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health at 07:21 UTC: Clap for Carers: UK in 'emotional' tribute to NHS and care workers: The UK thanks frontline coronavirus staff as firefighters agree to drive ambulances to help the NHS. — from r/WorldNews at 07:21: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/9awZtE | 08:25 |
| Volhard[m] | I'd rather not work on a DIY substitute for a critical equipment. | 08:26 |
| IronY | yuriwho: the cheap chinese PCBS running this thing scare me | 08:26 |
| adventurer | Question for someone who knows about this....What is the likelihood of someone who catches this in their teens, 20s, 30s, 40s etc. to end up in hospital or the ICA. Latest data? | 08:26 |
| tinwhiskers | Volhard[m]: this was an interesting vid I watched about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx8TcGrCOSI (Spider Beer - Making Yeast Produce Spider Silk - youtube.com) | 08:26 |
| adventurer | s/ica/ICU | 08:26 |
| adventurer | s/ICA/ICU | 08:27 |
| Brainstorm | adventurer meant to say: Question for someone who knows about this....What is the likelihood of someone who catches this in their teens, 20s, 30s, 40s etc. to end up in hospital or the ICU. Latest data? | 08:27 |
| Mumuks[m] | <adventurer "Question for someone who knows a"> Very small, but still possible | 08:27 |
| IronY | 20% last I checked | 08:27 |
| Volhard[m] | Roll a dice. | 08:27 |
| IronY | 20% in the Hospital, not sure on the ICU | 08:27 |
| Mumuks[m] | <IronY "20% last I checked"> If you don't have a precondition the % is way lower | 08:27 |
| Volhard[m] | And what about being a male? | 08:28 |
| IronY | Mumuks[m]: oh for sure, there are a lot of people with preconditions that are not even aware they have preconditions though, thats the scary variable | 08:28 |
| Mumuks[m] | Plus the amount of people that has the virus without symptoms and it is not counted makes the real % even smaller | 08:28 |
| Volhard[m] | Who's ready to die? | 08:28 |
| IronY | yuriwho: this thing is awesome | 08:28 |
| IronY | (the vent) | 08:28 |
| tinwhiskers | adventurer: 80+ years old - 14.8%; 70-79 years old - 8.0%; 60-69 years old - 3.6%; 50-59 years old - 1.3%; 40-49 years old - 0.4%; 30-39 years old - 0.2%; 20-29 years old - 0.2%; 10-19 years old - 0.2% | 08:28 |
| IronY | those are cast fatality rates | 08:29 |
| tinwhiskers | adventurer: oh, sorry, that's death rate | 08:29 |
| Mumuks[m] | The virus is not very deadly, other viruses are way more deadly, way more, the issue with this virus is that it is extremely contagious | 08:29 |
| Volhard[m] | It'd have been better if this was more fatal. | 08:29 |
| Volhard[m] | China would've taken actiom sooner. | 08:29 |
| IronY | Quote from the Canadian building a ventilator - "I am busier than a guy with two dicks" | 08:30 |
| tinwhiskers | heh | 08:30 |
| Volhard[m] | The lower the fatality rate, the larger sample you wait for. | 08:30 |
| adventurer | haha | 08:30 |
| adventurer | God speed to people making ventilators | 08:31 |
| adventurer | I heard Elon Musk was making a bunch for USAA | 08:31 |
| adventurer | or something | 08:31 |
| IronY | Dyson | 08:31 |
| Volhard[m] | He's a scam, but a very good one. | 08:31 |
| IronY | adventurer: https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/26/21195433/dyson-ventilators-covent-coronavirus-develop-produce-uk-nhs-donate-vacuum-motor | 08:31 |
| Volhard[m] | He makes good stuff, but has the ultimate vision of being a very powerful figure. Own space and thou shalt be God. | 08:32 |
| adventurer | oh that's good IronY | 08:32 |
| IronY | that venitaltor is way to cool looking | 08:32 |
| IronY | lol | 08:33 |
| adventurer | I looks sort of like it plays music | 08:33 |
| adventurer | oh it's rainy here | 08:33 |
| IronY | likewise, free city wash day | 08:33 |
| adventurer | Well I hope they can make a lot of ventilators | 08:33 |
| IronY | I repurposed my pet cam today as a deterrent | 08:34 |
| adventurer | pet cam? | 08:34 |
| IronY | pointed it out the window aimed at the front door | 08:34 |
| Volhard[m] | Hope so, but with the leader USA's got, I don't think it'll be a smooth sail. | 08:34 |
| IronY | adventurer: Used it when the dog was a puppy, wide angle lense high res two way audio and night vision | 08:34 |
| Volhard[m] | tinwhiskers: Thanks for the spider-beer. I'll watch. | 08:35 |
| adventurer | i wore a scarf/bandana today if it didn't help at least it might have made people keep further away from me since i probably looked like such a idiot | 08:36 |
| adventurer | social distance done | 08:36 |
| Volhard[m] | I've been inside for the past two weeks. | 08:37 |
| Volhard[m] | And it looks like it'll be much longer. Perks of being inside a pseudo-communist state. | 08:37 |
| adventurer | but they write news here saying it's not use to wear masks or bandanas buti think maybe it helps a little to wear a bandana or scarf but leave the masks for medical staff as they are running out now | 08:37 |
| Volhard[m] | Wear masks. Lol | 08:37 |
| adventurer | Where are you Volhard[m] | 08:37 |
| adventurer | I have been doing UberEats | 08:37 |
| IronY | If you have masks | 08:37 |
| adventurer | my hands are getting dry from all the hand sanitizing | 08:38 |
| Volhard[m] | Or respirators of you can get your hands on them. | 08:38 |
| IronY | Please please do me a solid favor and spend a few hours watching instructional videos | 08:38 |
| IronY | on how to use them | 08:38 |
| Volhard[m] | Kerala. | 08:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 07:34 UTC: Singapore will jail and fine people who do not keep a 1-meter physical distance in public: Singapore announced stiff fines and jail on Thursday night for people who do not observe social distancing measures put in place to contain the coronavirus outbreak. — from r/WorldNews at 07:34: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/jFnONq | 08:38 |
| adventurer | oh Kerala in India! | 08:38 |
| adventurer | beautiful place i hear | 08:38 |
| adventurer | 'God's own country' | 08:39 |
| Volhard[m] | It's a lockdown for 21 days. I've locked myself a week prior to that. Got a stash of oats, peanuts, dates, biscuits, etc. | 08:39 |
| Volhard[m] | Not that beautiful. Hypes. | 08:39 |
| adventurer | oh yeah i got some of the oats too i haven't broken them open yet | 08:39 |
| adventurer | Looks pretty nice in the pictures | 08:39 |
| adventurer | also I heard the Elephants tend to go cray cray at some time of year | 08:39 |
| Volhard[m] | It's 35-38C with high humidity if you're into that kind of kink. | 08:40 |
| adventurer | not sure if that is hypes too but I saw a video and my friend who was from there said they did too | 08:40 |
| adventurer | well..maybe virus wont like the heat i am hoping | 08:40 |
| Volhard[m] | Guess your friends went to the 'beautiful' parts and not 'Kerala' | 08:40 |
| adventurer | i got to go be back later | 08:40 |
| adventurer | naa they were from Kerala | 08:41 |
| adventurer | It sounded nice | 08:41 |
| Volhard[m] | It's arguably better than most of the north though. | 08:41 |
| adventurer | Everyone I have heard mention it said it was nice | 08:41 |
| Volhard[m] | Ah, fellow people then. | 08:41 |
| Volhard[m] | Bye. | 08:41 |
| adventurer | but if you life there maybe you do not see it the same | 08:41 |
| adventurer | good luck on your quarantine | 08:41 |
| adventurer | Bye. | 08:42 |
| Volhard[m] | Maybe, but I'm too broke to travel. | 08:42 |
| adventurer | me too | 08:42 |
| Volhard[m] | IronY: What's your plan? | 08:43 |
| IronY | sorry plan for | 08:43 |
| IronY | buzzed out there for a second | 08:43 |
| adventurer | I heard on my radio today in India they did lockdown but some people live a long ditance from their home and because there was no transport they had to walk 250kms back home | 08:43 |
| adventurer | beccause they used to sleep near their work or something | 08:44 |
| adventurer | Anyway good luck | 08:44 |
| Volhard[m] | Staying safe? | 08:44 |
| Volhard[m] | A lot are poor here. | 08:44 |
| Volhard[m] | I'm sure poverty would kill them before the virus. | 08:44 |
| IronY | I am in Canada, we are already socialist | 08:44 |
| adventurer | doesn't sound good Volhard[m] | 08:44 |
| Volhard[m] | Not as much as we're | 08:44 |
| IronY | if the gov fails, drive 6 hours to back woods where everyone I know hunts and fishes | 08:44 |
| IronY | hide in the woods | 08:45 |
| IronY | start a colony probably | 08:45 |
| IronY | smoke weed and eat deer and moose for the rest of my life | 08:45 |
| Volhard[m] | We're a pseudo-democracy. Basically run by goons. | 08:45 |
| Volhard[m] | I'm sure you'll die faster. | 08:45 |
| adventurer | AU government already saaid no camping...that was my idea go to the forest but everyone might try to return to the forest right....where the fresh water and shade is | 08:45 |
| IronY | Volhard[m]: how so | 08:45 |
| adventurer | if the utilities fail and etc | 08:46 |
| IronY | adventurer: I did the math, there is over 0.23 Million kms per person in this country if we were to all spready out | 08:46 |
| IronY | squard | 08:46 |
| adventurer | Which country IronY | 08:46 |
| IronY | Canada | 08:46 |
| Volhard[m] | We've been isolating ourselves from the animal world and immune systems have diverged. I think Moose killed you. | 08:46 |
| IronY | 90% of our population exists in like 5% of our land mass | 08:46 |
| IronY | Volhard[m]: we already eat wild game often | 08:46 |
| adventurer | yeah but here in AU a lot is desert | 08:46 |
| IronY | adventurer: And a lot of ours is frozen tundra | 08:46 |
| Volhard[m] | That's good then. | 08:47 |
| IronY | I do not need a whole 0.23 million kms though | 08:47 |
| adventurer | only a bit around the coast is nicely habitable that wouldn't make it too difficult to get by | 08:47 |
| IronY | ill take 0.001 million kms squard fine lol | 08:47 |
| Volhard[m] | What does hunting feel like? | 08:48 |
| IronY | Volhard[m]: I am not a hunter myself, my girlfriend is though | 08:48 |
| IronY | as are all my friends and family | 08:48 |
| IronY | I was the computer guy | 08:48 |
| Volhard[m] | Ooh. You mean to say 'outcast'? | 08:48 |
| IronY | exactly, My entire life I have been picking my friends based on who I would want to have around when the world ended | 08:49 |
| Volhard[m] | Lol, I don't keep friends. | 08:49 |
| IronY | Issue is there all 5.5 hours away | 08:49 |
| IronY | but thats factoring in speed limits | 08:49 |
| IronY | 3.5 hours at a speed I feel comfortable at, less at speeds I would not | 08:49 |
| Volhard[m] | I've got allies and neutrals. No enemies, yet. | 08:50 |
| Volhard[m] | Too far. | 08:50 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 07:42 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: China suspends entry for most foreigners, Singapore will jail people who don't observe distancing — from r/WorldNews at 07:42: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/NwNiBJ | 08:50 |
| IronY | Volhard[m]: In canada you can drive for 10 hours and not leave your province | 08:50 |
| IronY | fun fact, we actually measure distance in time | 08:51 |
| IronY | no one says 'The next city is 200kms away' | 08:51 |
| IronY | it is 2 hours | 08:51 |
| IronY | all major highways are 100km per hour | 08:51 |
| IronY | makes the math easy | 08:51 |
| Volhard[m] | How do you expect the world to change in the next 20 years now the virus has happened. | 08:51 |
| Volhard[m] | IronY: Same here. | 08:51 |
| ubLIX | 20 years is a long time | 08:52 |
| ubLIX | good luck predictioneering over 12 months | 08:52 |
| Volhard[m] | Not sure if that's a good idea? | 08:52 |
| Volhard[m] | Yes long. I'm trying to learn long term predictions. | 08:52 |
| Volhard[m] | 12 months is meh. | 08:53 |
| Volhard[m] | 5 years is uh..? | 08:53 |
| ubLIX | "the only way to predict the future is to make it"? | 08:53 |
| IronY | I am somehow still getting job offers on linkedin | 08:53 |
| Volhard[m] | 10 years is 'I dunno'. | 08:53 |
| Volhard[m] | 20 is '?' | 08:53 |
| IronY | lol that be a fun interview | 08:53 |
| Volhard[m] | Medic? | 08:53 |
| IronY | 'So would you say you have any underlying conditions' | 08:53 |
| IronY | Volhard[m]: Software Engineer | 08:53 |
| Volhard[m] | ubLIX: Working on it. | 08:54 |
| ubLIX | good luck | 08:55 |
| Volhard[m] | If I were to be honest about my ideology, most would find it sick and cruel. So I'm keeping it to myself. Private chats if you wanna discuss. | 08:55 |
| Volhard[m] | I think it's something that'll eventually happen with progressing technology. People aren't ready yet. | 08:56 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 07:49 UTC: Eurozone: Economic cost of Covid-19 mounts as Chinese factory profits slump - business live — from r/WorldNews at 07:49: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/O9CFQm | 08:56 |
| Volhard[m] | <IronY "Volhard: Software Engineer "> IronY: What's your family's attitude on the situation? | 08:57 |
| Volhard[m] | Lol, I meant the virus. | 08:58 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 07:59 UTC: Singapore will jail and fine people who do not keep a 1-meter physical distance in public: Singapore announced stiff fines and jail on Thursday night for people who do not observe social distancing measures put in place to contain the coronavirus outbreak. — from r/WorldNews at 07:59: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/jFnONq | 09:02 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +220 cases (now 538493), +7 deaths (now 24181), +13 recoveries (now 124408) 🔹 Albania: +1 deaths (now 7) 🔹 Australia: +23 cases (now 3166) 🔹 Austria: +53 cases (now 6962) 🔹 Bahrain: +6 recoveries (now 210) 🔹 Bosnia and Herzegovina: +2 deaths (now 5) 🔹 California, US: +8 cases (now 4052) 🔹 Cameroon: +1 deaths (now 2) [... want %more?] | 09:05 |
| IronY | Volhard[m]: family is also 5.5 hours away | 09:08 |
| IronY | gf is ok with staying inside | 09:09 |
| IronY | we are both home bodies normally | 09:09 |
| Volhard[m] | Golden age of introverts. | 09:10 |
| Xip | Godspeed | 09:10 |
| Volhard[m] | Is dying better than >50% lung damage? | 09:12 |
| ecks | probably not | 09:12 |
| Volhard[m] | What's the tipping value? | 09:12 |
| light | 20% usually | 09:13 |
| light | but that's only in america, they don't tip in most countries | 09:13 |
| IronY | lol | 09:13 |
| Volhard[m] | I mean your brain takes ~20% of the oxygen supply. So I assume it should be more to live any meaningful life. | 09:14 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 08:12 UTC: Coronavirus live updates: Germany reports 5,780 new cases to a total of 42,288: Global cases of infection rose above 530,000 and around 24,000 people have died, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. — from r/WorldNews at 08:12: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/NwNiBJ | 09:15 |
| Volhard[m] | Funny indeed | 09:15 |
| Volhard[m] | What do you call that, num-pun? | 09:16 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +203 cases (now 538696) 🔹 Albania: +1 deaths (now 7) 🔹 Australia: +23 cases (now 3166) 🔹 Austria: +120 cases (now 7029) 🔹 Bahrain: +6 recoveries (now 210) 🔹 Bosnia and Herzegovina: +1 cases (now 192), +3 recoveries (now 5) 🔹 California, US: +8 cases (now 4052) 🔹 Cameroon: +1 deaths (now 2) 🔹 Croatia: +56 cases (now 551), +15 recoveries (now 37) [... want %more?] | 09:20 |
| sparkman | %Utah | 09:23 |
| sparkman | % Utah | 09:24 |
| mefistofeles | %cases Utah | 09:25 |
| Brainstorm | mefistofeles: In Utah, US, there are 402 cases, 1 deaths (0.2% of cases), 0 recoveries as of March 27, 08:15Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 09:25 |
| mefistofeles | sparkman: ↑ :) | 09:25 |
| sparkman | Thanks | 09:25 |
| Volhard[m] | %cases Kerala | 09:25 |
| Brainstorm | Volhard[m]: Sorry, Kerala not found. Either there aren't cases, or it's under a different name. | 09:25 |
| Volhard[m] | %cases India | 09:26 |
| Brainstorm | Volhard[m]: In all areas, India, there are 753 cases, 20 deaths (2.7% of cases), 67 recoveries as of March 27, 08:15Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=India for time series data. | 09:26 |
| anarcho-taco[m] | %cases NSW | 09:26 |
| Brainstorm | anarcho-taco[m]: In New Brunswick, Canada, there are 33 cases, 0 deaths (0.0% of cases), 0 recoveries as of March 27, 00:05Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=New%20Brunswick for time series data. | 09:26 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 08:16 UTC: Coronavirus live news: US must take action to improve relations, Xi says: South Africa records first Covid-19 death; China closes borders; UK records biggest daily rise in deaths. Follow the latest updates — from r/WorldNews at 08:16: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/bAyvCD | 09:27 |
| mefistofeles | Idia is a clear under-represented case | 09:27 |
| Volhard[m] | The whole automated data integration is an astounding feat most of us take for granted. | 09:28 |
| mefistofeles | *India | 09:28 |
| Volhard[m] | Lol, I think the same, but I'm not seeing any deaths. It should've exploded in social media by now. | 09:28 |
| mefistofeles | Volhard[m]: no, exactly... even considering the 20 deaths it reports | 09:28 |
| Volhard[m] | They're not testing, but deaths should show up. | 09:28 |
| mefistofeles | that would mean around 2000 cases | 09:28 |
| mefistofeles | but they say less than 800, so clearly they are not testing enough | 09:29 |
| Volhard[m] | Or shitty healthcare. | 09:29 |
| Strantrickt[m] | %data Turkey | 09:31 |
| Brainstorm | Strantrickt[m]: In all areas, Turkey, there are 3629 cases, 75 deaths (2.1% of cases), 26 recoveries as of March 27, 08:15Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Turkey for time series data. | 09:31 |
| Volhard[m] | India will take its own sweet time to explode. By the time most of the world would be past peak. Maybe not Africa. | 09:31 |
| mefistofeles | Volhard[m]: that can be, let's hope it won't be the case :P | 09:31 |
| mefistofeles | Strantrickt[m]: woah, Turkey is another clear under-representation :o | 09:32 |
| mefistofeles | that one is even more drastic | 09:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 08:27 UTC: Coronavirus live updates: Germany reports 5,780 new cases to a total of 42,288: Global cases of infection rose above 530,000 and around 24,000 people have died, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. — from r/WorldNews at 08:27: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/NwNiBJ | 09:33 |
| Volhard[m] | They're not testing communities.There was a sampling once and not one popped up. It might be a deliberate censor to stop people from panicking. | 09:34 |
| Volhard[m] | I don't trust the governments here. | 09:35 |
| Volhard[m] | %cases Pakistan | 09:35 |
| Brainstorm | Volhard[m]: In all areas, Pakistan, there are 1235 cases, 9 deaths (0.7% of cases), 23 recoveries as of March 27, 08:28Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Pakistan for time series data. | 09:35 |
| mefistofeles | now that makes more sense | 09:36 |
| Volhard[m] | Better than usmI suppose? | 09:36 |
| Volhard[m] | *us I | 09:36 |
| mefistofeles | for sure | 09:36 |
| anarcho-taco[m] | Scovid | 09:38 |
| PileOfDirt | Brainstorm is it warm there? sounds like heat helps | 09:39 |
| mefistofeles | anarcho-taco[m]: We prefer not to flood that type of content in this channel/room, just so you know :) | 09:40 |
| mefistofeles | PileOfDirt: I don't think it helps that much, tbh | 09:40 |
| anarcho-taco[m] | Iwanted to get a gauge on how aussie pm actions ie none, are being recieved internationally | 09:41 |
| Volhard[m] | Heat and sunshine definitely helps. You don't need a large brain to know that. | 09:41 |
| PileOfDirt | mefistofeles who knows, i just noticed pakistan and Singapore both had a lot easier time with the virus | 09:41 |
| PileOfDirt | both places its ~90f | 09:42 |
| mefistofeles | PileOfDirt: Singapore had a system to deal with epidemics since last SARS , decades ago | 09:42 |
| PileOfDirt | ~32c | 09:42 |
| mefistofeles | for Pakistan, apparently they are doing good testing, but they still have exponential growth | 09:42 |
| Volhard[m] | Temperature increases reaction rate. +10C => ~2x rate of chemical reaction. Sunlight gives out UV. | 09:43 |
| PileOfDirt | the death rate is what im concerned with. its considerably lower there | 09:43 |
| mefistofeles | PileOfDirt: that's because they are doing extensive testing | 09:43 |
| mefistofeles | of course the more cases you test/confirm the less the death rate | 09:44 |
| Volhard[m] | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrhenius_equation | 09:44 |
| PileOfDirt | How does testing save you? | 09:44 |
| Volhard[m] | Control spreads? | 09:44 |
| mefistofeles | PileOfDirt: most countries only test the most severe cases, so that's why the death rate is higher, because it's very under-represented | 09:44 |
| PileOfDirt | How does that curb death rates among infected? | 09:44 |
| mefistofeles | the WHO has already estimated the death rate to be around 1%, specially from data of countries that has done extensive testing, such as Korea, China , Hong Kong and SIngapore | 09:45 |
| Volhard[m] | Most infected don't die. By controlling growth, you reduce deaths. And you focus on an infected area with more resources. | 09:46 |
| mefistofeles | you can check this in the links in the URL in the topic, I suggest "THe Lancet" article referenced there | 09:46 |
