| LjL | hmmm | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 21:58 UTC: /u/SuitingUncle620: LIVE: Press Briefing with Coronavirus Task Force. [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/q3OzOt | 00:01 |
| LjL | i'd normally say the chance is higher, but right now i have no idea | 00:01 |
| IronY | LjL: yeal likewise | 00:01 |
| IronY | I have only had to dispute 1 other charge in my 10 years of using paypal | 00:01 |
| IronY | so maybe I got that going for me | 00:01 |
| LjL | IronY, even Amazon lost my package. never happened before | 00:05 |
| IronY | LjL: I somehow managed to get the last chest freezer in ottawa, it is being delivered tomorrow, I went into that expecting to lose the money or it to just never happen | 00:05 |
| IronY | they called today 'Umm do you want that delivered still due to this covid stuff' | 00:05 |
| Brainstorm | πΈ World: +511 cases (now 719543), +9 deaths (now 33908) πΈ US: +511 cases (now 140256), +9 deaths (now 2457) πΉ Alabama, US: +53 cases (now 820), +5 deaths (now 9) πΉ Alaska, US: +17 cases (now 102) πΉ Angola: +2 cases (now 7), +2 deaths (now 2) πΉ Arkansas, US: +12 cases (now 421) πΉ Aruba: +4 cases (now 50) πΉ Austria: +63 cases (now 8774) [... want %more?] | 00:06 |
| IronY | I am like 'well yes of course I want a freezer that helps me stay inside, but please, just leave it on the step' | 00:06 |
| IronY | 90$ delivery fee, 10 mins away, dont even have to come inside | 00:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 22:01 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Field hospital set up inside Central Park, Moscow tightens coronavirus rules [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/vg1XLV | 00:07 |
| LjL | hmm | 00:07 |
| LjL | i wanted to buy a small fridge from amazon at one point, one of the few "big" appliances they had on prime | 00:07 |
| balaa[m] | thank you Scarecr0w | 00:07 |
| LjL | but then i didn't. but it was just a fridge, with a tiny pseudo-freezer drawer | 00:07 |
| balaa[m] | nice that noteworthy doesn't leak any information about its users (unlike irc) | 00:08 |
| IronY | We never bothred with a chest freezer before because there is only two of us | 00:08 |
| IronY | but it seems like a good idea now... | 00:08 |
| adventurer | https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1244379758374182912?s=20 | 00:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 22:11 UTC: /u/slakmehl: Testing in the US appears to have plateaued at 100k tests/day. Capacity is roughly 10x higher than even two weeks ago, but also far from what it would need to be to support contact tracing that will eventually be needed to safely re-open the economy. [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/T8WBDd | 00:13 |
| pwr22 | Trump is currently accusing new york hospitals of doing something nefarious with masks | 00:15 |
| pwr22 | Because they're demand has increased π€¦ββοΈ | 00:15 |
| Albright | So this quarantine/no job thing is inducing experiments in non-shaving | 00:16 |
| Albright | But sadly I'm no better at growing a MANLY BEARD than I was at age 16. | 00:16 |
| IronY | Albright: if u do someone manage to have N95 masks | 00:17 |
| IronY | do me a favor and shave before using it | 00:17 |
| Albright | IronY: I'll keep that in mind but it's not looking like things are gonna go that far. | 00:18 |
| IronY | what do u mean by 'not gonna go that far' | 00:18 |
| LjL | pwr22, something nefarious like replacing them when they say they should be replaced? | 00:18 |
| Albright | I mean I don't think I'm gonna need to wear an N95 mask. | 00:18 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 22:15 UTC: /u/slakmehl: Rebecca Ballhaus su Twitter: "Trump extends social distancing guidelines to April 30." β from r/WorldNews at 22:15: Netherlands recalls 600,000 face masks from China due to low quality β https://is.gd/Gk6eFd | 00:19 |
| IronY | Albright: It has already surpassed that far | 00:19 |
| IronY | %data world | 00:20 |
| Brainstorm | IronY: In all areas, World, there are 719859 cases, 33911 deaths (4.7% of cases), 150917 recoveries as of March 29, 22:13Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=World for time series data. | 00:20 |
| IronY | The only reason the gov is not asking everyone to go outside with masks on, is because there are no masks, and there are so little masks, they would rather you donate them to hospitals and risk infection yourself | 00:21 |
| Biep[m] | <IronY "ELIZA?"> We are discussing *you* - not *me*. | 00:22 |
| IronY | Biep[m]: Are you responding to something i asked 48 hours ago | 00:23 |
| IronY | because I am not sure on the context | 00:23 |
| IronY | I do know we were not discussing me though because that was a random question based on two other peoples conversation | 00:23 |
| pwr22 | <LjL "pwr22, something nefarious like "> He mentioned them going out the back door | 00:23 |
| Biep[m] | True - but then ELIZA is a very old program.. | 00:24 |
| Biep[m] | If you don't recognise the quote, you are too young. | 00:24 |
| LjL | pwr22, i guess i can't rule out anything, but i also have no reason to think NY is doing anything different with their masks than i thought they were doing before knowing this :P | 00:24 |
| Biep[m] | * True - but then [ELIZA](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA) is a very old program.. | 00:25 |
| IronY | Biep[m]: Normally at 35 I would take offense to the two young compliment, today how ever, that is best thing anyone can tell me lol | 00:25 |
| IronY | comment* | 00:25 |
| LjL | python476, this looks good, not sure if he'll ship to france, but i certainly wouldn't get it due to the eww french keyboard https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PSION-Series-5mx-PDA-16MB-boxed-manuals-case-stylus-FRENCH-version-/153881026720 | 00:29 |
| mefistofeles | for web scrappers around, what would be the best way for gettning the data in something as awful as this https://infogram.com/datosgenerales-1h7z2l9yq50l2ow any ideas? | 00:30 |
| python476 | LjL: when suddenly a palm | 00:30 |
| oriba | mefistofeles: you want to scrape on your own? Aren't you a JHU worshipper? | 00:31 |
| LjL | python476, eww palm | 00:31 |
| mefistofeles | oriba: wtf does that even mean? | 00:31 |
| oriba | ?? | 00:31 |
| mefistofeles | also, this is not data that's in JHU | 00:31 |
| oriba | hehe | 00:31 |
| oriba | how would you call it? | 00:31 |
| Albright | mefistofeles: Gross, it's an SVG. I guess you could render it and then run the bitmap through an OCR program⦠| 00:32 |
| mefistofeles | Albright: helll... | 00:32 |
| python476 | Albright: finally someone who gets me | 00:32 |
| mefistofeles | Albright: how do you know it's svg? btw | 00:33 |
| python476 | he peeked under | 00:33 |
| Albright | Wait. maybe it's not. | 00:33 |
| Albright | Oh, okay. The *icons* are SVGs. I guess I inspected the wrong thing. | 00:34 |
| Albright | Oh, wow, a <font> tag. That takes me back. | 00:34 |
| aradesh | boris johnson has so much on his plate. dealing with coronavirus, dealing with brexit, and having coronavirus himself! https://i.redd.it/ytnwasl8e5641.jpg | 00:35 |
| pwr22 | Trump losing it at journalists is highly entertaining | 00:35 |
| oriba | mefistofeles: it looks rather that page scrapes the viewer... | 00:35 |
| explore | perhaps this was already shared by someone, my bad if that's the case, but perhaps an interesting data point from Czech Republic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZtEX2-n2Hc&feature=youtu.be | 00:35 |
| pwr22 | <aradesh "boris johnson has so much on his"> I don't really get that image? | 00:35 |
| aradesh | i just found it and thought it was funny | 00:35 |
| LjL | opinions on these numbers? https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections | 00:35 |
| Brainstorm | πΈ World: +1050 cases (now 720593), +3 deaths (now 33911) πΈ US: +734 cases (now 140990) πΈ Florida, US: +704 cases (now 4950) πΉ Alabama, US: +53 cases (now 820), +5 deaths (now 9) πΉ Alaska, US: +17 cases (now 102) πΉ Angola: +2 cases (now 7), +2 deaths (now 2) πΉ Arkansas, US: +12 cases (now 421) πΉ Aruba: +4 cases (now 50) [... want %more?] | 00:36 |
| aradesh | that's a parody cartoon of him supporting brexit | 00:36 |
| aradesh | referencing a speech by goebbels | 00:36 |
| Albright | Oh, yes, BJ is literally a nazi and so is Trump but anyway | 00:37 |
| Albright | mefistofeles: Okay, it looks like that page is scrapable, but still built by JS, so you'd still have to render the page to the extent the JS executes and builds the DOM. | 00:37 |
| aradesh | i found it because i was googling the phrase "wollt ihr den totalen..." and it auto suggested "totalen brexit" | 00:37 |
| aradesh | Albright: yeah i know they're not :P | 00:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 22:29 UTC: Coronavirus Australia update live: curbs on public gatherings take effect β latest news: Australian prime minister Scott Morrison announced further restrictions on Sunday, including limiting public gatherings to two people. Follow all the latest Covid-19 updates [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/isSr2C | 00:37 |
| explore | after watching the video mentioned (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZtEX2-n2Hc&feature=youtu.be) i think i understood why in Japan medical practitioners were advised to keep wearing the masks after their effectiveness has expired (for a while Japan was running really low on masks) | 00:38 |
| LjL | remember kids: only Hitler is literally Hitler | 00:39 |
| pwr22 | Adolf Hitler thanked me for CovBot earlier | 00:39 |
| pwr22 | I have mixed feelings | 00:40 |
| pwr22 | At least, that was the name they were going by | 00:40 |
| LjL | charming | 00:40 |
| aradesh | our favourite austrian painter. | 00:40 |
| python476 | man i feel like trading | 00:42 |
| LjL | my relatives living in suburbs of milan have already 3 positive people/families in their building | 00:42 |
| python476 | "I so should have stocked things and cleaned more and made masks and .." | 00:42 |
| aradesh | x.x | 00:42 |
| mefistofeles | Albright: oh, any quick idea on how to do that? | 00:43 |
| aradesh | guy i've been watching coronavirus videos of on youtube stocked up 1 month of food supply in february when it was first kicking off, and he thought he was super clever... but now he realises he needed more | 00:43 |
| ArthurStrong | ./quit | 00:43 |
| ArthurStrong | ouch sorry | 00:43 |
| LjL | python476, what do you offer for one sealed ffp2 | 00:43 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 22:38 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Trump accuses hospitals of hoarding ventilators, field hospital set up inside Central Park β from r/WorldNews at 22:38: EU sticks to carbon reporting deadlines, rejects industry calls for coronavirus delay β https://is.gd/vg1XLV | 00:43 |
| python476 | LjL: my appreciation | 00:44 |
| aradesh | best get to bed, night guys | 00:44 |
| LjL | night aradesh | 00:44 |
| python476 | night aradesh | 00:44 |
| aradesh | o/ | 00:44 |
| LjL | python476, well i'd probably take that if i had at least a second ffp2 mask | 00:44 |
| Albright | mefistofeles: Are you familiar with the term "headless browser?" It's basically a web browser which doesn't show a GUI but renders the page only in memory and lets you interact with it programmatically. | 00:45 |
| Albright | There are a few of them you'll find if you search the term but I'm not familiar enough with them to recommend one. I think the standard version of Firefox supports it but I'm not sure how you'd "connect" with it to do it. | 00:46 |
| mefistofeles | Albright: ok, I can get around the concept, apparently Selenium in the python acosystem does that | 00:46 |
| mefistofeles | *ecosystem | 00:46 |
| Albright | Oh yeah, some of those automated tester doodads do that, yes. | 00:46 |
| python476 | https://covidly.com/ jic | 00:48 |
| python476 | there was a call to join farmers | 00:49 |
| python476 | I wanted to but now I feel too weak | 00:49 |
| python476 | I feel like a hypocrite :D | 00:49 |
| Albright | mefistofeles: Do you really need to scrape this particular source? | 00:50 |
| Albright | The simpler ones like the bots use won't work for you? | 00:51 |
| mefistofeles | Albright: I need this, sadly | 00:52 |
| mefistofeles | for the testing data | 00:52 |
| Albright | https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox/Headless_mode | 00:53 |
| Albright | This looks cool. I didn't realize FF had this built in the whole time. | 00:54 |
| mefistofeles | Albright: I think selenium uses that, tbh | 00:54 |
| mefistofeles | but yeah, pretty cool | 00:54 |
| mefistofeles | have to get some sleep now, thanks for the info Albright | 00:54 |
| Timvde | Lol, a friend complained to me that the police is giving people actual fines for not respecting the rules | 00:55 |
| Timvde | She didn't like my response :D | 00:55 |
| LjL | Timvde, honestly it's sad to think of people fined for what should be their most basic freedoms | 00:56 |
| LjL | it's necessary, but extremely ugly | 00:56 |
| Timvde | Yes, I agree with that | 00:56 |
| pwr22 | Timvde which country? | 00:57 |
| Timvde | Belgium | 00:57 |
| Albright | Good politicians never let a crisis go to waste. | 00:57 |
| Timvde | But honestly, we really need to just not mess around for now | 00:57 |
| Timvde | They don't _want_ to fine people, but people just don't want to listen either | 00:57 |
| LjL | Timvde, there've been police fining people for some things that are really allowed, though (and surely also the opposite) | 00:59 |
| LjL | Timvde, i won't really start thinking most police are sensible people filled with common sense when i never thought it before :P | 00:59 |
| Timvde | LjL: Yea, that's of course not great | 01:00 |
| Timvde | And really, communication could've been a lot better | 01:00 |
| unl0ckd | <LjL "opinions on these numbers? https"> The director of data science where I work passed this out as a reference. I trust her to know the best source(s) for information, so I've been referencing this one almost exclusively. The data seems to lag a couple of days behind, but seems to be accurate from what I can tell... | 01:00 |
| oriba | mefistofeles: You could parse it with python directly... its json inside the webpage | 01:01 |
| oriba | but it's ugly | 01:01 |
| oriba | some regexp stuff I think | 01:01 |
| LjL | unl0ckd, do you know what the model's assumptions are? some kind of complete lockdown i figure | 01:02 |
| LjL | Timvde, communication has been thoroughly bad from all the institutions i know of | 01:02 |
| unl0ckd | LjL: I don't, unfortunately. I think the assumption is a shelter-in-place. The text "assume the continuation of strong social distancing measures and other protective measures." isn't too clear. My hope is that the assumption is based on the weak guidance we've been given in the states vs the more stringent guidance provided by China. | 01:04 |
| LjL | unl0ckd, although the data are sort of optimistic for me... a peak of 2000ish deaths a day, grim as they seem, that's about twice the amount of deaths italy has now per day. and that's italy, 1/6 the amount of people as the US | 01:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 23:05 UTC: Coronavirus Australia update live: Tasmania records its first Covid-19 death β latest news: Australian prime minister Scott Morrison announced further restrictions on Sunday, including limiting public gatherings to two people. Follow all the latest Covid-19 updates [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/isSr2C | 01:08 |
| IronY | starting to wonder if I should have any respect for my local elderly | 01:12 |
| IronY | just left the house for the first time in 5 days to go to the store for 3 seconds | 01:12 |
| IronY | bandana around mouth/nose | 01:13 |
| IronY | saftey glasses | 01:13 |
| python476 | damn | 01:13 |
| IronY | gardening gloves | 01:13 |
| IronY | zero face touch | 01:13 |
| IronY | in the store | 01:13 |
| IronY | 70 year old walks in | 01:13 |
| python476 | https://youtu.be/fzGrh2io9Ds?t=485 this is what I had in mind | 01:13 |
| IronY | no protection | 01:13 |
| IronY | 'Do you guys still sell lottery tickets" | 01:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 23:09 UTC: /u/SuitingUncle620: Trump: Coronavirus 'Peak Death Rate' To Hit In Two Weeks. β from r/WorldNews at 23:09: Bolsonaro threatens to sack health minister over coronavirus criticism | World news β https://is.gd/LJp3kz | 01:14 |
| python476 | IronY: I guess his life is a lottery now | 01:15 |
| LjL | python476, i'm not quite prepared to believe those lights are safe | 01:15 |
| LjL | even after reading about it a bit last night | 01:15 |
| LjL | to be fair, neither is sars-cov-2-filled air | 01:15 |
| ketas | uv lamps' | 01:16 |
| ketas | ? | 01:16 |
| python476 | yeah | 01:17 |
| python476 | LjL: apparently the lights he used are not even UVA (based on comments) | 01:17 |
| LjL | python476, wasn't it the far UVC that was safe? | 01:18 |
| LjL | "safe" | 01:18 |
| python476 | supposedly safe yes | 01:18 |
| python476 | based on myspace comments | 01:18 |
| python476 | jk | 01:18 |
| ketas | go outside when it runs | 01:19 |
| python476 | it's based on some ~medical room cleaning devices sold so maybe it's not a scam | 01:19 |
| python476 | then I saw far uvc leds on aliexpress.. but there's no guarantee these are on specs | 01:19 |
| LjL | i did see papers | 01:19 |
| python476 | I'd love to have a peak in company and ministers brainstorm rooms | 01:20 |
| LjL | python476, the light used in the first paper i find was 222nm while the amazon lights are 395nm | 01:21 |
| LjL | now i'm not much of an expert in light frequencies but those look different | 01:21 |
| ketas | i bet you can still get mercury tubes too | 01:22 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 23:22 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Trump accuses hospitals of hoarding ventilators, field hospital set up inside Central Park β from r/WorldNews at 23:22: Bolsonaro threatens to sack health minister over coronavirus criticism | World news β https://is.gd/vg1XLV | 01:26 |
| python476 | 275nm https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000174320639.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.5d865ca30NtRyo&algo_pvid=63d6c901-21d6-43f6-8094-962c0fa6e751&algo_expid=63d6c901-21d6-43f6-8094-962c0fa6e751-28&btsid=0b0a22a415855243494982327e2e64&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_ | 01:27 |
| python476 | closer | 01:27 |
| IronY | Please don't trust your health to AliExpress electronics | 01:28 |
| IronY | thats just crazy talk rightthere | 01:28 |
| berndj | IronY, s/he's playing the lottery, c'mon | 01:28 |
| python476 | IronY: i know | 01:29 |
| IronY | berndj: No joke man, just walked into a small space in a pandemic on the off chance maybe they could get a lottery ticket | 01:29 |
| berndj | oh, already said. i think many old people take the attitude of "my life's near its end now anyway, i'm not gonna preserve myself to be put into a box squeaky clean and neat, i'm gonna live" | 01:29 |
| IronY | berndj: so why the need to win the lottery ll | 01:29 |
| ketas | hahaha | 01:29 |
| ketas | is the uv even worth using in home? | 01:30 |
| euod[m] | please donβt fuck with UV. | 01:30 |
| LjL | β | 01:30 |
| IronY | uv lights are a great thing to get right now how ever if u can | 01:30 |
| IronY | for the intended purpose, of growing crops indoors | 01:31 |
| euod[m] | UV-C burns your retinas, produces ozone, and burns your skin so severely it smells like bacon. | 01:31 |
| ketas | works, yes, keep your eyes and skin out | 01:31 |
| euod[m] | do not fuck with UV-C. | 01:31 |
| python476 | euod[m]: what about far uvc | 01:31 |
| python476 | can you confirm it's harmless ? | 01:31 |
| IronY | euod[m]: I know about 100 pot growers that would question ur logic | 01:31 |
| ketas | and things could get that damaged | 01:32 |
| nb | they are not essential businesses | 01:32 |
| IronY | nb: I think the fact the store refused to sell him it may be the case, but lemme checkj | 01:32 |
| euod[m] | python476: I can confirm nothing about the safety of UV-C devices, especially those which come from china. thereβs a lot of things on aliexpress which are cancerous, dangerous, and even fucking radioactive. | 01:32 |
| IronY | https://globalnews.ca/news/6693048/coronavirus-olg-prize-centre/ | 01:32 |
| ketas | euod[m]: mmm... smells like chicken! | 01:32 |
| fester | the goverment needs your money play the lotteries | 01:33 |
| ketas | euod[m]: do they sell small rtgs? | 01:33 |
| euod[m] | ketas: no, smells like ozone and bacon. | 01:33 |
| ketas | :) | 01:33 |
| euod[m] | ketas: no, but thereβs βionizing health pensβ which emit a detectable amount of beta radiation. stay well the fuck clear. | 01:34 |
| euod[m] | who knows what they are. | 01:34 |
| python476 | euod[m]: even the plastic package from china might be cancerous | 01:34 |
| IronY | euod[m]: I agree u should not fuck with UV, but ur kinda going off the deep end | 01:34 |
| euod[m] | python476: heh a lot of the time itβs filled with lead actually. recycled car battery plastic is cheap. | 01:34 |
| IronY | especially since the link he posted has 3 5w leds | 01:34 |
| IronY | lol | 01:34 |
| python476 | euod[m]: noice | 01:34 |
| python476 | https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-21058-w <= far uvc for airborne flu and more | 01:35 |
| python476 | (2018) | 01:35 |
| ketas | yes don't fuck with uv | 01:35 |
| euod[m] | IronY: thereβs people buying bare UVC bulbs with batteries attached from amazon. just from the reviews thereβs people who have burned their retinas with them. | 01:35 |
| ketas | fuck with people | 01:35 |
| IronY | euod[m]: these are the same people who need warnings not to put plastic bags over their heads | 01:35 |
| IronY | euod[m]: or for example, when I bought a staple gun, and the staple gun packaging told me not to aim it at a literal infant | 01:35 |
| Brainstorm | πΈ World: +834 cases (now 721427), +33 deaths (now 33944), +21 recoveries (now 150938) πΈ US: +569 cases (now 141559), +11 deaths (now 2468) πΉ Alabama, US: +53 cases (now 820), +5 deaths (now 9) πΉ Alaska, US: +17 cases (now 102) πΉ Angola: +2 cases (now 7), +2 deaths (now 2) πΉ Argentina: +75 cases (now 820), +1 deaths (now 20), +19 recoveries (now 91) [... want %more?] | 01:36 |
| ketas | IronY: did anyone try? | 01:36 |
| euod[m] | IronY: which unfortunately is most of the US population. if thereβs hundreds of people who died drinking methanol to βcureβ coronavirus, thereβs going to be deaths and serious injuries from UVC. | 01:36 |
| python476 | I thought methanol binge was in iran | 01:36 |
| ketas | well it cured it | 01:36 |
| euod[m] | it was. | 01:36 |
| ketas | :) | 01:37 |
| IronY | euod[m]: Oh I agree, but that is not uvs problem, that is their problem, those people were going to die this year doing something dumb regardless | 01:37 |
| eaxomar | my bicycle warns me in big scary letters 'not to operate the machinery before you have read and thoroughly understood the owner's manual' | 01:37 |
| eaxomar | it's a bicycle | 01:37 |
| ketas | too bad the life also went with it | 01:37 |
| euod[m] | IronY: my warning is that just because you can buy something something make it safe. especially stuff coming from china. | 01:37 |
| euod[m] | doesnβt make it safe. | 01:37 |
| IronY | euod[m]: Ur warning was "Don't buy that, it will give you cancer and is probably radioactive' | 01:37 |
| python476 | eaxomar: Bird scooters could have that too | 01:37 |
| python476 | people don't know how to swerve them | 01:37 |
| ketas | eaxomar: did you also get manual how to operate your legs? | 01:38 |
| euod[m] | IronY: yeah thatβs about right. | 01:38 |
| eaxomar | a human body man page could be ni*ce | 01:38 |
| eaxomar | might learn some new tricks | 01:38 |
| python476 | man man | 01:38 |
| eaxomar | heh | 01:38 |
| ketas | or was it trial and error in early years | 01:38 |
| IronY | if ur someone who wears baby oil to tan, and stares at the sun, darwinism is about to catch up with u | 01:38 |
| python476 | IronY: to be fair, highly physics-related warnings are intangible for people | 01:39 |
| python476 | we need rooms to electrify people a bit | 01:39 |
| python476 | so they know | 01:39 |
| IronY | python476: I do know my country screens for radiactivity on imports | 01:39 |
| IronY | lol | 01:39 |
| python476 | I propose myself as operator ! | 01:39 |
| ketas | you're good finger operator right now | 01:40 |
| python476 | the advantage of confinement is that when your torrent download is slow enough to estimate arrival in 28 days, you don't feel pressed.. you know you have time | 01:41 |
| berndj | eaxomar, maybe in the coming economic reset we also get to rid of anti-idiots warning labels | 01:41 |
| ketas | system works well | 01:41 |
| berndj | make darwin great again | 01:41 |
| python476 | berndj: morgue are already at capacity | 01:41 |
| IronY | i will see if I have that staple gun warning | 01:41 |
| IronY | I laughed for hours on that | 01:41 |
| IronY | it is a picture of a stick figure man aiming a staple gun at a stick figure infact with a crossed circle around it | 01:41 |
| eaxomar | i think even medium term promoting a modicum of personal responsibility would prevent death and injury | 01:41 |
| IronY | I assume someone had to shoot a baby with a staple gun to justify the printing of that lable | 01:42 |
| python476 | berndj: are you trying to create a morgue stimulus ? #insidergravin | 01:42 |
| ketas | please don't use your child as shooting target | 01:42 |
| berndj | python476, nah, don't need to, life insurance companies are already a good bet | 01:42 |
| ketas | #insidegrave? | 01:42 |
| python476 | more like 'dont play scarey dadey with gun' | 01:42 |
| IronY | lool | 01:42 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 23:34 UTC: Coronavirus live news: US deaths could reach 200,000 as UK warned of six-month lockdown: US expert Dr Anthony Fauci makes grim prediction; Moscow announces lockdown of 12m people; Syria records first death. Follow the latest updates [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/M8cBsP | 01:44 |
| LjL | python476, i think i should know my UV light might not be as safe as implied when it tells me "It could help you find the hidden stains", with this particular grammar | 01:45 |
| IronY | u really have to g | 01:46 |
| IronY | to go out of ur way to order a actual uv light that will sanitize | 01:47 |
| IronY | ur mostly ordering scam flash lights from china at this point | 01:47 |
| python476 | I see wish to know how to make LEDs | 01:47 |
| IronY | python476: unless you see some huge step up converter, assume anything advertised 'USB Powered' is not strong enough | 01:49 |
| python476 | I only want to sanitize a few cm^2 | 01:50 |
| IronY | that makes no difference | 01:50 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 23:47 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Trump accuses hospitals of hoarding ventilators, field hospital set up inside Central Park [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/vg1XLV | 01:50 |
| IronY | ur not doing that with 5v < 1amp | 01:50 |
| jiffe | as long as its not PC usb powered which is limited, and the beam is focused it is probably fine | 01:51 |
| IronY | jiffe: it is | 01:51 |
| LjL | what about 1.5V | 01:51 |
| LjL | because my UV torch takes just one AA ;( | 01:51 |
| IronY | LjL: it probably has a step up converter in it | 01:51 |
| IronY | the one he posted did not look like it did | 01:51 |
| LjL | but it's just a tiny thing. and also i bought it before realizing, to put it like euod[m] said, that just because i can buy it on Prime doesn't necessarily mean it's safe | 01:52 |
| IronY | my LED bike light has a 5000ma battery, lasts 4 hours, and is 100% made as a heatsync | 01:52 |
| IronY | and thats just a bright light | 01:52 |
| IronY | my LED grow lamp has a huge step up converter, is powered by 120v AC, and needs passive cooling | 01:53 |
| IronY | and it is only good enough for a m2 if that | 01:53 |
| IronY | sorry active cooling* | 01:53 |
| LjL | i find it hard to reconcile that with safety... but i guess i don't really understand which UV wavelength are immediately dangerous and which ones are more like being outside in the sun. | 01:54 |
| LjL | (which is why honestly i'm not even touching my tiny torch anymore) | 01:55 |
| IronY | LjL: We have been using tanning beds for over a decade now | 01:55 |
| IronY | I would take the scariest argument made about uv light, and the least scary argument made about uv light, and rest somewhere in the middle | 01:56 |
| LjL | ... or maybe not all wavelengths are the same? | 01:56 |
| LjL | "UV" is technically "everything above violet". that covers a lot. | 01:56 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 23:52 UTC: Coronavirus Australia update live: Tasmania records its first Covid-19 death β latest news: Australian prime minister Scott Morrison announced further restrictions on Sunday, including limiting public gatherings to two people. Follow all the latest Covid-19 updates [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/isSr2C | 01:56 |
| IronY | as for the blindness thing though | 01:56 |
| IronY | for that to happen, someone had to stare into that light | 01:56 |
| IronY | lets not blame that on the light ;) | 01:56 |
| Hoogvlieger | Trump just acted like hospital workers are stealing masks, saying itβs why they donβt have enough: βWhere are the masks going? Are they going out the back door?β Americans are dying. We donβt have time for nonsense. Stop lying and get them their damn masks. Americans are dying. | 01:57 |
| IronY | Hoogvlieger: they are | 01:57 |
| IronY | I have first person proof on that one (not ny, but another place) | 01:57 |
| IronY | doctors in canada also started perscribing themselves and friends and family members the malaria drug to the poitn that within a day the college of doctors put an immediate ban on it | 01:58 |
| python476 | IronY: recently ? | 01:58 |
| LjL | IronY, you could quickly get blind by staring into many lights for even a very short period of time, if your pupils didn't immediately narrow upon seeing it | 01:58 |
| IronY | python476: yes | 01:58 |
| LjL | something which they won't do with UV | 01:58 |
| python476 | I knew nurses did at first | 01:58 |
| IronY | Doctors and health care workers are people to, they are also scared | 01:58 |
| python476 | IronY: weird... | 01:58 |
| IronY | they also want to protect their loved ones | 01:58 |
| python476 | IronY: sure but they can see where priorities are now (unlike early days) | 01:59 |
| LjL | "I went skiing to La Villa in the Dolomites on March 7 and was told the Government was saying it was still safe. My thoughts were that it might be safer to be in the mountain air than on the Underground β plus I couldnβt get my money back on the holiday, so I decided to go." | 01:59 |
| IronY | python476: Lets just say I have a package in the mail containing some surgical masks, and some n95 masks | 01:59 |
| LjL | My thoughts are that you shouldn't be a journalist writing article on a paper that people read. | 01:59 |
| IronY | python476: and I have two family members who are nurses | 01:59 |
| fructose | https://i.imgur.com/7ErOYO5.png | 01:59 |
| python476 | IronY: if you're "redirecting" mask towards Nurses I guess that makes it a white steal | 02:00 |
| Hoogvlieger | While Americans are dying, this narcissistic maniac is focusing his day on his personal TV ratings and forcing others at his press conference to thank him for his "leadership." That is not leadership, that is your narcissistic mental illness on full display. | 02:00 |
| IronY | python476: they sent them to me before they thought this was serious | 02:00 |
| IronY | despire me telling them it was serious | 02:00 |
| IronY | weeks ago | 02:00 |
| IronY | despite* | 02:01 |
| python476 | oh they sent it to you ? | 02:01 |
| IronY | yes | 02:01 |
| LjL | then Trump is right | 02:01 |
| LjL | at least if this is happening en masse in NY | 02:01 |
| python476 | please dont put Trump and right on the same line | 02:01 |
| IronY | Hoogvlieger: This is dumb time for you to be making any sort of political bitching points, I implore you, if you feel you can make more a difference, do it, your stuck with what you got right now | 02:02 |
| python476 | unless you add wing | 02:02 |
| IronY | get this partisan shit out of your minds | 02:02 |
| python476 | Trump is right ... wing ! | 02:02 |
| IronY | do urselfs a favor | 02:02 |
| python476 | I know I was joking | 02:02 |
