| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 22:55 UTC: Cuomo: Trump New York quarantine would be 'federal declaration of war': Trump: ‘There’s a possibility we’ll do a quarantine, short-term’ New York governor points out plan would likely be illegal Global coronavirus outbreak: live Read all our coronavirus coverage Andrew Cuomo, the New York governor, warned on [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/Wh2x0O | 00:01 |
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| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +899 cases (now 661715), +25 deaths (now 30676) 🔸 US: +887 cases (now 122246), +23 deaths (now 2047) 🔸 Colorado, US: +327 cases (now 2061), +13 deaths (now 44) 🔸 California, US: +529 cases (now 5509), +10 deaths (now 114) 🔹 Alabama, US: +58 cases (now 702), +1 deaths (now 4) 🔹 Algeria: +45 cases (now 454), +3 deaths (now 29), +2 recoveries (now 31) [... want %more?] | 00:05 |
| AimHere | There's a plague of covid dashboards and covid mathematical models | 00:11 |
| mefistofeles | oriba: been there | 00:12 |
| LjL | Birrosso, i said i *am* using an ad blocker... although, i also end up having to avoid visiting a few sites that block my blocker | 00:18 |
| oxalis | I've found that it's often possible to block the blocker blocking elements with my blocker | 00:20 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +1035 cases (now 662750), +155 deaths (now 30831), +1 recoveries (now 141464) 🔸 US: +1025 cases (now 123271), +155 deaths (now 2202) 🔸 New York, US: +998 cases (now 53316), +155 deaths (now 883) 🔹 Alabama, US: +58 cases (now 702), +1 deaths (now 4) 🔹 Algeria: +45 cases (now 454), +3 deaths (now 29), +2 recoveries (now 31) [... want %more?] | 00:20 |
| oxalis | Our local paper has a horrible take-over popup layer if you run a blocker, so I blocked the DOM elements that popup. | 00:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 23:07 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: France death toll passes 2,000 while 90,000 cases confirmed in Italy — from r/WorldNews at 23:07: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/VmuicT | 00:22 |
| oriba | enough for today... | 00:23 |
| oxalis | There's a video going around by an MD about how to safely unpack groceries.... Is this the sort of channel that welcomes links like that? LjL ? | 00:23 |
| LjL | oxalis, sure | 00:23 |
| LjL | seems pretty related | 00:23 |
| oxalis | https://www.fox7austin.com/news/sanitize-groceries-discard-takeout-containers-immediately-doctor-demonstrates-sterile-technique | 00:23 |
| danielp3344 | %data maryland | 00:27 |
| Brainstorm | danielp3344: In Maryland, US, there are 992 cases, 5 deaths (0.5% of cases), 0 recoveries as of March 28, 23:16Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 00:27 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 23:26 UTC: /u/slakmehl: World Health Organization (WHO) su Twitter: "FACT: #COVID19 is NOT airborne. The #coronavirus is mainly transmitted through droplets generated when an infected person coughs, sneezes or speaks. To protect yourself: -keep 1m distance from others -disinfect surfaces frequently -wash/rub your 👐 -avoid [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/4oV1KV | 00:28 |
| oxalis | I keep hearing that it IS airborne and that it's NOT airborne... From official sources. | 00:29 |
| oxalis | what's the straight dope on this? | 00:30 |
| ecks | it can aerosolize when invasive procedures such as intubation and bronchoscopy is conducted | 00:30 |
| IronY | ^ | 00:31 |
| oxalis | what about a hard cough or sneeze? | 00:31 |
| IronY | I mean yes you would be worse off walking into a cloud of that then you would not walking into a cloud of that | 00:31 |
| IronY | the definition of airborne though would mean we all basically already have it | 00:32 |
| Spec | danielp3344: are you from marylandia | 00:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 23:28 UTC: Coronavirus Australia live news: Covid-19 cases rise above 3,600 – latest updates: Covid-19 cases rise above 3,600, and the national death toll stands at 14, as Scott Morrison prepares to outline next stage of government response and NSW government warns parks may be closed if people continue to break social [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/DbqsuH | 00:35 |
| Spec | %data virginia | 00:36 |
| Brainstorm | Spec: In Virginia, US, there are 739 cases, 17 deaths (2.3% of cases), 0 recoveries as of March 28, 23:33Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 00:36 |
| nichos[m] | %data florida | 00:47 |
| Brainstorm | nichos[m]: In Florida, US, there are 4038 cases, 56 deaths (1.4% of cases), 0 recoveries as of March 28, 23:33Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 00:47 |
| nichos[m] | %data georgia | 00:47 |
| Brainstorm | nichos[m]: In all areas, Georgia, there are 90 cases, 0 deaths (0.0% of cases), 14 recoveries as of March 28, 23:33Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Georgia for time series data. | 00:47 |
| nichos[m] | is that state of GA, or country of GA? (I live on the FL/GA border) | 00:47 |
| Spec | %data new jersey | 00:47 |
| Brainstorm | Spec: In New Jersey, US, there are 11124 cases, 140 deaths (1.3% of cases), 0 recoveries as of March 28, 23:33Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 00:47 |
| oxalis | %data texas | 00:48 |
| Brainstorm | oxalis: In Texas, US, there are 2329 cases, 30 deaths (1.3% of cases), 0 recoveries as of March 28, 23:33Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 00:48 |
| Spec | nichos[m]: that GA was the country of GA | 00:48 |
| nichos[m] | thanks - i realized that after it was only 90 | 00:48 |
| nichos[m] | seems like the US is mostly 1.3% death rate | 00:49 |
| oxalis | Virgina might be populated with older folks | 00:49 |
| nichos[m] | %data new york | 00:50 |
| Brainstorm | nichos[m]: In New York, US, there are 53316 cases, 883 deaths (1.7% of cases), 0 recoveries as of March 28, 23:43Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 00:50 |
| Spec | oxalis: not particularly | 00:50 |
| nichos[m] | bigger sample size and still below 2%, interesting | 00:50 |
| Spec | unless 45-55 is old :P | 00:51 |
| nichos[m] | 45 is old....for the next 5 years only | 00:51 |
| LjL | Spec, that being the average age? | 00:52 |
| LjL | i really should have average ages together with the population figures in the bot | 00:53 |
| LjL | not that highlighting ubLIX has anything to do with that | 00:53 |
| Spec | LjL: no, there are two humps in our population | 00:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 23:49 UTC: /u/slakmehl: The Guardian su Twitter: "Fruit and veg ‘will run out’ unless Britain charters planes to fly in farm workers from eastern Europe https://t.co/QXFmRIle7l" — from r/WorldNews at 23:49: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/yt1Kk9 | 00:54 |
| Spec | https://worldpopulationreview.com/states/virginia-population/ | 00:54 |
| LjL | ubLIX, i managed to have to cover my ears for a passing siren despite utter silence during today's walk | 00:54 |
| LjL | maybe it was a covid ambulance ;( | 00:54 |
| LjL | in elementary school my teacher would always have us make the sign of the cross when we heard an ambulance | 00:55 |
| LjL | totally secular teacher | 00:55 |
| LjL | i still have to tell my brain "no don't do that it's stupid and it doesn't help the person at all" | 00:55 |
| ubLIX | oof, Spec, that looks like a nicer data source than the ones i was looking at | 01:01 |
| LjL | oh right, i was supposed to click on that, i forgot | 01:01 |
| LjL | Spec, virginia has less population than lombardy and | 01:02 |
| LjL | %wa area of virginia, italy | 01:02 |
| Brainstorm | LjL, Wolfram|Alpha (Virginia | total area | Italy | total area): Results: Virginia | 110800 km^2 (square kilometers) Italy | 301340 km^2 (square kilometers) (world rank: 73rd) → https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=area+of+virginia%2C+italy | 01:02 |
| LjL | %wa area of virginia, lombardy | 01:02 |
| Brainstorm | LjL, Wolfram|Alpha (Virginia | total area | Lombardy, Italy | area): Results: Virginia | 110800 km^2 (square kilometers) Lombardy, Italy | 23859 km^2 (square kilometers) (7.9% of total for Italy) → https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=area+of+virginia%2C+lombardy | 01:02 |
| LjL | only slightly smaller | 01:02 |
| LjL | but to be fair most of them are in the same place | 01:03 |
| LjL | Spec, also your median age is closer to china's than to italy's :P | 01:04 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +269 cases (now 663019), +22 deaths (now 30853), +480 recoveries (now 141944) 🔸 China: +45 cases (now 81439), +5 deaths (now 3300), +477 recoveries (now 75448) 🔸 Quebec, Canada: +474 cases (now 2498), +4 deaths (now 22) 🔸 New South Wales, Australia: +212 cases (now 1617), +1 deaths (now 8) 🔹 Alabama, US: +58 cases (now 702), +1 deaths (now 4) [... want %more?] | 01:05 |
| COVID-19Hangouts | %help | 01:06 |
| Brainstorm | COVID-19Hangouts: Hi, I am LjL's bot! Say %modules or %commands to me in private to see my features. | 01:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 00:04 UTC: New York Gov. Cuomo says Trump has no authority to impose quarantine: 'It would be illegal': New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Saturday he does not believe President Donald Trump has the authority to impose a quarantine on New York, New Jersey and parts of Connecticut to stop the spread of the coronavirus. [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/Qhigao | 01:06 |
| LjL | or also don't, really, most of the features don't work | 01:06 |
| LjL | will this be a new american civil war then? | 01:06 |
| ubLIX | hrm. actually it seems also to be relying on UN World Population Prospects (2019 Revision) | 01:06 |
| COVID-19Hangouts | Lol, alright will do | 01:06 |
| ubLIX | it's coronavirus page seems to be a tad out of date | 01:07 |
| LjL | ubLIX, as in, yesterday? | 01:07 |
| LjL | ubLIX, also have you scraped all that population data? | 01:07 |
| ubLIX | it's showing "As of March 13, 2020..." to me | 01:08 |
| ubLIX | LjL: which data, precisely? | 01:08 |
| LjL | ubLIX, your earlier pastebin | 01:08 |
| ubLIX | mostly came from here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population_(United_Nations) | 01:10 |
| ubLIX | but this might be of interest (but more work to extract parts of interest): https://population.un.org/wpp/Download/Standard/CSV/ | 01:11 |
| ubLIX | second link shows downloads for age distributions in 5 year or interpolated 1 year intervals | 01:12 |
| ubLIX | LjL: why did you want average age? | 01:15 |
| IronY | Closed house party at my place tonight | 01:17 |
| IronY | None of you are invited | 01:17 |
| LjL | ubLIX, it is kind of relevant to how many people die | 01:17 |
| LjL | ubLIX, but i probably meant median age anyway, that's what usually is given | 01:18 |
| ubLIX | so, for all 250 so countries/territories, then.. | 01:20 |
| fester | what time IronY | 01:25 |
| IronY | 26:00 tm | 01:25 |
| fester | i will the m00nshine | 01:26 |
| fester | bring | 01:26 |
| IronY | Sweet, I got take away bags with toilet paper and hand sanitizer for the guests | 01:26 |
| LjL | ubLIX, don't really do that | 01:28 |
| LjL | ubLIX, i'm not even sure that's the best metric | 01:28 |
| fester | you can make more saitizer with the moonshine lol | 01:28 |
| fester | sanitizer | 01:28 |
| danielp3344 | <Spec "Daniel Peterson: are you from ma"> indeed | 01:29 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 00:26 UTC: (news): Trump will not seek to impose quarantine on New York, New Jersey and parts of Connecticut — from r/WorldNews at 00:26: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/tNCHzp | 01:31 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +209 cases (now 663228), +2 deaths (now 30855), +6 recoveries (now 141950) 🔹 Alabama, US: +58 cases (now 702), +1 deaths (now 4) 🔹 Algeria: +45 cases (now 454), +3 deaths (now 29), +2 recoveries (now 31) 🔹 Andorra: +41 cases (now 308) 🔹 Angola: +1 cases (now 5) 🔹 Argentina: +55 cases (now 745), +2 deaths (now 19) [... want %more?] | 01:35 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 00:28 UTC: Coronavirus Australia live news: Scott Morrison details $1.1bn health and family violence package: Covid-19 cases rise above 3,600, and the national death toll stands at 14, as Scott Morrison prepares to outline next stage of government response and NSW government warns parks may be closed if people continue to break [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/DbqsuH | 01:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus* at 00:36 UTC: Coronavirus: Join our official user-moderated Discord Server! :D — from r/WorldNews at 00:36: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/tNfJs2 | 01:43 |
| fester | https://external-preview.redd.it/Br0D6A1cDVZdnJARzB1QOWefuHEeVQtfKXwbpd9uY4Y.gif?format=mp4&s=a9e9ef0d6b0674fc552be3ee1af5d4f45b64e49f | 01:51 |
| Painter | I can't believe that Trump said that he has a feeling that NY won't need that many ventilators so he won't send them from the federal reserve. | 01:54 |
| Painter | He's literally letting people die because he had a feeling. | 01:54 |
| bin_bash | he's a piece of shit who holds a grudge against new york because the state is sick of his scams | 01:55 |
| bin_bash | state of ny put up with so much shit from trump and he returns no love at all because he's a piece of shit | 01:55 |
| bin_bash | but that's off-topic for this channel | 01:55 |
| fester | Techlife News - March 28, 2020.pdf | 01:56 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 00:50 UTC: New York Gov. Cuomo says Trump has no authority to impose quarantine: 'It would be illegal': New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Saturday he does not believe President Donald Trump has the authority to impose a quarantine on New York, New Jersey and parts of Connecticut to stop the spread of the coronavirus. [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/Qhigao | 01:56 |
| fester | https://www.digi77.com/linux-kodachi/ | 01:58 |
| Painter | I don't really know why he's got a problem with NY, however, that being said, if a governor is sitting down with medical professionals who are telling you "This is what we need, because it'll take two weeks to get here, and we don't have two weeks, we need it now"...and the president, that guy in the White House who is supposed to care about the Americans is not willing to help because of his feeling? That's so unacceptable. | 01:58 |
| Painter | Honestly, every state should be imposing self-isolation. "Unless you need groceries or medication, or are working with emergency services, you are advised that you need to stay at home". | 01:59 |
| Painter | That's the only way that they'll get rid of this | 03:00 |
| darkunix | that's gonna happen eventually, it just takes a huge smack in the face first in some places | 03:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 01:00 UTC: /u/slakmehl: Michigan reports nearly 1,000 new COVID-19 cases, largest daily jump yet — from r/WorldNews at 01:00: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/KPIwrG | 03:02 |
| Painter | Somebody in the vice-president's office has it. I wonder if Trump had thoughts about what would happen to him or his family if he got it and took it to them | 03:04 |
| airgap | it will be hard to stop myself from laughing maniacally if/when trump gets it. | 03:05 |
| airgap | because fuck that guy. | 03:05 |
| airgap | this virus very readily shows who has empathy and who doesn't. | 03:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 01:01 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: NY Gov balks at federal quarantine talk, CDC warns on chloroquine — from r/WorldNews at 01:01: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/8Vp8DA | 03:08 |
| LjL | <bin_bash> but that's off-topic for this channel ← no, actually it's not, but don't call people pieces of shit, *even if* they're Trump. that's going to be hard sometimes but if you criticize their specific policies on and around COVID, instead of just calling them names, it will feel better to the body & mind eventually | 03:12 |
| LjL | (maybe) | 03:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 01:10 UTC: New York Gov. Cuomo says Trump has no authority to impose quarantine: 'It would be illegal': New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Saturday he does not believe President Donald Trump has the authority to impose a quarantine on New York, New Jersey and parts of Connecticut to stop the spread of the coronavirus. [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/Qhigao | 03:14 |
| bin_bash | LjL: no, it's not his "policies" it's him as a person (i have first hand experience) | 03:17 |
| LjL | fair enough | 03:19 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 01:15 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia live news: two more deaths reported in Queensland and Victoria as cases in NSW rise by 174 — from r/WorldNews at 01:15: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/DbqsuH | 03:21 |
| darkunix | I haven't seen or heard anyone bring this up yet, but this disease seems to be really bad for older people, and older people are a big voting bloc for Trump | 03:23 |
| darkunix | maybe someone should point that out to him | 03:24 |
| LjL | i assume someone has | 03:26 |
| LjL | i *have* heard people bringing this up | 03:26 |
| LjL | at this point many old people are going to die anyway | 03:27 |
| LjL | so "politically" other things may count more | 03:27 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 01:19 UTC: NY Gov balks at federal quarantine talk, CDC warns on chloroquine: President Donald Trump said he will not seek to impose a quarantine on New York, New Jersey and certain parts of Connecticut, after floating the idea earlier in the day. — from r/WorldNews at 01:19: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/8Vp8DA | 03:27 |
| LjL | that is a pretty dry thing to say | 03:27 |
| LjL | but i didn't make the pandemic | 03:27 |
| darkunix | is it what it is at this point | 03:27 |
| swift110 | hey all | 03:30 |
| LjL | hey you | 03:30 |
| Painter | yup airgap. | 03:31 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +316 cases (now 663544), +8 deaths (now 30863), +2 recoveries (now 141952) 🔹 Alabama, US: +58 cases (now 702), +1 deaths (now 4) 🔹 Algeria: +45 cases (now 454), +3 deaths (now 29), +2 recoveries (now 31) 🔹 Andorra: +41 cases (now 308) 🔹 Angola: +1 cases (now 5) 🔹 Argentina: +55 cases (now 745), +2 deaths (now 19) [... want %more?] | 03:35 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 01:33 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: China reports 45 new cases, of which 44 were 'imported' — from r/WorldNews at 01:33: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/53zslH | 03:39 |
| LjL | now China is gloating a bit too much on this "imported" thing! | 03:44 |
| LjL | you started it remember?! | 03:44 |
| bin_bash | yeah considering they started it | 03:44 |
| bin_bash | and the global spread is entirely their fault | 03:44 |
| LjL | now i wouldn't go that far, most western countries behaved like they were in complete and utter denial. some are still doing it | 03:46 |
| Albright | Anti-CCP people are trying to get "CCP virus" to catch on. | 03:47 |
| bin_bash | true but it wouldnt have been so bad if they hadnt covered it up in the first place | 03:47 |
| bin_bash | i thnk wuhan virus is sufficient and accurate, like spanish flu | 03:47 |
| Albright | you RACIST | 03:47 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +268 cases (now 663812), +10 deaths (now 30873) 🔸 US: +265 cases (now 123578), +10 deaths (now 2221) 🔹 Alabama, US: +58 cases (now 702), +1 deaths (now 4) 🔹 Algeria: +45 cases (now 454), +3 deaths (now 29), +2 recoveries (now 31) 🔹 Andorra: +41 cases (now 308) 🔹 Angola: +1 cases (now 5) 🔹 Argentina: +55 cases (now 745), +2 deaths (now 19) [... want %more?] | 03:50 |
| LjL | bin_bash, spanish flu was utterly inaccurate, so... | 03:52 |
| LjL | To maintain morale, World War I censors minimized early reports of illness and mortality in Germany, the United Kingdom, France, and the United States.[6][failed verification] Papers were free to report the epidemic's effects in neutral Spain, such as the grave illness of King Alfonso XIII, and these stories created a false impression of Spain as especially hard hit.[7] This gave rise to the pandemic's nickname, "Spanish flu".[8][9] Historical and | 03:53 |
| LjL | epidemiological data are inadequate to identify with certainty the pandemic's geographic origin, with varying views as to the origin.[1] | 03:53 |
| LjL | so the reason it's called "Spanish" is that *others* hid its existence | 03:53 |
| LjL | which i think goes pretty contrary to your rationale for calling it Wuhan / Chinese or similar | 03:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 01:45 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia live news: two more deaths reported in Queensland and Victoria as cases in NSW rise by 174 — from r/WorldNews at 01:45: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/DbqsuH | 03:56 |
| bin_bash | LjL: i know my point is nobody was ever liek "wow that's racist against white people" | 03:57 |
| AimHere | Were Spaniards racially abused and harassed in 1918 due to 'Spanish' flu? | 03:58 |
| LjL | bin_bash, the WHO's point was to generally avoid stigmatizing any particular place in future epidemics, though | 03:58 |
| LjL | i don't think they *knew* the next one would come from China and make people call each other racists | 03:58 |
| bin_bash | no they didnt but people still call it spanish flu | 04:06 |
| swift110 | hey all | 04:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 02:15 UTC: /u/slakmehl: Aaron E. Carroll su Twitter: "Look at this chart. This is # of deaths, so no testing/denominator concern. The rate of increase is exponential. Today we hit 2000. In a week, it's on track to be 10,000. A week after that, if we don't slow, it could be closer to that in a day. 10,000 deaths a day. In 2 [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/nJFLcX | 04:21 |
| metreo | !data | 04:23 |
| metreo | !corona | 04:23 |
| CoronaBot | Total cases: 07663,740 (+662), deaths: 0430,879 (+23), recovered: 09142,183. Active cases: 04490,678, 02465,471 are in a mild condition, 0425,207 are in a serious condition. Case fatality rate: 0417.84%, mortality: 044.65%. Case rate: 0466,757/day, death rate: 043,517/day. Last update: 0519m ago. | 04:23 |
| Q8Host | shit is real | 04:24 |
| Q8Host | %data kuwait | 04:24 |
| Brainstorm | Q8Host: In all areas, Kuwait, there are 235 cases, 0 deaths (0.0% of cases), 64 recoveries as of March 29, 02:04Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Kuwait for time series data. | 04:24 |
| swift110 | hmm | 04:24 |
| swift110 | wow | 04:24 |
| swift110 | nice | 04:24 |
| swift110 | %data guyana | 04:24 |
| Brainstorm | swift110: In all areas, Guyana, there are 8 cases, 1 deaths (12.5% of cases), 0 recoveries as of March 29, 00:05Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Guyana for time series data. | 04:24 |
| Q8Host | crossing fingers to stay low | 04:25 |
| swift110 | %data suriname | 04:25 |
| Brainstorm | swift110: In all areas, Suriname, there are 8 cases, 0 deaths (0.0% of cases), 0 recoveries as of March 29, 00:05Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Suriname for time series data. | 04:25 |
| swift110 | hmm i need something more remote | 04:25 |
| swift110 | %data aruba | 04:26 |
| Brainstorm | swift110: In all areas, Aruba, there are 46 cases, 0 deaths (0.0% of cases), 1 recoveries as of March 29, 02:04Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Aruba for time series data. | 04:26 |
| swift110 | one more %data st helena | 04:26 |
| swift110 | %data azores | 04:26 |
| Brainstorm | swift110: Sorry, azores not found. Either there aren't cases, or it's under a different name. | 04:26 |
| swift110 | ok | 04:26 |
| electricprism[m] | %data hawaii | 04:35 |
| Brainstorm | electricprism[m]: In Hawaii, US, there are 151 cases, 0 deaths (0.0% of cases), 0 recoveries as of March 29, 00:05Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 04:35 |
| swift110 | wow | 04:38 |
| swift110 | not bad | 04:38 |
| swift110 | so where ever the people didnt flock to from china are the places least affected | 04:38 |
| fructose | https://i.imgur.com/CpLCao6.png | 04:38 |
| fructose | LjL: Significant improvement over there | 04:38 |
| LjL | fructose, yes, i see two big problems in the near future though | 04:39 |
| LjL | southern regions may still go exponential soon, because aiui, people are still defying the lockdowns as they don't "get it" and see it as a "northern problem" | 04:39 |
| LjL | (sigh) | 04:39 |
| LjL | and then, Milan | 04:39 |
| LjL | i might be biased towards that due to living in it | 04:39 |
| LjL | but Milan has been kind of spared despite being in Lombardy | 04:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 02:27 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia live news: two more deaths reported in Queensland and Victoria as cases in NSW rise by 174 — from r/WorldNews at 02:27: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/DbqsuH | 04:40 |
| LjL | but now it's going up | 04:40 |
| LjL | and if it goes up a lot, that's a bit of a problem | 04:40 |
| LjL | it is by far the most densed populated part of Lombardy, which in turn is by far the most densely populated part of Italy... except for Naples possibly, which does have a fair few cases for being in the south | 04:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health at 02:46 UTC: Coronavirus: Things will get worse, PM warns in letter to Britons: Measures to target coronavirus may get tougher, Boris Johnson says in letter sent to every UK home. — from r/WorldNews at 02:46: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/6R6QA7 | 04:52 |
| Xip | Godspeed | 05:02 |
| Jigsy | I don't read crap that comes through my door, I don't intend to start now. | 05:03 |
| LjL | ubLIX, ↑ | 05:03 |
| ubLIX | saw it. | 05:03 |
| Jigsy | It's bad enough the gov't has my cellphone number. ;_; | 05:03 |
| ubLIX | fomites delivered direct to the door of every household in UK! | 05:04 |
| LjL | ubLIX, am i mean to read that as "I just got infected so now you'll have to face tougher measures because I feel a bit like shit with this fever and it's not fair" | 05:05 |
| ubLIX | very mean! you should direct your foreign office to issue an apology to Boris personally from a safe distance | 05:06 |
| LjL | i'll go tomorrow and meet a few people, sign contracts, shake hands, and eventually get it done safely | 05:06 |
| ubLIX | after a modest interlude of illness and some light self isolation | 05:07 |
| Spec | ubLIX: do you assume everything delivered is covered in coronavirus! | 05:07 |
| LjL | Spec, i do! i assume that's still better than going to a supermarket | 05:08 |
| Spec | for sure | 05:08 |
| ubLIX | i suppose the probability is low but i act as though everything is by separation of activities and hand washing | 05:09 |
| LjL | contingo doesn't like this guy and said he sees no main takeaway from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxAaO2rsdIs but i do think my main takeaway is what it always was: "close supermarkets and public transport" | 05:09 |
| LjL | but then maybe everyone sees his own agenda in whatever | 05:09 |
| LjL | ubLIX, but you do not disinfect packaging that ends up in the fridge etc? | 05:09 |
| Spec | closing supermarkets sounds less than ideal | 05:09 |
| Spec | i like to eat food | 05:10 |
| ubLIX | LjL: but your own people said delivery to every household is out of the question! | 05:10 |
| LjL | Spec, but you also like to get it delivered | 05:10 |
| LjL | ubLIX, well i think they're stupid | 05:10 |
| Spec | i agree | 05:10 |
| Spec | conscription time! | 05:10 |
| LjL | and i think if they don't do what i say we'll all get it anyway | 05:10 |
| LjL | well we have an army already | 05:10 |
| LjL | let them deliver my goods | 05:10 |
| LjL | instead of fining me for violating the lockdown | 05:10 |
| LjL | i bet they can't even fill in the form properly | 05:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 02:59 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia live news: two more deaths reported in Queensland and Victoria as cases in NSW rise by 174 — from r/WorldNews at 02:59: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/DbqsuH | 05:11 |
| Spec | LjL: did you get fined? :P | 05:11 |
| LjL | Spec, no, but i think this is like the fifth time we print different forms because they keep changing them | 05:11 |
| LjL | Spec, how many trees is 60 million A4 sheets * 5? | 05:12 |
| ubLIX | LjL: i leave things for days and wipe down the things i want to use immediately | 05:12 |
| Spec | LjL: at least 4 | 05:12 |
| Spec | ubLIX: how many days? | 05:12 |
| Spec | ubLIX: i have a 9-day quarantine cycle! | 05:12 |
| LjL | Spec, anyway, i had a semi-illegal walk, since my understanding is the parts where i was closer than 300m to my home were legal, but then i came home and TV was saying "DO NOT jog, DO NOT have walks" | 05:12 |
| ubLIX | 9 days? on stuff you bring into the house? | 05:12 |
| LjL | and that made me feel a little disheartened | 05:12 |
| Spec | ubLIX: yes | 05:13 |
| Spec | ubLIX: unless i sanitize it | 05:13 |
| LjL | ubLIX, we have a 15-day cycle on... having food delivered in the first place | 05:13 |
| LjL | so i'm sure it is possible to plan for 9 days :P | 05:13 |
| ubLIX | it's 9 days for plastic, isn't it? | 05:14 |
| LjL | why not just disinfect everything though | 05:14 |
| LjL | it's a bit boring | 05:14 |
| Spec | ubLIX: i wasn't convinced of any source of truth | 05:14 |
| LjL | but far from impossible | 05:14 |
| LjL | my parents (and i) have been doing it | 05:14 |
| bin_bash | i disinfect everything | 05:15 |
| ubLIX | bit boring. i have plenty of space to leave things out of sight and contact for days | 05:15 |
| LjL | despite my initial predictions that they wouldn't have agreed to that | 05:15 |
| ubLIX | like tinned food | 05:15 |
| LjL | well fair enough. apartment here, so priorities may differ | 05:15 |
| Spec | LjL: because it forces me to keep fooods | 05:15 |
| Spec | and yeah, plenty of space in basement | 05:15 |
| LjL | i need to knock myself asleep | 05:16 |
| ubLIX | how exponential is the viable virion count drop-off on surfaces? do we have any idea of a half-life? | 05:16 |
| LjL | hmmmmmm | 05:16 |
| LjL | wasn't i reading something to that effect earlier today | 05:16 |
| LjL | but i think it was about how many virions remained alive after baking masks | 05:16 |
| LjL | not surfaces | 05:16 |
| Spec | haha | 05:16 |
| LjL | "several days" seems reasonable to me | 05:18 |
| ubLIX | wonder if this letter will have written on the outside "DISINFECT BEFORE OPENING" | 05:18 |
| LjL | if you have the space for that, just do it | 05:18 |
| ubLIX | "AND AFTER OPENING" | 05:18 |
| ubLIX | "ACTUALLY JUST BURN IT" | 05:18 |
| LjL | burning does tend to kill the virionses | 05:19 |
| LjL | so now you know how to rid Johnson of his virus | 05:19 |
| Spec | LjL: i will burn all mail | 05:21 |
| PlanckWalk | Most mass mail-outs arrive having touched only the hands of a local post worker. Printing, enveloping, distribution, sorting, all machine handled. | 05:22 |
| PlanckWalk | But even that last step is one to be concerned about. | 05:22 |
| ubLIX | your friendly local postie, the arch super spreader | 05:24 |
