libera/##covid-19/ Wednesday, 2020-05-13

BrainstormUpdates for Colombia: +659 cases (now 12272), +14 deaths (now 493) since 23 hours ago — Togo: +18 cases (now 199) since a day ago — Mauritania: +1 cases (now 9) since 13 days ago — Kentucky, US: +176 cases (now 6853), +10 deaths (now 321) since a day ago00:08
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 22:00 UTC: Coronavirus US live: Fauci testifies pandemic is not 'under control' in America: Fauci says opening too soon may cause says ‘spikes’ leading to larger outbreaks Analysis shows thousands in US getting Covid-19 at work Pence will avoid close contact with Trump The race for a vaccine: how Trump’s ‘America [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/wYJQIN00:15
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test) at 22:12 UTC: CoronaVirus_ITALIA: Rimossi tre video da milioni di views dal canale di BYOBLU riguardo al Coronavirus da youtube → https://is.gd/BDDXUE00:22
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews Live* at 22:26 UTC: /u/slakmehl: The COVID Tracking Project su Twitter: "The death toll today is 1,510. That brings the total deaths in our dataset over ~77 thousand. This does not include 5,136 probable COVID-19 deaths reported by NYC, but not New York State, nor does it address excess mortality as reported by the CDC here: [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/cGEANh00:29
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BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 22:31 UTC: Coronavirus live news: Pence avoiding Trump after aide's positive test: Spain to quarantine overseas travellers; Trump walks out of press conference; White House staff ordered to wear masks → https://is.gd/XZriTM00:43
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 22:54 UTC: Australia coronavirus live:  Josh Frydenberg tests negative to Covid-19 – latest updates: Treasurer self-isolated after a coughing fit in parliament on Tuesday; Australia’s death toll from coronavirus rises to 98 after another fatality linked to Ruby Princess cruise ship. Follow all the latest news, live → https://is.gd/4smn3E00:57
_abc_I don't know if this is known here, I found it very useful. I am not in UK. I read several articles, on vitamin D, exercise, masks etc. Debunking the mythology politicians are trying to feed us here too. Evidence based medicine, Oxford U. https://www.cebm.net/oxford-covid-19-evidence-service/01:13
LjL_abc_, that looks like a useful addition to the resources page in the topic, although i need to feel less sleepy to have a good look at it01:16
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BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 23:23 UTC: Coronavirus US live: Fauci testifies pandemic is not 'under control' in America: Fauci says opening too soon may cause says ‘spikes’ leading to larger outbreaks Analysis shows thousands in US getting Covid-19 at work Pence will avoid close contact with Trump The race for a vaccine: how Trump’s ‘America [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/wYJQIN01:33
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BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 23:40 UTC: Australia coronavirus live:  Josh Frydenberg tests negative to Covid-19 – latest updates: Treasurer self-isolated after a coughing fit in parliament on Tuesday; Australia’s death toll from coronavirus rises to 98 after another fatality linked to Ruby Princess cruise ship. Follow all the latest news, live → https://is.gd/4smn3E01:47
danielp3344How02:04
danielp3344 * How's the pandemic going?02:04
bin_bashgood, you?02:05
danielp3344seems to be getting quiet in here02:05
danielp3344bin_bash: I got pulled over yesterday and the officer wasn't wearing a mask :/02:05
danielp3344WTF02:05
bin_bashyikes02:05
danielp3344I'm wondering if that's worth taking to court02:06
danielp3344I saw several other police officers that day, all wearing masks, but not this one02:06
bin_bashdid you call the policd02:07
danielp3344no I have not02:07
danielp3344Do you think I should?02:07
ryoumayou could call it in and the voice recording would keep it onrecord at least02:08
danielp3344is there any point in doing so?02:09
BrainstormUpdates for Japan: +121 cases (now 15968), +24 deaths (now 657) since 22 hours ago — Guinea-Bissau: +59 cases (now 820) since a day ago — New Hampshire, US: +79 cases (now 3239), +9 deaths (now 142) since a day ago — California, US: +37 cases (now 70723), +2 deaths (now 2855) since 55 minutes ago02:09
ryouma%data angaur02:10
Brainstormryouma: Sorry, angaur not found. Either there aren't cases, or it's under a different name.02:10
ryouma%data pelau02:10
Brainstormryouma: Sorry, pelau not found. Either there aren't cases, or it's under a different name.02:10
ryouma%data seychelles02:10
Brainstormryouma: In Seychelles, there have been 11 confirmed cases (0.0% of the population) and 0 deaths (0.0% of cases) as of 19 days ago. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Seychelles for time series data.02:10
ryouma%data new guinea02:10
Brainstormryouma: In Papua New Guinea, there have been 8 confirmed cases (0.0% of the population) and 0 deaths (0.0% of cases) as of 19 days ago. 2402 tests were performed (0.3% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Papua%20New%20Guinea for time series data.02:10
ryouma%data nm02:11
Brainstormryouma: In New Mexico, US, there have been 5069 confirmed cases (0.2% of the population) and 208 deaths (4.1% of cases) as of a day ago. 102498 tests were performed (4.9% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data.02:11
ryouma%data az02:11