| IronY | Lol I know, the other guy though, he seems riled up | 02:02 |
| python476 | I think I'll reconsider buying a piece of forest on the country side | 02:02 |
| IronY | My fav is people spending their entire days complaining about the US president, despite never having step foot in the US | 02:03 |
| LjL | uhm | 02:03 |
| IronY | as in recently | 02:03 |
| fructose | IronY: Please stop regarding all criticism of a politician as partisan | 02:03 |
| LjL | β | 02:03 |
| IronY | fructose: It kinda is though when it is 'orange man bad' | 02:03 |
| python476 | β | 02:03 |
| IronY | again I am canadian | 02:03 |
| LjL | and also, i think i can probably criticize someone even *more*, if anything, if i didn't even have a chance to vote for or against them | 02:03 |
| fructose | IronY: It's definitely not | 02:04 |
| IronY | the leader of my country is a drama teacher | 02:04 |
| IronY | my health minister is an accountant | 02:04 |
| IronY | keep on complaining about your situation while ever leader in every country in the world is struggling with a unprecedented disaster | 02:04 |
| IronY | it will help! | 02:04 |
| eaxomar | irony complaining about the us president is 100% legitimate since US policy affects many countries more than their own elections | 02:04 |
| LjL | i think i'm not living up to what i decided in my head would be this channel's standard of "politics around COVID being allowed but without namecalling etc" | 02:04 |
| IronY | or refocus that energy on telling people not to go to the fucking store for lottery tickets | 02:04 |
| fester | the orange man doesnt care if everyone dies | 02:04 |
| IronY | which will ACTUALLy help | 02:04 |
| HammyCheesy | Problem is that not calling out Trump is actually at odds with actually helping. | 02:05 |
| IronY | fester: No president of the US right now would care, the country is founded on a free market, sadly the concepts of the country and the concepts of caring about poor people dying do not line up, this was never a secret | 02:05 |
| fester | he can do no wrong | 02:05 |
| LjL | today i've had too many things happen in this place... which means that, in reality, i've had very few things happening, but regardless, i should probably find a balance between banning everyone who gets vaguely cross with me, and letting just about anything go | 02:05 |
| fester | you dont agree your fired | 02:06 |
| Hoogvlieger | freedom of speach!! | 02:07 |
| eaxomar | but civility maybe? | 02:07 |
| LjL | freedom of spinach | 02:07 |
| fructose | IronY: Why don't you stop bullshitting | 02:07 |
| IronY | fructose: I will stop conversing with you on the subject because it seems your mind is made up and not even a pandemic can open you to any sort of two sided conversation | 02:07 |
| IronY | if hating someone makes this easier for u, keep on trucking! | 02:07 |
| LjL | look i'm just gonna op python476 who is probably drunk given how his typing has deteriorated since earlier today | 02:08 |
| LjL | and then you deal with it | 02:08 |
| fructose | IronY: Conversing is fine, but you're endlessly bullshitting | 02:08 |
| IronY | fructose: Your equating of 'not sharing your opinion' being equal to 'bullshitting' is ironically what ur stating, but yes, I will mute u to avoid being trolled further, have a nice day | 02:09 |
| fructose | IronY: More bullshit | 02:09 |
| LjL | enough | 02:09 |
| LjL | both of you | 02:09 |
| fructose | LjL: Police the bullshit better then | 02:09 |
| fester | mute fructose | 02:12 |
| LjL | 1) don't tell me what to do | 02:12 |
| LjL | 2) i did | 02:12 |
| fester | no more problems | 02:12 |
| LjL | 3) he actually has valuable stuff to say about COVID, but evidently too much about other things too | 02:12 |
| LjL | 4) i've had enough of today | 02:12 |
| IronY | how far into it are u | 02:13 |
| IronY | (the day that is) | 02:13 |
| python476 | I'm still a straight edge | 02:13 |
| LjL | three hours left roughly, if i go to bed at the same usual time, which would be stupid | 02:13 |
| LjL | but which i'll probably do anything, perhaps while still upset at something that happened on irc | 02:13 |
| LjL | which will make me sleep like crap | 02:14 |
| LjL | to be fair - if i weren't doing this here i'd probably find other reasons to be anxious and sleep like crap | 02:14 |
| LjL | but that doesn't really make anything any better | 02:14 |
| Hoogvlieger | Prayers for Musician John Prine he is hospitalized with corona virus and heβs in critical care. | 02:14 |
| IronY | LjL: Are you able to call like a telehealth line for a sleep aid prescription | 02:14 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 00:13 UTC: /u/SuitingUncle620: New Zealand COVID-19 Updates: β from r/WorldNews at 00:13: Estimates Show Wuhan Death Toll Far Higher Than Official Figure β https://is.gd/kdPl0W | 02:14 |
| LjL | IronY, i'm sure that would make me even more anxious ;( | 02:15 |
| IronY | :( | 02:15 |
| LjL | why instead... not have a channel where we can discuss this thing that scares us, but also not yell at (and/or past) one another | 02:15 |
| IronY | Yeah I wont touch politics with a 10 foot pole or a 6 meter distance anymore, but just so everyone is aware, not american, not for or against anyone, just call situations as I see them, so my apologies if it came off as anything other than that | 02:16 |
| python476 | "Belarus president refuses to cancel anything - and says vodka and saunas will ward off coronavirus" | 02:17 |
| python476 | I didn't know belarus had a strong comedy scene | 02:17 |
| IronY | Well, youll be having a good time until ur not at least in belarus | 02:18 |
| LjL | python476, they have that, and servitude | 02:18 |
| bigfluff | Here in the states we're hoping cannabis is the cure-all | 02:18 |
| python476 | often goes hand in hand | 02:18 |
| LjL | uhm, serfdom* | 02:18 |
| IronY | bigfluff: Canadians are right there with u on that one | 02:18 |
| python476 | bigfluff: honestly, non smoked CBD might actually help off | 02:18 |
| eaxomar | how? | 02:19 |
| eaxomar | for sleep? | 02:19 |
| LjL | i'll wait until it's no longer a fad to even read up on it | 02:19 |
| IronY | Having a mixed experience with pot right now, sometimes it helps me sleep, sometimes it amplifies anxiety | 02:19 |
| bigfluff | It varries for a lot of people strain-by-strain | 02:20 |
| IronY | oh for sure, I made sure to get some sativia this time | 02:20 |
| IronY | the indica was insta anxiety attack on the last batch | 02:20 |
| eaxomar | and people to people | 02:20 |
| python476 | eaxomar: CBD is antiinflammatory and also interact with lung cells | 02:20 |
| bigfluff | I started using it, actually per my boss' recommendation, to cope with anxiety | 02:20 |
| LjL | oh you mean for COVID in particular | 02:20 |
| bigfluff | Started off with sativa, learned that was a big mistake lol | 02:20 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 00:18 UTC: /u/SuitingUncle620: NZ COVID-19 Further Update: β from r/WorldNews at 00:18: Estimates Show Wuhan Death Toll Far Higher Than Official Figure β https://is.gd/FStGvC | 02:20 |
| IronY | bigfluff: I am wired a little different, uppers seem to be good for me, downers seem to be bad | 02:21 |
| IronY | for example, I did drugs for like 8 years in my twenties, tried coke twice, both times resulted in me in a bath tub rocking back and forth | 02:21 |
| bigfluff | IronY: yes, my wife says it's all about the same to her...my friend growing up was the same way | 02:21 |
| python476 | just for lulz, I did spill CBD oil on psoriasis patches | 02:29 |
| python476 | disappeared in 5 days | 02:29 |
| bin_bash | IronY: coke is an upper,,, | 02:29 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 00:18 UTC: Coronavirus live news: US deaths could reach 200,000 as UK warned of six-month lockdown: US expert Dr Anthony Fauci makes grim prediction; Moscow announces lockdown of 12m people; Syria records first death. Follow the latest updates [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/M8cBsP | 02:32 |
| LjL | python476, the oil? | 02:34 |
| ketas | now LjL needs go to be anxiously? | 02:36 |
| ketas | bed | 02:36 |
| ketas | :( | 02:36 |
| httpskuttitEzLFH | gn | 02:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 00:42 UTC: /u/SuitingUncle620: UPDATE: New York state coronavirus death toll reaches 1,000 as NYC reports 98 new deaths β from r/WorldNews at 00:42: Coronavirus: Singapore PM calls for end to US-China blame game, wants to see leadership from Trump administration β https://is.gd/NiU6Ts | 02:45 |
| oriba | just saw a tv-documentation on the corona virus... they mentioned the spanish flue... whch came from Cansas, USA, but was named Spanish Flue, because in Spain there was no censoreship and hence the media reported about it... | 02:48 |
| oriba | ...also interesting: one of the german immigrants to USA was a german guy | 02:48 |
| oriba | he died on the "spanish flue"... | 02:48 |
| oriba | his wife got money after his dead | 02:48 |
| oriba | she bought real estate was richt then | 02:49 |
| oriba | and this guy was ancestor of D. Trump, who ignored corona virus for too long | 02:49 |
| oriba | funny, somehow | 02:49 |
| python476 | LjL: yes, some 5% or 10% cbd oil | 02:51 |
| IronY | if cbd oil was the cure, Canada would have like 2 infections | 02:51 |
| IronY | %data canada | 02:51 |
| Brainstorm | IronY: In all areas, Canada, there are 6320 cases, 65 deaths (1.0% of cases), 573 recoveries as of March 30, 00:22Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Canada for time series data. | 02:51 |
| python476 | I made a little hole patch to only let oil on a small part of the psoriasis | 02:51 |
| python476 | but oil was more liquid than expected and it touched the whole surface.. | 02:51 |
| python476 | goodbye control | 02:52 |
| LjL | python476, my joke was whether it was the oil that went away after five days | 02:54 |
| python476 | ahhh | 02:55 |
| python476 | humor I see | 02:55 |
| LjL | python476, next time you need a hole patch for control *and* some olive oil or whatever resembles CBD oil | 02:55 |
| LjL | and to shuffle them at random | 02:55 |
| LjL | for blindness | 02:55 |
| python476 | i could also let one part dry | 02:55 |
| python476 | that's how french do studies | 02:55 |
| python476 | :cough: | 02:55 |
| IronY | and a bunch of sick people to try it on :/ | 02:56 |
| oriba | Antiviral substances in marine biomaterials: Marine biomaterials: Biomimetic and pharmacological potential of cultivated Aplysina aerophoba marine demosponge: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0928493119331996?via%3Dihub | 02:56 |
| LjL | python476, you coughed at me?! | 02:56 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 00:53 UTC: /u/SuitingUncle620: NEW: Japan will deny entry to people coming from the U.S., China, South Korea, and most of Europe - Kyodo β from r/WorldNews at 00:53: Coronavirus: Singapore PM calls for end to US-China blame game, wants to see leadership from Trump administration β https://is.gd/4Tn0M2 | 02:57 |
| fakeuser[m] | Swim is studying the effects of LSD on covid 19 anxiety. After just one dose subject is "giggly and no longer troubled about the pandemic". | 03:04 |
| LjL | i suspect that might not go for everybody | 03:04 |
| berndj | LjL, no inflection yet? | 03:19 |
| python476 | infection vs inflection | 03:19 |
| LjL | berndj, linear is better than exponential, i guess | 03:20 |
| berndj | how long has it been now? 3 weeks of lockdown? | 03:20 |
| LjL | lost count | 03:20 |
| LjL | it started in lombardy somewhere around 10 march | 03:20 |
| LjL | bit before, bit after, i don't know | 03:21 |
| LjL | it has come in rolling updates, like windows updates | 03:21 |
| berndj | to what degree are people respecting the rules? | 03:21 |
| LjL | oh, well, except that windows has actually stopped updates aside from security ones | 03:21 |
| AimHere | If you're making comparisons to Microsoft Windows, that bodes ill for it's efficacy against viruses | 03:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 01:09 UTC: Coronavirus Australia update live: Tasmania records its first Covid-19 death β latest news: Australian prime minister Scott Morrison announced further restrictions on Sunday, including limiting public gatherings to two people. Follow all the latest Covid-19 updates [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/isSr2C | 03:21 |
| LjL | berndj, i think it varies across the country. i have no real perception of it. when i went outside for a bit because i was just exploding inside, i saw some people, but very few compared to what you'd normally see, and they were nearly all wearing masks and walking swiftly | 03:22 |
| berndj | no groups? | 03:22 |
| LjL | on the other hand, there are these rumors in the south some... well, criminals, really, are planning to revolt or something | 03:22 |
| LjL | berndj, no, but i didn't venture into places where i might expect to see them, like the park | 03:23 |
| LjL | as a matter of fact just as i was heading towards the nearest park i saw an army truck come out of it | 03:23 |
| LjL | i thought it prudent to go somewhere else | 03:23 |
| LjL | but there was a "group", of 4-5 people | 03:23 |
| LjL | those were the ones queuing in front of the small supermarket near home | 03:23 |
| LjL | directly in front, so since they were keeping distance, one of them was actually on the street | 03:24 |
| LjL | which seems sort of okay since there are basically no cars | 03:24 |
| LjL | except the few there are go rather fast | 03:24 |
| LjL | anyhow, i dodged them all by going even further in the middle of the street | 03:24 |
| berndj | we got our first confirmed case in a slum today | 03:24 |
| LjL | but point is: there are still groups, queuing in front of supermarkets, and i think that's concerning | 03:24 |
| LjL | possibly unavoidable, but concerning | 03:24 |
| berndj | how are they queueing? bunched up or leaving an adequate space between people? | 03:25 |
| LjL | no as i said they were "keeping distane" | 03:25 |
| LjL | adequate, i don't know | 03:25 |
| LjL | but at least that meter that government mandates | 03:25 |
| LjL | probably more in that case | 03:25 |
| LjL | but 4-5 is a thing | 03:25 |
| berndj | i wouldn't feel comfortable with just 1 meter | 03:26 |
| LjL | in front of *big* supermarkets there can be 4-5... hundred? | 03:26 |
| LjL | berndj, me neither, but for some reason that's what the law says | 03:26 |
| LjL | i suspect most people will keep somewhat further away if feasible | 03:26 |
| LjL | but i think when you have long rows of people waiting to get into a supermarket, you will have sustained transmission, no matter where you tell them to stand | 03:27 |
| LjL | nevermind the fact that the insides of the supermarket is also transmission galore, even with few people inside | 03:27 |
| berndj | yeah, i think your idea of military-style standard rations is a reasonable one | 03:27 |
| LjL | i don't say it lightly | 03:28 |
| LjL | i am a very picky eater, i'd hate it | 03:28 |
| LjL | i just don't think it can work this way | 03:28 |
| berndj | even if it isn't mandatory, just to get the common case optimized out | 03:28 |
| berndj | "i'll just go to the shop for a bottle of milk and some bread" | 03:29 |
| LjL | well, i don't know if *all* of Wuhan went with standard rations eventually, but | 03:29 |
| LjL | either that, or they could go to the supermarket every two weeks, alone, maximum two hours outside | 03:29 |
| LjL | now honestly i have no idea how i'd take home enough food for two weeks for me *and* my parents | 03:29 |
| LjL | so i'd rather the standard ration methinks | 03:30 |
| berndj | do italians have to register with the government where they live like germans have to do the "anmelden" thing? | 03:30 |
| LjL | not sure if it's the same as germany, but yes, residence | 03:30 |
| LjL | in theory we even have to notify police if people just sleep over one night | 03:31 |
| berndj | ok so in theory the government knows how many people live in every residence | 03:31 |
| LjL | which is ridiculous, nobody does it, it comes from anti-terrorism laws from the 70s | 03:31 |
| LjL | but it became an issue again with airbnbs | 03:31 |
| LjL | yes, they should | 03:31 |
| berndj | we have the problem here, i think, that the people living in the slums live hand to mouth, they had no means to stock up on toilet paper and whatever else we need | 03:32 |
| berndj | so they basically "have to" go to the shop every day | 03:32 |
| LjL | anyway, the supermarket that used to have 15-day windows to order online, and which never had slots unless you tried right after midnight repeatedly, has now been "stuck" on the same day as the final day of the window for several days | 03:32 |
| LjL | so i suspect they won't deliver anymore | 03:32 |
| LjL | and then good luck to us | 03:33 |
| berndj | it doesn't quite make sense to me, because if they have jobs they don't get paid on a daily basis either | 03:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 01:24 UTC: Coronavirus live news: US deaths could reach 200,000 as UK warned of six-month lockdown: US expert Dr Anthony Fauci makes grim prediction; Moscow announces lockdown of 12m people; Syria records first death. Follow the latest updates [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/M8cBsP | 03:34 |
| LjL | berndj, well, on a different scale, americans talk about stocking up amounts of food that are just ridiculous to me living in an apartment. and it's a big apartment, but i just can't like... leave a ton of food in the basement to survive off for months | 03:34 |
| LjL | "Doctors and medical workers in India are being ostracised from communities, evicted from their homes and forced to sleep in hospital bathrooms and on floors over fears they may be carrying coronavirus." :\ | 03:35 |
| Brainstorm | πΈ World: +606 cases (now 722033), +30 deaths (now 33974), +189 recoveries (now 151127) πΉ Alabama, US: +60 cases (now 827), +5 deaths (now 9) πΉ Alaska, US: +17 cases (now 102) πΉ Angola: +2 cases (now 7), +2 deaths (now 2) πΉ Argentina: +75 cases (now 820), +1 deaths (now 20), +19 recoveries (now 91) πΉ Arkansas, US: +17 cases (now 426), +1 deaths (now 6) [... want %more?] | 03:36 |
| python476 | https://www.quiverquant.com/covidtreatments/ | 03:45 |
| python476 | covid treatment trials dashboard | 03:45 |
| python476 | LjL: r/france was having a blast over neighbors printing "demands" on nurses house doors asking to go live elsewhere | 03:46 |
| python476 | (anonymously of course) | 03:46 |
| LjL | python476, you know what i think the problem is with certain group behaviors? if i knew a doctor or a nurse lives in my building, honestly, i'd be a little more scared than i already am of even taking the stairs and touching the doorknob in the hall. but it wouldn't even *cross my mind* to take any action against them, it'd be just like something out of the realm of conceivable possibilities. now that i know people are doing it... hopefully i still won't, | 03:51 |
| LjL | and i say this with some uncertainty because i'm human and when i see that when other humans "realize" they can do these things because one of them starts, and then they all do, i'm almost horrified by potentially becoming one of them | 03:51 |
| LjL | i wouldn't need to be horrified by that thought if i *knew* i wouldn't become like them | 03:52 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 01:39 UTC: World news: 'Papua New Guinea is not prepared': 4,000 nurses to strike over Covid-19 readiness β from r/WorldNews at 01:39: Estimates show Wuhan death toll far higher than official figure β https://is.gd/thkKAD | 03:52 |
| IronY | LjL: As long has the ratio remains right | 03:54 |
| IronY | for example, 10,000 people clapping at their windows in uniformity versus one idiot with an anonymous note | 03:54 |
| eaxomar | Social media pretends to shame the behaviour but actually disseminates it | 03:55 |
| sYN4P515 | LjL not sure if you saw my msg yesterday, but I removed the colors from CoronaBot | 03:56 |
| sYN4P515 | for this chan anyway | 03:56 |
| kreyren | any info on the Shafer from germany? was it confirmed that the suicide was due to the covid-19 ? | 03:59 |
| ubLIX | read one article about it, kreyren. authorities 'came to that conclusion' but it seemed to have been a judgement call | 04:00 |
| kreyren | ubLIX, judgement call of what kind? | 04:02 |
| jacklsw | suicide due to worry | 04:03 |
| ubLIX | mhm | 04:04 |
| ubLIX | this was the article i read: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-29/death-of-german-finance-official-linked-to-virus-crisis | 04:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 01:58 UTC: Coronavirus Australia update live: Tasmania records its first Covid-19 death β latest news: Australian prime minister Scott Morrison announced further restrictions on Sunday, including limiting public gatherings to two people. Follow all the latest Covid-19 updates [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/isSr2C | 04:04 |
| LjL | sYN4P515, i saw it but then i forgot, this whole bot thing had overwhelmed me a bit | 04:10 |
| LjL | can we all have a tacit agreement that we won't have any *more* bots than 3 though? | 04:11 |
| sYN4P515 | haha fine with me :) | 04:11 |
| AimHere | I say we have a botfight to see which three are allowed to stay | 04:11 |
| sYN4P515 | lol | 04:11 |
| LjL | i think we nearly did | 04:11 |
| COVID-19Hangouts | "There can only be...three?" | 04:12 |
| ubLIX | like to see the new output. is it still !cases, sYN4P515? | 04:13 |
| sYN4P515 | !corona | 04:13 |
| CoronaBot | Total cases: 721,903 (+58,776), deaths: 33,966 (+3,105), recovered: 151,312. Active cases: 536,625, 509,836 are in a mild condition, 26,789 are in a serious condition. Mortality: 4.71%, case fatality rate: 18.33%. Case rate: 66,761/day, death rate: 3,518/day. Last update: 12m ago. | 04:13 |
| ubLIX | will there still be a double-bot event with !risk? | 04:14 |
| sYN4P515 | hope bold is ok | 04:14 |
| ubLIX | !risk | 04:14 |
| ubLIX | !risk 30 | 04:14 |
| ubLIX | gone? | 04:14 |
| LjL | ubLIX, quite possibly Matrix bridge issues... a lot of Matrix users have been coming and going | 04:15 |
| ubLIX | sYN4P515: the muted colours are much easier on my eyes, at any rate | 04:15 |
| sYN4P515 | cool | 04:15 |
| LjL-Matrix | !cases italy | 04:16 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 02:15 UTC: /u/SuitingUncle620: Argentina extends mandatory quarantine until mid April: β from r/WorldNews at 02:15: City of Toronto acquires hotels, rental buildings for homeless in response to coronavirus β https://is.gd/1mo4WR | 04:16 |
| ubLIX | sYN4P515: didn't your bot also do the risk breakdown thing? | 04:16 |
| sYN4P515 | nope ,it was CovBot | 04:17 |
| sYN4P515 | maybe it is still muted | 04:17 |
| sYN4P515 | !corona italy | 04:17 |
| CoronaBot | Italy: Global rank: #2, cases: 97,689 (+5,217), fatalities: 10,779 (+756), active cases: 73,880, total recovered: 13,030, in a serious condition: 3,906. Mortality: 11.03%, case fatality rate: 45.27%, cases/1M: 1616.0, deaths/1M: 178.0. Case rate: 5,974/day, death rate: 889/day. | 04:17 |
| LjL | nope, or i would at least see its output on Matrix | 04:17 |
| LjL | but i don't | 04:17 |
| Raf[m] | !corona china | 04:18 |
| CoronaBot | China: Global rank: #3, cases: 81,439, fatalities: 3,300, active cases: 2,691, total recovered: 75,448, in a serious condition: 742. Mortality: 4.05%, case fatality rate: 4.19%, cases/1M: 57.0, deaths/1M: 2.0. Case rate: 45/day, death rate: 5/day. | 04:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | LjL: Hi! hope you're ok | 04:19 |
| LjL | DocScrutinizer05, alive and to the best on my knowledge, uninfected | 04:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | almost as good as "recovered" :-) Good to hear this | 04:22 |
| ubLIX | sYN4P515: is your bot put together in such a way that it is quick and simple to alter its !bang behaviour. i am recalling the ! clash with CovBot. when the matrix bridge comes back up, we will get to see if the clash still exists. | 04:25 |
| sYN4P515 | umm what is !bang ? | 04:25 |
| sYN4P515 | not a command in my bot | 04:26 |
| ubLIX | both your bot and CovBot respond to !help, i believe. we need to do something about that | 04:26 |
| ubLIX | the only other thing i can think of right now is that one or both of them gives a multi-line output for !help. if that could be reduced to one line, the scroll would be cleaner | 04:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you can't have two bots using same attention char | 04:28 |
| LjL | well, technically you can, but it could indeed prove problematic :P | 04:29 |
| sYN4P515 | ubLIX possibly i can change the ouput of !help to be delivered via pm or channel private message (or whatever its called) | 04:29 |
| LjL | PM would be good, it would also encourage people who call it to keep tinkering in PM | 04:29 |
| ubLIX | oh! i like that idea | 04:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | LjL: believe me, as long term botop of infobot: it won't pan out | 04:30 |
| LjL | i believe you | 04:30 |
| sYN4P515 | ok I will see if i can implement this today ubLIX | 04:30 |
| LjL | as a long term op of bots that collided with each other | 04:30 |
| ubLIX | sorry to be a pain. hope you're enjoying the bot dev! | 04:30 |
| sYN4P515 | haha i enjoy * dev | 04:31 |
| twomoon | ljl do your parents still order takeout food from restaurants | 04:31 |
| LjL | twomoon, they never really did | 04:31 |
| LjL | so no | 04:31 |
| twomoon | are a lot of restaurants still open for take out? | 04:32 |
| twomoon | for delivery | 04:32 |
| twomoon | obviously you can't go out and pick up food i presume | 04:32 |
| LjL | twomoon, they *can* stay open for delivery, but i don't really know how many actuall do | 04:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 02:29 UTC: Coronavirus live updates: Global cases of reported infections exceed 700,000: There were at least 720,117 reported cases of COVID-19, the disease caused by the virus, and 33,881 deaths, according to Johns Hopkins University. [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/wPoZn3 | 04:34 |
| twomoon | have you ordered anything to be delivered besides unprepared groceries/ | 04:35 |
| LjL | twomoon, no, just groceries, and we actually disinfect the packaging they come in now | 04:36 |
| Brainstorm | πΈ World: +526 cases (now 722559), +11 deaths (now 33985), +638 recoveries (now 151765) πΈ US: +511 cases (now 142070), +16 deaths (now 2484), +124 recoveries (now 4559) πΉ Alabama, US: +60 cases (now 827), +5 deaths (now 9) πΉ Alaska, US: +17 cases (now 102) πΉ Angola: +2 cases (now 7), +2 deaths (now 2) [... want %more?] | 04:36 |
| LjL | but it looks like it may not be possible to continue doing this | 04:36 |
| LjL | although we have like another couple of deliveries already booked, hopefully they actually happen | 04:36 |
| twomoon | my parents just got takeout food and plopped it on the counter without going through the garage first | 04:36 |
| LjL | but after those, i dunno | 04:36 |
| twomoon | do you have to order groceries a week in advance ? | 04:37 |
| LjL | two | 04:37 |
| twomoon | i've seen some crazy long delivery times here | 04:37 |
| twomoon | i mean for groceries | 04:37 |
| LjL | yes, two weeks for groceries | 04:37 |
| LjL | but now they are no longer opening any new slots as days pass | 04:38 |
| twomoon | jesus | 04:38 |
| LjL | so they are either stopping deliveries, or i dunno | 04:38 |
| twomoon | i hope to god a black market sprouts up for groceries | 04:38 |
| LjL | i mean, we can still *go* to the grocery store | 04:38 |
| LjL | i think it's a risk, but how would a black market be any better? | 04:38 |
| twomoon | i mea for deliveries | 04:40 |
| twomoon | mean | 04:40 |
| twomoon | because people are seeing long delays | 04:40 |
| twomoon | a speedier option could sprout up | 04:40 |
| LjL | well if you're in the streets on a vehicle, i think there are decent chances to be pulled over by police | 04:40 |
| LjL | and if that happens, you need to have a letter from your employer | 04:40 |
| LjL | and if you're employed in the black market, you don't have that | 04:41 |
| LjL | although i suppose you could always try to drive faster than the cops | 04:41 |
| LjL | and then get sentenced to death for unlawful groceries delivery | 04:41 |
| LjL | oh wait i think i'm a few steps ahead here | 04:41 |
| tinwhiskers | I hope people stop acting like asses and hoarding so that everyone can get what they need from the supermarket. We don't need a black market | 04:42 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, that is not the issue | 04:42 |
| LjL | it's that the supermarket's delivery system really wasn't made to cope with this demand | 04:42 |
| LjL | and on the other hand, *going* to the supermarket means very long queues outside | 04:42 |
| twomoon | have you seen any military patrols along your road? | 04:42 |
| AimHere | Partly that, and partly the demand is greater even without hoarding | 04:42 |
| LjL | not because anyone is hoarding, just because they don't let more than small groups of people inside | 04:42 |
| AimHere | Folks need to prepare for a couple of weeks extra food AND they're not eating out so much | 04:43 |
| AimHere | So they need to buy more | 04:43 |
| LjL | twomoon, no, but i've seen a military truck come out of the nearest park | 04:43 |
| tinwhiskers | if people go once a week and quickly go around getting a week worth of supplies it woul dbe a lot better than going every day or so like a lot of people seem to do | 04:43 |
| LjL | parks are supposed to be closed but that one can't fully be closed | 04:43 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, given the length of the queues, i think they would be a little masochistic to go every day | 04:44 |
| LjL | however... | 04:44 |
| LjL | we always bought a *lot* of groceries and went by car, or we wouldn't really have been able to take them home | 04:44 |
| LjL | now you aren't even allowed to go inside the supermarket with other people, it has to be one person | 04:44 |
| tinwhiskers | hrm. ok | 04:44 |
| LjL | my idea on the matter hasn't changed, they should close supermarkets and convert it all to deliveries, with state aid to any necessary extent | 04:46 |
| tinwhiskers | as an asside, we're in our first week of lockdown. I just got back from town (had to see the doctor). There was basically nobody at the shops, but the lockdown hasn't been going for long. | 04:46 |
| tinwhiskers | LjL: they can do both | 04:46 |
| LjL | i'm sure our military people could do other things that just driving circles in a patrol | 04:46 |
| tinwhiskers | yeah, the military should be able to help | 04:46 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/worldnews: Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says Health Canada will ensure that all masks and medical equipment arriving from China will be properly evaluated, after reports that the Dutch government recalled over 600,000 faulty masks imported from the country. (5049 votes) | 04:46 |
| CoronaBot | https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/trudeau-vows-no-corners-cut-in-accepting-masks-other-supplies-from-china-1.4873233 | https://redd.it/frbkqr | 04:46 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 02:42 UTC: (news): Coronavirus updates: Trump extends national social distancing guidelines through April 30, field hospital set up inside Central Park β from r/WorldNews at 02:42: City of Toronto acquires hotels, rental buildings for homeless in response to coronavirus β https://is.gd/vg1XLV | 04:47 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, i think they *shouldn't* do both, i think people physically going to the supermarkets and queuing is the main remaining contagion vector, together with the unavoidable, i.e. hospitals, and maybe i'll grant them what they talk about a lot lately, i.e. infections passed within a household (but i don't think that can really be avoided even if they change from having people self-isolate to isolating them in hotels etc, due to the | 04:48 |
| LjL | nearly-asymptomatic contagiousness) | 04:48 |
| tinwhiskers | yes, if deliveries could scale to cover everyone I guess that would be preferable. | 04:48 |
| tinwhiskers | Town was out of chicken. I need to go fishing but it looks like its about to rain. | 04:49 |
| tinwhiskers | We've had a navy ship patrolling up and down around here, presumably preventing boats from arriving. | 04:51 |
| IronY | How do you properly evaluate bulk shipments again mister PM | 04:51 |
| IronY | So you assume bulk shipments all have the same mfr date and quality? | 04:51 |
| tinwhiskers | *the* navy ship, I should have said :-/ | 04:51 |