| PileOfDirt | Holy shit i learned something in an irc | 09:46 |
| Volhard[m] | Lol. I've been on a learning spree since I joined here a few hours ago. | 09:47 |
| PileOfDirt | Most irc channels i dont even bother, like 95% idiots. | 09:49 |
| Volhard[m] | Wait, where did you join? I think most chat rooms here taught me a lot. More so that Kik and Quora combined for several months. | 09:50 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +358 cases (now 539054), +9 deaths (now 24188), +11 recoveries (now 124440) 🔹 Albania: +1 deaths (now 7) 🔹 Australia: +23 cases (now 3166) 🔹 Austria: +120 cases (now 7029) 🔹 Bahrain: +6 recoveries (now 210) 🔹 Bosnia and Herzegovina: +1 cases (now 192), +3 recoveries (now 5) 🔹 California, US: +8 cases (now 4052) 🔹 Cameroon: +1 deaths (now 2) [... want %more?] | 09:50 |
| Volhard[m] | Add Discourse and Discord too to the rubble. | 09:51 |
| Volhard[m] | Heck I've done better on Hangouts. | 09:51 |
| Volhard[m] | A notable exception would be 'John Gould' on Quora. He was like a mentor to me. | 09:52 |
| PileOfDirt | Volhard[m] specifically tech channels. They just think of 100 reasons why your solution is wrong. | 09:55 |
| PileOfDirt | Volhard[m] They dont have any solutions or answers themselves | 09:55 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 08:55 UTC: /u/pixelcraftables: Buongiorno a tutti. Mentre eravate via: — from r/WorldNews at 08:55: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/VgeOcX | 09:58 |
| Volhard[m] | I've never joined many, so can't say. Linux seems to be a decent place with '@Levy Elara'. Can't say about Haskell as I'm new there. Postmarket OS Offtopic is sweet. PyTorch and ARM Assembly haven't yet begun. That sums it up for now. | 09:58 |
| PileOfDirt | Volhard[m] ##hardware is cancer lol | 09:59 |
| Volhard[m] | Okay, I'll try. | 09:59 |
| Volhard[m] | You mean @MMJD-MxO? | 10:01 |
| CovBot | I have a new command: !risk. E.g. !risk 30. For a person of the given age it calculates the risk to them if they become sick with COVID-19. Many thanks to David Côté-Tremblay for working on this! | 10:02 |
| Volhard[m] | Don't see much activity there? | 10:02 |
| Volhard[m] | !risk 21 | 10:02 |
| Volhard[m] | Guess the bot died estimating. | 10:03 |
| pwr22 | I'm not sure why it hasn't responded yet, it seems to be doing so fine in other rooms | 10:04 |
| pwr22 | !risk 21 | 10:04 |
| CovBot | I estimate a 21 year old patient sick with COVID-19 has a 100.0% chance of survival, a 5.9% liklihood of needing to go to hospital, a 0.1% risk of needing intensive care there and a 0.0% chance of death. | 10:04 |
| Volhard[m] | LMAO | 10:04 |
| Volhard[m] | 100.0% | 10:04 |
| CovBot | I estimate a 21 year old patient sick with COVID-19 has a 100.0% chance of survival, a 5.9% liklihood of needing to go to hospital, a 0.1% risk of needing intensive care there and a 0.0% chance of death. | 10:04 |
| Volhard[m] | I think it should go with an 8-digit precision | 10:05 |
| PileOfDirt | idk, lot of 20 year olds in usa arent in that great shape | 10:07 |
| Volhard[m] | I remember that guy - "If I get Corona, I get Corona". | 10:08 |
| Volhard[m] | Florida | 10:08 |
| farn | 100%, huh. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/25/uk-woman-21-with-no-health-issues-dies-from-covid-19-family-say | 10:08 |
| Volhard[m] | %cases Florida | 10:08 |
| Brainstorm | Volhard[m]: In Florida, US, there are 2484 cases, 29 deaths (1.2% of cases), 0 recoveries as of March 27, 08:57Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 10:08 |
| Volhard[m] | farn: It's a rounding issue I think. | 10:09 |
| PileOfDirt | This is the one time im glad my ancestors came from trash, they gave me the genetics to deal with illnesses lmao | 10:09 |
| Volhard[m] | Location? | 10:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 09:07 UTC: /u/pixelcraftables: I Tweet del Giorno — from r/WorldNews at 09:07: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/rVLee3 | 10:10 |
| Mikaela | %data Czechia | 10:12 |
| Brainstorm | Mikaela: In all areas, Czechia, there are 2062 cases, 9 deaths (0.4% of cases), 10 recoveries as of March 27, 08:57Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Czechia for time series data. | 10:12 |
| IronSnout | %data Colombia | 10:13 |
| Brainstorm | IronSnout: In all areas, Colombia, there are 491 cases, 6 deaths (1.2% of cases), 8 recoveries as of March 27, 08:57Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Colombia for time series data. | 10:13 |
| dividediff[m] | atm 24000 global deaths. Assuming avg human height is 1.65m, there are enough dead bodies to line a distance of 24000 * 1.65/1000 km | 10:19 |
| farn | really makes you think | 10:19 |
| dividediff[m] | 39.6 km | 10:19 |
| dividediff[m] | to put in a line** | 10:20 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +563 cases (now 539617), +10 deaths (now 24198), +11 recoveries (now 124451) 🔸 Austria: +220 cases (now 7129) 🔹 Albania: +2 deaths (now 8) 🔹 Australia: +23 cases (now 3166) 🔹 Bahrain: +6 recoveries (now 210) 🔹 Bosnia and Herzegovina: +1 cases (now 192), +3 recoveries (now 5) 🔹 California, US: +8 cases (now 4052) 🔹 Cameroon: +1 deaths (now 2) [... want %more?] | 10:20 |
| dividediff[m] | for reference, mt everest is 8.8km tall, mariana's trench 10km deep | 10:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 09:18 UTC: Coronavirus live updates: Germany reports 5,780 new cases to a total of 42,288: Global cases of infection rose above 530,000 and around 24,000 people have died, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. — from r/WorldNews at 09:18: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/NwNiBJ | 10:22 |
| dividediff[m] | Hiv has killed ~25m, enough to wrap the dead bodies around the circumference of the earth | 10:24 |
| Volhard[m] | No, align their DNA strands, or all their atoms. | 10:25 |
| Volhard[m] | This is hilarious. | 10:25 |
| Volhard[m] | https://www.quora.com/If-all-the-atoms-in-a-human-body-were-lined-up-how-long-would-that-line-be?share=1 | 10:27 |
| Volhard[m] | Now multiply that by 24000 assuming that guy was right. | 10:27 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 09:19 UTC: Coronavirus live news: US must take action to improve relations, Xi says: South Africa records first Covid-19 deaths; China closes borders; UK records biggest daily rise in deaths. Follow the latest updates — from r/WorldNews at 09:19: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/bAyvCD | 10:29 |
| AimHere | https://bylinetimes.com/2020/03/26/the-coronavirus-crisis-oxford-model-touting-herd-immunity-was-promoted-by-pr-agency-tied-to-ministry-of-defence-and-nudge-unit/ <- that dodgy Oxford Report seems to have been pushed by PR guys for some weird reason | 10:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 09:37 UTC: Coronavirus live updates: Germany reports 5,780 new cases to a total of 42,288: Global cases of infection rose above 530,000 and around 24,000 people have died, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. — from r/WorldNews at 09:37: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/NwNiBJ | 10:41 |
| xrogaan | https://www.ibtimes.com/16-year-old-among-virus-dead-frances-highest-daily-toll-2947704 | 10:42 |
| xrogaan | Healthy young girl, with no underlying health issue, died from the disease. | 10:42 |
| oddbob | so sad. | 10:46 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +3091 cases (now 542708), +156 deaths (now 24354), +846 recoveries (now 125297) 🔸 Iran: +2926 cases (now 32332), +144 deaths (now 2378), +676 recoveries (now 11133) 🔹 Albania: +2 deaths (now 8) 🔹 Australia: +23 cases (now 3166) 🔹 Austria: +9 deaths (now 58), +113 recoveries (now 225) 🔹 Bosnia and Herzegovina: +38 cases (now 230) [... want %more?] | 10:50 |
| Volhard[m] | Hundreds of thousands die each day on a normal basis and we're oblivious to it. Don't take death as a sad thing, it's the circle of life as for all living beings. Stay strong. | 10:51 |
| xrogaan | Every death is a tragedy. | 10:54 |
| Volhard[m] | Every birth is a beauty and so is every death. It's all the rules of our Universe dancing. None can do anything about it as we're all slaves to it. | 10:58 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 09:49 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: English councils reportedly asked to house all rough sleepers this weekend — from r/WorldNews at 09:49: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/OCAQX4 | 10:59 |
| Volhard[m] | A Human infected is a feast of viruses, just like we do with animals and plants. It's all a grand machinery, with parts that gawk at the totality. | 11:00 |
| euod[m] | neat. f@h has more covid work. | 11:02 |
| xrogaan | Volhard[m]: Go tell that to the mother of the girl who couldn't even keep her belongings. | 11:02 |
| Volhard[m] | Could we use Google's Colaboratory for the purpose? They offer 16GB Tesla P100 for several hours at a time. | 11:04 |
| mefistofeles | Volhard[m]: I don't think so | 11:05 |
| Volhard[m] | I can't do anything about the girl's mother. She's bound to suffer for a while. | 11:05 |
| mefistofeles | euod[m]: finishing a WU as we speak | 11:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health at 09:58 UTC: Clap for Carers: UK in 'emotional' tribute to NHS and care workers: The UK thanks frontline coronavirus staff as firefighters agree to drive ambulances to help the NHS. — from r/WorldNews at 09:58: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/9awZtE | 11:06 |
| Volhard[m] | <Volhard[m] "I can't do anything about the gi"> Though one could if we could alter her brain. Now is that ethical in the modern world? I don't think so, but will surely be someday like euthanization. | 11:08 |
| Volhard[m] | Black Mirror's real, but only several times amplified. | 11:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 10:05 UTC: Coronavirus live updates: Germany reports 5,780 new cases to a total of 42,288: Global cases of infection rose above 530,000 and around 24,000 people have died, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. — from r/WorldNews at 10:05: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/NwNiBJ | 11:10 |
| Strantrickt[m] | %data Turkey | 11:11 |
| Brainstorm | Strantrickt[m]: In all areas, Turkey, there are 3629 cases, 75 deaths (2.1% of cases), 26 recoveries as of March 27, 10:03Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Turkey for time series data. | 11:11 |
| Volhard[m] | The common people were struck down, but now this happens. | 11:11 |
| Volhard[m] | https://www.reddit.com/r/india/comments/fprgd9/police_attack_towards_kondotty_municipal_council/ | 11:11 |
| Volhard[m] | A lot of people were harassed/beaten including doctors, journalists, people buying groceries, food deliverers,... by the police. Now they've messed with a not so powerlesa foe. | 11:13 |
| Volhard[m] | *powerless | 11:13 |
| mefistofeles | Volhard[m]: where's that? | 11:14 |
| mefistofeles | ah India, ok | 11:14 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 10:12 UTC: /u/pixelcraftables: Lombardia — from r/WorldNews at 10:12: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/7dXEUM | 11:14 |
| mefistofeles | yeah, similar things have been happening in Latin America as well | 11:14 |
| mefistofeles | wait, that's actually nothing xD | 11:15 |
| Volhard[m] | This one was in Kerala. There're a lot of things popping up. You could look up on a search engine. A man who went to buy milk was attacked by the police and died. | 11:15 |
| Volhard[m] | This was nothing, because he was a not so ordinary man. | 11:15 |
| mefistofeles | sadly in latin america people have been experiencing massive riots already | 11:15 |
| Volhard[m] | Shit, that's bad. People should calm down. | 11:16 |
| Volhard[m] | Else it's gonna be worse for everyone. | 11:16 |
| mefistofeles | surely | 11:16 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +1199 cases (now 543907), +72 deaths (now 24426), +7 recoveries (now 125304) 🔸 Belgium: +1049 cases (now 7284), +69 deaths (now 289) 🔹 Albania: +2 deaths (now 8) 🔹 Australia: +23 cases (now 3166) 🔹 Austria: +67 cases (now 7196), +9 deaths (now 58), +113 recoveries (now 225) 🔹 Belarus: +8 cases (now 94) 🔹 Bosnia and Herzegovina: +38 cases (now 230) [... want %more?] | 11:21 |
| mirsal | %more | 11:24 |
| Brainstorm | mirsal, [...] 🔹 Brunei: +1 cases (now 115), +6 recoveries (now 11) 🔹 Delaware, US: +13 cases (now 143), +1 deaths (now 2) 🔹 Faeroe Islands: +4 cases (now 144) 🔹 Finland: +46 cases (now 1004) 🔹 Ghana: +4 cases (now 136) 🔹 India: +8 cases (now 761), +4 recoveries (now 71) 🔹 Lithuania: +1 deaths (now 5) 🔹 Mayotte: +14 cases (now 50) [...] → https://paste.ee/p/cBUm9 | 11:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 10:25 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: English councils reportedly asked to house all rough sleepers this weekend — from r/WorldNews at 10:25: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/OCAQX4 | 11:31 |
| Volhard[m] | Some places in the country set grocery hours from 6-9 am. Bad, bad, really stupid idea. | 11:32 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +354 cases (now 544261), +3 deaths (now 24429), +186 recoveries (now 125490) 🔹 Albania: +2 deaths (now 8) 🔹 Australia: +23 cases (now 3166) 🔹 Austria: +67 cases (now 7196), +9 deaths (now 58), +113 recoveries (now 225) 🔹 Belarus: +8 cases (now 94) 🔹 Belgium: +183 recoveries (now 858) 🔹 Estonia: +3 recoveries (now 11) 🔹 Finland: +28 cases (now 1032) [... want %more?] | 11:35 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 10:40 UTC: /u/pixelcraftables: Spagna — from r/WorldNews at 10:40: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/MZeFJp | 11:43 |
| Mr_Pink | 300 dead from fake cure in Iran. https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1243487690714210305 | 11:44 |
| Biep[m] | [Much more than under Obama!](https://is.gd/GiVdxL) | 11:48 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +144 cases (now 544405), +1 deaths (now 24430), +767 recoveries (now 126257) 🔸 Switzerland: +140 cases (now 11951), +3 deaths (now 197), +766 recoveries (now 897) 🔹 Albania: +12 cases (now 186), +2 deaths (now 8) 🔹 Australia: +23 cases (now 3166) 🔹 Austria: +67 cases (now 7196), +9 deaths (now 58), +113 recoveries (now 225) 🔹 Belarus: +8 cases (now 94) [... want %more?] | 11:51 |
| euod[m] | Mr_Pink: wait, methanol!? | 11:51 |
| euod[m] | wtf are people doing. | 11:51 |
| Atque | euod[m]: Most people are silly, man. | 11:55 |
| Volhard[m] | <euod[m] "wtf are people doing. "> Welcome to Humanity. | 11:58 |
| Volhard[m] | Could be a PR stunt. | 11:58 |
| Volhard[m] | Murdered for cigars? | 12:00 |
| Volhard[m] | https://mumbaimirror.indiatimes.com/mumbai/crime/man-killed-after-he-refused-to-share-cigarettes-in-kalyan/articleshow/74838126.cms | 12:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 10:55 UTC: Coronavirus map of the US: latest cases state by state: Coronavirus – live updates Full coronavirus coverage The number of confirmed cases of Covid-19 continues to grow in the US. Mike Pence, the vice-president, is overseeing the US response to the coronavirus. — from r/WorldNews at 10:55: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/OKRfjD | 12:00 |
| Mr_Pink | Yikes "Spain death toll rises by 769 in largest single-day surge" | 12:01 |
| Biep[m] | <aradesh "if you want to improve the world"> A good place is by *not* starting a family, but instead adopting some orphans, and bringing *those* up well. No need to add to the overpopulation.. | 12:01 |
| Volhard[m] | Baked her child in an oven for being a 'girl' | 12:01 |
| Volhard[m] | https://www.deccanchronicle.com/nation/crime/260320/karnataka-woman-arrested-for-burning-her-baby-alive-in-oven.html | 12:01 |
| Volhard[m] | If you want more, just ping me. | 12:03 |
| Mr_Pink | This is covid chat not recipe swaps | 12:03 |
| Atque | Mr_Pink: Do you have COVID-19? | 12:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 11:02 UTC: /u/pixelcraftables: Spagna — from r/WorldNews at 11:02: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/c9Xzcj | 12:04 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +6278 cases (now 550683), +493 deaths (now 24923), +2342 recoveries (now 128599) 🔸 Spain: +6273 cases (now 64059), +493 deaths (now 4858), +2342 recoveries (now 9357) 🔹 Albania: +12 cases (now 186), +2 deaths (now 8) 🔹 Australia: +24 cases (now 3167) 🔹 Austria: +67 cases (now 7196), +9 deaths (now 58), +113 recoveries (now 225) [... want %more?] | 12:06 |
| Biep[m] | <pwr22 "If anyone wants to look at the c"> It is a good thing I know the context of this remark.. | 12:07 |
| dTal | I see this channel is also suffering Invasion Of The Stats Bots | 12:10 |
| Volhard[m] | <Mr_Pink "This is covid chat not recipe sw"> Sorry. I'll do better. | 12:16 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 11:07 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: English councils asked to house all rough sleepers this weekend — from r/WorldNews at 11:07: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/OCAQX4 | 12:17 |
| AimHere | UK Prime Minister has tested positive for Coronavirus https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1243496497729191936 | 12:18 |
| yuriwho | BBC: Boris Johnson is positive (no link yet) | 12:19 |
| merethan | Very positiva man indeed. | 12:19 |
| yuriwho | https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2020/mar/27/uk-coronavirus-live-rough-sleepers-nhs-applause-covid-19-latest-news | 12:20 |
| mefistofeles | that's a good way to raise awareness fwiw :P | 12:20 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +330 cases (now 551013), +1 deaths (now 24924), +21 recoveries (now 128620) 🔸 Romania: +263 cases (now 1292), +21 recoveries (now 115) 🔹 Albania: +12 cases (now 186), +2 deaths (now 8) 🔹 Australia: +37 cases (now 3180) 🔹 Austria: +67 cases (now 7196), +9 deaths (now 58), +113 recoveries (now 225) 🔹 Bahrain: +8 cases (now 466) [... want %more?] | 12:21 |
| merethan | yuriwho, Boris Johnson link: https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1243496497729191936 | 12:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health at 11:17 UTC: Clap for Carers: UK in 'emotional' tribute to NHS and care workers: The UK thanks frontline coronavirus staff as firefighters agree to drive ambulances to help the NHS. — from r/WorldNews at 11:17: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/9awZtE | 12:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 11:26 UTC: /u/BlatantConservative: UK Prime Ministet Boris Johnson tests positive for coronavirus — from r/WorldNews at 11:26: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/qfPFVb | 12:29 |
| contingo | oh my days | 12:30 |
| MrBrave | F | 12:30 |
| euod[m] | ouch. | 12:31 |
| kreyren | Based on czech republic's patient age 35yo male *remdesivir is an efficient cure agains covid-19*, see https://www.irozhlas.cz/zpravy-domov/remdesivir-koronavirus-koronavir-epidemie-vseobecna-fakultni-nemocnice-nakaza_2003271031_gak, Patient was on CPB and is now getting better (currently on ventilator) | 12:32 |
| kreyren | live briefing about this here https://www.idnes.cz/zpravy/domaci/remdesivir-koronavirus-covid-19-taxikar.A200327_092720_domaci_kop | 12:32 |
| kreyren | in czech though >.> | 12:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 11:29 UTC: /u/pixelcraftables: Boris Johnson Positivo al coronavirus — from r/WorldNews at 11:29: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/RDOzyT | 12:33 |
| MrBrave | Fake? | 12:34 |
| AimHere | Not fake | 12:34 |
| AimHere | Re: Johnson | 12:34 |
| kreyren | EDIT: patient is still in critical state, but is getting better after remdesivir. | 12:35 |
| euod[m] | https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1243496858095411200 | 12:36 |
| AimHere | One anecdotal instance of a patient getting better - particularly a 35-year-old with a 99.something% chance of survival, isn't great evidence that the drug is effected | 12:36 |
| AimHere | *effective | 12:36 |
| kreyren | Czech republic is also getting Avigan from Japan which is based on available information also efficient agains covid-19 | 12:37 |
| kreyren | ^ citation needed, will provide more info as it's being administered | 12:37 |
| microman1 | not fake its on the bbc | 12:37 |
| microman1 | he has mild symptons he'll be fine i guess | 12:38 |
| euod[m] | seems more and more inevitable that this can't be stopped. | 12:39 |
| yuriwho | what pisses me off is celebrities getting tested | 12:39 |
| euod[m] | at least in the US/UK | 12:39 |
| mefistofeles | like NBA teams/players :P | 12:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 11:38 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: Boris Johnson tests positive for Covid-19 — from r/WorldNews at 11:38: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/OCAQX4 | 12:46 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 11:51 UTC: Coronavirus live updates: Russia reports spike in cases; Hungary imposes national lockdown: Global cases of infection rose above 530,000 and around 24,000 people have died, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. — from r/WorldNews at 11:51: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/NwNiBJ | 12:54 |
| sneep | Boris... | 12:59 |
| sneep | First "sort of head of state" to get it? | 13:00 |