| IndoAnon | LjL: what's the temperature of your garage or closet? still below 10°C? | 05:25 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health at 03:39 UTC: Coronavirus: Things will get worse, PM warns in letter to Britons: Measures to target coronavirus may get tougher, Boris Johnson says in letter sent to every UK home. — from r/WorldNews at 03:39: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/6R6QA7 | 05:44 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 03:48 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia live news: two more deaths reported in Queensland and Victoria as cases in NSW rise by 174 — from r/WorldNews at 03:48: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/DbqsuH | 06:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health at 04:08 UTC: Coronavirus: Things will get worse, PM warns in letter to Britons: Measures to target coronavirus may get tougher, Boris Johnson says in letter sent to every UK home. — from r/WorldNews at 04:08: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/6R6QA7 | 06:16 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 04:20 UTC: Coronavirus live updates: Cases globally surpass 660,000, with over 30,000 deaths: The U.S. remained the country with the highest number of cases at 124,377, data compiled by the Johns Hopkins University showed. — from r/WorldNews at 04:20: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/53zslH | 06:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 04:33 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia live news: two more deaths reported in Queensland and Victoria as cases in NSW rise by 174 — from r/WorldNews at 04:33: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/DbqsuH | 06:41 |
| ryouma | my gf will never take decontamination etc. seriously. she views it as something she has to stand her ground on and not do. and when she does it, it is going to be random dabs, and forgetting to do it, and getting it all over her clothes, and touching her face | 06:45 |
| ryouma | what is it about italy north and south? is this some rivalry or usa north/south kind of thing? | 06:45 |
| ryouma | are they different cultures? | 06:46 |
| xionbox[m] | ryouma: yes. In the US is rural versus urban places mostly, which is strongly correlated with little education and high education in this country | 06:48 |
| xionbox[m] | And most rural places are in the south | 06:48 |
| aeth | ryouma: Northern Italy was a bunch of different city states and duchies and other things. Central Italy was the Papal States. Southern Italy was divided between Kingdom of Sicily and Kingdom of Naples, and eventually politically united into "The Two Sicilies". | 06:48 |
| aeth | ryouma: So until the reunification of Italy, the north was dozens of countries, the center was a theocracy, and the south was politically unified. | 06:49 |
| berndj | xionbox[m], is this like the "global south" that india is part of, that doesn't correspond exactly with the geographic south? | 06:49 |
| ryouma | xionbox[m]: talkign about italy or usa? | 06:50 |
| xionbox[m] | berndj: I don't know about India, but in the US there are states which fall into this "south" category although they aren't south at all | 06:51 |
| xionbox[m] | ryouma: I'm talking about USA | 06:51 |
| aeth | ryouma: The cultural division in Italy along north/south lines is more or less reflected by the political division in the northern part and the political lack of division in the southern part in 1796: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_unification#/media/File:Italy_1796_AD.png | 06:51 |
| aeth | But that also held in 1494: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_unification#/media/File:Italy_1494_AD.png | 06:51 |
| ryouma | so what characterizes teh difference in today's terms? | 06:51 |
| berndj | north rich, south poor | 06:52 |
| aeth | I'm guessing centuries of being politically separated lead cultural differences, most strongly reflected by those that were under Naples/Sicily and those that weren't. | 06:52 |
| aeth | And economic differences, yes. | 06:52 |
| aeth | The north had the Renaissance. | 06:52 |
| berndj | does rome count as north or south? or as its own thing? | 06:53 |
| aeth | Mostly but not entirely north, I think. | 06:54 |
| ryouma | i always thought it was just italians until this channel | 06:54 |
| ryouma | naive | 06:54 |
| berndj | i really liked italy, when i was there it felt like a place i could feel at home in | 06:55 |
| tinwhiskers | ubLIX: OK, you now have the option of scaling by country population on the graphs on offloop.net. If a country/region doesn't have a known population it won't be displayed when that option is one. I've also added an option to make the graph non-cummulative. | 06:55 |
| tinwhiskers | *when that option is on | 06:56 |
| aeth | you can see the north/south division in Italy in e.g. the republic referendum, although there Rome is with the south: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Italy#/media/File:Italian_referendum_1946_support_for_republic.svg | 06:56 |
| pepee | from #biology : <Ashstar> https://www.uchealth.org/today/zinc-could-help-diminish-extent-of-covid-19/ <Ashstar> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC353050/ | 06:56 |
| rajrajraj | My father has headache and he feels he has fever. Checked temperature. Turned out normal | 06:58 |
| FieldSobers | yes no need to panic | 06:59 |
| rajrajraj | Ok | 07:00 |
| aeth | A lot of places have north/south divisions, but in the UK the south's the rich part. France also has it. Egypt's probably the oldest civilization that has had it (going back quite a long time). | 07:02 |
| fester | https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/fn3j0w/how_to_stop_a_virus_from_spreading/ | 07:03 |
| ryouma | is this related to ... why would it even be relevant to the us which is so young? | 07:03 |
| aeth | The USA is older than united Italy by about a century. | 07:04 |
| ryouma | i mean, i was thinking jared diamond but it can't be relevant | 07:04 |
| ryouma | sure but the non-natives are not | 07:04 |
| fester | true when the old are dead more for the young | 07:04 |
| aeth | ryouma: Well, I guess you could say that climate leads to different industries and some are more profitable than others. | 07:05 |
| ubLIX | tinwhiskers: nice! very interesting to see non-cumulative too. i'll have to get my nose back to the grind stone to gather more sub-region population data | 07:06 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +635 cases (now 664447), +18 deaths (now 30891), +408 recoveries (now 142360) 🔹 Australia: +160 cases (now 3969), +2 deaths (now 16) 🔹 Bhutan: +1 cases (now 4) 🔹 California, US: +110 cases (now 5659), +1 deaths (now 120) 🔹 Cambodia: +4 cases (now 103), +8 recoveries (now 21) 🔹 Canada: +112 recoveries (now 508) 🔹 Grenada: +2 cases (now 9) [... want %more?] | 07:07 |
| ryouma | even the tiny islands | 07:07 |
| ryouma | and bhutan :( | 07:07 |
| ryouma | who were proactive | 07:07 |
| ryouma | and ian lipkin which is really disturbing | 07:08 |
| aeth | this definitely feels like a round of that Plague Inc game where the virus is winning... | 07:09 |
| _io_ | we need a miracle. | 07:11 |
| _io_ | science does those sometimes tho so. it could happen. | 07:11 |
| tinwhiskers | I think we should look to *real* solutions! | 07:11 |
| _io_ | like science. miracles of science. | 07:12 |
| PlanckWalk | Well, it got to Madagascar, so ... game over! | 07:12 |
| _io_ | lol! | 07:12 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 05:09 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Cases globally surpass 660,000, Singapore confirms third death — from r/WorldNews at 05:09: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/53zslH | 07:13 |
| IronY | %title https://www.theonion.com/department-of-interior-announces-birds-will-continue-go-1842528085?fbclid=IwAR3Z4fotoWNSL6TP_o6MOyZ9NyWjk-KKm3UwBVZDUy3RllWbJl_ZqcvmfWo | 07:15 |
| Brainstorm | IronY: From www.theonion.com: Department Of Interior Announces Birds Will Continue Going About Regular Bird Activities During Pandemic | 07:15 |
| PlanckWalk | ... except when starving pigeons mob citizens? | 07:16 |
| IronY | I will tell you the same thing an old timey pigeon would tell you, Don't shoot the messenger | 07:17 |
| pingveno[m] | I just learned that my husband's cousin's husband does not believe in viruses. | 07:21 |
| fester | shout the pigeon kill the virus spread | 07:21 |
| fester | shoot | 07:21 |
| pingveno[m] | Also, blood pressure | 07:22 |
| xionbox[m] | pingveno: "believe in viruses ?!!" | 07:22 |
| NotSure | Dr Dan Dimke cold-arrest treatment | 07:22 |
| pingveno[m] | Yup | 07:22 |
| NotSure | viruses are dead no dna | 07:22 |
| xionbox[m] | Have you asked him to explain how viral infections spread then, pingveno ? | 07:22 |
| IronY | There are two things in life that are certain, death and taxes | 07:22 |
| IronY | and most govs just gave extensions for taxes | 07:23 |
| NotSure | vaccines | 07:23 |
| IronY | id est, we are all going to live | 07:23 |
| pingveno[m] | This is second hand. | 07:23 |
| NotSure | mandatory in china starting dec2019 | 07:23 |
| NotSure | wuhan also where Adrenochrome is harvested. | 07:23 |
| ubLIX | tinwhiskers: it might be worth truncating the decimal places on the by population data points? | 07:23 |
| upgrayedd | You got my hoe? | 07:24 |
| NotSure | ow? | 07:24 |
| pingveno[m] | I am pretty sure my in-laws got them to stop living with my husband's grandfather because they are not taking quarantine seriously. | 07:24 |
| tinwhiskers | ubLIX: Ah. yeah. Hadn't noticed that :-/ will do | 07:24 |
| NotSure | Any1 got an ELIZA Lab report and coroners report saying corona ? i could not find any | 07:24 |
| IronY | ELIZA? | 07:25 |
| NotSure | its an antibodies blood screen | 07:25 |
| IronY | ouuu | 07:25 |
| IronY | this is what I am waiting for | 07:25 |
| IronY | be nice for a test that told me 'Hey man, turns out you had this already' | 07:25 |
| NotSure | 500$us insurance never covers tests over 300$usd | 07:25 |
| IronY | I am Canadian, and insured, bring on all the tests | 07:26 |
| NotSure | eliza is also to screen for modified Lyme Bb | 07:26 |
| IronY | At this point due to boredom I am willing to pay for multiple choice tests | 07:26 |
| NotSure | u dont need them tests | 07:26 |
| IronY | Ill give you 5 bucks right now to tell me which Hogwarts House I would be sorted in | 07:26 |
| NotSure | cold-arrest treatment Dr Dan Dimke book 1980s approved in over 50 countries | 07:27 |
| NotSure | http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/ | 07:28 |
| NotSure | its a bill gates thing | 07:29 |
| IronY | ur like 2 months late to the party on this one | 07:29 |
| NotSure | been screamin this 4 3 | 07:29 |
| IronY | Fair but ur in a channel with people who go out of their way to connect to an old protocol to specifically test one thing | 07:29 |
| IronY | event 201 is far from a secret | 07:30 |
| NotSure | got a sauna, use it 3xs a day for a couple weks | 07:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 05:19 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia live news: two more deaths reported in Queensland and Victoria as cases in NSW rise by 174 — from r/WorldNews at 05:19: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/DbqsuH | 07:30 |
| IronY | lol 'get a sauna' | 07:30 |
| NotSure | its the flu | 07:30 |
| pepee | %title https://www.uchealth.org/today/zinc-could-help-diminish-extent-of-covid-19/ | 07:30 |
| Brainstorm | pepee: From www.uchealth.org: Zinc could help diminish the extent of COVID-19 - UCHealth Today | 07:30 |
| IronY | pepee: that is actually not incorrect | 07:30 |
| NotSure | no numbers of flu deaths being reported, we usually get 10x more deths from flu | 07:30 |
| IronY | get yourself some zinc + vitc losenges | 07:31 |
| NotSure | yup neg ion zinc only thou | 07:31 |
| IronY | NotSure: are you trying to say covid19 is fake right now I am confused | 07:31 |
| ubLIX | tinwhiskers: quite a few countries are now no-plot, notably China (and Hubei, although other regions of China seem ok); and maybe everywhere with fewer cases than ~Eswatini are no-plot; a few countries circa Niger look odd too; several countries around circa Mongolia are showing a decimal place on the y-axis. | 07:31 |
| NotSure | its a false flag | 07:31 |
| IronY | NotSure: it by definition cannot be a false flag | 07:31 |
| pepee | IronY, I will. btw, sources on the vitc helping? or just a general recommendation? | 07:31 |
| pepee | it's a virus, not a flag | 07:32 |
| IronY | pepee: Normally the losanges are combined with vitc, simply because there also used to prevent colds | 07:32 |
| IronY | pepee: also tastes good | 07:32 |
| pepee | IronY, ah | 07:32 |
| NotSure | its bio teror and elite msm lies. event201 | 07:32 |
| tinwhiskers | ubLIX: China is not plotting? | 07:32 |
| ubLIX | NotSure: knock that off, will you | 07:32 |
| tinwhiskers | Do you per chance have "Align cases at:" a value less than 550? | 07:32 |
| IronY | NotSure: At what point to you admit ur wrong, Pre the tube down ur throat or on ur death bed | 07:32 |
| NotSure | could be china gave thousands of bad vaccines and they are all marys | 07:32 |
| ubLIX | tinwhiskers: not for me, no. and neither are all the countries with very few cases | 07:33 |
| NotSure | typhoid | 07:33 |
| NotSure | the hospital in hawaii got caught faking pandemic lied on lokol tv bout numbers. | 07:33 |
| IronY | NotSure: take a picture of you licking a bus pole with your id, a paper that says notsure, and todays paper | 07:33 |
| tinwhiskers | ubLIX: you *sure* you don't have a value set for "Align cases at:"? | 07:33 |
| rajrajraj | Do you think Italy will cross 1k death a day | 07:33 |
| IronY | NotSure: you do that for me | 07:33 |
| rajrajraj | ? | 07:33 |
| IronY | NotSure: Ill believe you I promise | 07:33 |
| NotSure | haha, your co-intel then logic b4 authority | 07:34 |
| IronY | Guess he was not willing | 07:34 |
| ubLIX | tinwhiskers: i beg your pardon; looks like the javascript loadout has changed and i didn't update my uMatrix rules because i didn't notice the change in script | 07:34 |
| rajrajraj | Staying at home is being laziest person | 07:34 |
| IronY | also his last sentence made zero sense, but I will miss him | 07:34 |
| pepee | lol | 07:34 |
| rajrajraj | ubLIX: tech channel it is not | 07:35 |
| tinwhiskers | ubLIX: I have no idea what that means but it sounds good | 07:35 |
| IronY | I am not sure why we as an open source community dont get together and just make 1 definitive site | 07:35 |
| rajrajraj | IronY: haha | 07:36 |
| rajrajraj | You see | 07:36 |
| IronY | Everyone wants to get covid popular | 07:36 |
| ubLIX | tinwhiskers: ah, perhaps you were right; it might have been the case-alignment after all | 07:36 |
| rajrajraj | Electrons repel apart | 07:36 |
| rajrajraj | Its been like that for trillion years | 07:36 |
| IronY | In before .covid19 TLD | 07:36 |
| tinwhiskers | Yeah, because China starts at 548 cases, if you use anything less than that it can't align China so hides it. It's a bit shit. | 07:37 |
| tinwhiskers | I need to give that some more thought | 07:37 |
| rajrajraj | If you can be nucleus then you will get multiple electron based on your capacity | 07:37 |
| rajrajraj | Or you can be hydrogen like everyone else | 07:37 |
| rajrajraj | Some are as good as oxygen | 07:38 |
| IronY | Gonna be real with you all right now, I found an unopen bagged of star bucks ground coffee in the cupboard and I am properly caffinated for the first time in like 2 weeks | 07:38 |
| IronY | kinda feels like I am on a coke binge | 07:38 |
| IronY | Turns out I actually lowered my caffeine tolerance | 07:38 |
| rajrajraj | Make coffee at home? | 07:38 |
| IronY | I have just been doing like 2 single cup coffess a day | 07:38 |
| IronY | I made a pot of strong coffee | 07:39 |
| rajrajraj | Nice | 07:39 |
| rajrajraj | Is it black | 07:39 |
| rajrajraj | Or white | 07:39 |
| IronY | "Pike Roast" | 07:39 |
| IronY | I take cream and sugar | 07:39 |
| rajrajraj | What colour is that | 07:39 |
| tinwhiskers | ubLIX: I've had a few people ask to add a death rate graph, but due to the lag between infection and death these are not very accurate, particularly early on. Do you have any thoughts about how to approach that? | 07:39 |
| IronY | tinwhiskers: ull never get reliable numbers out of canada on things like confirmed | 07:40 |
| IronY | sorry recovered | 07:40 |
| rajrajraj | Reliable lol | 07:40 |
| IronY | we have decided in this province anyway, everyone is now recovered after 14 days | 07:40 |
| IronY | no follow up tests required | 07:40 |
| tinwhiskers | mmm, Canada is problem for me in other regards too | 07:40 |
| rajrajraj | Them loud? | 07:40 |
| tinwhiskers | the US isn't reporting recoveries well either. John Hopkins have stopped recording them | 07:40 |
| rajrajraj | Why is usa reporting so many cases | 07:41 |
| tinwhiskers | Some countries it will work for, some it won't. meh. | 07:41 |
| rajrajraj | Say a person stays not infected, will it be safe for him to come near by any recovered patient? | 07:42 |
| tinwhiskers | atm, there is a problem with a *drop* in cummulative numbers of confirmed cases for Canada which I haven't figured out the source of. | 07:42 |
| fester | https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/fn3j0w/how_to_stop_a_virus_from_spreading/ | 07:43 |
| tinwhiskers | (fcking John Hopkins) | 07:43 |
| DrGORi | Hello y'all | 07:45 |
| ubLIX | tinwhiskers: but isn't the non-cumulative deaths per 100,000 already a death-rate graph? | 07:46 |
| tinwhiskers | rajrajraj: it's pretty safe, although for up to about 30 days post recovery a very small number of people do still have some detectable traces of virus, but they are unlikely to infect other people, or at least not at any rate that is worrying. There is a very small risk you could get it off a recently recovered patient. | 07:46 |
| tinwhiskers | ubLIX: interesting point :-) | 07:46 |
| ubLIX | but, idk, maybe an X-day moving average of non-cumulative deaths per 100,000 where X=(5 day moving average of double time) ? | 07:47 |
| ubLIX | hrm | 07:47 |
| tinwhiskers | I was thinking mortality rate as in deaths/confirmed, but you make a good point | 07:47 |
| ubLIX | it's 7am and i can no longer tell whether what i just said makes any sense whatsoever :| | 07:50 |
| tinwhiskers | heh | 07:51 |
| ubLIX | yep. one more cup of time then i'm turning in for the night | 07:52 |
| berndj | tinwhiskers, after several days of >100 new cases, we had just +17 of the total case count. turns out our CDC-equiv was doing some de-duping (the true number of new cases was +112) | 07:53 |
| tinwhiskers | I'm about to turn in too, but it's only 7pm :-) | 07:53 |
| tinwhiskers | berndj: Oh! | 07:53 |
| tinwhiskers | As an aside, Michigan and New Jersey look like they may outdo New York once they get going. | 07:53 |
| berndj | no reason in principle the total couldn't go *down* for that reason | 07:54 |
| tinwhiskers | yes, corrections are a valid reason | 07:55 |
| tinwhiskers | Although I wish they would think of the aesthetics of people's graphs and the effect that has on calculations like doubling time! | 07:55 |
| tinwhiskers | maybe I'm not one to speak of aesthetics when it comes to graphs :-/ | 07:56 |
| ubLIX | tinwhiskers: maybe you could plot cases-doubling time and deaths-doubling time (with some alignment for disease-progression) on the same chart; might give a sense of health system capacity failure and/or capacity ramp/up, and other things like arrival of successful therapies; unrelated, but it might be nice if "align at x" did not at the same time align deaths/recoveries at x, for a more immediate picture of lag | 08:05 |
| tinwhiskers | ubLIX: oh, yes, I'm intending to add an option to choose what the doubling time is based on | 08:07 |
| ubLIX | but both plots on the same chart (with adjustable alignment) would show disparities (divergence)! | 08:08 |
| tinwhiskers | yes, ideally you want a different "Align at" value for each graph but it seems a bit messy so you you really just need to adjust it to suit whichever graph you're looking at | 08:08 |
| tinwhiskers | ubLIX: hrm. yes | 08:08 |
| tinwhiskers | That's a good idea. I might make it so it plots doubling time for confirmed and for deaths (but not recovered), both on the same graph using a different line style, and checkboxes underneath to select which you want plotted. | 08:11 |
| ryouma | i hope this is ironic --- 22:36 <IronY> Everyone wants to get covid popular | 08:13 |
| IronY | ryouma: I suggest you read the whole conversation | 08:13 |
| IronY | specifically the few lines above it | 08:13 |
| ryouma | IronY: i read those, but the ones above those were technical talk i skipped | 08:14 |
| ryouma | it didn't answer my q, sorry | 08:14 |
| ryouma | (i read before saying so) | 08:15 |
| ubLIX | i glossed it as non-native english | 08:15 |
| IronY | ryouma: the TLDR is everyone and their brother is making their own covid19 site, all based on the same data, it be nice to see all the programmers in the world getting together and creating something definitive | 08:15 |
| ryouma | right | 08:15 |
| ryouma | were you saying what you said ironically? | 08:15 |
| ryouma | maybe they are just disorganized | 08:15 |
| IronY | ryouma: Or some want credit and traffic | 08:16 |
| ryouma | that is the part i hoped was not real | 08:16 |
| IronY | for example worldometer or what ever has like 90000 adds | 08:16 |
| ryouma | ok it is real | 08:16 |
| ryouma | morons | 08:16 |
| IronY | I have had to pause ad block on page more times in the last 2 weeks than I have in the entire history of me using that plugin | 08:17 |
| berndj | a lot of it is probably "no, yuck! that code over there is in <language1> and that sucks! i'm gonna do it in <language2>, which is <3 <3 ooooh aaah <3" | 08:17 |
| IronY | berndj: Fair, but this is the reason Linux will never own the desktop lol | 08:18 |
| ubLIX | tinwhiskers: looking at Italy plots right now, it seems the lag between first confirmed case and first death was 21 days; aligning by that lag, the overlapping plots would show the progression of treatment success/failure, if you catch my drift | 08:18 |
| ryouma | berndj: taht sounds plausible | 08:18 |
| ryouma | that i expected but not opportunism | 08:18 |
| IronY | ubLIX: Be interesting to see if in that 21 days anyone died of pneumonia | 08:19 |
| berndj | why would you not expect that? | 08:19 |
| IronY | without being tagged covid19 | 08:19 |
| tinwhiskers | ubLIX: yeah | 08:19 |
| ryouma | berndj: well iw ould awnt it not to be the case of course | 08:19 |
| berndj | IronY, we went from 2 deaths back down to 1 death due to that - a suspected case who died turned out to test negative | 08:19 |
| ubLIX | IronY: in a population of 60 million, did at least 1 person die during a 20 day interval in winter? probably | 08:20 |
| IronY | berndj: Yeah Qubec did that for a bit | 08:20 |
| IronY | ubLIX: I be more interested if 100 > people died | 08:20 |
| ubLIX | probably | 08:20 |
| IronY | Youngest Death Canada is now 49 | 08:21 |
| DrGORi | Did you factor in the dubious nature of informations given by different locations | 08:23 |
| IronY | Did you guys see the NYT data dump | 08:23 |
| IronY | ffs | 08:25 |
| IronY | %title https://techcrunch.com/2020/03/26/norwegian-school-whereby/ | 08:25 |
| Brainstorm | IronY: From techcrunch.com: Ora TechCrunch fa parte del gruppo Verizon Media | 08:25 |
| IronY | "A school in Norway has stopped using popular video conferencing service Whereby after a naked man apparently “guessed” the link to a video lesson." | 08:25 |
| IndoAnon | that will teach the normies | 08:26 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 06:22 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia live news: two more deaths reported in Queensland and Victoria as first arrivals go direct to quarantine — from r/WorldNews at 06:22: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/DbqsuH | 08:27 |
| IronY | https://raw.githubusercontent.com/beoutbreakprepared/nCoV2019/master/latest_data/latestdata.csv | 08:27 |
| IronY | check out that data | 08:28 |
| IronY | "ID,age,sex,city,province,country,wuhan(0)_not_wuhan(1),latitude,longitude,geo_resolution,date_onset_symptoms,date_admission_hospital,date_confirmation,symptoms,lives_in_Wuhan,travel_history_dates,travel_history_location,reported_market_exposure,additional_information,chronic_disease_binary,chronic_disease,source,sequence_available,outcome,date_death_or_discharge,notes_for_discussion,location,admin3,admin2 | 08:28 |
| IronY | ,admin1,country_new,admin_id,data_moderator_initials,travel_history_binary" | 08:28 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +519 cases (now 664966), +7 deaths (now 30898), +7 recoveries (now 142367) 🔹 Armenia: +2 deaths (now 3) 🔹 Australia: +160 cases (now 3969), +2 deaths (now 16) 🔹 Bhutan: +1 cases (now 4) 🔹 Bulgaria: +7 cases (now 338) 🔹 California, US: +134 cases (now 5683), +2 deaths (now 121) 🔹 Cambodia: +4 cases (now 103), +8 recoveries (now 21) [... want %more?] | 08:37 |
| pandakekok9 | %data Philippines | 08:43 |
| Brainstorm | pandakekok9: In all areas, Philippines, there are 1075 cases, 68 deaths (6.3% of cases), 35 recoveries as of March 29, 06:34Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Philippines for time series data. | 08:43 |
| IronY | %data canada | 08:43 |
| Brainstorm | IronY: In all areas, Canada, there are 5655 cases, 60 deaths (1.1% of cases), 508 recoveries as of March 29, 06:34Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Canada for time series data. | 08:43 |
| IronY | weee | 08:43 |
| pandakekok9 | I wonder when my country would get mass testing | 08:44 |
| Yuhma | pandakekok9 you can find yourself out for free: stay away from people for two weeks... if you do not show signs, then you do not have it. | 08:48 |
| pandakekok9 | Yeah but I'm worried more about my community | 08:48 |
| pandakekok9 | I'm already self-isolating myself since 10 March | 08:48 |
| Yuhma | yes, but first you need to know you are healthy... then you can support your community | 08:49 |
| Yuhma | a solution on 0.21% of bleach is a good and cheap virus killer | 08:50 |
| ubLIX | tinwhiskers: "..Do you have any thoughts.." - realising you weren't talking about a temporal rate; taking your 'death rate' as infection fatality rate (IFR), i don't see how it be could approached until some time after the pandemic has passed (at least not without some sophisticated modelling on meagre data). i think any plot death-rate related will have to be based on attributable recorded deaths alone. perhaps given deaths per 100,000, | 08:52 |
| ubLIX | that instantaneous rate could be year-normalised and expressed as a fraction of each country's crude death rate | 08:52 |
| tinwhiskers | yeah, the lag coupled with testing bias makes it pretty crap. The per-capita death rate is more robust, so I'm happy. | 08:53 |
| ubLIX | good night | 08:54 |
| MjrTom[m] | LjL (@freenode_LjL:matrix.org): doubling time would be a very useful addition to your bots reports imo | 08:56 |
| mefistofeles | MjrTom[m]: indeed | 08:57 |
| mefistofeles | !cases | 08:57 |
| CovBot | In World there have been a total of 664,966 cases as of 2020-03-29 06:34:00 UTC. Of these 491,701 (73.9%) are still sick or may have recovered without being recorded, 142,367 (21.4%) have definitely recovered and 30,898 (4.6%) have died. | 08:57 |
| mefistofeles | CoronaBot: cases | 08:58 |
| mefistofeles | not working? :P | 08:58 |
| sYN4P515 | !corona | 08:58 |
| CoronaBot | Total cases: 07664,621 (+1,542), deaths: 0430,891 (+34), recovered: 09142,368. Active cases: 04491,362, 02466,135 are in a mild condition, 0425,227 are in a serious condition. Case fatality rate: 0417.83%, mortality: 044.65%. Case rate: 0466,758/day, death rate: 043,518/day. Last update: 055m ago. | 08:58 |
| sYN4P515 | check !help for full list of commands mefistofeles | 08:59 |
| zoko | !help | 08:59 |
| CoronaBot | 09,01[OK] Coronavirus commands: | 08:59 |
| CoronaBot | Show global stats: !corona | Show stats for a country/state (US/AU/CA): !corona country | Show stats for a county (US): !corona county, state (ex: !corona new york city, ny) | 08:59 |
| CoronaBot | Top ten infected countries today: !corona today | all-time: !corona alltime | Top ten countries with fatalities today: !corona todaydead | all-time: !corona alltimedead | 08:59 |
| CoronaBot | Top ten infected states/provinces: !usa !australia !canada | 08:59 |
| MjrTom[m] | Another feature request for you too sYN4P515 - doubling time | 08:59 |
| sYN4P515 | care to elaborate? | 08:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 06:54 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Cases globally surpass 660,000, Singapore confirms third death — from r/WorldNews at 06:54: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/53zslH | 09:00 |
| MjrTom[m] | We 'need' to know the period in which total cases, and deaths, have doubled | 09:00 |
| sYN4P515 | do you know the formula how to calculate it? | 09:00 |
| MjrTom[m] | No and I'm too tired to think if it right now but Evolver could tell you | 09:01 |
| sYN4P515 | i can implement it but need a formula since i suck at math :P | 09:02 |
| MjrTom[m] | I know Evolver could tell you how he did it, and I'm sure others could tell you the correct way, or a web search. I'm not sure how to do it without fine-grained historical data | 09:04 |
| orgg | The saddest part is that the longer I volunteer doing health screenings, ultimately the later date until I'm done in self quarantine. | 09:05 |
| twomoon | what are you talking about MjrTom[m] | 09:05 |
| MjrTom[m] | But it's a very useful metric | 09:05 |
| MjrTom[m] | twomoon: doubling time | 09:05 |
| orgg | !corona dane, wi | 09:06 |
| CoronaBot | Dane, Wisconsin: Confirmed cases: 07158, fatalities: 041, mortality: 040.63% | 09:06 |
| orgg | that's WAY off | 09:06 |
| twomoon | what's the trajectory lookin like MjrTom[m] | 09:06 |
| orgg | Well, perhaps I'm thinking incorrectly. | 09:06 |
| orgg | !corona WI | 09:06 |
| CoronaBot | Wisconsin: State rank: 04#20, cases: 07989, fatalities: 0415, active cases: 04972, mortality: 041.52%. | 09:06 |
| sYN4P515 | orgg county data is only updated once every 24h i think | 09:06 |
| orgg | ok, it's up to date. | 09:06 |
| MjrTom[m] | Looks to me like the world is around 3.5 day doubling time, and USA is about 4 day doubling time | 09:07 |
| orgg | We're up to #20, jeez. | 09:07 |
| MjrTom[m] | And I maintain that I think USA is about 3 weeks from peak (assuming things are made fucked up any more than they have been already, which is a huge assumption) | 09:09 |
| orgg | We'll see how long I can stay well really, I g uess. | 09:10 |
| mefistofeles | sYN4P515: to compute doubling time you could use (days*ln(2))/(ln(cases_now/cases_0)) | 09:10 |
| mefistofeles | sYN4P515: if that's readable :P | 09:11 |
| orgg | 6 days doing screenings at a mens shelter and triage with 2 probable patients so far. | 09:11 |
| sYN4P515 | what is cases_0? | 09:11 |
| mefistofeles | sYN4P515: cases at day 0 | 09:11 |
| mefistofeles | or when you started measuring, basically | 09:11 |
| sYN4P515 | umm wouldnt that be 0 most of the time? | 09:11 |
| sYN4P515 | or just 1 | 09:11 |
| mefistofeles | sYN4P515: when you started measuring | 09:11 |
| mefistofeles | depends | 09:11 |
| sYN4P515 | or, like from a week ago? | 09:11 |
| balaa[m] | can the bot show city by deaths per-capita? | 09:12 |
| balaa[m] | i hear my city is #1 in the world | 09:12 |
| mefistofeles | because the doubling time is different every day, so you can estimate the whole doubling time, or the last few days, etc. | 09:12 |
| sYN4P515 | how huge of a period are talking about | 09:12 |
| sYN4P515 | balaa[m] don'y have per city data source yet | 09:12 |
| mefistofeles | I've seen people using last five days, commonly | 09:12 |
| sYN4P515 | ok thanks mefistofeles , i'll see what i can do :) | 09:12 |