| IronY | and spot audit a few | 04:51 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/worldnews: Coronavirus: Singapore PM calls for end to US-China blame game, wants to see leadership from Trump administration (5380 votes) | 04:52 |
| CoronaBot | https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/southeast-asia/article/3077479/coronavirus-singapore-pm-calls-end-us-china-blame-game | https://redd.it/frfx18 | 04:52 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | how would delivery service differ any way from people going by themselves for shopping? regarding the infection spread potential | 04:54 |
| tinwhiskers | yeah. That's what they did in Wuhan | 04:54 |
| tinwhiskers | delivery guy would put the package down, then the recipient would come over and pick it up. | 04:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so? | 04:55 |
| tinwhiskers | so they never got near each other | 04:56 |
| AimHere | Means the delivery guy doesn't get it from customers, so the customers are less likely to get it from delivery guy | 04:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you need immune delivery guys then, and basically a significant fraction of whole population has to do just delivery | 04:56 |
| LjL | DocScrutinizer05, there aren't people queuing in what are basically large gathering, however safely distanced, for a start | 04:56 |
| AimHere | Well delivery guys won't be immune, but you can instruct them in the procedures to minimise risk | 04:56 |
| tinwhiskers | immune would be good, but you don't *need* that | 04:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, the delivery guys would, no? | 04:57 |
| LjL | and then even if you're inside in only small groups, it's still an enclosed space, with aircon, and i feel pretty positive that sort of airborne transmission can happen | 04:57 |
| LjL | plus everyone will typically be touching every single piece of packaging to look at the expiry date | 04:57 |
| AimHere | Going to a central location for shopping is much riskier. Lots of people in one place, lots of surfaces to touch. Virus can go from anyone to anyone | 04:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>you can instruct them in the procedures to minimise risk<< that's exactly what you should do for whole population | 04:57 |
| tinwhiskers | yeah, like people can do anything they are told | 04:57 |
| tinwhiskers | (collectively) | 04:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's the problem, but you get exactly same problem with any delivering service | 04:58 |
| AimHere | No, you get a different problem | 04:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | even military | 04:58 |
| tinwhiskers | deliveries are clearly a better option if they are possible on the scale required | 04:58 |
| LjL | if we get food delivered, we can disinfect the packaging | 04:58 |
| AimHere | With a delivery, the main transmission is from the delivery guy to the customer | 04:58 |
| LjL | if we have to go get our own food, we are very exposed *even if* we disinfect the packaging | 04:59 |
| AimHere | The customer can disinfect their packaging, the delivery guy doesn't have to go too near the customer, it's rather controlled | 04:59 |
| IronY | they just leave it on the porch for most things now here | 04:59 |
| AimHere | With a central shopping location, you have lots of people touching lots of surfaces and possibly going close to other people | 04:59 |
| IronY | I had a ups lady yell at me through the window she signed my package for me | 04:59 |
| IronY | I thanked her for her service | 04:59 |
| IronY | it was a nice moment lol | 04:59 |
| tinwhiskers | nice | 05:00 |
| AimHere | Also, things like self-service checkouts are a nasty surface for virus transmission | 05:00 |
| IronY | AimHere: I pot on gardening gloves on my 5 min trip out today | 05:01 |
| AimHere | Everybody goes through and touches the same plastic screens and credit card devices. If the screens are capacitive, it's worse, since gloves don't work | 05:01 |
| IronY | if only to remind me not to touch my face | 05:01 |
| LjL | AimHere, in Wuhan buildings, they have figured out grotesque tissue or toothpick arrangements to push elevator buttons without contaminating/getting contaminated | 05:02 |
| IronY | LjL: I seen that | 05:02 |
| LjL | although personally i have a vague suspicion that the air in the elevator is the main reason why they have figured out elevators are a huge issue | 05:03 |
| IronY | the tooth pick thing is clever | 05:03 |
| LjL | more than the buttons | 05:03 |
| IronY | they are all in n95 masks though | 05:03 |
| IronY | because thats where they all went | 05:03 |
| LjL | probably not if they discard them at the required pace | 05:03 |
| IronY | In canadian headlines today "China donates masks and PPE to Canada' | 05:03 |
| IronY | 2 months ago, 'Canada sends 16 tons of PPE to china' | 05:03 |
| LjL | there's 10 million of them in the city, and 60 million in the province | 05:03 |
| tinwhiskers | There are no gloves or face masks available here. I just use hand sanitiser before getting into the car and treat the boot as a contaminated zone, then when I get home I put everything into a box for 4-5 days, sanitise myself again, go inside, wash up and change clothes. | 05:04 |
| IronY | I wash everything | 05:04 |
| IronY | hot water and soap | 05:04 |
| IronY | sucks for lables | 05:04 |
| IronY | but it is what it is | 05:04 |
| IronY | I used a banadana as a facemask today | 05:04 |
| tinwhiskers | I keep one week extra of supplies so I have leave the most recent alone | 05:04 |
| IronY | because 1: It is part of a fallout halloween costume and thats just hilarious, 2: better than nothing | 05:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | tghe issue is close physical contact to (exhale breath) of other people. Everything else is easily controlled by simple measure like wash your hands | 05:05 |
| tinwhiskers | we did wash our fruit in a solution of chlorine bleach though because they don't last the week | 05:05 |
| IronY | DocScrutinizer05: You should probably give everything a rinse aswell | 05:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | can't hurt | 05:06 |
| IronY | tinwhiskers: soap man | 05:06 |
| IronY | dont bleech ur vegtibles :P | 05:06 |
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| tinwhiskers | bleach is fine :-) | 05:06 |
| IronY | Read a horrible article about dog owners bleaching their dogs paws | 05:06 |
| BruntLIVE | why | 05:06 |
| IronY | tinwhiskers: Its fine but is overkill and you may need that bleach in a time where you are isolating from people in your house :/ (did not want to go there) | 05:07 |
| tinwhiskers | hrm | 05:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | bleach is nonsense, the virus gets destroyed by fat solvents | 05:07 |
| IronY | BruntLIVE: Because they read on facebook it will kill the corona and they took their dogs for walks so they put two and two together and decided to bleach dogs feet | 05:07 |
| IronY | DocScrutinizer05: exactly | 05:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aka SOAP, ALCOGOL | 05:07 |
| tinwhiskers | also bleach | 05:07 |
| IronY | tinwhiskers: yeah but bleach opens a lot of other issues | 05:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and nukes | 05:08 |
| BruntLIVE | dogs and cats are LUCKY, because if it was passed on from them, omg World War Z stacks of them. | 05:08 |
| IronY | inhalation | 05:08 |
| IronY | poisoning | 05:08 |
| IronY | bleaching lol | 05:08 |
| BruntLIVE | i put a capful in my dishwater | 05:08 |
| IronY | Here is a true story from a facebook group for my dogs bread (apologies if you heard this) | 05:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm afraid the cure is more lethal than the threat | 05:09 |
| IronY | Someone posts 'My dog just got back from the vet, it died twice and had to be brought back, DO NOT use lysol spray, I disinfected my kids toys and plushies and the dog was not even in the same room' | 05:09 |
| IronY | to which I asked | 05:09 |
| IronY | 'Ok did you spray like 30 bottles of lyson at a fabric without a window open and the dog came in right after' | 05:09 |
| tinwhiskers | we also have an issue here where the vegetables are contaminated by a local slug and you can catch meningitis. The recommended thing to do is to wash you vegetables in chlorine bleach, so this kills two birds with one stone. | 05:09 |
| IronY | I never got a response | 05:09 |
| IronY | tinwhiskers: I had meningitis when I was 8 (viral), can confirm, not a good time | 05:10 |
| tinwhiskers | you wash the bleach off. the tiny traces remaining are nothing to be concerned about. You get more chlorine going for a swim by a country mile. | 05:10 |
| IronY | I am reading everything you write from here on out ala the voice of Tom from Tom and Huck | 05:10 |
| IronY | or maybe morgran freeman | 05:10 |
| IronY | I am still on the fence | 05:10 |
| BruntLIVE | what is a country mile? really | 05:10 |
| tinwhiskers | :-/ | 05:11 |
| IronY | tinwhiskers: it was a compliment lol | 05:11 |
| tinwhiskers | lol | 05:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sure, small traces of bleach are harmless, but still it's not generally the method of choice unless you got other reasons too for using it | 05:11 |
| ubLIX | BruntLIVE: go for a mile long walk in the city, then go for a mile long walk in the countryside; the latter will feel much longer | 05:11 |
| IronY | also bleach is probably one of those resources that will be hard to get, all I am saying is, you wanna have it when you need it and not use it when you dont want to use it | 05:11 |
| IronY | small town time dilation | 05:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ack | 05:12 |
| tinwhiskers | IronY: that's a fair point | 05:12 |
| IronY | tinwhiskers: I plan on using bleach tomorrow, but I am getting a freezer delivered and I probably would of did that pre covid (very dilluted in this case) | 05:13 |
| tinwhiskers | Although I honestly don't think the supply chain is at a great deal of risk | 05:13 |
| BruntLIVE | ubLIX: in the country i may be scooped up into Quiet Place III: Covid Lore | 05:13 |
| fester | try vinager | 05:13 |
| tinwhiskers | at least no more than normal here. We usually run out of petrol a couple of times a year | 05:13 |
| IronY | fester: I am holding the vineger for any potential cat accidents | 05:13 |
| fester | hospitables use | 05:13 |
| IronY | also great at descaling coffee machines | 05:14 |
| fester | its easyer to find | 05:14 |
| BruntLIVE | i have 4 spray bottles of 91% alcohol, hydrogen peroxide and witch hazel. i spray everywhere. at hotel? im bringing my own sheet set and towels. soaking remote | 05:15 |
| tinwhiskers | tough call | 05:15 |
| fester | add some thing to cover the smell | 05:16 |
| tinwhiskers | anyway, I'm going to brave the looming rain clouds and go fishing so I can have something other than rice for dinner. | 05:16 |
| tinwhiskers | later | 05:16 |
| LjL | good luck | 05:17 |
| skyofdust | Good luck tinwhiskers | 05:17 |
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| IronY | LjL: I have something that might make u feel better | 05:20 |
| LjL | as long as it's not a bot | 05:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | does https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RIXWF7wCX-CihFQzNPfb4t26_t9NlReHj2GH2q3Euac/htmlview?sle=true&pru=AAABcNR1cZM*II53AsQSotrXOMrCFz0MfA&lsrp=2&pli=1 act up for you too? | 05:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>The page isnβt redirecting properly<< | 05:21 |
| LjL | it asks me for permission | 05:21 |
| IronY | https://globalnews.ca/news/6747353/sophie-trudeau-covid-19-clear/ | 05:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | weird | 05:21 |
| IronY | if she can look that good 17 days after announcing symptoms | 05:21 |
| IronY | there is hope | 05:21 |
| LjL | well, sure, it's almost certainly not false that many cases are mild | 05:22 |
| IronY | she actually had a fever / headache etc etc | 05:22 |
| LjL | although, re: DocScrutinizer05 "recovered" being better than "uninfected", i'll try to let future studies say the final word on that, and in the meanwhile, try to remain uninfected | 05:23 |
| IronY | was not one of those unicorn cases we keep hearing about | 05:23 |
| IronY | oh of course | 05:23 |
| LjL | IronY, well, that's still considered mild | 05:23 |
| IronY | but while u remain uninfected | 05:23 |
| IronY | perhaps this will alleviate a bit of anxiety | 05:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 03:20 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia live news: Victoria in stage 3 shutdown as Tasmania and ACT record first deaths β latest update [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/isSr2C | 05:23 |
| LjL | that doesn't mean you don't feel like crap, but... basically anything that's not hospital is mild when you look at the figures being given | 05:23 |
| IronY | My mind has two gears | 05:24 |
| IronY | i am 100% not going to die, i am 100% going to die | 05:24 |
| LjL | hmm | 05:25 |
| IronY | I like to try and stay out of the latter for the majority of the day | 05:25 |
| LjL | i should have some bipolar meds somewhere | 05:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | did I already recommend https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56 ? | 05:25 |
| twomoon | -lol ljl | 05:26 |
| IronY | not really a fan of that article since it ends with "On the other, countries can fight. They can lock down for a few weeks to buy us time, create an educated action plan, and control this virus until we have a vaccine." | 05:27 |
| IronY | lock down for a few weeks and create a vaccine | 05:27 |
| LjL | and create an action plan | 05:29 |
| IronY | That kinda accepts that we are all going to get infected, I on LjLs side | 05:29 |
| LjL | i'm not sure it's implying that a vaccine will take a few weeks | 05:30 |
| IronY | I just dont want infection period | 05:30 |
| LjL | yeah... to be fair, it's going to be hard to avoid it | 05:30 |
| LjL | what happens when our supermarket just stops doing deliveries for good, which seems like it's going to be soon? | 05:30 |
| IronY | LjL: the recovered number will go up soon | 05:30 |
| IronY | just because I dont want the virus does not mean the people who recovered from having it wont go back to work | 05:31 |
| IronY | does mean I cannot leave my house | 05:31 |
| IndoAnon | >lock down for a few weeks to buy us time < it's already too late when they did that... even Madagascar can't skipped this virus | 05:31 |
| LjL | so, the two-class society for a while theory | 05:31 |
| IronY | I guess basically | 05:31 |
| IronY | 3 weeks ago we figured we would be the 'upper' of said classes | 05:31 |
| IronY | I think we may have to accept that may not be the case | 05:31 |
| LjL | oh well i didn't | 05:31 |
| LjL | i was just a bit scared of the whole concept | 05:31 |
| IronY | I more mean I suspected infected people would be the minority of the subclass | 05:32 |
| IronY | but now I think uninfected people will be the minority | 05:32 |
| IronY | this is 100% not rooted in any science | 05:32 |
| IndoAnon | yeah, assumptions | 05:32 |
| LjL | it always goes back to "we'd really like a random sampling in an affected country" | 05:33 |
| IronY | ^ or a reliable antibody test | 05:33 |
| IronY | to know one way or the other | 05:33 |
| IronY | since a few of us who think we have never been infected, actually have | 05:33 |
| IronY | imagine that, your anxious for like 4 months | 05:33 |
| IronY | tests come out | 05:33 |
| IronY | turns out that cold u had 2 months ago was covid | 05:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm already assuming that, a maybe 20% | 05:34 |
| IronY | Likewise | 05:34 |
| IronY | 20% sounds fair as well | 05:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I mean, I was in madrid 4 weeks ago | 05:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | was lucky to get out of town in time | 05:35 |
| IronY | DocScrutinizer05: I work as a professor at a school that is very international student heavy | 05:35 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 03:27 UTC: Coronavirus is 'a serious crisis' for Singapore, says deputy prime minister: Singapore, as a "very open" economy, must prepare for the worst from the coronavirus pandemic, said Deputy Prime Minister Heng Swee Keat. β from r/WorldNews at 03:27: 21 Year Old Brags Online About Not Social Distancing, Gets Coronavirus β https://is.gd/mD3UjA | 05:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sounds like you're the one of all who got it already | 05:35 |
| IronY | we also had the uk office and the pheonix office at our office 3 weeks ago | 05:35 |
| IronY | DocScrutinizer05: We did a count one day in a lab class and I think I was in a room with people from about 5 different countries | 05:36 |
| pepee | https://youtu.be/U7F1cnWup9M | 05:36 |
| pepee | %title | 05:36 |
| IronY | I 'rescheduled a class' one week before the schools were called | 05:36 |
| Brainstorm | pepee: From youtu.be: Coronavirus Epidemic Update 34: US Cases Surge, Chloroquine & Zinc Treatment Combo, Italy Lockdown - YouTube | 05:36 |
| IronY | I was writing my resignation letter | 05:36 |
| IronY | while reading the email the schools were going online | 05:37 |
| LjL | ubLIX, last TV programme i saw (about the virus, like most of them) there were three guests, all remote of course, one of them was holding a phone, you could see a bit of his finger on the camera, and kinda shaking at some point like you'd expect someone would if they were holding a phone for an hour | 05:37 |
| IronY | i seen that | 05:37 |
| IronY | it was off in the corner frame | 05:37 |
| LjL | then one of them asked to show one of three graphs he had provided, but they didn't have that graph | 05:38 |
| LjL | but the thing that strangely impressed me the most was that i could actually see the studio's floor was dirty | 05:38 |
| LjL | IronY, right side (from viewer's point of view) | 05:38 |
| ubLIX | impressed you? | 05:39 |
| LjL | ubLIX, yes, as in left an impression | 05:39 |
| ubLIX | ah | 05:39 |
| LjL | i don't know, sometimes it's the little things that get you | 05:40 |
| LjL | ubLIX, maybe you wouldn't notice if you don't watch TV much, but everything is made to look shiny | 05:40 |
| ubLIX | a sign their daily operations are quite disturbed? | 05:40 |
| LjL | if TV is not shiny, then that's a visible sign our society is not working | 05:40 |
| LjL | that's not REALLY what i think | 05:40 |
| LjL | but it's what my brain was trained to think, i think | 05:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | they're preparing a passive (antibody) vaccine now from blood of the recovered. Age old proven method, works even on snake bites | 05:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 03:37 UTC: /u/SuitingUncle620: France sanctions use of chloroquine for certain patients with coronavirus: β from r/WorldNews at 03:37: 21 Year Old Brags Online About Not Social Distancing, Gets Coronavirus β https://is.gd/NtP6Fl | 05:41 |
| LjL | ubLIX, i know for a fact they are disturbed, and i knew it before seeing it... but as they say one thing is knowing abstractly, another is seeing it | 05:41 |
| LjL | DocScrutinizer05, i don't think that gets actually used as a *vaccine*, if nothing else it carries to much risk... they're using it as treatment | 05:42 |
| IronY | The amount of Social Media people breaking down on twitter / youtubers breaking down | 05:42 |
| IronY | oh yeah | 05:42 |
| ubLIX | this whole thing is going to get into the minds of a great many people | 05:42 |
| IronY | RE: NYC Sex tweet | 05:42 |
| IronY | lol | 05:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | LjL: well, they call that passive vaccination | 05:42 |
| IronY | Thats what happens when the Social Media rep is working from home after having a few | 05:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's a remedy, yes | 05:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and yes, it's dangerous | 05:43 |
| IronY | You get government sanctioned tweets asking u not to go ass to mouth, with emojis | 05:43 |
| IronY | Lets keep that when this is all done | 05:43 |
| LjL | DocScrutinizer05, as a treatment it's promising for sure, but we need to get better IgG/IgA test | 05:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 05:43 |
| LjL | IronY, that was a bit of a something | 05:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | takes two more weeks | 05:43 |
| ubLIX | IronY: "..I work as a professor.."; curious, what is your subject? | 05:43 |
| IronY | ubLIX: It is just a secondary job, i teach an intro js / python / linux class depending on the semester | 05:44 |
| IronY | ubLIX: it was my 'I spend money on new electronics every other week' job | 05:44 |
| ubLIX | the world must have javascript devs! | 05:45 |
| IronY | To be fair to the javascript devs, They made all the charts we keep staring at 24/7 | 05:46 |
| IronY | gotta give em a lil credit lol | 05:46 |
| fester | https://hackernoon.com/covid-19-perceived-spread-vs-true-spread-in-china-italy-and-the-us-yybd3kpi | 05:47 |
| ubLIX | i sometimes regret never having written a line of html or javascript in my life | 05:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aaah somebody knows "true spread" - damn why didn't we ask sooner? | 05:47 |
| IronY | ubLIX: I am mostly a backend web developer, but knowing how to write on the front end (which at this point is usually not just html) is helpful since I can complete tasks with less dependencies if it is not blocking | 05:48 |
| IronY | I dont fight with myself on API implementations basically | 05:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | LjL: could you give me the IP this https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RIXWF7wCX-CihFQzNPfb4t26_t9NlReHj2GH2q3Euac/htmlview?sle=true&pru=AAABcNR1cZM*II53AsQSotrXOMrCFz0MfA&lsrp=2&pli=1 resolves to for you? | 05:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the final one | 05:54 |
| IronY | MrNodeBot: url https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RIXWF7wCX-CihFQzNPfb4t26_t9NlReHj2GH2q3Euac/htmlview?sle=true&pru=AAABcNR1cZM*II53AsQSotrXOMrCFz0MfA&lsrp=2&pli=1 | 05:54 |
| IronY | * IronY β DocScrutinizer05/##covid-19 β β URL Redirected β β https://fso.page.link/jvKM β Google Sheets: Sign-in | 05:55 |
| IronY | DocScrutinizer05: the ip address for that would be within a range | 05:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | DAMN!!! >>The page isnβt redirecting properly<< | 05:56 |
| IronY | google uses dns round robins for load balancing / redundancy | 05:56 |
| IronY | the most complicated part of that bot is the url parser | 05:56 |
| balaa[m] | anybody using grpc? | 05:56 |
| balaa[m] | just booted up on it after being a django / json guy for years | 05:57 |
| balaa[m] | whats so complicated about url parsing/ | 05:57 |
| IronY | balaa[m]: there are 20 non printable characters in utf8 | 05:58 |
| IronY | 2 of them are valid in a url | 05:58 |
| IronY | as an example | 05:58 |
| IronY | but I am not just talking about the parsing of the url, the following of redirects, avoiding malicious links from breaking stuff, etc etc | 05:58 |
| IronY | the bot even does preflight http checks | 05:58 |
| BruntLIVE | Covid is not good for strip clubs, massage parlors or street walkers. all are shut down | 05:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 03:57 UTC: Social workers worry about going to office during coronavirus, hospital says they are 'essential': NYU Langone officials said that social workers, like doctors and nurses and other medical, are "essential" staffers, unlike some other employees who are being allowed, as a rule, to work remotely during the outbreak. [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/l4wp3l | 06:00 |
| IronY | BruntLIVE: Directly contributing to a world wide run on, webcams, sex toys, and prepaid mastercards | 06:00 |
| BruntLIVE | lol | 06:00 |
| BruntLIVE | yup | 06:00 |
| IronY | balaa[m]: the framework my little iot devices run on (I did not code the framework) uses grpc/protobufs | 06:01 |
| IronY | actually made them super snappy when he switched from http -> binary transmission for these MCUS | 06:01 |
| balaa[m] | nice; I am also using it for SBC / low power devices (raspberry pi ) | 06:02 |
| IronY | ESP32/8266 on this end | 06:02 |
| balaa[m] | not familiar with those | 06:02 |
| IronY | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESP8266 | 06:03 |
| balaa[m] | what language? golang? | 06:03 |
| IronY | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NodeMCU | 06:03 |
| IronY | ardriuno flavored c or micro python | 06:03 |
| IronY | or their RTOS | 06:03 |
| balaa[m] | cool | 06:04 |
| IronY | balaa[m]: Think of it like u got a pi, but instead of a whole computer to talk to your GPIO, ur program is the OS | 06:04 |
| balaa[m] | thats neat; could be suited for my upcoming LoRaWAN project | 06:05 |
| IronY | balaa[m]: book mark this dude https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu7_D0o48KbfhpEohoP7YSQ | 06:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 03:58 UTC: Coronavirus live updates: Global cases of reported infections exceed 700,000: There were at least 720,117 reported cases of COVID-19, the disease caused by the virus, and 33,881 deaths, according to Johns Hopkins University. [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/wPoZn3 | 06:06 |
| balaa[m] | yea yea seen all his videos already | 06:06 |
| IronY | This guy could talk about paint drying for 5 hours, I would not care, his voice is a anti-anxiety medication | 06:06 |
| IronY | oh snap | 06:07 |
| IronY | %title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIVIPHrAuAI | 06:07 |
| Brainstorm | IronY: From www.youtube.com: BLE Oximeter Hack with ESP32 for COVID-19 Projects - YouTube | 06:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 04:03 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia live news: Victoria in stage 3 shutdown as Tasmania and ACT record first deaths β latest update β from r/WorldNews at 04:03: Australian Government Announces 6 Month ban on Evictions due to COVID-19 β https://is.gd/isSr2C | 06:12 |
| balaa[m] | I am fond of the swiss; have several friends there | 06:16 |
| IronY | https://www.amazon.ca/Vibrating-Notification-Tracking-Saturation-Effectiveness/dp/B07MY9R69V/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?keywords=jumper+Fingertip+Pulse&qid=1585541760&sr=8-1-spons | 06:17 |
| IronY | Thinking I might get one of those | 06:17 |
| balaa[m] | pricy | 06:18 |
| balaa[m] | very cool | 06:21 |
| balaa[m] | getting one too | 06:21 |
| rajrajraj | Getting what? Covid? | 06:22 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/worldnews: Newborn endangered sea turtles throng Brazil's deserted beaches. Birth of hawksbill turtles is usually greeted by crowds of human onlookers β but thanks to coronavirus, only government workers witnessed this event (5009 votes) | 06:23 |
| CoronaBot | https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/29/newborn-endangered-sea-turtles-throng-brazils-deserted-beaches | https://redd.it/fr7yr2 | 06:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 04:20 UTC: Coronavirus live news: US deaths could reach 200,000 as UK warned of six-month lockdown: US expert Dr Anthony Fauci makes grim prediction; Moscow announces lockdown of 12m people; Syria records first death. Follow the latest updates β from r/WorldNews at 04:20: Australian Government Announces 6 Month ban on Evictions due to COVID-19 β https://is.gd/M8cBsP | 06:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 04:35 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia live news: Victoria in stage 3 shutdown as Tasmania and ACT record first deaths β latest update β from r/WorldNews at 04:35: Australian Government Announces 6 Month ban on Evictions due to COVID-19 β https://is.gd/isSr2C | 06:42 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 04:48 UTC: (news): European markets poised to start week on negative footing as coronavirus remains in focus [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/sfB8SW | 07:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 05:04 UTC: Coronavirus live updates: Global cases of reported infections exceed 700,000: There were at least 720,117 reported cases of COVID-19, the disease caused by the virus, and 33,881 deaths, according to Johns Hopkins University. β from r/WorldNews at 05:04: Chinese wet markets still operating despite COVID-19 β https://is.gd/wPoZn3 | 07:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 05:16 UTC: /u/slakmehl: Daily update on United States data from the Covid Tracking Project reports the following one day % changes: β from r/WorldNews at 05:16: Chinese wet markets still operating despite COVID-19 β https://is.gd/g3Kuqi | 07:20 |
| ryouma | i thoutght they banned | 07:23 |
| IronY | The weirdest thing about international headlines right now is it is literally like watching the same 5 talking points time shift | 07:23 |
| fester | https://covidtracking.com/us-daily/ | 07:24 |
| ryouma | what talking points | 07:27 |
| IronY | 1:30AM, Sunday, Canadas Capital Ottawa | 07:31 |
| IronY | 80 mjpeg feeds to local traffic cams | 07:31 |
| IronY | count a total of 10 cars between them all | 07:31 |
| ryouma | is zinc + c lozenges available anywhere fore reasonble price? all i am getting is cold-eeze which is 21usd and is only zinc 13mg and has sugar which is bad for teeth | 07:39 |
| ryouma | i wonder if they woud be available locally? | 07:40 |
| ryouma | fester: i like that link because it actually says the number of tests (which i approximately infer from pos + neg) | 07:42 |
| IronY | ryouma: I got the last 2 + 500 pack | 07:42 |
| IronY | in my area | 07:42 |
| IronY | sec ill get the link | 07:43 |
| ryouma | i am also not able to find low dose vitamin c capsules | 07:43 |
| IronY | https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07GNTYK8T/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 | 07:43 |
| IronY | sorry 2 x 200 | 07:43 |
| ryouma | looks like 500mg c and unknown zinc | 07:46 |
| ryouma | maybe if it's available in my area i could chew off part of it for a lower dose | 07:47 |
| IronY | ryouma: sec trying to get u the dose ill walk upstairs | 07:48 |
| IronY | fun fact though | 07:48 |
| IronY | this product no longer exists on costcos website | 07:48 |
| IronY | or their website | 07:48 |
| IronY | id est, itss goneeee | 07:48 |
| ryouma | so there is nothing out there? | 07:51 |
| IronY | ryouma: 1-4 tablets daily , 2mg Zinc * 4 = 8 mg zinc - 500mg vit c X 5 - 2000mg | 07:51 |
| IronY | oops x4 | 07:51 |
| IronY | My multivit also has 11mg of zinc | 07:52 |
| darsie | https://i.imgur.com/DWZhjLg.png | 07:52 |
| IronY | but with the chewable, I let it disolve in my mouth and coat my throat | 07:52 |
| ryouma | that is too low probably for zinc lozenges. internal supposedly does not work. studies uded like 75mg per day. | 07:53 |
| IronY | darsie: lol | 07:53 |
| IronY | ryouma: I also get zinc via food | 07:53 |
| MjrTom[m] | Consider some quercetin too, maybe from food sources | 07:53 |
| IronY | I had lental soup today | 07:54 |
| IronY | lentil* | 07:54 |
| IronY | come to think of it https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/best-foods-high-in-zinc | 07:55 |
| IronY | 90% of our food pyramid here at cosa IronY is very zincy lol | 07:55 |
| IronY | ryouma: Perhaps surprisingly, dark chocolate contains reasonable amounts of zinc. | 07:56 |
| IronY | In fact, a 100-gram (3.5-ounce) bar of 70β85% dark chocolate contains 3.3 mg of zinc, or 30% of the DV (39). | 07:56 |
| IronY | You could trade zinc for diabetes | 07:56 |
| MjrTom[m] | But you also need a zinc ionophore, such as quercetin | 07:56 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 05:50 UTC: Coronavirus live updates: Global cases of reported infections exceed 700,000: There were at least 720,117 reported cases of COVID-19, the disease caused by the virus, and 33,881 deaths, according to Johns Hopkins University. β from r/WorldNews at 05:50: India to Pay $22 Billion to Feed Poor Affected by Coronavirus β https://is.gd/wPoZn3 | 07:57 |
| IronY | Just to be clear here, I am just trying to get healthier | 07:57 |
| IronY | Not become immune to covid lol | 07:57 |
| MjrTom[m] | Oh | 07:57 |
| IronY | The vit c + zinc tablets are normally for colds | 07:58 |
| IronY | If i take those, they help as a covid protector, cool, how ever I know they help for colds, and if I catch a cold right now, I will just assume I am dying, so best not to do that | 07:58 |