| AimHere | Angela Merkel was quarantined recently, can't recall if she was diagnosed | 13:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 11:54 UTC: How to enjoy birthdays and romantic dinners in lockdown: You can still have fun in social isolation, with Michelin-starred meals, choir singing and date nights on hand to bring good cheer — from r/WorldNews at 11:54: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/ViQRFN | 13:03 |
| AimHere | "I was at a hospital the other night where I think there were a few coronavirus patients and I shook hands with everybody, you will be pleased to know, and I continue to shake hands," [Boris Johnson] said | 13:05 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +293 cases (now 551306), +9 deaths (now 24933), +80 recoveries (now 128700) 🔹 Albania: +12 cases (now 186), +2 deaths (now 8), +14 recoveries (now 31) 🔹 Armenia: +10 recoveries (now 28) 🔹 Australia: +37 cases (now 3180) 🔹 Austria: +188 cases (now 7317), +9 deaths (now 58), +113 recoveries (now 225) 🔹 Bahrain: +8 cases (now 466), +17 recoveries (now 227) [... want %more?] | 13:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 12:05 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: UK's Boris Johnson tests positive, Spain's death toll spikes — from r/WorldNews at 12:05: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/U4IxHI | 13:11 |
| aradesh | nooo | 13:12 |
| aradesh | not boris | 13:12 |
| aradesh | what are we gonna do? :O | 13:12 |
| AimHere | I'll get the party streamers and the bunting. You bake the cake | 13:12 |
| sneep | AimHere: Where's that quote form? | 13:14 |
| AimHere | sneep, I got it from The Register, but they probably took it from a newspaper; hang on | 13:15 |
| sneep | https://www.newsweek.com/boris-johnson-says-shaken-hands-coronavirus-patients-1490214 | 13:15 |
| sneep | found, March 3 | 13:15 |
| AimHere | or that | 13:15 |
| AimHere | 24 days. That's a long time to wait before it becomes symptomatic | 13:15 |
| AimHere | That is suggestive that there's another source of infection, though it also suggests that Boris wasn't exactly super-careful about avoiding infection | 13:16 |
| sneep | "People obviously can make up their own minds but I think the scientific evidence is… our judgement is that washing your hands is the crucial thing." | 13:16 |
| sneep | Yeah... kinda sorta :p | 13:16 |
| AimHere | What is the coronavirus-era safe version of a facepalm? | 13:17 |
| Timvde | AimHere: Pounding your face against a wall? | 13:26 |
| Timvde | Could hurt a bit more if you're not careful though | 13:26 |
| adventurer | https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/coronavirus-boris-johnson-tests-positive-for-coronavirus/news-story/bf2a4375839024c789faa1410ba322fa | 13:26 |
| AimHere | And you have to make sure nobody else has pounded that wall recently | 13:27 |
| AimHere | Maybe get a bottle of wall sanitizer from the supermarket first | 13:27 |
| Timvde | There's enough room on the wall to each get a spot 2 meters apart! | 13:27 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 12:26 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: UK's Boris Johnson tests positive, mall staple retailers announce massive furloughs — from r/WorldNews at 12:26: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/U4IxHI | 13:32 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +870 cases (now 552176), +31 deaths (now 24964), +1 recoveries (now 128701) 🔸 Portugal: +724 cases (now 4268), +16 deaths (now 76) 🔹 Albania: +12 cases (now 186), +2 deaths (now 8), +14 recoveries (now 31) 🔹 Andorra: +43 cases (now 267) 🔹 Armenia: +10 recoveries (now 28) 🔹 Australia: +37 cases (now 3180) [... want %more?] | 13:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 12:36 UTC: /u/pixelcraftables: Hong Kong — from r/WorldNews at 12:36: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/cAh2xg | 13:40 |
| ubLIX | cunt | 13:43 |
| ubLIX | omg i'm so sorry was searching logs | 13:43 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 12:39 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: Spain records highest single-day death toll and withdraws 'inaccurate' testing kits — from r/WorldNews at 12:39: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/bAyvCD | 13:49 |
| yuriwho | %t https://twitter.com/TectonixGEO/status/1242628347034767361 | 13:49 |
| Brainstorm | yuriwho: From twitter.com: Tectonix GEO su Twitter: "Want to see the true potential impact of ignoring social distancing? Through a partnership with @xmodesocial, we analyzed secondary locations of anonymized mobile devices [...] | 13:49 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +236 cases (now 552412) 🔸 Norway: +289 cases (now 3669), +1 deaths (now 16) 🔹 Albania: +12 cases (now 186), +2 deaths (now 8), +14 recoveries (now 31) 🔹 Andorra: +43 cases (now 267) 🔹 Armenia: +10 recoveries (now 28) 🔹 Australia: +37 cases (now 3180) 🔹 Austria: +188 cases (now 7317), +9 deaths (now 58), +113 recoveries (now 225) [... want %more?] | 13:51 |
| python476 | o/ | 13:53 |
| python476 | I just read the article about Dr Raoult | 13:53 |
| python476 | what a shit show | 13:53 |
| python476 | https://forbetterscience.com/2020/03/26/chloroquine-genius-didier-raoult-to-save-the-world-from-covid-19/ | 13:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 12:51 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: UK's Boris Johnson tests positive, mall staple retailers announce massive furloughs — from r/WorldNews at 12:51: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/U4IxHI | 13:57 |
| python476 | https://twitter.com/chrissyfarr/status/1241121029084164096 | 14:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 12:55 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: Boris Johnson tests positive for Covid-19 and Scotland death toll rises to 33 — from r/WorldNews at 12:55: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/OCAQX4 | 14:01 |
| cews | > Health Secretary Matt Hancock tests positive for coronavirus | 14:03 |
| mefistofeles | python476: haha, nice one | 14:05 |
| cews | https://twitter.com/MattHancock/status/1243522325397622784?s=20 | 14:05 |
| python476 | if you want more natura-aww https://returntonow.net/2020/03/20/while-humans-are-social-distancing-elephants-are-stealing-their-wine-and-partying/ | 14:06 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +710 cases (now 553122), +12 deaths (now 24976), +2 recoveries (now 128703) 🔸 Switzerland: +360 cases (now 12311), +10 deaths (now 207) 🔸 Austria: +264 cases (now 7393), +9 deaths (now 58), +113 recoveries (now 225) 🔹 Albania: +12 cases (now 186), +2 deaths (now 8), +14 recoveries (now 31) 🔹 Andorra: +43 cases (now 267) [... want %more?] | 14:06 |
| python476 | I'm confused, I don't know if I woke up with sore throat in the night or if it was a dream | 14:06 |
| mefistofeles | corona | 14:06 |
| python476 | probably too much reading of patient cases | 14:06 |
| python476 | BoJo had the face of someone sick earlier | 14:08 |
| python476 | I'm not surprised | 14:08 |
| python476 | Trump also looks a bit diminished | 14:08 |
| mefistofeles | all these "famouse" or public people getting it actually makes it good for awareness, they claiming "stay at home" and all that | 14:08 |
| python476 | true | 14:08 |
| mefistofeles | I mean, for some reasons they all have "mild to no" symptoms ... ;) | 14:09 |
| python476 | especially those who were saying 'nah.. get over it' | 14:09 |
| python476 | heh | 14:09 |
| python476 | while having cocaine to give them enough energy to speak on camera \ | 14:09 |
| python476 | \s | 14:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 13:05 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: UK's Boris Johnson tests positive, mall staple retailers announce massive furloughs — from r/WorldNews at 13:05: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/U4IxHI | 14:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 13:09 UTC: /u/pixelcraftables: Coronavirus: Brusaferro (Iss): "Dal 20 marzo la curva sembra attenuarsi ma non allentiamo le misure" - la Repubblica — from r/WorldNews at 13:09: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/NdaffP | 14:14 |
| aradesh | AimHere, sneep: i tihnk it's just that all these politicians see so many people who travel around the world constantly, it just massively increases their chances of getting infected in general | 14:15 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +1343 cases (now 554465), +127 deaths (now 25103), +1 recoveries (now 128704) 🔸 Netherlands: +1172 cases (now 8603), +112 deaths (now 546) 🔹 Albania: +12 cases (now 186), +2 deaths (now 8), +14 recoveries (now 31) 🔹 Andorra: +43 cases (now 267) 🔹 Argentina: +1 deaths (now 13) 🔹 Armenia: +10 recoveries (now 28) 🔹 Australia: +37 cases (now 3180) [... want %more?] | 14:21 |
| python476 | I need to find videos of people early symptoms | 14:23 |
| AimHere | Boris Johnson's twitter has him talking to camera today, while being only mildly symptomatic | 14:26 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 13:25 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: Boris Johnson and health secretary Matt Hancock test positive for Covid-19 — from r/WorldNews at 13:25: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/OCAQX4 | 14:35 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 13:33 UTC: Coronavirus: Russia reports spike in cases; Hungary imposes national lockdown: Global cases of infection rose above 530,000 and around 24,000 people have died, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. — from r/WorldNews at 13:33: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/NwNiBJ | 14:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 13:37 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: UK's Boris Johnson tests positive, mall staple retailers announce massive furloughs — from r/WorldNews at 13:37: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/U4IxHI | 14:43 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 13:44 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: Spain records highest single-day death toll and withdraws 'inaccurate' testing kits — from r/WorldNews at 13:44: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/bAyvCD | 14:47 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 13:50 UTC: /u/pixelcraftables: La chiusura delle scuole sarà prorogata sicuramente oltre il 3 aprile — from r/WorldNews at 13:50: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/bJnEvO | 14:52 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus* at 13:52 UTC: Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Post - March 27 | Questions, images, videos, comments, unconfirmed reports, theories, suggestions — from r/WorldNews at 13:52: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/Lz4HmA | 14:56 |
| Brainstorm | New from Scientific American at 14:00 UTC: The Nation Paralyzed by a Pathogen, Deep Cleaners Have Their Day: Turning from bedbugs and carpet-eating moths to COVID-19, an industrial cleaner joins the Coronavirus fight -- Read more on ScientificAmerican.com — from r/WorldNews at 14:00: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/w4gyVI | 15:04 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +354 cases (now 554819), +3 deaths (now 25106), +2 recoveries (now 128706) 🔸 Chile: +304 cases (now 1610), +1 deaths (now 5) 🔹 Alabama, US: +7 cases (now 538), +2 deaths (now 3) 🔹 Albania: +12 cases (now 186), +2 deaths (now 8), +14 recoveries (now 31) 🔹 Andorra: +43 cases (now 267) 🔹 Argentina: +1 deaths (now 13) 🔹 Armenia: +10 recoveries (now 28) [... want %more?] | 15:06 |
| pwr22 | UK parliament were still having in person sessions recently | 15:06 |
| pwr22 | So I wouldn't be surprised if loads of our politicians have it now | 15:06 |
| AimHere | Coronavirus would decimate the House of Lords | 15:08 |
| pwr22 | Michael Gove is going to take over the UK briefings 🤯🤦♂️😭 | 15:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 14:08 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: UK's Boris Johnson tests positive, mall staple retailers announce massive furloughs — from r/WorldNews at 14:08: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/U4IxHI | 15:13 |
| python476 | AimHere: a forced cleaning of mediocre political class only replaced by newbies that may care a bit more about actual results would be a bonus (in theory) | 15:14 |
| AimHere | Instead, we've got Pob | 15:15 |
| python476 | Pob ? | 15:20 |
| python476 | Poris Pobson ? | 15:21 |
| AimHere | Michael Gove, the standin for Bojo | 15:22 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 14:14 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: Boris Johnson and health secretary Matt Hancock test positive for Covid-19 — from r/WorldNews at 14:14: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/OCAQX4 | 15:22 |
| astraliam[m] | !cases italy | 15:22 |
| CovBot | In Italy there have been a total of 80,589 cases as of 2020-03-27 13:54:00 UTC. Of these 62,013 (76.9%) are still sick or may have recovered without being recorded, 10,361 (12.9%) have definitely recovered and 8,215 (10.2%) have died. | 15:22 |
| python476 | AimHere: UK Pence | 15:23 |
| python476 | jk | 15:23 |
| python476 | oh TIL a cousin and his wife got COVID-19 | 15:23 |
| python476 | mild cases | 15:23 |
| python476 | so everything's alright | 15:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 14:21 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: UK's Boris Johnson tests positive, mall staple retailers announce massive furloughs — from r/WorldNews at 14:21: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/U4IxHI | 15:26 |
| hirogen | health secretary has it too | 15:26 |
| hirogen | heez | 15:26 |
| python476 | heezus | 15:27 |
| LjL | i am SO sorry from hearing today's news | 15:28 |
| LjL | i say it from the deepest of my heart | 15:28 |
| python476 | which one ? | 15:29 |
| LjL | the one that's only ever sarcastically sorry | 15:29 |
| LjL | kinda sunny today | 15:29 |
| LjL | shall i have a lawbreaking walk | 15:30 |
| LjL | as long as i don't carry my phone with me they shouldn't spot me | 15:30 |
| mefistofeles | whatever judas priest says https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L397TWLwrUU | 15:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 14:27 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: UK's Boris Johnson tests positive, Real ID deadline extended — from r/WorldNews at 14:27: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/U4IxHI | 15:30 |
| LjL | but then, it will be a bit of a trauma to go anywhere without my phone | 15:30 |
| python476 | it's a good trauma | 15:31 |
| LjL | don't act all zen with me i bet you carry two or three at a time | 15:32 |
| LjL | although they may be nokias from 2002 | 15:32 |
| python476 | LjL: first of all, yeah I do have 3 phones at some days (for pictures and pdfs), but I also do leave home without any on purpose at times, just to feel the lack of connection | 15:33 |
| python476 | and its really nice | 15:34 |
| python476 | best to combine this with slightly wild forest hike, the peace is real | 15:34 |
| LjL | if i do that the tinnitus will be real | 15:34 |
| LjL | but i can always carry the walkman | 15:34 |
| LjL | omg the tinnitus will be real even if i walk in milan, i just realized | 15:34 |
| LjL | no cars = eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee | 15:34 |
| guilhermeesq[m] | Should I wait for the price of prostitution to go down before I start using them ? | 15:35 |
| python476 | tinnitus is stronger in silence ? that's the logic ? | 15:35 |
| LjL | guilhermeesq[m], i have a relevant PSA tweet from yesterday | 15:35 |
| python476 | guilhermeesq[m]: eww | 15:35 |
| python476 | you don't use prostitute | 15:35 |
| LjL | python476, it's not logic it's just what happens ;( | 15:36 |
| python476 | you organize them and make profit | 15:36 |
| python476 | #5d | 15:36 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +3191 cases (now 558010), +192 deaths (now 25298), +11 recoveries (now 128717) 🔸 United Kingdom: +2921 cases (now 14579), +181 deaths (now 759) 🔹 Alabama, US: +7 cases (now 538), +2 deaths (now 3) 🔹 Albania: +12 cases (now 186), +2 deaths (now 8), +14 recoveries (now 31) 🔹 Andorra: +43 cases (now 267) 🔹 Argentina: +1 deaths (now 13) [... want %more?] | 15:36 |
| LjL | guilhermeesq[m], https://twitter.com/nycHealthy/status/1242462479134982145 | 15:36 |
| LjL | %cases uk | 15:36 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: In all areas, United Kingdom, there are 14579 cases, 759 deaths (5.2% of cases), 135 recoveries as of March 27, 14:34Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data. | 15:36 |
| python476 | LjL: I mean it was counter intuitive to me for a second, I thought more noise => more tinnitus but I guess it blurs it | 15:36 |
| LjL | python476, some people have what they call "reactive" tinnitus and then it's like you say, which must suck, but generally no, you can cover tinnitus with other noises until/unless it becomes overwhelming | 15:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 14:28 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: death toll rises by 181 to 759, the sharpest increase so far — from r/WorldNews at 14:28: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/OCAQX4 | 15:37 |
| guilhermeesq[m] | LjL: I saw that one already :) | 15:38 |
| LjL | guilhermeesq[m], well then you have your rational answer | 15:38 |
| python476 | LjL aight | 15:39 |
| guilhermeesq[m] | Prostitutes need our income to survive these trying times | 15:39 |
| guilhermeesq[m] | Support your local prostitutes | 15:39 |
| LjL | python476, i have a white noise machine playing 24/7 unless i'm outside (so, now quite definitely 24/7) | 15:39 |
| guilhermeesq[m] | Prostitutes don’t get face masks unless they are super ugly . So there’s a huge shortage for the front line working prostitutes . | 15:41 |
| bin_bash | wow racist what about a black news machine /s | 15:41 |
| python476 | bin_bash: it's called brown noise | 15:42 |
| python476 | noise was inclusive before twitter made it trendy | 15:42 |
| bin_bash | isnt it brownian after a guy | 15:45 |
| LjL | python476, it's short for brownian noise though | 15:46 |
| LjL | that and pink noise are sort of less harsh than white noise | 15:46 |
| LjL | but also less effective at masking the tinnitus | 15:46 |
| bin_bash | hmmm i've actually never tried white noise for tinnitus | 15:47 |
| python476 | LjL my bad then I wasn't sure | 15:47 |
| bin_bash | i usually just play loud music. my hearing's already fucked since i was born | 15:47 |
| python476 | "my hearing's already fucked since i was born" sounds like a metal songtitle | 15:47 |
| LjL | bin_bash, i would recommend things like running water noises, rain noises, etc, over white noise, *if* they are effective | 15:47 |
| bin_bash | it could be haha | 15:47 |
| bin_bash | LjL: i loooove rain noises | 15:47 |
| bin_bash | and thunderstorm noises | 15:47 |
| LjL | there's a paper that says white noise may have not very good effect on your brain long term | 15:47 |
| LjL | so i'm using it all the time but, well, you can see the result | 15:48 |
| bin_bash | honestly i could see that | 15:48 |
| LjL | %fdroid Noice | 15:48 |
| Brainstorm | LjL, Noice 0.3.3 (com.github.ashutoshgngwr.noice) in https://f-droid.org/repo: Relax, improve focus, and boost productivity with minimal background noises - updated 2020-03-26, see https://github.com/ashutoshgngwr/noice | 15:48 |
| LjL | try this guy if you have Android | 15:48 |
| bin_bash | like listening to static all the time | 15:48 |
| python476 | thanks for the link | 15:48 |
| bin_bash | when i lived alone i always listened to instrumental music and/or thunderstorms to fall asleep | 15:48 |
| bin_bash | love that stuff | 15:48 |
| bin_bash | and yeah thanks for that link | 15:48 |
| LjL | and for noises of any shape | 15:48 |
| LjL | %fdroid Chroma Doze | 15:48 |
| Brainstorm | LjL, Chroma Doze 3.7.1 (net.pmarks.chromadoze) in https://f-droid.org/repo: Noise generator - updated 2018-06-20, see https://github.com/pmarks-net/chromadoze | 15:48 |
| LjL | this one is very battery-savvy, Noice not so much | 15:49 |
| LjL | but Noice has all the thunderstorms you want | 15:49 |
| bin_bash | ya i have a thunderstorm app thingy also there are websites and stuff ive used | 15:49 |
| bin_bash | havent done it ina while though | 15:49 |
| bin_bash | (also to clarify i was half kidding about the music thing, i dont intentionally damage my hearing) | 15:50 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +2165 cases (now 560175), +24 deaths (now 25322) 🔸 Germany: +1971 cases (now 49344), +19 deaths (now 304) 🔹 Alabama, US: +7 cases (now 538), +2 deaths (now 3) 🔹 Albania: +12 cases (now 186), +2 deaths (now 8), +14 recoveries (now 31) 🔹 Andorra: +43 cases (now 267) 🔹 Argentina: +1 deaths (now 13) 🔹 Armenia: +10 recoveries (now 28) [... want %more?] | 15:51 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 14:43 UTC: Markets resume slide; Chinese factory profits slump - business live: Rolling coverage of the latest economic and financial news, as China’s manufacturing sector and UK car makers are hit by the coronavirus — from r/WorldNews at 14:43: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/O9CFQm | 15:54 |
| LjL | yay we got a groceries delivery | 15:57 |