| balaa[m] | county? | 09:13 |
| mefistofeles | so that would be (5*ln(2))/(ln(cases_now/cases_5_days_ago)) | 09:13 |
| sYN4P515 | balaa[m] yep counties are available | 09:13 |
| balaa[m] | or I should say, parish | 09:13 |
| sYN4P515 | !corona new york city, ny | 09:13 |
| CoronaBot | New York City, New York: Confirmed cases: 0725,399, fatalities: 04450, mortality: 041.77% | 09:13 |
| balaa[m] | !corona new orleans, la | 09:13 |
| CoronaBot | 04,01[ERR] Country/state not found! | 09:13 |
| mefistofeles | sYN4P515: it would be nice if you can add an arrow ↑ or ↓ if the doubling time is going up or down respect previous measurement :) | 09:14 |
| balaa[m] | sweet! i can finally go outside | 09:14 |
| mefistofeles | !corona new orleans | 09:14 |
| CoronaBot | 04,01[ERR] Country/state not found! | 09:14 |
| mefistofeles | heh | 09:14 |
| orgg | !corona orleans, la | 09:14 |
| CoronaBot | Orleans, Louisiana: Confirmed cases: 071,170, fatalities: 0457, mortality: 044.87% | 09:14 |
| mefistofeles | woah, new orleans is having a hard time | 09:14 |
| IronY | sYN4P515: msg mrnodebot "covid19-canada" | 09:15 |
| mefistofeles | also not testing enough, evidently | 09:15 |
| balaa[m] | right, orleans is the parish | 09:15 |
| IronY | without the quotes of course | 09:15 |
| sYN4P515 | mefistofeles good idea | 09:15 |
| MjrTom[m] | It's going to get a lot worse, I'm sorry to say | 09:15 |
| MjrTom[m] | A whole lot worse | 09:15 |
| sYN4P515 | ahh nice IronY | 09:16 |
| balaa[m] | at this point we should start to see a significant slowdown (say my intuition) | 09:16 |
| balaa[m] | I think our social distancing efforts will/are paying off | 09:16 |
| mefistofeles | sYN4P515: even colors, like 4↑ and 3↓ or something like that :P | 09:16 |
| mefistofeles | oh, emsseed up the colors | 09:17 |
| mefistofeles | haha | 09:17 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 07:10 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia live news: two more deaths reported in Queensland and Victoria as first arrivals go direct to quarantine — from r/WorldNews at 07:10: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/DbqsuH | 09:17 |
| balaa[m] | especially for the at risk population | 09:17 |
| sYN4P515 | yup, can do mefistofeles | 09:17 |
| balaa[m] | cases may go up but like in germany deaths can remain low / stabilize | 09:17 |
| mefistofeles | !corona Germany | 09:17 |
| CoronaBot | Germany: Global rank: 04#5, cases: 0757,695, fatalities: 04433, active cases: 0448,781, total recovered: 098,481, in a serious condition: 041,581. Case fatality rate: 044.86%, mortality: 040.75%, cases/1M: 04689.0, deaths/1M: 045.0. Case rate: 046,824/day, death rate: 0482/day. | 09:17 |
| mefistofeles | balaa[m]: well, you can see how mortality has ben steadily increasing in Germany, as expected | 09:18 |
| mefistofeles | it started at 0.1 or so | 09:18 |
| MjrTom[m] | Germany cases passed NY again yesterday | 09:18 |
| mefistofeles | the thing is that Germany is testing A LOT, so that's also why | 09:18 |
| mefistofeles | I don't think NY or USA is testing enough | 09:19 |
| mefistofeles | so that's under represented | 09:19 |
| MjrTom[m] | No where near enough | 09:19 |
| MjrTom[m] | And we need random population sampling | 09:19 |
| mefistofeles | MjrTom[m]: that can only happen when you have enough tests, which you have not | 09:20 |
| MjrTom[m] | Yes, exactly | 09:20 |
| calbasi_matrix | !corona Spain | 09:20 |
| CoronaBot | Spain: Global rank: 04#4, cases: 0773,235, fatalities: 045,982, active cases: 0454,968, total recovered: 0912,285, in a serious condition: 044,165. Case fatality rate: 0432.75%, mortality: 048.17%, cases/1M: 041566.0, deaths/1M: 04128.0. Case rate: 047,516/day, death rate: 04844/day. | 09:20 |
| IronY | MrNodeBot: covid19-canada | 09:20 |
| MrNodeBot | 00😷 Canada - a day ago → [12Total] 035,386 Conf (+08736) 1139 Prob 025,425 Total 0460 Dead (041.11%) [12BC] 03884 Conf (+08159) 0417 Dead (041.92%) [12AB] 03542 Conf 042 Dead (040.37%) | 09:20 |
| MrNodeBot | [12SK] 03134 Conf (+0830) [12MB] 0325 Conf (+0825) 1139 Prob 0264 Total 041 Dead (041.56%) [12ON] 03993 Conf 0418 Dead (041.81%) | 09:20 |
| MrNodeBot | [12QC] 032,498 Conf (+08477) 0422 Dead (040.88%) [12NL] 03120 Conf (+0818) [12NB] 0351 Conf (+086) | 09:21 |
| MrNodeBot | [12NS] 03110 Conf (+0820) [12PEI] 0311 Conf [12NT] 031 Conf | 09:21 |
| MrNodeBot | [12NU] 030 Conf [12YK] 034 Conf (+081) [12Repatriated] 0313 Conf | 09:21 |
| mefistofeles | IronY: why another bot? | 09:21 |
| mefistofeles | oh no | 09:21 |
| mefistofeles | and a floody one | 09:21 |
| IronY | mefistofeles: more ment for the link logging | 09:21 |
| IronY | bots set to quite | 09:21 |
| IronY | i mean unless u actually issue a command | 09:21 |
| mefistofeles | ok | 09:21 |
| IronY | but it does do this, LjL when u get back let me know if you dont want that' | 09:21 |
| IronY | http://www.google.com | 09:21 |
| MrNodeBot | 04* IronY → 02⚓ 02https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl → Google | 09:21 |
| mefistofeles | IronY: I'm also admin here, btw :) | 09:21 |
| mefistofeles | but sure | 09:22 |
| orgg | I bet 3 commands would cause sigyn to kill it. | 09:22 |
| mefistofeles | IronY: that's not convenient, we already have Brainstorm for that | 09:22 |
| mefistofeles | and not automatically, because it gets spammy | 09:22 |
| IronY | mefistofeles: LjL was telling me brain storm does not do that | 09:22 |
| IronY | for example | 09:22 |
| IronY | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKopRPFbm1U | 09:23 |
| mefistofeles | http://duckduckgo.com | 09:23 |
| MrNodeBot | 04* mefistofeles → 02⚓ 02https://duckduckgo.com/ → DuckDuckGo — Privacy, simplified. | 09:23 |
| orgg | MrNodeBot: covid19-usa | 09:23 |
| mefistofeles | %title | 09:23 |
| MrNodeBot | 04* IronY → 14You04Tube → 7NEWS Australia → Coronavirus: The latest COVID-19 news on Sunday, March 29 (AM update) | 7NEWS → 02⚘ 02206,411 03↑ 031,289 04↓ 04101 12✍ 12878 → 10 hours ago | 09:23 |
| MrNodeBot | Sorry orgg, covid19-usa is not an option. Perhaps you meant "covid19" ([Region]?, [City/Province]? - COVID-19 Facts Provided By John Hopkins)? | 09:23 |
| Brainstorm | mefistofeles, the URL could not be loaded | 09:23 |
| orgg | MrNodeBot: covid19-canada | 09:23 |
| MrNodeBot | 00😷 Canada - a day ago → [12Total] 035,386 Conf (+08736) 1139 Prob 025,425 Total 0460 Dead (041.11%) [12BC] 03884 Conf (+08159) 0417 Dead (041.92%) [12AB] 03542 Conf 042 Dead (040.37%) | 09:23 |
| MrNodeBot | [12SK] 03134 Conf (+0830) [12MB] 0325 Conf (+0825) 1139 Prob 0264 Total 041 Dead (041.56%) [12ON] 03993 Conf 0418 Dead (041.81%) | 09:23 |
| MrNodeBot | [12QC] 032,498 Conf (+08477) 0422 Dead (040.88%) [12NL] 03120 Conf (+0818) [12NB] 0351 Conf (+086) | 09:23 |
| MrNodeBot | [12NS] 03110 Conf (+0820) [12PEI] 0311 Conf [12NT] 031 Conf | 09:23 |
| MrNodeBot | [12NU] 030 Conf [12YK] 034 Conf (+081) [12Repatriated] 0313 Conf | 09:23 |
| orgg | MrNodeBot: covid19-australia | 09:23 |
| MrNodeBot | Sorry orgg, covid19-australia is not an option. Perhaps you meant "covid19-stats" ([Region]?, [City]? - COVID-19 Stats Compiled daily by https://covid19.health)? | 09:23 |
| IronY | finee | 09:23 |
| IronY | MrNodeBot: mute Brainstorm | 09:23 |
| orgg | MrNodeBot: covid19-aus | 09:23 |
| MrNodeBot | Brainstorm has been muted. May there be peace. | 09:23 |
| MrNodeBot | Sorry orgg, covid19-aus is not an option. Perhaps you meant "covid19" ([Region]?, [City/Province]? - COVID-19 Facts Provided By John Hopkins)? | 09:23 |
| IronY | ill turn it all off | 09:23 |
| IronY | lol | 09:23 |
| IronY | and just collect the links | 09:23 |
| mefistofeles | yeah that's the problem | 09:23 |
| orgg | I was just trying to see if I could trigger sigyn. | 09:23 |
| orgg | I'm mean. | 09:23 |
| mefistofeles | bots can trigger other | 09:23 |
| orgg | sorry. | 09:23 |
| IronY | Yeah its muted now | 09:23 |
| IronY | that wont happen again, u beat me to it | 09:23 |
| IronY | sec let me turn off links | 09:23 |
| mefistofeles | IronY: that's ok :) | 09:24 |
| IronY | dont turn them off? | 09:24 |
| mefistofeles | no, turn them off | 09:24 |
| IronY | lol gotcha | 09:24 |
| IronY | MrNodeBot: halt | 09:24 |
| IronY | mefistofeles: Mind if I pipe the links from here to ##coronavirus-links? | 09:25 |
| mefistofeles | IronY: I don't | 09:25 |
| IronY | http://www.test.com | 09:25 |
| twomoon | quien suminstra coronabot? | 09:26 |
| IronY | mefistofeles: https://bot.fsociety.online/api/urls?channel=%23%23covid-19&pageSize=100 | 09:26 |
| IronY | feel free to consume my endpoint fellow programmers | 09:27 |
| sYN4P515 | twomoon CoronaBot is mine | 09:27 |
| IronY | Who has the code for that odds command I keep forgetting | 09:28 |
| IronY | the one that keeps telling me I will probably live | 09:28 |
| twomoon | puedo tener su codigo? | 09:28 |
| sYN4P515 | !risk 40 | 09:28 |
| IronY | !odds 35 | 09:28 |
| IronY | there we go | 09:28 |
| CovBot | I estimate a 40 year old patient sick with COVID-19 has a 99.6% chance of survival, a 17.8% likelihood of needing to go to hospital, a 5.3% risk of needing intensive care there and a 0.4% chance of death. | 09:28 |
| IronY | !risk 35 | 09:28 |
| CovBot | I estimate a 35 year old patient sick with COVID-19 has a 99.7% chance of survival, a 14.7% likelihood of needing to go to hospital, a 3.9% risk of needing intensive care there and a 0.3% chance of death. | 09:29 |
| sYN4P515 | twomoon it's not opensource yet, but I can put the bot in your channel/network | 09:29 |
| twomoon | oh ok nevermind | 09:29 |
| IronY | sYN4P515: Can you kopy.io some snippets for this !risk command | 09:33 |
| sYN4P515 | umm what for? | 09:33 |
| IronY | I want to see how it is telling me I am not going to die | 09:33 |
| sYN4P515 | CovBot is not mine | 09:34 |
| DrGORi | !corona France | 09:34 |
| CoronaBot | France: Global rank: 04#6, cases: 0737,575, fatalities: 042,314, active cases: 0429,561, total recovered: 095,700, in a serious condition: 044,273. Case fatality rate: 0428.87%, mortality: 046.16%, cases/1M: 04576.0, deaths/1M: 0435.0. Case rate: 044,611/day, death rate: 04319/day. | 09:34 |
| DrGORi | !corona Germany | 09:35 |
| CoronaBot | Germany: Global rank: 04#5, cases: 0757,695, fatalities: 04433, active cases: 0448,781, total recovered: 098,481, in a serious condition: 041,581. Case fatality rate: 044.86%, mortality: 040.75%, cases/1M: 04689.0, deaths/1M: 045.0. Case rate: 046,824/day, death rate: 0482/day. | 09:35 |
| twomoon | i have around a 4-5% chance of needing intensive care | 09:36 |
| pwr22 | ! source | 09:38 |
| pwr22 | !source | 09:38 |
| CovBot | I was created by Peter Roberts and MIT licensed on Github at https://github.com/pwr22/covbot. I fetch new data every 15 minutes from http://offloop.net/covid19h/unconfirmed.csv, https://www.arcgis.com/sharing/rest/content/items/ca796627a2294c51926865748c4a56e8/data and https://www.arcgis.com/sharing/rest/content/items/b684319181f94875a6879bbc833ca3a6/data. Risk estimates are based on the model at | 09:38 |
| CovBot | https://www.desmos.com/calculator/v0zif7tflm. | 09:38 |
| mefistofeles | pwr22: not open source | 09:38 |
| mefistofeles | oh, nvm | 09:38 |
| mefistofeles | misread xD | 09:38 |
| twomoon | !corona colombia | 09:39 |
| CoronaBot | Colombia: Global rank: 04#54, cases: 07608, fatalities: 046, active cases: 04592, total recovered: 0910, in a serious condition: 04-. Case fatality rate: 04-, mortality: 040.99%, cases/1M: 0412.0, deaths/1M: 040.1. | 09:39 |
| mefistofeles | IronY: nice, though I'm programming something different, something for hospitals right now... hopefully | 09:39 |
| IronY | mefistofeles: I still somehow have two jobs I am supposed to do, So I cannot go that intense, but like I was saying earlier, this would be a great time for the greater open soruce community to do like 1 epic thing all together | 09:42 |
| IronY | I mean when Pokemon go came out, that python bot was getting like 100 PRS an hour | 09:42 |
| DrGORi | Have a good day ! | 09:43 |
| IronY | death_rate = max(0, -0.00186807 + 0.00000351867 * | 09:47 |
| IronY | age ** 2 + (2.7595 * 10 ** -15) * age ** 7) | 09:47 |
| IronY | ic_rate = max(0, -0.0572602 - -0.0027617 * age) | 09:47 |
| IronY | h_rate = max(0, -0.0730827 - age * -0.00628289) | 09:47 |
| IronY | I have seen behind the curtain | 09:47 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 07:39 UTC: Midwifery: Midwife shortage doubles as NHS staff diverted to tend Covid-19 patients — from r/WorldNews at 07:39: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/prSbII | 09:48 |
| twomoon | how did you arrive at this equation irony | 09:52 |
| IronY | twomoon: its from the code that was just linked by covbot, which is from a model that was also linked | 09:57 |
| sYN4P515 | hmm lots of magic numbers | 10:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health at 08:04 UTC: Coronavirus: Things will get worse before getting better, PM warns: Measures to target coronavirus may get tougher, Boris Johnson says in letter sent to every UK home. — from r/WorldNews at 08:04: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/6R6QA7 | 10:10 |
| aradesh | morning everyone | 10:11 |
| ketas | second death here | 10:12 |
| aradesh | south korea starting mandatory 2 week quarantine for everyone arriving from abroad | 10:12 |
| ketas | feels boring to be honesf | 10:12 |
| aradesh | ketas: where are you? | 10:12 |
| ketas | estonia | 10:13 |
| IronY | MrNodeBot: covid19-risk 35 | 10:13 |
| MrNodeBot | 00😷 Covid-19 Risks → Age: 35 → Survival: 030.997% → Hospitalization: 120.1468% → ICU: 080.0394% → Death 040.0026% | 10:13 |
| aradesh | ketas: hopefully can keep it low in estonia | 10:14 |
| light | that's not how percentages work | 10:14 |
| sYN4P515 | lol looks like percentages are off IronY | 10:14 |
| IronY | yep just noticed | 10:14 |
| IronY | Math.max !== max( | 10:14 |
| aradesh | survival rate less than 1% for 35 year olds, lol | 10:14 |
| twomoon | hi aradesh | 10:14 |
| sYN4P515 | don't you have tests IronY ? :P | 10:14 |
| IronY | sYN4P515: lol I straight up just copy pasted the python formula into node | 10:14 |
| IronY | its 4am | 10:15 |
| IronY | im purty high | 10:15 |
| sYN4P515 | lol fair | 10:15 |
| aradesh | apparently a baby has died from coronavirus | 10:15 |
| sYN4P515 | hahahah | 10:15 |
| ketas | manual tests only | 10:15 |
| IronY | aradesh: link?> | 10:15 |
| sYN4P515 | yep i've been in the same position a lot IronY | 10:15 |
| IronY | !risk 35 | 10:15 |
| CovBot | I estimate a 35 year old patient sick with COVID-19 has a 99.7% chance of survival, a 14.7% likelihood of needing to go to hospital, a 3.9% risk of needing intensive care there and a 0.3% chance of death. | 10:15 |
| ketas | actually i have never used tests in my 20 years of writing code | 10:15 |
| aradesh | IronY: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/29/coronavirus-illinois-governor-announces-rare-death-of-baby | 10:15 |
| aradesh | in USA | 10:16 |
| IronY | ahh his string formater was doing the * 100 | 10:16 |
| aradesh | passengers coming to korea must pass a temperature check to be allowed in | 10:22 |
| aradesh | south korea | 10:22 |
| twomoon | hi aradesh | 10:23 |
| aradesh | hi | 10:23 |
| twomoon | i have a 4% chance of needing an ICU bed | 10:23 |
| aradesh | are you 35? | 10:23 |
| twomoon | 37 | 10:23 |
| aradesh | !risk 37 | 10:24 |
| CovBot | I estimate a 37 year old patient sick with COVID-19 has a 99.7% chance of survival, a 15.9% likelihood of needing to go to hospital, a 4.5% risk of needing intensive care there and a 0.3% chance of death. | 10:24 |
| aradesh | that's kind of high, 4$ | 10:24 |
| aradesh | 4% | 10:24 |
| twomoon | they drug you during ICU stays right? | 10:24 |
| aradesh | presume so | 10:24 |
| twomoon | fuck i don't think i'd like that | 10:24 |
| twomoon | being drugged up like fucks with your mind later | 10:24 |
| IronY | MrNodeBot: !risk 0 | 10:26 |
| IronY | MrNodeBot: covid19-risk 1 | 10:26 |
| MrNodeBot | 00😷 Covid-19 Risks → Age: 1 → Survival: 03100% → Hospitalization: 120% → ICU: 080% → Death 040% | 10:26 |
| IronY | MrNodeBot: covid19-risk 27 | 10:27 |
| MrNodeBot | 00😷 Covid-19 Risks → Age: 27 → Survival: 0399.92699999999999% → Hospitalization: 129.656% → ICU: 081.7309999999999999% → Death 040.073% | 10:27 |
| mefistofeles | twomoon: really? haha, after ICU and you are worrying you will get drugged? xD | 10:27 |
| IronY | ouu should round that | 10:27 |
| nameo0 | Mrnodebot: covid19-ris | 10:28 |
| MrNodeBot | Sorry nameo0, covid19-ris is not an option. Perhaps you meant "covid19-risk" ([age] - COVID-19 Risk by age based on computer model provided by https://www.desmos.com/calculator/v0zif7tflm)? | 10:28 |
| mefistofeles | IronY: 3-4 significant digits, I'd think | 10:28 |
| twomoon | mefistofeles, eres muy retorcido | 10:28 |
| yuriwho | !risk 54 | 10:28 |
| CovBot | I estimate a 54 year old patient sick with COVID-19 has a 98.8% chance of survival, a 26.6% likelihood of needing to go to hospital, a 9.2% risk of needing intensive care there and a 1.2% chance of death. | 10:28 |
| sYN4P515 | lol IronY this is why you need tests :P | 10:28 |
| twomoon | tuve una reaccion a esas drogas creo | 10:28 |
| IronY | hey man I got 15 decimal points and its still less spammy | 10:29 |
| IronY | :P | 10:29 |
| twomoon | why are there so many bots here now | 10:29 |
| twomoon | this is just becoming a bot testbed | 10:29 |
| aradesh | because robots are immune to the virus | 10:29 |
| IronY | twomoon: Its 4 am | 10:29 |
| aradesh | so they're replacing us | 10:29 |
| mefistofeles | gah, I always forget the tar syntax xD | 10:29 |
| IronY | zcvf - create gzipped | 10:29 |
| IronY | zxvf - extra gzipped | 10:29 |
| twomoon | estoy bajando de peso sin comida mexicana mefistofeles | 10:31 |
| mefistofeles | IronY: yeah, but the order, and also xz | 10:31 |
| mefistofeles | but got it fwiw :P | 10:31 |
| twomoon | baje por 2 kilos | 10:31 |
| mefistofeles | IronY: and thanks | 10:31 |
| mefistofeles | twomoon: jaja, muy bien | 10:32 |
| twomoon | como menos porque fideos no tienen mucho sabor | 10:32 |
| mefistofeles | twomoon: creo que no solo es no comer comida mexicana sino la comida hecha en casa que ayuda | 10:32 |
| mefistofeles | twomoon: we should do this in english :P | 10:32 |
| mefistofeles | and maybe in private haha | 10:33 |
| twomoon | yes somehow the homemade food is like really low calorie compared to what i was eating before | 10:33 |
| twomoon | dude it's 4am | 10:33 |
| IronY | I was having a good enough time trying to see how much I could understand | 10:33 |
| twomoon | gimme a break | 10:33 |
| aradesh | what kind of quarantine efforts are US currently employing? | 10:33 |
| IronY | ok last time, for the finish | 10:33 |
| twomoon | aradesh , the US hasn't done a strict quarantine in any city yet afaik | 10:34 |
| IronY | MrNodeBot: covid19-risk 14 | 10:34 |
| MrNodeBot | 00😷 Covid-19 Risks → Age: 14 → Survival: 03100% → Hospitalization: 121.4878% → ICU: 080% → Death 040% | 10:34 |
| twomoon | but trump brought it up recently with regards to Nueva York | 10:34 |
| aradesh | twomoon: ouch... | 10:34 |
| twomoon | but then Cuomo el italiano dice que no quiere que pase | 10:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 08:30 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Cases globally surpass 660,000, Singapore confirms third death — from r/WorldNews at 08:30: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/53zslH | 10:34 |
| aradesh | i dont know italian | 10:35 |
| twomoon | debes aprender espanol. este canal es una total farsa en ingles | 10:35 |
| IronY | I found out my 91 year old great aunt in sicily is still kicking today | 10:35 |
| IronY | so thats good | 10:35 |
| yuriwho | https://twitter.com/livs_unfknstpbl/status/1244169178535223297 | 10:36 |
| twomoon | they say sicily is having it rough not due to the virus but due to the lockdowns | 10:36 |
| twomoon | people are going crazy | 10:36 |
| IronY | twomoon: I would imagine a 91 year old to be fairly stationary | 10:37 |
| IronY | I would hope | 10:37 |
| twomoon | yeah | 10:37 |
| IronY | I know this sounds horrible, but I am a second generation Canadian, my grandfather is the Italian, he is running around nothern ontario buying 3 tomato's at a time like nothing is happening and I am trying to point to Italy and be like hey nono, stay the fuck home | 10:38 |
| IronY | to little results | 10:38 |
| aradesh | why does that sound horrible? | 10:39 |
| IronY | I hate to have to use a specific country as an example of shit hitting fans | 10:39 |
| aradesh | ah | 10:39 |
| aradesh | why's that? | 10:39 |
| twomoon | my pops refuses to wear a mask at the grocery store | 10:39 |
| twomoon | he thinks it scares people | 10:39 |
| IronY | ^ same reason I do not like pointing out countries as examples | 10:39 |
| nameo0 | The lack of mask probably scares more people. =( | 10:40 |
| twomoon | italy isn't the shit hitting the fan ....it's the americas where that will happen | 10:40 |
| twomoon | italy is doing a great job | 10:40 |
| IronY | twomoon: I live to close to a border to think about that | 10:40 |
| IronY | one step at a time | 10:40 |
| IronY | lol | 10:40 |
| twomoon | irony do you mentor people in python web programming | 10:40 |
| IronY | twomoon: It is not my preferred language but I actually teach Python at a local college (intro level) | 10:41 |
| twomoon | oh nice | 10:41 |
| twomoon | i am surprised to hear that | 10:41 |
| IronY | Should I be insulted lol | 10:41 |
| yuriwho | IronY: what do you make of the sudden outbreak in Montreal? | 10:42 |
| twomoon | do you do web programming of any type? | 10:42 |
| IronY | yuriwho: Clinical diagnosis | 10:42 |
| IronY | I would imagine | 10:42 |
| IronY | I hope | 10:42 |
| IronY | twomoon: I am a 'back end web developer' by trade | 10:42 |
| yuriwho | I worry about the snowbirds returning | 10:42 |
| twomoon | do you usually use php? | 10:42 |
| IronY | 2020 version of zombies = retirees in motor homes | 10:43 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 08:33 UTC: /u/pixelcraftables: Buongiorno a tutti, mentre eravate via — from r/WorldNews at 08:33: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/6wiS1E | 10:43 |
| IronY | twomoon: Php / Js / Node / C# etc etc | 10:43 |
| yuriwho | I was a whiz at Fortran back in the mid 80's | 10:44 |
| IronY | there is supposedly good money in legacy fortran | 10:44 |
| aradesh | IronY: i don't see the problem. it's a good idea to point out other countries who are further ahead as a warning | 10:44 |
| IronY | yuriwho: Things that currently concern me | 10:45 |
| aradesh | canada's infection rate is looking pretty exponential at the moment | 10:45 |
| CoroCoro | is there a cure for the covid-19? | 10:45 |
| aradesh | has canada taken many lockdown measures? | 10:45 |
| aradesh | CoroCoro: no | 10:45 |
| IronY | yuriwho: - For a government that is famous for Pheonix Payroll, how the hell are they going to get people checks at a country scale | 10:45 |
| twomoon | that's cool irony maybe i can ask you questions | 10:45 |
| yuriwho | a very mild lockdown for Ontario and Quebec | 10:45 |
| IronY | yuriwho: - Will the closure of physical company space be enough to offset the massive increase of hydro come air conditioning | 10:46 |
| yuriwho | IronY: damn....yea | 10:46 |
| aradesh | yuriwho: so, half-hearted to say the least? | 10:46 |
| IronY | twomoon: any time | 10:46 |
| yuriwho | aradesh: yes | 10:46 |
| aradesh | =/ | 10:46 |
| aradesh | i don't understand why countries aren't locking down much earlier, if they have the opportunity too... it's not like any other country has been different | 10:46 |
| IronY | I can plot the amount of time I left my house | 10:46 |
| yuriwho | we are gonna pay the price | 10:46 |
| IronY | under an hour in 15 days | 10:46 |
| IronY | most of it > 3am | 10:47 |
| aradesh | the only countries who got things under control were ones who took strong action very early | 10:47 |
| IronY | Our current spikes are not really a current spike | 10:47 |
| aradesh | IronY: do you have a 24 hour store you can shop at? | 10:47 |
| IronY | we started processing tests faster | 10:47 |
| IronY | aradesh: yes | 10:47 |
| aradesh | nice | 10:47 |
| aradesh | to my knowledge most 24 hour stores here started closing at night, so that staff could restock the shelves | 10:47 |
| IronY | I have seen 3 physical humans in 15 days aside from my live in gf | 10:47 |
| IronY | 2 of them behind plexiglass | 10:48 |
| aradesh | hehe | 10:48 |
| aradesh | good work | 10:48 |
| aradesh | i've seen a lot more because i've been having to go shopping in the day :/ | 10:48 |
| aradesh | like your grandpa, lol | 10:48 |
| aradesh | but that's all - just when i go to the shop | 10:48 |
| IronY | We have been farming out to neigbours | 10:48 |
| aradesh | not been seeing anyone lese | 10:48 |
| IronY | I am sorta upper middle class living in lower middler class area because I come from very low lower class, so everytime someone goes to the store for me I sneak them an extra 20 bucks | 10:49 |
| twomoon | seems like countries/cities wanna lock down at the last minute to allow the economy to keep functioning | 10:49 |
| IronY | basically I have 3 incomes including the gfs and everyone I know here is unemployed with 5 kids | 10:49 |
| IronY | its weird | 10:49 |
| twomoon | that is weird | 10:50 |
| IronY | we were supposed to buy a house this year | 10:50 |
| IronY | saved up for a down payment and everything | 10:50 |
| twomoon | lol me too | 10:50 |
| twomoon | i saved up finally and then this happens | 10:50 |
| IronY | twomoon: well then ur in the same boat | 10:50 |
| IronY | I can ride this out for awhile | 10:50 |
| IronY | might not get my house | 10:50 |
| twomoon | i'm a lot older than you and getting desperate | 10:50 |
| IronY | I am 35, whats a lot olde rlol | 10:51 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +1044 cases (now 666361), +41 deaths (now 30943), +30 recoveries (now 142478) 🔸 Germany: +552 cases (now 58247), +22 deaths (now 455) 🔹 Albania: +2 recoveries (now 33) 🔹 Austria: +75 cases (now 8346) 🔹 Bulgaria: +1 deaths (now 8) 🔹 Czechia: +6 cases (now 2669), +2 deaths (now 13) 🔹 Guam, US: +4 cases (now 55) [... want %more?] | 10:51 |
| twomoon | 38 | 10:51 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 08:48 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Cases globally surpass 660,000, Singapore confirms third death — from r/WorldNews at 08:48: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/53zslH | 10:51 |
| yuriwho | my friend is selling his house in Acton right now | 10:51 |
| IronY | twomoon: fair, after 30 it gets exponential | 10:51 |
| twomoon | this is a good time to sell isn'ti t | 10:51 |
| IronY | Might be if your current in the possesion of two homes | 10:51 |
| yuriwho | well if you can sell it before the buyers figure out whats coming | 10:51 |
| yuriwho | he just bought a house way north | 10:52 |
| IronY | yuriwho: Would they not get locked into our low low low prime for a few years | 10:52 |
| twomoon | why would he move north yuriwho | 10:52 |
| IronY | the toronto sun is begging you guys not to go to your cottages btw | 10:52 |
| pwr22 | <IronY "sYN4P515: lol I straight up just"> Are you license compatible with MIT 😛? | 10:52 |
| yuriwho | he's Native, loves the bush, no need to stay here. He's been planning it for years | 10:53 |
| IronY | pwr22: https://www.github.com/funsociety/mrnodebot , i threw a link to ur github in the comments on that script ;) | 10:53 |
| IronY | ` * Covid 19 Command, inspired by https://github.com/pwr22/covbot/blob/master/covbot.py` | 10:53 |
| yuriwho | IronY: I'm going to my cottage today ;-) | 10:53 |
| IronY | yuriwho: they kinda have a bit of a point though | 10:54 |
| yuriwho | but I don't need to stop anywhere or interact physically with anyone | 10:54 |
| pwr22 | <IronY "Peter Roberts: https://www.githu"> Thanks 🙂. I expect you'd be MIT compatible with almost any license that isn't viral like GPL | 10:54 |
| yuriwho | coming back tuesday | 10:54 |
| IronY | yuriwho: those hospitals will not be able to accommodate you, you seem like an intelligent fella, So I assume you are going to bring supplies rather then run a small towns shops, but a lot of others are not, how ever, the hospital thing applies to even the prepared | 10:54 |
| pwr22 | Except if you used a significant quantify of code you'd have to copy the license somewhere 😅 | 10:55 |
| IronY | pwr22: technically I ported ur code and the credit would have to go to the author of the model, but I like yeah, so Ill give it to yeah lol | 10:55 |
| yuriwho | IronY: no symptoms, I'd drive home at first sign. I know what I am doing | 10:56 |
| IronY | yuriwho: Yeah, your intelligent, just make sure your less intelligent friends don't follow your lead | 10:56 |
| pwr22 | Licenses give me headaches 😭 | 10:56 |
| pwr22 | I like MIT because it lets anyone do pretty much whatever they want with it | 10:57 |
| IronY | I very rarely worry about licences on things I am not charging money for | 10:57 |
| IronY | I let other people worry about licences on things I am | 10:57 |
| ketas | i'll just put bsd on mine | 10:57 |
| ketas | hell with it | 10:57 |
| yuriwho | BSD is why Mac OS X exists | 10:57 |
| ketas | a writte by ketas is enough | 10:58 |
| ketas | :) | 10:58 |
| IronY | Day 16 in ##covid-19, they seem more docile now, we have accepted our fate in this new normal, many of us have taken to science, and programming, there is incredible new work on licence development, I do not remember what my front yard looks like, but there is hope, there is hope, lol | 10:59 |
| yuriwho | lol | 10:59 |
| IronY | My anxiety took a dive around day 15 of my last normal day | 10:59 |
| IronY | now it is about risk mitigation rather then waiting to see how I faired out | 11:00 |
| twomoon | how do i kill anxiety | 11:00 |
| twomoon | my parents are causing anxiety | 11:00 |
| ketas | hydrogen cyanide | 11:00 |
| aradesh | hmm. so if my fatality rate is very low, less than 1% for my age, but my chance to need to go into ICU is 4%, then that probably means that if the hospitals get overwhelmed and i can't go to hospital, but need ICU, then there's a much higher chance of fatality? | 11:00 |
| aradesh | !risk 34 | 11:00 |
| CovBot | I estimate a 34 year old patient sick with COVID-19 has a 99.8% chance of survival, a 14.1% likelihood of needing to go to hospital, a 3.7% risk of needing intensive care there and a 0.2% chance of death. | 11:01 |
| IronY | aradesh: I am skeptical on the statistics for hospitalization | 11:01 |
| twomoon | aradesh you gotta figure out how to avoid the virus until the hospitals are less impacted | 11:01 |
| yuriwho | I'm 9.5% ICU odds | 11:01 |
| IronY | In NY they will give you some air, take some CTS, and send you home | 11:01 |
| IronY | that does how ever count | 11:01 |
| ketas | as ic? | 11:01 |
| IronY | I do not think Hospitalization necessarily means long term inpatient | 11:01 |
| IronY | more, you were admitted for hours to long term | 11:02 |
| ketas | just without "u" | 11:02 |
| aradesh | but it says "intensive care" | 11:02 |
| yuriwho | ICH Intensive Care Hallway | 11:02 |
| IronY | thats the last stat | 11:02 |
| aradesh | 4% need intensive care | 11:02 |
| IronY | that 100% implies hospitalization | 11:02 |
| IronY | but thats a low number | 11:02 |
| IronY | you have about the same percent chance on a lot of things daily | 11:02 |
| aradesh | i suppose then "needs hospitalisation" could mean "feels at least bad enough that they decide to go to hospital" | 11:03 |
| IronY | yeah the second ur name hits a chart ur hospitalized | 11:03 |
| IronY | correct me if i am wrong yuriwho | 11:03 |
| yuriwho | or ICCC Intensive Care Convention Centre | 11:03 |
| IronY | here anyway | 11:03 |
| yuriwho | I'm not sure | 11:04 |