| kreyren | Czech republic is slowly recovering from Covid-19 outbreak, currently quarantine in Olomouc region has ended and more regions are expected to follow with plan on keeping state-wide quarantine until situation allows it to open borders | 07:59 |
| MjrTom[m] | Yeas just bcos cov is pandemic doesn't mean we don't still have common cold, flu, allergies, etc | 08:00 |
| ryouma | if czech is improving and china is improving does this mean that in principle if the us gets serious the pandemic could be over in a few weeks? | 08:01 |
| kreyren | ryouma, i doubt that assuming that germany seems to be at the beginning of an anarchy | 08:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 05:55 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia live news: Scott Morrison announces $1,500 a fortnight 'job keeper' payment to employers worth $130bn β latest β from r/WorldNews at 05:55: German finance minister commits suicide after worrying 'day and night' about coronavirus economic fallout β https://is.gd/isSr2C | 08:03 |
| kreyren | and that countries are rarely following the advise from countries who were able to handle the outbreak like czechia | 08:03 |
| Albright | An archive of an article on official CCP media coverage of the outbreak which has been mysteriously unpublished from the live site: http://archive.is/ZU4E1 | 08:03 |
| Albright | %title | 08:03 |
| Brainstorm | Albright: From archive.is: Attention Required! | 08:03 |
| MjrTom[m] | "over" is a term that's kind of hard to pin down for this | 08:03 |
| kreyren | also none does any testing in africa afaik so i assume the situation getting worse there as well | 08:04 |
| darsie | Brazil has low numbers, but I guess they're not testing much. | 08:04 |
| darsie | And it's just starting there. | 08:05 |
| Brainstorm | πΈ World: +615 cases (now 723750), +10 deaths (now 34002), +7 recoveries (now 151799) πΈ US: +511 cases (now 142735), +3 deaths (now 2488) πΉ Australia: +1 deaths (now 18) πΉ Honduras: +29 cases (now 139) πΉ India: +47 cases (now 1071), +2 deaths (now 29), +5 recoveries (now 100) πΉ Mongolia: +2 recoveries (now 2) [... want %more?] | 08:06 |
| darsie | Do eyes excrete cv? | 08:12 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 06:09 UTC: Coronavirus live news: UK warned of six-month lockdown as New York state passes 1,000 deaths: US expert Dr Anthony Fauci says US could see 200,000 dead; Moscow announces lockdown of 12m people; Syria records first death. Follow the latest updates [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/M8cBsP | 08:15 |
| ryouma | germany anarchy/' | 08:19 |
| ryouma | ? | 08:19 |
| mrjocas | all good in germany | 08:20 |
| kreyren | ryouma, feels like it from my point of view | 08:21 |
| kreyren | mrjocas, what's good about it? last time i checked there was covid-19 outbreak spreading uncontrolably in the populus and government panicking while being too ashamed to ask for help | 08:21 |
| kreyren | but at least they stole the respirators from czechia *shrug* | 08:22 |
| IronY | darsie: eyes normally excrete tears, they do how ever act as infectious surfaces | 08:28 |
| mrjocas | kreyren, the situation is certainly not good but it definitely does not feel like anarchy. At least in Bavaria, I have the impression that appropriate measures will be taken at the given time after careful consideration | 08:29 |
| kreyren | mrjocas, Well assuming that german minister of finances commited a suicide yesterday due to the covid-19 outbreak based on available info i would say that the situation is getting worse there by the minute | 08:31 |
| kreyren | and based on previous experience merkel is not exactly great at handling these kind of problems | 08:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 06:27 UTC: Coronavirus live updates: Global cases of reported infections exceed 700,000: There were at least 720,117 reported cases of COVID-19, the disease caused by the virus, and 33,881 deaths, according to Johns Hopkins University. [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/wPoZn3 | 08:33 |
| ryouma | can you elaborate? --- 22:56 <MjrTom[m]> But you also need a zinc ionophore, such as quercetin | 08:58 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 06:53 UTC: Coronavirus live news: UK warned of six-month lockdown as New York state passes 1,000 deaths: US expert Dr Anthony Fauci says US could see 200,000 dead; Moscow announces lockdown of 12m people; Syria records first death. Follow the latest updates [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/M8cBsP | 09:04 |
| ryouma | looks like you need like 5g of quercetin. normal doses would be like 250mg right? | 09:04 |
| IronY | yuriwho: Canadians: https://flatten.ca/heat-map | 09:04 |
| yuriwho | heh | 09:05 |
| yuriwho | Iβm appreciating it in these times though | 09:06 |
| IronY | here u got bot peoples https://firebasestorage.googleapis.com/v0/b/flatten-271620.appspot.com/o/confirmed_data.json?alt=media | 09:07 |
| mrjocas | kreyren, to get the facts straigt. Olaf Scholz is the german minister of finance. Dr SchΓ€fer was a german minister of finance for Hessen | 09:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 07:03 UTC: Coronavirus live updates: Global cases of reported infections exceed 700,000: There were at least 720,117 reported cases of COVID-19, the disease caused by the virus, and 33,881 deaths, according to Johns Hopkins University. [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/wPoZn3 | 09:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 07:09 UTC: (news): European markets edge lower amid choppy open as coronavirus remains in focus β from r/WorldNews at 07:09: McDonald's chose not to tell all staff at Sydney store about employee's positive coronavirus test β https://is.gd/sfB8SW | 09:16 |
| arunce | %data portugal | 09:26 |
| Brainstorm | arunce: In all areas, Portugal, there are 5962 cases, 119 deaths (2.0% of cases), 43 recoveries as of March 30, 07:16Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Portugal for time series data. | 09:26 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 07:23 UTC: /u/pixelcraftables: Buongiorno a tutti, mentre eravate via β from r/WorldNews at 07:23: Astrophysicist gets magnets stuck up nose while inventing coronavirus device | Australia news β https://is.gd/DfEVNY | 09:28 |
| Albright | %title https://news.yahoo.com/in-the-coronavirus-pandemic-carbon-emissions-have-fallen-but-climate-change-remains-an-existential-threat-140002670.html | 09:33 |
| Brainstorm | Albright: From news.yahoo.com: In the coronavirus pandemic, carbon emissions have fallen, but climate change remains an existential threat | 09:33 |
| Albright | AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT | 09:34 |
| MjrTom[m] | ryouma: it's a bit difficult for zinc to get into cells through the cell wall. Zinc just randomly in your body doesn't do much. When it's actually inside a cell, it can interfere with rna virus polymerase and as such inhibit virus replication. A zinc ionophore is a type of molecule that opens a channel through the cell wall permitting zinc to enter. Quercetin is a bioflavonoid found in various foods that has been shown to be a zinc ionophore | 09:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 07:27 UTC: /u/pixelcraftables: USA β from r/WorldNews at 07:27: Astrophysicist gets magnets stuck up nose while inventing coronavirus device | Australia news β https://is.gd/U2FDAd | 09:34 |
| IronY | Yahoo, I'mma let you finish about that existential threat, but my girl COVID19 had the best non-existential threat of the year | 09:37 |
| ryouma | MjrTom[m]: sounds good | 09:37 |
| ryouma | MjrTom[m]: but i keep hearing contradictorys tuff like lozenges are good but internally zn not useful (maybe you need quercetin?). and that quercetin you need 5g for it to work. | 09:38 |
| MjrTom[m] | I just explained that, in detail | 09:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health at 07:33 UTC: (news): Coronavirus: 20,000 former NHS staff return to fight virus, PM says β from r/WorldNews at 07:33: Chinese media question official coronavirus death tally for Wuhan; Mortuaries in Wuhan prepare more urns than number of reported virus deaths β https://is.gd/MvQujN | 09:41 |
| MjrTom[m] | And 5g quercetin sounds like way too much. I have read reports of too much quercetin possibly causing problems, but I can't recall any details | 09:42 |
| MjrTom[m] | Regarding that last sentence posted by Brainstorm; of course Wuhan is going to continue to have other causes of mortality (although presumably at some lower rates), and they probably need to replenish a quantity to maintain on hand | 09:45 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 07:44 UTC: /u/pixelcraftables: Conte: 'Se l'Europa non sarΓ all'altezza vinceranno i nazionalismi' - Politica - ANSA β from r/WorldNews at 07:44: Chinese media question official coronavirus death tally for Wuhan; Mortuaries in Wuhan prepare more urns than number of reported virus deaths β https://is.gd/ZyGXhg | 09:47 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 07:47 UTC: Lockdown could last up to 6 months, UK warns, as US and Europe also gear up for extended restrictions: Restrictive measures on every day life in the U.K. could last for months, government officials warned Sunday, as the country enters only its second week of national lockdown. [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/5FByWJ | 09:53 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/worldnews: City of Toronto acquires hotels, rental buildings for homeless in response to coronavirus (5039 votes) | 09:55 |
| CoronaBot | https://toronto.citynews.ca/2020/03/29/toronto-homeless-coronavirus-hotels/ | https://redd.it/frhh12 | 09:55 |
| MjrTom[m] | But ryouma regarding your earlier question ending in "... Does that mean this could be over in a few weeks"; I think the early June outlook that was presented today in the WH press briefing is realistic 1) if things aren't made to be any more fucked than they already are 2) things otherwise at least stay on track or preferably accelerate such as medical care items and materials 3) yet, Mexico is poised to be in an *extremely* bad situation right | 09:56 |
| MjrTom[m] | about that time and in desperate need of extreme assistance from us, especially in terms of those same medical care items and materials we're desperate for right now and the immediate future | 09:56 |
| adventurer | https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/03/german-state-minister-kills-coronavirus-hits-economy-200329165242615.html?utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR294B0FQHZVafnJ00PomJXGQreeyFKK0BxuC7qgwd_t5plUzOosYOb1ZhY | 09:57 |
| MjrTom[m] | I think it's highly likely it will be up to us to go save them, and we will need to do that | 09:57 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 07:54 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Australian plans $80 billion more stimulus as global cases cross 700,000 β from r/WorldNews at 07:54: Chinese media question official coronavirus death tally for Wuhan; Mortuaries in Wuhan prepare more urns than number of reported virus deaths β https://is.gd/wPoZn3 | 09:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://sites.google.com/view/covid19-intel/home | 10:05 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/worldnews: Chinese wet markets still operating despite COVID-19 (5303 votes) | 10:13 |
| CoronaBot | https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/coronavirus-chinese-wet-markets-still-operation-despite-covid19/news-story/104a81601ff7b94fec6dae3e158ad0a1?utm_source=News.com.au&utm_campaign=EditorialSF&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_content=SocialFlow&fbclid=IwAR048-2Ws-biAfJbh-bwFi9UQY01wsv2-T72tMsTxh4O1rHQhpcN7UWEAME&fbclid=IwAR3wCPjtMbBuOgYU0KUjoaBN0nuwcZOtGuZkMpgx__jIeoaqbchAwyonRCA&fbclid=IwAR1zRCZLGDn0OVXg-9ifcQIHVo4laOUU_18qEvt0nagqXpFf | 10:13 |
| yuriwho | 04:11 <yuriwho> sad story from my neck of the woods. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-covid-19-kills-nine-infects-34-staff-at-bobcaygeon-nursing-home/ so Iβm listening to Bobcaygeon by the Hip. https://youtu.be/o6QDjDPRF5c | 10:15 |
| yuriwho | %t | 10:15 |
| Brainstorm | yuriwho: From www.theglobeandmail.com: Nine residents die, 34 staff suffer symptoms as coronavirus devastates Bobcaygeon, Ont. nursing home - The Globe and Mail | 10:15 |
| yuriwho | %t | 10:15 |
| Brainstorm | yuriwho: From www.theglobeandmail.com: Nine residents die, 34 staff suffer symptoms as coronavirus devastates Bobcaygeon, Ont. nursing home - The Globe and Mail | 10:15 |
| yuriwho | The Tragically Hip is.Canadian band uniquely appropriate for these times. I highly recommend them | 10:16 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 08:13 UTC: Coronavirus symptoms: what are they and should I call the doctor?: What are the symptoms caused by the Covid-19 virus, how does it spread, and should you call a doctor? [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/uJoml8 | 10:18 |
| Brainstorm | πΈ World: +590 cases (now 724340), +7 deaths (now 34009), +33 recoveries (now 151832) πΉ Andorra: +5 recoveries (now 6) πΉ Australia: +1 deaths (now 18) πΉ Austria: +170 cases (now 8958) πΉ Bahrain: +16 cases (now 515), +7 recoveries (now 279) πΉ Bangladesh: +1 cases (now 49), +4 recoveries (now 19) πΉ Bosnia and Herzegovina: +17 cases (now 340) [... want %more?] | 10:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 08:27 UTC: Coronavirus live updates: Australia plans $80 billion more stimulus as global cases cross 700,000: There were at least 723,740 reported cases of COVID-19, the disease caused by the virus, and 34,018 deaths, according to Johns Hopkins University. [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/wPoZn3 | 10:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 08:43 UTC: /u/pixelcraftables: Israele β from r/WorldNews at 08:43: Wuhan residents estimate region's coronavirus death toll much higher than reported - 42,000-47,000 deaths vs. 3,000 reported deaths β https://is.gd/oZwg0l | 10:48 |
| Brainstorm | πΈ World: +567 cases (now 724907), +9 deaths (now 34018), +232 recoveries (now 152064) πΉ Andorra: +5 recoveries (now 6) πΉ Armenia: +58 cases (now 482) πΉ Australia: +82 cases (now 4245), +1 deaths (now 18) πΉ Austria: +170 cases (now 8958) πΉ Bahrain: +16 cases (now 515), +7 recoveries (now 279) πΉ Bangladesh: +1 cases (now 49), +4 recoveries (now 19) [... want %more?] | 10:51 |
| Rockwood | hi | 10:54 |
| darsie | hi | 10:55 |
| darsie | tinwhiskers: thx for the infection density. | 10:56 |
| darsie | tinwhiskers: How about making a separate log/lin button for doubling time? | 10:57 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 08:51 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia live news: Scott Morrison announces $1,500 a fortnight 'job keeper' payment to employers worth $130bn β latest β from r/WorldNews at 08:51: Coronavirus: Thai king self-isolates in Alpine hotel with harem of 20 women amid pandemic β https://is.gd/isSr2C | 11:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 09:08 UTC: Coronavirus live updates: Australia plans $80 billion more stimulus as global cases cross 700,000: There were at least 723,740 reported cases of COVID-19, the disease caused by the virus, and 34,018 deaths, according to Johns Hopkins University. [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/wPoZn3 | 11:13 |
| Mr_Pink | https://i.imgur.com/KZSjeEx.png | 11:16 |
| CovBot | Apologies, I've been offline again for the past 9 hours or so. The machine hosting me crashed, so Peter is looking into moving me to something more stable to stop this happening in future. | 11:19 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 09:15 UTC: Coronavirus is 'a serious crisis' for Singapore, says deputy prime minister: Singapore, as a "very open" economy, must prepare for the worst from the coronavirus pandemic, said Deputy Prime Minister Heng Swee Keat. β from r/WorldNews at 09:15: Coronavirus: Thai king self-isolates in Alpine hotel with harem of 20 women amid pandemic β https://is.gd/mD3UjA | 11:19 |
| tinwhiskers | darsie: yeah, I guess I could do that. | 11:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 09:24 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia live news: Scott Morrison announces $1,500 a fortnight 'job keeper' payment to employers worth $130bn β latest β from r/WorldNews at 09:24: Trump: a U.S. coronavirus death toll of 100,000 would mean his administration did 'a very good job' β https://is.gd/isSr2C | 11:34 |
| Brainstorm | πΈ World: +793 cases (now 725700), +25 deaths (now 34043), +120 recoveries (now 152184) πΉ Albania: +11 cases (now 223), +1 deaths (now 11), +11 recoveries (now 44) πΉ Andorra: +5 recoveries (now 6) πΉ Armenia: +58 cases (now 482) πΉ Australia: +82 cases (now 4245), +1 deaths (now 18) πΉ Austria: +170 cases (now 8958) [... want %more?] | 11:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health at 09:37 UTC: (news): Coronavirus: 20,000 former NHS staff return to fight virus, PM says β from r/WorldNews at 09:37: Trump: a U.S. coronavirus death toll of 100,000 would mean his administration did 'a very good job' β https://is.gd/MvQujN | 11:42 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 09:40 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: rate of infection may be slowing, says expert, as Dominic Cummings self-isolates with symptoms β from r/WorldNews at 09:40: Hungaryβs Government Seeking Unlimited Powers In New Coronavirus Bill β https://is.gd/t23ESr | 11:50 |
| Brainstorm | πΈ World: +5097 cases (now 730797), +538 deaths (now 34581), +2077 recoveries (now 154261) πΈ Spain: +5085 cases (now 85195), +537 deaths (now 7340), +2071 recoveries (now 16780) πΉ Albania: +11 cases (now 223), +1 deaths (now 11), +11 recoveries (now 44) πΉ Andorra: +5 recoveries (now 6) πΉ Armenia: +58 cases (now 482) [... want %more?] | 11:51 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health at 09:49 UTC: (news): Coronavirus: 20,000 former NHS staff return to fight virus, PM says β from r/WorldNews at 09:49: Hungaryβs Government Seeking Unlimited Powers In New Coronavirus Bill β https://is.gd/MvQujN | 11:54 |
| Rockwood | who is created this virus? | 11:58 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 10:00 UTC: /u/pixelcraftables: Spagna β from r/WorldNews at 10:00: Hungaryβs Government Seeking Unlimited Powers In New Coronavirus Bill β https://is.gd/lDgNLG | 12:03 |
| Albright | Rockwood: Most likely, nature. | 12:03 |
| AimHere | Rockwood, it most likely evolved. | 12:03 |
| Rockwood | whats the point? | 12:04 |
| AimHere | What's what point? | 12:04 |
| Rockwood | evolved? | 12:04 |
| Rockwood | hows? | 12:04 |
| AimHere | Rockwood, natural selection. All living things exist primarily to make copies of themselves | 12:05 |
| AimHere | Sometimes the copies are imperfect and not quite the same as the previous copies. That's called mutation | 12:05 |
| AimHere | Usually these imperfect copies are worse at making copies of themselves than the originals, and so they die out | 12:06 |
| Brainstorm | πΈ World: +1272 cases (now 732069), +91 deaths (now 34672), +168 recoveries (now 154429) πΈ Belgium: +1063 cases (now 11899), +82 deaths (now 513), +168 recoveries (now 1527) πΉ Albania: +11 cases (now 223), +1 deaths (now 11), +11 recoveries (now 44) πΉ Andorra: +5 recoveries (now 6) πΉ Armenia: +58 cases (now 482) [... want %more?] | 12:06 |
| AimHere | Every now and again, one of these things is better at copying itself, and it proceeds to do just that. That's what happened here | 12:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 10:02 UTC: /u/pixelcraftables: Coronavirus, il Papa ha incontrato in Vaticano il presidente Conte - la Repubblica β from r/WorldNews at 10:02: Hungaryβs Government Seeking Unlimited Powers In New Coronavirus Bill β https://is.gd/tDis7X | 12:07 |
| AimHere | A virus that used to copy itself in pigs or pangolins or bats or whatever, happened to find itself in a human being, and one of it's many, many, copies mutated in a way that made it better at copying itself between human beings than before | 12:08 |
| Albright | That's a very good ELI5 explanation of evolution. | 12:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 10:08 UTC: Coronavirus live updates: Australia plans $80 billion more stimulus as global cases cross 700,000: There were at least 723,740 reported cases of COVID-19, the disease caused by the virus, and 34,018 deaths, according to Johns Hopkins University. [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/wPoZn3 | 12:11 |
| Strantrickt[m] | %data Turkey | 12:14 |
| Brainstorm | Strantrickt[m]: In all areas, Turkey, there are 9217 cases, 131 deaths (1.4% of cases), 105 recoveries as of March 30, 10:03Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Turkey for time series data. | 12:14 |
| Rockwood | %data India | 12:18 |
| Brainstorm | Rockwood: In all areas, India, there are 1071 cases, 29 deaths (2.7% of cases), 100 recoveries as of March 30, 10:03Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=India for time series data. | 12:18 |
| Rockwood | %data Pakistan | 12:18 |
| Brainstorm | Rockwood: In all areas, Pakistan, there are 1625 cases, 18 deaths (1.1% of cases), 29 recoveries as of March 30, 10:03Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Pakistan for time series data. | 12:18 |
| Brainstorm | πΈ World: +3353 cases (now 735422), +117 deaths (now 34789), +1520 recoveries (now 155949) πΈ Iran: +3186 cases (now 41495), +117 deaths (now 2757), +1520 recoveries (now 13911) πΉ Albania: +11 cases (now 223), +1 deaths (now 11), +11 recoveries (now 44) πΉ Andorra: +5 recoveries (now 6) πΉ Armenia: +58 cases (now 482) [... want %more?] | 12:21 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/worldnews: Toilet paper shortage causes βpoonamiβ as rags, old clothes, and paper towel are flushed (5018 votes) | 12:24 |
| CoronaBot | https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-30/coronavirus-toilet-paper-shortage-leads-to-sewer-blockages/12100036 | https://redd.it/frd817 | 12:24 |
| Rockwood | lol | 12:26 |
| Rockwood | Albright, you are also here | 12:26 |
| Albright | Rockwood: Yes. That's why I recommended this channel. | 12:27 |
| xrogaan | is that from the US? | 12:28 |
| xrogaan | oh, Australia. okay. | 12:28 |
| xrogaan | Probably done to kill sewer alligators :P | 12:28 |
| Albright | I'm sure the same thing is happening in the US, though hopefully not to the same extent - I don't think the TP outages here are as severe as in some other countries. | 12:29 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 10:28 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Italy warns of rising anti-EU sentiment; Sweden defends relaxed strategy β from r/WorldNews at 10:28: German state minister kills himself as coronavirus hits economy β https://is.gd/wPoZn3 | 12:32 |
| Rockwood | Albright, everybody is here | 12:33 |
| Timvde | I wonder if they realise that the only reason that there is a toilet paper shortage is because people stocked up on hundreds of rolls | 12:34 |
| Timvde | Because seriously, this didn't have to happen (and I'm really glad it didn't happen here) | 12:35 |
| zoko | !corona | 12:37 |
| CoronaBot | Total cases: 735,000 (+12,641), deaths: 34,781 (+815), recovered: 155,965. Active cases: 544,254, 516,053 are in a mild condition, 28,201 are in a serious condition. Mortality: 4.73%, case fatality rate: 18.23%. Case rate: 59,232/day, death rate: 3,105/day. Last update: 4m ago. | 12:37 |
| Albright | I'm sure they know. | 12:37 |
| Albright | Everyone knows. | 12:37 |
| Albright | But some people panic buy and then others feel like they have to panic buy too | 12:38 |
| Albright | because now maybe I'll need something and it won't be there because everyone bought some already | 12:38 |
| Albright | and now maybe I need to buy a little more than I need just in case | 12:38 |
| Albright | and then that inspires other people and here we are. | 12:38 |
| Rockwood | !corona | 12:38 |
| CoronaBot | Total cases: 735,000 (+12,641), deaths: 34,781 (+815), recovered: 155,965. Active cases: 544,254, 516,053 are in a mild condition, 28,201 are in a serious condition. Mortality: 4.73%, case fatality rate: 18.23%. Case rate: 59,232/day, death rate: 3,105/day. Last update: 5m ago. | 12:38 |
| Zalyssa | the real issue is the pasta shortage! | 12:38 |
| Timvde | Zalyssa: Also no pasta shortage here | 12:39 |
| Timvde | Once when I went to the shop, they were out of rice | 12:39 |
| Timvde | But back in stock by the next time I went | 12:39 |
| Rockwood | %data India | 12:40 |
| Brainstorm | Rockwood: In all areas, India, there are 1071 cases, 29 deaths (2.7% of cases), 100 recoveries as of March 30, 10:33Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=India for time series data. | 12:40 |
| Timvde | There was a very clear message that there's enough of whatever you'd want to buy, so don't hoard | 12:40 |
| blackntan | my primary wine delivery service is closed ... | 12:40 |
| Timvde | Some people still did, but luckily it was just a minority | 12:40 |
| Rockwood | blackntan, where> | 12:40 |
| Rockwood | ? | 12:41 |
| blackntan | dublin, ireland | 12:41 |
| Timvde | blackntan: I would consider wine to be non-essential though | 12:41 |
| blackntan | Timvde: wha?? | 12:41 |
| blackntan | DUBLIN, IRELAND | 12:41 |
| Rockwood | %data ireland | 12:41 |
| Brainstorm | Rockwood: In all areas, Ireland, there are 2615 cases, 46 deaths (1.8% of cases), 5 recoveries as of March 30, 10:33Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Ireland for time series data. | 12:41 |
| blackntan | ;-) | 12:41 |
| Rockwood | blackntan, controlled condition at your side | 12:42 |
| Rockwood | Keytap, welcome | 12:42 |
| Rockwood | my question is who is responsible for this virus? | 12:43 |
| blackntan | why such low numbers in india i wonder ... | 12:44 |
| blackntan | heat? | 12:44 |
| Rockwood | may be | 12:44 |
| blackntan | or inaccurate data? | 12:44 |
| AimHere | Case numbers is a function of testing, for the most part | 12:44 |
| Rockwood | but its progressing | 12:44 |
| blackntan | AimHere: yes | 12:44 |
| Rockwood | blackntan, data is 100 accurate | 12:45 |
| Rockwood | blackntan, data is 100% accurate | 12:45 |
| blackntan | Rockwood: just not enough of it | 12:45 |
| blackntan | which makes it innacurate | 12:45 |
| blackntan | ? | 12:45 |
| jacklsw | india doesnt have that many test equipments | 12:45 |
| Rockwood | at my home location no one infected | 12:46 |
| blackntan | that's fantastic! | 12:46 |
| jacklsw | indonesia doesn't bother doing the test initially | 12:46 |
| jacklsw | until more and more deaths discovered due to coronavirus | 12:46 |
| blackntan | i've got a bunch of friends and colleagues in bangalore area, and no one knows of anyone close that is affected yet | 12:46 |
| newbie-chan | play cricket on street when u heard police horn goes back to house when they gone goes back to play cricket | 12:47 |
| newbie-chan | lol | 12:47 |
| Rockwood | newbie-chan, welcome her e | 12:47 |
| newbie-chan | thanks | 12:48 |
| Rockwood | lol | 12:48 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/worldnews: McDonald's chose not to tell all staff at Sydney store about employee's positive coronavirus test (5010 votes) | 12:48 |
| CoronaBot | https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-30/mcdonalds-gregory-hills-coronavirus-case/12102590 | https://redd.it/frl7qs | 12:48 |
| Rockwood | we can stronger more than corona :D newbie-chan | 12:48 |
| Rockwood | we are stronger more than corona :D newbie-chan | 12:48 |
| newbie-chan | :D | 12:48 |
| Rockwood | corona can't touch us :p | 12:48 |
| newbie-chan | it does not needed but mosquitoes :D | 12:49 |
| Rockwood | blackntan, one more fact | 12:49 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 10:43 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: rate of infection may be slowing, says expert, as Dominic Cummings self-isolates with symptoms β from r/WorldNews at 10:43: German state minister kills himself as coronavirus hits economy β https://is.gd/t23ESr | 12:49 |
| Rockwood | blackntan, our population is younger comparatively others | 12:49 |
| newbie-chan | mosquitoes issue is up when u're at home :D | 12:50 |
| Rockwood | newbie-chan, they are our friends :D | 12:50 |
| Zalyssa | never seen someone use "u're" | 12:50 |
| newbie-chan | offer some blood as juice :D | 12:50 |
| newbie-chan | become ur = your | 12:51 |
| Rockwood | Zalyssa, for what? | 12:51 |
| Zalyssa | but yeah the lack of confirmed cases in india is likely lack of testing | 12:51 |
| Rockwood | newbie-chan, we ve lots blood banks :D | 12:51 |
| newbie-chan | yes | 12:51 |
| newbie-chan | u know ur & ur confuse me so i use u're :D | 12:52 |
| blackntan | you're works perfectly well ... | 12:52 |
| Zalyssa | newbie-chan: fun fact; a couple hundred years ago we came up with a solution to that with "your" and "you're" | 12:53 |
| newbie-chan | i know | 12:53 |
| blackntan | Rockwood: younger population will def help ... | 12:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 10:50 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Italy warns of rising anti-EU sentiment; Sweden defends relaxed strategy β from r/WorldNews at 10:50: German state minister kills himself as coronavirus hits economy β https://is.gd/wPoZn3 | 12:53 |
| Rockwood | blackntan, def?? | 12:53 |
| blackntan | *definitely | 12:53 |
| newbie-chan | time for some plot twist | 12:53 |
| Zalyssa | RIP Thomas SchΓ€fer | 12:53 |
| Rockwood | Zalyssa, who is Thomas Schafer? | 12:54 |
| jacklsw | german minister who committed suicide | 12:54 |
| Rockwood | oh yes | 12:54 |
| Rockwood | why did he? | 12:54 |
| newbie-chan | read up :P | 12:54 |
| Zalyssa | minister of finance for Hesse | 12:54 |
| jacklsw | worry about coronavirus after effect | 12:55 |
| newbie-chan | German state minister kills himself as coronavirus hits economy | 12:55 |
| jacklsw | in malaysia somebody has committed suicide even before getting the test result, and it turned out to be negative | 12:56 |
| newbie-chan | i hope power cut won't start now :D | 12:56 |
| Albright | He really killed himself because of that? Not some other reason? | 12:56 |
| Zalyssa | perhaps there was another reason | 12:56 |
| Albright | He had to have been troubled in some other way. | 12:57 |
| farn | I don't think anybody really knows why he did it | 12:57 |
| Zalyssa | technically it was simply that he was found dead | 12:57 |
| jacklsw | depression is still around | 12:57 |
| newbie-chan | corona suspect patient jumped from Hospital | 12:57 |
| newbie-chan | some news that type too | 12:57 |
| Rockwood | newbie-chan, a person india done before | 12:58 |
| Rockwood | newbie-chan, a person in india done before | 12:58 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 11:00 UTC: /u/pixelcraftables: Easyjet metta a terra l'intera flotta. β from r/WorldNews at 11:00: Austria announces new measure to tackle Coronavirus: masks must be worn in supermarkets β https://is.gd/mOk69t | 13:05 |
| python476 | o/ | 13:09 |
| Timvde | blackntan: You'll be horrified to learn that I don't like wine, at all | 13:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 11:08 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Italy warns of rising anti-EU sentiment; Sweden defends relaxed strategy β from r/WorldNews at 11:08: Ken Shimura, famed Japanese comedian, dead at 70 after contracting coronavirus β https://is.gd/wPoZn3 | 13:14 |
| Rockwood | python476, welcome in corona city :D | 13:14 |
| python476 | Rockwood: I never left, I was just locked-in | 13:16 |
| python476 | just watched Jon Oliver latest video | 13:16 |
| python476 | man poor US braintards | 13:16 |
| Rockwood | idk about him | 13:17 |
| Rockwood | who is responsible for this virus? | 13:17 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 11:15 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Sweden defends relaxed distance approach, US crude hits the teens β from r/WorldNews at 11:15: Doctor in India asked to vacate flat, threatened with rape over Covid-19 fear β https://is.gd/r2eQSg | 13:18 |
| python476 | Rockwood: responsibility for a virus ? | 13:18 |
| python476 | please | 13:18 |
| Rockwood | who made this? | 13:18 |
| python476 | Jesus obv. | 13:18 |
| sYN4P515 | entropy | 13:18 |
| Rockwood | how do you say? | 13:18 |
| python476 | en-tro-py | 13:19 |
| Rockwood | man made virus | 13:20 |