| python476 | enjoy nutrition | 16:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 14:58 UTC: /u/slakmehl: Scott Gottlieb, MD su Twitter: "I’m worried about emerging situations in New Orleans, Dallas, Atlanta, Miami, Detroit, Chicago, Philadelphia, among others. In China no province outside Hubei ever had more than 1,500 cases. In U.S. 11 states already hit that total. Our epidemic is likely to be [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/CTPWAO | 16:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 15:01 UTC: /u/slakmehl: Pre-print of an analysis from the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington forecasts 2300 Covid deaths per day in the United States by the second week of April. — from r/WorldNews at 15:01: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/wx0gbF | 16:07 |
| pwr22 | I've had tinnitus for a long time myself, since I was a kid, mindful acceptance of it is the best way of dealing with it I've found | 16:18 |
| pwr22 | I'm not bothered by it anymore and because of that I rarely notice it | 16:18 |
| pwr22 | And when I do... I'm not bothered | 16:18 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 15:17 UTC: /u/slakmehl: UK health minister has also tested positive. — from r/WorldNews at 15:17: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/Wrqvj7 | 16:19 |
| LjL | pwr22, mindful anything is something i struggle with accepting | 16:20 |
| iz | see also: https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1243496858095411200 | 16:20 |
| LjL | which is an issue when mindfulness is about acceptance | 16:20 |
| LjL | apparently | 16:20 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +804 cases (now 560979), +17 deaths (now 25339), +60 recoveries (now 128777) 🔸 US: +642 cases (now 86548), +14 deaths (now 1321), +21 recoveries (now 1889) 🔸 Indiana, US: +336 cases (now 981), +7 deaths (now 24) 🔹 Alabama, US: +7 cases (now 538), +2 deaths (now 3) 🔹 Albania: +12 cases (now 186), +2 deaths (now 8), +14 recoveries (now 31) [... want %more?] | 16:21 |
| LjL | python476, no need for nutrition, i've also managed to secure a multivitamin that has everything and probably too much of it | 16:23 |
| LjL | so i can just eat hazelnut spread instead | 16:23 |
| LjL | by the spoonful | 16:23 |
| python476 | and spinach | 16:25 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 15:19 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: UK's Boris Johnson tests positive, Real ID deadline extended — from r/WorldNews at 15:19: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/U4IxHI | 16:26 |
| LjL | what am i popeye | 16:27 |
| mefistofeles | lol | 16:27 |
| python476 | I don't want to scare people | 16:28 |
| python476 | but 20+20 = 40 | 16:28 |
| Jigsy | Hah. | 16:28 |
| mefistofeles | gtfo! | 16:28 |
| python476 | JUST SAYIN | 16:28 |
| python476 | well, I'm out (to take trash) | 16:29 |
| python476 | (that includes me apparently 8) | 16:29 |
| mefistofeles | II should go out for a walk | 16:29 |
| mefistofeles | veen seeing tons of people in the streets today, fwiw | 16:29 |
| mefistofeles | *been | 16:29 |
| LjL | python476, so cryptic | 16:30 |
| LjL | mefistofeles, maybe i'll try that, see how jailed i get | 16:30 |
| oxalis | https://guardian.ng/life/police-break-up-orgy-during-coronavirus-lockdown-in-spain/ | 16:30 |
| danielp3344 | I might venture into the world for the first time in two weeks today | 16:30 |
| danielp3344 | Need to pick up some engine parts | 16:30 |
| LjL | lol | 16:30 |
| danielp3344 | the auto parts place has curbside pickup though | 16:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 15:26 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Lack of internet leaves millions cut off, Real ID deadline extended — from r/WorldNews at 15:26: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/U4IxHI | 16:32 |
| LjL | lack of internet! | 16:34 |
| LjL | where what | 16:34 |
| jacklsw | sleep is the best | 16:34 |
| LjL | oh just existing lack of internet | 16:35 |
| LjL | i wonder if that is an accurate map of poverty in the US | 16:35 |
| jacklsw | lack of internet, back then we survived with IRC and now as well :D | 16:35 |
| LjL | https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/16/who-considers-airborne-precautions-for-medical-staff-after-study-shows-coronavirus-can-survive-in-air.html | 16:36 |
| LjL | was about fucking time? | 16:36 |
| LjL | the WHO seems good at jeopardizing people's lives by reassuring them of things that aren't true | 16:36 |
| LjL | only to change their minds later without even feeling bad about it | 16:37 |
| jacklsw | seems like WHO and CDC are just like described in disease movies | 16:37 |
| jacklsw | incompetent | 16:37 |
| LjL | and also | 16:37 |
| LjL | Robert Redfield, director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, told Congress last month that the agency was aggressively evaluating how long COVID-19 can survive, particularly on surfaces. | 16:37 |
| LjL | “On copper and steel, it’s pretty typical, it’s pretty much about two hours,” Redfield said at a House hearing. “But I will say on other surfaces — cardboard or plastic — it’s longer, and so we are looking at this.” | 16:37 |
| LjL | Spec, ↑ | 16:37 |
| LjL | > We have a simple message for all countries: test, test, test. | 16:38 |
| LjL | at least they haven't changed this one | 16:38 |
| pwr22 | who are totally useless bureacrats | 16:38 |
| yuriwho | China should have had the basic characteristics of the virus figured out | 16:38 |
| bin_bash | cardboard is ~24hrs based on what some stufies have shown | 16:48 |
| bin_bash | plastic is ~3-17 days | 16:48 |
| bin_bash | princess cruises are notoriously horrific so it doesnt surprise me that the virus has survived for 17 days on their surfaces | 16:49 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +248 cases (now 561227), +82 deaths (now 25421), +4 recoveries (now 128781) 🔹 Alabama, US: +7 cases (now 538), +2 deaths (now 3) 🔹 Albania: +12 cases (now 186), +2 deaths (now 8), +14 recoveries (now 31) 🔹 Andorra: +43 cases (now 267) 🔹 Argentina: +1 deaths (now 13) 🔹 Armenia: +10 recoveries (now 28) 🔹 Australia: +37 cases (now 3180) [... want %more?] | 16:51 |
| sneep | LjL: How does the groceries delivery work? Is it just from a regular supermarket that also has a website and does deliveries? | 16:52 |
| LjL | sneep, yeah | 16:52 |
| LjL | the way it works right now is that it mostly doesn't | 16:52 |
| sneep | Is there a long wait time? | 16:52 |
| LjL | it's delivery lottery | 16:52 |
| LjL | yeah | 16:52 |
| IronY | LjL: what happened to Brainstorms link completion ? | 16:52 |
| LjL | IronY, link completion? | 16:53 |
| IronY | LjL: It used to also do the whole past it a link it scrapes the tile / meta data no? | 16:53 |
| LjL | sneep, it lets you pick a delivery slot within the next 15 days, but they're all full, so you have to wait until midnight and then the site won't be working because everyone is doing it at the same time, and if you get lucky, by 1am you get it to work AND still find a free slot | 16:53 |
| LjL | IronY, only manually with %title | 16:53 |
| IronY | ahh kk, thanks | 16:53 |
| sneep | Damn | 16:54 |
| sneep | What about Amazon Fresh/Pantry etc.? | 16:54 |
| bin_bash | it depends on where you live really | 16:54 |
| LjL | sneep, Pantry doesn't have much, but we ordered some things from it too. but i think they're no longer really doing Pantry... Amazon is basically everything "out of stock" now, they are freeing their warehouses for "essential" goods, but apparently food mostly doesn't count | 16:54 |
| IronY | I am still getting 48 hour amazon deliveries on most things | 16:54 |
| IronY | used to be within 24 hour ever | 16:55 |
| LjL | and we don't have Fresh | 16:55 |
| IronY | (canada, Ontario) | 16:55 |
| sneep | AmazonFresh Areas served: United States, Berlin (including Potsdam), Hamburg, London, Munich, and Tokyo oh... | 16:55 |
| LjL | i've just had a "non-essential" Amazon package lost, first time it happens | 16:55 |
| IronY | we do not have amazon fresh though | 16:55 |
| LjL | but other things have still come in 24h | 16:55 |
| LjL | but most Prime things are no longer 1 day or even 3 day | 16:55 |
| bin_bash | i ordered some string lights and they came within 2 days as usual | 16:55 |
| LjL | the Prime logo has disappeared from almost everything | 16:55 |
| IronY | yeah my prime logo is there but my next day prime logo is gone | 16:56 |
| IronY | I suspect the former to vanish soon | 16:56 |
| bin_bash | mine is still there | 16:56 |
| sneep | LjL: Are you able to buy from neighboring countries' Amazon Pantry? | 16:56 |
| bin_bash | i dont see one-day either though | 16:57 |
| LjL | sneep, never tried, but probably not... | 16:57 |
| bin_bash | [✔] prime | 16:57 |
| bin_bash | FREE Delivery Sun, Mar 29 | 16:57 |
| LjL | sneep, also, while EU deliveries are usually just the same as local, i suspect it's not that way now | 16:57 |
| bin_bash | sneep: are you in the US | 16:57 |
| sneep | bin_bash: Tokyo | 16:57 |
| LjL | sneep, someone wanted to buy a lens with Prime on .co.uk but complained it said it would take a month to delivery. i looked at it, and for me it said "april 3" - even "april 2" if i looked at the same item on .it, so, presumably, the item is stocked in an italian warehouse | 16:58 |
| bin_bash | ah | 16:58 |
| danielp3344 | it gets old | 16:58 |
| bin_bash | yeah it's definitely different outside of the US | 16:58 |
| LjL | sneep, usually Amazon doesn't care which EU warehouse things come from, they just get there quickly. in normal times | 16:58 |
| bin_bash | in the US amazon delivers whole foods | 16:58 |
| danielp3344 | <jacklsw "lack of internet, back then we s"> I've been living on about 100kbps for the past few weeks lol | 16:58 |
| IronY | Prime for me is dangerous now | 17:02 |
| LjL | https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/fpv76t/boris_johnson_has_tested_positive_for_coronavirus/flncxan/ | 17:02 |
| IronY | we have two carriers in this city, Our official postal service and a sub contractor | 17:02 |
| aradesh | uk fatalities gone up by 181 today | 17:02 |
| IronY | our local postal service likes to not deliver to your door | 17:02 |
| Biep[m] | <adventurer "Question for someone who knows a"> Try `!risk`. | 17:02 |
| LjL | aradesh, and new cases gone up by too much | 17:02 |
| Biep[m] | !risk 25 | 17:02 |
| IronY | the pickup location is a pharmacy that has lots of people in it | 17:02 |
| CovBot | I estimate a 25 year old patient sick with COVID-19 has a 100.0% chance of survival, a 8.4% likelihood of needing to go to hospital, a 1.2% risk of needing intensive care there and a 0.0% chance of death. | 17:03 |
| LjL | that seems a bit too 100% | 17:03 |
| IronY | so when I order from amazon there is a 50/50 chance that it is more dangerous then my normal local pickup reoutines | 17:03 |
| danielp3344 | !risk 17 | 17:03 |
| CovBot | I estimate a 17 year old patient sick with COVID-19 has a 100.0% chance of survival, a 3.4% likelihood of needing to go to hospital, a 0.0% risk of needing intensive care there and a 0.0% chance of death. | 17:03 |
| IronY | thankfully I have been having other people fetch my shit | 17:03 |
| LjL | pretty sure people below 25 have died | 17:03 |
| iz | !risk 45 | 17:03 |
| CovBot | I estimate a 45 year old patient sick with COVID-19 has a 99.4% chance of survival, a 21.0% likelihood of needing to go to hospital, a 6.7% risk of needing intensive care there and a 0.6% chance of death. | 17:03 |
| sneep | !risk 31 | 17:03 |
| MinceR | !risk 37 | 17:03 |
| danielp3344 | LjL: rounding :P | 17:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 16:00 UTC: /u/pixelcraftables: La Conferenza stampa delle protezione civile oggi è alle 17:30 — from r/WorldNews at 16:00: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/MXmclM | 17:03 |
| IronY | before we flood the bot | 17:03 |
| LjL | okay let's not spam the channel with this though | 17:03 |
| CovBot | I estimate a 31 year old patient sick with COVID-19 has a 99.8% chance of survival, a 12.2% likelihood of needing to go to hospital, a 2.8% risk of needing intensive care there and a 0.2% chance of death. | 17:03 |
| CovBot | I estimate a 37 year old patient sick with COVID-19 has a 99.7% chance of survival, a 15.9% likelihood of needing to go to hospital, a 4.5% risk of needing intensive care there and a 0.3% chance of death. | 17:03 |
| IronY | is the risks in ranges | 17:03 |
| danielp3344 | or floating point errors | 17:03 |
| IronY | oh nope there it goes | 17:04 |
| IronY | difference between 31-37 | 17:04 |
| pwr22 | <LjL "pretty sure people below 25 have"> People don't seem to understand models | 17:04 |
| sneep | Dammit not 100% for me | 17:04 |
| iz | my mantisa! | 17:04 |
| IronY | %risk 35 | 17:04 |
| danielp3344 | !risk 80 | 17:04 |
| CovBot | I estimate a 80 year old patient sick with COVID-19 has a 92.1% chance of survival, a 43.0% likelihood of needing to go to hospital, a 16.4% risk of needing intensive care there and a 7.9% chance of death. | 17:04 |
| IronY | !risk 35 | 17:04 |
| LjL | stop! | 17:04 |
| pwr22 | I wonder what happens if I put the thing to 4 decimal places | 17:04 |
| CovBot | I estimate a 35 year old patient sick with COVID-19 has a 99.7% chance of survival, a 14.7% likelihood of needing to go to hospital, a 3.9% risk of needing intensive care there and a 0.3% chance of death. | 17:04 |
| danielp3344 | LjL: lol | 17:04 |
| IronY | bot just told me I am probably not going to die | 17:05 |
| IronY | anxiety over | 17:05 |
| danielp3344 | for x in range (1,100).... | 17:05 |
| IronY | thanks bot | 17:05 |
| spybert | !risk 39 | 17:05 |
| danielp3344 | ^ | 17:05 |
| CovBot | I estimate a 39 year old patient sick with COVID-19 has a 99.6% chance of survival, a 17.2% likelihood of needing to go to hospital, a 5.0% risk of needing intensive care there and a 0.4% chance of death. | 17:05 |
| pwr22 | Better to take this to direct messages for the sake of LjL's sanity | 17:05 |
| spybert | oh, the bot doesn't take sex into account | 17:05 |
| danielp3344 | pwr22: I couldn't get it to work in a DM | 17:06 |
| danielp3344 | I tried | 17:06 |
| IronY | spybert: Or about a billion other variables :P | 17:06 |
| danielp3344 | !cases MD | 17:06 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +5693 cases (now 566920), +50 deaths (now 25471), +528 recoveries (now 129309) 🔸 US: +5658 cases (now 92206), +50 deaths (now 1371), +528 recoveries (now 2417) 🔸 New York, US: +5658 cases (now 44635), +50 deaths (now 519) 🔹 Alabama, US: +7 cases (now 538), +2 deaths (now 3) 🔹 Albania: +12 cases (now 186), +2 deaths (now 8), +14 recoveries (now 31) [... want %more?] | 17:06 |
| CovBot | In Camden, United Kingdom there have been a total of 85 cases as of 2020-03-27 16:01:40 UTC. | 17:06 |
| sneep | What do they do at hospitals when you don't need intensive care? | 17:06 |
| danielp3344 | !cases maryland | 17:06 |
| spybert | IronY: The ladies have a much better chance of making it | 17:06 |
| danielp3344 | sneep: IVs | 17:06 |
| CovBot | In Maryland, United States there have been a total of 774 cases as of 2020-03-27 15:41:00 UTC. Of these 769 (99.4%) are still sick or may have recovered without being recorded, 0 (0.0%) have definitely recovered and 5 (0.6%) have died. | 17:06 |
| Painter | What do you estimate for people who are already sick before covid? | 17:06 |
| pwr22 | Daniel Peterson: I wonder why, pretty sure it works for me from a DM on IRC | 17:07 |
| IronY | spybert: that actually seems regional at this point | 17:07 |
| MinceR | how does IV help? | 17:07 |
| danielp3344 | As I understand the biggest danger is being unable to drink anything | 17:07 |
| danielp3344 | like the flu | 17:07 |
| IronY | danielp3344: a message to a channel versus a message to a user is the same irc verb | 17:07 |
| pwr22 | I just did `/msg CovBot !risk 30` and it works fine | 17:07 |
| danielp3344 | IronY: I'll try IRC | 17:07 |
| pwr22 | LjL: does it work for you? | 17:08 |
| LjL | sneep, danielp3344: i haven't heard of that, but IV nutrition is probably something that gets done for many things. but a more obvious thing is oxygen (don't need to be in ICU to receive oxygen) | 17:08 |
| pwr22 | Daniel Peterson: it should definitely work on IRC as well | 17:08 |
| IronY | no no I mean like, your fields are probably, to from text, respond to the from, not the to | 17:08 |
| LjL | pwr22, no | 17:08 |
| pwr22 | Are you sure it joined the room before you messaged it? | 17:08 |
| LjL | pwr22, no idea, i did it from IRC | 17:09 |
| LjL | oh it replied now | 17:09 |
| LjL | took a good... | 17:09 |
| LjL | about one minute | 17:09 |
| python476 | I was curious if people using CBD would shield from heavy covid inflammation | 17:09 |
| Biep[m] | <LjL "pretty sure people below 25 have"> Yes, but less than 0.05% of them - so that is rounded down to 0%. | 17:10 |
| sneep | 01:09 <sneep> !risk 68 01:09 * CovBot sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/DRuUwPjtKoEjmQCyfKAblCwe > | 17:10 |
| IronY | python476: if pot was the answer people would be outside signing it from the mountains | 17:10 |
| LjL | i'd go second decimal on this | 17:10 |
| pwr22 | <LjL "about one minute"> That's probably the matrix.org bridge lagging | 17:10 |
| pwr22 | It'd need to create a new room, set up bridging etc | 17:10 |
| LjL | pwr22, lagging bad :( | 17:10 |
| pwr22 | <LjL "i'd go second decimal on this"> Good idea | 17:10 |
| sneep | it replied after lagging quite a bit but it didn't give me the expected output | 17:10 |
| LjL | test | 17:12 |
| LjL-Matrix | test | 17:12 |
| pwr22 | <sneep "it replied after lagging quite a"> That's correct behaviour of the bridge I think - matrix doesn't have message size limits like IRC | 17:12 |
| pwr22 | Or at least it has very large ones | 17:12 |
| pwr22 | test | 17:12 |
| pwr22 | :P | 17:12 |
| LjL | i typed those tests at almost the same time. saw them at almost the same time | 17:12 |
| LjL | in both places | 17:13 |
| pwr22 | They both go through matrix.org | 17:13 |
| LjL | but then now the bot also answered fast | 17:13 |
| pwr22 | So I'm not surprised | 17:13 |
| sneep | but it's giving me help output instead of risk information | 17:13 |
| python476 | IronY: not pot per se, non psychoactive non burnt cannabinoids | 17:13 |
| sneep | hmm, it works now | 17:14 |
| pwr22 | <sneep "but it's giving me help output i"> Oh that's very weird, the dispatching of commands is handled at the maubot level and it seems fairly reliable | 17:14 |
| LjL | sneep, sure you haven't typed some weird character like a space too much or something japanesey? :P | 17:14 |
| python476 | all in all, every bit of help can make a difference between coma and walk | 17:14 |
| pwr22 | Oh sneep, that's the message it sends when you first chat to it | 17:14 |
| IronY | python476: It is pot man, if CBD was the cure canada would be laughing | 17:14 |
| pwr22 | Or rather from matrix's perspective, when it joins your room | 17:15 |
| LjL | IronY, there *was* a surge in cannabis demand i heard | 17:15 |
| MinceR | seems to me matrix turns multiple lines of short messages into a single "long message" way too eagerly | 17:15 |
| IronY | LjL: Oh hell yeah there was lol | 17:15 |
| sneep | ah, i see | 17:15 |
| python476 | IronY: I meant to not suggest people to smoke even more joint | 17:15 |
| IronY | python476: Fair enough! | 17:15 |
| IronY | We actually did this, sec, this pisses me off | 17:15 |
| pwr22 | I suppose it's possible that due to how the bridge works your first message goes into a black hole and doesn't get handled by the bot properly | 17:15 |
| LjL | MinceR, yeah, not matrix.org itself though, but the bridge. it's managed by other people afaik | 17:15 |
| python476 | just to get some sublingual cbd oil and enjoy the controlled inflammation | 17:15 |
| IronY | https://ottawasun.com/news/local-news/police-in-outaouais-ottawa-montreal-seize-cannabis-products-in-string-of-raids/wcm/eb5b971a-f74e-48e6-a33d-d7b0d275250a | 17:16 |
| IronY | pots legal in canada | 17:16 |
| LjL | python476, can i just keep a chilli pepper under my tongue instead | 17:16 |
| IronY | there is no reason to fucking put resources into busting non legalized pot | 17:16 |
| IronY | at this point in my reality | 17:16 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 16:13 UTC: (news): New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo extends school closures as statewide coronavirus deaths cross 500 — from r/WorldNews at 16:13: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/pKdLiU | 17:16 |
| LjL | oh yeah Cuomo was talking earlier, forgot to tell | 17:16 |
| LjL | also to watch | 17:16 |
| LjL | also today's civil protection thing is going to be at 17:30 instead of 18:00 for some reason | 17:17 |
| LjL | but also i'm tired of transcribing them, they just spout nonsense lately | 17:17 |
| sneep | i got two weeks off due to sars when i was a kid | 17:17 |
| pwr22 | <LjL "MinceR, yeah, not matrix.org its"> The IRC bridge is officially maintained by them, so it is basically the same | 17:17 |
| LjL | yesterday's one was ridiculous, but i'm not even sure *how* ridiculous because their stream kept dying | 17:17 |
| pwr22 | I'll take a look at it some time and see if there something I can improve in there | 17:17 |
| LjL | pwr22, oh okay, it used not to be, i guess they took it over | 17:18 |
| pwr22 | Yep | 17:18 |
| python476 | LjL you can, the geometry fits | 17:18 |
| LjL | python476, that's not what i was asking but okay | 17:18 |
| LjL | since according to the nyc health department i can't kiss, i'll kiss pepper instead | 17:18 |
| python476 | <ironmanpun> | 17:19 |