| aradesh | the CEO of a company i used to work for was a doctor who worked in a hospital in the past, and they sent around an email bragging about how he's gone to work back at the hospitals again | 11:05 |
| aradesh | i think that's a good thing, but the fact that they're spamming everyone to brag about it takes away from the good deed a bit to me :P | 11:05 |
| yuriwho | I'll ask a friends wife, she's a Nurse | 11:05 |
| IronY | My sisters a 30 year old OR nurse | 11:05 |
| IronY | my aunts a late 40s or nurse | 11:05 |
| IronY | I try not to think about that | 11:06 |
| twomoon | is there a profilaxis route to avoid the ICU? | 11:06 |
| IronY | twomoon: be healthy | 11:06 |
| twomoon | any drugs i can take | 11:06 |
| IronY | vitamins eat well get enough sleep? | 11:06 |
| yuriwho | no one should self medicate unless you can get some prophylactic Remdesivir | 11:06 |
| IronY | supposedly zinc losenges are good | 11:06 |
| twomoon | damn i hope they don't run out of remdesivir | 11:07 |
| yuriwho | they won't be able to make it fast enough | 11:07 |
| yuriwho | it's hard to synthesize | 11:07 |
| IronY | we started trials at 20 hospitals today | 11:07 |
| twomoon | that's what i thought | 11:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 09:02 UTC: /u/The_Fadge: Patrick Devedjian , ex ministro di Sarkozy , muore di coronavirus nell'arco di cinque giorni. — from r/WorldNews at 09:02: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/fRRgxM | 11:07 |
| IronY | was that of remdesivir? | 11:07 |
| yuriwho | yes | 11:07 |
| IronY | the mentioned a whole litany of compounds | 11:07 |
| yuriwho | dunno about in Canada though | 11:07 |
| IronY | yeah, 20 hospitals in canada | 11:08 |
| twomoon | chloroquine could even run out | 11:08 |
| IronY | are participating in drug trials | 11:08 |
| yuriwho | I would avaoid the Chloroquines until a proper clinical trial | 11:08 |
| yuriwho | avoid | 11:08 |
| IronY | MrNodeBot: covid19-risk 38 | 11:08 |
| MrNodeBot | 00😷 Covid-19 Risks → Age: 38 → Survival: 0399.6471% → Hospitalization: 1216.5667% → ICU: 084.7684% → Death 040.3529% | 11:08 |
| IronY | 0.35 twomoon | 11:08 |
| IronY | relax | 11:08 |
| IronY | honestly man you have that much chance of getting hit by a car on a daily basis | 11:08 |
| IronY | no one wants to go to the icu | 11:09 |
| twomoon | i'm worried about the ICU and being drugged | 11:09 |
| IronY | I am clearly also scared of that | 11:09 |
| IronY | but like, the red number | 11:09 |
| IronY | thats the number you dont come back from | 11:09 |
| IronY | and 0.35% is fairly low | 11:09 |
| twomoon | my whole family on my mom's side doesn't respond well to sedation | 11:09 |
| IronY | on the note of sedation | 11:09 |
| dared | hello | 11:09 |
| twomoon | hi dared | 11:09 |
| yuriwho | probably the best thing for prophylaxis is getting good sleep, eating well and some exercise (away from other humans) | 11:09 |
| IronY | i heard hospitals in the states are running low on fentanoyl | 11:09 |
| dared | please share this website to all: https://masks4all.org/ | 11:09 |
| twomoon | why would you avoid the quines yuriwho ? | 11:09 |
| IronY | how weird would it be if fentanoyl dealers started donating drugs to local hospitals | 11:10 |
| IronY | lol | 11:10 |
| twomoon | they seem well known and well tested | 11:10 |
| twomoon | like it wouldn't hurt much to take a small dosage | 11:10 |
| yuriwho | twomoon: the Clinical data is very sketchy, looks harmful thus far | 11:10 |
| twomoon | it's a super well known drug though | 11:10 |
| dared | I share video from this site | 11:10 |
| IronY | dared: You want me to tell everyone to go get masks that are not available? | 11:10 |
| yuriwho | it's not well known for Covid | 11:10 |
| twomoon | right | 11:10 |
| dared | please check video first | 11:10 |
| IronY | is remdivisableizer new new? | 11:10 |
| yuriwho | unless you believe things Trump says | 11:11 |
| IronY | or was that targeted at something else | 11:11 |
| IronY | I have given up on trying to spell it, as you can see | 11:11 |
| dared | In our country masks are also unavailable, but all people make them at home | 11:12 |
| yuriwho | dared: I'll post it in ##coronavirus | 11:12 |
| dared | more info in video at website, but please share it to all! | 11:12 |
| dared | video is in english | 11:12 |
| dared | thank you for sharing! | 11:13 |
| yuriwho | my wife was gonna sew some up this weekend but she's working FT 12 days straight | 11:13 |
| dared | I hope we help to prevent more spread of this danger virus | 11:14 |
| yuriwho | I'm just gonna make my own from old concert T-shirts, roach clips and rubber bands | 11:15 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health at 09:06 UTC: Coronavirus: Things will get worse before getting better, PM warns: Measures to target coronavirus may get tougher, Boris Johnson says in letter sent to every UK home. — from r/WorldNews at 09:06: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/6R6QA7 | 11:15 |
| dared | this site was created by students in our country, but I think it is necessary to share it with everyone in the world | 11:15 |
| dared | https://masks4all.org/ | 11:16 |
| twomoon | where u located dared | 11:16 |
| yuriwho | wish I hadn't thrown out my 1981 AC/DC tour shirt I got at Maple Leaf Gardens | 11:16 |
| dared | Czech rep | 11:16 |
| twomoon | coo man | 11:16 |
| yuriwho | a woman in Toronto started a Sewing Army on facebook to with plans and sourced cloth to make masks for frontline medical staff. The group is uuuuuuugggggeeee! | 11:17 |
| dared | pandemic is already overgrowing all of us and needs to be slowed down as quickly as possible, otherwise people will die more and more | 11:18 |
| yuriwho | did you guys see the crazy freenode move today to shut down #coronavirus and move it to ## | 11:18 |
| dared | do not rely on national governments and start wearing masks yourself, even at the cost of making them at home | 11:20 |
| IronY | yuriwho: I got caught up in it | 11:20 |
| IronY | yuriwho: and I am not even in the channe | 11:20 |
| yuriwho | I'm also gonna build a J-pole antenna today from old copper pipe, fittings etc. | 11:21 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +2276 cases (now 668637), +82 deaths (now 31025), +306 recoveries (now 142784) 🔸 Belgium: +1702 cases (now 10836), +78 deaths (now 431), +296 recoveries (now 1359) 🔹 Albania: +2 recoveries (now 33) 🔹 Austria: +124 cases (now 8395) 🔹 Bulgaria: +1 deaths (now 8) 🔹 Czechia: +6 cases (now 2669), +2 deaths (now 13) 🔹 Finland: +3 cases (now 1221) [... want %more?] | 11:21 |
| yuriwho | IronY: was that for link piping? | 11:21 |
| p2hang | Yeah, I see that #coronavirus got moved to ## - what's that all about | 11:21 |
| IronY | yuriwho: was asked to move the bot to the new channel, Did not add an extra # to the greeter command | 11:21 |
| IronY | so it sent 5 people invites when the entered | 11:21 |
| IronY | immedietley got a sysop message | 11:21 |
| IronY | someone has it out for you guys | 11:21 |
| IronY | when i say was asked, i mean the admins of said channel asked me to move the bot to their new channel | 11:22 |
| yuriwho | p2hang: someone with influence got banned and complained to staff IMO | 11:22 |
| IronY | yuriwho: yep that makes sense | 11:22 |
| IronY | yuriwho: any idea who | 11:22 |
| yuriwho | no comment | 11:22 |
| IronY | Anyone I would suspect :P | 11:22 |
| merethan | You should deny it to make it sound more credible. | 11:22 |
| yuriwho | we are not sure | 11:23 |
| merethan | No rumor is to be believed until it has been officially denied ;) | 11:23 |
| yuriwho | anyway, freenode got their knickers in a twist | 11:23 |
| IronY | the # vs ## rule is a little weird to enforce given the circumstances | 11:23 |
| IronY | like that is a far reach | 11:23 |
| merethan | What does ## mean anyway? | 11:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 09:15 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Cases globally surpass 660,000, Singapore confirms third death — from r/WorldNews at 09:15: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/53zslH | 11:23 |
| IronY | on freenode # is reserved for official organizations | 11:23 |
| yuriwho | merethan: not officially sanctioned by freenode | 11:24 |
| IronY | for example, the people who could claim #coronavirus are technically the who | 11:24 |
| IronY | but that in itself makes no sense | 11:24 |
| yuriwho | I co-founded #space in 2003 or so, it's still there with no official org | 11:24 |
| IronY | basically it is something that is not enforced until someone as yuriwho said, with influence, wants to take you down a peg | 11:24 |
| twomoon | The example of the Czech republic is outstanding. Thanks to solidarity among people, social media sharing, and home-made sewing, almost all of the 10 million inhabitants were equipped with masks within 3 days. And the data showed that this has significantly changed the speed of the spread of coronavirus in the country | 11:25 |
| twomoon | i'm really proud of cz republic dared | 11:25 |
| IronY | well, I have a gf who knows just enough sewing to make masks | 11:25 |
| IronY | so ill get on that tomorrow, i bought her a sewing machine literally 3 months ago | 11:25 |
| IronY | this is all super convenient... | 11:25 |
| twomoon | is it hard to find elastic right now | 11:26 |
| IronY | I have a 3d printer | 11:30 |
| IronY | there are some nice moldable fittings | 11:30 |
| IronY | basically you 3d print, use hot water to make print malleable, then confirm it to your exact face shape | 11:30 |
| Urchin | I've ordered elastic from china via ebay a few days ago | 11:31 |
| Urchin | takes a while to arrive | 11:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 09:25 UTC: UK coronavirus live: lockdown measures will be in place for 'significant period', says Gove: All the day’s developments in the UK Covid-19 crisis, as Labour MP and doctor Rosena Allin-Khan says Boris Johnson should self-isolate for 14 days — from r/WorldNews at 09:25: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/ucQWhr | 11:32 |
| aradesh | i'm still expecting the UK to make the lockdowns even more stringent at some point | 11:32 |
| aradesh | because ti still seems kind of half-hearted | 11:33 |
| aradesh | people don't really seem to be following the advice of the government | 11:33 |
| aradesh | and it's extremely hard to avoid spread when people go shopping | 11:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 09:42 UTC: /u/pixelcraftables: Giappone — from r/WorldNews at 09:42: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/iT9n3l | 11:48 |
| yuriwho | some idiot in ##coronavirus is arguing that vaccine testing should only take a week or two | 11:49 |
| Urchin | aradesh: so Italy scenario | 11:50 |
| mefistofeles | yuriwho: heh, not surprised xD | 11:52 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 09:51 UTC: /u/pixelcraftables: Scienza — from r/WorldNews at 09:51: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/LEPQzT | 11:56 |
| sh4d0wme[m] | <yuriwho "some idiot in ##coronavirus is a"> Any nucleic acid vaccine (as the one from Moderna) will be de-facto untested, no matter what they say. Possible negative long term implications of it's use, like the eventuality of unwanted recombination with endogenous retroviral sequences, will only appear in the vaccinated population. Not at all a favorable risk/benefit balance scenario, if you ask me. Depending on the | 11:59 |
| sh4d0wme[m] | goal, of course. | 11:59 |
| yuriwho | sh4d0wme[m]: I said "lets say that as a side effect, the vaccine makes all men who take it sterile as a side effect, but that takes 2 years before it happens" | 12:00 |
| IronY | If you guys are interested, I aggregate links from this channel and the other covid channel https://bot.fsociety.online/coronalinks | 12:03 |
| yuriwho | if nothing else, this coronavirus is teaching a lot of people about the realities of the drug-development business and vaccines as well as hygiene, aseptic technique, virology and medicine in general | 12:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 09:54 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Lack of testing raises fears of coronavirus surge in eastern Europe — from r/WorldNews at 09:54: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/X5A2t7 | 12:04 |
| yuriwho | 'I'm a virologist' will become a pickup line at bars | 12:05 |
| IronY | Not a very good one if ur in the bar | 12:05 |
| IronY | ;) | 12:05 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +511 cases (now 669148), +51 deaths (now 31076), +334 recoveries (now 143118) 🔹 Albania: +15 cases (now 212), +2 recoveries (now 33) 🔹 Austria: +124 cases (now 8395), +18 deaths (now 86), +254 recoveries (now 479) 🔹 Bosnia and Herzegovina: +45 cases (now 323) 🔹 Estonia: +34 cases (now 679), +2 deaths (now 3) 🔹 Ethiopia: +3 cases (now 19) [... want %more?] | 12:06 |
| sh4d0wme[m] | <yuriwho "sh4d0wme: I said "lets say that "> I agree. Not that it would be the worst side effect allowed to happen, though. | 12:06 |
| v0idkr4ft[m] | Where's Paul stammets with those anti viral mushrooms when you need him. | 12:07 |
| calbasi_matrix | <IronY "Not a very good one if ur in the"> :-) | 12:07 |
| yuriwho | Stammets is an interesting guy | 12:07 |
| yuriwho | he did a Joe Rogan interview if anyone want to google it | 12:08 |
| yuriwho | Joe knows his shrooms too | 12:08 |
| v0idkr4ft[m] | https://stillnessinthestorm.com/2019/12/agarikon-mushroom-benefits-strongest-anti-viral-tuberculosis-treatment-and-protection-from-archons/ | 12:10 |
| IronY | might be a good time to invest in a hyperbolic chamber | 12:11 |
| IronY | call it my safe room | 12:11 |
| IronY | http://test.com | 12:12 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 10:05 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Cases globally surpass 660,000, Spain sees highest daily jump in deaths — from r/WorldNews at 10:05: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/53zslH | 12:13 |
| IronY | http://test.com | 12:13 |
| yuriwho | hmm, how about an epsom salt isolation hyperbaric chamber | 12:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 10:09 UTC: UK coronavirus live: lockdown measures will be in place for 'significant period', says Gove: All the day’s developments in the UK Covid-19 crisis, as Labour MP and doctor Rosena Allin-Khan says Boris Johnson should self-isolate for 14 days — from r/WorldNews at 10:09: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/ucQWhr | 12:21 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +3314 cases (now 672462), +123 deaths (now 31199), +751 recoveries (now 143869) 🔸 Iran: +2901 cases (now 38309), +123 deaths (now 2640), +712 recoveries (now 12391) 🔹 Albania: +15 cases (now 212), +2 recoveries (now 33) 🔹 Austria: +140 cases (now 8411), +18 deaths (now 86), +254 recoveries (now 479) 🔹 Bosnia and Herzegovina: +45 cases (now 323) [... want %more?] | 12:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 10:24 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Cases globally surpass 660,000, Spain sees highest daily jump in deaths — from r/WorldNews at 10:24: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/53zslH | 12:29 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +5562 cases (now 678024), +546 deaths (now 31745), +2424 recoveries (now 146293) 🔸 Spain: +5562 cases (now 78797), +546 deaths (now 6528), +2424 recoveries (now 14709) 🔹 Albania: +15 cases (now 212), +2 recoveries (now 33) 🔹 Austria: +140 cases (now 8411), +18 deaths (now 86), +254 recoveries (now 479) 🔹 Bosnia and Herzegovina: +45 cases (now 323) [... want %more?] | 12:36 |
| IronY | yuriwho: When looking at shelve lives of the virus on a surface | 12:36 |
| IronY | where does 95 factor in as far has material | 12:37 |
| IronY | meaning, with half life, can a n95 mask sit there for 2 weeks and naturally disinfect itself? | 12:37 |
| yuriwho | usual rule of thumb is 5 half lives till it's gone | 12:37 |
| IronY | hrm | 12:38 |
| yuriwho | I'd have to examine better data to see if it's following exponential decay | 12:38 |
| Birosso | %cases india | 12:43 |
| Brainstorm | Birosso: In all areas, India, there are 987 cases, 25 deaths (2.5% of cases), 87 recoveries as of March 29, 10:28Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=India for time series data. | 12:43 |
| Birosso | %cases germany | 12:44 |
| Brainstorm | Birosso: In all areas, Germany, there are 58247 cases, 455 deaths (0.8% of cases), 8481 recoveries as of March 29, 10:28Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Germany for time series data. Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 0.3% (assuming deaths/cases with ⅔ of cases undetected), and less than 5.1% (considering only deaths and recoveries). | 12:44 |
| IronY | now a bad death rate | 12:44 |
| IronY | you go germany! | 12:44 |
| yuriwho | looks like the german medical system is top notch | 12:58 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 11:14 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: Spain records new highest daily death toll; Australia limits public gatherings to two — from r/WorldNews at 11:14: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/fx946D | 13:18 |
| IronY | wooohoo | 13:28 |
| IronY | "Environment Canada says anywhere from 25 mm to 40 mm of rain is possible. Totals will be greater in areas that experience thunderstorms." | 13:28 |
| IronY | free city wash day! | 13:28 |
| jcay | wooh, my PC works on covid this very moment https://jcay.be/rosetta.png | 13:31 |
| aradesh | UK corona deaths graph... really does not look promising :/ https://i.imgur.com/r9SV25A.png | 13:32 |
| PlanckWalk | Aus chief medical officer: "We feel reasonably confident that we are detecting a significant majority of the cases in Australia." | 13:34 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +1257 cases (now 679281), +34 deaths (now 31779), +25 recoveries (now 146318) 🔸 Portugal: +792 cases (now 5962), +19 deaths (now 119) 🔹 Albania: +15 cases (now 212), +2 recoveries (now 33) 🔹 Andorra: +1 deaths (now 4) 🔹 Austria: +179 cases (now 8450), +18 deaths (now 86), +254 recoveries (now 479) 🔹 Bahrain: +23 cases (now 499), +7 recoveries (now 272) [... want %more?] | 13:36 |
| PlanckWalk | I feel like I'm at that point in a movie seconds before a tidal wave of virus bursts through the wall behind the podium. | 13:39 |
| aradesh | do we know that people who are testing positive for covid-19, are actually infected with covid-19, and not another strain of coronavirus? i wonder how precise the tests are | 13:39 |
| davidmpye[m] | precise enough to answer that question | 13:40 |
| davidmpye[m] | the biggest test problem is false negatives | 13:41 |
| p2hang | We had tests that were counting extra water in the blood content as positive for COVID19 | 13:41 |
| aradesh | so not false positives too? like, if we're over-reporting cases, it could be that the virus is more deadly than we think | 13:41 |
| davidmpye[m] | p2hang: what kind of tests are these? PCR based tests seem unlikely to have this issue | 13:42 |
| davidmpye[m] | aradesh: not for PCR | 13:42 |
| PlanckWalk | False positives are not very frequent, false negatives are more. | 13:42 |
| PlanckWalk | (Provided the tests weren't the broken ones) | 13:42 |
| p2hang | PCR tests take much longer than you think to process. The first rapid tests, which are enzyme based had a huge false negative rate. | 13:42 |
| davidmpye[m] | We've had a number of cases that have had, say 2 negative swabs (with symptoms), who then test positive a day or two later | 13:42 |
| davidmpye[m] | and it's not a fresh infection | 13:42 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 11:37 UTC: /u/pixelcraftables: Spagna — from r/WorldNews at 11:37: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/VPZXsK | 13:43 |
| davidmpye[m] | p2hang: what's your definition of rapid? our PCR turnarounds are <24hr (doing 3 runs a day) | 13:43 |
| aradesh | i saw this article, where the author claims that the standard PCR test is no good, and is going to give a lot of false positives: https://www.globalresearch.ca/manufactured-pandemic-testing-people-any-strain-coronavirus-not-specifically-covid-19/5707781 | 13:43 |
| davidmpye[m] | i'm assuming you mean the 10-30min ones? | 13:43 |
| davidmpye[m] | I definitely get my facts from globalresearch.ca | 13:44 |
| aradesh | "The problem is the test is known not to work." | 13:44 |
| IronY | I would guess false positives are better then false negatives | 13:44 |
| IronY | isolating a false positive vs not isolating a false negative | 13:44 |
| p2hang | I do mean those. The ones the CDC were pumping in amid the mass hysteria. I'm looking for the paper about water skewing the results | 13:44 |
| aradesh | author says "I work in the healthcare field. Here’s the problem, we are testing people for any strain of a Coronavirus. Not specifically for COVID-19." | 13:44 |
| davidmpye[m] | an anti-globalisation tinfoil helmet site isn't the best place to get 'news' | 13:44 |
| aradesh | but is that true or not? | 13:45 |
| PlanckWalk | That's not exactly a credible site | 13:45 |
| davidmpye[m] | Our PCR based tests are indeed capable of distinguishing | 13:45 |
| PlanckWalk | (But will read the article anyway) | 13:45 |
| aradesh | ok | 13:45 |
| davidmpye[m] | the enzyme ones? No idea, as I dont have access to those, or any real info about them | 13:45 |
| PlanckWalk | Yeah, that article is down to their usual standards. | 13:46 |
| p2hang | here's the PCR whitepaper anyways: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/downloads/rt-pcr-panel-for-detection-instructions.pdf?fbclid=IwAR3MGvMzDqxxgkmrOLm0Mp-Ia8hPdjnNqkkVmrd7ClCY48iOQaVISdDGezs | 13:46 |
| p2hang | OK, can't find the whitepaper. But basically from here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/03/16/cdc-who-coronavirus-tests/ | 13:49 |
| p2hang | China sent a bunch of tests that were not PCR based to the US. The US and the CDC held them back, because the efficacy was unknown. When people paniced and said "release the tests" eventually the CDC did. Then they started testing that process independently and found a high failure rate in the testing. | 13:49 |
| aradesh | it seems to be written in good english though, and it raises an important question as to whether these tests are really accurately testing for covid-19 or not | 13:49 |
| davidmpye[m] | fuck me. If the bar is for believability is 'its written in good english', then we're all fucked. | 13:50 |
| davidmpye[m] | why even bothe.r | 13:50 |
| aradesh | doesn't mean that this isn't a question to answer | 13:50 |
| davidmpye[m] | an article on a random antiglobalisation site,which quotes an unidentified professional, on an unidentified 'forum'. | 13:50 |
| PlanckWalk | They do test specifically for sars-cov-2 | 13:50 |
| aradesh | okay | 13:50 |
| davidmpye[m] | exactly. but who needs experts anyway. | 13:50 |
| p2hang | I think the problem is moving and developing so fast, that peer review is being shortened or eliminated in a lot of this. That's why there's a lot of questions. I'm not seeing much with the NE Journal of Medicine or a lot of scientific outlets, but that may be more due to publishing cycle than anything else. | 13:50 |
| aradesh | davidmpye[m]: no need to be like that, i'm just curious if that point is based in reality or not | 13:51 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 11:45 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: lockdown measures will be in place for 'significant period', says Gove — from r/WorldNews at 11:45: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/ucQWhr | 13:51 |
| aradesh | don't care about the source of the question :P | 13:51 |
| aradesh | question is a question regardless of where it came from | 13:51 |
| mefistofeles | what are you arguing about? :P | 13:51 |
| aradesh | article on a dodgy site that recokns the PSR tests being given out to hospitals identiy any coronavirus strain, rather than specifically covid-19 | 13:52 |
| aradesh | so i was wondering if that's true | 13:52 |
| p2hang | Well, we have the CDC whitepaper to look at now, it should shine some light on that | 13:52 |
| mefistofeles | oh sure it is specific | 13:52 |
| aradesh | thanks | 13:52 |
| mefistofeles | they test for other viruses as well, of course, since coinfection exists | 13:53 |
| PlanckWalk | All PCR tests are based on gene fragments not whole RNA sequences, but the fragments are chosen to be specific (and ideally conserved) in the target | 13:53 |
| aradesh | p2hang: meh. it's all ad block defended | 13:53 |
| p2hang | The CDC paper? | 13:54 |
| aradesh | the washington post article you linked | 13:54 |
| p2hang | Above that is the actual CDC paper about the PCR test including testing assays and controls | 13:54 |
| p2hang | https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/downloads/rt-pcr-panel-for-detection-instructions.pdf | 13:54 |
| p2hang | From what it looks like, they want 3 unique DNA markers, within a certain concentration. That's actually quite specific for a virus. | 13:56 |
| aradesh | maybe the person that wrote my article is a bit like my dad | 13:56 |
| p2hang | Might not be perfect - but I'd be confident about it being COVID after looking at this | 13:56 |
| mefistofeles | yeah, I've seen that the actual tricky part is getting a good sample | 13:56 |
| PlanckWalk | There are different tests with different conditions, but all quite specific. | 13:56 |
| aradesh | technically educated in the field, and intelligent and writes well, but is prone to coming up with their own wild theories and then presenting them as fact | 13:56 |
| aradesh | my dad does that a lot | 13:56 |
| aradesh | with various stuff | 13:57 |
| aradesh | either way, there's no way it can be a scam now, too many people dying | 13:57 |
| aradesh | so maybe that article was written when it was much earlier on | 13:57 |
| PlanckWalk | Yes :( | 13:57 |
| PlanckWalk | It was written two days ago, apparently | 13:57 |
| aradesh | oh | 13:58 |
| aradesh | lol | 13:58 |
| aradesh | weird | 13:58 |
| p2hang | https://nextstrain.org/ncov | 13:58 |
| p2hang | This is interesting, tracking the mutations in known sequencing of the virus | 13:58 |
| python47` | o/ | 13:59 |
| aradesh | hi | 13:59 |
| python47` | hihi | 13:59 |
| mefistofeles | p2hang: yeah, it is in the topic url resources | 13:59 |
| p2hang | It's way cut off on my client, didn't see it | 13:59 |
| aradesh | type /topic | 13:59 |
| p2hang | neat. It's been several years since I've been on IRC. Commands and stuff are there, just rusty as all heck | 14:02 |
| aradesh | i guess time will tell to see how accurate the PSR tests are in reality though, i guess it's kind of hard to measure this already in such a short period of time | 14:05 |
| python476 | o/^2 | 14:05 |
| python476 | how is it goign | 14:05 |
| python476 | going* | 14:05 |
| mefistofeles | aradesh: PCR | 14:05 |
| aradesh | to verify their accuracy it probably takes very expensive tests, and comparisons against other forms of the virus | 14:05 |
| aradesh | PCR* | 14:05 |
| aradesh | :) | 14:05 |
| mefistofeles | aradesh: and tbh, this is a pretty well validated technique | 14:05 |
| mefistofeles | it has errors of course, but the worse case is tuned to give a false positive, as usual | 14:06 |
| aradesh | okay | 14:06 |
| aradesh | yeah, but how many false positives? it'd be interesting to know | 14:06 |
| aradesh | and we won't know actually until it has been more widely studied, i guess, in this specific case. | 14:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 12:00 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: Spain records new highest daily death toll; Australia limits public gatherings to two — from r/WorldNews at 12:00: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/fx946D | 14:07 |
| yuriwho | normally new diagnostics have to be trialed vs a gold standard medical or lab testing measure. Takes about 2 years for a brand new diagnostic to be developed. There was no time for that in this case, so the CDC decided to make an overly complicated (but high specific) assay then shipped it and started comparing it will all the other assays after it had been shipped, this caused the delay in CDC's test. By the time | 14:17 |
| yuriwho | they sorted out the problems with the kit (bad control primer/contamination) and started producing the assay in vol, the rest of the world had bought out the global supply of the RNA isolation kits. The RNA kits are used to prepare a patient sample before using it in the SARS-CoV-2 test the CDC had developed......so no testing was getting done. The US Gov then threatened all the kit manufacturers and Roche magically | 14:17 |
| yuriwho | produced RNA and SARS-Cov-2 kits overnight considering they were threatened with losing their diagnostics cash cow US market. <--- and thus the US FINALLY began testing for the novel coronavirus in earnest. | 14:17 |
| mefistofeles | yeah | 14:19 |
| mefistofeles | yuriwho: there's a nice article from the new yorker as well, about it, inc ase you've missed it | 14:20 |
| mefistofeles | it should be there in the url in the topic | 14:20 |
| yuriwho | missed that | 14:20 |
| mefistofeles | it's a bit long, but well written | 14:20 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +1548 cases (now 680829), +141 deaths (now 31920), +33 recoveries (now 146351) 🔸 Netherlands: +1104 cases (now 10866), +132 deaths (now 771) 🔹 Afghanistan: +10 cases (now 120) 🔹 Albania: +15 cases (now 212), +2 recoveries (now 33) 🔹 Andorra: +1 deaths (now 4) 🔹 Austria: +215 cases (now 8486), +18 deaths (now 86), +254 recoveries (now 479) [... want %more?] | 14:21 |
| mefistofeles | good thing Italy, Germany and France are already showing signs of getting over it, Spain less, sadly | 14:26 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 12:29 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Cases globally surpass 660,000, Spain sees highest daily jump in deaths — from r/WorldNews at 12:29: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/53zslH | 14:32 |
| python476 | what about portugal ? | 14:33 |
| COVID-19Hangouts | %cases portugal | 14:34 |
| Brainstorm | COVID-19Hangouts: In all areas, Portugal, there are 5962 cases, 119 deaths (2.0% of cases), 43 recoveries as of March 29, 12:19Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Portugal for time series data. | 14:34 |
| mefistofeles | portugal not so much, still, but they aren't as affected as others, so it depends | 14:35 |
| sYN4P515 | !corona pt | 14:36 |
| CoronaBot | Portugal: Global rank: 04#15, cases: 075,962 (+792), fatalities: 04119 (+19), active cases: 045,800, total recovered: 0943, in a serious condition: 0489. Case fatality rate: 04-, mortality: 042.00%, cases/1M: 04585.0, deaths/1M: 0412.0. Case rate: 04902/day, death rate: 0424/day. | 14:36 |
| python476 | I mailed my city hall for their covid help group | 14:37 |
| python476 | but seeing how less predictable the age-death pattern is | 14:37 |
| python476 | I kinda regret it | 14:37 |
| mefistofeles | python476: what do you mean? it is still the same for age groups | 14:38 |
| python476 | mefistofeles: in france a 16yo died rapidly | 14:38 |
| python476 | we hear a bit more young healthy death | 14:38 |
| mefistofeles | python476: nobody said it doesn't kill young people :/ | 14:38 |
| python476 | "a bit more" | 14:38 |
| mefistofeles | not really | 14:38 |
| python476 | maybe that's just news bias | 14:38 |
| python476 | also the disease seems to evolve weirdly | 14:39 |
| python476 | people stabilized relapse few days after and die | 14:39 |
| mefistofeles | I mean, the whatever 0.x% of killing young people, for over 500k cases is still a lot of people and a lot of news for sure | 14:39 |
| python476 | some ex minister had this yesterday | 14:39 |