| Rockwood | USA + China Created this | 13:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 11:15 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: Spain wakes to more restrictive lockdown as New York state passes 1,000 deaths β from r/WorldNews at 11:15: Doctor in India asked to vacate flat, threatened with rape over Covid-19 fear β https://is.gd/M8cBsP | 13:22 |
| python476 | Rockwood: please | 13:22 |
| Rockwood | 30 k innocent people dead | 13:24 |
| python476 | Rockwood: we saw the stats | 13:24 |
| jiffe | and 1 guilty one | 13:24 |
| python476 | patient 0 ? | 13:24 |
| Rockwood | how any ignore those? | 13:25 |
| Rockwood | murder's guilty is depends on nature of murder then what should be next | 13:26 |
| Rockwood | ? | 13:26 |
| Zalyssa | what | 13:27 |
| python476 | Zalyssa: β | 13:27 |
| Rockwood | its pre planned murder | 13:27 |
| Rockwood | of innocents | 13:27 |
| python476 | ##covid-feels | 13:28 |
| Zalyssa | Rockwood: aren't you not another non-conspiracy theorist? | 13:29 |
| Rockwood | a virus created and no medicine, it's surprising | 13:29 |
| python476 | Zalyssa: he's just salty because he didn't buy big pharma stock early enough | 13:29 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 11:25 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Italy warns of rising anti-EU sentiment; Sweden defends relaxed strategy β from r/WorldNews at 11:25: Cuba sending doctors worldwide to fight Coronavirus β https://is.gd/wPoZn3 | 13:30 |
| Rockwood | python476, what? | 13:30 |
| Rockwood | any proper medicine for corona? | 13:31 |
| python476 | Rockwood: you're aware that doctors are working on it | 13:33 |
| python476 | https://www.quiverquant.com/covidtreatments/ | 13:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 11:29 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Virgin Atlantic asks UK for help, Spain's health emergency chief tests positive β from r/WorldNews at 11:29: Cuba sending doctors worldwide to fight Coronavirus β https://is.gd/r2eQSg | 13:34 |
| xrogaan | Wow, BoJo's policies might just wipe out a portion of the royal family. | 13:35 |
| python476 | xrogaan: meaning ? | 13:35 |
| xrogaan | The Queen's butler has been tested positive. | 13:35 |
| mefistofeles | xrogaan: that's not because of the policies | 13:36 |
| mefistofeles | that's because they failing to comply | 13:36 |
| xrogaan | kindof, remember when he claimed "i shake hands with everybody" and "let everbody be sick" and "many loved ones will die"? | 13:36 |
| xrogaan | and how he's not enforcing anything | 13:36 |
| xrogaan | And how he's dragging his feet in order to not do anything | 13:37 |
| mefistofeles | he never said these things, as far as I remember | 13:37 |
| xrogaan | Well, alright, it's not his policies then. You're right. It's the lack of thereof. | 13:37 |
| mefistofeles | and I saw at least the first 3 press conferences he did | 13:38 |
| xrogaan | I'm compounding his actions a little. https://twitter.com/JimMFelton/status/1243500481151930374 | 13:39 |
| xrogaan | https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/12/uk-moves-to-delay-phase-of-coronavirus-plan | 13:42 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 11:40 UTC: Johnson & Johnson says human testing of its coronavirus vaccine to begin by September: Johnson & Johnson said on Monday human testing of its experimental vaccine for the coronavirus would begin by September and that it could be available for emergency use authorization in early 2021. [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/3yKqAX | 13:42 |
| jiffe | why september? | 13:43 |
| jiffe | animal trials? | 13:43 |
| mefistofeles | %yt earth wind fire september | 13:44 |
| mefistofeles | had to try :P | 13:44 |
| Brainstorm | mefistofeles, Earth, Wind & Fire - September (Official Music Video): The Maurice White story is a MUST read for any true fan of the mighty EWF: http://smarturl.it/MW_MyLifeEWF?IQid=ytd Click to ... β https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs069dndIYk | 13:44 |
| mefistofeles | LOL | 13:44 |
| Rockwood | python476, they need more time | 13:46 |
| python476 | mefistofeles: it's hard to comply when you only have 203 rooms in your palace | 13:46 |
| mefistofeles | the sad part is that they won't die as the common people, those rates don'treally apply to them | 13:46 |
| python476 | true | 13:48 |
| python476 | let's talk about something less sad | 13:48 |
| python476 | like donald trump | 13:48 |
| python476 | woops | 13:48 |
| tomeaton17 | orange man bad | 13:48 |
| mefistofeles | on better news, gotta love syncthing :) | 13:50 |
| mefistofeles | and getting bunch of WUs from folding@home | 13:50 |
| Brainstorm | πΈ World: +865 cases (now 736287), +65 deaths (now 34854), +187 recoveries (now 156136) πΉ Albania: +11 cases (now 223), +1 deaths (now 11), +11 recoveries (now 44) πΉ Andorra: +5 recoveries (now 6) πΉ Armenia: +58 cases (now 482) πΉ Australia: +82 cases (now 4245), +1 deaths (now 18) πΉ Austria: +412 cases (now 9200), +22 deaths (now 108), +157 recoveries (now 636) [... want %more?] | 13:51 |
| python476 | mefistofeles: another thing to finish learning | 13:53 |
| Rockwood | python476, trump isn't coming for next term? | 13:54 |
| mefistofeles | python476: what? I didn't get that | 13:54 |
| python476 | mefistofeles: syncthing | 13:54 |
| python476 | I tried setting it up but partially failed | 13:55 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 11:51 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Trump reverses himself on social distancing, Virgin Atlantic asks for help β from r/WorldNews at 11:51: Taiwan says WHO not sharing coronavirus information it provides, pressing complaints β https://is.gd/r2eQSg | 13:55 |
| mefistofeles | python476: ah ok | 13:55 |
| python476 | yet I need it because I'm disorganized at hoarding stuff on N machines u_u | 13:55 |
| Rockwood | newbie-chan, lol | 13:55 |
| mefistofeles | python476: yes... I also use unison, depending on which machine I'm syncing to | 13:55 |
| blackntan | Timvde: that is horrific ;-) | 13:55 |
| Rockwood | back to OM | 13:55 |
| mefistofeles | for my personal ones I use syncthing, for syncing with servers I'm using unison | 13:55 |
| python476 | hail to the camel | 13:56 |
| Rockwood | python476, are you python developer? | 13:56 |
| python476 | not really | 13:57 |
| python476 | lisp, python, clojure, java, js | 13:57 |
| python476 | soon prolog o/ | 13:57 |
| Rockwood | ah okay | 13:58 |
| Rockwood | prolog which is? | 13:58 |
| adventurer | https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/two-coles-staff-in-melbourne-s-south-east-test-positive-to-covid-19-20200330-p54ffu.html?fbclid=IwAR389lLylh-0vpn2CN0ZBCPinDXw0FvMKiI6IkIrOriZcCwJbTcq0nTwm1Y | 14:00 |
| python476 | Rockwood: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prolog <= | 14:00 |
| adventurer | i wish they all wear masks even if home made | 14:00 |
| oxalis | what's the latest science on face masks. I keep hearing conflicting information from major media outlets | 14:01 |
| Rockwood | bye | 14:01 |
| dTal | oxalis: they work | 14:04 |
| dTal | different types have different effectiveness profiles | 14:04 |
| python476 | dTal: does wearing a surgical mask reduce viral input or not at all ? | 14:05 |
| python476 | + goggles | 14:05 |
| oxalis | I can't seem to find any anywhere, but many people in my region have them. | 14:05 |
| dTal | worn tightly, I believe so | 14:06 |
| dTal | there's been a lot of discussion abou tit | 14:07 |
| Zalyssa | thing to remember is that masks aren't the complete solution | 14:07 |
| dTal | in here | 14:07 |
| dTal | I'll try and grep for it | 14:07 |
| python476 | dTal: i missed it then | 14:07 |
| python476 | that would be very nice | 14:07 |
| xrogaan | something a little bit more upbeat: https://twitter.com/whiskeymike101/status/1243627963205193728 | 14:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 12:09 UTC: Johnson & Johnson says human testing of its coronavirus vaccine to begin by September: Johnson & Johnson said on Monday human testing of its experimental vaccine for the coronavirus would begin by September and that it could be available for emergency use authorization in early 2021. [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/3yKqAX | 14:11 |
| Albright | September? Argh. Hope they let them bump that forward a bit. | 14:15 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health at 12:11 UTC: Coronavirus: Is the UK testing enough people?: The UK is lagging behind many comparable countries when it comes to coronavirus tests. β from r/WorldNews at 12:11: Taiwan says WHO not sharing coronavirus information it provides, pressing complaints β https://is.gd/bkL2pW | 14:16 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 12:15 UTC: Coronavirus live updates: New US cases outpace world, J&J eyes human vaccine testing: The total number of coronavirus infection cases globally neared 725,000, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. β from r/WorldNews at 12:15: Taiwan says WHO not sharing coronavirus information it provides, pressing complaints β https://is.gd/r2eQSg | 14:20 |
| Brainstorm | πΈ World: +1716 cases (now 738003), +152 deaths (now 35006), +127 recoveries (now 156263) πΈ Netherlands: +884 cases (now 11750), +93 deaths (now 864) πΉ Albania: +11 cases (now 223), +1 deaths (now 11), +11 recoveries (now 44) πΉ Andorra: +5 recoveries (now 6) πΉ Armenia: +58 cases (now 482) πΉ Australia: +82 cases (now 4245), +1 deaths (now 18) [... want %more?] | 14:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health at 12:25 UTC: Coronavirus: Is the UK testing enough people?: The UK is lagging behind many comparable countries when it comes to coronavirus tests. β from r/WorldNews at 12:25: Taiwan says WHO not sharing coronavirus information it provides, pressing complaints β https://is.gd/bkL2pW | 14:28 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 12:34 UTC: Coronavirus live updates: New US cases outpace world, J&J eyes human vaccine testing: The total number of coronavirus infection cases globally neared 725,000, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/r2eQSg | 14:36 |
| v0idkr4ft[m] | So apparently this virus attacks the testicles and sterilizes males | 14:40 |
| mefistofeles | v0idkr4ft[m]: source? | 14:41 |
| gildarts | [citation needed] | 14:41 |
| v0idkr4ft[m] | Hold on | 14:42 |
| aradesh | looking at san marino. less than 1% of their population officially infected, and they've lost already almost 0.1% of their population | 14:43 |
| aradesh | seems they're #1 in the world for percentages in those two regards | 14:43 |
| aradesh | mefistofeles: i've heard this too - thre's a chance it can do that, but i think it's in very bad cases | 14:44 |
| v0idkr4ft[m] | https://www.ibtimes.sg/wuhan-doctors-reveal-covid-19-may-cause-testicular-damage-report-deleted-hospital-website-41023 | 14:45 |
| v0idkr4ft[m] | Basically there's lots of ace2 receptors there so virus binds and creates lessions | 14:45 |
| aradesh | yeah, i'm gonna try my best not to get the virus if that's a possibility even if i survive :P | 14:46 |
| aradesh | will hold out for a vaccine! | 14:46 |
| dTal | python476: https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1HLrm0pqBN_5bdyysOeoOBX4pt4oFDBhsC_jpblXpNtQ/mobilebasic | 14:48 |
| dTal | you might find this interesting | 14:48 |
| dTal | https://slatestarcodex.com/2020/03/23/face-masks-much-more-than-you-wanted-to-know/ | 14:50 |
| dTal | ^this is a particularly good article | 14:50 |
| dTal | the short answer is: yes, they absolutely help | 14:50 |
| dTal | https://slatestarcodex.com/blog_images/masks_macintyre.png | 14:51 |
| Brainstorm | πΈ World: +703 cases (now 738706), +7 deaths (now 35013), +31 recoveries (now 156294) πΈ Germany: +644 cases (now 63079), +4 deaths (now 545) πΉ Albania: +11 cases (now 223), +1 deaths (now 11), +11 recoveries (now 44) πΉ Andorra: +5 recoveries (now 6) πΉ Argentina: +2 deaths (now 22) πΉ Armenia: +58 cases (now 482) [... want %more?] | 14:51 |
| dTal | but on a personal level you're much better off with n95 | 14:51 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 12:50 UTC: Johnson & Johnson says human testing of its coronavirus vaccine to begin by September: Johnson & Johnson said human testing of its experimental vaccine for the coronavirus will begin by September and it could be available for emergency use authorization in early 2021. [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/3yKqAX | 14:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 12:58 UTC: (news): European markets mixed amid choppy session as coronavirus remains in focus β from r/WorldNews at 12:58: Locals in Wuhan believe 42,000 people may have died from coronavirus β https://is.gd/sfB8SW | 15:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 13:00 UTC: Coronavirus live updates: New US cases outpace world, J&J eyes human vaccine testing: The total number of coronavirus infection cases globally neared 725,000, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. β from r/WorldNews at 13:00: Locals in Wuhan believe 42,000 people may have died from coronavirus β https://is.gd/r2eQSg | 15:05 |
| python476 | too nice dTal | 15:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 13:10 UTC: /u/pixelcraftables: Buoni spesa coronavirus: ecco i fondi per i comuni. 15 mln a Roma, 600 euro a micro-Comuni - la Repubblica β from r/WorldNews at 13:10: Locals in Wuhan believe 42,000 people may have died from coronavirus β https://is.gd/bvFHbG | 15:14 |
| Birosso | ... | 15:17 |
| darsie | . | 15:17 |
| Birosso | IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD! | 15:17 |
| darsie | Don't fall off it. | 15:17 |
| jacklsw | it will end if IRC is really dead | 15:17 |
| Zalyssa | mostly matrix users, nothing of value was lost | 15:18 |
| mefistofeles | matrix failing again :/ | 15:18 |
| python476 | jacklsw: we all know IRC will outlive the cosmos | 15:19 |
| Zalyssa | python476: https://xkcd.com/1782/ | 15:19 |
| term99 | lol python476 | 15:19 |
| pepee | https://youtu.be/U7F1cnWup9M | 15:20 |
| pepee | %title | 15:20 |
| Brainstorm | pepee: From youtu.be: Coronavirus Epidemic Update 34: US Cases Surge, Chloroquine & Zinc Treatment Combo, Italy Lockdown - YouTube | 15:20 |
| Brainstorm | πΈ World: +822 cases (now 739528), +9 deaths (now 35022), +22 recoveries (now 156316) πΈ Austria: +589 cases (now 9377), +22 deaths (now 108), +157 recoveries (now 636) πΉ Albania: +11 cases (now 223), +1 deaths (now 11), +11 recoveries (now 44) πΉ Andorra: +5 recoveries (now 6) πΉ Argentina: +2 deaths (now 22) πΉ Armenia: +58 cases (now 482) [... want %more?] | 15:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 13:16 UTC: Coronavirus live updates: New US cases outpace world, J&J eyes human vaccine testing: The total number of coronavirus infection cases globally neared 725,000, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. β from r/WorldNews at 13:16: Locals in Wuhan believe 42,000 people may have died from coronavirus β https://is.gd/r2eQSg | 15:22 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 13:28 UTC: Johnson & Johnson says human testing of its coronavirus vaccine to begin by September: Johnson & Johnson said human testing of its experimental vaccine for the coronavirus will begin by September and it could be available for emergency use authorization in early 2021. [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/3yKqAX | 15:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 13:31 UTC: Coronavirus live updates: New US cases outpace world, J&J eyes human vaccine testing: The total number of coronavirus infection cases globally neared 725,000, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. β from r/WorldNews at 13:31: Johnson & Johnson says testing of coronavirus vaccine to begin by September β https://is.gd/r2eQSg | 15:35 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/worldnews: Australian Government Announces 6 Month ban on Evictions due to COVID-19 (5086 votes) | 15:44 |
| CoronaBot | https://thechronicle.com.au/news/six-month-moratorium-on-evictions/3984341/ | https://redd.it/frjd0n | 15:44 |
| Strantrickt[m] | %data Turkey | 15:52 |
| Brainstorm | Strantrickt[m]: In all areas, Turkey, there are 9217 cases, 131 deaths (1.4% of cases), 105 recoveries as of March 30, 13:48Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Turkey for time series data. | 15:52 |
| Timvde | Zalyssa: I already use tmux+weechat, I live in the future! | 15:56 |
| Zalyssa | Timvde: \o/ | 15:56 |
| yuriwho | lynx | 15:57 |
| bin_bash | lynx is a browser | 15:58 |
| mefistofeles | do you know how to see the actual genome sequence (in genbank or similar) from the data in SL413593 | 15:59 |
| mefistofeles | gah, sorry | 15:59 |
| mefistofeles | do you know how to see the actual genome sequence (in genbank or similar) from the data in https://nextstrain.org/ncov ? | 15:59 |
| yuriwho | bin_bash:for conservation of cell data | 16:01 |
| Zalyssa | mefistofeles: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/MN908947 | 16:01 |
| mefistofeles | Zalyssa: that's just a specific one | 16:01 |
| mefistofeles | I need yet another specific one from that map | 16:02 |
| Zalyssa | so search for it | 16:02 |
| yuriwho | mefistofeles: are you looking up the antigenic sequences from the core protein? | 16:02 |
| mefistofeles | Zalyssa: not that easy as one might think | 16:02 |
| mefistofeles | yuriwho: just the sequenced genome for a specific "strain" | 16:02 |
| mefistofeles | and the metadata, hopefully | 16:02 |
| yuriwho | does nextstrain have that? | 16:02 |
| mefistofeles | yuriwho: they have some metadata, but not all o it, as in, authors, sequencing method, etc. | 16:04 |
| python476 | people start to think that overweight is a major factor of death here | 16:06 |
| python476 | were italian victims overweight too ? | 16:06 |
| Brainstorm | πΈ World: +1178 cases (now 740706), +22 deaths (now 35044), +271 recoveries (now 156587) πΈ Germany: +850 cases (now 63929), +15 deaths (now 560) πΉ Albania: +11 cases (now 223), +1 deaths (now 11), +11 recoveries (now 44) πΉ Andorra: +5 recoveries (now 6) πΉ Argentina: +2 deaths (now 22), +137 recoveries (now 228) πΉ Armenia: +58 cases (now 482) [... want %more?] | 16:06 |
| mefistofeles | python476: well, many of them had diabetes, and obesity and diabetes are correlated... | 16:07 |
| python476 | ok | 16:07 |
| mefistofeles | in many cases, not all, of course | 16:07 |
| bin_bash | %cases japan | 16:08 |
| Brainstorm | bin_bash: In all areas, Japan, there are 1866 cases, 54 deaths (2.9% of cases), 424 recoveries as of March 30, 13:57Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Japan for time series data. | 16:08 |
| xrogaan | I doubt they test a lot | 16:08 |
| mefistofeles | they are now getting much more new cases, so they are probably testing properly now | 16:10 |
| Timvde | %data Europe | 16:12 |
| Brainstorm | Timvde: Sorry, Europe not found. Either there aren't cases, or it's under a different name. | 16:12 |
| Timvde | :( | 16:12 |
| Timvde | %data US | 16:12 |
| Brainstorm | Timvde: In all areas, US, there are 142793 cases, 2490 deaths (1.7% of cases), 4562 recoveries as of March 30, 13:57Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 16:12 |
| Timvde | %data China | 16:12 |
| Brainstorm | Timvde: In all areas, China, there are 81470 cases, 3304 deaths (4.1% of cases), 75700 recoveries as of March 30, 13:57Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=China for time series data. Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 1.4% (assuming deaths/cases with β of cases undetected), and less than 4.2% (considering only deaths and recoveries). | 16:12 |
| romare | Strantrickt[m]: are you Turkish? | 16:14 |
| bn_mobile | mefistofeles: define "properly"? testing kits aren't unlimited so I don't think any country (unless absurdly small) has enough to test their entire population (in Japan's case ~126M) | 16:14 |
| mefistofeles | bn_mobile: properly as not too outside the trend in plots of # of tests vs confirmed tests | 16:15 |
| LjL | %data EU | 16:15 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: In all areas, Reunion, there are 183 cases, 0 deaths (0.0% of cases), 1 recoveries as of March 30, 13:57Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Reunion for time series data. | 16:15 |
| mefistofeles | compared to other countries | 16:15 |
| LjL | Timvde, close enough? | 16:15 |
| mefistofeles | specially if you have less cases than them | 16:15 |
| Timvde | 183 cases in the EU, nice | 16:15 |
| LjL | Timvde, see, it's just a flu | 16:16 |
| mefistofeles | lol | 16:16 |
| Timvde | Common cold tbh. | 16:16 |
| Strantrickt[m] | <romare "Strantrickt: are you Turkish?"> Yes | 16:17 |
| romare | Strantrickt[m]: are you happy with the actions of Turkish government about the virus? | 16:18 |
| bn_mobile | mefistofeles: what do you mean by "confirmed tests"? are there "unconfirmed tests"? | 16:18 |
| mefistofeles | bn_mobile: s/tests/cases , sorry :) | 16:18 |
| Brainstorm | mefistofeles thinks bn_mobile meant to say: mefistofeles: what do you mean by "confirmed cases , sorry :)"? are there "unconfirmed tests"? | 16:18 |
| mefistofeles | LOL wtf?! | 16:19 |
| mefistofeles | ok, that's bad, Brainstorm shouldn't let users correct other's msgs | 16:19 |
| Timvde | Brainstorm: bad bot | 16:19 |
| bn_mobile | I think you need a 3rd slash, no? | 16:19 |
| mefistofeles | bn_mobile: ? | 16:19 |
| bn_mobile | (if it's anything like normal s(ubstitute) regex commands) | 16:19 |
| bn_mobile | mefistofeles: as a delimiter | 16:20 |
| mefistofeles | well, it's not exactly that, and that commonly works well enough | 16:20 |
| Strantrickt[m] | <romare "Strantrickt: are you happy with "> Yes | 16:20 |
| romare | Strantrickt[m]: are you an AKP voter? | 16:20 |
| mefistofeles | romare: lets leave individual politics out of this :) | 16:20 |
| romare | I'm just curious | 16:21 |
| bn_mobile | mefistofeles: sorry, so I guess "properly as not too outside the trend in plots of # of tests vs confirmed cases"? | 16:22 |
| mefistofeles | bn_mobile: yes | 16:22 |
| bn_mobile | mefistofeles: true... I think a lot of people end up using it to play jokes on others quotes :) | 16:23 |
| c3r34lk1ll3r | %cases italy | 16:23 |
| LjL | c3r34lk1ll3r, sorry, bot restarting, will be available in a minute | 16:24 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/worldnews: Bolsonaro threatens to sack health minister over coronavirus criticism | World news (5007 votes) | 16:24 |
| CoronaBot | https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/29/bolsonaro-warns-health-minister-covid-19 | https://redd.it/fre9h5 | 16:24 |
| bn_mobile | mefistofeles: so do you think the govt. is not being entirely honest or naΓ―ve? because they are a data outlier? (which I agree is strange) If so, that would be uncharacteristic of Japanese culture, most (traditional/older) Japanese are very honest | 16:24 |
| romare | Strantrickt[m]: answer me, biggot | 16:29 |
| mefistofeles | bn_mobile: I think a bit of both | 16:29 |
| mefistofeles | romare: what? stop harassing | 16:30 |
| romare | ok | 16:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 14:27 UTC: Johnson & Johnson says human testing of its coronavirus vaccine to begin by September: Johnson & Johnson said human testing of its experimental vaccine for the coronavirus will begin by September and it could be available for emergency use authorization in early 2021. [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/3yKqAX | 16:31 |
| c3r34lk1ll3r | %cases italy | 16:34 |
| Brainstorm | c3r34lk1ll3r: In all areas, Italy, there are 97689 cases, 10779 deaths (11.0% of cases), 13030 recoveries as of March 30, 14:19Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Italy for time series data. | 16:34 |
| Brainstorm | πΈ World: +1535 cases (now 742245), +299 deaths (now 35343), +14 recoveries (now 156601) πΈ US: +1487 cases (now 144280), +107 deaths (now 2597), +11 recoveries (now 4573) πΈ New York, US: +1031 cases (now 60679), +98 deaths (now 1063) πΉ Bulgaria: +2 recoveries (now 17) πΉ Dominican Republic: +42 cases (now 901), +3 deaths (now 42), +1 recoveries (now 4) [... want %more?] | 16:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 14:35 UTC: Eurozone: BrightHouse and Carluccio's fall into administration as coronavirus hits economy - business live β from r/WorldNews at 14:35: Coronavirus: Saudi's King Salman Orders Treatment For All, Including Visa Violators β https://is.gd/uOmSRJ | 16:39 |
| skyofdust | /window close | 16:44 |
| skyofdust | Ugh | 16:44 |
| IronY | My pandemic chest freezer purchase has arrived | 16:47 |
| IronY | take that logistics! | 16:47 |
| newbie-chan | /windows shutdown | 16:47 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 14:40 UTC: Coronavirus live updates: USNS Comfort arrives in NYC, new US cases outpace the world: The total number of coronavirus infection cases globally neared 725,000, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. β from r/WorldNews at 14:40: Taiwan says WHO not sharing coronavirus information it provides, pressing complaints β https://is.gd/r2eQSg | 16:48 |
| LjL | Taiwan really ought to stop being treated as a non-entity | 16:48 |
| LjL | aren't we fed up with China enough at this point to stop that? | 16:49 |
| newbie-chan | who is who | 16:49 |
| LjL | to be fair i'm fed up with everyone else too | 16:49 |
| mefistofeles | and context please | 16:49 |
| newbie-chan | plot twist | 16:49 |
| newbie-chan | plot twist: who = wuhan health origination | 16:50 |
| newbie-chan | lol | 16:50 |
| mefistofeles | ah, latest part of Brainstorm feed, I see | 16:51 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 14:50 UTC: Trump: Pelosi a 'sick puppy' for saying coronavirus failings have cost lives: Pelosi told CNN presidentβs βdenialβ was contributing to deaths Trump: βSheβs a sick puppy. Thatβs a terrible thing to sayβ Five of Trumpβs most misleading coronavirus claims Donald Trump called Nancy Pelosi a βsick puppyβ [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/JTihSS | 16:56 |
| mefistofeles | why do we care what Trump calls this other random person? :/ | 16:57 |
| mefistofeles | </rant> | 16:57 |
| COVID-19Hangouts | I'm pretty sick of hearing "WhErE aRe ThE vIdEoS fRoM iNsIdE tHe HoSpItAlS?!" from idiots, and they seem to get buried on Twitter/YouTube, so if you have a hospital video (no matter the country/province/city/state) send me a link, I'm going to get a playlist/spreadsheet together to try to combat this bullshit | 17:00 |
| yuriwho | https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/03/29/more-on-cloroquine-azithromycin-and-on-dr-raoult | 17:00 |
| danielp3344 | what bs? | 17:00 |
| mefistofeles | COVID-19Hangouts: I don't think that's a good way of answering that "bs"? | 17:01 |
| mefistofeles | s/?// | 17:01 |
| mefistofeles | yuriwho: Derek ftw :P | 17:01 |
| yuriwho | a voice of sanity and reality | 17:01 |
| Pici | Taking a video inside a hospital is a good way of either getting fired or being told to put your phone away. | 17:02 |
| COVID-19Hangouts | There's a lot of people downplaying the severity of the crisis and one of their talking points is "But where's the video of people inside the hospitals?!" | 17:02 |
| Pici | Patient privacy still exists | 17:02 |
| danielp3344 | ThomCat: let them be | 17:03 |
| bn_mobile | mefistofeles: for the world & Japan's population's sake , I hope neither of those are true, because if the data is accurate that would give me hope meaning something like this could possibly be slowed by what Japanese already do by culture, ie: being considerate towards others by wearing masks when sick, and amusingly bowing VS handshakes, lol | 17:03 |
| mefistofeles | bn_mobile: no worries, Korea, Singapore, Hong Kong still exist :) | 17:04 |
| COVID-19Hangouts | Pici mefistofeles I mean, I've seen videos from Italy, Spain, and a cell phone video from NYC with faces blurred | 17:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 14:59 UTC: Coronavirus live updates: USNS Comfort arrives in NYC, new US cases outpace the world: The total number of coronavirus infection cases globally neared 725,000, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. β from r/WorldNews at 14:59: Taiwan says WHO not sharing coronavirus information it provides, pressing complaints β https://is.gd/r2eQSg | 17:04 |
| bn_mobile | mefistofeles: yeah, it's just useless news drama noise | 17:04 |
| mefistofeles | that said, many news agencies (most from UK) have already recorded videos on ICUs in Italy and the UK | 17:05 |
| danielp3344 | <bn_mobile "mefistofeles: for the world & J"> problem: one can spread covid for about a week before noticing symptoms | 17:05 |
| COVID-19Hangouts | I'm not saying "Let's all go to our local hospital and video people" | 17:05 |
| mefistofeles | COVID-19Hangouts: yes, I understand that | 17:05 |
| bn_mobile | x called y a dingleberry, y is shocked x said that, y calls x a z; z is *outraged* that blah blahzzzz π΄ | 17:06 |
| Brainstorm | πΈ World: +509 cases (now 742754), +5 deaths (now 35348), +441 recoveries (now 157042) πΉ Bolivia: +1 cases (now 97) πΉ Bulgaria: +5 cases (now 359), +2 recoveries (now 17) πΉ Canada: +351 cases (now 6671), +2 deaths (now 67), +441 recoveries (now 1014) πΉ Curacao: +3 cases (now 11) πΉ Czechia: +18 cases (now 2896) [... want %more?] | 17:06 |
| Pici | You'd really need to be a news agency to get that sort of video. I work for a hospital and theres no way that they're going to let some schmo take video in their ER. A news crew with an agreement to blur out faces would be the only way you'd do this.. and people are just too busy to do that crap now. | 17:06 |
| LjL | Pici, hey. i've got to say we've tossed a lot of what used to be very basic legal principles aside... and now privacy is being very much tossed aside, too, with widespread phone tracking to see if people are violating lockdowns. i suppose doing some journalism to show what's actually going on inside hospital isn't the part of that i am the most uncomfortable with | 17:06 |
| danielp3344 | ThomCat: blurring faces sounds like a decent compromise | 17:06 |
| mefistofeles | but still, posting random videos about them without actual sources of context (date, what hospital, what part of the hospital, etc.) is probably a worse idea | 17:06 |
| mefistofeles | s/of /or / | 17:06 |
| IronY | mefistofeles: I mefistofeles enjoyed ur </rant> , wont touch the topic, but know I enjoyed your </rant> ;) | 17:06 |
| mefistofeles | IronY: hah thanks | 17:07 |
| Pici | LjL: Sure, but here in the US it would be the hospital that could be on the hook for any HIPAA violations, not necessarily the people taking the video. | 17:07 |
| LjL | Pici, i see | 17:07 |
| LjL | Pici, are you okay? | 17:07 |
| Pici | And that brings monetary penalties and no hospital is going to risk that on top of everything else now | 17:07 |
| COVID-19Hangouts | I'm definitely vetting the info. | 17:07 |
| Pici | LjL: Doing fine here, stuck working from home. How about you? | 17:08 |
| danielp3344 | LjL: lol, my phone has no cell modem :D :D :D | 17:08 |
| danielp3344 | I knew it would be useful | 17:08 |
| LjL | Pici, i am kinda scared, but technically fine | 17:08 |
| LjL | danielp3344, well, it's probably effective enough to put them in airplane mode even if they do | 17:09 |
| LjL | danielp3344, but i suspect most people would rather be tracked than lose their whatsapp :P | 17:09 |
| mefistofeles | LjL: not even, and that's has already been noticed | 17:09 |
| Pici | LjL: I've been worried for you as well. I hope we all end up fine (or at least back to our normals) at the end of all this. | 17:10 |
| mefistofeles | just like google access your location when you have location services disabled, your carrier access yours even when you have your airplone mode enabled | 17:10 |
| LjL | mefistofeles, how does that technically happen? a phone in airplane mode lasts much longer battery-wise, which i thought was a decent indication the modem was actually off | 17:10 |
| mefistofeles | LjL: it depends, the most common way is storing the data locally in some file and then send it whenever is possible | 17:11 |
| mefistofeles | but you can just also lower the rate of communication | 17:11 |
| LjL | Pici, i try not to think too much of the "afterwards" because i have a feeling it won't really be back to what we considered normal :( but we'll see... hopefully | 17:11 |
| mefistofeles | and all the hybrid possibilities | 17:11 |
| LjL | mefistofeles, if they do that at the OS level, at least i am not running their OS. but still, definitely not sounding great. | 17:11 |
| mefistofeles | hell matrix again xD | 17:13 |
| jacklsw | agent smith strikes again | 17:13 |