| Birrosso | %cases us | 17:19 |
| Brainstorm | Birrosso: In all areas, US, there are 92206 cases, 1371 deaths (1.5% of cases), 2417 recoveries as of March 27, 15:56Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 17:19 |
| LjL | Birrosso, yeah they #1 | 17:19 |
| python476 | %toys'r us | 17:21 |
| sneep | o-o | 17:21 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +1378 cases (now 568298), +20 deaths (now 25491), +48 recoveries (now 129357) 🔸 US: +945 cases (now 93151), +11 deaths (now 1382), +4 recoveries (now 2421) 🔸 Georgia: +358 cases (now 2001), +8 deaths (now 64) 🔸 Florida, US: +416 cases (now 2900) 🔹 Alabama, US: +7 cases (now 538), +2 deaths (now 3) [... want %more?] | 17:21 |
| sneep | o-o o-o | 17:21 |
| LjL | they keep churnin' em out | 17:21 |
| LjL | this time which georgia is it | 17:21 |
| LjL | %cases georgia | 17:21 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: In all areas, Georgia, there are 2001 cases, 64 deaths (3.2% of cases), 13 recoveries as of March 27, 16:17Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Georgia for time series data. | 17:21 |
| LjL | %cases georgia (us) | 17:22 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: Sorry, georgia (us) not found. Either there aren't cases, or it's under a different name. | 17:22 |
| LjL | well, guess the country since the states don't work | 17:22 |
| LjL | %cases new york | 17:22 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: In New York, US, there are 44635 cases, 519 deaths (1.2% of cases), 0 recoveries as of March 27, 16:17Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 17:22 |
| LjL | uh... or rather, they don't work on the website | 17:22 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 16:19 UTC: Apple announces COVID-19 website and app in partnership with CDC and the White House: Apple has developed a new website and app that will provide a screening tool for COVID-19 symptoms as well as up-to-date information from trusted sources about the coronavirus outbreak. [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/eoEJAu | 17:22 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, what happened to the states? i know JHU got rid of them, but i get them in the csv, yet they're not on the site | 17:23 |
| LjL | Today the Italian civil protection press conference with new figures etc will be at 17:30 CET (in a few minutes) instead of 18. I won't transcribe it because I'm sick of their bullshit, but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItRY6i6eMg8 | 17:28 |
| LjL | i'll write down the numbers and mention anything worthwhile they say | 17:28 |
| LjL | +589, total 10950 | 17:34 |
| LjL | +969 dead, 50 of which come from yesterday due to a mistake | 17:34 |
| LjL | +66414 currently positive, 6% in ICU | 17:34 |
| LjL | obviously i missed the new cases | 17:35 |
| LjL | as of today, 75 patients have been moved from lombardy to other regions | 17:35 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +309 cases (now 568607), +5 deaths (now 25496), +3 recoveries (now 129360) 🔹 Alabama, US: +7 cases (now 538), +2 deaths (now 3) 🔹 Albania: +12 cases (now 186), +2 deaths (now 8), +14 recoveries (now 31) 🔹 Algeria: +42 cases (now 409), +1 deaths (now 26) 🔹 Andorra: +43 cases (now 267) 🔹 Argentina: +1 deaths (now 13) 🔹 Armenia: +10 recoveries (now 28) [... want %more?] | 17:36 |
| LjL | wow he actually didn't give the number of new cases | 17:36 |
| LjL | just the total | 17:36 |
| LjL | it wasn't me missing it | 17:36 |
| LjL | ISS says "close to the peak but not there yet" | 17:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 16:36 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Lack of internet leaves millions cut off and $2 trillion rescue bill faces delay — from r/WorldNews at 16:36: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/U4IxHI | 17:41 |
| LjL | %cases italy | 17:42 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: In all areas, Italy, there are 80589 cases, 8215 deaths (10.2% of cases), 10361 recoveries as of March 27, 16:32Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Italy for time series data. | 17:42 |
| pwr22 | !compare it;uk | 17:43 |
| LjL | i think this is still the old number though | 17:43 |
| LjL | it says updated recently, but there wasn't an update | 17:43 |
| sneep | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HLrm0pqBN_5bdyysOeoOBX4pt4oFDBhsC_jpblXpNtQ/preview Lots of links to studies and some news articles about the efficacy of masks | 17:43 |
| LjL | the new deaths number is horrible | 17:43 |
| LjL | %tell peepe https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HLrm0pqBN_5bdyysOeoOBX4pt4oFDBhsC_jpblXpNtQ/preview masks | 17:44 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: I don't know peepe. Please try again without them. | 17:44 |
| LjL | %tell pepee https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HLrm0pqBN_5bdyysOeoOBX4pt4oFDBhsC_jpblXpNtQ/preview masks | 17:44 |
| Brainstorm | LjL, I'll pass pepee your message when they are around. | 17:44 |
| LjL | the HUGE NEWS he's announcing is that starting tomorrow they'll be delivering PPEs not just from trucks but also helicopters. | 17:47 |
| pwr22 | Does that mean they're just going to drop them from the sky? | 17:48 |
| LjL | +136 ICU equipment delivered today | 17:48 |
| pwr22 | Like Call of Duty care packages? | 17:48 |
| LjL | pwr22, well he did say he was making it all more efficient | 17:48 |
| LjL | so maybe | 17:48 |
| LjL | 5343 ICU existed in italy before the emergency, now 8984 | 17:49 |
| sneep | 6% in ICU is 3985 people, 8984-5343=3641 | 17:50 |
| blkshp | %cases lanzarote | 17:50 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +6387 cases (now 574994), +921 deaths (now 26417), +589 recoveries (now 129949) 🔸 South Africa: +243 cases (now 1170) 🔸 Italy: +5909 cases (now 86498), +919 deaths (now 9134), +589 recoveries (now 10950) 🔹 Alabama, US: +36 cases (now 567), +2 deaths (now 3) 🔹 Albania: +12 cases (now 186), +2 deaths (now 8), +14 recoveries (now 31) [... want %more?] | 17:50 |
| Brainstorm | blkshp: Sorry, lanzarote not found. Either there aren't cases, or it's under a different name. | 17:50 |
| LjL | sneep, doesn't quite add up | 17:50 |
| LjL | but | 17:50 |
| LjL | i suspect many regions have free ICU beds | 17:50 |
| LjL | and it's just lombardy exploding | 17:50 |
| LjL | they've moved less than 80 people total from lombardy | 17:51 |
| LjL | which is ridiculous | 17:51 |
| LjL | may as well just not be one country | 17:51 |
| sneep | Hmm, I guess moving ICU patients is quite difficult though | 17:52 |
| LjL | sneep, yeah probably but at the same time, last time Borrelli was still well enough to speak, he repeated like a hundred time how important "regional solidarity" was | 17:52 |
| LjL | the subtext was obviously that there was not nearly enough of it | 17:52 |
| bury | %cases indiana | 17:53 |
| Brainstorm | bury: In Indiana, US, there are 981 cases, 24 deaths (2.4% of cases), 0 recoveries as of March 27, 16:49Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 17:53 |
| IronY | 24 is not 2.4% of 981 | 17:55 |
| IronY | ;) | 17:55 |
| sneep | no? | 17:55 |
| oriba | Are all US states in lockdown? Or is it a mixed situation there? | 17:56 |
| farn | oriba: https://www.businessinsider.com/us-map-stay-at-home-orders-lockdowns-2020-3?r=DE&IR=T | 17:57 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 16:57 UTC: /u/pixelcraftables: PCM-DPC dati forniti dal Ministero della Salute AGGIORNAMENTO 27/03/2020 ORE 17.00 POSITIVI AL nCoV Totale | DIMESSI/ attualmente | GUARITI positivi Lombardia 11137 1292 11466 23895 95.860 EmiliaRomagna | 3461 308, 5592 9361 47.798 Veneto 1536 338, 4774 6648 83.627 Piemonte 2852 434, 3064 6347 [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/YcDA0W | 18:00 |
| danielp3344 | https://loadingartist.com/comic/saving-the-world/ | 18:04 |
| oriba | farn: thanks | 18:04 |
| LjL | %title https://twitter.com/BrainstormBot/status/1243584792240828416 | 18:05 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: From twitter.com: Brainstorm su Twitter: "Bye @EUCouncil, @EU_Commission, @Europarl_EN and everyone else, I was a huge EU supporter for many years, got colder over time, and now... really, you're just useless. Borders [...] | 18:05 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +2074 cases (now 577068), +19 deaths (now 26436), +16 recoveries (now 129965) 🔸 Turkey: +2069 cases (now 5698), +17 deaths (now 92), +16 recoveries (now 42) 🔸 Veneto, Italy: +562 cases (now 7497), +26 deaths (now 313), +28 recoveries (now 536) 🔸 Toscana, Italy: +224 cases (now 3450), +19 deaths (now 177), +8 recoveries (now 103) [... want %more?] | 18:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 17:04 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Lack of internet leaves millions cut off and $2 trillion rescue bill faces delay — from r/WorldNews at 17:04: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/U4IxHI | 18:06 |
| aradesh | no briefing from boris today. got the 'minister of the cabinet office' instead | 18:11 |
| aradesh | who will be doing them from now | 18:11 |
| LjL | aradesh, boris is positive | 18:12 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 17:09 UTC: WHO officials enroll first patients from Norway and Spain in 'historic' coronavirus drug trial: The first patients in a "historic" drug trial to test treatments for the coronavirus have been enrolled in Norway and Spain, World Health Organization officials announced Friday. [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/li9pnR | 18:13 |
| aradesh | yeah | 18:14 |
| aradesh | they hope to double how many tests we're doing by this time next week | 18:15 |
| aradesh | but... our doubling rate is less than a week! | 18:15 |
| aradesh | that'll mean we're testing even fewer people than we need to then than now xD | 18:15 |
| pwr22 | LjL: I didn't realise Brainstorm had political views 😁 | 18:15 |
| LjL | pwr22, he has many strong opinions | 18:16 |
| aradesh | italy seems to be continuing its linear regime | 18:18 |
| pwr22 | I need to go to the shops later | 18:18 |
| aradesh | uk's still looks very exponential :\ | 18:18 |
| pwr22 | Probably won't be fun | 18:18 |
| LjL | aradesh, not in terms of deaths for sure | 18:18 |
| pwr22 | We're racing to catch up with Italy | 18:19 |
| pwr22 | but I think Trumps got us beat | 18:19 |
| pwr22 | after all he did say they had the best response to the virus | 18:19 |
| python476 | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22702941 | 18:19 |
| pwr22 | What he meant was he'd get the best numbers, the biggest numbers, it's gonna be great | 18:19 |
| Bluebird | This is a very sad race | 18:19 |
| python476 | D, L-lysine acetylsalicylate and glycine Impairs Coronavirus Replication (2016) [pdf] (longdom.org) | 18:19 |
| python476 | Bluebird: yololympics | 18:19 |
| pwr22 | !compare us;uk;it;de | 18:20 |
| hirogen | italy deaths almost 1000 in 1 day! | 18:20 |
| pwr22 | <python476 "D, L-lysine acetylsalicylate and"> in vitro | 18:20 |
| Bluebird | Here we're number 16 on the Top20. :( | 18:21 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +228 cases (now 577296), +2 deaths (now 26438), +5 recoveries (now 129970) 🔸 Austria: +217 cases (now 7610) 🔹 Alabama, US: +40 cases (now 571), +2 deaths (now 3) 🔹 Albania: +12 cases (now 186), +2 deaths (now 8), +14 recoveries (now 31) 🔹 Algeria: +42 cases (now 409), +1 deaths (now 26) 🔹 Andorra: +43 cases (now 267) 🔹 Argentina: +1 deaths (now 13) [... want %more?] | 18:21 |
| LjL | i did it already, but i would like to point out again just what the EU is doing, WHILE rejecting our aid requests | 18:21 |
| LjL | https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=it&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.punto-informatico.it%2Fcovid-19-operatori-tracciano-movimenti%2F | 18:21 |
| LjL | should show their priorities | 18:21 |
| pwr22 | LjL: do you think the coronavirus crisis will have a lasting impact on the EU? | 18:23 |
| pwr22 | LIke in terms of the political side of it I mean | 18:23 |
| LjL | i think so | 18:23 |
| LjL | at the very least, internal borders will stay closed de facto for a long time | 18:24 |
| LjL | although most of them were not really "open" already | 18:24 |
| aradesh | LjL: what do you mean by, "not in terms of deaths" ? | 18:24 |
| LjL | aradesh, i mean that we've had by far the most deaths in one day today | 18:24 |
| LjL | aradesh, so the deaths curve is quite exponential | 18:24 |
| pwr22 | At least the brexit voters got their closed borders over here | 18:24 |
| aradesh | LjL: but it looks linear | 18:24 |
| LjL | or, going back to exponential | 18:24 |
| python476 | pwr22: the EU response was not EUropean.. | 18:24 |
| LjL | aradesh, site isn't showing today's update yet | 18:25 |
| pwr22 | So they'll be happy | 18:25 |
| python476 | it's becoming more of a vestigial concept | 18:25 |
| aradesh | LjL: oh... | 18:25 |
| aradesh | LjL: how many did you have today? :/ | 18:25 |
| LjL | 909 | 18:25 |
| AimHere | 919 | 18:25 |
| LjL | or somesuch, they said 50 of them are from yesterday, so i also have a 969 number or something like that | 18:25 |
| aradesh | hopefully it's a coincidental blip and wil go back down a bit again | 18:25 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 17:23 UTC: /u/slakmehl: Alyson Shontell su Twitter: "Holy crap. This is a huge deal. This cruise, with nearly 2,000 on board, was supposed to end on Saturday. No one will let it come to port. It’s been drifting at sea and now 4 people are dead, with 144 sick, @ainecain reports… https://t.co/VrTmEFuYAn" [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/pbOD8c | 18:25 |
| LjL | also, as a journalist pointed out, there are very worrying increases in regions that were previously "under control" | 18:26 |
| LjL | and milan is going up less than yesterday but looks also not very under control | 18:26 |
| LjL | i like how little milan has been mentioned by the media/authorities from the very start | 18:26 |
| LjL | lombardy, sure | 18:26 |
| LjL | milan being the capital of lombardy, oh right we forgot that part | 18:26 |
| LjL | https://lab24.ilsole24ore.com/coronavirus/ has detailed italy numbers | 18:27 |
| LjL | who the hell cares about the saudi king | 18:27 |
| AimHere | Is he Covid positive? | 18:28 |
| LjL | not afaik | 18:28 |
| AimHere | Then I don't care | 18:29 |
| LjL | the rss feeds just keeps posting about Conte having meaningless phone calls with other heads of state | 18:29 |
| LjL | i wonder what's even the point | 18:29 |
| LjL | they don't say anything except "expressing solidarity" | 18:29 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 17:29 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Google offers small biz support, lack of internet leaves millions cut off — from r/WorldNews at 17:29: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/U4IxHI | 18:32 |
| aradesh | putting on my conspiracy hat, i thought boris seemed bizarrely healthy during his little video about being positive. i wonder if he recorded that video a while ago, in case he got ill | 18:35 |
| ubLIX | you can have a fever without anyone around you being able to tell | 18:35 |
| MinceR | maybe he's just highly experienced when it comes to deception :> | 18:36 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +1816 cases (now 579112), +54 deaths (now 26492), +21 recoveries (now 129991) 🔸 US: +985 cases (now 94425), +44 deaths (now 1429), +18 recoveries (now 2447) 🔸 Pennsylvania, US: +500 cases (now 2218), +6 deaths (now 22) 🔸 Louisiana, US: +441 cases (now 2746), +36 deaths (now 119) 🔸 Czechia: +217 cases (now 2279) 🔸 Canada: +567 cases (now 4610) [... want %more?] | 18:36 |
| LjL | ubLIX, damn did amazon ever sell temperature-scanning eye glasses | 18:37 |
| LjL | aradesh, well people can be positive and healthy (at least for a while), he probably got tested because someone around him was positive | 18:38 |
| ubLIX | i uh hmm | 18:38 |
| aradesh | they really need more tests to follow the spread better. some country should be just like, "right. we need a million tests, and we want them in 10 days, money is no object" | 18:44 |
| aradesh | seems places are struggling to test enough people | 18:44 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 17:37 UTC: /u/slakmehl: Coronavirus stimulus package: House passes relief bill, sends to Trump — from r/WorldNews at 17:37: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/mHwVVc | 18:44 |
| aradesh | no don't send the relief money to trump! | 18:45 |
| aradesh | lol | 18:45 |
| aradesh | LjL: i think there is still a lot of feeling out there in the general public that in places like italy, "most people have had/got the virus" | 18:48 |
| aradesh | which is dangerous, because it'll mean people will become lax very quickly after a while | 18:48 |
| LjL | i am yet to see any real evidence of that | 18:48 |
| aradesh | my boss on one of my work calls today said something like, "i wouldn't be surprised if one of us gets it soon" | 18:48 |
| LjL | https://twitter.com/DerbysPolice/status/1243168931503882241 this makes me slightly perplexed | 18:48 |
| aradesh | but the whole idea is so few people get it, that this hopefully should be unlikely | 18:49 |
| LjL | aradesh, physical tests are most likely not a huge issue here, people being able to perform them on the other hand | 18:49 |
| aradesh | LjL: why slightly perplexed? | 18:50 |
| aradesh | to be honest, those people out on country walks, they're not near anyone other than probably those who they live with... | 18:50 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 17:43 UTC: /u/pixelcraftables: Coronavirus: Amazon dona 3,5 milioni a Protezione Civile ed enti no profit - la Repubblica — from r/WorldNews at 17:43: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/IJvuUT | 18:51 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +669 cases (now 579781), +24 deaths (now 26516), +674 recoveries (now 130665) 🔸 Switzerland: +617 cases (now 12928), +24 deaths (now 231), +633 recoveries (now 1530) 🔹 Alabama, US: +40 cases (now 571), +2 deaths (now 3) 🔹 Albania: +12 cases (now 186), +2 deaths (now 8), +14 recoveries (now 31) 🔹 Algeria: +42 cases (now 409), +1 deaths (now 26) [... want %more?] | 18:51 |
| LjL | aradesh, exactly | 18:52 |
| LjL | so do they want to | 18:52 |
| LjL | 1) show off their drones | 18:52 |
| LjL | 2) be like "no-no" at people just to show they're police | 18:52 |
| LjL | 3) being genuinely confused about what's risky and what's not | 18:52 |
| LjL | 4) all of the above | 18:52 |
| aradesh | i'm going with 4) | 18:53 |
| aradesh | those peolpe look like they're safer than me, when i walked to the supermarket for food | 18:53 |
| jiffe | I see US wins at coronavirus cases | 18:54 |
| aradesh | LjL: perhaps the problem is, at first becasue people were off work, far too many people were going out to these places - so they tried to ban it completely | 18:54 |
| jiffe | at least recovery count has gone up a lot too | 18:54 |
| aradesh | so now they're trying to discourage anyone from doing it at all | 18:54 |
| aradesh | which could make sense... if everyone thinks its ok, you could end up with crowds | 18:54 |
| AimHere | The police justification is they don't want everybody to pack into those outdoor gathering places | 18:54 |
| plopkun | Hi ljl read this: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/this-is-very-important-from-italy-please-read | 18:56 |
| ubLIX | aradesh: it was a bit crazy in the countryside around my area, hoards on the hills, in forests, and endless convoys of cars; never seen anything like it in all my rural days. it's calmed down now though | 18:57 |
| aradesh | ubLIX: UK? | 18:57 |
| aradesh | i live very close to derbyshire - i can walk there from my house in 30 mins | 18:57 |
| ubLIX | scotland | 18:58 |
| aradesh | unfortunately not to such beautiful places | 18:58 |
| aradesh | as the ones featured in that video | 18:58 |
| plopkun | Is Derbyshire rural? | 18:58 |
| aradesh | yeah it has the peak district | 18:58 |
| aradesh | which is a national park kind of thing | 18:58 |
| plopkun | Where in Scotland do you live approx? | 18:58 |
| aradesh | the coronavirus could become sorted in the 1st world, but then it spreads slowly in the 3rd world, which will act as a reservoire, and a place giving it opportunities to mutate... not very good. | 18:59 |
| ubLIX | third tree on the left, plopkun, by the unusually large rock | 18:59 |
| plopkun | Just tell me so I have an idea | 18:59 |
| plopkun | I wanna know where scared city folk go in Scotland | 19:00 |
| ubLIX | sry bud, no dice | 19:00 |
| plopkun | I want some of those smoked haddock | 19:01 |
| plopkun | Aradesh it's more likely the reservoir will produce some great asymptomatic variants | 19:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 17:53 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Congress green-lights relief bill, Google offers small biz support — from r/WorldNews at 17:53: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/U4IxHI | 19:02 |
| bin_bash | :( | 19:03 |
| aradesh | plopkun: what are asymptomatic variants? | 19:06 |
| aradesh | no symptoms? | 19:06 |
| plopkun | Los mutantes que no hacen nada | 19:06 |
| bin_bash | aradesh: yes | 19:07 |