| python476 | mefistofeles: ok, i'm fear-reacting | 14:40 |
| python476 | but it still kills the desire I had to go out (protected) and help | 14:40 |
| mefistofeles | python476: ok, you can back down anytime, I guess | 14:41 |
| python476 | yeah sure | 14:42 |
| python476 | do you know websites discussing the economic state and food supply ? | 14:43 |
| python476 | I'm trying to anticipate | 14:43 |
| mefistofeles | I don't, not sure if there's something in the resources link in the topic | 14:43 |
| python476 | gonna check | 14:44 |
| Timvde | Oh, that bot has colours :o | 14:47 |
| Timvde | !corona Belgium | 14:47 |
| CoronaBot | Belgium: Global rank: 04#11, cases: 0710,836 (+1,702), fatalities: 04431 (+78), active cases: 049,046, total recovered: 091,359, in a serious condition: 04867. Case fatality rate: 0424.08%, mortality: 043.98%, cases/1M: 04935.0, deaths/1M: 0437.0. Case rate: 041,850/day, death rate: 0464/day. | 14:47 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 12:46 UTC: /u/pixelcraftables: India — from r/WorldNews at 12:46: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/UepP10 | 14:48 |
| mefistofeles | Timvde: yeah, it's a new one we are trying, I like the info and colors, I don't like it's not open source :P | 14:51 |
| Timvde | Oh, yea... Who created it? | 14:52 |
| Timvde | Is there any reason why you didn't open source it? Or is it still on the planning? | 14:53 |
| sYN4P515 | yeah, i still on plan doing it | 14:54 |
| sYN4P515 | i need to cleanup code and do some refactoring | 14:54 |
| sYN4P515 | its a part of bigger irc bot project | 14:54 |
| mefistofeles | yeah, I'm not implying you should :) but... it would be nice | 14:55 |
| sYN4P515 | i don't want ppl to make fun of my code :) | 14:55 |
| mefistofeles | sYN4P515: hah, ok... I get that, but fuck'em :P | 14:55 |
| python476 | git flam | 14:56 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 12:51 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Global cases near 700,000, Gov. Phil Murphy responds to CDC's tri-state area travel advisory — from r/WorldNews at 12:51: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/vg1XLV | 14:56 |
| Timvde | sYN4P515: or... people could help you improve it? | 15:04 |
| python476 | Timvde: open sourcing can be tugh | 15:04 |
| python476 | tough* | 15:04 |
| python476 | dealing with random people is tiring | 15:04 |
| Timvde | I know | 15:04 |
| python476 | I'm having trouble dealing with me | 15:05 |
| Timvde | I had one open source initiative that took off, then died because I was too perfectionist and didn't have enough time to keep on testing and fixing people's code | 15:05 |
| python476 | that too | 15:06 |
| sYN4P515 | i have enough trouble fixing my own code lol | 15:06 |
| python476 | my code is perfect out of the box | 15:09 |
| python476 | it's zero in length | 15:09 |
| python476 | bugless | 15:09 |
| sYN4P515 | smart! | 15:09 |
| sYN4P515 | deploy to nowhere | 15:10 |
| python476 | in the nil cloud | 15:12 |
| python476 | so OMS manager bailed when asked about taiwan and danced around before quitting | 15:13 |
| python476 | I don't like that reality is like a shitty b-movie | 15:13 |
| python476 | this shows many countries growth https://www.lemonde.fr/les-decodeurs/article/2020/03/27/coronavirus-visualisez-les-pays-qui-ont-aplati-la-courbe-de-l-infection-et-ceux-qui-n-y-sont-pas-encore-parvenus_6034627_4355770.html | 15:17 |
| python476 | I'm still stumped how there are such vast differences between countries | 15:17 |
| python476 | planned trials (non peer reviewed yet) https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.18.20038190v2 | 15:20 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 13:17 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Gov. Phil Murphy responds to CDC's tri-state area travel advisory, Chanel has workshops make face masks — from r/WorldNews at 13:17: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/vg1XLV | 15:21 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +3051 cases (now 683880), +227 deaths (now 32147), +44 recoveries (now 146395) 🔸 United Kingdom: +2433 cases (now 19522), +209 deaths (now 1228) 🔹 Afghanistan: +10 cases (now 120) 🔹 Albania: +15 cases (now 212), +2 recoveries (now 33) 🔹 Andorra: +1 deaths (now 4) 🔹 Austria: +265 cases (now 8536), +18 deaths (now 86), +254 recoveries (now 479) [... want %more?] | 15:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 13:27 UTC: Scenes of cities shut down by the coronavirus pandemic: Cities around the world have been brought to a halt as governments ask citizens to stay inside until the pandemic — from r/WorldNews at 13:27: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/erFGlr | 15:29 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 13:34 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: States ramp up testing, Gov. Phil Murphy responds to CDC's tri-state area travel advisory — from r/WorldNews at 13:34: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/vg1XLV | 15:37 |
| aradesh | ouch. seems the brazilian president is in denial about coronavirus | 15:41 |
| aradesh | saying it's just a flu, carry on like normal | 15:41 |
| aradesh | another 208 here today in the UK | 15:43 |
| darsie | Maybe he doesn't care if 5% of Brazilians die. | 15:43 |
| darsie | He must have advisors telling him otherwise. | 15:44 |
| aradesh | yes, apparently he disagrees with his chief health minister | 15:44 |
| aradesh | and meanwhile he's going around meeting crowds of supporters shaking everyones hands, the president. | 15:44 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 13:42 UTC: Scenes of cities shut down by the coronavirus pandemic: Cities around the world have been brought to a halt as governments ask citizens to stay inside until the pandemic — from r/WorldNews at 13:42: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/erFGlr | 15:45 |
| darsie | He's 65 years old. Might not live much longer. | 15:48 |
| python476 | aradesh: bolsonaro is in denial about a lot of things | 15:49 |
| darsie | Brazil has lower doubling time than USA. | 15:51 |
| darsie | higher* | 15:51 |
| darsie | Brazilians could social distance voluntarily. | 15:52 |
| darsie | But staying away from a job without government help is difficult. | 15:52 |
| python476 | yeah | 15:53 |
| python476 | and some part of brazil are packed | 15:53 |
| python476 | rio favellas, good luck staying in for long time | 15:53 |
| aradesh | darsie: yeah what percentage of people is that gonna be? probably fewer than 15% who will be able to apply safe social distancing against government advice | 15:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 13:43 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus US live: Pelosi says Trump's inaction cost American lives — from r/WorldNews at 13:43: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/5WcKMY | 15:54 |
| aradesh | most people just don't have a choice when the rest of the world carries on like normal | 15:54 |
| darsie | The rest of Brazil. | 15:54 |
| aradesh | yup | 15:54 |
| aradesh | that's what i mean sorry | 15:54 |
| darsie | np :) | 15:54 |
| aradesh | the rest of your world | 15:54 |
| dzho | > saying it's just a flu, carry on like normal | 15:55 |
| python476 | yeah good on people with wide spaces around | 15:55 |
| aradesh | he's been calling it a scam and such | 15:55 |
| python476 | I've spent 3 years thinking of buying farm land for cheap | 15:55 |
| aradesh | python476: maybe it'll become cheaper soon... :) | 15:55 |
| python476 | well worst case scenario: the whole planet becomes free | 15:56 |
| dzho | a key thing I really don't see mentioned is that the big difference between flu and COVID-19 is that health care workers and emergency responders typically all get immunized against flu, and thus have significant protection from it. Since nothing of the sort is possible with COVID. | 15:56 |
| dzho | all of the pieces of that statement are there to be inferred by anyone | 15:56 |
| dzho | so it's not necessarily news | 15:57 |
| dzho | but people aren't good at logic | 15:57 |
| dzho | generally speaking | 15:57 |
| darsie | Let's hope ppl elect smarter presidents in the future. | 15:58 |
| dzho | some of these more ... shall we say, instinctive? "leaders" could really do with someone who breaks it down for them that explicitly | 15:58 |
| darsie | Isn't there a process to remove Bolsanaro from office? | 15:58 |
| python476 | yeah covid has no vaccine to reduce spread too | 15:58 |
| python476 | this contagion made clear that a lot of tiny issues can turn into a disaster | 15:58 |
| dzho | python476: right. | 16:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 13:58 UTC: /u/pixelcraftables: Regno Unito — from r/WorldNews at 13:58: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/Zvx3ND | 16:02 |
| python476 | some tips summary from dr dave price - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P7x0dNQs_I | 16:02 |
| dzho | python476: and that's just what I mean, I think most people understand that there's no vaccine. Some think one might come soon, some later. But the one thing that "oh it's no worse than the flu" miss is that a huge thing that makes flu less bad than it could be is vaccination. | 16:03 |
| dzho | vaccination even for flu isn't great, and flu is still pretty bad | 16:04 |
| dzho | but this one differential--how it plays out with health care workers (and with other especially vulnerable people) stands as a huge difference | 16:05 |
| dzho | there is a lot of performative callousness about vulnerable populations, but wanting healthcare workers and hospital beds to be available if one needs it is pure self-interest | 16:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 14:06 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: States ramp up testing, Gov. Phil Murphy responds to CDC's tri-state area travel advisory — from r/WorldNews at 14:06: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/vg1XLV | 16:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 14:13 UTC: Scenes of cities shut down by the coronavirus pandemic: Cities around the world have been brought to a halt as governments ask citizens to stay inside until the pandemic — from r/WorldNews at 14:13: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/erFGlr | 16:16 |
| mefistofeles | https://e-vent.mit.edu/ | 16:25 |
| aradesh | there are rumours that the UK is going to increase its restrictions tomorrow | 16:26 |
| aradesh | i wonder what they'll do | 16:26 |
| mefistofeles | ban infected PMs | 16:26 |
| mefistofeles | ;) | 16:26 |
| aradesh | they've already trapped him in his office | 16:27 |
| LjL | aradesh, well not just rumors, Johnson pretty much said it | 16:27 |
| azy | im not sure how they could increase it | 16:28 |
| aradesh | ah, i had only seen rumours | 16:28 |
| aradesh | LjL: have they hinted at what they will be? | 16:28 |
| LjL | i am not sure | 16:28 |
| LjL | i forget right now, i thought you were at like italy v1.5 like i said last time | 16:28 |
| LjL | but i'm forgetting *what* is missing | 16:28 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 14:24 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Fauci backs New York travel advisory as de Blasio says medical supplies are running low in NYC — from r/WorldNews at 14:24: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/vg1XLV | 16:29 |
| LjL | all non-essential work activities are closed now, not just shops, right? | 16:29 |
| aradesh | they're strongly advised to be | 16:30 |
| aradesh | but i don't think they actually are in practice | 16:30 |
| aradesh | or many aren't | 16:30 |
| aradesh | as every company considers themselves essential | 16:30 |
| aradesh | i mean my work activities aren't closed, because i can do them from home | 16:31 |
| aradesh | i've still seen builders working on buildings | 16:32 |
| aradesh | and stuff like that | 16:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 14:34 UTC: UK coronavirus live: 209 deaths in 24 hours takes UK toll to 1,228: Lockdown will be in place for ‘significant period’, says Gove; Labour MP and doctor Rosena Allin-Khan says Boris Johnson should self-isolate for 14 days — from r/WorldNews at 14:34: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/ucQWhr | 16:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 14:40 UTC: /u/The_Fadge: Anthony Fauci , il maggiore esperto americano di malattie infettive, dichiara: temiamo fra i 100.000 e i 200.000 morti — from r/WorldNews at 14:40: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/oAUM9J | 16:47 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 14:47 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Fauci backs New York travel advisory as de Blasio says medical supplies are running low in NYC — from r/WorldNews at 14:47: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/vg1XLV | 16:53 |
| Jigsy | KHAAAAAAAN! (o( | 16:53 |
| LjL | Clippy, cute | 16:57 |
| Clippy | Why am I allowed to use a registered nick without identifying it? | 16:58 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 14:58 UTC: /u/slakmehl: Bloomberg - Are you a robot? — from r/WorldNews at 14:58: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/n8kKYB | 17:00 |
| LjL | Birosso, because who's stopping you? actually you can be nearly-stopped by someone setting a flag on their nick, but that still gives you 30 seconds to change your nick before it evicts you | 17:00 |
| Birosso | Yes, I'm familiar with the 30-second rule. I expected that to kick in without having to set a flag. | 17:01 |
| Birosso | This explains a lot of weird PMs. | 17:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 15:00 UTC: /u/slakmehl: Bloomberg su Twitter: "Indonesia may soon quarantine almost 30 million people in its capital and surrounding areas to curb the spread of the coronavirus https://t.co/Jb8hZed1E1" — from r/WorldNews at 15:00: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/9Kazgy | 17:06 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +1137 cases (now 685017), +41 deaths (now 32188), +4 recoveries (now 146399) 🔸 US: +575 cases (now 124356), +7 deaths (now 2236) 🔹 Afghanistan: +10 cases (now 120) 🔹 Alabama, US: +60 cases (now 762) 🔹 Albania: +15 cases (now 212), +2 recoveries (now 33) 🔹 Andorra: +26 cases (now 334), +3 deaths (now 6) [... want %more?] | 17:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 15:06 UTC: /u/slakmehl: DW News su Twitter: "UPDATE: The finance minister of the German state of Hesse, Thomas Schäfer, apparently committed suicide in despair about the scale of the state response required to tackle the #coronavirus crisis, initial investigations suggest. https://t.co/VfYM1GQbhs" [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/x5iGMQ | 17:12 |
| Birosso | What? | 17:15 |
| LjL | :( | 17:18 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 15:16 UTC: /u/pixelcraftables: La conferenza stampa della protezione civile inizierà alle 18:00 — from r/WorldNews at 15:16: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/ny9yik | 17:18 |
| LjL | ugh the article makes it sound (correctly?) like he was "found" on train tracks as in, whatever train hit him didn't notice/stop | 17:19 |
| LjL | that's pretty ugh | 17:19 |
| Birosso | Well yes, that *is* what they're saying happened. | 17:20 |
| Birosso | German sources as well. | 17:20 |
| Birosso | Oh, this is DW. German source but in English. | 17:20 |
| LjL | high speed train drivers generally don't really look outside | 17:21 |
| LjL | everything is on the computer monitor | 17:21 |
| LjL | but still | 17:21 |
| Birosso | ""His main concern was whether he could manage to fulfill the huge expectations of the population, especially in terms of financial aid," Bouffier said on Sunday. "For him, there was clearly no way out. He was disappointed and so he had to leave us. " | 17:21 |
| Birosso | Oof | 17:21 |
| LjL | that's the bad thing about politicians | 17:22 |
| hellotrello[m] | somebody needs to login | 17:22 |
| hellotrello[m] | yes, like the door was locked from outside and the gun was placed in the waste-bin after he committed suicide | 17:22 |
| LjL | the ones who'd make good politicians either don't do it because they know in advance it would be bad, or... this | 17:22 |
| LjL | hellotrello[m], O.o ? | 17:22 |
| python476 | another day of weak lungs | 17:23 |
| LjL | python476, what | 17:23 |
| python476 | I'm 80% ok, but I feel slightly less easy breathing | 17:23 |
| python476 | i wonder if I'm not contaminated with a very mild case | 17:23 |
| hellotrello[m] | why bad things happen? | 17:23 |
| hellotrello[m] | is it all by chance? | 17:23 |
| hellotrello[m] | questions come up | 17:23 |
| LjL | python476, that's why you should have a pulse oximeter ( | 17:23 |
| LjL | hellotrello[m], all? no, some of it, yes | 17:23 |
| python476 | LjL: gonna check | 17:23 |
| python476 | i think my mother bought some | 17:24 |
| LjL | i have one but i don't entirely trust it. i was mulling over buying another one to check, but by the time i had mulled it over, amazon had none left | 17:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 15:22 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Washington governor calls for mobilizing manufacturing 'like we did in World War II' — from r/WorldNews at 15:22: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/vg1XLV | 17:24 |
| oguzkoroglu | !cases Turkey | 17:24 |
| python476 | I didn't hear news about medical supply increase | 17:24 |
| CovBot | In Turkey there have been a total of 7,402 cases as of 2020-03-29 15:18:00 UTC. Of these 7,224 (97.6%) are still sick or may have recovered without being recorded, 70 (0.9%) have definitely recovered and 108 (1.5%) have died. | 17:25 |
| hellotrello[m] | i would buy some food | 17:25 |
| python476 | are companies delivering respirators and oxymeters ? | 17:25 |
| hellotrello[m] | still not 70% of world pop infected by new viruses | 17:25 |
| LjL | python476, well i managed to buy an oxygen concentrator that was on Prime. previously amazon had been nigh out of them, which made me feel bad because i had the chance of buying one before, and just missed it by thinking about it too much... but then suddenly "only 1 left" and so i just clicked | 17:25 |
| LjL | python476, Amazon *did* say they are not restocking their warehouses of "non-essential goods" to concentrate on the essential ones | 17:26 |
| oguzkoroglu | !cases United Kingdom | 17:26 |
| CovBot | In United Kingdom there have been a total of 19,522 cases as of 2020-03-29 15:18:00 UTC. Of these 18,159 (93.0%) are still sick or may have recovered without being recorded, 135 (0.7%) have definitely recovered and 1,228 (6.3%) have died. | 17:26 |
| LjL | i assume that must mean medical, since it looks like they're getting rid of food, too | 17:26 |
| LjL | mainly medical at least | 17:26 |
| oguzkoroglu | !cases Netherlands | 17:26 |
| LjL | although these devices aren't even technically medical devices, they aren't really allowed them to sell them as such | 17:26 |
| CovBot | In Netherlands there have been a total of 10,866 cases as of 2020-03-29 15:18:00 UTC. Of these 10,092 (92.9%) are still sick or may have recovered without being recorded, 3 (0.0%) have definitely recovered and 771 (7.1%) have died. | 17:27 |
| oguzkoroglu | !cases World | 17:27 |
| CovBot | In World there have been a total of 685,431 cases as of 2020-03-29 15:18:00 UTC. Of these 506,842 (73.9%) are still sick or may have recovered without being recorded, 146,399 (21.4%) have definitely recovered and 32,190 (4.7%) have died. | 17:27 |
| prathux[m] | !cases India | 17:27 |
| hellotrello[m] | still >110,433 Deaths today | 17:27 |
| CovBot | In India there have been a total of 1,024 cases as of 2020-03-29 15:18:00 UTC. Of these 910 (88.9%) are still sick or may have recovered without being recorded, 87 (8.5%) have definitely recovered and 27 (2.6%) have died. | 17:27 |
| hellotrello[m] | A child dies from hunger every 10 seconds | 17:28 |
| hellotrello[m] | 1 in 9 people go to bed hungry | 17:29 |
| python476 | yeah but at least he has a choice ! \s | 17:29 |
| LjL | python476, there is https://www.amazon.fr/Pédiatrique-Saturomètre-Professionnel-Précision-Rechargeable/dp/B07PZBRFJD/ but it costs about twice what it should (or more, there used to be some for €15 or so) and it's really one of the most basic ones, no perfusion index and no graph, apart from the silly looks | 17:29 |
| hellotrello[m] | yet 2,186,804 died from hunger this year | 17:30 |
| LjL | but maybe you'd buy it for the silly looks | 17:30 |
| hellotrello[m] | 800 000 people die due to suicide every year, which is one person every 40 seconds. | 17:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from Gazzetta Ufficiale italiana at 15:24 UTC: MINISTERO DELLA SALUTE - ORDINANZA 28 marzo 2020: Ulteriori misure urgenti di contenimento e gestione dell'emergenzaepidemiologica da COVID-19. (20A01921) — from r/WorldNews at 15:24: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/RdcJ72 | 17:30 |
| python476 | hellotrello[m]: we shall all be food deprived in september | 17:30 |
| LjL | uh oh | 17:30 |
| LjL | %tr Ulteriori misure urgenti di contenimento e gestione dell'emergenza epidemiologica da COVID-19 | 17:31 |
| python476 | LjL the childish design really helps relaxing | 17:31 |
| Brainstorm | LjL, Italian to English: Additional urgent measures to contain and manage the epidemiological emergency from COVID-19 (MyMemory, Google) — #Ulterior urgent measures of containment and management of the emergency *epidemiologica of *COVID-19 (Apertium) | 17:31 |
| oguzkoroglu | hellotrello[m]: +1 | 17:31 |
| hellotrello[m] | ALLMOST ALL people ever born WILL die for sure in the end!! that is death rate of 99.99999999999...%! | 17:32 |
| LjL | oh it's about entry in Italy and (cruise?) ship quarantines | 17:32 |
| LjL | hellotrello[m], you sound optimistic | 17:32 |
| hellotrello[m] | <python476 "hellotrello: we shall all be foo"> why? | 17:32 |
| oguzkoroglu | Corona is nothing but Fear of Corona is everything | 17:32 |
| LjL | "corona is nothing" ← bollocks | 17:33 |
| python476 | hellotrello[m]: i'm just over anticipating food supply collapse | 17:33 |
| LjL | do the maths | 17:33 |
| LjL | fear is healthy | 17:33 |
| hellotrello[m] | yes goto #panic-room:matrix.org | 17:34 |
| LjL | panic is not fear | 17:34 |
| hellotrello[m] | first comes fear | 17:34 |
| hellotrello[m] | then comes panic | 17:34 |
| A2666 | No first comes ignorance then panic | 17:35 |
| A2666 | that's at least how Americans work | 17:36 |
| hellotrello[m] | <A2666 "No first comes ignorance then pa"> yes thats the shortcut | 17:36 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +826 cases (now 685843), +5 deaths (now 32193) 🔹 Afghanistan: +10 cases (now 120) 🔹 Alabama, US: +60 cases (now 762) 🔹 Albania: +15 cases (now 212), +2 recoveries (now 33) 🔹 Andorra: +26 cases (now 334), +3 deaths (now 6) 🔹 Austria: +377 cases (now 8648), +18 deaths (now 86), +254 recoveries (now 479) 🔹 Azerbaijan: +27 cases (now 209) [... want %more?] | 17:36 |
| AimHere | I do get the feeling that some of these coronavirus dissidents are finding the whole thing an affront to their masculinity | 17:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 15:32 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Washington governor calls for mobilizing manufacturing 'like we did in World War II' — from r/WorldNews at 15:32: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/vg1XLV | 17:36 |
| AimHere | "I'm not scared of no virus" | 17:37 |
| hellotrello[m] | normal:fear->panic | 17:37 |
| AimHere | "Don't be a wet blanket. So what if people die, let's go party" | 17:37 |
| hellotrello[m] | special case:ignorance->panic | 17:37 |
| AimHere | It's somehow odd that the other diseases that people say are worse than the coronavirus aren't the ones overloading hospital wards and causing people to die in corridors | 17:38 |
| hellotrello[m] | usually government controls virus but now virus not care about what government says | 17:38 |
| AimHere | You'd think if malaria or flu was so bad, this would happen every year | 17:38 |
| hellotrello[m] | so government need army to control virus | 17:39 |
| AimHere | hellotrello[m], that's pretty much it. Most viruses are contained so that they don't stretch the world's resources to breaking point. This one's different | 17:39 |
| AimHere | "this, but unironically" | 17:40 |
| hellotrello[m] | if virus was encrypted body would not care | 17:40 |
| hellotrello[m] | so waiting for the real flu | 17:41 |
| hellotrello[m] | many movies already made for that, computer games also | 17:41 |
| hellotrello[m] | so people know whats happening | 17:41 |
| hellotrello[m] | you know like the last of us | 17:42 |
| hellotrello[m] | but i dont like such games | 17:42 |
| hellotrello[m] | this is NOT a game | 17:43 |
| hellotrello[m] | so true | 17:44 |
| hellotrello[m] | 😷 | 17:48 |
| hellotrello[m] | dont tell anyone | 17:48 |
| hellotrello[m] | 😷 | 17:49 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 15:39 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: NHS workers should not be asked to work without protective equipment, says Jenrick — from r/WorldNews at 15:39: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/ucQWhr | 17:49 |
| hellotrello[m] | freedom of speech | 17:49 |
| Blankspace | I have problem breathing | 17:49 |
| AimHere | Blankspace, have you sought medical attention? | 17:49 |
| Blankspace | No | 17:50 |
| AimHere | I'd at least talk to a doctor | 17:50 |
| hellotrello[m] | do youBlankspace: have respiratory problems like allergic rreactions? | 17:51 |
| LjL | hellotrello[m], why do you keep sending that image? | 17:51 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +565 cases (now 686408), +76 deaths (now 32269) 🔸 US: +743 cases (now 125099), +2 deaths (now 2238) 🔹 Afghanistan: +10 cases (now 120) 🔹 Alabama, US: +60 cases (now 762) 🔹 Albania: +15 cases (now 212), +2 recoveries (now 33) 🔹 Andorra: +26 cases (now 334), +3 deaths (now 6) [... want %more?] | 17:51 |
| LjL | Blankspace, we cannot diagnose or recommend medical decisions here | 17:51 |
| Blankspace | No | 17:51 |
| hellotrello[m] | LjL: which image? | 17:51 |
| Blankspace | Problems before. | 17:52 |
| LjL | Blankspace, you mean you already had trouble breathing before? | 17:52 |
| LjL | hellotrello[m], you have uploaded a captcha picture twice | 17:52 |
| Blankspace | I mean no trouble earlier | 17:53 |
| hellotrello[m] | oh i can delete it if you want | 17:53 |
| LjL | hellotrello[m], i just don't understand why you sent it | 17:53 |
| hellotrello[m] | i have delete one instance of the captcha image | 17:53 |
| hellotrello[m] | so that saves memory | 17:53 |
| LjL | Blankspace, shortness of breath can be serious. if this alarms you, please call a doctor. | 17:53 |
| hellotrello[m] | <LjL "hellotrello, i just don't unders"> it reminds us of not being robots | 17:54 |
| hellotrello[m] | its like somebody ask you why you did something that was not expected todo | 17:55 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 15:50 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Washington governor calls for mobilizing manufacturing 'like we did in World War II' — from r/WorldNews at 15:50: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/vg1XLV | 17:55 |
| hellotrello[m] | robots cannot do that | 17:55 |
| hellotrello[m] | people trying to simulate robots with artificial intelligence | 17:56 |
| python476 | no fever but stomach ache is bad apparently | 17:56 |
| hellotrello[m] | python476: drin a tea | 17:57 |
| hellotrello[m] | * python476: drink a tea | 17:57 |
| hellotrello[m] | 🍵 | 17:57 |
| LjL | python476, are you a worrier? health-wise especially? | 17:57 |
| hellotrello[m] | LjL: are you a medical nurse? | 17:58 |
| LjL | hellotrello[m], no, why? | 17:58 |
| python476 | LjL: not a worrier | 17:59 |
| hellotrello[m] | people who ask questions trying to lead in conversations did you know that? | 17:59 |
| LjL | honestly i don't follow most of what you're saying | 17:59 |
| python476 | me ? | 17:59 |
| LjL | python476, no | 17:59 |
| python476 | or hello | 17:59 |
| python476 | ok | 17:59 |
| hellotrello[m] | ok, that is not a problem for most of us here i guess | 17:59 |
| LjL | python476, but as he said i'm not a medical nurse (or whatever). i just felt i had to ask that question for a minimum of perspective | 18:00 |
| python476 | LjL: if there's a worry scale worry ... 0 ... careless; i'm surely a bit below zero but not much | 18:00 |
| LjL | python476, have you found that pulse oximeter, or determined whether or not it is there somewhere? | 18:00 |
| hellotrello[m] | some people react with panic | 18:00 |
| python476 | not yet | 18:00 |
| python476 | and my comment was mostly about the fact that a few MDs in NY are reporting that no fever + stomach is linked with infection | 18:01 |
| hellotrello[m] | the body reacts to that if you do not see that | 18:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 15:55 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: up to six months to see if measures have 'squashed' virus, says deputy chief medical officer — from r/WorldNews at 15:55: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/ucQWhr | 18:01 |
| python476 | whereas most older summaries did emphasize on fever / cough / dyspnea, not stomach ache | 18:01 |
| LjL | python476, well you have shortness of breath and another symptom, that sounds like enough to worry to me... at the same time if you call a doctor that's a very good way to get exposed to COVID if you don't actually have it | 18:01 |
| LjL | so it's a bit of a conundrum i think :\ | 18:02 |
| hellotrello[m] | getting dark outside | 18:02 |
| LjL | also, shortness of breath can be a symptom of anxiety or an impending panic attack, hence my question about worrying | 18:02 |
| python476 | the main issue is that my mother is an extreme worrier so asking her oxymeter is a subtle question | 18:02 |
| LjL | oh | 18:02 |
| hellotrello[m] | if panic comes body reacts if you do not see that | 18:03 |
| LjL | python476, just tell her something like "hey remember that oxymeter we bought? lemme try it out, i wonder if it may be useful with the covid thing" | 18:03 |
| python476 | LjL: yeah I considered anxiety, but I didn't feel any, I slept with my cat, woke ok, but who knows maybe its latent anxiety | 18:03 |
| hellotrello[m] | i have no oxymeter but i feel ok | 18:03 |
| Blankspace | It feels like air is not reaching the bronchioles | 18:04 |
| python476 | LjL: yeah, tricking will do | 18:04 |
| python476 | Blankspace: exactly | 18:04 |
| python476 | you can inhale air, but it feels your blood is not getting it | 18:04 |
| hellotrello[m] | i guess oxymeter becomes least abundant | 18:04 |
| Blankspace | Instead fluid is filled in it | 18:04 |
| LjL | i have no idea how that feels to be honest. i *have* had shortness of breath, many times, but it was almost certainly anxiety in my case | 18:04 |
| metreo | !corona | 18:04 |
| CoronaBot | Total cases: 07686,199 (+23,117), deaths: 0432,277 (+1,420), recovered: 09146,402. Active cases: 04507,520, 02482,094 are in a mild condition, 0425,426 are in a serious condition. Mortality: 044.70%, case fatality rate: 0418.06%. Case rate: 0466,761/day, death rate: 043,518/day. Last update: 059m ago. | 18:04 |
| python476 | Blankspace: oh ! | 18:05 |
| LjL | also i had asthma as a child but i suspect that feels different | 18:05 |
| hellotrello[m] | do you know how the virus spreads? | 18:05 |
| LjL | hellotrello[m], we know a few ways in which it can spread, but i don't think it's clear how prevalent each one is | 18:05 |
| hellotrello[m] | do you know how the virus works? | 18:05 |
| python476 | you reminded me I used to dance my chest around to improve the situation | 18:05 |
| python476 | hellotrello[m]: you mean RNA replication ? | 18:05 |