| mefistofeles | tbh, matrix is so inconvenient for IRC | 17:13 |
| IronY | ^ just use irc... | 17:13 |
| mefistofeles | </rant> | 17:13 |
| mefistofeles | ;) | 17:13 |
| mefistofeles | haha | 17:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 15:10 UTC: /u/slakmehl: USNS Comfort passes the Statue of Liberty as it enters New York Harbor. β from r/WorldNews at 15:10: Taiwan says WHO not sharing coronavirus information it provides, pressing complaints β https://is.gd/a5rI4W | 17:13 |
| IronY | mefistofeles: yeah but if you question anyone on it, they will tell u it is the most secure thing in the world and they are not even on irc ;) | 17:13 |
| mefistofeles | I mean, I agree it'sprobably more secure than IRC/Freenode... but bridging the two is not such a good idea, imho | 17:13 |
| X-Scale | These millenials have been totally brainwashed by web technologies. IRC doesn't belong to their books. | 17:14 |
| LjL | i've made this a Matrix room, but honestly i said it before, at some point there will be some spat due to the bridging issues, either technical, or cultural, or both | 17:14 |
| IronY | oh yeah no debate, but comment is more, the second u connect to that bridge, you have a nice little host with a GUID on it, trying to debate someone ur clearly trackable connection is by far better then my host mask / tor / sasl / https lol | 17:14 |
| mefistofeles | LjL: oh sure, we know that | 17:14 |
| aradesh | UK death toll looks to be slowing a little | 17:14 |
| aradesh | but it could be too early to say that | 17:14 |
| mefistofeles | LjL: nothing against the room, fwiw | 17:15 |
| LjL | aradesh, what's today's numbers? | 17:15 |
| IronY | ^ | 17:15 |
| aradesh | 187 | 17:15 |
| LjL | aradesh, and new cases? | 17:15 |
| IronY | %data Canada | 17:15 |
| Brainstorm | IronY: In all areas, Canada, there are 6671 cases, 67 deaths (1.0% of cases), 1014 recoveries as of March 30, 15:00Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Canada for time series data. Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 0.3% (assuming deaths/cases with β of cases undetected), and less than 6.2% (considering only deaths and recoveries). | 17:15 |
| mefistofeles | must be around 20k | 17:15 |
| aradesh | LjL: not released yet on the site | 17:15 |
| mefistofeles | %cases UK | 17:15 |
| Brainstorm | mefistofeles: In all areas, United Kingdom, there are 19522 cases, 1415 deaths (7.2% of cases), 135 recoveries as of March 30, 15:00Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data. | 17:15 |
| LjL | oh | 17:15 |
| aradesh | let's see if i can find a news article | 17:15 |
| IronY | LjL: brain storms urs right | 17:15 |
| LjL | woah | 17:15 |
| LjL | i didn't realize the death rate had already climbed up so much in the UK | 17:15 |
| mefistofeles | wait, hat?! | 17:16 |
| mefistofeles | what* | 17:16 |
| sYN4P515 | !corona uk | 17:16 |
| CoronaBot | UK: Global rank: #8, cases: 19,522, fatalities: 1,415 (+187), active cases: 17,972, total recovered: 135, in a serious condition: 163. Mortality: 7.25%, case fatality rate: -, cases/1M: 288.0, deaths/1M: 21.0. Case rate: 2,433/day, death rate: 209/day, 1st case: Jan 30. | 17:16 |
| aradesh | yes but it was like 260 on saturday | 17:16 |
| IronY | sYN4P515: LjL: const endPoint = 'https://firebasestorage.googleapis.com/v0/b/flatten-271620.appspot.com/o/confirmed_data.json?alt=media'; | 17:16 |
| aradesh | or friday | 17:16 |
| IronY | Canadian numbers by city/province | 17:16 |
| aradesh | so it's gone down a little | 17:16 |
| IronY | !corona canada | 17:16 |
| CoronaBot | Canada: Global rank: #15, cases: 6,671 (+351), fatalities: 67 (+2), active cases: 5,590, total recovered: 1,014, in a serious condition: 120. Mortality: 1.00%, case fatality rate: 6.20%, cases/1M: 177.0, deaths/1M: 2.0. Case rate: 665/day, death rate: 5/day, 1st case: Jan 24. | 17:16 |
| sYN4P515 | thx for the link IronY, i'll see if i can integrate it | 17:18 |
| danielp3344 | %data maryland | 17:18 |
| Brainstorm | danielp3344: In Maryland, US, there are 1413 cases, 15 deaths (1.1% of cases), 0 recoveries as of March 30, 00:05Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 17:18 |
| sYN4P515 | hmm why are some provinces abbreviated while others are not | 17:18 |
| sYN4P515 | a bit inconsistent | 17:18 |
| IronY | sYN4P515: Want the normalizer code :P | 17:19 |
| sYN4P515 | haha i have a lookup table, but still :p | 17:19 |
| LjL | IronY, i don't really understand how to access that based on that metadata, although i went to flatten-271620.appspot.com and am looking at it... anyway, my bot just grabs data from tinwhiskers so if he wants to add province data for Canada he's the one to be highlighted about that (i guess he has been now :P) | 17:19 |
| sYN4P515 | !corona bc | 17:20 |
| CoronaBot | British Columbia: Confirmed cases: 792, probable cases: 0, cases today: 0, fatalities: 16. | 17:20 |
| danielp3344 | !cases maryland | 17:20 |
| CovBot | In Maryland, United States there have been a total of 1,413 cases as of 2020-03-30 14:45:00 UTC. Of these 1,398 (98.9%) are still sick or may have recovered without being recorded, 0 (0.0%) have definitely recovered and 15 (1.1%) have died. | 17:20 |
| bin_bash | not sure if this has been posted: https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/coronavirus-chinese-wet-markets-still-operation-despite-covid19/news-story/104a81601ff7b94fec6dae3e158ad0a1 | 17:20 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 15:16 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Macy's furloughs most employees, USNS Comfort arrives in NYC β from r/WorldNews at 15:16: Taiwan says WHO not sharing coronavirus information it provides, pressing complaints β https://is.gd/r2eQSg | 17:21 |
| Brainstorm | πΈ World: +798 cases (now 743552), +8 deaths (now 35356), +3 recoveries (now 157045) πΈ US: +808 cases (now 145088), +8 deaths (now 2605) πΈ Florida, US: +523 cases (now 5473), +3 deaths (now 63) πΉ Afghanistan: +25 cases (now 145) πΉ Bolivia: +1 cases (now 97) πΉ Bulgaria: +5 cases (now 359), +2 recoveries (now 17) [... want %more?] | 17:21 |
| sl3ge | !corona nh | 17:25 |
| CoronaBot | New Hampshire: State rank: #39, cases: 258, fatalities: 3, active cases: 255, mortality: 1.16%. | 17:25 |
| Flaviker | !ΡΠΎΡΠΎΠ½Π° Π±Π³ | 17:28 |
| Flaviker | corona bg | 17:28 |
| Flaviker | !corona bulgaria | 17:28 |
| CoronaBot | Bulgaria: Global rank: #70, cases: 359 (+13), fatalities: 8, active cases: 334, total recovered: 17, in a serious condition: 13. Mortality: 2.23%, case fatality rate: -, cases/1M: 52.0, deaths/1M: 1.0. 1st case: Mar 06. | 17:28 |
| Flaviker | !corona switzerland | 17:29 |
| CoronaBot | Switzerland: Global rank: #9, cases: 15,526 (+697), fatalities: 333 (+33), active cases: 13,370, total recovered: 1,823, in a serious condition: 301. Mortality: 2.14%, case fatality rate: 15.45%, cases/1M: 1794.0, deaths/1M: 38.0. Case rate: 753/day, death rate: 36/day, 1st case: Feb 24. | 17:29 |
| LjL | hey guys, if you want to check the bot a lot, please do it in PM | 17:31 |
| mefistofeles | yes | 17:31 |
| danielp3344 | LjL: :P | 17:33 |
| danielp3344 | It's somewhat unfortunate, I left my house for the first time in two weeks yesterday, traffic looked totally normal | 17:33 |
| danielp3344 | LjL: many cell modems are not actually any less trackable in airplane mode | 17:33 |
| LjL | danielp3344, really no less at all? are you thinking of ones that turn back on periodically for that express reason? | 17:34 |
| danielp3344 | never trust a cell modem | 17:34 |
| Birosso | %cases Egypt | 17:36 |
| Brainstorm | Birosso: In all areas, Egypt, there are 609 cases, 40 deaths (6.6% of cases), 132 recoveries as of March 30, 15:33Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Egypt for time series data. | 17:36 |
| danielp3344 | Well, for many of them nobody knows, but I recall reading that a lot of them just don't transmit data but remain somewhat connected | 17:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 15:34 UTC: /u/slakmehl: The new laws establishing a de facto Orban dictatorship in Hungary were passed under the guise of Covid response. β from r/WorldNews at 15:34: Taiwan says WHO not sharing coronavirus information it provides, pressing complaints β https://is.gd/zNQayA | 17:37 |
| danielp3344 | Like I said, never trust a technology with that many patents :P | 17:37 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/worldnews: Mercedes F1 to make breathing aid that can help keep coronavirus patients out of intensive care. Forty units have been delivered, and if trials go well, up to 1,000 of the machines can be produced per day by Mercedes-AMG-HPP, beginning in a week's time. (5113 votes) | 17:38 |
| CoronaBot | https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52087002 | https://redd.it/frjg26 | 17:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 15:38 UTC: /u/slakmehl: Nicholas Thompson su Twitter: "J&J says that it will begin human tests in Sept on a vaccine. And it has two backup constructs of potential vaccines as well. The company hopes that, if it works, it can be used in early 2021. https://t.co/LyxyB97aWQ" [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/EbB1GC | 17:46 |
| bn_mobile | weird... irccloud is looping as I'm getting caught up :/ | 17:47 |
| bn_mobile | from earlier: not sure what the video recorded but it'd be interesting to see how messed up it is (ie: "code black" was it?) now, hospitals tend to be somewhat of an "organized chaos" environment anyway. | 17:47 |
| bn_mobile | re. Google tracking after opting out: do you have a link on that? seems like paranoia? storing data locally to upload later only works if GPS is still on, if it was wouldn't the battery usage still be just as high? | 17:47 |
| bn_mobile | re. WHO: they seem a bit inept? they reported China was "on top of everything" (last year?) despite only being shown the things they were allowed to see? | 17:47 |
| IronY | weee | 17:48 |
| xrogaan | Alright, let's hide Join/Part messages for this channel. | 17:49 |
| Brainstorm | πΈ World: +2985 cases (now 746537), +32 recoveries (now 157077) πΈ United Kingdom: +2619 cases (now 22141) πΉ Afghanistan: +25 cases (now 145) πΉ Austria: +77 cases (now 9454) πΉ Bolivia: +1 cases (now 97) πΉ Bosnia and Herzegovina: +4 cases (now 358), +1 deaths (now 9) πΉ Brazil: +32 cases (now 4362), +1 deaths (now 141) [... want %more?] | 17:51 |
| LjL | when the Matrix bridge fails this way it is *really* unsightly | 17:51 |
| LjL | %cases uk | 17:52 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: In all areas, United Kingdom, there are 22141 cases, 1408 deaths (6.4% of cases), 135 recoveries as of March 30, 15:49Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data. | 17:52 |
| bn_mobile | one good thing about irccloud is it collapses join/parts :) | 17:53 |
| bn_mobile | by default | 17:53 |
| bn_mobile | why does Brainstorm reply twice? | 17:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 15:48 UTC: /u/slakmehl: 130,000 Macy's employees to be furloughed. β from r/WorldNews at 15:48: European Countries Are Throwing Out βRubbishβ Chinese-Made Masks and Coronavirus Tests β https://is.gd/9Y8e5t | 17:53 |
| LjL | bn_mobile, does it? | 17:54 |
| ubLIX | bn_mobile: ? | 17:55 |
| bn_mobile | does no one else see this? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/hvZ3llqC/freenode.net_covid-19_brainstorm_double-reply.png | 17:59 |
| LjL | i don't, i saw only one reply at :52:55 | 18:00 |
| LjL | suspect it's on the irccloud end | 18:00 |
| bn_mobile | arrrgh | 18:00 |
| bn_mobile | anyone else? | 18:00 |
| ubLIX | bn_mobile: time to switch to weechat | 18:00 |
| bn_mobile | LjL: so is this a matrix room? | 18:00 |
| bn_mobile | ubLIX: I tried a while back ago but there was no package so I had to compile it and didn't have the energy to do so at the time :/ | 18:01 |
| LjL | yes, it is definitely also an irc channel, but judging based on the number of users left now... i guess it is more of a Matrix room? | 18:01 |
| dunnp | abouy 50-50? | 18:01 |
| LjL | though i'm not sure user count is quite the ultimate metric, considering Matrix users stay connected even without bouncers | 18:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 15:55 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Macy's furloughs most employees, USNS Comfort arrives in NYC β from r/WorldNews at 15:55: The United States is now the epicentre of the pandemic. Canada has every reason to be alarmed - The Globe and Mail β https://is.gd/r2eQSg | 18:02 |
| bn_mobile | I feel like a lot of the "new" IRC-wannabe networks use a single join as evidence of "count" to inflate their #s, ex: gitter.im does the same thing, which IMO is lame | 18:02 |
| Timvde | LjL: Still 195 people in this channel | 18:02 |
| Scarecr0w | https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-spain-workers/nearly-12300-spanish-health-workers-have-coronavirus-idUKKBN21H1HZ?il=0 That is scary | 18:03 |
| bn_mobile | so everyone else only saw one reply from the bot? | 18:03 |
| Scarecr0w | Why isn't any Bot title-ing this link? -.- | 18:03 |
| ubLIX | %title | 18:03 |
| Brainstorm | ubLIX: From uk.reuters.com: Nearly 12,300 Spanish health workers have coronavirus - Reuters | 18:03 |
| LjL | Timvde, but it was around 500 total, iirc | 18:05 |
| LjL | Scarecr0w, yesterday when auto-title was enabled for a while i found it rather... ugh | 18:05 |
| Timvde | LjL: So worst-case, it's 40/60 | 18:05 |
| Scarecr0w | LjL: Gotcha, it's no problem. | 18:06 |
| IronY | feel free to message MrNodeBot a url | 18:06 |
| IronY | example | 18:06 |
| Brainstorm | πΈ Piemonte, Italy: +506 cases (now 8712), +65 deaths (now 749), +54 recoveries (now 308) πΈ Lombardia, Italy: +1154 cases (now 42161), +458 deaths (now 6818), +1082 recoveries (now 10337) πΉ Afghanistan: +25 cases (now 145) πΉ Austria: +143 cases (now 9520) πΉ Belize: +1 cases (now 3) πΉ Bolivia: +1 cases (now 97) [... want %more?] | 18:06 |
| LjL | and i obviously missed the press conference | 18:06 |
| IronY | * IronY β Scarecr0w/##covid-19 β β https://fso.page.link/NWsM β Nearly 12,300 Spanish health workers have coronavirus - Reuters | 18:06 |
| LjL | actually i didn't, unless youtube is lying... | 18:06 |
| IronY | also handy if you want a short link to paste into the channel | 18:06 |
| IronY | cause man as a CLI user, sometimes I gotta zoom out 1000% to copy those lol | 18:07 |
| Scarecr0w | IronY: Awesomesauce! Similar problem for me as well. lol | 18:07 |
| Timvde | IronY: Eh? | 18:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from Scientific American at 16:00 UTC: Health: To Flatten the COVID-19 Curve, Target the Subconscious β from r/WorldNews at 16:00: The United States is now the epicentre of the pandemic. Canada has every reason to be alarmed - The Globe and Mail β https://is.gd/bCNpO2 | 18:08 |
| Timvde | IronY: If you can't easily click links, you sohuld probably find a better IRC client | 18:08 |
| Timvde | (or terminal emulator) | 18:08 |
| Scarecr0w | It could be clients like IRSSI where a line breaks actually breaks the links lol | 18:09 |
| IronY | a lot of clients do that ;) | 18:09 |
| IronY | ALso having blue hyper links that are click and fire in irc is generally not a good idea | 18:10 |
| IronY | I mean, probably good here, but nefarious links are often posted on irc, one of that bots features is running a link to see redirect issues, google safe url checks, etc etc | 18:10 |
| IronY | its not just for the short link | 18:10 |
| LjL | IronY, please tell me this... fourth bot, apparently... won't actually do anything in the channel and it'll just keep the URLs fresh for PM | 18:10 |
| IronY | LjL: Oh you would of noticed that already lol | 18:11 |
| LjL | i guess i would've | 18:11 |
| IronY | you have to pm it, and it will pm u | 18:11 |
| IronY | LjL: Scarecr0w Timvde https://bot.fsociety.online/coronalinks | 18:11 |
| IronY | you could also use that | 18:11 |
| bn_mobile | the thing about shorteners is that it obfuscates the URLs though and probably tracks | 18:12 |
| ubLIX | fsociety... | 18:12 |
| IronY | bn_mobile: it is google short link service, the bot actually paste the real link if you post the short link lol | 18:12 |
| Timvde | IronY: weechat also does that (obviously, because I have a sidebar both left and right), but it also has a "plain" mode which I can use to click links if they're broken | 18:12 |
| IronY | bn_mobile: meaning u can also use it to resolve a short link before opening it | 18:12 |
| LjL | IronY, nice. does it only remember one day? | 18:12 |
| Timvde | (There's also a plugin that let's you literally just left click it, but I'm not sure how it'd work over SSH, never tried) | 18:13 |
| LjL | IronY, i thought i saw a json for this in the other channel, is that the same bot? | 18:13 |
| Scarecr0w | IronY: It keeps records? I hope the # of records it keeps are limited though.. XD | 18:13 |
| IronY | LjL: Last 100 I think, I can extend that if u want, its db persisted | 18:13 |
| IronY | LjL: yeah sec ill give u that route | 18:13 |
| bn_mobile | IronY: what CLI IRC client do you use? | 18:13 |
| IronY | LjL: https://bot.fsociety.online/api/urls?channels=%23%23coronavirus,%23coronavirus,%23%23covid-19&pageSize=100 | 18:13 |
| IronY | adjust params accordingly | 18:13 |
| Scarecr0w | 50$ says IronY uses irssi. | 18:13 |
| IronY | of course | 18:13 |
| LjL | thanks | 18:13 |
| Timvde | Scarecr0w: Smart $50 bill you have there | 18:14 |
| IronY | na I am on weechat on this term with side bars basically exactly as timvde predicted | 18:14 |
| ubLIX | IronY: https://bot.fsociety.online/coronalinks doesn't fail gracefully; without javascript it's a no show | 18:14 |
| IronY | ;) | 18:14 |
| Timvde | It can speak | 18:14 |
| Scarecr0w | oh fk lol, i got it wrong? damn | 18:14 |
| Timvde | IronY: Well then, try alt-l | 18:14 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 16:11 UTC: /u/pixelcraftables: Aggiornamento numero di contagi in Italia 30 Marzo β from r/WorldNews at 16:11: The United States is now the epicentre of the pandemic. Canada has every reason to be alarmed - The Globe and Mail β https://is.gd/RchrwX | 18:14 |
| Timvde | Scarecr0w: No, your $50 has got it wrong | 18:14 |
| IronY | ubLIX: just use the rest point, if ur not using javascript in ur browser ur not my desired user, I am trying to provide information, not build two apps for a 0.2% edgecase ;) | 18:14 |
| LjL | italy gave today's numbers, but for a change i missed them, because my live youtube thing consistently crashes the moment the actual live stream starts | 18:15 |
| Timvde | Being able to speak is still pretty smart for a piece of paper though | 18:15 |
| ubLIX | IronY: weak | 18:15 |
| Timvde | LjL: can't mpv do that too? | 18:15 |
| IronY | ubLIX: Its a dumb front end consuming that JSON rest endpoint, the rest endpoint is good enough for ur needs though | 18:15 |
| IronY | ubLIX: the front end actually also uses web sockets and updates real time | 18:16 |
| LjL | Timvde, no idea, i use Newpipe sometimes, but i don't really know if it can "wait" for a live stream that hasn't started yet | 18:16 |
| LjL | anyway | 18:16 |
| LjL | total positive: 75538 | 18:16 |
| LjL | +1648, 3981 are in ICU, 25755 are in hospital, the rest self-isolating | 18:16 |
| Scarecr0w | I wanted to build a website to pad my resume that views the COVID statistics but so many developers are wayyy too damn fast lol. | 18:17 |
| LjL | this looks much less than yesterday | 18:17 |
| LjL | but their numbers are dodgy because of subtracting recoveries and deaths | 18:17 |
| LjL | deaths: +812 | 18:17 |
| LjL | recoveries: +1590, total 14720 | 18:17 |
| IronY | LjL: So if the numbers ARE correct, u have reached ur burnout rate and it should be looking up from here basically | 18:17 |
| LjL | "highest amount of recoveries since the emergency began", so indeed that will make the +positives smaller | 18:17 |
| LjL | %cases italy | 18:17 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: In all areas, Italy, there are 97689 cases, 10779 deaths (11.0% of cases), 13030 recoveries as of March 30, 16:04Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Italy for time series data. | 18:17 |
| bn_mobile | <rant>JS is evil, it's made browsing everywhere so much slower... all to what: shave 0.00002ms off modularized DOM rendering? and pushing functionality from server to client side? uhh, no, I like REST thank you </rant> | 18:18 |
| Timvde | LjL: apparently, no :( | 18:18 |
| ecks | +4,050 new cases is the lowest since March 17 | 18:18 |
| LjL | he said we were meant to transfer 6 patients to germany but couldn't because of a technical problem with sanitizing the airplane | 18:18 |
| Timvde | Livestream works, waiting for one doesn't | 18:18 |
| LjL | ecks, is that the true number for italy? | 18:18 |
| bn_mobile | ecks/LjL did you guys just double-submit right now? | 18:19 |
| LjL | bn_mobile, double-submit? | 18:19 |
| IronY | bn_mobile: As much as I respect that rant, I can tell you professionally that unless ur working for a government that actually by law needs to cater to 0.02% no one really cares we want to use fun technologies and we all have computers made in the last 5 years so the speed is negligible | 18:20 |
| ecks | 4050 new cases and 812 new deaths in Italy. 1,590 new recoveries | 18:20 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/worldnews: Taiwan says WHO not sharing coronavirus information it provides, pressing complaints (5011 votes) | 18:20 |
| CoronaBot | https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-taiwan-who-idUSKBN21H1AU | https://redd.it/frre0t | 18:20 |
| LjL | ecks, okay, thanks | 18:20 |
| IronY | how is Italy defining recovered | 18:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 16:13 UTC: /u/pixelcraftables: PCM-DPC dati forniti dal Ministero della Salute AGGIORNAMENTO 30/03/2020 ORE 17.00 POSITIVI AL nCov Totale | DIMESSI/ attualmente | GUARITI positivi Lombardia 11815 1330 11861 25006 111.057 Emilia Romagna 3779 351 6636 10766 50.990 Veneto 1633 356 5575 7564 99.941 Piemonte 2.985 452 4.218 7655 [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/ZTffAd | 18:21 |
| Brainstorm | πΈ World: +6085 cases (now 752734), +858 deaths (now 36214), +1590 recoveries (now 158687) πΈ Turkey: +1610 cases (now 10827), +37 deaths (now 168) πΈ Italy: +4050 cases (now 101739), +812 deaths (now 11591), +1590 recoveries (now 14620) πΉ Afghanistan: +25 cases (now 145) πΉ Algeria: +73 cases (now 584), +4 deaths (now 35) [... want %more?] | 18:21 |
| bn_mobile | IronY: sure, the problem is when *all* devs think like that, the browser essentially becomes unusable | 18:21 |
| LjL | IronY, don't know / don't care, i just want to see the number of news cases as ecks stated it instead of the one they give, because recoveries don't really mean anything to me, every country counts them differently, and i don't see how it makes any sense to give a "net" number of new positives with deaths+recoveries subtracted, unless they're just wanting to make the numbers sound lower | 18:21 |
| IronY | bn_mobile: no disagreement there! | 18:21 |
| IronY | LjL: Fair enough! | 18:22 |
| bn_mobile | woah, now seeing triple-posting | 18:22 |
| aradesh | death toll for the last 4 days in the UK have been: 181, 260, 209, 180. the last three days make it look like it's going down, but if 260 was just coincidentally higher than normal, it could be that this is a bit of an illusion | 18:22 |
| LjL | there have been 6550 people reported to police just yesterday for violating quarantine, some of which were positive | 18:23 |
| IronY | aradesh: in canada, ontario we define recovered by a 14 day time period, no tests even required | 18:23 |
| aradesh | but it's good that we haven't doubled how much we're going up each day over 4 days | 18:23 |
| IronY | aradesh: so I can assure u, you will never see reliable data from us on that metric | 18:23 |
| Timvde | LjL: "recoveries" is sort of relevant for us, because afaik we only test/count people that get into hospital | 18:23 |
| bn_mobile | double/triple submit/post . or is it irccloud again? :/ https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/hBpIDZt9/Screen%20Shot%202020-03-30%20at%2012.22.22%20PM.png https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/AyIhkbOG/Screen%20Shot%202020-03-30%20at%2012.20.20%20PM.png https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/fm2U2bhV/Screen%20Shot%202020-03-30%20at%2012.20.16%20PM.png | 18:23 |
| Timvde | So a recovery is an extra free spot in the hospital | 18:23 |
| LjL | bn_mobile, we certainly aren't doing that | 18:24 |
| LjL | Timvde, that's a good point. i don't really know what it means in italy though | 18:24 |
| LjL | he's also saying the ICU count is no longer as "remarkably" high as last week | 18:25 |
| Timvde | LjL: Although we have separate numbers for hospitalised/ICU cases, so /shrug | 18:26 |
| LjL | and he also wants to share the data about the worst affected region i.e. Lombardy, in particular in Lodi and Bergamo which have been the worst hit, the number of "infective respiratory events" for which emergency services have been called has gone down a lor, around 50% as much as around march 15 | 18:26 |
| LjL | (but what about Milan?) | 18:26 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 16:19 UTC: Eurozone: BrightHouse and Carluccio's fall into administration as coronavirus hits economy - business live β from r/WorldNews at 16:19: The United States is now the epicentre of the pandemic. Canada has every reason to be alarmed - The Globe and Mail β https://is.gd/uOmSRJ | 18:27 |
| LjL | 19829 tests today, 20.4% positive; 28004 yesterday, 18.6% positive, and milan is going up | 18:29 |
| LjL | i think this makes today's low number a bit suspicious | 18:29 |
| LjL | source is https://lab24.ilsole24ore.com/coronavirus/ | 18:30 |
| LjL | moomoo, he also says they're validating a few serology tests for antibodies and they want to use them to determine what the actual prevalence was/is, and hopefully figure out there's a way to herd immunity | 18:36 |
| LjL | ugh | 18:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 16:28 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Maryland issues strict penalties for stay-at-home order violations, USNS Comfort arrives in NYC [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/r2eQSg | 18:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 16:41 UTC: /u/slakmehl: Nolan Hicks su Twitter: "NYC coronavirus totals for 3/30am: Deaths: 790 - 3/29pm: 776 (+24) - 3/29am: 678 (+112) Cases: 36,221 - 3/29pm: 33,474 (+2,747) - 3/29am: 32,308 (+3,913) Cases by borough: - Queens: 11,868 - Brooklyn: 9,521 - The Bronx: 6,830 - Manhattan: 5,877 - Staten Island: 2,091" [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/O1Y7SD | 18:44 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 16:47 UTC: (news): Trump says US officials should have 'good idea' if malaria drug works on coronavirus in three days [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/njBF0S | 18:51 |
| yuriwho | LjL: herd immunity is predicted to require 70% immune for the Ro of this virus | 18:51 |
| aradesh | LjL: your feeling that germany's fatality rate is too good to be true might be proving itself to be right. on the 19th of march it was only 0.29% but since then it's crept up to 0.86%. i guess this could be related to how many tests germany are doing, and how it takes a while (perhaps as much as a month) from contraction, to dying | 18:52 |
| aradesh | with germany's very high testing rate, it could easily be that a lto of the people they're testing have only had it for a few days | 18:53 |
| LjL | aradesh, well that would still be good news if it's the correct interpretation | 18:55 |
| LjL | the more people already have it without us knowing, the more people are immune | 18:55 |
| LjL | although, also, the more people can be infected | 18:55 |
| LjL | but ultimately i can't imagine how we can possibly *not* all get it (or at least a majority) | 18:56 |
| LjL | so if many people have already have it without any real consequences... probably good | 18:56 |
| LjL | i know, "good" has a pretty low bar these days | 18:56 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 16:53 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Fed estimates staggering job losses, Maryland cracks down on stay-at-home order violators [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/r2eQSg | 18:57 |
| pwr22 | My desktop hosting CovBot keeps crashing... gonna have to migrate it to the cloud | 18:57 |
| sYN4P515 | pwr22 maybe i can host it on my server | 18:58 |
| sYN4P515 | is it python? | 18:58 |
| pwr22 | Thanks for the offer | 18:59 |
| pwr22 | It's also my whole matrix setup, some internal services, and my website as well | 18:59 |
| sYN4P515 | ahh, whole infrastructure | 19:00 |
| lf94 | > matrix | 19:00 |
| sYN4P515 | yep, better find a vps | 19:00 |
| sYN4P515 | i'm using linode, i think it's pretty good | 19:00 |
| LjL | pwr22, time to memtest86+? | 19:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 16:56 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Fed estimates staggering job losses, Maryland cracks down on stay-at-home violators β from r/WorldNews at 16:56: Tokyo's Sudden Rise in Coronavirus Infections After Olympic Delay Sparks Questions β https://is.gd/r2eQSg | 19:03 |
| IronY | LjL: sYN4P515 pwr22 https://docs.corona.lmao-xd.wtf/version-2 | 19:03 |
| IronY | not sure who owns that | 19:03 |
| IronY | but worth a look at | 19:03 |
| aradesh | maryland's locked down then i take it? | 19:04 |
| lf94 | When do you guys think we'll see the second wave of job losses? | 19:04 |
| lf94 | 2-3 weeks? Later? Never? | 19:04 |
| sYN4P515 | i prefer to build a model and then perform queries on the model, rather than using api | 19:04 |
| sYN4P515 | it's much faster | 19:04 |
| IronY | sYN4P515: ur just quering woldometers api my dude | 19:05 |
| aradesh | LjL: 2619 new cases in the UK today | 19:05 |
| sYN4P515 | IronY not true, i build a model first | 19:05 |
| LjL | aradesh, sort of linear, right? | 19:05 |
| aradesh | last 4 days, yeah | 19:05 |
| IronY | the people who supply ur data 'built your model' | 19:05 |
| aradesh | all fairly similar | 19:05 |
| IronY | ur aggregating | 19:05 |
| sYN4P515 | i created my own model with custom calculations etc | 19:06 |
| sYN4P515 | but i fill it using existing data yes | 19:06 |
| LjL | IronY, hmm it looks like it gets the daily data only though, based on things having a march 29 timestamp | 19:06 |
| Brainstorm | πΈ World: +591 cases (now 753325), +25 deaths (now 36239), +34 recoveries (now 158721) πΉ Afghanistan: +50 cases (now 170) πΉ Algeria: +73 cases (now 584), +4 deaths (now 35), +6 recoveries (now 37) πΉ Arizona, US: +238 cases (now 1157), +3 deaths (now 20) πΉ Austria: +143 cases (now 9520) πΉ Belize: +1 cases (now 3) πΉ Bolivia: +1 cases (now 97) [... want %more?] | 19:06 |
| IronY | LjL: Fair, I was curious on the historical part of it, real time jho is easy enough to parse directly, but if someone wanted to do the heavily lifting on historical data I am all game for that | 19:06 |
| LjL | aradesh, the doubling time (in the offloop graphs, anyway) is barely going up for the UK though. i'm not sure i understand the maths | 19:08 |
| IronY | Intel just emailed me: https://newsroom.intel.com/articles/intel-ceo-letter-customers-we-are-here-for-you/?cid=em&source=elo&campid=smg_WW_mbcbu_EN_2020_Letter%20from%20Bob%20Swan_C-MKA-16911_T-MKA-17657&content=smg_WW_mbcbu_EN_2020_Letter%20from%20Bob%20Swan_C-MKA-16911_T-MKA-17657&elq_cid=4363324&em_id=55850&elqrid=3e81ca668e424f0ca108d00aca9e4d51&elqcampid=36993&erpm_id=3023094#gs.1pl0xq | 19:08 |
| pwr22 | <sYN4P515 "i'm using linode, i think it's p"> Google have given me $300 free credit so that'll do for now | 19:08 |
| pwr22 | <LjL "pwr22, time to memtest86+?"> Probably, though the failure was so catastropic that there isn't even a panic | 19:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 17:06 UTC: FEMA sends refrigerator trucks to NYC to serve as temporary mortuaries for coronavirus victims: "To date, I still fear the worse is not going to be April but actually the beginning of May," Mayor Bill de Blasio said of coronavirus deaths in NYC. [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/sOMdBf | 19:09 |
| IronY | I assume intels position: 'Well now that there is a bug that exploits everyone, maybe they will focus less on the ones that are specific to our products' lol | 19:09 |
| aradesh | LjL: if you reduce the number of days it's averaged over it should... | 19:10 |
| aradesh | let's see | 19:11 |
| aradesh | i'm not sure what it's actually calculating eithe | 19:11 |
| LjL | hmm | 19:11 |