| plopkun | I suspect several asymptomatic variants are already making rounds in many countries | 19:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 18:01 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Italy death toll crosses 9,000, Congress green-lights relief bill — from r/WorldNews at 18:01: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/U4IxHI | 19:08 |
| aradesh | but it doesn't matter if there are no symptoms | 19:08 |
| plopkun | If there are mild symptoms then it's just a common cold virus basically | 19:09 |
| aradesh | though i suppose you have the same problem - if it turns into a symptomless version, and then infects billions of people, then the chance that that one then mutates into something bad is high, due to the huge number of carriers | 19:11 |
| plopkun | I suppose so but viruses tend towards provoking milder symptoms over time don't they? | 19:13 |
| python476 | "India’s 2nd richest man donates $7.2 billion to charity to help fight COVID-19" | 19:13 |
| python476 | here people, have 5$ each ! | 19:13 |
| bin_bash | plopkun: what do you mean by that | 19:13 |
| plopkun | Virus life cycles prefer to keep their hosts alive | 19:14 |
| Brainstorm | New from Ars Technica at 18:08 UTC: Biz & IT: Broadband speeds fall in dozens of big US cities during pandemic — from r/WorldNews at 18:08: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/kjrxj0 | 19:15 |
| python476 | plopkun: said this way, it makes viruses natural negative feedback | 19:15 |
| bin_bash | plopkun: depends on the virus lol | 19:15 |
| python476 | https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/27/822407626/mystery-in-wuhan-recovered-coronavirus-patients-test-negative-then-positive | 19:16 |
| python476 | france lockdown prolonged until april 15th | 19:17 |
| mefistofeles | same will happen in Germany, probably | 19:17 |
| oriba | plopkun: Virologists Drosten says: it's very likely, that there are no asymptomatic cases... rather they are presymptomatic (means: virus can spread *before* symptoms occur), and that there are symptoms, but so mild that interviewed patients don't mention them... or that symptoms occur later but a second interview will not happen to gather that information. | 19:18 |
| mefistofeles | all I see is people breaking the quarantine and gathering having beer xD | 19:18 |
| python476 | oriba: the twiv podcast mentioned that | 19:18 |
| python476 | doctors had to pay real deep attention to details to get symptoms | 19:19 |
| oriba | python476: ah ok. it was too long for me to listen... | 19:19 |
| python476 | same | 19:19 |
| python476 | that's all I got out of it :D | 19:19 |
| plopkun | That what I meant oriba....not without symptoms but provoking milder symptoms | 19:19 |
| python476 | also stomach symptoms, even if only 20% of the cases, were related to bad outcomes | 19:19 |
| plopkun | Is remdesivir being made available everywhere now? | 19:20 |
| aradesh | LjL: i still think your data looks linear, even with today's above recent average amount. | 19:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 18:14 UTC: (news): Coronavirus deaths in New York state break 500, Gov. Andrew Cuomo extends school closures — from r/WorldNews at 18:14: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/pKdLiU | 19:21 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +2345 cases (now 582126), +71 deaths (now 26587), +11 recoveries (now 130676) 🔸 US: +2191 cases (now 96616), +39 deaths (now 1468), +6 recoveries (now 2453) 🔸 New Jersey, US: +1949 cases (now 8825), +27 deaths (now 108) 🔹 Alabama, US: +40 cases (now 571), +2 deaths (now 3) 🔹 Albania: +12 cases (now 186), +2 deaths (now 8), +14 recoveries (now 31) [... want %more?] | 19:21 |
| aradesh | obviously it'd be better if it was linear with a shallower gradient... | 19:21 |
| aradesh | but still better than exponential | 19:21 |
| plopkun | Is italy flattening yet | 19:22 |
| aradesh | depends what you mean by flattening | 19:23 |
| aradesh | it looks linear | 19:23 |
| LjL | aradesh, have you read plopkun's article? | 19:23 |
| aradesh | but it's not levelling off | 19:23 |
| aradesh | no | 19:23 |
| aradesh | which one? | 19:23 |
| mefistofeles | plopkun: been reducing the exponent quite consistently, if you ask me | 19:23 |
| mefistofeles | I mean, for Italy | 19:23 |
| mefistofeles | problem is ICUs/hospitals still in crisis | 19:24 |
| dunnp | https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2004973 | 19:24 |
| mefistofeles | %title | 19:24 |
| dunnp | better data on surface survival now | 19:24 |
| aradesh | https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/this-is-very-important-from-italy-please-read this one? | 19:24 |
| Brainstorm | mefistofeles: From www.nejm.org: Aerosol and Surface Stability of SARS-CoV-2 as Compared with SARS-CoV-1 | NEJM | 19:24 |
| LjL | plopkun, aradesh https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/this-is-very-important-from-italy-please-read i am *not* surprised even though the actual numbers are very underwhelming, but doctors and pharmacists from the are have already been saying on TV that there's bound to be a ton of deaths *not* from covid, but that wouldn't have happened without covid | 19:24 |
| LjL | like COPD patients no longer being able to buy oxygen bottles | 19:25 |
| LjL | those just die | 19:25 |
| LjL | COVID-19 killed them in a sense... but they definitely don't end up in the COVID death toll | 19:25 |
| LjL | i think this is indeed important to realize. it will happen in every country. | 19:25 |
| mefistofeles | they shouldn't | 19:25 |
| LjL | shortage of medical supplies and difficulties in obtaining prompt medical help will happen. | 19:25 |
| plopkun | Does it even make sense to prioritize covid patients over COPD, congestive heart failure, diabetic poor circulation patients etc | 19:26 |
| plopkun | Yes ljl I did not even think about this till I saw this article this morning | 19:27 |
| dunnp | looks like a max of 4 days | 19:27 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 18:22 UTC: /u/slakmehl: After last night expressing skepticism that state governors were being truthful about the need for ventilators, Trump appears to be pivoting towards a ramp up, tweeting angrily at General Motors for an apparent deal to produce ventilators that fell through. [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/1hy2my | 19:27 |
| LjL | plopkun, i am not sure there has been a thought-out prioritization | 19:27 |
| LjL | dunnp, max of? | 19:27 |
| LjL | oh | 19:27 |
| LjL | nevermind | 19:27 |
| dunnp | max surface survival of the virus | 19:28 |
| dunnp | plastic is the worst | 19:28 |
| dunnp | cardboard only 1 day survival | 19:28 |
| AimHere | Trust in copper | 19:28 |
| tinwhiskers | LjL: hopefully will get the states into the time series later today. | 19:29 |
| LjL | dunnp, yeah i know, sorry i just failed to check the backscroll | 19:29 |
| plopkun | Hospitals need a team of ethical strategists | 19:29 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, okay | 19:29 |
| tinwhiskers | I've been busy planting bananas and fishing now that we're in lockdown here | 19:30 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, we've bought bananas and they were even actually delivered | 19:30 |
| LjL | but i'm pretty sure yours will taste better | 19:30 |
| LjL | less like alcohol, anyway | 19:30 |
| tinwhiskers | Nice | 19:30 |
| sh4d0wme[m] | <plopkun "Hospitals need a team of ethical"> ?? | 19:31 |
| plopkun | I've lost weight so far ljl. I didn't expect being cooped up would make me lose weight | 19:31 |
| LjL | plopkun, body can react in various ways | 19:31 |
| LjL | i've lost some weight too | 19:31 |
| tinwhiskers | Actually, unlike most fruit bananas need to be picked green and let ripen so they are one of the few fruits that's no better at point of origin than shipped | 19:31 |
| LjL | sh4d0wme[m], there are definitely ethical issues that are being debated among the medical community, like for example in the US, where hospitals are deciding whether to "mandate" DNR orders on all COVID patients | 19:32 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, oh | 19:32 |
| tinwhiskers | If they ripen on the palm they split | 19:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 18:30 UTC: /u/slakmehl: ~30% single day increases in both confirmed cases and deaths in New Jersey. — from r/WorldNews at 18:30: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/ocCHY0 | 19:33 |
| plopkun | Give me all your overripe guineos so I can make banana bread. Also give me your covid Perl code so I can extense it to Python | 19:33 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +4216 cases (now 586342), +308 deaths (now 26895), +752 recoveries (now 131428) 🔸 US: +352 cases (now 96968), +9 deaths (now 1477) 🔸 Ohio, US: +270 cases (now 1137), +4 deaths (now 19) 🔸 France: +3809 cases (now 32964), +299 deaths (now 1995), +752 recoveries (now 5700) 🔹 Alabama, US: +40 cases (now 571), +2 deaths (now 3) [... want %more?] | 19:36 |
| LjL | %cases france | 19:36 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: In all areas, France, there are 32964 cases, 1995 deaths (6.1% of cases), 5700 recoveries as of March 27, 18:30Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=France for time series data. | 19:36 |
| MetaNova | % cases Georgia, US | 19:38 |
| MetaNova | %cases Georgia, US | 19:39 |
| Brainstorm | MetaNova: Sorry, Georgia, US not found. Either there aren't cases, or it's under a different name. | 19:39 |
| MetaNova | LjL: how can I reference by state? | 19:39 |
| plopkun | %cases Spain | 19:39 |
| Brainstorm | plopkun: In all areas, Spain, there are 64059 cases, 4934 deaths (7.7% of cases), 9357 recoveries as of March 27, 18:30Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Spain for time series data. | 19:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 18:36 UTC: (news): Coronavirus deaths in New York state break 500, Gov. Andrew Cuomo extends school closures — from r/WorldNews at 18:36: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/pKdLiU | 19:40 |
| plopkun | So far the anomalous countries are Germany and Japan | 19:40 |
| tinwhiskers | plopkun: what about South Korea? | 19:41 |
| plopkun | I don't think it's too early to say that Germany is clearly presenting as an anomolous case | 19:41 |
| MetaNova | %cases Georgia | 19:41 |
| Brainstorm | MetaNova: In all areas, Georgia, there are 2001 cases, 64 deaths (3.2% of cases), 14 recoveries as of March 27, 18:30Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Georgia for time series data. | 19:41 |
| LjL | MetaNova, i'm not sure ATM, Georgia keep being an edge case, and tinwhiskers is working to change state data since JHU doesn't have them anymore | 19:41 |
| LjL | %cases ga | 19:41 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: In all areas, Bulgaria, there are 293 cases, 3 deaths (1.0% of cases), 9 recoveries as of March 27, 18:30Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Bulgaria for time series data. | 19:41 |
| plopkun | South Korea isn't an anomaly when you consider how quickly they responded | 19:41 |
| LjL | yeah this should give you georgia, us but it doesn't | 19:41 |
| tinwhiskers | Hrm | 19:41 |
| LjL | other states tend to work right now | 19:42 |
| LjL | %cases new york | 19:42 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: In New York, US, there are 44635 cases, 519 deaths (1.2% of cases), 0 recoveries as of March 27, 18:30Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 19:42 |
| dunnp | our hospital is doubling nurse staff so fast wow and planning a field hospital with USACE | 19:42 |
| LjL | %case ny | 19:42 |
| LjL | %cases ny | 19:42 |
| MetaNova | %cases GA | 19:42 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: In New York, US, there are 44635 cases, 519 deaths (1.2% of cases), 0 recoveries as of March 27, 18:30Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 19:42 |
| Brainstorm | MetaNova: In all areas, Bulgaria, there are 293 cases, 3 deaths (1.0% of cases), 9 recoveries as of March 27, 18:30Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Bulgaria for time series data. | 19:42 |
| tinwhiskers | Yeah, I had to do some name changing for that case and I don't think it's done with the latest source | 19:42 |
| MetaNova | %cases GA, US | 19:42 |
| Brainstorm | MetaNova: Sorry, GA, US not found. Either there aren't cases, or it's under a different name. | 19:42 |
| tinwhiskers | %cases Georgia (us) | 19:42 |
| Brainstorm | tinwhiskers: Sorry, Georgia (us) not found. Either there aren't cases, or it's under a different name. | 19:42 |
| LjL | no that wouldn't work, bot doesn't accept region + country atm | 19:42 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, now *that* would have worked until yesterday or so | 19:43 |
| tinwhiskers | I'll check that soon | 19:43 |
| Scarecr0w | tinwhiskers: Country: USA | State: Georgia | State Code: GA | Cases: 2001 | Deaths: 64 | Last Updated: March 27, 2020 at 2:20 p.m. ET | ~0.0827920436859s | 19:43 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, fyi Georgia in the US is just not listed at all in the current csv | 19:44 |
| LjL | there's georgia the country and that's it | 19:44 |
| tinwhiskers | Ok | 19:44 |
| plopkun | I hope Georgia the country is doing ok. Haven't heard much about them | 19:45 |
| LjL | plopkun, not very great if the bot's numbers are right | 19:46 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 18:43 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Italy death toll crosses 9,000, Congress green-lights relief bill — from r/WorldNews at 18:43: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/U4IxHI | 19:46 |
| LjL | but not as bad as us or spain or etc | 19:46 |
| plopkun | https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2020/03/georgia-priests-bless-tbilisi-city-bid-covid-19-200318105909005.html | 19:47 |
| yuriwho | https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/experts-skeptical-of-study-connecting-blood-type-to-covid-19-risk-1.4869886 | 19:47 |
| yuriwho | %t | 19:47 |
| Brainstorm | yuriwho: From www.ctvnews.ca: #TruthTracker: Experts skeptical of study connecting blood type to COVID-19 risk | CTV News | 19:47 |
| Scarecr0w | Georgia, country is doing pretty well. Better than us. Country: Georgia | Total Cases: 83 | New Cases: +4 | Total Deaths: N/A | New Deaths: N/A | Total Recovered: 14 | Active Cases: 69 | Critical Cases/1M pop.: 1 | Total Cases/1M pop.: 21 | Total Deaths/1M pop.: N/A | Last Updated: March 27, 2020, 18:41 GMT | ~4.13296198845s | 19:47 |
| LjL | yuriwho, someone else was saying some days ago that the A vs AB results at least looked a bit inconsistent depending on location they used | 19:48 |
| yuriwho | it's easy to find non-causal correlates in samll medical data sets | 19:49 |
| dunnp | https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.23.20039446v2.full.pdf | 19:50 |
| dunnp | ^ tons of contamination on hospital surfaces | 19:50 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +890 cases (now 587232), +1 deaths (now 26896) 🔸 Germany: +834 cases (now 50178) 🔹 Afghanistan: +16 cases (now 110) 🔹 Alabama, US: +40 cases (now 571), +2 deaths (now 3) 🔹 Albania: +12 cases (now 186), +2 deaths (now 8), +14 recoveries (now 31) 🔹 Algeria: +42 cases (now 409), +1 deaths (now 26) 🔹 Andorra: +43 cases (now 267) [... want %more?] | 19:51 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 18:50 UTC: /u/slakmehl: 4 dead aboard a cruise ship with 1800 passengers that cannot find port to disembark. — from r/WorldNews at 18:50: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/9bjjUC | 19:52 |
| pwr22 | My first time experiencing this in the UK | 19:53 |
| tinwhiskers | %cases georgia (us) | 19:54 |
| Brainstorm | tinwhiskers: In Georgia (US), US, there are 2001 cases, 64 deaths (3.2% of cases), 0 recoveries as of March 27, 18:49Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Georgia%20(US) for time series data. | 19:54 |
| tinwhiskers | %cases georgia | 19:54 |
| tinwhiskers | %cases georgia | 19:54 |
| Brainstorm | tinwhiskers: In all areas, Georgia, there are 83 cases, 0 deaths (0.0% of cases), 14 recoveries as of March 27, 18:49Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Georgia for time series data. | 19:54 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, oh so that *was* the US state | 19:55 |
| LjL | despite having empty countryname | 19:55 |
| tinwhiskers | :-) | 19:55 |
| tinwhiskers | oops | 19:55 |
| LjL | yuriwho, i thought i remembered they had a not so small sample | 19:55 |
| LjL | pwr22, what is click and collect? | 19:55 |
| yuriwho | LjL: for phase III trials 5000-20000 patients is not uncommon | 19:56 |
| AimHere | LjL, I'm assuming it's online shopping, except you then go to the store and collect the goods | 19:56 |
| LjL | yuriwho, well sure but that's a bit different, you want to spot even rare side effects and all that | 19:56 |
| Scarecr0w | pwr22: Forgive me for asking but what are all the people queuing for, in the image you posted. | 19:56 |
| LjL | Scarecr0w, supermarket i think | 19:56 |
| AimHere | Scarecr0w, it's a supermarket. They're queueing for groceries | 19:56 |
| LjL | same as here | 19:56 |
| LjL | keeping distances | 19:57 |
| AimHere | There's limits on people in the shop because of the Coronavirus | 19:57 |
| LjL | sort of | 19:57 |
| Scarecr0w | I see, some parts of the world is already suffering hardcore. | 19:57 |
| LjL | i wouldn't call it suffering hardcore yet (for the ones queueing, not the ones in hospital, anyway) | 19:58 |
| LjL | pretty sure war stories i've heard from older relatives were more hardcore | 19:58 |
| LjL | but who knows what will become of this | 19:58 |
| Blankspace_ | When will this stop | 19:58 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 18:52 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Italy death toll crosses 9,000, Congress green-lights relief bill — from r/WorldNews at 18:52: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/U4IxHI | 19:58 |
| plopkun | LjL my parents have these annoying neighbor friends that keep ringing our doorbell and wanting to chat during a shelter in place order. Do your parents have friends like that | 19:59 |
| Blankspace_ | Why is Italy so unsuccessful in stopping the spread | 19:59 |
| Blankspace_ | While Korea and China manage to curtail the spread | 19:59 |
| LjL | plopkun, no, my parents dropped all their friends long ago | 19:59 |
| plopkun | Italy is successful now, just unsuccessful 3 weeks ago | 19:59 |
| Scarecr0w | Blankspace_: Elderly population, maybe. | 19:59 |
| LjL | plopkun, except now my mom facebooks everyone | 19:59 |
| plopkun | Haha | 19:59 |
| LjL | plopkun, i wouldn't say successful, that curve is still pretty dodgy to me | 20:00 |
| Blankspace_ | Are you sure it's going to come down in coming weeks | 20:00 |
| LjL | i'm not | 20:01 |
| LjL | i certainly hope so | 20:01 |
| aradesh | Blankspace_: they left it too late before acting seriously enough | 20:01 |
| aradesh | Blankspace_: both china, korea, japan took fairly severe action after their first 500 cases | 20:01 |
| aradesh | italy, and other western nations... not so much | 20:01 |
| LjL | https://i.imgur.com/uufTS2S.jpg | 20:01 |
| aradesh | italy is also a little ahead, they got infected early. many other western countries aren't looking much better than them i'm afraid | 20:01 |
| plopkun | Blankspace_ do you believe china? Also, South Korea, don't forget, dealt with a MERS outbreak in 2018 so they were on their toes | 20:02 |
| aradesh | lol | 20:02 |
| LjL | aradesh, spain certainly isn't | 20:02 |
| aradesh | LjL: nor USA, or the UK | 20:02 |
| LjL | well the US is just... | 20:02 |
| LjL | this space intentionally left blank | 20:02 |
| plopkun | Say it ljl | 20:02 |
| LjL | fucked? | 20:03 |
| plopkun | Out with it young man | 20:03 |
| Blankspace_ | How's us not bothered about deaths by Corona | 20:03 |
| LjL | if only | 20:03 |
| Blankspace_ | Does us live doesn't matter to the govt now | 20:03 |
| plopkun | Everyone wants to believe it's a nothing burger here | 20:03 |
| aradesh | the US infection rate is very similar, per capita, to italy a couple of weeks ago | 20:04 |
| aradesh | if it continues to match their shape, assuming similar protocols are put in place, then they'll have about 50,000 dead in 2 weeks | 20:04 |
| LjL | aradesh, i think their curve is much steeper overall | 20:04 |
| plopkun | How fucked are we ljl? On a scale of South Korea to Italy | 20:04 |
| LjL | plopkun, beyond italy | 20:04 |
| LjL | you'll see it soon | 20:04 |
| plopkun | Nice knowing you | 20:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health at 19:00 UTC: (news): Coronavirus: Birmingham and Manchester temporary hospitals announced — from r/WorldNews at 19:00: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/fWma9u | 20:05 |
| LjL | i'm sorry, i don't say it to gloat, but that curve is awful, and the government has reacted worse than itay | 20:05 |
| aradesh | 50,000 dead in 2 weeks is what we'll expect to see in the USA providing they have lockdown as good as italy's, from at least immediately | 20:05 |
| LjL | italy evne | 20:05 |
| LjL | sigh | 20:05 |
| AimHere | USA is a mixed bag. You'll have some places that the CV is going to totally rip right through | 20:05 |
| aradesh | yeah | 20:05 |
| LjL | yeah i mean, the US is big | 20:05 |
| aradesh | new york is locked down... but other areas, completely different | 20:05 |
| LjL | makes more sense to compare to the EU | 20:05 |