| LjL | droplets, longer-lived aerosol, surfaces, possibly bodily fluids | 18:05 |
| hellotrello[m] | do you know what the virus does when it comes into your body? | 18:06 |
| LjL | python476, you used to? so you've had this sort of thing before? | 18:06 |
| Blankspace | It attaches to your throat | 18:06 |
| python476 | yes 3-4 days ago | 18:06 |
| python476 | one afternoon, then went away | 18:06 |
| hellotrello[m] | have you read the scientific articles about how the virus behaves? | 18:06 |
| LjL | hellotrello[m], the virus enters your cells by taking advantage of ACE2 receptors, and starts reproducing | 18:06 |
| LjL | hellotrello[m], i have. have you? there are a bunch of them in the room topic | 18:06 |
| python476 | Blankspace: moving shoulders up and down kinda massage lungs and does make warm blood feeling happen | 18:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 16:03 UTC: /u/pixelcraftables: è stato cambiato per qualche motivo il link — from r/WorldNews at 16:03: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/aeaVG7 | 18:07 |
| LjL | python476, if you do grab that pulse oximeter keep in mind that when things are not too bad yet, you tend to react by breathing faster, so you may still get a high reading | 18:07 |
| LjL | i think you should grab it but it's not a definite diagnostic or anything | 18:08 |
| python476 | what's the threshold usually ? | 18:08 |
| python476 | 90 ? 80 ? | 18:08 |
| python476 | the lower limit | 18:09 |
| LjL | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htspJCL48BU | 18:09 |
| LjL | italy press conference | 18:09 |
| LjL | as usual i forget | 18:09 |
| LjL | forgot* | 18:09 |
| python476 | above zero of course _~ | 18:09 |
| LjL | python476, less than 90 is definitely showing problems | 18:09 |
| ecks | >95% | 18:09 |
| python476 | ecks so <95 is enough to call your MD | 18:09 |
| LjL | python476, you won't *die* by just having less than 90, but it won't be normal. and yeah, less than 95% or so is kind of suspicious, but keep in mind these pulse oximeters are not always great, so it's not a huge issue if you get 94 for a minute | 18:10 |
| python476 | ok, noise | 18:10 |
| LjL | python476, if it stays consistently below 95% then i'd say you probably want to act on it | 18:10 |
| python476 | more measures, more calm | 18:10 |
| ecks | yeah | 18:10 |
| python476 | OMG 94.999 | 18:10 |
| LjL | italy gave today's numbers but i missed them | 18:11 |
| ecks | think the rule of thumb is to give oxygen when <92% here | 18:11 |
| python476 | I'm not six sigma .~~~~. | 18:11 |
| hellotrello[m] | Yes and the ACE2 recepors | 18:11 |
| LjL | he's with a pneumologist today | 18:11 |
| LjL | pulmonologist, whatever | 18:11 |
| LjL | total currently positive: 73880 | 18:12 |
| ecks | 5217 new cases | 18:12 |
| LjL | +3851 | 18:12 |
| ecks | can we say Italy has plateaud? | 18:12 |
| LjL | of which 3906 are in ICU | 18:12 |
| LjL | 26386 are in hospital | 18:12 |
| LjL | 42588 are at home | 18:12 |
| LjL | ecks, give it a couple more days | 18:12 |
| LjL | +756 dead | 18:12 |
| oguzkoroglu | !cases Turkey | 18:12 |
| CovBot | In Turkey there have been a total of 7,402 cases as of 2020-03-29 15:47:00 UTC. Of these 7,224 (97.6%) are still sick or may have recovered without being recorded, 70 (0.9%) have definitely recovered and 108 (1.5%) have died. | 18:12 |
| LjL | +646 recoveries | 18:12 |
| LjL | %cases italy | 18:13 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: In all areas, Italy, there are 92472 cases, 10023 deaths (10.8% of cases), 12384 recoveries as of March 29, 16:02Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Italy for time series data. | 18:13 |
| hellotrello[m] | When the influenza virus gets into the body, it moves into the respiratory tract. | 18:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 16:12 UTC: /u/pixelcraftables: Lombardia Emilia Romagna ‘Veneto jemonte, Toscana Marche Ligu lL Campania Trento Puglia Friuli V.G. ‘Abruzzo Bolzano Umbria Sardegna Calabria Valle d'Aosta TOTALE con sintomi 11613 3769 1586, 2985, FErey 1000 107, 1062 476 356 559 236 451 329 234 166 105) 124 90 32 25 27.386 PCM-DPC dati fornit [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/kQtQFN | 18:13 |
| hellotrello[m] | do you think virus is intelligent design? | 18:14 |
| LjL | no | 18:14 |
| python476 | please | 18:14 |
| hellotrello[m] | how can it spread? | 18:14 |
| hellotrello[m] | has it a will? | 18:14 |
| python476 | please | 18:14 |
| ecks | no | 18:14 |
| hellotrello[m] | can it think? | 18:14 |
| LjL | oh lol, Brainstorm actually OCR'd the above | 18:14 |
| LjL | Brainstorm, i love you | 18:14 |
| LjL | hellotrello[m], please stop saying nonsense | 18:14 |
| hellotrello[m] | why would it attack someone? | 18:14 |
| LjL | it doesn't, it's just a bunch of molecules that happen to perpetuate themselves because they are in just the right arrangement to do so | 18:15 |
| hellotrello[m] | <LjL "hellotrello, please stop saying "> explain it to me? | 18:15 |
| LjL | i just have, but you are asking a battery of questions before even waiting for answers | 18:15 |
| LjL | with a bit of a tone like you think you already know the answers | 18:15 |
| hellotrello[m] | LjL: ok i wait | 18:15 |
| hellotrello[m] | ⌛️ | 18:16 |
| LjL | 2.3m and 1.7m surgical and ffp2 delivered yesterday | 18:16 |
| hellotrello[m] | LjL: yes | 18:16 |
| Blankspace | I think staying home would be good idea? | 18:17 |
| Blankspace | People recover on their own? | 18:17 |
| LjL | some people do, others don't | 18:17 |
| hellotrello[m] | LjL: yes, by chance. do you believe we are like that virus? | 18:18 |
| LjL | we are very different from the virus, but ultimately we have some of the most core machinery which is the same, i.e. DNA or RNA | 18:18 |
| LjL | we are more similar to the virus than we are to a piece of cardboard | 18:18 |
| ecks | idk, some people have the personality of a piece of cardboard | 18:19 |
| hellotrello[m] | just a bunch of molecules happen to be there at one place by chance in some aspect of random time/space? | 18:19 |
| davidmpye[m] | hellotrello: Why would it think more than any other infection? | 18:19 |
| LjL | no, they have evolved from simpler bunches of molecules that were there previously, likely for many, many millennia | 18:19 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 16:14 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: States grapple with medical shortages, UK lockdown measures could last six months — from r/WorldNews at 16:14: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/vg1XLV | 18:20 |
| davidmpye[m] | it was a previous virus that changed its' surface molecules, in a way that conveniently makes it very infectious to humans rather than bats | 18:20 |
| LjL | just checking: is anyone right now thinking i'm not doing my op job? | 18:20 |
| hellotrello[m] | davidmpye: if this virus is the same as all the others it could make the same intelligent decisions? | 18:20 |
| ubLIX | hellotrello[m]: what's your native language? | 18:21 |
| LjL | mefistofeles, but you're an op, you can do it too :P | 18:21 |
| mefistofeles | LjL: what? I was just stretching | 18:21 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +11577 cases (now 697985), +855 deaths (now 33124), +2047 recoveries (now 148446) 🔸 US: +6267 cases (now 131366), +90 deaths (now 2328), +1140 recoveries (now 4378) 🔸 New York, US: +6058 cases (now 59513), +82 deaths (now 965) 🔸 Piemonte, Italy: +535 cases (now 8206), +67 deaths (now 684), +51 recoveries (now 254) [... want %more?] | 18:21 |
| hellotrello[m] | if the virus can suddenly change its sphere like a jellyfish that is very astonishing i think | 18:21 |
| LjL | ;) | 18:21 |
| LjL | nice US update right there | 18:21 |
| AimHere | <LjL> we are more similar to the virus than we are to a piece of cardboard <- I dunno. Wouldn't trees be closer to us, evolutionary speaking, than to a virus? | 18:21 |
| LjL | AimHere, uhm... well, yeah | 18:22 |
| mefistofeles | wtf 60k cases in NY alone | 18:22 |
| AimHere | I'd use something mineral as your point of comparison! | 18:22 |
| davidmpye[m] | hellotrello: dont be silly. | 18:22 |
| davidmpye[m] | it doesnt have a brain | 18:22 |
| davidmpye[m] | it is like every other infection that has plagued species since viruses/bacteria evolved | 18:22 |
| mefistofeles | is trump a virus then? | 18:22 |
| hellotrello[m] | davidmpye: i think evolution theory is silly | 18:22 |
| LjL | this guest doctor is saying that the decrease in cases, deceased, and ICU patients is giving us "solid" data to hope on | 18:22 |
| davidmpye[m] | hellotrello: oh, you're one of those idiots. | 18:22 |
| rajrajraj | hi | 18:23 |
| mefistofeles | davidmpye[m]: hey, calm | 18:23 |
| rajrajraj | are. you all covid patients? | 18:23 |
| hellotrello[m] | davidmpye: yes | 18:23 |
| mefistofeles | LjL: Italy' | 18:23 |
| mefistofeles | ? | 18:23 |
| davidmpye[m] | If you can't get as far as evolution, I'm not sure you've got anything to add here tbh. | 18:23 |
| LjL | rajrajraj, you know we aren't | 18:24 |
| LjL | mefistofeles, yeah | 18:24 |
| ubLIX | i agree. evolution as a theory is quite beautiful | 18:24 |
| mefistofeles | LjL: yes, Italy is consistently slowing down, not sure if checked this nice visualization, but one sec | 18:24 |
| LjL | davidmpye[m], you are not necessarily wrong but calling people names just makes doing... the above... trickier | 18:24 |
| mefistofeles | https://aatishb.com/covidtrends/ | 18:25 |
| davidmpye[m] | LjL: watch and see :-) | 18:25 |
| davidmpye[m] | LjL: Flat earth debate incoming also. | 18:25 |
| LjL | mefistofeles, uhm fancy, that's amount of current cases? | 18:25 |
| LjL | davidmpye[m], oh, they're muted on IRC, but that's not enough for the Matrix bridge. sigh. | 18:25 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 16:23 UTC: /u/pixelcraftables: New York — from r/WorldNews at 16:23: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/P9Qbcz | 18:26 |
| rajrajraj | LjL: i was jokinh | 18:26 |
| mefistofeles | LjL: new cases (past week) against total cases | 18:26 |
| mefistofeles | he/she is coming back, for sure | 18:30 |
| mefistofeles | :P | 18:30 |
| LjL | mefistofeles, i need to digest this graph, i don't understand it intuitively. but it seems interesting that japan is moving more tentatively, but ultimately it's being close to the countries going in a straight line | 18:30 |
| mefistofeles | LjL: yes, they weren't testing, apaprently | 18:30 |
| LjL | mefistofeles, they didn't just leave though, i banned them on Matrix. the gateway shows that as a PART | 18:31 |
| mefistofeles | ok | 18:31 |
| python476 | damn it's almost the same as few days before | 18:31 |
| LjL | China is slowly going back up...? | 18:32 |
| mefistofeles | LjL: not slowly :/ | 18:32 |
| LjL | ouch | 18:32 |
| python476 | normal wake, weird lung struggle for an hour, then slowly back to normal | 18:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 16:28 UTC: /u/pixelcraftables: Il Viminale su Twitter: "Oltre 3 milioni di persone controllate dall'11 marzo. Costante l'attività dalle Forze di polizia contro la diffusione #COVID19. I dati delle verifiche del #28Marzo. #iorestoacasa #aiutaciadifenderti #29Marzo #COVID2019italia 📰➡️https://t.co/KWK6PePPCN… https://t.co/qB5crAFYKz" → https://is.gd/OUcoDZ | 18:32 |
| python476 | mefistofeles: really ? | 18:32 |
| python476 | did they unlock too early ? | 18:32 |
| mefistofeles | LjL: though my guess is that this is a new region that wasn't getting infected before | 18:32 |
| LjL | mefistofeles, we should be able to figure that out, we have per-region data | 18:33 |
| ubLIX | python476: "weird lung struggle for an hour" - sounds like every long term smoker | 18:33 |
| mefistofeles | LjL: to the batcave!! | 18:33 |
| LjL | python476, please get that pulse oxymeter | 18:33 |
| mefistofeles | pun intended | 18:33 |
| mefistofeles | :P | 18:33 |
| LjL | python476, ubLIX brings up a good point... do you smoke? | 18:33 |
| LjL | mefistofeles, batcave is more like Nipah :P | 18:34 |
| python476 | ubLIX: I knew I should have smocked ! now I get all the downsides without the fun \s | 18:34 |
| mefistofeles | lol | 18:34 |
| python476 | LjL no I'm a priest, no booze, no weed, no cigs | 18:34 |
| python476 | I have a history of asthma but it's been dormant since forev | 18:35 |
| LjL | being straight-edge is bad for your lungs | 18:35 |
| davidmpye[m] | No reason why China wouldn't, it's not like enough people are infected to have generated immunity | 18:35 |
| python476 | straight edge ? | 18:35 |
| python476 | mefistofeles: I see shangai and beijing are growing | 18:35 |
| LjL | %wik straight edge | 18:35 |
| Brainstorm | LjL, from English Wikipedia: Straight edge (sometimes abbreviated sXe or signified by XXX or X) is a subculture of hardcore punk whose adherents refrain from using alcohol, tobacco and other recreational drugs, in reaction to the excesses of punk subculture. For some, this extends to refraining from engaging in promiscuous sex, to [... want %more?] → https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight_edge | 18:35 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +4739 cases (now 702724), +62 deaths (now 33186), +768 recoveries (now 149214) 🔸 Turkey: +1815 cases (now 9217), +23 deaths (now 131), +35 recoveries (now 105) 🔸 Germany: +2412 cases (now 60659), +27 deaths (now 482), +730 recoveries (now 9211) 🔹 Afghanistan: +10 cases (now 120) 🔹 Alabama, US: +60 cases (now 762) [... want %more?] | 18:36 |
| LjL | %cases turkey | 18:36 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: In all areas, Turkey, there are 9217 cases, 131 deaths (1.4% of cases), 105 recoveries as of March 29, 16:34Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Turkey for time series data. | 18:36 |
| ubLIX | python476: but i suppose the point there is you do have to do that struggle; ie clear your lungs intentionally with coughing, movement, generally getting your circulation going, while you can; while you're still well enough to move, if you don't, your lungs won't clear themselves | 18:37 |
| LjL | mefistofeles, that graph... i'm not sure i can say i'm done digesting it, but it kinda shows countries in a very comparable way *without* resorting to some arbitrary number like "graph starts at 100 cases" like many of the other trajectory comparison charts...? | 18:37 |
| python476 | shit, the finger stuff my mom had were diabete testing kits ~_~ | 18:37 |
| python476 | what a fail | 18:38 |
| LjL | python476, oh | 18:38 |
| LjL | definitely not the same thing | 18:38 |
| LjL | pulse oxymeter is less painful | 18:38 |
| python476 | let's measure sugar and infer oxygenation <o/ #PhD | 18:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 16:36 UTC: /u/pixelcraftables: Il ministro delle finanze Tedesco Thomas Schafer è stato trovato morto da apparente suicidio. — from r/WorldNews at 16:36: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/sn8KPv | 18:38 |
| mefistofeles | LjL: yes, itñ spretty cool, tbh | 18:38 |
| mefistofeles | for knowledgeable enough people | 18:38 |
| LjL | python476, you don't happen to have a samsung s6 or s7? | 18:39 |
| python476 | not a functionning one | 18:39 |
| python476 | they do cam trick to estimate oxygen ? | 18:39 |
| LjL | python476, they have reflective pulse oxymeters | 18:39 |
| LjL | python476, it's not even the camera, they have dedicated hardware next to the camera | 18:39 |
| python476 | wow | 18:39 |
| LjL | python476, although personally i *think* it could be done with just the camera, but i think up many things i'm not actually able to do | 18:40 |
| python476 | I have a vivosmart with a HR monitor | 18:40 |
| python476 | if only I could hack the LEDs and sensor | 18:40 |
| LjL | python476, you will find some attempts at it on github, but honestly i don't think that would be reasonable to actually measure your saturation when you're actually worried about having something ;( | 18:40 |
| python476 | totally | 18:40 |
| LjL | python476, the difference between a simple heartrate monitor and a pulse oxymeter is mainly that you need TWO frequencies (both LEDs and detectors) instead of just one | 18:41 |
| LjL | python476, usually one is in the red, and the other is in the infrared, so you can't do the infrared part with just a camera, but i'm not sure it couldn't be done with RGB if one tried hard enough | 18:41 |
| Arsanerit | mefistofeles: that is an interesting visualisation, thanks. | 18:41 |
| LjL | python476, i have only a notional understanding of how it works, but basically you need to solve a system of two equations, because the shade of your blood in your finger depends on oxygen saturation, but it also keeps changing because your heart beats (and there's unknown layers on skin on it also). your heartbeat is trivial to detect, and then you have a baseline and the saturation can be estimated by the change in shade you expect, i.e. the difference | 18:44 |
| LjL | between the two sensors | 18:44 |
| LjL | at least my assumption is that your heart beats | 18:45 |
| python476 | LjL thanks for the technical details but you know I'll get an oxymeter from amazon faster than I can absorb and hack a device on my own :) | 18:46 |
| LjL | python476, yes, but i also somehow suspect you like to know technical details of things | 18:46 |
| python476 | a lesson in competence in times of stress | 18:46 |
| python476 | LjL in other times I'd discuss the topic to death | 18:47 |
| LjL | python476, see if you can get one on ebay with express shipping from france maybe | 18:47 |
| LjL | if you look at the non-Prime ones on Amazon, i suspect the vast majority are coming from China | 18:47 |
| python476 | actually amazon has some 25$ models | 18:47 |
| LjL | there may be some that are not, but it really is easier to ... oh, prime | 18:47 |
| LjL | ? | 18:47 |
| python476 | gonna grab one just in case | 18:47 |
| LjL | wait | 18:47 |
| LjL | check the seller | 18:48 |
| python476 | https://www.aao.org/headline/alert-important-coronavirus-context <= eye infections may be a symptom | 18:48 |
| LjL | if they are not prime | 18:48 |
| LjL | yes, they may | 18:48 |
| LjL | we really should put together a symptoms section | 18:48 |
| python476 | I feel super weird about all this | 18:48 |
| LjL | python476, do you have a conjunctivitis? | 18:48 |
| python476 | no | 18:48 |
| python476 | basically if everybody had helmets and gloves and lots of soap ... there would be no contagion | 18:49 |
| LjL | python476, if you get one from a seller who's in china, chances are it'll take ages to arrive | 18:49 |
| LjL | and may be stopped at customs and they may want money if you are not very lucky | 18:49 |
| python476 | LjL: yeah I may try to contact seller to ensure he's in proximity | 18:49 |
| python476 | yeah lets pay 300e import fees for life | 18:49 |
| LjL | python476, the seller's address is stated on their amazon profile page, just click on the seller in the product page | 18:50 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 16:45 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: Spain records new highest daily death toll, as Syria reports first Covid-19 death — from r/WorldNews at 16:45: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/fx946D | 18:50 |
| LjL | python476, https://www.amazon.fr/Hernando-Oxym%C3%A8tre-surveillance-fr%C3%A9quence-cardiaque/dp/B07D341ZD9/ref=sr_1_4?__mk_fr_FR=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&keywords=oxymetre&qid=1585500641&refinements=p_76%3A437878031&rnid=437877031&rps=1&sr=8-4 | 18:50 |
| LjL | prime | 18:50 |
| LjL | only one left | 18:50 |
| LjL | price is okay | 18:50 |
| LjL | ah damn | 18:51 |
| LjL | there *was* one left when i clicked like... 20 seconds ago | 18:51 |
| LjL | uh weird | 18:51 |
| LjL | it's still listed as one left with prime | 18:51 |
| LjL | but when i click, it is not | 18:51 |
| bin_bash | got sniped | 18:52 |
| python476 | btw were these the kind of graphs you mentioned above https://imgur.com/a/tGsXVeo <= | 18:52 |
| LjL | python476, yes | 18:52 |
| LjL | python476, and that one also shows a perfusion index | 18:52 |
| python476 | lol amazon stock management is having fever | 18:52 |
| LjL | python476, both are mainly to have an idea whether what it is measuring makes sense | 18:52 |
| python476 | damn, top result on amazon.fr is a guy in china | 18:53 |
| python476 | the shop is called YTS UK Store | 18:53 |
| python476 | come on | 18:53 |
| python476 | lol | 18:53 |
| LjL | python476, perfusion index is an indication of how strong (not how fast) your pulse is, basically. it's just a percentage that isn't numerically representative of much, but if it's low, chances are the oxymeter will have more trouble measuring your sats correctly | 18:53 |
| LjL | python476, mine doesn't have a perfusion index, but i guess i find the graph even more telling | 18:54 |
| LjL | if you move even just a little, the graph takes a while to adjust back | 18:54 |
| LjL | so during that time i won't trust the readings | 18:54 |
| bin_bash | there's a shitload of them on ebay and also pharmacies like cvs and walmart sell them | 18:55 |
| LjL | python476, i also ended up on YJT UK Store by clicking on the one that looks like the one i have (except it doesn't have a USB port, mine does) | 18:55 |
| python476 | bin_bash: yeah I forgot about local stores because they've been emptied but maybe .. | 18:55 |
| bin_bash | s/walmart/walgreens | 18:55 |
| Brainstorm | bin_bash meant to say: there's a shitload of them on ebay and also pharmacies like cvs and walgreens sell them | 18:55 |
| bin_bash | python476: yeah worth a call at least | 18:56 |
| LjL | bin_bash, i was going to check ebay next, but he'd need something that ships quickly | 18:56 |
| python476 | prices on ebay and other sites are all above 40e | 18:56 |
| python476 | funny right | 18:56 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 16:49 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: States grapple with medical shortages, UK lockdown measures could last six months — from r/WorldNews at 16:49: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/vg1XLV | 18:56 |
| LjL | python476, well the ones on amazon end up being 30ish plus shipping so | 18:57 |
| python476 | aight time to get serious https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKAJsZJvMI0 | 18:59 |
| python476 | also my lungs are better now.. | 18:59 |
| python476 | so strange | 18:59 |
| LjL | there's only three listings from France on eBay that i can see | 19:00 |
| LjL | https://www.ebay.fr/itm/Saturometre-oxymetre-avec-coque-de-protection-MECA-120XS-FAHRENHEIT-MEDICAL-/333558981866 would be the quickest to ship on paper, well on screen, but ebay has only rough estimates, it may arrive by april 2 or it may not | 19:01 |
| LjL | and also it's expensive | 19:01 |
| LjL | https://www.ebay.fr/itm/Oxymetre-de-Pouls-Electronique-Saturometre-Pulsometre-Moniteur-Doigt-SpO2-Mesure-/324116020346 is cheapest, doesn't look great, free shipping of unknown description | 19:02 |
| LjL | i used https://geo-ship.com/#/search-result?search%5BcommonOptions%5D%5Bkeywords%5D=oxymetre&search%5BcommonOptions%5D%5BkeywordsTranslated%5D=oxymetre&search%5BcommonOptions%5D%5BpriceRange%5D%5Bmin%5D=-1&search%5BcommonOptions%5D%5BpriceRange%5D%5Bmax%5D=60&search%5BcommonOptions%5D%5BsellerName%5D=&search%5BcommonOptions%5D%5Bcategory%5D=See-All-Categories&search%5BcommonOptions%5D%5BpriceOrgCurrencyRange%5D%5Bmin%5D=-1&search%5BcommonOptions%5D%5BpriceO | 19:02 |
| LjL | rgCurrencyRange%5D%5Bmax%5D=-1&search%5BadvancedOptions%5D%5BselectedLocales%5D%5B%5D=EBAY-GB&search%5BadvancedOptions%5D%5BselectedLocales%5D%5B%5D=EBAY-AT&search%5BadvancedOptions%5D%5BselectedLocales%5D%5B%5D=EBAY-CH&search%5BadvancedOptions%5D%5BselectedLocales%5D%5B%5D=EBAY-DE&search%5BadvancedOptions%5D%5BselectedLocales%5D%5B%5D=EBAY-ES&search%5BadvancedOptions%5D%5BselectedLocales%5D%5B%5D=EBAY-FR&search%5BadvancedOptions%5D%5BselectedLocales%5D%5B% | 19:02 |
| LjL | 5D=EBAY-FRBE&search%5BadvancedOptions%5D%5BselectedLocales%5D%5B%5D=EBAY-IE&search%5BadvancedOptions%5D%5BselectedLocales%5D%5B%5D=EBAY-IT&search%5BadvancedOptions%5D%5BselectedLocales%5D%5B%5D=EBAY-NL&search%5BadvancedOptions%5D%5BselectedLocales%5D%5B%5D=EBAY-NLBE&search%5BadvancedOptions%5D%5BselectedLocales%5D%5B%5D=EBAY-PL&search%5BadvancedOptions%5D%5BsearchDesc%5D=false&search%5BadvancedOptions%5D%5BexcludeMultiVariation%5D=false&search%5BadvancedOpt | 19:02 |
| LjL | ions%5D%5BonlyWithShipping%5D=false&search%5BadvancedOptions%5D%5BsetPricerangeTotal%5D=true&search%5BadvancedOptions%5D%5BbidsRange%5D%5Bmin%5D=-1&search%5BadvancedOptions%5D%5BbidsRange%5D%5Bmax%5D=-1&search%5BadvancedOptions%5D%5BfeedbackRange%5D%5Bmin%5D=15&search%5BadvancedOptions%5D%5BfeedbackRange%5D%5Bmax%5D=-1&search%5BadvancedOptions%5D%5BpositiveFeedbackRange%5D%5Bmin%5D=98&search%5BadvancedOptions%5D%5BpositiveFeedbackRange%5D%5Bmax%5D=-1&search | 19:02 |
| LjL | %5BadvancedOptions%5D%5BbuyingFormat%5D=All&search%5BadvancedOptions%5D%5BitemCondition%5D=All&search%5BadvancedOptions%5D%5BavailableTo%5D=WORLDWIDE&search%5BadvancedOptions%5D%5BlocatedIn%5D=FR&search%5BadvancedOptions%5D%5BdisplayCurrency%5D=EUR&search%5BadvancedOptions%5D%5BresultsPerPage%5D=50&search%5BadvancedOptions%5D%5BebaySortOrder%5D=PricePlusShippingLowest&search%5BadvancedOptions%5D%5BsearchPaypalOnly%5D=true&search%5BadvancedOptions%5D%5BbestO | 19:02 |
| LjL | fferOnly%5D=false&search%5BadvancedOptions%5D%5BlocalPickupOnly%5D=false&search%5BadvancedOptions%5D%5BsearchCompleted%5D=false&search%5BadvancedOptions%5D%5BsearchSoldOnly%5D=false&search%5BadvancedOptions%5D%5BshowShippingType%5D=false&search%5BadvancedOptions%5D%5BshippingPriceRatio%5D=0&search%5BadvancedOptions%5D%5BsellerType%5D=All to get them listed | 19:02 |
| LjL | i appear to have done it again | 19:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 16:58 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Italy's death toll climbs to 10,779, UK lockdown measures could last six months — from r/WorldNews at 16:58: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/vg1XLV | 19:03 |
| ubLIX | hehe | 19:03 |
| LjL | at least it looks like i managed to quiet myself before the last three were sent too | 19:04 |
| python476 | you did it, you overflowed copy past | 19:04 |
| LjL | based on what i see on matrix | 19:04 |
| oxalis | LjL: how does Brainstorm aggregate news sources? | 19:04 |
| LjL | oxalis, "how" in what sense? it's a hand-picked selection | 19:04 |
| LjL | god it's already 7pm | 19:05 |
| oxalis | okay. So it's just picking up RSS feeds? | 19:05 |
| LjL | damn DST | 19:05 |
| LjL | oxalis, yeah | 19:05 |
| LjL | it would be better if more things had RSS, these days not so many do | 19:05 |
| oxalis | yeah - that's a shame | 19:05 |
| oxalis | so much early internet was predicated on standard protocols and those have largely been predated upon by giant tech companies | 19:06 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +1457 cases (now 704181), +35 deaths (now 33221), +4 recoveries (now 149218) 🔸 US: +1237 cases (now 132640), +23 deaths (now 2352) 🔸 Pennsylvania, US: +643 cases (now 3394), +4 deaths (now 38) 🔹 Afghanistan: +10 cases (now 120) 🔹 Alabama, US: +60 cases (now 762) 🔹 Albania: +15 cases (now 212), +2 recoveries (now 33) [... want %more?] | 19:06 |
| LjL | oxalis, well Google News actually provides custom rss feeds | 19:07 |
| LjL | i had one of those in the bot when i made this channel | 19:08 |
| LjL | but it's not really in a great format for how the bot works, it was machine gun news on repeat | 19:08 |
| oxalis | Google did a lot to kill RSS when they killed their Reader | 19:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 17:06 UTC: /u/The_Fadge: Sistemi di sorveglianza stile "Grande Fratello" , ecco come la Russia implementa forme di tecnologia assolutiste per scovare il Coronavirus. — from r/WorldNews at 17:06: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/Z8CQmy | 19:09 |
| oxalis | %data texas | 19:09 |
| Brainstorm | oxalis: In Texas, US, there are 2329 cases, 30 deaths (1.3% of cases), 0 recoveries as of March 29, 00:05Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 19:09 |
| LjL | i'm going to change the way the r/worldnews feed is fetched, since right now it just keeps posting the livethread because it's pinned. if it gives silly "news" for a while bear with it, i'll just change it again | 19:11 |
| LjL | python476, so i forgot, that samsung you have... is it functional enough to reach the pulse oxymeter or now way? | 19:12 |
| oxalis | Looks like the death rate in Texas is on the rise, which I fully expect to continue until we start to see recoveries | 19:12 |
| sYN4P515 | LjL CoronaBot can do that | 19:13 |
| sYN4P515 | !r follow worldnews 5000 | 19:13 |
| CoronaBot | 09,01[OK] sYN4P515, I'm now following /04r/worldnews, minimum upvotes for a post to be shown is set to 5000 | 19:13 |
| LjL | okay, i have nothing specific to reddit so i cannot set a minimum amount of upvotes. CoronaBot is a bit too colorful for my tastes, but this may be useful | 19:14 |
| python476 | LjL: nah it's a scavenged s7 mobo | 19:15 |
| python476 | mostly | 19:15 |
| sYN4P515 | !r setvotes worldnews 3000 | 19:15 |
| CoronaBot | 09,01[OK] Successfully changed /04r/worldnews min votes to 3000 | 19:15 |
| sYN4P515 | LjL you can adjust it if you find it to be too spammy | 19:16 |
| rajrajraj | https://twitter.com/WerebeastDaddy/status/1244148921066192896 | 19:16 |
| LjL | sYN4P515, okay, can i just do what you did? | 19:16 |
| sYN4P515 | yup | 19:16 |
| LjL | rajrajraj, what the hell | 19:17 |
| ubLIX | sYN4P515: can you adjust it to get rid of its taste-the-rainbow colour scheme? | 19:18 |
| rajrajraj | LjL: exactly | 19:18 |
| sYN4P515 | hmm possiboly | 19:19 |
| sYN4P515 | would you prefer no colors at all? | 19:19 |
| ubLIX | yes please | 19:19 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/worldnews: Brazil court orders government to stop advising against virus isolation (3790 votes) | 19:19 |
| CoronaBot | https://www.france24.com/en/20200328-brazil-court-orders-government-to-stop-advising-against-virus-isolation | https://redd.it/fqu357 | 19:19 |
| sYN4P515 | ok i'll implement that tomorrow | 19:19 |
| LjL | python476, probably not good, but just fyi... https://www.amazon.fr/CONTEC-CMS50NA-Fingertip-Pulse-Oximeter/dp/B016XOBVY0/ this looks like it's sold by the manufacturer, which *is* located in China anyway, but they are somewhat known, they consistently have 100% as a seller in france (very few feedbacks though)... and the price is below the minimum taxable | 19:20 |
| CoronaBot | 09,01[URL] CONTEC CMS50NA Fingertip Pulse Oximeter OLED CE: Amazon.fr: HygiÚne et Soins du corps - amazon.fr | 19:20 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 17:15 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: up to six months to see if measures have 'squashed' virus, says deputy chief medical officer — from r/WorldNews at 17:15: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/ucQWhr | 19:20 |
| CoronaBot | 09,01[URL] UK coronavirus live: up to six months to see if measures have 'squashed' virus, says deputy chief medical officer | Politics | The Guardian - is.gd | 19:20 |
| LjL | sYN4P515, yes, me too. i keep the channel -c because my bot uses bold and italic, but i find colors a bit too much | 19:20 |
| sYN4P515 | whoops let me remove url service | 19:20 |
| LjL | i'm not even sure everyone is okay with the unicode diamonds i use in my bot's updates | 19:20 |
| lf94 | fine for me | 19:21 |
| lf94 | I suggest using no collors | 19:21 |
| lf94 | colors | 19:21 |
| LjL | sYN4P515, oh yeah some people also want that done automatically, but, look at it, it makes a couple of lines become a color party | 19:21 |