| LjL | aradesh, it's a bit perplexing how much faster you've reached linearity though compared to italy | 19:12 |
| aradesh | yeah maybe it's just a coincidence that it looks a little linear... | 19:12 |
| LjL | either our lockdown was a complete joke for a while longer... | 19:12 |
| aradesh | like maybe it's actually growing, and due to coincidences in the data it doesn't look so much like it | 19:12 |
| LjL | goooood lord | 19:13 |
| LjL | aradesh, if you show the italy and the uk graph together and switch to log scale, italy does look to have reached a lower attack rate or something | 19:13 |
| aradesh | i think we'll need a few more days data to really tell if UK is linear or not | 19:13 |
| LjL | well it's already 4 days i think | 19:14 |
| LjL | it has to mean something | 19:14 |
| ubLIX | wOw | 19:14 |
| LjL | maybe just that testing is limited, but hopefully not | 19:14 |
| yuriwho | 13:14 <yuriwho> fantastic Canadian tracker site: https://resources-covid19canada.hub.arcgis.com/ | 19:16 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 17:09 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Fed estimates staggering job losses, Maryland cracks down on stay-at-home violators β from r/WorldNews at 17:09: COVID-19: Hindus denied food supplies in Pakistan's Karachi β https://is.gd/r2eQSg | 19:18 |
| Brainstorm | πΈ World: +531 cases (now 753856), +47 deaths (now 36286), +61 recoveries (now 158782) πΈ US: +584 cases (now 146027), +38 deaths (now 2650), +5 recoveries (now 4579) πΉ Afghanistan: +50 cases (now 170) πΉ Algeria: +73 cases (now 584), +4 deaths (now 35), +6 recoveries (now 37) πΉ Arizona, US: +238 cases (now 1157), +3 deaths (now 20) [... want %more?] | 19:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 17:24 UTC: New York coronavirus: Gov. Cuomo welcomes USNS Comfort to NYC: New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo has repeatedly warned that the coronavirus epidemic in New York threatens to overwhelm the health-care system. β from r/WorldNews at 17:24: Denmark may gradually lift lockdown after Easter if coronavirus numbers stay stable. β https://is.gd/LJSH18 | 19:28 |
| LjL | yuriwho, huge link collection too | 19:30 |
| yuriwho | indeed | 19:31 |
| IronY | did google ever release their super fast website | 19:34 |
| IronY | the one that is faster then all previous websites ever | 19:34 |
| bin_bash | wat | 19:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 17:31 UTC: /u/slakmehl: Nate Silver su Twitter: "This would imply somewhere between 800K and 3.6m cases in the UK, as compared to a reported total of 22,000. That would mean cases had been undercounted by a magnitude of ~35x to ~160x.β¦ https://t.co/myhYZiQWf9" [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/lOXgak | 19:34 |
| IronY | bin_bash: lol, american press release from a few weeks ago regarding googles upcoming prescreening product I believe | 19:34 |
| bin_bash | i dont think i saw anything like that | 19:34 |
| IronY | I will defend the american president when he speaks numbers even if those numbers dont sit well with peoples anxiety levels, that how ever, was the funniest thing I have ever heard anyway say | 19:34 |
| LjL | IronY, they have a tracker that gets data from Wikipedia if that's the one you mean. Wikipedia *can* be faster than most other things i guess | 19:34 |
| IronY | anyone* | 19:35 |
| IronY | bin_bash: I think it was a low key jab at health.gov | 19:35 |
| IronY | but rather than say health.gov he said 'all the websites before it | 19:35 |
| bin_bash | Β―\_(γ)_/Β― find a link? | 19:36 |
| bin_bash | i mean i believe you | 19:36 |
| bin_bash | i just didnt see it | 19:36 |
| IronY | trying, it was from one of his addresses to the nations | 19:36 |
| IronY | 2 weeks ago? | 19:36 |
| Brainstorm | πΈ World: +5936 cases (now 759792), +578 deaths (now 36864), +1357 recoveries (now 160139) πΈ US: +5936 cases (now 151963), +160 deaths (now 2810), +632 recoveries (now 5211) πΈ New York, US: +5818 cases (now 66497), +155 deaths (now 1218) πΈ France: +418 deaths (now 3024), +725 recoveries (now 7927) πΉ Afghanistan: +50 cases (now 170) [... want %more?] | 19:36 |
| IronY | Will go rewatch a bunch of videos | 19:36 |
| IronY | here is a link on the topic though: https://www.vox.com/recode/2020/3/15/21180518/coronavirus-google-verily-website-testing-trump | 19:36 |
| IronY | it was the one that they showed this chart https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/z0nYRx5lesBZIGu_yzLa9rxYoFU=/1400x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/19799566/1206996908.jpg.jpg | 19:37 |
| bin_bash | lolol | 19:37 |
| tinwhiskers | IronY: regarding Canadian provinces, I thought they were already in, but if there's some issue let me know. | 19:38 |
| IronY | tinwhiskers: that link i posted earlier is provinces and cities | 19:38 |
| Atque | My brothers, sisters, friends, coronavirus is not here for you, no | 19:39 |
| IronY | oh thank god | 19:39 |
| IronY | ;) | 19:39 |
| tinwhiskers | I'm not sure what you're getting at IronY | 19:42 |
| tinwhiskers | You want cities added as well? | 19:42 |
| IronY | tinwhiskers: I had no expectations, was just sharing a link where said data can be grabbed from | 19:42 |
| tinwhiskers | Ah. Ok | 19:42 |
| tinwhiskers | Could you repost the link for my benefit? | 19:43 |
| Atque | Does anyone have good modelling of how long it will go on for? | 19:43 |
| IronY | tinwhiskers: https://firebasestorage.googleapis.com/v0/b/flatten-271620.appspot.com/o/confirmed_data.json?alt=media | 19:43 |
| IronY | Atque: no, anyone who tells u how long it will go on for is guessing | 19:45 |
| tinwhiskers | Atque that depends on how a country manages their response of course and is anywhere from about 4 months to indefinitely (until a vaccine is ready) | 19:45 |
| tinwhiskers | Thanks IronY | 19:45 |
| LjL | that Vox article makes everything sound pretty ridiculous... likely quite accurately | 19:45 |
| Atque | IronY: Yeah, some good modelling given some assumptions would be interesting though. | 19:45 |
| Atque | IronY: I could write a numerical model, but I've been lazy I guess. | 19:46 |
| IronY | Atque: Even with modeling, there is a lot of unknown variables that could make the model pull a 180, so it is all just educated guesses that are revised daily | 19:46 |
| IronY | Atque: I can confidently guess this will not be done by easter though :D | 19:46 |
| mefistofeles | Atque: plenty of modelling already | 19:46 |
| Atque | mefistofeles: Got some links? | 19:47 |
| mefistofeles | the more trusted ones are SEIR/SIER models, as far as I can see | 19:47 |
| mefistofeles | yes | 19:47 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 17:38 UTC: /u/slakmehl: kadhim (οΌΎο½°^)γ su Twitter: "New study from Imperial College London estimates 1.2%-5.4% of UK population has been infected by coronavirus so far https://t.co/P3uHae5jz9β¦ https://t.co/OTqSP1coBu" β from r/WorldNews at 17:38: Denmark may gradually lift lockdown after Easter if coronavirus numbers stay stable. β https://is.gd/PWO5Vx | 19:47 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 17:43 UTC: New York coronavirus: Gov. Cuomo welcomes USNS Comfort to NYC: New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo has repeatedly warned that the coronavirus epidemic in New York threatens to overwhelm the health-care system. β from r/WorldNews at 17:43: Denmark may gradually lift lockdown after Easter if coronavirus numbers stay stable. β https://is.gd/LJSH18 | 19:47 |
| mefistofeles | Atque: http://rocs.hu-berlin.de/corona/docs/model/ and http://open-source-covid-19.weileizeng.com/ are the best I've seen, imho | 19:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | germany 6000/d * 10% * 20d = 12000 < 30000 looks good | 19:49 |
| mefistofeles | I mean, the second has a whole lot of them | 19:49 |
| mefistofeles | but the first one is pretty in-depth | 19:49 |
| LjL | eep | 19:49 |
| LjL | they left | 19:49 |
| mefistofeles | oh hell | 19:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (numbers are uneducated huess by me) | 19:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | guess even | 19:50 |
| Brainstorm | πΈ World: +1071 cases (now 760863), +9 deaths (now 36873), +8 recoveries (now 160147) πΈ US: +668 cases (now 152631), +7 deaths (now 2817) πΈ Pennsylvania, US: +668 cases (now 4087), +7 deaths (now 48) πΉ Afghanistan: +50 cases (now 170) πΉ Algeria: +73 cases (now 584), +4 deaths (now 35), +6 recoveries (now 37) [... want %more?] | 19:51 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 17:49 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Fed estimates staggering job losses, Maryland cracks down on stay-at-home violators β from r/WorldNews at 17:49: Denmark may gradually lift lockdown after Easter if coronavirus numbers stay stable. β https://is.gd/r2eQSg | 19:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wait, worlf has less new deaths than USA and Algeria? | 19:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | interesting math | 19:53 |
| LjL | heh... i think they're not updated at the same time | 19:54 |
| LjL | %cases denmark | 19:54 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: In all areas, Denmark, there are 2577 cases, 77 deaths (3.0% of cases), 1 recoveries as of March 30, 17:48Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Denmark for time series data. | 19:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | is this "world (last 10 minutes), USA (yesterday) ..." ? | 19:54 |
| iz | wut? | 19:55 |
| iz | world +1071, usa +668, algeria +73 | 19:55 |
| LjL | DocScrutinizer05, it is whatever was added since the previous update (but it only gets posted when anything is > +500) | 19:55 |
| iz | 1071 <= 668+73 | 19:55 |
| iz | er, i mean, not less than | 19:55 |
| LjL | the curve for Denmark looks weird | 19:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | World, +9 deaths (now 36873) US: +7 deaths (now 2817) Algeria: +73 cases (now 584), +4 deaths (now 35) | 19:56 |
| LjL | iz, well just like with deaths, the world figure is not in sync with individual countries i think | 19:56 |
| iz | oh, deaths | 19:56 |
| LjL | plus there are many more countries that don't get listed in the message due to maximum length | 19:56 |
| LjL | they're listed roughly in order of cases. i guess tinwhiskers can explain why the World figure doesn't necessarily match what shows up for individual countries | 19:57 |
| tinwhiskers | I've noticed that a few times and it's puzzled me, but I've never looked into it | 19:57 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 17:54 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus US live: New York governor warns 'no American is immune to this virus' β from r/WorldNews at 17:54: Denmark may gradually lift lockdown after Easter if coronavirus numbers stay stable. β https://is.gd/e63eha | 19:58 |
| aradesh | about to watch this coronavirus update video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPeRF2mWi30 | 19:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 17:59 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: France sees worst daily death toll, Cuomo issues call for healthcare workers β from r/WorldNews at 17:59: Denmark may gradually lift lockdown after Easter if coronavirus numbers stay stable. β https://is.gd/r2eQSg | 20:05 |
| Brainstorm | πΈ World: +4600 cases (now 765463), +3 deaths (now 36876) πΈ France: +4376 cases (now 44550) πΉ Afghanistan: +50 cases (now 170) πΉ Algeria: +73 cases (now 584), +4 deaths (now 35), +6 recoveries (now 37) πΉ Argentina: +1 deaths (now 23) πΉ Arizona, US: +238 cases (now 1157), +3 deaths (now 20) πΉ Austria: +164 cases (now 9541) πΉ Belize: +1 cases (now 3) [... want %more?] | 20:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 18:09 UTC: /u/slakmehl: Geoff Bennett su Twitter: "BREAKING: Gov. Ralph Northam has issued a "stay at home" order for Virginia." β from r/WorldNews at 18:09: Downing Street says China faces a 'reckoning' over their handling of coronavirus and risks becoming a 'pariah state' as Boris Johnson faces pressure to scrap the Huawei deal β https://is.gd/GPkiuI | 20:11 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 18:13 UTC: (news): New York Gov. Cuomo issues nationwide call for doctors and nurses as state battles worst coronavirus outbreak in US β from r/WorldNews at 18:13: Downing Street says China faces a 'reckoning' over their handling of coronavirus and risks becoming a 'pariah state' as Boris Johnson faces pressure to scrap the Huawei deal β https://is.gd/znSoJy | 20:17 |
| python476 | o/ | 20:18 |
| lf94 | \o | 20:18 |
| IronY | \o | 20:18 |
| IronY | My morning standup this morning included someone saying: I am not feeling very well, at all | 20:18 |
| IronY | followed by 15 people being very silent for a few mins | 20:18 |
| aradesh | seems dominic cummings didn't run away from boris fast enough, as he is also now positive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o08l1kG8vuE | 20:20 |
| aradesh | funny him running away from 10 downing street with "boris tested positive" on the screen | 20:21 |
| Brainstorm | πΈ World: +3378 cases (now 768841), +45 deaths (now 36921), +33 recoveries (now 160180) πΈ US: +3250 cases (now 155969), +37 deaths (now 2854) πΈ New Jersey, US: +3250 cases (now 16636), +37 deaths (now 198) πΉ Afghanistan: +50 cases (now 170) πΉ Algeria: +73 cases (now 584), +4 deaths (now 35), +6 recoveries (now 37) πΉ Argentina: +1 deaths (now 23) [... want %more?] | 20:21 |
| lf94 | IronY: I wouldve laughed | 20:21 |
| lf94 | lol | 20:21 |
| IronY | lf94: the silence ended with 'better hope its not the covid!' | 20:21 |
| IronY | followed by more silence ;) | 20:21 |
| lf94 | lmfao | 20:22 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 18:20 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: France sees worst daily death toll, Cuomo issues call for healthcare workers β from r/WorldNews at 18:20: Downing Street says China faces a 'reckoning' over their handling of coronavirus and risks becoming a 'pariah state' as Boris Johnson faces pressure to scrap the Huawei deal β https://is.gd/r2eQSg | 20:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | LjL: anyway congrats, it seems italy new cases tapering down. There's a light at the end of the tunnel | 20:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | german new cases in sync btw | 20:25 |
| IronY | My metric for this is gonna be ok is when the news starts reporting about famous people telling normal people how to live their lifes | 20:26 |
| IronY | I want normal back, as much has I hated normal lol | 20:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | another two weeks and the corpse toll will taper down too | 20:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe even faster | 20:28 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 18:24 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: number of global cases passes 750,000 with death toll over 36,000 β from r/WorldNews at 18:24: Downing Street says China faces a 'reckoning' over their handling of coronavirus and risks becoming a 'pariah state' as Boris Johnson faces pressure to scrap the Huawei deal β https://is.gd/M8cBsP | 20:29 |
| IronY | I have developed a model on how non intelligent people are trying covid19 on social media | 20:32 |
| fltrz | do we know the timing distribution from PCR positive to hospitalized, for the hospitalized fraction of the population? alternatively from date of infection to date of hospitalization? | 20:32 |
| IronY | it has been refined over a period of multiple weeks | 20:32 |
| IronY | - 1: The world numbers are low, this is fake | 20:32 |
| IronY | - 2: The country numbers are low, this is fake | 20:32 |
| IronY | - 3: The province numbers are low, this is fake | 20:32 |
| IronY | - 4: The cities numbers are low, this is fake | 20:32 |
| IronY | - 5: A bunch of my friends are in the hospital my grandparents are dead why did the government not do more while they could! | 20:32 |
| LjL | DocScrutinizer05, eh... i had a good look at the data, i'm not convinced :( milan is getting worse, and there were fewer tests today than yesterday, and the actual percentage of positives found was higher | 20:33 |
| LjL | DocScrutinizer05, so i have a vague suspicion today's numbers are mostly due to lack of testing... and also, the civil protection was sounding overly optimistic, and their number of +1600 is what can i say... just made up, really, i don't see the meaning of that | 20:34 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/worldnews: Intensive Care For Coronavirus Patients Now Limited To Those 'Reasonably Certain' To Survive, NHS London Trust Concedes (5014 votes) | 20:34 |
| LjL | they always use that method, it's not new. but it made no sense yesterday and it still makes no sense today | 20:34 |
| CoronaBot | https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/29/intensive-care-coronavirus-patients-now-limited-reasonably-certain/ | https://redd.it/frn90a | 20:34 |
| LjL | :\ | 20:34 |
| IronY | negative things are going to start seeming positive due to our tolerance for what we consider to be negative increasing | 20:35 |
| IronY | humans are weird | 20:35 |
| LjL | well, i'm not sure we're all like that. my mom just had a breakdown | 20:35 |
| IronY | :/ | 20:35 |
| IronY | She ok? | 20:35 |
| LjL | i don't know what to say to her, she said this is too huge... she's right, it is | 20:35 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 18:32 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: France sees worst daily death toll, Cuomo issues call for healthcare workers β from r/WorldNews at 18:32: Downing Street says China faces a 'reckoning' over their handling of coronavirus and risks becoming a 'pariah state' as Boris Johnson faces pressure to scrap the Huawei deal β https://is.gd/r2eQSg | 20:35 |
| IronY | LjL: Yeah my gf is almost there | 20:35 |
| redpyramidthing| | anyone uses Notion.so? if so, can that someone create (and share URL of it) a database of FAQ/recommended actions related to covid? | 20:35 |
| LjL | well it passed for now, but it's not the first time. she said "my brain is melting" and honestly it feels like that from outside too | 20:35 |
| IronY | LjL: The worst part is here I am, talking with you, a resident of a very very impacted area, but still alt-tabing to other conversations that go 'This is not a big deal' | 20:36 |
| IronY | re my 5 point model | 20:36 |
| LjL | IronY, i'm pretty sure one reason i run this channel is 1) i have to feel i'm at least partially in control of this thing, and even though obviously having an irc channel controls next to nothing, that may be enough to trick my brain some of the time, and 2) i'd obsess with numbers and things anyway, at least this way i do so actively instead of just staring at websites and getting panic attacks | 20:38 |
| IronY | ^ | 20:39 |
| pwr22 | IT'S ALIVE | 20:39 |
| IronY | IRC and youtube videos about retro electronics are my coping mechanisms atm | 20:39 |
| pwr22 | !cases | 20:39 |
| kreyren | pwr22, tomato toast eh | 20:39 |
| CovBot | In World there have been a total of 768,937 cases as of 2020-03-30 18:28:00 UTC. Of these 571,772 (74.4%) are still sick or may have recovered without being recorded, 160,242 (20.8%) have definitely recovered and 36,923 (4.8%) have died. | 20:40 |
| pwr22 | CovBot, now with added cloud | 20:40 |
| orgg | It's hard not to overthink this all - Volunteering at our mens shelter leading health screenings gives me a feeling of more control and interaction - but at a much greater risk. | 20:41 |
| orgg | I have to say the experience has gotten me to Comfortably Numb to the situation - and not in a bad way. | 20:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 18:36 UTC: FEMA sends refrigerator trucks to NYC to serve as temporary mortuaries for coronavirus victims: "To date, I still fear the worse is not going to be April but actually the beginning of May," Mayor Bill de Blasio said of coronavirus deaths in NYC. [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/sOMdBf | 20:41 |
| python476 | IronY: techmoan ? | 20:44 |
| IronY | ? | 20:44 |
| LjL | it's a youtube channel | 20:45 |
| LjL | i probably shouldn't check it out or i'll start buying all the things again | 20:46 |
| LjL | python476, i know this video from him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CE_zmpHcWQ | 20:46 |
| LjL | %title | 20:46 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: From www.youtube.com: Auto-Reverse: The Hard Way - YouTube | 20:46 |
| python476 | yeah a brit who reviewed a shitload of rare vintage tech | 20:48 |
| IronY | ohh | 20:48 |
| IronY | I watch like 40 of em | 20:48 |
| python476 | there's also techconnection~ | 20:48 |
| IronY | and weirdly, their mostly brits | 20:48 |
| python476 | brintage | 20:49 |
| kreyren | did US just got +50K cases of covid-19 per day? | 20:49 |
| IronY | Which I am 100% cool with because information coming to me in a british accent is typically more entertaining/trust worthy | 20:49 |
| kreyren | are they even doing more then 50K tests? | 20:49 |
| IronY | %data us | 20:49 |
| Brainstorm | IronY: In all areas, US, there are 155969 cases, 2854 deaths (1.8% of cases), 5211 recoveries as of March 30, 18:28Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 20:49 |
| blkshp | WhatWhat, tally-ho old chap. | 20:49 |
| python476 | I should have made a few .. but I lack knowledge. I found a 50s camera (gave it to a HiFi collector) | 20:49 |
| IronY | MrNodeBot: covid19-stats us | 20:49 |
| MrNodeBot | 00π· United States of America - 2020-03-30 β 08153,246 Confirmed β 1212,360 +/- β 035,545 Cured β 122,880 +/- β 042,828 Dead β 12361 +/- | 20:49 |
| kreyren | wow | 20:50 |
| IronY | 12 < 50 | 20:50 |
| IronY | thankfully | 20:50 |
| python476 | so the China-data-is-fek trend is spreading | 20:50 |
| ryouma | what is the huawei | 20:50 |
| python476 | any counter argument for this ? | 20:50 |
| kreyren | 2,828 deaths.. they have more death then czechia has confirmed | 20:50 |
| IronY | python476: I think most of us with a half a mind assumed that at the start, is it now being discussed by everyone else? | 20:50 |
| kreyren | well almost | 20:51 |
| IronY | MrNodeBot: covid19-stats czechia | 20:51 |
| Brainstorm | πΈ World: +1582 cases (now 770423), +26 deaths (now 36947), +62 recoveries (now 160242) πΈ US: +509 cases (now 156478), +16 deaths (now 2870) πΈ Canada: +977 cases (now 7297), +2 deaths (now 67), +441 recoveries (now 1014) πΉ Afghanistan: +50 cases (now 170) πΉ Algeria: +73 cases (now 584), +4 deaths (now 35), +6 recoveries (now 37) πΉ Argentina: +1 deaths (now 23) [... want %more?] | 20:51 |
| LjL | kreyren, i don't see +50k per day, more like... 15-16k? | 20:51 |
| MrNodeBot | 00π· Czechia - 2020-03-30 β 082,942 Confirmed β 12125 +/- β 0325 Cured β 1214 +/- β 0423 Dead β 127 +/- | 20:51 |
| LjL | well, not counting *this* update perhaps | 20:51 |
| IronY | you have significantly lesser casses kreyren | 20:51 |
| LjL | IronY, what is your bot doing now | 20:51 |
| IronY | LjL: He is asking for the day to day diffs | 20:52 |
| kreyren | LjL, seems 15K yes i though i saw 100K yesterday | 20:52 |
| LjL | about 19k yesterday | 20:52 |
| kreyren | IronY, that's what i said USA has almost more deaths then czechia's confirmed covid-19 cases | 20:52 |
| IronY | ohh sorry | 20:53 |
| IronY | I thought I saw 'confirmed deaths' | 20:53 |
| IronY | that makes more sense | 20:53 |
| IronY | I was also curious how you all go about confirm someone is dead, but I am running off a little bit of sleep at this point ;) | 20:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 18:46 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: France sees worst daily death toll, Cuomo issues call for healthcare workers [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/r2eQSg | 20:54 |
| LjL | %cases france | 20:54 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: In all areas, France, there are 44550 cases, 3024 deaths (6.8% of cases), 7927 recoveries as of March 30, 18:49Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=France for time series data. | 20:54 |
| kreyren | IronY, Czechia's confirmed cases die in hospital mostly those found in home were confirmed by the astronauts (hygienics in hazmat suits) | 20:54 |
| IronY | the astronauts, love it | 20:55 |
| kreyren | IronY, from https://youtu.be/BfA02bMSz4A?t=185 xD | 20:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>have to feel i'm at least partially in control<< allegedly the reason for people shopping 7 times more toilet paper. At least when pooping in the locker they want to feel like they have to worry about absolutely nothing | 20:56 |
| orgg | Cured seems quite misleading... recovered perhaps. | 20:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | good luck to your mom, you and all poeple out there, stay tough it's not going to be endless, there's hope | 20:57 |
| kreyren | IronY, (provided reference is a comedy made by czech television) | 20:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | we're not in control of the weather too, but we know / learned how to cope with it | 20:58 |
| IronY | orgg: valid, will change that, thanks | 20:58 |
| orgg | no worries. not trying to be critical... | 20:59 |
| LjL | if you don't count countries that look too small to have statistically meaningful graphs, and also the ones that clearly tested more extensively, like iceland, i think the countries with the most infections per capita is switzerland, a close tie with spain | 20:59 |
| LjL | both higher than italy | 21:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 18:55 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Global oil demand evaporates, France sees worst daily death toll [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/r2eQSg | 21:00 |
| LjL | if you look at the sub-national data available on offloop though, then it's quite different | 21:00 |
| ubLIX | IronY: I don't have time to go into it right now, but give me 48 hours to look over your bot. In the meantime could you pm me with an overview of MrNodeBot's behaviour and output? Thank you. | 21:01 |
| IronY | ubLIX: https://www.github.com/funsocietyirc/mrnodebot, i am fine with you muting the bot, it never auto posts stuff i just have it here to collect useful links from various covid channels | 21:03 |
| IronY | the only reason it talked was someone asked for a diff, i attempted to use the commands I know to get the data first | 21:03 |
| IronY | when that failed | 21:03 |
| IronY | I used one I knew would give me the data i wanted | 21:03 |
| IronY | re: the daily diffs between yesterday and today by country / region | 21:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | LjL: https://sites.google.com/view/covid19-intel/europe/italy looks reliable | 21:04 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/worldnews: Dutch museum says Vincent van Gogh painting stolen in overnight raid (5027 votes) | 21:04 |
| CoronaBot | https://www.sfchronicle.com/news/world/article/Alert-Dutch-museum-says-Vincent-van-Gogh-15165866.php | https://redd.it/frqppq | 21:04 |
| IronY | (Should point out my bot is actually registered with freenode, has been running for over 4 years, and is 100% available for you to audit) but there is no rush, I am more then content with just being able to aggregate links | 21:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 19:02 UTC: Dr. Birx predicts up to 200,000 U.S. coronavirus deaths 'if we do things almost perfectly': "I think in some of the metro areas we were late in getting people to follow the 15-day guidelines," the White House coronavirus response coordinator said on "TODAY." [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/ShlNqG | 21:06 |
| d3c0d3d | !covid19 | 21:06 |
| LjL | IronY, imo it's not a matter of transparency here, it's just bot, it's more that yesterday already it was close to getting out of hand with three bots, each person expressed different and incompatible preferences on what the bots' output should look like and what they should or shouldn't do in the first place. right now d3c0d3d above used a command that's probably not right for any of the bot (sorry d3c0d3d, it's not you, you just get caught in!) | 21:10 |
| LjL | it's just bots* | 21:11 |
| IronY | LjL: Oh I totally agree, for example I am not a fan of the one that is using worldometer data | 21:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | as a genersal rule, no bots on freenode chans without permission by chan owner | 21:12 |
| IronY | and I love the one that tells me will all be fine, but yeah like i said, i just wanna collect links, if ur all good with that, we do not even need to discuss it further I have no issue with the +q to keep people from using it in the channel | 21:12 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 19:06 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Global oil demand evaporates, France sees worst daily death toll β from r/WorldNews at 19:06: Wuhan Residents Dismiss Official Coronavirus Death Toll: βThe Incinerators Have Been Working Around the Clockβ β https://is.gd/r2eQSg | 21:12 |
| IronY | DocScrutinizer05: I went over it with mefistofeles first | 21:12 |
| LjL | IronY, i am fine with the silent link collection | 21:12 |
| IronY | ^ then we are golden | 21:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | just quoting generic FN rules, obviously it's up to chan owner to enforce (or not enforve) any of those rules | 21:13 |
| IronY | Yeah ur actually supposed to register then occasionally to depending on scope | 21:13 |
| IronY | hence the host mask that bot has | 21:13 |
| IronY | but if its ONLy in channels u own, not so much | 21:13 |
| IronY | My FB status update for the day: | 21:15 |
| IronY | "I just want congratulate all the people who have become Doctors, Epidemiologists, statisticians, politicians, and every other profession under the sun in less than 2 weeks." | 21:15 |
| d3c0d3d | Lol | 21:16 |
| lf94 | lmfao | 21:16 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 19:06 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: number of global cases passes 750,000 with death toll over 36,000 [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/M8cBsP | 21:18 |
| oxalis | I'm so happy all the celebrities and politicians in the USA somehow manage to get CovSARS-2 tests... Nobody else seems to be able to | 21:19 |
| IronY | oxalis: My PMS wife caught it, went radio silent for 17 days, then released a video where she is looking banging hot saying shes all good now | 21:19 |
| dunnp | PMS wife? | 21:20 |
| IronY | Prime Ministers | 21:20 |
| dunnp | oh | 21:20 |
| IronY | she was patient 3 in my city (Capital) | 21:20 |
| IronY | A local retailer of ours (essential) is not taking returns at the moment or exchanges | 21:21 |
| IronY | Somewhere out there, Karen has managed to speak to that stores managers, the manager of the company, the manager of the WHO, and what ever higher power they believe in | 21:22 |
| Raf[m] | > oxalis: My PMS wife caught it, went radio silent for 17 days, then released a video where she is looking banging hot saying shes all good now | 21:24 |
| Raf[m] | PMS means something else especially in the context of a woman | 21:24 |
| d3c0d3d | They say they have put restrictions on the consumption of wild animals in China but in practice it is impossible to get to that. | 21:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 19:06 UTC: (news): Cuomo says he doesn't want to fight with Trump over politics in coronavirus response: 'I think it's anti-American' [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/hK8Men | 21:25 |
| d3c0d3d | I think the solution should have been the complete closure of airports from the beginning. This shows how fragile it is to spread a virus. | 21:26 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 19:23 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: number of global cases passes 750,000 with death toll over 36,000 β from r/WorldNews at 19:23: Coronavirus: One in four NHS doctors 'sick or in isolation' β https://is.gd/M8cBsP | 21:31 |
| kreyren | Czech republic is currently experimenting with "smart quarantine" in south moravian region which tracks it's citizens via a phone and based on contact with the infected invidual for period longer then 15minutes and on shorter distance then 2 meters are tracked and required for blood tests and mandatory quarantine on 14 days. | 21:32 |
| kreyren | Message of czech's PM to Donald trump https://twitter.com/AndrejBabis/status/1244147274298654720 | 21:33 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/worldnews: UK's Prince Charles, 71, out of self-isolation and in good health (5001 votes) | 21:35 |