| AimHere | Different policies at state level and below | 20:05 |
| LjL | but then... the EU is sort of fucked | 20:05 |
| LjL | except maybe the east, who knows what's going on there, it's a bit weird | 20:06 |
| aradesh | i wonder if the EU establishment could actually collapse because of this | 20:06 |
| blkshp | \o/ saved by Brexit! | 20:06 |
| LjL | western europe is probably more similar in their policies currently than the various US places are | 20:06 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 Germany: +17 deaths (now 338), +985 recoveries (now 6658) 🔹 Afghanistan: +16 cases (now 110) 🔹 Alabama, US: +40 cases (now 571), +2 deaths (now 3) 🔹 Albania: +12 cases (now 186), +2 deaths (now 8), +14 recoveries (now 31) 🔹 Algeria: +42 cases (now 409), +1 deaths (now 26) 🔹 Andorra: +43 cases (now 267) 🔹 Argentina: +1 deaths (now 13) [... want %more?] | 20:06 |
| LjL | aradesh, well you've seen me tweet that i will no longer vote in EU election | 20:06 |
| LjL | not that that changes anything per se | 20:06 |
| LjL | but have you know many other people more enthusiastic about having an EU than me? | 20:06 |
| Scarecr0w | I'm in Virginia, near DC area, people here are going about their shit like nothing's going on whereas, NY, couple hours drive from here has ~40k+ cases. | 20:06 |
| LjL | once upon a time | 20:06 |
| AimHere | EU might tear itself apart if it doesn't sort out some sort of economic recovery plan | 20:06 |
| yuriwho | Blankspace_: IMO we are in for 6-12 months of physical distancing with more people going back to normal as they test positive for antibodies..... it will take a vaccine and >70% inoculation to establish herd immunity. Medical treatment will improve and lower death rates with time but we need to get past the peak till things start improving... probably by june for that depending on the country. | 20:07 |
| aradesh | LjL: well it might not eb a matter of support, more one of cost and economics | 20:07 |
| plopkun | Are you basically an EU skeptic now? | 20:07 |
| LjL | yuriwho, whoever originally said we're going to have a society made up of "previously-infected vs non-infected" classes seems increasingly right based on things you and others say | 20:08 |
| LjL | plopkun, i am basically a person that still wants to see a united europe but who realizes that's not what the EU is | 20:08 |
| LjL | (despite actual EU skeptics thinking it *is* trying to be and *hence* wanting to leave it) | 20:08 |
| yuriwho | I made that prediction a couple weeks ago, but many other medical folks have too | 20:08 |
| aradesh | like, none of the EU countries will be able to afford their EU money, and none of the poor countries are going to get much out of it in that case | 20:08 |
| LjL | but if the EU were going to be one country, and do it decently at it, i'd be on board | 20:08 |
| aradesh | and then the whole thing that gives the EU its main purpose, free movement and economy, will have been... shaken up somewhat | 20:09 |
| LjL | but instead they're being silent about what's happening and instead, hastening to tap my telephone | 20:09 |
| LjL | fuck them | 20:09 |
| aradesh | the soviet union didn't really collapse because of soviet-scepticism, but it just imploded under its own weight | 20:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 19:08 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Italy death toll crosses 9,000, Congress green-lights relief bill — from r/WorldNews at 19:08: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/U4IxHI | 20:11 |
| plopkun | How can their be two classes | 20:12 |
| plopkun | This thing is so contagious that two classes won't happen | 20:12 |
| Blankspace_ | Is younger population safe to corona | 20:12 |
| plopkun | No | 20:12 |
| Blankspace_ | Is there any stat on that | 20:13 |
| tinwhiskers | Blankspace_: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/ | 20:14 |
| LjL | plopkun, well, not forever | 20:14 |
| LjL | but for some time | 20:14 |
| LjL | people who will be able to go to work and outside because they are immune | 20:14 |
| LjL | and the rest of us | 20:14 |
| LjL | and i say "us" because if i get it my parents are dead | 20:14 |
| LjL | so i'd rather be locked down than immune | 20:14 |
| yuriwho | the recovered from infection become immune.... for the rest of this wave | 20:14 |
| yuriwho | Blankspace_: google risk by age covid | 20:16 |
| yuriwho | %t https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/18/coronavirus-new-age-analysis-of-risk-confirms-young-adults-not-invincible/ | 20:17 |
| Brainstorm | yuriwho: From www.statnews.com: New analysis of coronavirus risk: Young adults are not invincible - STAT | 20:17 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 19:12 UTC: How airline workers won a $32 billion lifeline in the contentious coronavirus relief bill: Labor unions played an instrumental role in getting a contentious coronavirus aid bill that protects their jobs through the end of September. — from r/WorldNews at 19:12: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/4T0WSJ | 20:17 |
| plopkun | Shit ljl that's scary as I'm in the same situation as you | 20:19 |
| plopkun | Just pray for a vaccine or something | 20:19 |
| yuriwho | I'm trying to stay -ve to allow medical interventions to be developed just in case | 20:20 |
| yuriwho | also high risk relatives | 20:20 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +1455 cases (now 586769), +45 deaths (now 26894), +15 recoveries (now 132428) 🔸 US: +1112 cases (now 98080), +36 deaths (now 1513) 🔸 Michigan, US: +801 cases (now 3657), +32 deaths (now 92) 🔸 Ireland: +302 cases (now 2121), +3 deaths (now 22) 🔹 Afghanistan: +16 cases (now 110) 🔹 Alabama, US: +40 cases (now 571), +2 deaths (now 3) [... want %more?] | 20:21 |
| plopkun | What is "-ve" | 20:21 |
| AimHere | negative | 20:22 |
| AimHere | As in disease-free | 20:22 |
| python476 | belgium report: https://www.rtl.be/info/belgique/societe/un-premier-cas-de-transmission-du-covid-19-de-l-homme-vers-un-chat-confirme-a-liege-ce-n-est-pas-la-regle--1207988.aspx?dt=13%3A32 | 20:22 |
| python476 | man to cat transmission | 20:22 |
| python476 | (also mentions man to dog) | 20:22 |
| python476 | ._. | 20:22 |
| LjL | there've been two confirmed dog infections | 20:22 |
| LjL | i don't think they can/should be ignored at this point | 20:22 |
| LjL | no matter how "weak" the positive was... both times | 20:22 |
| LjL | before and after quarantining the dog | 20:23 |
| LjL | which, incidentally, died right after quarantine | 20:23 |
| plopkun | What is chat a liege | 20:23 |
| AimHere | cat in Liege | 20:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 19:18 UTC: /u/pixelcraftables: Statistica delle curve di contagio e defunti di diversi paesi — from r/WorldNews at 19:18: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/stjP6Z | 20:23 |
| AimHere | Liege is in Belgium. Il Neige sur Liege | 20:24 |
| plopkun | Oh. | 20:24 |
| yuriwho | usually viruses make larger genetic changes on host species jumps. I do not expect pet infections to be much of an issue for either the pets or humans | 20:25 |
| python476 | yuriwho: yeah but it's yet another vector | 20:26 |
| python476 | and if youre confined and kill your own pet you go mad | 20:27 |
| yuriwho | no, since the pet virus has adapted to the pet not to humans | 20:27 |
| python476 | chances the genome could fit both systems are too thin ? | 20:27 |
| yuriwho | I'm sure the folks on this week in virology podcast have directly addressed this question | 20:28 |
| yuriwho | python476: yes | 20:28 |
| python476 | oh ok, gonna put that on play | 20:28 |
| python476 | but I'm also gonna let the cat out | 20:28 |
| python476 | because it's not even my cat and many people pet and feed him ~_~ | 20:28 |
| LjL | lol | 20:28 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 19:26 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Italy death toll crosses 9,000, Congress green-lights relief bill — from r/WorldNews at 19:26: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/U4IxHI | 20:30 |
| xrogaan | The name's Liège | 20:30 |
| xrogaan | with a è | 20:30 |
| AimHere | Yeah. Being an anglophone I don't have good memory retention for all the acutes and graves and cedillas and circumflices | 20:31 |
| AimHere | And most anglophones have difficulty typing it on their keyboards | 20:31 |
| LjL | rest assured that being NOT an anglophone we're all very well used to dropping accents on computers due to either not bothering, or having only ASCII readily available for some reason | 20:31 |
| LjL | although in italian dropping the final accents entirely is weird and uncommon | 20:32 |
| LjL | but people type ' instead | 20:32 |
| python476 | as a programmer, QWERTY is so much nicer to coding | 20:37 |
| python476 | sorry les francais.. | 20:37 |
| kamikazaee | sure | 20:38 |
| kamikazaee | possibility of spreading virus through eyes? | 20:39 |
| xrogaan | python476: try the belgian keyboard, it's a kind of azerty that doesn't suck. | 20:42 |
| mefistofeles | kamikazaee: yes, it is ossible | 20:42 |
| mefistofeles | possible* | 20:42 |
| mefistofeles | but not as likely | 20:42 |
| LjL | python476, wait what does AZERTY impede about coding? | 20:43 |
| xrogaan | LjL: key placement: {} and [] are far apparent from each others. | 20:44 |
| xrogaan | s/apparent/apart/ | 20:44 |
| Brainstorm | xrogaan meant to say: LjL: key placement: {} and [] are far apart from each others. | 20:44 |
| xrogaan | Good bot. | 20:44 |
| LjL | ah well that's not QWERTY vs AZERTY though | 20:46 |
| LjL | italian keyboard is QWERTY but the symbols are still all placed differently | 20:46 |
| LjL | what you mean is "US layout" :P | 20:46 |
| LjL | also yay netsplit | 20:46 |
| xrogaan | azerty is so french that is has the stink. | 20:48 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 19:45 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: France reports new spike in deaths, Congress green-lights relief bill — from r/WorldNews at 19:45: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/U4IxHI | 20:48 |
| xrogaan | oh, the US is number 1. Yay. | 20:48 |
| jiffe | NY is staying close to 50% of US cases | 20:50 |
| iz | almost 100k in the usa now | 20:50 |
| jiffe | I see Italy surpassed china too | 20:51 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +1535 cases (now 588304), +20 deaths (now 26914), +12 recoveries (now 132440) 🔸 US: +1036 cases (now 99116), +5 deaths (now 1518), +12 recoveries (now 2465) 🔸 Illinois, US: +488 cases (now 3026) 🔸 California, US: +257 cases (now 4459), +5 deaths (now 90) 🔸 Brazil: +390 cases (now 3417), +15 deaths (now 92) 🔹 Afghanistan: +16 cases (now 110) [... want %more?] | 20:51 |
| mefistofeles | btw, does anybody have that tweet of the UK scientist claiming he wrote a C code 13 years ago for pandemics? | 20:54 |
| mefistofeles | working with Microsoft and github to make it public and whatnot | 20:54 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 19:50 UTC: How airline workers won a $32 billion lifeline in the contentious coronavirus relief bill: Labor unions played an instrumental role in getting a contentious coronavirus aid bill that protects their jobs through the end of September. — from r/WorldNews at 19:50: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/4T0WSJ | 20:55 |
| LjL | apparently our head of state made a speech (that i was unaware was coming) and it was uploaded "by mistake" (?) in an unedited version where he kept messing up and starting again https://www.reddit.com/r/italy/comments/fq2fad/il_discorso_di_mattarella_alla_nazione/ | 20:58 |
| oriba | mefistofeles: https://twitter.com/neil_ferguson/status/1241835454707699713 | 20:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 19:50 UTC: Liverpool players and staff thank NHS workers for fighting coronavirus – video: Liverpool staff and players have paid tribute to healthcare workers on the frontlines of the coronavirus crisis around the world in a video posted to the club's official Twitter account [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/FOaUGg | 21:01 |
| mefistofeles | oriba: thank you! | 21:01 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +969 cases (now 589273), +19 deaths (now 26933) 🔸 US: +921 cases (now 100037), +18 deaths (now 1536) 🔸 Massachusetts, US: +823 cases (now 3240), +10 deaths (now 35) 🔹 Afghanistan: +16 cases (now 110) 🔹 Alabama, US: +56 cases (now 587), +2 deaths (now 3) 🔹 Albania: +12 cases (now 186), +2 deaths (now 8), +14 recoveries (now 31) [... want %more?] | 21:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 20:05 UTC: /u/pixelcraftables: Le consegne in Italia sotto Coronavirus. — from r/WorldNews at 20:05: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/R4EcTx | 21:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 20:10 UTC: (news): Four dead on Carnival-owned cruise ship amid new coronavirus outbreak aboard — from r/WorldNews at 20:10: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/SIEajI | 21:13 |
| pepee | https://spectrum.ieee.org/the-human-os/biomedical/devices/blood-filtration-tech-removes-harmful-cytokines-covid19-patients | 21:13 |
| Brainstorm | pepee: At 2020-03-27 16:44:15 UTC, LjL told you: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HLrm0pqBN_5bdyysOeoOBX4pt4oFDBhsC_jpblXpNtQ/preview masks | 21:13 |
| pepee | thanks LjL | 21:14 |
| oriba | FYI: covid-19, where is the evidence? (german text): COVID-19: Wo ist die Evidenz? https://www.ebm-netzwerk.de/de/veroeffentlichungen/nachrichten/covid-19-wo-ist-die-evidenz | 21:17 |
| Xip | I'll be here another evening, I got somewhat hooked what is really going on. | 21:18 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 20:16 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: France reports new spike in deaths, Disneyland and Disney World to stay closed — from r/WorldNews at 20:16: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/U4IxHI | 21:20 |
| mefistofeles | Xip: bunch of deaths from Italy, I guess it is the lag between cases and deaths | 21:20 |
| mefistofeles | not sure if LjL already said something on the matter | 21:20 |
| mefistofeles | been really busy lately, trying to partner with some teams to get something going to help MDs | 21:21 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +1046 cases (now 590319), +11 deaths (now 26944) 🔸 US: +353 cases (now 100390), +7 deaths (now 1543) 🔸 Germany: +693 cases (now 50871), +4 deaths (now 342) 🔸 Connecticut, US: +279 cases (now 1291), +6 deaths (now 27) 🔹 Afghanistan: +16 cases (now 110) 🔹 Alabama, US: +56 cases (now 587), +2 deaths (now 3) [... want %more?] | 21:21 |
| Xip | As said I've really been off the grid so I realized I have to try to understand this situation a bit better | 21:21 |
| Xip | The disaster this could do to the economy is unheard of, maybe, I just need to think more clearly and try to understand what is going on | 21:22 |
| mefistofeles | I mean, of course the rich people are at more risk, but all governments will just team with them to make the poor people pay | 21:23 |
| mefistofeles | already happening in the US, obviously there | 21:23 |
| Xip | This seems to have been a suprise to everyone. I was one of the firt to say "This must be some kind of deep state bla bla" thing, because I am a crazy person, prepper, bitcoiner etc. But now I am not so sure what this is.. | 21:23 |
| mefistofeles | if you ask me, I'd say go for less power but less harm to the common people | 21:23 |
| mefistofeles | won't happen, all governments and countries prefer power, specially if they already have a significant amount of it | 21:24 |
| fester | https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.11.20031096v2 | 21:25 |
| mefistofeles | %title | 21:26 |
| Xip | I don't know what blood type I am | 21:26 |
| Brainstorm | mefistofeles: From www.medrxiv.org: Relationship between the ABO Blood Group and the COVID-19 Susceptibility | medRxiv | 21:26 |
| Xip | group*~ | 21:26 |
| mefistofeles | ah yeah, we have discussed that one already, I think | 21:26 |
| Xip | Is there some simple way to find out? | 21:26 |
| Xip | How you determine what blood type you are that is.. yeah that's not expensive, approx 10 dollars for a kit. | 21:30 |
| Xip | Someone I know got that rare one, he/she donates blood. Never really paid much attention to it. | 21:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 20:22 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Frontline NHS staff first to receive new Covid-19 antigen tests — from r/WorldNews at 20:22: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/b9Vb10 | 21:32 |
| Xip | I bought cinchona bark, probably because some how I can justify that I can make a delicious tonic.. to mix with gin, maybe, but anyway. Is there any truth to it that quinine has any effect on this virus? | 21:34 |
| Xip | Seems like a mix, not sure what to believe. | 21:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 20:34 UTC: San Francisco's early restrictions seem to be helping hospitals avoid coronavirus overload — so far: San Francisco isn't seeing anywhere near as many COVID-19 cases as New York, although the situation could still change. Medical experts share their theories as to why that is. [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/EmC07p | 21:38 |
| mefistofeles | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54XLXg4fYsc pretty nice | 21:41 |
| mefistofeles | specially the visualization | 21:41 |
| mefistofeles | tinwhiskers: ↑ offloop should use something like that :) | 21:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 20:38 UTC: Coronavirus US live: House passes $2.2tn economic stimulus package: Trump on requests for ventilators: ‘I don’t believe you need 30,000’ US surpasses China for highest number of confirmed cases How US governors are fighting coronavirus – and Trump Did a New York Times article inspire Trump’s ‘back to [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/tsB6sl | 21:45 |
| fructose | New site... https://ccdd.hsph.harvard.edu/covid-19/ | 21:47 |
| pepee | https://www.hospimedica.com/coronavirus/articles/294781249/coronavirus-more-likely-to-infect-people-with-blood-type-a-finds-study.html https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.11.20031096v1 | 21:48 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 20:47 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: California bans evictions for those impacted by COVID-19, Disneyland and Disney World to stay closed — from r/WorldNews at 20:47: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/U4IxHI | 21:51 |
| LjL | pepee, yeah but yuriwho linked an article earlier that puts those finding into doubt, and i had seen other medical opinions before saying that study was a bit dubious | 21:57 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 20:51 UTC: /u/slakmehl: Well done visualization of Corona testing the United States, illustrating both (1) how enormous the gains in testing capacity have been recently (increasing exponentially for the last 10 days) and (2) how much work there still is to do to catch up with the rest of the world, with woefully inadequate [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/Xe42tg | 21:58 |
| pepee | LjL, ahh, I hadn't seen that, sorry | 21:58 |
| LjL | pepee, did you see the link i sent you about masks | 22:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from https://covid19.specops.network * at 21:00 UTC: ljl-covid: Add Harvard — from r/WorldNews at 21:00: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/EqlotK | 22:04 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +294 cases (now 590613), +8 deaths (now 26952), +7 recoveries (now 132447) 🔸 Spain: +226 cases (now 64285), +6 deaths (now 4940) 🔹 Afghanistan: +16 cases (now 110) 🔹 Alabama, US: +56 cases (now 587), +2 deaths (now 3) 🔹 Albania: +12 cases (now 186), +2 deaths (now 8), +14 recoveries (now 31) 🔹 Algeria: +42 cases (now 409), +1 deaths (now 26) [... want %more?] | 22:06 |
| pepee | LjL, yeah, I did , lotsa info there, thanks a lot | 22:08 |
| LjL | %cases ireland | 22:10 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: In all areas, Ireland, there are 2121 cases, 22 deaths (1.0% of cases), 5 recoveries as of March 27, 21:03Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Ireland for time series data. | 22:10 |
| LjL | ireland is locking down effective tonight | 22:11 |
| LjL | everything but essential | 22:11 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 21:13 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: California bans evictions for those impacted by COVID-19, Disneyland and Disney World to stay closed — from r/WorldNews at 21:13: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/U4IxHI | 22:17 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 21:27 UTC: /u/slakmehl: ABC News Politics su Twitter: "NEW: At least 36 sailors aboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt have now tested positive for the novel coronavirus, U.S. official says. Navy officials expect the number to continue to grow. https://t.co/SvLX0Z2g6u" — from r/WorldNews at 21:27: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/MjwGtf | 22:30 |
| YouCantSeeMe[m] | i shit my pants, do i have coronavirus? | 22:30 |
| bin_bash | yes | 22:31 |
| LjL | YouCantSeeMe[m], first impression counts the most | 22:31 |
| LjL | second impression is the one that gets you banned, though | 22:32 |
| tinwhiskers | mefistofeles: yeah, that's quite cool | 22:32 |