| LjL | sYN4P515, also can you make it ignore Brainstorm and CovBot? unpleasant things sometimes happen when bots start interacting with each other | 19:21 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +596 cases (now 704777), +13 deaths (now 33234) 🔹 Alabama, US: +5 cases (now 767) 🔹 Arizona, US: +146 cases (now 919), +2 deaths (now 17) 🔹 California, US: +1 deaths (now 123) 🔹 Delaware, US: +18 cases (now 232), +1 deaths (now 6) 🔹 Gibraltar: +9 cases (now 65) 🔹 Iowa, US: +38 cases (now 336) 🔹 North Carolina, US: +2 deaths (now 6) [... want %more?] | 19:21 |
| sYN4P515 | yup can do | 19:22 |
| ubLIX | honestly i think.. Brainstorm for ##covid-19 and CoronaBot for ##coronavirus would be a better idea altogether | 19:22 |
| sYN4P515 | they dont like bots at ##coronavirus :/ | 19:23 |
| dTal | it was getting out of hand | 19:24 |
| ubLIX | -vox, then | 19:24 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/worldnews: US pressures countries to reject Cuban aid during coronavirus pandemic (3004 votes) | 19:24 |
| CoronaBot | https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/w/us-pressures-countries-reject-cuban-aid-during-coronavirus-pandemic | https://redd.it/fr4zc1 | 19:24 |
| sYN4P515 | i see -vox as chat channel, whereas this is info channel | 19:25 |
| dTal | and to be honest I don't like the voyeurism of regular unsolicited statistical updates | 19:25 |
| sYN4P515 | dTal i can adjust it to something more reasonable, say once per 3h? | 19:25 |
| dTal | for link aggregations ##coronalinks would be good | 19:26 |
| rajrajraj | sYN4P515: they dont like humans either | 19:26 |
| sYN4P515 | oh yeah good idea | 19:27 |
| sYN4P515 | !r setvotes worldnews 6000 | 19:27 |
| CoronaBot | 09,01[OK] Successfully changed /04r/worldnews min votes to 6000 | 19:27 |
| LjL | dTal, i already run ##covid and ##covid-ticker that are just voyeur updates (one run using Matrix, the other IRC) | 19:27 |
| LjL | i am okay with other bots posting things there if they like | 19:27 |
| rajrajraj | is dTal promoting his anti human channel in here ? | 19:27 |
| LjL | he is not really promoting anything | 19:28 |
| rajrajraj | okay. | 19:28 |
| dTal | I would be happiest with voyeur bots being confined to voyeur channels, rather than barging in to human discussions | 19:28 |
| dTal | a bot that only responds to humans would be good in theory, except people can't seem to avoid spamming discussions with them | 19:28 |
| LjL | dTal, i think i want to see the +thing updates here, but i can understand that may just be me | 19:29 |
| Scarecr0w | That is one reason I wrote my own bot, i ask it what to do and when to do it, without disturbing anyone. | 19:29 |
| LjL | well yeah like !risk in CovBot | 19:29 |
| LjL | it's kinda good, though also scary | 19:29 |
| LjL | but it just leads people to keep calling it | 19:29 |
| dTal | a bot that responds to PM only would be an unqualified good I think | 19:29 |
| LjL | whenever you see someone called it for their age, you want to know it too for your age | 19:29 |
| LjL | and so it goes on until i say "please do it in PM" or something | 19:30 |
| dTal | I don't believe the stats in the !risk thing anyway | 19:30 |
| LjL | dTal, i think it's better if *people* realize they should PM, or otherwise we still see the commands, which is... better, but not great | 19:30 |
| LjL | dTal, well i'm agnostic on that, pwr22 used a model someone else made, i am not qualified to comment | 19:30 |
| ubLIX | the !risk output it a toy - seen as such by anyone interested and misleading to anyone not informed | 19:30 |
| dTal | LjL: responds *to* PMs, not *in* PMs -it would indeed be annoying if the queries were pubilc | 19:31 |
| LjL | ah, right | 19:31 |
| LjL | well, Brainstorm responds to PMs, just not exclusively... CovBot i think has some trouble with that sometimes due to the Matrix bridge | 19:31 |
| LjL | sometimes i use Brainstorm to actually show things to *someone else* | 19:31 |
| LjL | i think having channel bots is okay but requires an amount of balance, both in terms of bots nudging people in the right direction, and people telling other people (nicely) when the whole thing gets too annoying | 19:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 17:29 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Italy's death toll climbs to 10,779, UK lockdown measures could last six months — from r/WorldNews at 17:29: Livethread IX: Global COVID-19 Pandemic → https://is.gd/vg1XLV | 19:32 |
| LjL | oh god it's still posting the livethread, i just changed it so it wouldn't | 19:33 |
| sYN4P515 | !r setvotes worldnews 5000 | 19:33 |
| CoronaBot | 09,01[OK] Successfully changed /04r/worldnews min votes to 5000 | 19:33 |
| Scarecr0w | Did you modularize your bot? | 19:33 |
| sYN4P515 | me? kind of | 19:33 |
| LjL | except apparently i didn't save the file ;( | 19:34 |
| sYN4P515 | hah happens to me all the time LjL :p | 19:34 |
| Scarecr0w | I see, that's awesome. I gotta manually reboot the bot script when I make some changes. | 19:34 |
| sYN4P515 | yeah, right now i can add channels but not networks without restarting | 19:35 |
| Hoogvlieger | !risk | 19:35 |
| Hoogvlieger | !risk 63 | 19:35 |
| CovBot | I estimate a 63 year old patient sick with COVID-19 has a 97.7% chance of survival, a 32.3% likelihood of needing to go to hospital, a 11.7% risk of needing intensive care there and a 2.3% chance of death. | 19:36 |
| Scarecr0w | Oh, i can't PM commands to CovBot? | 19:37 |
| LjL | you can | 19:37 |
| LjL | whether it answers is another matter :P | 19:37 |
| LjL | no but, in theory it should reply | 19:37 |
| LjL | may take a while | 19:37 |
| Scarecr0w | Oh gotcha, it was just a little slow. Is it doing the calculation for !risk command itself or scraping it off? | 19:38 |
| LjL | i think it's doing it itself | 19:38 |
| LjL | but using a model obtained elsewhere | 19:38 |
| LjL | the source is at https://github.com/pwr22/covbot | 19:38 |
| Scarecr0w | Gotcha. | 19:38 |
| LjL | search for "risk" in the github and you'll find it | 19:38 |
| Hoogvlieger | !covbod ? | 19:38 |
| python476 | why is virus ends up in '-rus' | 19:38 |
| python476 | why is putin so silent | 19:38 |
| python476 | #gonefullrepilian | 19:38 |
| LjL | it just replied to me in PM but after about 20 seconds | 19:39 |
| LjL | i think the Matrix bridge is just horrendously slow these days | 19:39 |
| LjL | python476, i think you clearly have too little blood getting into your brain right now | 19:39 |
| python476 | yeah why bother with an oxymeter | 19:41 |
| python476 | a moronmeter is enough | 19:42 |
| Scarecr0w | I thought Python 4 ain't out yet. lol | 19:42 |
| LjL | python476, except by that metric i would have to agree with the people claiming at least 50% of the world is already infected | 19:42 |
| xrogaan | around 10k death in the last 4 days. | 19:42 |
| python476 | LjL: the truth is finally revealed | 19:42 |
| python476 | covidiocy is everywhere | 19:43 |
| xrogaan | I hope the rate doesn't increase for the 4 days that are yet to come. | 19:43 |
| python476 | Scarecr0w: you can download me for alpha testing | 19:43 |
| LjL | xrogaan, eh, expecting the rate not to increase right now is probably unrealistic :\ | 19:43 |
| LjL | the global rate at least | 19:43 |
| LjL | python476, that sounds exciting | 19:43 |
| python476 | stop it | 19:45 |
| LjL | what! | 19:46 |
| LjL | :< | 19:46 |
| python476 | ok, my diy oxymeter is starting nice | 19:46 |
| LjL | lol | 19:46 |
| python476 | I'm struggling to charge li-ion cells | 19:46 |
| python476 | bruh | 19:46 |
| LjL | what are you doing | 19:46 |
| LjL | s7 mobo? | 19:46 |
| python476 | nah I was restoring a tablet I found outside | 19:47 |
| xrogaan | there is a /r/Coronavirus/ too | 19:47 |
| python476 | xrogaan: r/covid19 | 19:47 |
| xrogaan | Wouldn't it be more relevant than /r/worldnews? | 19:47 |
| python476 | r/covid19_economics | 19:47 |
| LjL | yeah i have that in the bot too but i've rarely seen any posts coming from it, i really am not clear on which ways of using reddit's rss feeds end up reasonable | 19:47 |
| LjL | xrogaan, r/worldnews is filtered for coronavirus-related keywords | 19:47 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 17:41 UTC: /u/The_Fadge: Aumentano i dubbi attorno ai numeri di Wuhan a seguito di ingenti ordini di urne cinerarie. — from r/WorldNews at 17:41: Prisoner serving time for drug charge is first U.S. inmate to die from COVID-19 → https://is.gd/ok967H | 19:48 |
| python476 | reddit news are a bit noisy no matter when | 19:48 |
| python476 | it's like tv news but earlier | 19:48 |
| LjL | this is the rather long line of brainstorm config for its rss sources https://paste.ee/p/yyrwB | 19:48 |
| Hoogvlieger | !cases netherlands | 19:48 |
| CovBot | In Netherlands there have been a total of 10,866 cases as of 2020-03-29 17:34:00 UTC. Of these 9,845 (90.6%) are still sick or may have recovered without being recorded, 250 (2.3%) have definitely recovered and 771 (7.1%) have died. | 19:49 |
| LjL | they are filtered for the regexps at the end, except for the ones that have an asterisk in their name | 19:49 |
| xrogaan | python476: why not /r/coronavirus? | 19:49 |
| LjL | (that was a really ugly hack i did) | 19:49 |
| LjL | python476, earliest to give news is usually wikipedia despite the fact they keep repeating it's not for news | 19:49 |
| LjL | but i would have to somehow scrape WP:ITN/C i think | 19:49 |
| LjL | they have RSS feeds for the histories but i can't really use them as is | 19:50 |
| Hoogvlieger | !help | 19:50 |
| CoronaBot | 09,01[OK] Coronavirus commands: | 19:50 |
| CoronaBot | Show global stats: !corona | Show stats for a country/state (US/AU/CA): !corona country | Show stats for a county (US): !corona county, state (ex: !corona new york city, ny) | 19:50 |
| CoronaBot | Top ten infected countries today: !corona today | all-time: !corona alltime | Top ten countries with fatalities today: !corona todaydead | all-time: !corona alltimedead | 19:50 |
| CoronaBot | Top ten infected states/provinces: !usa !australia !canada | 19:50 |
| LjL | like... *that* shouldn't be in the channel ;( | 19:50 |
| xrogaan | maybe covbot should ignore irc based requests for help | 19:51 |
| LjL | and now two bots are both responding to the same ! commands | 19:51 |
| LjL | xrogaan, it has no idea they are from IRC | 19:51 |
| Strantrickt[m] | %data Turkey | 19:51 |
| Brainstorm | Strantrickt[m]: In all areas, Turkey, there are 9217 cases, 131 deaths (1.4% of cases), 105 recoveries as of March 29, 17:49Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Turkey for time series data. | 19:51 |
| metreo | !corona | 19:51 |
| CoronaBot | Total cases: 07707,738 (+44,656), deaths: 0433,526 (+2,670), recovered: 09150,732. Active cases: 04523,480, 02496,777 are in a mild condition, 0426,703 are in a serious condition. Mortality: 044.74%, case fatality rate: 0418.20%. Case rate: 0466,761/day, death rate: 043,518/day. Last update: 052m ago. | 19:51 |
| Scarecr0w | Is hardcoding it into the bot to allow only requests via. PM not possible? | 19:51 |
| ubLIX | mmmhm | 19:52 |
| LjL | okay, it's complicated | 19:52 |
| dunnp | ooh so much color in the bot | 19:52 |
| blkshp | and a dark blue that cannot be seen on black :( | 19:53 |
| LjL | sYN4P515, based on op and other feedback i'm asking to remove CoronaBot at least for now | 19:53 |
| mefistofeles | LjL: really? why? :) | 19:53 |
| LjL | and CovBot i'll have to figure it out, i could mute it on the IRC side and let it work on the Matrix side | 19:53 |
| oriba | and yellow can't be well seen on (nearly) white | 19:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 17:50 UTC: /u/pixelcraftables: Regno unito — from r/WorldNews at 17:50: Prisoner serving time for drug charge is first U.S. inmate to die from COVID-19 → https://is.gd/LEWOeS | 19:54 |
| ubLIX | i want to quiet CoronaBot and CovBot until a document is produced outlining guidance for bot deconfliction and output behaviour | 19:54 |
| mefistofeles | oriba: you cand isable colors on client side | 19:54 |
| LjL | ubLIX, i don't like your rulemaking process | 19:54 |
| mefistofeles | guess it's meant for dark background | 19:54 |
| pwr22 | Yeah, I like the coours but I wish they were less bright imo, might look different on a lighter theme though | 19:54 |
| LjL | ubLIX, and this is a joke but you have to look at other channels to know | 19:54 |
| oriba | mefistofeles: then I also don't see if I will be mentioned personally (highlighted via colors) | 19:54 |
| LjL | i think colors in general will never be cool with everyone | 19:54 |
| mefistofeles | oriba: no, that's different | 19:55 |
| mefistofeles | oriba: well,s hould be different | 19:55 |
| LjL | i draw the line at bold/italic when used for actual highlights | 19:55 |
| Hoogvlieger | !help | 19:55 |
| CoronaBot | 09,01[OK] Coronavirus commands: | 19:55 |
| CoronaBot | Show global stats: !corona | Show stats for a country/state (US/AU/CA): !corona country | Show stats for a county (US): !corona county, state (ex: !corona new york city, ny) | 19:55 |
| CoronaBot | Top ten infected countries today: !corona today | all-time: !corona alltime | Top ten countries with fatalities today: !corona todaydead | all-time: !corona alltimedead | 19:55 |
| CoronaBot | Top ten infected states/provinces: !usa !australia !canada | 19:55 |
| oriba | mefistofeles: depends on client I think | 19:55 |
| mefistofeles | wtf? | 19:55 |
| metreo | !corona china | 19:55 |
| mefistofeles | why are you quieting the best bot? | 19:55 |
| LjL | Hoogvlieger, why are you just keeping doing that? | 19:55 |
| Scarecr0w | What clients do you all use? | 19:55 |
| mefistofeles | Scarecr0w: irssi here | 19:55 |
| oriba | weechat | 19:55 |
| Hoogvlieger | I am finding out how it works. Problem? | 19:56 |
| pwr22 | The other problem I have is information overload. I prefer flowing english text with formatting and structured managable amoutns of information. I get a bit overwhelmed with too many numbers. | 19:56 |
| sYN4P515 | LjL i will fix the colors tomorrow, for now just keep it muted to your preference | 19:56 |
| LjL | mefistofeles, which bot do you consider the best? | 19:56 |
| LjL | really i don't know what to do here | 19:56 |
| mefistofeles | LjL: CoronaBot | 19:56 |
| Scarecr0w | Hoogvlieger: You can also PM the bot, as such, /query CovBot !help | 19:56 |
| LjL | everyone seems to have a very different preference | 19:56 |
| pwr22 | Hoogvlieger: better to DM it perhaps? | 19:56 |
| Hoogvlieger | Ok, i will stop doing that. I did not know. | 19:57 |
| Hoogvlieger | sorry | 19:57 |
| pwr22 | LjL: is ubLIX joking about muting bots? | 19:57 |
| pwr22 | I don't there's any clash in commands | 19:57 |
| LjL | pwr22, both respond to !help | 19:57 |
| LjL | and we were discussing that !risk is very prone to people chain-calling it | 19:57 |
| oriba | coronabot needs to draw graphs, histograms and so on :-) from ASCII Art to ASCII science :-) | 19:58 |
| pwr22 | Ah, I'll accelerate my plans for making it `!covbot help` etc | 19:58 |
| LjL | right now both are muted on IRC | 19:58 |
| LjL | maybe we should have a "best bot" contest | 19:58 |
| sYN4P515 | haha oriba good suggestion! a bit tricky to implement tho :p | 19:58 |
| Scarecr0w | lmao | 19:58 |
| mefistofeles | ok, yeah, we should have an agreement on this | 19:58 |
| mefistofeles | at least from ops | 19:58 |
| dTal | see this is why we don't like bots in ##coronavirus | 19:58 |
| pwr22 | I don't think it's meaningful to say there's a best bot imo | 19:58 |
| oriba | sYN4P515: and possibly annoying for normal reading here | 19:58 |
| dTal | you've just spent aaaaaaages talking about bots and not viruses | 19:58 |
| sYN4P515 | lol it's a good break from talkiing about covid :p | 19:59 |
| ubLIX | ^ that too | 19:59 |
| oriba | ok lets program a corona bot virus? | 19:59 |
| mefistofeles | dTal: everything was fine but all of a sudden people flooded the channel (I'm guessing from other channels) and they came with their bots, which is expected | 19:59 |
| mefistofeles | we just now have to see how to handle this | 19:59 |
| pwr22 | Now do I mind the occasional chain calls to any bot, though if it was badly flooding a room all day I obviously support it | 19:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 17:54 UTC: /u/pixelcraftables: Mondo — from r/WorldNews at 17:54: Prisoner serving time for drug charge is first U.S. inmate to die from COVID-19 → https://is.gd/EHl9Kb | 20:00 |
| LjL | well i don't know, let me state things from my point of view here | 20:00 |
| pwr22 | From my perspective on the matrix side - I don't think any of them should be muted 🤷♂️ | 20:00 |
| LjL | 1) Brainstorm is my bot, and i also made this channel, so Brainstorm is staying, with feedback from others but it's here to stay | 20:01 |
| dunnp | wow 500 people in here now | 20:01 |
| LjL | 2) colors are kind of off the table, based on the fact that they can really be disruptive and even picking "better" colors will only make sense depending on what background everyone is using | 20:01 |
| mefistofeles | again, people can disable colors on their clients | 20:01 |
| LjL | 3) responding with several lines to a single command i definitely see as problematic | 20:01 |
| mefistofeles | or we can disable them on the channel as well, but colors help for visualization (imho) | 20:02 |
| LjL | if i disable colors i also disable bold and italic, which is where i draw the line | 20:02 |
| mefistofeles | 3) can be solved if we could actually talk about this with the bot owners or similarly | 20:03 |
| sYN4P515 | LjL i can probably make a quick hack to disable colors for this chan right now | 20:03 |
| ubLIX | i rely on colour to attend to highlights | 20:03 |
| Scarecr0w | I'm really curious as to what colors people are referring to, I'm lost. I don't see any colors in Brainstorm's messages or any other bot's messages. https://i.imgur.com/tf1jVhe.png | 20:03 |
| mefistofeles | ubLIX: colors and hilights should be trated separatedly | 20:03 |
| mefistofeles | treated* | 20:03 |
| oriba | Is this here the team meeting on corona-botprogramming?! | 20:03 |
| pwr22 | <LjL "2) colors are kind of off the ta"> I'm targetting output that looks "ok" on matrix, IRC, WhatsApp and Telegram. Anything fancy is less reliable for me ☹︎ | 20:05 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +708 cases (now 708396), +6 deaths (now 33537), +2 recoveries (now 150733) 🔹 Angola: +2 cases (now 7), +2 deaths (now 2) 🔹 Burkina Faso: +15 cases (now 222), +1 deaths (now 12), +2 recoveries (now 23) 🔹 Canada: +357 cases (now 6243) 🔹 Ethiopia: +2 cases (now 21) 🔹 Japan: +173 cases (now 1866), +2 deaths (now 54) [... want %more?] | 20:05 |
| pwr22 | <oriba "Is this here the team meeting on"> It does seem to have gone that way 😁 | 20:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 18:02 UTC: /u/slakmehl: Nate Silver su Twitter: "The Netherlands flirted with using a herd immunity strategy and now their case fatality rate is 7%. https://t.co/5plSdXJbMK https://t.co/7R0xgUu7QL" — from r/WorldNews at 18:02: Prisoner serving time for drug charge is first U.S. inmate to die from COVID-19 → https://is.gd/wvqrWK | 20:06 |
| pwr22 | If anyone has problems with Cov Bot could they please message me? I'd rather people discuss any problems with me rather than silently stewing 🙂 | 20:07 |
| sYN4P515 | ok LjL I removed the colors for this chan | 20:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 18:10 UTC: Michigan and Louisiana are becoming virus hot spots — their governors warn supplies are running out: The governors of Michigan and Louisiana, two emerging hot spots of the coronavirus outbreak, warned Sunday of looming shortages of essential medical supplies as the health crisis worsens. [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/xZysgF | 20:18 |
| Scarecr0w | It's getting worse in the United States, damn! | 20:20 |
| xrogaan | %title https://medium.com/@cache_86525/covid-19-and-chinas-marshall-plan-b9ee8dd19416 | 20:20 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +2270 cases (now 710666), +21 deaths (now 33558) 🔸 US: +2416 cases (now 135510), +21 deaths (now 2384) 🔸 New Jersey, US: +2262 cases (now 13386), +21 deaths (now 161) 🔹 Angola: +2 cases (now 7), +2 deaths (now 2) 🔹 Burkina Faso: +15 cases (now 222), +1 deaths (now 12), +2 recoveries (now 23) 🔹 Canada: +357 cases (now 6243) [... want %more?] | 20:20 |
| Brainstorm | xrogaan: From medium.com: COVID-19 and China’s Marshall Plan. Fake aid and Fake news. | 20:20 |
| xrogaan | Mh.. | 20:20 |
| xrogaan | Scarecr0w: it won't get better, not with CarrotMan as POTUS | 20:21 |
| Scarecr0w | xrogaan: Sorry, what's a CarrotMan? | 20:21 |
| Scarecr0w | ohh | 20:22 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 18:21 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Global deaths top 30,000, UK lockdown measures could last six months — from r/WorldNews at 18:21: Fauci warns coronavirus could kill as many as 200,000 Americans - Top US infectious disease expert cautions that figure is a ‘moving target’ that could easily be wrong → https://is.gd/vg1XLV | 20:24 |
| spybert | 200k deaths is way too low. | 20:26 |
| spybert | 1% of 150 million is a lot more than that | 20:26 |
| xrogaan | don't worry, they'll just classify them as "pneumonia" related death | 20:27 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 18:28 UTC: Michigan and Louisiana are becoming virus hot spots — their governors warn supplies are already running out: The governors of Michigan and Louisiana, two emerging hot spots of the coronavirus outbreak, warned Sunday of looming shortages of essential medical supplies as the health crisis worsens. [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/xZysgF | 20:31 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +660 cases (now 711326), +3 deaths (now 33561) 🔹 Angola: +2 cases (now 7), +2 deaths (now 2) 🔹 Burkina Faso: +15 cases (now 222), +1 deaths (now 12), +2 recoveries (now 23) 🔹 Canada: +357 cases (now 6243) 🔹 Ethiopia: +2 cases (now 21) 🔹 Israel: +382 cases (now 4247) 🔹 Japan: +173 cases (now 1866), +2 deaths (now 54) [... want %more?] | 20:35 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 18:31 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Global deaths top 30,000, Rhode Island orders 14-day quarantine for out-of-state travelers — from r/WorldNews at 18:31: Somalia sends 20 volunteer doctors to help Italy contain COVID-19 → https://is.gd/vg1XLV | 20:37 |
| spybert | Is Iceland the country with 100% testing of the population? | 20:41 |
| LjL | i don't think they did that | 20:41 |
| LjL | but they tested a random sample | 20:41 |
| LjL | which other countries didn't do (afaik) | 20:41 |
| AimHere | Yeah. 1.5% of the population | 20:42 |
| AimHere | I suspect Faroe did something similar | 20:42 |
| aradesh | a doctor from my local hospital has died from coronavirus -.- | 20:43 |
| aradesh | not good | 20:43 |
| aradesh | hospital that's like a 15 minute walk from me | 20:43 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 18:39 UTC: Michigan and Louisiana are becoming virus hot spots — their governors warn supplies are already running out: The governors of Michigan and Louisiana, two emerging hot spots of the coronavirus outbreak, warned Sunday of looming shortages of essential medical supplies as the health crisis worsens. [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/xZysgF | 20:43 |
| spybert | I just read up on the Iceland data. It looks as if 50% of those infected have no symptoms whatsoever. | 20:44 |
| spybert | Most of the rest have very mild cold-like symptoms. That's probably how Fauci came up with the 200K death figure for the US. | 20:46 |
| spybert | https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/icelands-prolific-covid19-testing-is-telling-us-a-lot-about-the-outbreak/ | 20:46 |
| LjL | spybert, i think there should be a random sampling done in a country that's actually being hit hard | 20:49 |
| tinwhiskers | The death rate in iceland is 0.6/100k and in Italy it's 18/100k. The US will lie somewhere between those :-) | 20:49 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 18:44 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Global deaths top 30,000, Rhode Island orders 14-day quarantine for out-of-state travelers — from r/WorldNews at 18:44: Somalia sends 20 volunteer doctors to help Italy contain COVID-19 → https://is.gd/vg1XLV | 20:49 |
| LjL | but at the same time those are exactly the countries that would probably rather avoid doing that right now | 20:49 |
| AimHere | tinwhiskers, the CFR is really misleading, because all it's counting is how much testing is going on | 20:50 |
| mefistofeles | AimHere: it'svery correlated with that | 20:50 |
| mefistofeles | AimHere: depending on the actual number of tests being performed | 20:50 |
| tinwhiskers | Actually the death rate in the US is .072/100k right now but it's early and hospitals are not yet overwhelmed | 20:50 |
| mefistofeles | that's why Korea is a good one, Germany is emerging as a good one as well | 20:51 |
| tinwhiskers | AimHere: that is the per capita death rate, not the case fatality rate | 20:51 |
| mefistofeles | they are doing thousands of tests per day | 20:51 |
| Scarecr0w | https://twitter.com/i/events/1244316140559458305?s=13 | 20:51 |
| AimHere | tinwhiskers, Ah, then that's less misleading! | 20:51 |
| Blankspace | I feel better now in terms of breathing | 20:51 |
| IronY | Lows just called 'U sure u want ur chest freezer delivered tomorrow due to covid 19" | 20:51 |
| mefistofeles | the best one is actually checking the new cases vs total cases, as explained in some links we have shared | 20:52 |
| tinwhiskers | err, I mean US per capita death rate is 0.72/100k | 20:52 |
| mefistofeles | that could be done as well with death cases | 20:52 |
| IronY | "Yes Lowes, I am 100% sure I want the thing that will allow me to not leave the home, how ever, please just leave it on my porch" | 20:52 |
| mefistofeles | but it will be much more noisy there, for sure | 20:52 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 18:52 UTC: Cases globally surpass 660,000, Spain sees highest daily jump in deaths: The U.S. remained the country with the highest number of cases at 124,686, data compiled by the Johns Hopkins University showed. — from r/WorldNews at 18:52: Somalia sends 20 volunteer doctors to help Italy contain COVID-19 → https://is.gd/53zslH | 20:55 |
| CopyWriter | hello all | 20:57 |
| ArthurStrong | CopyWriter: hello indeed | 20:58 |
| ArthurStrong | Anyone in Kiev and/or Ukraine? Just wondering. | 20:59 |
| CopyWriter | haven't been in irc for decades | 21:00 |
| ArthurStrong | CopyWriter: almost nothing changed :) | 21:01 |
| mefistofeles | more bots, less users | 21:01 |
| mefistofeles | ;) | 21:01 |
| CopyWriter | that i can see :) | 21:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 18:56 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Global deaths top 30,000, Rhode Island orders 14-day quarantine for out-of-state travelers — from r/WorldNews at 18:56: Somalia sends 20 volunteer doctors to help Italy contain COVID-19 → https://is.gd/vg1XLV | 21:02 |
| pwr22 | CopyWriter: I'm not even on IRC right now 😁 | 21:05 |
| ArthurStrong | pwr22: where are you then? | 21:06 |
| CopyWriter | i'm an old guy is pwr22 a bot | 21:06 |
| ubLIX | [m] doesn't mean bot, CopyWriter | 21:06 |
| pwr22 | I'm using https://matrix.org, a new fangled communication network | 21:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 18:59 UTC: The coronavirus is starting to hit rural America hard—here's a map of the counties most affected: The coronavirus is rapidly surging throughout the United States, with some small rural counties leading the country in per capita rates of confirmed cases, according to a CNBC data analysis. [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/eRwLxw | 21:08 |
| kreyren | Based on https://eurozpravy.cz/zahranicni/eu/nemecko-v-soku-ministr-financi-thomas-schafer-spachal-sebevrazdu-asi-kvuli-koronaviru.24cc4053/ Thomas Shäfer (Germany minister of finances) committed a suicide due to the Covid-19 outbreak. | 21:13 |
| kreyren | see also https://www.dw.com/en/german-state-finance-minister-thomas-sch%C3%A4fer-found-dead/a-52948976 | 21:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 19:04 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: Spain records new highest daily death toll, as Syria reports first Covid-19 death [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/fx946D | 21:14 |
| Clippy | kreyren Yes, he did. | 21:14 |
| Clippy | Or at least that's what German sources are reporting as well. | 21:14 |
| Clippy | WHY AM I CLIPPY AGAIN?! | 21:14 |
| mefistofeles | Clippy is back! | 21:14 |
| mefistofeles | been missing it | 21:14 |
| blkshp | clippit | 21:15 |
| blkshp | it's name was clippit :D! | 21:15 |
| Birosso | I prefer teh nickname. | 21:16 |
| blkshp | yeah me too :) | 21:16 |
| ArthurStrong | Anyone knows, is it safe to ride bike around city these days? | 21:16 |
| Birosso | Clipit sounds like... a piece of code. Clippy sounds like a friend. | 21:16 |
| Birosso | Or a creepy stalker. | 21:16 |
| blkshp | Well he was a creepy stalker :) | 21:16 |
| blkshp | I'm watching you write a letter | 21:17 |
| mefistofeles | ArthurStrong: which city? | 21:17 |
| ArthurStrong | mefistofeles: Kiev/Ukraine... there are relatively good situation these days... | 21:17 |
| ArthurStrong | 418 confirmed ill in Ukraine... | 21:18 |
| ArthurStrong | 9 deaths | 21:18 |
| mefistofeles | ArthurStrong: that means they are not testing enough/correctly | 21:18 |
| mefistofeles | most likely | 21:18 |
| ArthurStrong | mefistofeles: maybe... | 21:19 |
| LjL | 18<Evolver> You're the quite the sad individual | 21:19 |
| LjL | 18<Evolver> Ghost blocking people in your channel | 21:19 |
| LjL | 18<Evolver> Only the sickest individuals do this kind of thing | 21:19 |
| mefistofeles | 9 deaths commonly means around 1000 cases, and more than 100 cases commonly means it's already spreading in the community | 21:19 |
| LjL | Evolver, i'm sorry, but i mute people in this channel for a reason: | 21:19 |
| LjL | Evolver, unlike other channels, if i ban you, you can no longer even see the discussion, and COVID-19 is a matter of pressing importance for everyone | 21:20 |
| LjL | i basically haven't *banned* anyone in here, because of that | 21:20 |
| LjL | but a quiet is very close to a ban, and if you don't want to join here, you can just... not join here | 21:20 |
| LjL | if you do choose to join, you're quieted | 21:20 |
| LjL | and that's not changing now | 21:20 |
| mefistofeles | oh, he's quieted | 21:20 |
| mefistofeles | ok | 21:20 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +1035 cases (now 712361), +20 deaths (now 33581), +93 recoveries (now 150826) 🔸 Germany: +505 cases (now 61164), +8 deaths (now 490) 🔹 Angola: +2 cases (now 7), +2 deaths (now 2) 🔹 Aruba: +4 cases (now 50) 🔹 Burkina Faso: +15 cases (now 222), +1 deaths (now 12), +2 recoveries (now 23) 🔹 Canada: +372 cases (now 6258) 🔹 Djibouti: +4 cases (now 18) [... want %more?] | 21:20 |
| ArthurStrong | So you think it's still better to stay at home... OK | 21:21 |
| mefistofeles | ArthurStrong: yes, don't go out unless you really need to, as usual | 21:21 |
| Slamz | wonder if CDC's estimate of 12-18 months of this shit is true | 21:22 |
| kreyren | Imagine being a germany that laughs at czech republic for enforcing drastic measures agains covid-19 outbreak and wearing masks only for their Minister of finances to commit suicide shortly after | 21:22 |
| LjL | Evolver, not the "blocking" should no longer be "ghost", i hope that suits you | 21:22 |
| LjL | now* | 21:22 |
| twomoon | quien es Tomas Schafer | 21:23 |
| Slamz | at least world economy is burning to ground nicely | 21:23 |
| CopyWriter | %more | 21:23 |