| CoronaBot | https://in.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-britain-charles/uks-prince-charles-71-out-of-self-isolation-and-in-good-health-idINKBN21H1Q8 | https://redd.it/frq45w | 21:35 |
| orgg | if only all the homeless I were dealing with had phones... and that would never go over privacy wise here. | 21:35 |
| Brainstorm | πΈ World: +1813 cases (now 772236), +60 deaths (now 37007) πΈ US: +1812 cases (now 158290), +60 deaths (now 2930) πΈ Michigan, US: +1012 cases (now 6498), +52 deaths (now 184) πΉ Afghanistan: +50 cases (now 170) πΉ Algeria: +73 cases (now 584), +4 deaths (now 35), +6 recoveries (now 37) πΉ Argentina: +1 deaths (now 23) [... want %more?] | 21:36 |
| orgg | and the issue with said "smart" quarantine really is that the easiest way around it? leave your phone at home. | 21:36 |
| Arsanerit | orgg: how about cameras with facial recognition? | 21:37 |
| Arsanerit | orgg: Germany wants to introduce that, but only voluntarily. | 21:37 |
| Arsanerit | Not the facial recognition thing, but the smartphone thing. | 21:38 |
| bin_bash | how the hell would it be voluntary | 21:38 |
| orgg | Arsanerit: technically - obviously somewhat possible - with other ways around that. | 21:38 |
| orgg | and there aren't that many cameras in the US :) | 21:38 |
| orgg | we drive cars too - not just ride bikes :P | 21:38 |
| Arsanerit | cars are even easier to track | 21:39 |
| Arsanerit | also cameras can recognise face of driver | 21:39 |
| Arsanerit | question is can they still when driver is wearing a medical mask? :) Search Results | 21:39 |
| orgg | a point I was making in a way - automated license plate readers would be more accurate - but that's tied to the registered owner of the vehicle. | 21:39 |
| Arsanerit | Web results | 21:39 |
| orgg | not who's driving | 21:39 |
| Arsanerit | π·oops | 21:39 |
| LjL | this is probably valuable data, which i probably cannot really read https://www.euromomo.eu/ | 21:40 |
| LjL | %title | 21:40 |
| Arsanerit | question is can they still when driver is wearing a medical mask? :) π· | 21:40 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: From www.euromomo.eu: EURO MOMO | 21:40 |
| LjL | well, it's about monitoring abnormal mortality rates in Europe | 21:40 |
| orgg | Arsanerit: my latest iPhone XS Max can't... it's REALLY annoying actually the last week in one, trying to use phone in gloves sometimes. | 21:40 |
| Arsanerit | can't what? | 21:41 |
| orgg | and your point stands - I could just wear my mask home - good luck facial recognition | 21:41 |
| Arsanerit | can't recognise your phase when you wear your mask? | 21:41 |
| orgg | recognize me in an N95 mask | 21:41 |
| Arsanerit | You have an N95 mask? | 21:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | LjL: sounds like one of the best, least susceptible to noise factors like number of tests done, metrics | 21:42 |
| orgg | I'm leading a team of volunteers doing health screenings at our homeless shelter. | 21:42 |
| orgg | so yes... | 21:42 |
| orgg | I see over 100 homeless each day and have for the last week | 21:42 |
| Arsanerit | Aha. | 21:42 |
| Arsanerit | Good. | 21:42 |
| Arsanerit | Very good :) | 21:43 |
| orgg | but the masks really mess up facial recognition | 21:43 |
| orgg | and I have quite a long pin on my phone. | 21:43 |
| LjL | DocScrutinizer05, right, that's pretty much why it was brought up, i was saying that (my dad said that) we should look at all-cause mortality compared to average mortality. but we though there was little worldwide realtime data on that. on the other hand, there was this Corriere article being discussed where in a small town near one of the worst-affected areas in Lombardy, all-cause deaths were spiking much more than by just the COVID deaths. apparently | 21:43 |
| LjL | these graphs do not completely support that, though | 21:43 |
| orgg | and hand sanitizer between glove changes eventually makes using a touchscreen nearly fucking impossible. | 21:44 |
| pwr22 | <IronY "My morning standup this morning "> Someone in mine said they were ill at the end of last week | 21:44 |
| eleklytr[m] | %data usa | 21:44 |
| Brainstorm | eleklytr[m]: In all areas, US, there are 158290 cases, 2930 deaths (1.9% of cases), 5211 recoveries as of March 30, 19:33Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 21:44 |
| LjL | DocScrutinizer05, what i seem to see from the graphs, which matches the summary at the top, is that there is no significant change in Europe compared to what you'd expect, with the exception of Italy. but even Italy's spike is modest compared to things that happened (who knows what?) around 2016 and 2018 | 21:44 |
| IronY | pwr22: keeping tabs on em? | 21:44 |
| pwr22 | <kreyren "pwr22, tomato toast eh"> ? | 21:44 |
| orgg | We're also giving out surgical masks to guests that require / want them... so the facial recognition sort of goes down the tube there. Those aren't in as short of supply. | 21:45 |
| eleklytr[m] | !casess usa | 21:45 |
| eleklytr[m] | * !cases usa | 21:46 |
| CovBot | In United States there have been a total of 156,690 cases as of 2020-03-30 19:00:00 UTC. Of these 148,609 (94.8%) are still sick or may have recovered without being recorded, 5,211 (3.3%) have definitely recovered and 2,870 (1.8%) have died. | 21:46 |
| orgg | why do we need so much damned botspam in here? | 21:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | LjL: it's for sure incredibly complex. Look just for example at the lower rate of normal flu incidents thanks to NPI done for corona. But also the rising number of violence and suicides. The number of people that die because their doctor had no more time to take care about them, even while (or because) they are not infected by corona | 21:47 |
| Arsanerit | There are less street robberies. | 21:47 |
| IronY | orgg: because this is a channel dedicated to a global pandemic, people are comforted by information | 21:47 |
| eleklytr[m] | !cases italy | 21:47 |
| Arsanerit | There are less burglaries. | 21:47 |
| IronY | orgg: there are a lot of chat channels on free node | 21:47 |
| orgg | IronY: says the one with the cured bot. | 21:48 |
| orgg | enough of you | 21:48 |
| Arsanerit | IronY: even if the information isn't very reliable? | 21:48 |
| CovBot | In Italy there have been a total of 101,739 cases as of 2020-03-30 19:00:00 UTC. Of these 75,528 (74.2%) are still sick or may have recovered without being recorded, 14,620 (14.4%) have definitely recovered and 11,591 (11.4%) have died. | 21:48 |
| IronY | Arsanerit: No information is overly reliable right now | 21:48 |
| IronY | but yes | 21:48 |
| Arsanerit | %cases belarus | 21:48 |
| Brainstorm | Arsanerit: In all areas, Belarus, there are 152 cases, 0 deaths (0.0% of cases), 32 recoveries as of March 30, 19:33Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Belarus for time series data. | 21:48 |
| Arsanerit | %cases north korea | 21:48 |
| Brainstorm | Arsanerit: Sorry, north korea not found. Either there aren't cases, or it's under a different name. | 21:48 |
| Arsanerit | %cases international conveyance | 21:48 |
| Brainstorm | Arsanerit: Sorry, international conveyance not found. Either there aren't cases, or it's under a different name. | 21:48 |
| IronY | orgg: Maybe go join one of the 10000000 channels that are full of detached screen sessions on freenode, you'll have a good ol time | 21:48 |
| Arsanerit | who still uses screen over a decade after tmux came out? | 21:49 |
| IronY | Arsanerit: people who connected to freenode 10 years ago | 21:49 |
| orgg | IronY: Wow, why are you attacking me over botspam - that could be queried via msg just fine? | 21:49 |
| Arsanerit | IronY: hmm, 10 year uptime IRC clients? | 21:49 |
| orgg | it makes conversation difficult. | 21:49 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 19:47 UTC: /u/slakmehl: Greg Miller su Twitter: "DOJ is investigating Senator Burr's stock trades amid coronavirus outbreak. The intel committee chairman dumped roughly $1M in shares after a private briefing for lawmakers, before the public knew scale of pandemic. @DevlinBarrett https://t.co/uzulMsurwt" [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/uLx1G4 | 21:49 |
| Arsanerit | peace! | 21:50 |
| IronY | orgg: You are attacking the official channels bots over botspam lol, the mental gymnastics is palpable | 21:50 |
| Arsanerit | Does Brainstorm select /r/WorldNews for corona news or does it assume everythin on /r/WorldNews is corona? | 21:50 |
| kreyren | pwr22 u said IT's ALIVE when i was watching bon apetit show "it's alive" | 21:50 |
| orgg | IronY: this isn't an official channel | 21:50 |
| IronY | LjL: I think you got some new trolls | 21:50 |
| d3c0d3d | ironΓa: Lol | 21:50 |
| Arsanerit | orgg is a good guy and not a troll | 21:50 |
| IronY | ur both trolls clearly | 21:51 |
| Arsanerit | He lent me his bike when I was in his city | 21:51 |
| orgg | Says the person who uses leetspeek for his account | 21:51 |
| orgg | quite ironic. | 21:51 |
| IronY | And yet you continue on proving my point | 21:51 |
| Arsanerit | Anyone who lends out their bike must be a good person. | 21:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | orgg: IronY: please stop this | 21:51 |
| Arsanerit | Now stop bickering all of you and learn to stop worrying and love the virus. | 21:51 |
| IronY | DocScrutinizer05: ^ | 21:51 |
| IronY | DocScrutinizer05: Just trying to get the ops attention, they have a way of multiplying fast | 21:52 |
| Arsanerit | He's not a troll, neither am I. | 21:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | IRC conversation is difficult. you can't transport a wink, a smile, a confused frown | 21:53 |
| KindOne | DocScrutinizer05: emojis can fix that /sarcasm | 21:54 |
| IronY | DocScrutinizer05: Normally I agree, but 'love the virus" was the nail in that coffin on my doubts | 21:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | we're all stressed, please all try to keep it friendly | 21:54 |
| d3c0d3d | Why argue? They can just ignore each other | 21:54 |
| IronY | you can also ignore the bots if you don't like the 'botspam' ;) | 21:55 |
| sh4d0wme[m] | If the overall total numbers of deaths do not increase over the average, in a given nation during a specific time, what does that mean? https://www.euromomo.eu/outputs/zscore_country_total.html | 21:57 |
| IronY | sh4d0wme[m]: do the number of infected increase? | 21:58 |
| sh4d0wme[m] | Coronaviruses are very common; all relies on the testing and how it is performed. How do you define a correct testing procedure? | 22:01 |
| IronY | No idea, that is an answer for someone with a PHD in the field that would apply to | 22:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 19:55 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: number of global cases passes 750,000 with death toll over 36,000 β from r/WorldNews at 19:55: More than 150,000 people have recovered from coronavirus around the world β https://is.gd/M8cBsP | 22:02 |
| tinwhiskers | sh4d0wme[m]: "correct" is in the eye of the beholder and what the CDC says might differ from what a another country says, but it should be as reliable as possible (low false-positive, false-negative), simple to use without making mistakes, quick, scalable and reasonably cheap. | 22:05 |
| bin_bash | like a pregnancy test in its perfect state | 22:05 |
| IronY | lol | 22:06 |
| tinwhiskers | the kits come with a bunch of stuff like swabs, containers, etc. to simplify the process, but the same test can be done by labs using their bulk equipment and reagents | 22:06 |
| tinwhiskers | however, the labs' tests may not be accepted as they are not the approved method even though they may be more accurate. | 22:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Italy Live* at 20:05 UTC: /u/pixelcraftables: Zingaretti Γ¨ guarito dal coronavirus. β from r/WorldNews at 20:05: More than 150,000 people have recovered from coronavirus around the world β https://is.gd/nqGjUx | 22:08 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/worldnews: Nearly 12,300 Spanish health workers have coronavirus (5075 votes) | 22:11 |
| CoronaBot | https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-spain-workers/nearly-12300-spanish-health-workers-have-coronavirus-idUKKBN21H1HZ?il=0 | https://redd.it/froqhb | 22:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | regarding tests done with swab - you MUST take the sample on **the back of your throat**, not cheek, tongue or anything else | 22:12 |
| IronY | would it not be easier to properly jab a thing up ur nose until ur eyes start to water | 22:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | basically that's what is done | 22:12 |
| IronY | happen to know the science behind that, as in, why it needs to be so so so deep in the nasal cavity | 22:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | "?" ? | 22:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | is that a question? | 22:13 |
| tinwhiskers | There's more virus there. | 22:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if so the answer is yes | 22:14 |
| IronY | ^ that was the answer i was looking for | 22:14 |
| IronY | lol | 22:14 |
| tinwhiskers | you don't *HAVE* to take it from there, but if you don't you risk a false negative | 22:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the virus is only found on back of your throat | 22:14 |
| IronY | DocScrutinizer05: and supposedly the male genitalia | 22:14 |
| IronY | I will settle with the back of the throat | 22:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | behind the uvula | 22:15 |
| tinwhiskers | there's still *some* in the mouth | 22:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | tinwhiskers: unreliable | 22:15 |
| tinwhiskers | yeah, as I said | 22:15 |
| tinwhiskers | but it's not entirely absent there | 22:15 |
| IronY | but it could potentially be given a specific / sensitive enough test being designed | 22:16 |
| tinwhiskers | PCR is already very sensitive | 22:16 |
| bn_mobile | hopefully good news? https://finance.yahoo.com/video/cuomo-rate-hospitalizations-decreasing-192407966.html | 22:17 |
| IronY | bn_mobile: when a finance website reports positive news the agenda i normally to stop those red lines going lower | 22:17 |
| IronY | imo anyway | 22:17 |
| dunnp | ugh I can't work | 22:19 |
| IronY | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UdyvTaiSF8 | 22:20 |
| IronY | %title | 22:20 |
| Brainstorm | IronY: From www.youtube.com: 'It's a very scary feeling,' says Canadian woman with COVID-19 - YouTube | 22:20 |
| Brainstorm | πΈ World: +3775 cases (now 776011), +93 deaths (now 37100), +4298 recoveries (now 164540) πΈ US: +1399 cases (now 159689), +21 deaths (now 2951), +9 recoveries (now 5220) πΈ Massachusetts, US: +797 cases (now 5752), +8 deaths (now 56) πΈ Germany: +2196 cases (now 66125), +56 deaths (now 616), +4289 recoveries (now 13500) πΉ Afghanistan: +50 cases (now 170) [... want %more?] | 22:21 |
| rowe | What's in the link? | 22:24 |
| ubLIX | a screengrab of a tweet about draconian government measures in Hungary | 22:25 |
| sh4d0wme[m] | And once you "see" the presence of the virus with a PCR based method, assuming that it is designed properly, with the right probes, and executed well, how do you dtermine causation vs cocausation vs coincidence? | 22:26 |
| IronY | If the US/Canada put the "Spreading fake news gets u 5 years in prison" | 22:26 |
| IronY | we would probably just have to make the whole continent a prison | 22:26 |
| LeanderMint | Hello | 22:26 |
| dosch[m] | yeah, hello as well. Sorry to enter with a image. Just stumbled over it and it made my jaw drop | 22:27 |
| ubLIX | dosch[m]: a verifiable source would have been better | 22:29 |
| dosch[m] | <ubLIX "dosch: a verifiable source would"> true, but I bet you can verify this news... | 22:30 |
| IronY | not sure on the reliability of said source | 22:30 |
| IronY | https://www.dw.com/en/hungary-passes-law-allowing-viktor-orban-to-rule-by-decree/a-52956243 | 22:30 |
| IronY | https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/30/europe/hungary-viktor-orban-powers-vote-intl/index.html | 22:30 |
| IronY | now we gotta keep an eye on hungary to see if there is massive revolution | 22:31 |
| IronY | %data hungary | 22:31 |
| Brainstorm | IronY: In all areas, Hungary, there are 447 cases, 15 deaths (3.4% of cases), 34 recoveries as of March 30, 20:16Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Hungary for time series data. | 22:31 |
| IronY | gonna be a hard pill to swallow for the general pop at those kind of numbers | 22:31 |
| dosch[m] | <IronY "now we gotta keep an eye on hung"> well, the airplane traffic is down a lot, so no chemtrailing can happen to keep the masses down. | 22:33 |
| dosch[m] | just kiddin' | 22:33 |
| IronY | :P | 22:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 20:31 UTC: /u/slakmehl: John Burn-Murdoch su Twitter: "NEW: Monday 30 March update of coronavirus mortality trajectories β’ US deaths doubling every 3 days, as Fauci predicts over 100k US deaths. How different could things have been if US had locked down like China? β’ UK still tracking Italy Live version: [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/TrGjCK | 22:33 |
| IronY | dosch[m]: are you guys a armed society | 22:33 |
| dosch[m] | most of us have both arms yes | 22:33 |
| Jigsy | Heh. | 22:33 |
| IronY | lool | 22:33 |
| Jigsy | Someone in the UK got a summons for buying "non-essential groceries." | 22:34 |
| tinwhiskers | sh4d0wme[m]: well, having a standardised method, and always taking swabs from the back of the throat helps ensure that. If it's just contamination then the load will be lower and will take longer to build up in the PCR, in which case you might test again I guess. | 22:34 |
| ryouma | npi? | 22:35 |
| airgap | apparently google is forcing some people to answer covid-19 questions before they receive content. | 22:35 |
| ryouma | i assume you mean nasopharynx | 22:35 |
| ryouma | airgap: almost a random sample of google-using cookie-using single-device-using internet users | 22:36 |
| airgap | https://twitter.com/David_Ingram/status/1244717614624124933?s=20 | 22:37 |
| ryouma | my browser does not do twitter | 22:37 |
| airgap | in case you didn't know, the urls will load without javascript | 22:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ((hungary)) Orban just doing what they do since years: transform hungary into a dictatorship again | 22:38 |
| ryouma | is there a game yet that is like that one where you are the virus except you are in control of a country at will or the world and you have options of what to lock down and what to deliver disease-appropriate foods and medicines to and so on, with data about culture of each country? | 22:39 |
| ggz | is the UK still using the herd immunity strategy ? | 22:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | err, no | 22:40 |
| sh4d0wme[m] | tinwhiskers: PCR is extremely sensitive. I would be more concerned with false positives, than negatives, even more whether whatever you detect with that PCR test is really the cause of the death | 22:40 |
| ggz | ryouma: how can a virus control the lockdown and supply of drugs ? | 22:41 |
| ryouma | ggz: their document leaked and they did a 180 | 22:41 |
| ryouma | ggz: you are not the virus | 22:41 |
| zokos | !corona | 22:41 |
| CoronaBot | Total cases: 775,540 (+52,150), deaths: 37,091 (+3,026), recovered: 164,541. Active cases: 573,908, 544,442 are in a mild condition, 29,466 are in a serious condition. Mortality: 4.78%, case fatality rate: 18.40%. Case rate: 60,263/day, death rate: 3,204/day. Last update: 25m ago. | 22:41 |
| tinwhiskers | sh4d0wme[m]: you have clinical signs as well like the lung damage | 22:41 |
| ryouma | ggz: you are political leaders, advisers, etc. | 22:41 |
| ggz | ryouma: could be interesting, i don't know such a game | 22:41 |
| ryouma | basically a simulation of reality | 22:41 |
| ryouma | except you have control | 22:41 |
| tinwhiskers | sh4d0wme[m]: also, it seems that we are getting quite a few false negatives. | 22:42 |
| ggz | i bet there will be a game like that in short time =) dozens of games on virus | 22:42 |
| sh4d0wme[m] | tinwhiskers: with no other possible causes, or -almost always- with a flood of other crucial co-causes?? | 22:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ggz: such game would be detrimental to education/awareness of global population since for most of the measures you could take there is no reliable data regarding their efficiency. So the game comes up with "solutions" that fail epically in real life | 22:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | err ryouma ^^^ | 22:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ryouma: that's the major problem all modelers and models meant to manage the pandemia are facing right now | 22:46 |
| ggz | DocScrutinizer05: yeah but it's a bit like the game civilisation, not useful for reallife politics but fun | 22:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, arguable. I'd conceive it as rather zynical | 22:47 |
| tinwhiskers | sh4d0wme[m]: I don't know what you mean, but there's always going to be cases where people die from causes other than the virus and also happen to have the virus (e.g. getting hit by a bus). The cause of death is ultimately made by the medical staff based on the evidence but you're bound to get some cases ascribed to covid-19 that aren't actually a direct consequence of it. | 22:48 |
| ryouma | well we could put data about what countries did and what results they had. but still thre is insuffcicient data. | 22:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | cynical even | 22:49 |
| ryouma | also a lot of sick folk who don't want to bother their physiciand because physician bisy with covid-19 then they die. or cen't get medicine becuae they have sle and everybody ohards hydroxychloroquine. | 22:50 |
| ggz | tinwhiskers: what if the fever distracted the person so he was hit by a bus ? | 22:50 |
| aradesh | lol https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EURIyy0X0AITMnb?format=jpg&name=large | 22:50 |
| tinwhiskers | ggz: yeah, so as I said, "The cause of death is ultimately made by the medical staff based on the evidence but you're bound to get some cases ascribed to covid-19 that aren't actually a direct consequence of it." | 22:51 |
| tinwhiskers | or vice versa | 22:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for example the efficiency of a lockdown is getting discussed quite controversial, since it obviously wouldn't help a lot for further stopping spread of infection *IF* and only if a 2mdistance/wear-masks general rule was obeyed a 99% | 22:51 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 20:39 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia update live: government to subsidise wages for 6 million workers in $130bn plan β latest news β from r/WorldNews at 20:39: Chinese wet markets in Wuhan come back to life selling bats and other animals β https://is.gd/0yTG1y | 22:51 |
| ggz | but what if a previous bus hit was responsible for risky behavior, make him catch the virus, then distracted by the fever, hit a second time by a bus and die | 22:52 |
| ubLIX | ggz... | 22:53 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/worldnews: Coronavirus: Saudi's King Salman Orders Treatment For All, Including Visa Violators (5000 votes) | 22:53 |
| CoronaBot | https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/gulf/2020/03/30/Coronavirus-Saudi-s-King-Salman-orders-treatment-for-all-including-visa-violators.html | https://redd.it/frqgwu | 22:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | a lockdown that basically only applies to your leisure time while you're still supposed to go to work is a lame joke and really not worth the air to speak for communicating it | 22:53 |
| LjL | DocScrutinizer05, yeah, i think that's why Italy took so long to even show signs of improvement... our initial lockdown was still having people take public transport and go to work | 22:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | exactly | 22:54 |
| LjL | although i think supermarket queues will be enough to make the curve not flatten, even now | 22:54 |
| ggz | ubLIX: i am illustrating an example in a more general moral philosphic inquiry, is there a problem ? | 22:54 |
| ubLIX | your philosophic enquiry is tiptoeing off topic | 22:56 |
| ryouma | did china do delivery right? | 22:56 |
| ryouma | seems that is a big part of the whole solution | 22:57 |
| ggz | ok i go back to my philo channel if that's what it is | 22:57 |
| tinwhiskers | ryouma: I saw some videos of delivery people handing over goods, so I don't think they id it properly but it seems they mostly did it right. | 22:57 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 20:50 UTC: /u/slakmehl: Axios su Twitter: "JUST IN: Washington, D.C. joins Virginia and Maryland in issuing stay-at-home orders to stop the spread of the coronavirus. https://t.co/eJTkA5Ij72" β from r/WorldNews at 20:50: Chinese wet markets in Wuhan come back to life selling bats and other animals β https://is.gd/21tafG | 22:58 |
| aradesh | new record for france today, 418 fatalities :\ | 22:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>supermarket queues will be enough to make the curve not flatten<< if anything, that's next to tackle when readjusting measures | 23:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 20:51 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia update live: government to subsidise wages for 6 million workers in $130bn plan β latest news β from r/WorldNews at 20:51: Chinese wet markets in Wuhan come back to life selling bats and other animals β https://is.gd/0yTG1y | 23:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wet market (SIC!) \o/ | 23:05 |
| Brainstorm | πΈ World: +565 cases (now 776576), +35 deaths (now 37135), +87 recoveries (now 164627) πΉ Afghanistan: +50 cases (now 170) πΉ Alabama, US: +32 cases (now 859) πΉ Algeria: +73 cases (now 584), +4 deaths (now 35), +6 recoveries (now 37) πΉ Argentina: +1 deaths (now 23) πΉ Arizona, US: +238 cases (now 1157), +3 deaths (now 20) πΉ Austria: +220 cases (now 9597) [... want %more?] | 23:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | which movie was it that claimed killers call their profession "doing a wet job"? | 23:06 |
| romare | is there a news website with only good news about the virus? | 23:07 |
| bin_bash | lol | 23:07 |
| bin_bash | probably no | 23:07 |
| LjL | <Arsanerit> Does Brainstorm select /r/WorldNews for corona news or does it assume everythin on /r/WorldNews is corona? β select according to a few keywords | 23:12 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 21:20 UTC: /u/slakmehl: Jon Passantino su Twitter: "The French doctor behind the hydroxychloroquine hype claimed coronavirus "panic is largely due to the exaggerations of the pressβ and is of course a climate change skeptic https://t.co/gaTKJkU2bE" [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/oSYony | 23:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | romare: it's maybe tough to get such a website going, due to lack of input. But anyway maybe it's actually a good idea to have that site | 23:23 |
| anarchat | how do i tell which nicks are bots here? :) | 23:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | /whois | 23:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | may help | 23:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | also /ns info <nick> | 23:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | seems the cahnops decided to give official bots +V | 23:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | [30 Mar 2020 23:25:05] [Whois] Brainstorm is ~storm@unaffiliated/ljl/bot/brainstorm (%help for info; https://www.reddit.com/r/EEW/wiki) see the hostmask. But for a large number of bots the owner didn't bother to follow those rules | 23:25 |
| tinwhiskers | I think there is only two bots here | 23:25 |
| tinwhiskers | %data italy | 23:26 |
| Brainstorm | tinwhiskers: In all areas, Italy, there are 101739 cases, 11591 deaths (11.4% of cases), 14620 recoveries as of March 30, 21:17Z. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Italy for time series data. | 23:26 |
| anarchat | ack thanks | 23:26 |
| LjL | there is more than one bot, and i'm honestly starting to get fed up with this whole bot issue | 23:26 |
| tinwhiskers | Ah, I don't recall the trigger for CovBot | 23:26 |
| LjL | actually that wasn't honest, that was rather holding back | 23:26 |
| tinwhiskers | oh, also CoronaBot | 23:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | /who *@*bot* | 23:27 |
| LjL | and MrNodeBot | 23:27 |
| tinwhiskers | ah right | 23:27 |
| LjL | and tomorrow someone else will join with their bot and we'll have some more discussion of what counts as excessive | 23:27 |
| ryouma | whidh side --- 14:26 <LjL> there is more than one bot, and i'm honestly starting to get fed up with this whole bot issue | 23:28 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 21:23 UTC: /u/SuitingUncle620: LIVE: Press Briefing with Coronavirus Task Force. β from r/WorldNews at 21:23: 'We will deliver right to the border': B.C. town vows to look after U.S. neighbours in pandemic - 'We are 1 community,' Stewart, B.C., mayor says of adjacent Hyder, Alaska β https://is.gd/Zc1K6I | 23:29 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/worldnews: Germany to centralize supply chains, set prices on masks, protective gear | The COVID-19 pandemic has led to global shortages of key protective supplies β and fraudsters looking to profit off the desperate need to procure them. Now Berlin is looking at ways to fill the gaps and combat extortion. (5004 votes) | 23:29 |
| CoronaBot | https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-germany-to-centralize-supply-chains-set-prices-on-masks-protective-gear/a-52952314 | https://redd.it/frqbmf | 23:29 |
| LjL | ryouma, hmm? | 23:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 21:28 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia update live: government to subsidise wages for 6 million workers in $130bn plan β latest news β from r/WorldNews at 21:28: Prince William wants to return as air ambulance pilot to βdo his bitβ in fight against coronavirus. β https://is.gd/0yTG1y | 23:35 |
| Brainstorm | πΈ World: +4069 cases (now 780645), +414 deaths (now 37549), +3 recoveries (now 164630) πΈ US: +599 cases (now 160288), +2 deaths (now 2953) πΈ Spain: +2761 cases (now 87956), +376 deaths (now 7716) πΈ Germany: +586 cases (now 66711), +29 deaths (now 645) πΈ Connecticut, US: +578 cases (now 2571), +2 deaths (now 36) πΉ Afghanistan: +50 cases (now 170) [... want %more?] | 23:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 21:37 UTC: /u/SuitingUncle620: FDA Commissioner Dr. Stephen Hahn discusses a new coronavirus test that can get results in 5 to 15 minutes. β from r/WorldNews at 21:37: Prince William wants to return as air ambulance pilot to βdo his bitβ in fight against coronavirus. β https://is.gd/UIoNXb | 23:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 21:43 UTC: /u/slakmehl: Vaughn Hillyard su Twitter: "AZ Gov. Ducey announces a Stay-at-Home Order: βThe time for further action is now,β Ducey said, noting need to βenhance our mitigation strategies.β βArizonans are ordered to limit their time away from home...except to take part in essential activities or seek [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/JANXKI | 23:48 |
| Timvde | "Normally this takes months or even up to a year, but they did it within weeks" | 23:49 |
| Timvde | Hmm, that sounds unlikely | 23:49 |
| Timvde | I wonder if it's actually reliable | 23:49 |
| LjL | Timvde, what is that from? | 23:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 21:43 UTC: Coronavirus US live: Trump delivers White House coronavirus briefing: President gives latest updates on virus outbreak Trump lashes out at critics as Fauci warns New Orleans, Detroit See all our coronavirus coverage [... want %more?] β https://is.gd/e63eha | 23:54 |
| Timvde | LjL: Brainstorm's link | 23:55 |
| Timvde | "FDA Commissioner Dr. Stephen Hahn discusses a new coronavirus test that can get results in 5 to 15 minutes." | 23:55 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/worldnews: Medical fetish site donates entire stock of scrubs after being contacted by "desperate" health officials (5508 votes) | 23:59 |
| CoronaBot | https://www.newsweek.com/medical-fetish-site-donates-stock-nhs-1494951 | https://redd.it/frvr6n | 23:59 |
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