| YouCantSeeMe[m] | tfw you're an internet jannie | 22:33 |
| LjL | unno what that means | 22:34 |
| YouCantSeeMe[m] | ahem | 22:34 |
| YouCantSeeMe[m] | FUCK NIGGERS AND FUCK JANNIES | 22:35 |
| LjL | okay, that's clearer | 22:35 |
| bin_bash | whats a jannie | 22:35 |
| LjL | too bad i have to get on matrix to actually ban them | 22:35 |
| AimHere | I want to know what a jannie is too | 22:35 |
| bin_bash | see this is what u get for using matrix :P | 22:35 |
| AimHere | Shorthand for 'janitor' is all I can think of, and it doesn't really work in context. | 22:36 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +207 cases (now 590820), +5 deaths (now 26957), +24 recoveries (now 132471) 🔹 Afghanistan: +16 cases (now 110) 🔹 Alabama, US: +56 cases (now 587), +2 deaths (now 3) 🔹 Albania: +12 cases (now 186), +2 deaths (now 8), +14 recoveries (now 31) 🔹 Algeria: +42 cases (now 409), +1 deaths (now 26) 🔹 Andorra: +43 cases (now 267) 🔹 Argentina: +1 deaths (now 13) [... want %more?] | 22:36 |
| bin_bash | i googled it and all i found were sketchy kid videos | 22:36 |
| LjL | they probably did mean janitor | 22:36 |
| pwr22 | Whoa, what's going on here? | 22:37 |
| LjL | for sure, i do feel more like that than a "mod" or "op" or what you call it on the given network | 22:37 |
| LjL | when i ban people like that | 22:37 |
| bin_bash | https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Jannie | 22:37 |
| LjL | pwr22, nothing, just an obvious troll | 22:37 |
| AimHere | His internal username is 'johncenama' which, if the internet is to be believed, is someone's film teacher. | 22:38 |
| tinwhiskers | LjL: I guess they though you were a "Tall, blond, gorgeous women that is ALWAYS right" | 22:38 |
| LjL | well it's true on the last part | 22:38 |
| tinwhiskers | :-) | 22:38 |
| AimHere | That's the least fun bit | 22:39 |
| LjL | i know | 22:39 |
| fructose | https://i.imgur.com/epyp9bv.jpg | 22:39 |
| LjL | i'm boring af | 22:39 |
| tinwhiskers | holy shit fructose | 22:40 |
| tinwhiskers | I hadn't noticed that | 22:41 |
| Acoustic[m] | https://youtu.be/gxAaO2rsdIs | 22:41 |
| bin_bash | usa #1 in infections ooh-rah | 22:41 |
| tinwhiskers | At the rate that graph is climbing US will soon be back to the moon | 22:42 |
| pwr22 | USA has the best covid | 22:42 |
| pwr22 | Trust me | 22:42 |
| pwr22 | It's gonna be great | 22:42 |
| pwr22 | 👌😙 | 22:42 |
| AimHere | USA does seem to have it's own strain. USA Exceptionalism at it's finest | 22:42 |
| tinwhiskers | lol | 22:42 |
| mefistofeles | AimHere: source? | 22:42 |
| AimHere | https://nextstrain.org/ncov | 22:43 |
| tinwhiskers | nah, it'll all be gone in a few days. Trust me, it's like a miracle. | 22:43 |
| pwr22 | I've spoken to ask the top experts | 22:43 |
| AimHere | Apparently 8 major strains in circulation. | 22:43 |
| Acoustic[m] | <bin_bash "usa #1 in infections ooh-rah"> Btw, I noticed that it's a way bigger deal for Americans to restrict work for two weeks than for Europeans | 22:43 |
| AimHere | Don't ask me how to read that phylogenetic tree | 22:43 |
| LjL | %title https://youtu.be/gxAaO2rsdIs | 22:43 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: From youtu.be: Simulating an epidemic - YouTube | 22:43 |
| bin_bash | Acoustic[m]: only if youre poor | 22:43 |
| pwr22 | And they all were saying, wow you know so much, you should work here | 22:43 |
| tinwhiskers | AimHere: that's entirely arbitrary and they have no known differences in behaviour so it's moot, right? | 22:43 |
| bin_bash | or in a job that can't allow working from home Acoustic[m] | 22:43 |
| pwr22 | </trump> | 22:43 |
| bin_bash | yeah if you do menial labor and cant drive a car, it's gonna suck for awhile | 22:43 |
| AimHere | tinwhiskers, I don't see how it'd be arbitrary. I'd expect that some DNA sequencing would be able to seperate these things out | 22:44 |
| Acoustic[m] | Like, Muricans are really acting like it's end of the world | 22:44 |
| AimHere | As for behavioural differences, again, there may be different ones | 22:44 |
| bin_bash | Acoustic[m]: i havent seen that at all | 22:44 |
| tinwhiskers | AimHere: it's arbitrary where you define one as a different strain. You could say there are over 100 different strains | 22:44 |
| Acoustic[m] | Maybe it's because I only seen Internet reactions | 22:44 |
| eaxomar | acoustic, yes probably | 22:45 |
| Acoustic[m] | Like American left calling for shooting their landlords or some texan guy telling me that he will not obey the lockdown, because stopping economic activity will cause a catastrophe | 22:46 |
| eaxomar | I think american use a lot of clowning to discredit the opposing party | 22:47 |
| eaxomar | so social media would promote images of crazy leftists | 22:47 |
| eaxomar | to condition a reaction of disgust | 22:47 |
| eaxomar | which would also work against non crazy leftists | 22:48 |
| eaxomar | same for conservatists | 22:48 |
| Acoustic[m] | Not images, actual people. On fb groups | 22:48 |
| eaxomar | some sort of vaccine to cordial behaviour | 22:48 |
| eaxomar | at least that's the impression i get browsing reddit | 22:48 |
| Acoustic[m] | I have noticed more and more idiotic takes on fb. | 22:49 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 21:42 UTC: US coronavirus cases top 100,000, doubling in three days: On Thursday, confirmed cases in the U.S. surpassed that of both China and Italy, making it the country with the largest outbreak in the world. — from r/WorldNews at 21:42: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/2oedJ0 | 22:49 |
| Acoustic[m] | Slightly worrying | 22:49 |
| mefistofeles | AimHere: I still don't see how the claim of a specific strain for the US holds, tbh | 22:50 |
| AimHere | I was just looking at the pretty map and the big red blob where the US is :) | 22:50 |
| mefistofeles | AimHere: ah, just that many sequenced genomes :P | 22:50 |
| mefistofeles | AimHere: check the narratives from that same site, fwiw | 22:51 |
| tinwhiskers | The phylogenetic tree is great for tracing the path and progress of the virus but you should read any difference in virus behaviour into just because they diverge on the tree. | 22:52 |
| ryouma | my octogenarian mother told me that while i probably missed it in my time, the us used to have civility | 22:52 |
| tinwhiskers | It's like people want to say their country has a worse strain as some sort of excuse. | 22:52 |
| mefistofeles | yeah,you can see how most of them are synonymous mutations | 22:53 |
| tinwhiskers | *shouldn't read | 22:53 |
| tinwhiskers | I can't english | 22:53 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, relevant to that, and to "why was Italy hit harder", and such wonderings, https://youtu.be/gxAaO2rsdIs?t=455 | 22:56 |
| LjL | it's just a short passage from the video that was linked above | 22:56 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 21:54 UTC: Coronavirus US live: Trump signs $2.2tn stimulus bill after invoking Defense Production Act: Trump on requests for ventilators: ‘I don’t believe you need 30,000’ US surpasses China for highest number of confirmed cases How US governors are fighting coronavirus – and Trump Did a New York Times article inspire [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/tsB6sl | 23:01 |
| kreyren | US is on 100K confirmed cases of covid-19? holy@#%^ | 23:03 |
| ryouma | and maybe twice that on monday | 23:04 |
| kreyren | maybe eight times that much at this rate | 23:05 |
| kreyren | lets see how much can trump hug this up | 23:05 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +207 cases (now 591027), +18 deaths (now 26975), +19 recoveries (now 132490) 🔸 US: +207 cases (now 100599), +7 deaths (now 1550) 🔹 Afghanistan: +16 cases (now 110) 🔹 Alabama, US: +56 cases (now 587), +2 deaths (now 3) 🔹 Albania: +12 cases (now 186), +2 deaths (now 8), +14 recoveries (now 31) 🔹 Algeria: +42 cases (now 409), +1 deaths (now 26) [... want %more?] | 23:06 |
| tinwhiskers | US doubling time is currently 3 days and on a slightly rising trend, so it will probably be 3 more days before the US reaches 200,000. | 23:11 |
| kreyren | New york is probably the same as The Division VR right now | 23:12 |
| kreyren | or at least soon to be i assume O.o | 23:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 22:09 UTC: San Francisco's early restrictions seem to be helping hospitals avoid coronavirus overload — so far: San Francisco isn't seeing anywhere near as many COVID-19 cases as New York, although the situation could still change. Medical experts share their theories as to why that is. [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/EmC07p | 23:14 |
| dzho | ugh | 23:16 |
| dzho | these sorts of comparisons are so unhelpful | 23:16 |
| dzho | SF has a population density ~7K/sq km, NYC's density is about 3 times as much | 23:16 |
| mefistofeles | lol, yeah | 23:18 |
| mefistofeles | also, are they testing as much? because there was a time NYC was testing like crazy | 23:18 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus* at 22:15 UTC: r/Coronavirus is looking for new Moderators!: r/Coronavirus is looking for new moderators to join our team. As you can probably imagine with the rapid growth the subreddit has had recently we've been very busy and need some help! We are mainly interested in moderators who are in Pacific timezones (East Asia, [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/F1UV7X | 23:20 |
| spybert | !risk 44 | 23:21 |
| CovBot | I estimate a 44 year old patient sick with COVID-19 has a 99.4% chance of survival, a 20.3% likelihood of needing to go to hospital, a 6.4% risk of needing intensive care there and a 0.6% chance of death. | 23:21 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +567 cases (now 591594), +9 deaths (now 26984), +30 recoveries (now 132520) 🔸 US: +560 cases (now 101159), +9 deaths (now 1559) 🔸 Colorado, US: +304 cases (now 1734), +7 deaths (now 31) 🔹 Afghanistan: +16 cases (now 110) 🔹 Alabama, US: +56 cases (now 587), +2 deaths (now 3) 🔹 Albania: +12 cases (now 186), +2 deaths (now 8), +14 recoveries (now 31) [... want %more?] | 23:21 |
| Xip | Do you hear that guys? You all will live | 23:21 |
| eaxomar | unless hospital saturation | 23:22 |
| ryouma | which is likely | 23:22 |
| Xip | And.. Unless you get exposed to it over and over... | 23:22 |
| eaxomar | reinfection not confirmed | 23:22 |
| LjL | what really unnerves me in those !risk calculations is the hospitalization rate | 23:23 |
| Xip | Right but it could be the case, why people are freaking out, but yes | 23:23 |
| LjL | well, for myself. also the death rate for my parents. | 23:23 |
| Xip | LjL, Are you able to stay away from people now? | 23:23 |
| ryouma | and if the model is correct and if the strains are about the same and if there is no mutation and ... if you are that age and ... if you have no comorbidities, even ones you don't know about yet ... and ... if the model is complete enough ... | 23:24 |
| LjL | Xip, sort of, but it's leaky enough infection may happen | 23:24 |
| Xip | LjL, Have you got any cough? | 23:24 |
| LjL | yes, since months | 23:25 |
| Xip | LjL, Since January? | 23:25 |
| LjL | much earlier | 23:25 |
| Xip | LjL, Do you usually have a cough? I mean, you say months but, has that happend before? | 23:25 |
| LjL | yes | 23:26 |
| Xip | LjL, Yeah then it's just that cough you get sometimes. Some people have that | 23:26 |
| LjL | i figured that | 23:26 |
| LjL | doesn't mean i can't get COVID when i'm in one of the most exposed places in the world | 23:26 |
| ryouma | why january? | 23:27 |
| LjL | (not that most other places also won't get similarly exposed, but honestly if that simulation is anywhere near accurate, we can't do anything but slow things down until we get cures/vaccines now) | 23:27 |
| LjL | ryouma, early cases in Italy were tentatively traced back to January | 23:27 |
| LjL | "patient one" most definitely wasn't patient one, anyway | 23:28 |
| LjL | nevermind zero | 23:28 |
| balaa[m] | !risk 4 | 23:28 |
| ryouma | 0 is the first in a place and 1 is the second? why speak of 1 as if there were only 1 1? | 23:28 |
| CovBot | I estimate a 4 year old patient sick with COVID-19 has a 100.0% chance of survival, a 0.0% likelihood of needing to go to hospital, a 0.0% risk of needing intensive care there and a 0.0% chance of death. | 23:29 |
| berndj | so my country has gone from 2 deaths yesterday to 1 death today | 23:29 |
| ryouma | listen to that one, parents! | 23:29 |
| LjL | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUEEND7XkAAVglw?format=jpg&name=large | 23:29 |
| berndj | (turns out a suspected case, who died, tested negative) | 23:29 |
| Xip | LjL, ryouma, As he said there, nothing else really. Since we now know it does spread asymptomatic, we can probably be sure that around that time, at least, in January it was a wild fire. | 23:29 |
| LjL | ryouma, because 1 was the one that was identified as falling seriously ill and infecting many others due to initial lack of recognition of the disease at the ER | 23:30 |
| balaa[m] | !risk 34 | 23:30 |
| CovBot | I estimate a 34 year old patient sick with COVID-19 has a 99.8% chance of survival, a 14.1% likelihood of needing to go to hospital, a 3.7% risk of needing intensive care there and a 0.2% chance of death. | 23:30 |
| sh4d0wme[m] | <LjL "sh4d0wme, there are definitely e"> Perhaps you are not fully aware of the real current "ethical" status of the US medicine and research | 23:31 |
| bin_bash | !risk 101 | 23:31 |
| CovBot | I estimate a 101 year old patient sick with COVID-19 has a 67.0% chance of survival, a 56.1% likelihood of needing to go to hospital, a 22.2% risk of needing intensive care there and a 33.0% chance of death. | 23:31 |
| northwind | !risk 29 | 23:31 |
| bin_bash | thats pretty high | 23:31 |
| CovBot | I estimate a 29 year old patient sick with COVID-19 has a 99.9% chance of survival, a 10.9% likelihood of needing to go to hospital, a 2.3% risk of needing intensive care there and a 0.1% chance of death. | 23:31 |
| bin_bash | chance of survival i eman | 23:31 |
| berndj | wow, really? the oldies still have such a high chance of survival? | 23:31 |
| bin_bash | !risk 70 | 23:31 |
| CovBot | I estimate a 70 year old patient sick with COVID-19 has a 96.2% chance of survival, a 36.7% likelihood of needing to go to hospital, a 13.6% risk of needing intensive care there and a 3.8% chance of death. | 23:32 |
| berndj | (this is a good way to mine irc people's ages) | 23:32 |
| Xip | bin_bash, Yeah what's the chance of dying at 101 in general? | 23:32 |
| bin_bash | Xip: yeah idk lol | 23:32 |
| Xip | bin_bash, This bot is not quite scientific. | 23:32 |
| balaa[m] | !risk 120 | 23:32 |
| CovBot | The risk model only handles ages between 0 and 110 | 23:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 22:25 UTC: Coronavirus US live: Trump signs $2.2tn stimulus bill after invoking Defense Production Act: Trump on requests for ventilators: ‘I don’t believe you need 30,000’ US surpasses China for highest number of confirmed cases How US governors are fighting coronavirus – and Trump Did a New York Times article inspire [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/tsB6sl | 23:33 |
| LjL | well the bot simply doesn't try to answer the question of "how more likely are you to die of COVID than other things at a certain age" | 23:33 |
| bin_bash | yeah no kidding Xip hahaha | 23:33 |
| LjL | it assumes you *are* a COVID patient of that age, and estimates the chances of survival | 23:33 |
| LjL | i wouldn't say it's not scientific. it is not a complete model, like... just about every other model ever | 23:33 |
| Xip | Jesus christ, if you are 101 years old and you got corona, you will die 100%. | 23:33 |
| bin_bash | actually a guy in italy just survived | 23:34 |
| Xip | Is it so? | 23:34 |
| bin_bash | yeah | 23:34 |
| LjL | Xip, there was a guy in China who i think was exactly 101 and was smiling back among the recovered | 23:34 |
| bin_bash | but i doubt he had a 67% chance of survival | 23:34 |
| LjL | few things are ever 100% | 23:34 |
| Xip | Hmm. | 23:34 |
| yn | %cases Ohio | 23:34 |
| Brainstorm | yn: In Ohio, US, there are 1137 cases, 19 deaths (1.7% of cases), 0 recoveries as of March 27, 22:17Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 23:34 |
| yn | finally, updated | 23:34 |
| yn | woot | 23:34 |
| Xip | Maybe there are different strains of the virus. | 23:35 |
| Xip | Has there been any more information regarding that? | 23:35 |
| berndj | a 101-year-old's chances of dying within 3 weeks are reasonably low if they're not infected | 23:35 |
| ryouma | it could be logically consistent to say that 100% of things are 100% | 23:35 |
| LjL | there is no evidence of different strains with different actual characteristics of infection | 23:35 |
| LjL | it was discussed shortly ago | 23:35 |
| Xip | Alright | 23:35 |
| ryouma | would you call that just genetic drift? | 23:36 |
| Xip | You guys, I think we are fairly safe. What is the typical IRC user? Like 40:ish? Maybe we are around 50? | 23:36 |
| LjL | berndj, in fact once you're past something around the average life expectancy, your chances of surviving another year go *up*, until at some point, well, the telomeres do their job or something | 23:36 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +1695 cases (now 593289), +208 deaths (now 27192) 🔸 Spain: +1434 cases (now 65719), +198 deaths (now 5138) 🔹 Afghanistan: +16 cases (now 110) 🔹 Alabama, US: +56 cases (now 587), +2 deaths (now 3) 🔹 Albania: +12 cases (now 186), +2 deaths (now 8), +14 recoveries (now 31) 🔹 Algeria: +42 cases (now 409), +1 deaths (now 26) [... want %more?] | 23:36 |
| LjL | ryouma, i don't know what i'd call it, there may be things we aren't able to appreciate in it | 23:37 |
| Xip | If someone is 101 here though, let me know, I want to talk with you! =) | 23:37 |
| berndj | LjL, i didn't know it went up! i thought your life expectancy just kinda tracks your age after some point, to the point that you always have "another 5 years to live" (or whatever the number is), but (slowly) decreasing | 23:38 |
| ryouma | LjL: sounds more likely | 23:38 |
| ryouma | i.e. agree | 23:38 |
| berndj | i thought that happens only near birth, where every day you survive increases your life expectancy by more than a day | 23:39 |
| LjL | berndj, it makes some intuitive sense i think. on average, when you're nearing average life expectancy, it seems clear you get more likely to die. but if you get *past* the life expectancy, that provides progressively more evidence that you're someone particularly healthy or otherwise predisposed to live longer | 23:39 |
| PlanckWalk | Doesn't seem to match Australian mortality data | 23:39 |
| LjL | ryouma, but people are studying these things, it's not like they're being discounted. there's just a lot of unknowns. | 23:40 |
| LjL | PlanckWalk, i'm not describing mortality though, i'm describing your life expectancy when you're a given age | 23:40 |
| LjL | those graphs look different from each other | 23:40 |
| PlanckWalk | I mean deriving hazard rate from mortality. | 23:41 |
| PlanckWalk | I.e. proportion of people who die in the subsequent year who are of a given age. | 23:42 |
| PlanckWalk | it keeps going up from about age 6. | 23:42 |
| berndj | that was my understanding too PlanckWalk - with some localized exceptions | 23:44 |
| skincell3[m] | I'm curious do any of y'all know if there is data for hospitalizations in Florida versus other years? | 23:44 |
| sh4d0wme[m] | <skincell3[m] "I'm curious do any of y'all know"> and deaths? | 23:46 |
| skincell3[m] | ^that would be interesting also. | 23:47 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +336 cases (now 593625), +22 deaths (now 27214) 🔸 Washington, US: +331 cases (now 3700), +20 deaths (now 175) 🔸 US: +331 cases (now 101652), +20 deaths (now 1587) 🔹 Afghanistan: +16 cases (now 110) 🔹 Alabama, US: +56 cases (now 587), +2 deaths (now 3) 🔹 Albania: +12 cases (now 186), +2 deaths (now 8), +14 recoveries (now 31) [... want %more?] | 23:50 |
| LjL | well guys i remember reading this but honestly i have no idea where so if you prefer to just ignore it, do :P | 23:52 |
| berndj | skincell3[m], why florida? because of all the old people? | 23:54 |
| dzho | !risk 77 | 23:55 |
| Scarecr0w | US now has ~101k cases? Flipping hell. Scaryyyy! | 23:55 |
| CovBot | I estimate a 77 year old patient sick with COVID-19 has a 93.7% chance of survival, a 41.1% likelihood of needing to go to hospital, a 15.5% risk of needing intensive care there and a 6.3% chance of death. | 23:55 |
| berndj | what is "needing to go to hospital but not intensive care"? does that imply ventilator use or not? | 23:57 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 22:55 UTC: /u/slakmehl: 4pm update on United States data from the Covid Tracking Project reports the following one day % changes: — from r/WorldNews at 22:55: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/a0hVNf | 23:57 |
| pwr22 | ICU Vs non-icu | 23:58 |
| skincell3[m] | berndj: I was listening to Trump, and he mentioned how the governor was Florida was pissed at people from New York coming there. Which made me think that it is more prevalent there than thought. | 23:58 |
| IronY | TIL Ontario Canada will never have recovery numbers (officialy) | 23:59 |
| IronY | as we now deem 14 days recovered | 23:59 |
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