| Brainstorm | CopyWriter, [...] 🔹 Egypt: +33 cases (now 609), +4 deaths (now 40), +11 recoveries (now 132) 🔹 Ethiopia: +2 cases (now 21) 🔹 Israel: +382 cases (now 4247), +43 recoveries (now 132) 🔹 Japan: +173 cases (now 1866), +2 deaths (now 54) 🔹 Jordan: +13 cases (now 259), +1 deaths (now 2) 🔹 Kansas, US: +58 cases (now 319), +1 deaths (now 6) [...] → https://paste.ee/p/V1tX3 | 21:23 |
| mefistofeles | twomoon: Hessen (German state) ministry of Finance | 21:26 |
| mefistofeles | Slamz: for the US? might as well be | 21:26 |
| mefistofeles | unless people comply with the strict measures | 21:26 |
| BobCat | Any bichemists here care to comment on the effect of ACE2 blockers like valsartan as a possible prophylactic? | 21:27 |
| BobCat | bio | 21:27 |
| BobCat | or bi, I'n not phobic | 21:27 |
| python476 | phobioc | 21:27 |
| Slamz | I'm particular to following how Egypt develops. Its population density map for their 90 million people is terrifying. | 21:28 |
| Slamz | Everyone along Nile banks, rest is desert | 21:28 |
| LjL | 90 million | 21:28 |
| BobCat | yes but lots of smokers | 21:28 |
| LjL | somehow i never knew its population, even as orders of magnitude | 21:28 |
| BobCat | shisa will kill everyone | 21:28 |
| BobCat | I expect NYC to oulaw hookah bars | 21:29 |
| Slamz | and massive drug problem to really top it off | 21:29 |
| ArthurStrong | a rare case when smoking is good for health? There are still many smokers in ex-USSR countries | 21:31 |
| kreyren | BobCat, fwiw czech republic got ramdesivir for 34yo who was in critical state on CPB where remdesivir improved his condition to the point where he's on the ventilator | 21:31 |
| BobCat | no way can cigarettes help, you go hand to mouth 20 times a day 10 reps | 21:31 |
| kreyren | afaik ramdesivir is supposed to interact in some way with ACE2 to prevent the spread | 21:31 |
| kreyren | BobCat, czech republic was also considering Oseltamivir and is getting avigain from japan which is supposed to have an effect on covid-19 | 21:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health at 19:23 UTC: (news): Coronavirus: Six months before UK 'returns to normal' - deputy chief medical officer [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/FK5vgF | 21:32 |
| kreyren | BobCat, see https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/18/japanese-flu-drug-clearly-effective-in-treating-coronavirus-says-china | 21:32 |
| kreyren | BobCat, https://www.praguemorning.cz/czech-patient-conditions-improved-after-being-treated-with-remdesivir/ | 21:33 |
| mefistofeles | Taiwan has been reporting some results with redemsivir since early feb, iirc | 21:33 |
| BobCat | ramdesivir does not have anyting to do with ACE2 receptors | 21:33 |
| kreyren | BobCat, If you need more info on that i guess that you can contact the hospital in question for more informations | 21:33 |
| mefistofeles | but it's still not conclusive it is a good enough treatment | 21:33 |
| kreyren | BobCat, i was told that it does that it's supposed to prevent coronaviruses in general from spreading more through ACE2 this way | 21:34 |
| kreyren | info on that is unknown mostly because it's an experimental cure from what i was told | 21:34 |
| BobCat | wp: "It was unknown whether it terminates RNA chains or causes mutations in them" | 21:34 |
| BobCat | ACE2 blockers mess withthe receptors 2019-vcov hooks, totally different | 21:34 |
| BobCat | ncov | 21:35 |
| BobCat | not the the blockers are proved to block the hooks | 21:35 |
| kreyren | i guess? would be helpful to have more info on that from some valid paper | 21:35 |
| aradesh | one of the UK science officials has said "Normal life will not resume for at least six months" | 21:35 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +1010 cases (now 713371), +26 deaths (now 33607), +54 recoveries (now 150880) 🔸 US: +828 cases (now 136785), +22 deaths (now 2413), +52 recoveries (now 4430) 🔸 Michigan, US: +828 cases (now 5486), +21 deaths (now 132) 🔹 Angola: +2 cases (now 7), +2 deaths (now 2) 🔹 Aruba: +4 cases (now 50) 🔹 Austria: +32 cases (now 8743) [... want %more?] | 21:35 |
| kreyren | aradesh, i would say more assuming the way that US and some other countries handle the situation that is likely to cause the virus to spread more | 21:36 |
| CopyWriter | %data trinidad | 21:36 |
| Brainstorm | CopyWriter: In all areas, Trinidad and Tobago, there are 76 cases, 3 deaths (3.9% of cases), 1 recoveries as of March 29, 19:31Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Trinidad%20and%20Tobago for time series data. | 21:36 |
| CopyWriter | %data caribbean | 21:37 |
| Brainstorm | CopyWriter: Sorry, caribbean not found. Either there aren't cases, or it's under a different name. | 21:37 |
| aradesh | does that mean i'll be working from home for 6 months? | 21:37 |
| aradesh | i'll save a lot of money on train fairs | 21:37 |
| aradesh | fares | 21:37 |
| aradesh | i'm currently losing about £300 on a train pass i'm not using | 21:37 |
| aradesh | so i'm hoping i work from home for long enough to make that back :D | 21:37 |
| BobCat | no refunds? | 21:38 |
| aradesh | i don't think so? | 21:38 |
| python476 | no extension ? | 21:38 |
| aradesh | i mean, i bought the train ticket, it's not my fault i'm not using it | 21:38 |
| aradesh | i mean | 21:38 |
| aradesh | it's not their fault* | 21:38 |
| aradesh | i could use it if i wanted | 21:38 |
| aradesh | i just don't need to now i'm working from home | 21:39 |
| BobCat | the train tickets on tyhe NYC line here are refundable for a small $10 charge | 21:39 |
| BobCat | so a $11 ticket can be cancelled for $10 | 21:39 |
| aradesh | hmm. maybe i can get some refund | 21:39 |
| aradesh | let's see | 21:40 |
| twomoon | i see mefistofeles . seems weird that he would commit suicide because germany is handling it well so far | 21:40 |
| aradesh | wow. seems i can | 21:42 |
| aradesh | i have to cut my train pass in half and photograph it | 21:42 |
| mefistofeles | twomoon: the economic consequences will be devastating, for sure, but I don't really think his suicide is that related to the pandemic | 21:44 |
| mefistofeles | omfg... the national health institute's website is down... ¬¬ | 21:45 |
| aradesh | actually it seems that's just if i bought it through that website.. seems i might have to do it at the ticket office, uff. | 21:45 |
| tinwhiskers | ubLIX: You about? | 21:48 |
| twomoon | lol mefistofeles germany is positioned to take this beating better than almost any other country | 21:49 |
| ubLIX | tinwhiskers: Hi. | 21:49 |
| tinwhiskers | Hey | 21:49 |
| mefistofeles | twomoon: I don't know, my roommate is not sure about that, he'san economist | 21:50 |
| BobCat | price gouging in full force: Unopened White Vinegar 1 Gallon $44.95 eBay | 21:50 |
| tinwhiskers | I was about to gather US state populations but didn't want to waste my or your effort if you're already doing it. | 21:50 |
| freq | |> "Smothered" by "Skinless" on "Foreshadowing Our Demise" <3 | 21:50 |
| BobCat | normally $5 | 21:50 |
| mefistofeles | %wa US per state population | 21:50 |
| Brainstorm | mefistofeles, Wolfram|Alpha (all US states with District of Columbia | population): Summary: total | 325.7 million people highest | 39.54 million people (California) lowest | 579315 people (Wyoming) distribution | | (2017) → https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=US+per+state+population | 21:50 |
| tinwhiskers | handy | 21:50 |
| mefistofeles | heh | 21:50 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +1158 cases (now 714529), +18 deaths (now 33625) 🔸 US: +1158 cases (now 137943), +18 deaths (now 2431) 🔸 Illinois, US: +1105 cases (now 4596), +18 deaths (now 65) 🔹 Angola: +2 cases (now 7), +2 deaths (now 2) 🔹 Aruba: +4 cases (now 50) 🔹 Austria: +32 cases (now 8743) 🔹 Burkina Faso: +15 cases (now 222), +1 deaths (now 12), +2 recoveries (now 23) [... want %more?] | 21:50 |
| ubLIX | tinwhiskers: i was going to continue with that, but i was planning to take today off all such exercises; brain/eyes are wanting a break | 21:51 |
| tinwhiskers | OK, I'll do that then. I'm quite fond of the per-capita death rates and want to see what the individual states look like :-) | 21:52 |
| twomoon | tinwhiskers can i have your perl code in case you go down or something. i'd like to carry on the legacy | 21:52 |
| mefistofeles | tinwhiskers: nj | 21:52 |
| twomoon | the mission is too important at this point | 21:52 |
| ubLIX | tinwhiskers: ok, i'll try to pick it up tomorrow starting with somewhere other than the US states | 21:53 |
| tinwhiskers | ok. cheers | 21:54 |
| freq | there is a better #covid-19 on i2p ircd | 21:54 |
| freq | no one bans | 21:55 |
| freq | and it's a darknet | 21:55 |
| freq | https://geti2p.net/en/about/performance | 21:55 |
| freq | https://i2pd.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ | 21:56 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 19:49 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Global deaths top 30,000, Rhode Island orders 14-day quarantine for out-of-state travelers — from r/WorldNews at 19:49: Belarus president refuses to cancel anything - and says vodka and saunas will ward off coronavirus → https://is.gd/vg1XLV | 21:57 |
| mefistofeles | freq: please don't spam that here | 21:58 |
| freq | no such thing as spam on i2p | 21:58 |
| freq | you're living in a dreamworld of control and power | 21:59 |
| twomoon | shit they're starting to lock down state borders now in the US | 21:59 |
| dishant | i dont trust politicians. | 22:00 |
| twomoon | what is i2p | 22:00 |
| mefistofeles | it's a network built on top of the internet, kinda like tor | 22:00 |
| twomoon | oh interesting | 22:02 |
| mefistofeles | it is pretty interesting, indeed | 22:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 19:56 UTC: /u/slakmehl: Sky News su Twitter: "Coronavirus: Belarus president refuses to cancel anything - and says vodka and saunas will ward off coronavirus https://t.co/Iu0WbxbGNv" — from r/WorldNews at 19:56: Belarus president refuses to cancel anything - and says vodka and saunas will ward off coronavirus → https://is.gd/haPqq2 | 22:03 |
| BobCat | ok how do I make a sauna | 22:04 |
| BobCat | I have vodka | 22:04 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +1180 cases (now 715709), +37 deaths (now 33662), +2 recoveries (now 150882) 🔸 US: +831 cases (now 138774), +7 deaths (now 2438), +2 recoveries (now 4432) 🔸 Massachusetts, US: +698 cases (now 4955), +4 deaths (now 48) 🔹 Angola: +2 cases (now 7), +2 deaths (now 2) 🔹 Arkansas, US: +12 cases (now 421) 🔹 Aruba: +4 cases (now 50) [... want %more?] | 22:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 20:03 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Global deaths top 30,000, Moscow tightens coronavirus rules — from r/WorldNews at 20:03: Belarus president refuses to cancel anything - and says vodka and saunas will ward off coronavirus → https://is.gd/vg1XLV | 22:09 |
| DrGoRI | Hello y'all | 22:20 |
| DrGoRI | !coronabot France | 22:20 |
| mefistofeles | DrGoRI: that bot is currently not working here | 22:21 |
| mefistofeles | use %cases | 22:21 |
| yuriwho | %t https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/03/29/coronavirus-strategy-economy-plan/ | 22:24 |
| Brainstorm | yuriwho: From www.washingtonpost.com: How to evaluate and eventually ease coronavirus restrictions - The Washington Post | 22:24 |
| DrGoRI | Hello Mefisto, seems I've got a synthax problem | 22:25 |
| ubLIX | %cases france | 22:26 |
| Brainstorm | ubLIX: In all areas, France, there are 40174 cases, 2606 deaths (6.5% of cases), 7202 recoveries as of March 29, 20:19Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=France for time series data. | 22:26 |
| DrGoRI | Thanks ubLIX | 22:27 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 20:25 UTC: /u/slakmehl: Liberty University Brings Back Its Students, and Coronavirus, Too - The New York Times — from r/WorldNews at 20:25: Belarus president refuses to cancel anything - and says vodka and saunas will ward off coronavirus → https://is.gd/8mYS38 | 22:28 |
| maxxe | %data sweden | 22:31 |
| Brainstorm | maxxe: In all areas, Sweden, there are 3700 cases, 110 deaths (3.0% of cases), 16 recoveries as of March 29, 20:19Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Sweden for time series data. | 22:31 |
| maxxe | %italy | 22:33 |
| maxxe | %data italy | 22:34 |
| Brainstorm | maxxe: In all areas, Italy, there are 97689 cases, 10779 deaths (11.0% of cases), 13030 recoveries as of March 29, 20:19Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Italy for time series data. | 22:34 |
| DrGoRI | !help | 22:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 20:29 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Global deaths top 30,000, Moscow tightens coronavirus rules — from r/WorldNews at 20:29: Belarus president refuses to cancel anything - and says vodka and saunas will ward off coronavirus → https://is.gd/vg1XLV | 22:34 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +2323 cases (now 718032), +222 deaths (now 33884), +7 recoveries (now 150889) 🔸 Spain: +1133 cases (now 80031), +184 deaths (now 6802) 🔸 Germany: +931 cases (now 62095), +35 deaths (now 525) 🔹 Angola: +2 cases (now 7), +2 deaths (now 2) 🔹 Arkansas, US: +12 cases (now 421) 🔹 Aruba: +4 cases (now 50) 🔹 Austria: +32 cases (now 8743) [... want %more?] | 22:35 |
| DrGoRI | !covbot France | 22:37 |
| orgg | %cases wisconsin | 22:39 |
| Brainstorm | orgg: In Wisconsin, US, there are 1112 cases, 15 deaths (1.3% of cases), 0 recoveries as of March 29, 00:05Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 22:39 |
| Tobi[m] | !covbot Germany | 22:39 |
| niko22 | !covbot scotland | 22:40 |
| niko22 | !covbot Scotland | 22:40 |
| LjL | sub-UK data isn't available | 22:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 20:35 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Field hospital set up inside Central Park, Moscow tightens coronavirus rules — from r/WorldNews at 20:35: Belarus president refuses to cancel anything - and says vodka and saunas will ward off coronavirus → https://is.gd/vg1XLV | 22:40 |
| LjL | i think | 22:40 |
| balaa[m] | anyone else seeing reports that chinese medical supplies/tests sent to europe are defective? | 22:42 |
| bin_bash | yep | 22:42 |
| balaa[m] | WTF, china | 22:42 |
| Scarecr0w | wtf, seriously China? | 22:43 |
| bin_bash | theyre not passing FDA approval | 22:43 |
| bin_bash | either** | 22:43 |
| lf94 | lol what? | 22:43 |
| LjL | well, the one that the US initially made didn't exactly pass FDA approval with shining colors either... | 22:43 |
| bin_bash | that's true, but we never sent defective PPE to other countries | 22:44 |
| bin_bash | and at this point there's no excuse for faulty tests, either by the CDC or china | 22:44 |
| genera | i also see reports that China claims that those companies didnet have the neccesaruy chinese licenses either | 22:44 |
| LjL | meanwhile courtesy of ##science and archive.org since subscription-walls are annoynig: https://web.archive.org/web/20200329201633/https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/29/world/asia/coronavirus-china.html | 22:44 |
| DrGoRI | !compare France;Germany;Italy | 22:46 |
| balaa[m] | how many bots are in this channel? who's developing them? | 22:47 |
| Scarecr0w | I think LjL has one, pwr22 has one too I think. | 22:48 |
| balaa[m] | kudos for your work | 22:48 |
| balaa[m] | most people here from irc? or matrix? or what else? | 22:49 |
| Scarecr0w | Anyone good with English, could I bother you to help me understand what this article is trying to say? https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/23/coronavirus-crisis-approaches-health-vs-economy-ti/ "Can't have the cure be worse than the problem"? what does that even supposed to mean? lol | 22:49 |
| ubLIX | Scarecr0w: that the economic and psychological effects of widespread lock down could be devastating, more so than the pandemic itself, is the argument | 22:50 |
| yuriwho | niko22: https://covidlive.co.uk | 22:52 |
| pwr22 | <balaa[m] "most people here from irc? or ma"> I'm on matrix as is CovBot | 22:52 |
| LjL | balaa[m], and i'm on IRC, but really i haven't counted how many are from one and the other | 22:54 |
| tinwhiskers | LjL: is "P.A. Trento" and "Trentino-South Tyrol" the same region? | 22:58 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, no | 22:58 |
| tinwhiskers | damn | 22:59 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, the situation is strange there | 22:59 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, the *region* is "Trentino-Alto Adige-South Tyrol" (with variations on those names, since the latter part is the german speaking part, and in Italian we usually just call it "Trentino-Alto Adige") | 22:59 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, however, the region contains only two provinces, which are Trento and Bolzano, and both are "autonomous" province, which is a status they alone have | 22:59 |
| LjL | in practice they are two different regions, in terms of their political powers | 23:00 |
| LjL | but nominally they form one region | 23:00 |
| tinwhiskers | I'm looking for populations for the regions of Italy used on offloop. I'm missing "P.A. Bolzano" and "P.A. Trento" but my population data also has "Trentino-South Tyrol" unaccounted for. | 23:00 |
| LjL | P.A. stands for Provincia Autonoma | 23:00 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, you mean you have none of those three? | 23:00 |
| tinwhiskers | I have population data for "Trentino-South Tyrol" but it's not used on offloop | 23:01 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, okay, i'd say use that, and drop the PAs | 23:01 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, what people normally know is the regions, including "Trentino-South Tyrol" | 23:01 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, i suspect most italians would have no clue why Trento and Bolzano are there separately, despite the other regions not being split up into provinces | 23:02 |
| tinwhiskers | But offloop has case data for P.A. Bolzano and P.A. Trento | 23:02 |
| tinwhiskers | so I want populations for those | 23:02 |
| python476 | remember early videos of trump claming hoax | 23:02 |
| python476 | how soon these went away | 23:02 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, well if your new data doesn't have them i don't know where to get them either ;( couldn't you just sum the data for those and *turn* them into Trentino-South Tyrol? | 23:02 |
| LjL | python476, still enough people calling it a hoax or at least "a flu" though | 23:03 |
| LjL | more than enough | 23:03 |
| tinwhiskers | my case data has them, so I just need population data for them | 23:04 |
| IronY | 400,000 Us people commit suicide a year | 23:04 |
| tinwhiskers | I'll keep looking. You've clarified the problem anyway. | 23:04 |
| IronY | and thats on a normal year | 23:04 |
| IronY | lets amp that up by a very low ball 2x | 23:04 |
| IronY | so now we are sitting at 800,000 | 23:04 |
| IronY | %data us | 23:04 |
| Brainstorm | IronY: In all areas, US, there are 139217 cases, 2440 deaths (1.8% of cases), 4435 recoveries as of March 29, 20:49Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 23:04 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, oh, actual population | 23:04 |
| tinwhiskers | yeah | 23:05 |
| IronY | There is a very real concern 'the cure is worse then the virus' | 23:05 |
| IronY | love or hate trump | 23:05 |
| IronY | thats based on actual numbers | 23:05 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, Bolzano: 107436 Trento: 118160 according to wikipedia and recorded in 2018 | 23:05 |
| tinwhiskers | Thanks :-) that'll do just fine | 23:05 |
| LjL | uh | 23:05 |
| DrGoRI | Confinement should be the all way around | 23:05 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, no no i'm sorry | 23:06 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, those are wrong | 23:06 |
| python476 | LjL: so weird | 23:06 |
| tinwhiskers | oh. ok | 23:06 |
| balaa[m] | pwr22: what tooling are you using for matrix integration? | 23:06 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, i got the cities, you want the provinces | 23:06 |
| DrGoRI | Confine people at risk. Surveillance for the rest. | 23:06 |
| LjL | python476, that's what happens when you have world wars | 23:06 |
| tinwhiskers | yah | 23:06 |
| python476 | LjL: it felt like a bad dystopian movie indeed | 23:07 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, okay so more like: Bolzano (province) aka South Tyrol: 530009, Trento (province) aka Trentino: 539898 | 23:07 |
| pwr22 | <balaa[m] "pwr22: what tooling are you usin"> Maubot | 23:08 |
| tinwhiskers | Grazie | 23:08 |
| DrGoRI | ...surveillance for the rest and also distanciation, etc... | 23:08 |
| ubLIX | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regions_of_Italy#Regions | 23:09 |
| ubLIX | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provinces_of_Italy#List_of_provinces | 23:09 |
| ubLIX | ^ these no good, tinwhiskers? | 23:09 |
| tinwhiskers | ubLIX: that's what I used. | 23:09 |
| tinwhiskers | but it has P.A. Bolzano P.A. Trento combined into Trentino-South Tyrol it appears | 23:10 |
| ubLIX | ah | 23:11 |
| DrGoRI | Bye | 23:12 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 World: +517 cases (now 718549), +12 deaths (now 33896), +28 recoveries (now 150917) 🔹 Alabama, US: +53 cases (now 820), +5 deaths (now 9) 🔹 Alaska, US: +17 cases (now 102) 🔹 Angola: +2 cases (now 7), +2 deaths (now 2) 🔹 Arkansas, US: +12 cases (now 421) 🔹 Aruba: +4 cases (now 50) 🔹 Austria: +63 cases (now 8774) [... want %more?] | 23:21 |
| ryouma | with decontaminated deliveries of disease- and culture-appropriate food and medicine for the former --- 14:06 <DrGoRI> Confine people at risk. Surveillance for the rest. | 23:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 21:10 UTC: Coronavirus Australia update live: curbs on public gatherings take effect – latest news: Australian prime minister Scott Morrison announced further restrictions on Sunday, including limiting public gatherings to two people. Follow all the latest Covid-19 updates [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/isSr2C | 23:24 |
| IronY | 3 people using my plex | 23:29 |
| IronY | I have become netflix | 23:29 |
| Scarecr0w | IronY: You run Plex server as well? :D | 23:35 |
| Brainstorm | 🔸 US: +837 cases (now 139745), +10 deaths (now 2448), +3 recoveries (now 4435) 🔹 Alabama, US: +53 cases (now 820), +5 deaths (now 9) 🔹 Alaska, US: +17 cases (now 102) 🔹 Angola: +2 cases (now 7), +2 deaths (now 2) 🔹 Arkansas, US: +12 cases (now 421) 🔹 Aruba: +4 cases (now 50) 🔹 Austria: +63 cases (now 8774) [... want %more?] | 23:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 21:30 UTC: A new coronavirus drive-through testing site is opening in the Bronx: Drive-through centers have been opening around the country in an attempt to provide quicker and safer testing to people as state and local officials grapple with a shortage of coronavirus tests in the U.S. [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/seA9Kx | 23:36 |
| IronY | Scarecr0w: Yeah normally it is for me and the wife | 23:39 |
| IronY | but I started letting a few family and friends in | 23:39 |
| IronY | my father is currently watching jimanji, he is 6 hours away, but just seeing the little dash board playing is actually super reassuring | 23:40 |
| IronY | I know he is safe in front of a tv | 23:40 |
| Scarecr0w | IronY: The feeling when you see others using your server is mutual, i've 5-8 friends streaming during the peak hours as well. | 23:43 |
| _io_ | that's really nice irony. | 23:43 |
| IronY | Scarecr0w: whats ur upload / any tips | 23:43 |
| Albright | What is this? A system to host video files? | 23:44 |
| IronY | http://plex.tv | 23:44 |
| Scarecr0w | IronY: Mine's gigabit network, fiber, so my preference might not be similar to others but I think it all comes down to having a collection of stuff that is compatible with most people's systems to avoid transcode as my server is 5-6yr old laptop XD | 23:45 |
| IronY | hrm I have a 1070 I am not using | 23:45 |
| balaa[m] | cool! I'm working on a distributed compute layer for non-technical end-users | 23:45 |
| IronY | time to install that / patch a linux kernel to avoid cudas 2 transcode limit | 23:45 |
| Scarecr0w | Yeah, i heard of that nvidia fix, but at the same time, i've heard it ain't as powerful as CPU transcodes though. | 23:46 |
| balaa[m] | should we create a #covid-19-technical room? | 23:46 |
| Albright | So the system is free but it has a built-in paid music service? | 23:46 |
| IronY | balaa[m]: probably not, the more rooms u have, the less conversation that occurs overall in all rooms | 23:46 |
| Albright | s/system is /software is/ | 23:46 |
| Brainstorm | Albright meant to say: So the software isfree but it has a built-in paid music service? | 23:46 |
| IronY | I know this is a covid19 room, but this is also a covid19 support channel from my assumptions, not everything needs to be 'we're all fucked' | 23:46 |
| Scarecr0w | It's basically a platform to turn "YOUR" media files into "YOUR" netflix. XD | 23:47 |
| balaa[m] | 🙂 fair enouch, i'd just be concerned of scaring people away with technical deep dives | 23:47 |
| IronY | balaa[m]: There has been 0 technical deep dives, if you can connect to irc, u can setup plex :P | 23:48 |
| Scarecr0w | mehh, it wouldn't scare me, everyone's gotta start somewhere. | 23:48 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 21:45 UTC: Coronavirus Australia update live: curbs on public gatherings take effect – latest news: Australian prime minister Scott Morrison announced further restrictions on Sunday, including limiting public gatherings to two people. Follow all the latest Covid-19 updates [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/isSr2C | 23:48 |
| balaa[m] | I'm not connected to irc; I'm run my own matrix home server | 23:49 |
| IronY | balaa[m]: Ur connected to irc | 23:50 |
| IronY | ur just doing it in a very indirect overcomplicated way | 23:50 |
| balaa[m] | I'm connected through the matrix.org irc bridge (I think) | 23:50 |
| Scarecr0w | ..through matrix, everyone keeps talking about Matrix, Could i ask for a link, all I know is mathematical matrix. lol | 23:50 |
| IronY | Not much to think about, this is an irc channel | 23:50 |
| IronY | ur on it | 23:50 |
| IronY | thus ur connected to irc :P | 23:50 |
| balaa[m] | I'm not | 23:51 |
| IronY | *sigh* | 23:51 |
| balaa[m] | I'm only connected to my homeserver | 23:51 |
| balaa[m] | * I'm only connected to my home server | 23:51 |
| danielp3344 | <Scarecr0w "..through matrix, everyone keeps"> matrix.org | 23:51 |
| Scarecr0w | danielp3344: Thanks kind sir. | 23:51 |
| danielp3344 | it's like IRC, but better | 23:51 |
| IronY | nope | 23:51 |
| balaa[m] | its like irc 2.0 | 23:51 |
| danielp3344 | to get you started, riot.im is a web based client | 23:51 |
| IronY | it is irc for people who figured out irc 3 weeks ago | 23:51 |
| pepee | https://www.corriere.it/politica/20_marzo_26/the-real-death-toll-for-covid-19-is-at-least-4-times-the-official-numbers-b5af0edc-6eeb-11ea-925b-a0c3cdbe1130.shtml | 23:51 |
| pepee | %title https://www.corriere.it/politica/20_marzo_26/the-real-death-toll-for-covid-19-is-at-least-4-times-the-official-numbers-b5af0edc-6eeb-11ea-925b-a0c3cdbe1130.shtml | 23:52 |
| Brainstorm | pepee: From www.corriere.it: «The real death toll for Covid-19 is at least 4 times the official numbers» - Corriere.it | 23:52 |
| danielp3344 | IronY: that might be true | 23:52 |
| balaa[m] | im developing a cosumer product based on matrix | 23:52 |
| danielp3344 | but it's at least federated | 23:52 |
| IronY | folks, I am more anonymous on this network then u are | 23:52 |
| balaa[m] | there will be non-technical people flooding irc channels soon :) | 23:52 |
| IronY | if you look at ur host name, u will notice you have a GUID | 23:52 |
| balaa[m] | sorry | 23:52 |
| danielp3344 | IronY: BS | 23:52 |
| danielp3344 | IronY: yeah, but it's from the irc bridge | 23:52 |
| balaa[m] | what is my hostname? IronY | 23:53 |
| IronY | -[danielp3344] (danielp334@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ugdbpxnzkwivrboo): @danielp3344:matrix.org | 23:53 |
| danielp3344 | which might lead you to the homeserver | 23:53 |
| IronY | the bridge tracks u, its freenode policy | 23:53 |
| danielp3344 | although yeah, usernames get used in that field anyway | 23:53 |
| balaa[m] | it has to,yea | 23:53 |
| IronY | x-ugdbpxnzkwivrboo is ur tracking token | 23:53 |
| balaa[m] | whats mine IronY | 23:53 |
| IronY | balaa[m]: ./whois yourself | 23:53 |
| danielp3344 | IronY: it's just from the bridge, you could just as easily use my username on matrix lol | 23:54 |
| IronY | THe only thing worse than no privacy is people who think they have privacy when they dont and are under a false sense of security | 23:54 |
| balaa[m] | unknown command | 23:54 |
| danielp3344 | IronY: this my 'public' persona as it were | 23:54 |
| balaa[m] | im on riot desktop lol | 23:54 |
| Scarecr0w | Without . | 23:54 |
| LjL | i'm seeing nothing about covid-19 in my backscroll aside from what my apparently terrible bot posts, and pepee's excruciating truths | 23:54 |
| danielp3344 | I do still use tor | 23:54 |
| LjL | am i in the wrong channel? | 23:54 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 21:52 UTC: /u/SuitingUncle620: LIVE: Press Briefing with Coronavirus Task Force. https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1244379758374182912 [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/Q0GKYB | 23:54 |
| IronY | LjL: Todays topic, covid19 and how it suddenly made everyone aware of IRC and experts at it | 23:55 |
| danielp3344 | but if I wanted to be anonymous I'd have to make a new identity and talk about myself less | 23:55 |
| aradesh | https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8163945/Royal-footman-regular-contact-Queen-tests-positive-coronavirus.html | 23:55 |
| aradesh | D: | 23:55 |
| balaa[m] | lol | 23:55 |
| pepee | LjL, welcome to Freenode, where any channels other than those of F/OSS projects will be taken as "social channels" | 23:55 |
| balaa[m] | somebody on irc whois me pls :) | 23:55 |
| LjL | pepee, oh i've been here for a while too | 23:56 |
| Scarecr0w | balaa[m]: https://i.imgur.com/uY5tHaf.png There u go, bud | 23:56 |
| pepee | and even those will be deflected :P | 23:57 |
| IronY | On a technical and covid 19 related question, is anyone participating in any of the covid19 hackathons? | 23:57 |
| pepee | LjL, channel needs moderation | 23:57 |
| LjL | pepee, i couldn't read that article because corriere is annoying, but i read a something in english that elaborated upon it... unfortunately i'm afraid it's true all over the place | 23:57 |
| Scarecr0w | IronY: Hackathons? Link please. | 23:57 |
| IronY | sec | 23:57 |
| danielp3344 | that makes things no fun | 23:57 |
| IronY | one example: https://covid-global-hackathon.devpost.com/ | 23:58 |
| IronY | I know there are a few going | 23:58 |
| pepee | LjL, yeah, there was a shorter post about it. not sure if I linked to it here or if I got it from this channel... | 23:58 |
| MetaNova | Scarecr0w: also https://developers.slashdot.org/story/20/03/28/0412201/how-devs-can-help-beat-the-covid-19-pandemic | 23:58 |
| IronY | ^ | 23:58 |
| pepee | LjL, disable JS, works pretty well | 23:58 |
| MetaNova | which mentions/links to several | 23:58 |
| IronY | thats the original article I read , thanks MetaNova | 23:58 |
| MetaNova | IronY: np | 23:58 |
| MetaNova | (read it on my lunch break today) | 23:58 |
| LjL | pepee, well the english article made things plenty clear | 23:58 |
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