Brainstormryouma: In Arizona, US, there have been 11736 confirmed cases (0.2% of the population) and 562 deaths (4.8% of cases) as of 7 hours ago. 159082 tests were performed (7.4% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data.02:11
danielp3344%data MD02:12
Brainstormdanielp3344: In Maryland, US, there have been 34061 confirmed cases (0.6% of the population) and 1756 deaths (5.2% of cases) as of 9 hours ago. 169503 tests were performed (20.1% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data.02:12
ryoumawhen will az return its results from its 3-saturdaytesting02:12
LjLdanielp3344, it's probably not any worse than people (meaning public people, including doctors) on TV wearing masks incorrectly, showing everyone how to wear them... incorrectly02:14
danielp3344LjL: well, wearing a mask at least shows you care02:14
LjLmarginally, if you keep the nose out02:14
danielp3344Wearing no mask, with an obvious intention to come into contact with people, is worse IMO02:15
ryoumai had to go to dentist, was inspected pointlessly by an underling, had no idea where to put the mask for that, had contaminated hands, then had to figure out how to put it back and seal it02:15
danielp3344LjL: thoughts on bandanas?02:15
ryoumaand then lie there for an hour02:15
ryoumaso there is a lot to figuring how what to do with a mask in certainc ases02:16
LjLdanielp3344, i am of the "anything's better than nothing" camp, although if you *can get* something better... then probably do02:16
LjLryouma, oh you went?02:16
danielp3344Luckily I've only had to make use of a mask once02:16
danielp3344My business has been pretty easy to keep contactless02:16
ryoumaLjL: i went on the undertstanding that the room would be fallow for a few hours (but there was hvac) and that dental work would be done if needed.  then i was made to wait more than an hour and was told that the dental work would not be done.  i said i would not have gone if i had known that.  we had been given assurances manytimes the work would be done in teh same appointment02:17
LjL:\02:18
ryoumaso have no dental work having been done, no place to go if there are emergencies, and a treatment plan of 1400usd he wants to do in a month, right when the peak is even higher because lockdown lifted02:18
LjLa straightforward "no, we can't do that with our setup sir, sorry" wouldn't have been the end of the world02:18
ryouma(gong agian is also really hard on my non-covid health conditions)02:18
LjLryouma, 1400 bucks means like... root canals and/or extractions and/or crowns are definitely involved, right?02:20
LjLwell, crowns, or even just the very fancy composite fillings they get done in labs lately, actually02:20
LjLeach of them can be 500ish so...02:20
ryoumanot only that, but i had little nasal filters so that i could try to breathe through those.  he pulled them out without permission, then shoved them back in without permission, even though he knew he had no intentions of doing the promised work.  only need them if the work is done.  nope just a few cavities.02:21
LjLcan you find some other place? this just sound like a nest of pricks, which you don't want when having dental work done02:22
LjLi had a dentist who was a bit of a prick for a short while, talked on the phone while tinkering with my mouth02:22
danielp3344oof02:23
LjLdidn't use a dental dam, at some point he almost dropped one bit of metal into my throat02:23
LjLwell, he did drop it, but his assistant managed to rescue it from my tongue02:23
danielp3344Human teeth are just not optimal for what we use them for02:23
LjLlater after the incident i read many dentists on the internet being like "first thing, ask if they use dental dams, and if they say no and/or don't understand what's the big deal, go someplace else"02:23
LjLwhat are you even talking about? right now i'm tearing through a freshly killed giraffe's raw meat02:24
ryoumathis one did drop something in back of throat once, so who knows what i swallowed.  never uses dental dam, i am not familiar with dental dams.  he is good about accommodating my orthostatic intolerance.02:25
ryoumai presume dental dams get the bad stuff in fillings not to go down throat02:25
ryoumathey also did ont social distancel, with one another or with me, and there weaw another patient in the wating room contra what they said theyw ould do02:26
ryoumawe all kind of walked in a line in a hallway02:27
ryoumathey wore surgical masks at least02:27
LjLryouma, not so much the fillings per se. they let the dentist work in a "cleaner" environment which means the fillings (or other stuff) can end up being more effective, for instance, if glues come in contact with your saliva they may not be as effective... and on the other side of the dam, you can salivate and move your tongue around and it's not a problem, and an assistant doesn't constantly need to be suctioning, and you don't have to fear for their 02:27
LjLmetal bits to choke you02:27
ryoumacan you breathe?02:27
ryoumai hafve never had a dentist do that02:28
LjLryouma, yes, although *while* the dental dam is being placed, you may need to breathe through the nose for a moment or two. throughout most of the time, the dam is kept in tension by a metal "stand", so it doesn't really form a seal with your mouth02:28
LjLryouma, younger dentists routinely do it, at least in europe (but i think the US too, don't quote me), older dentists... well, depends on how updated they want to stay02:29
LjLbut having actually had that bit of metal almost choke me, trust me, i'm happy my current dentist uses them02:29
ryoumai was horizontal when the piece of mercury filling or whatever it was fell down my throat.  dentist was like "whatever it was it was a piece of you".02:30
LjLeven if it's a little painful because there's another metal thing that *keeps* the dental dam tensioned *around* the tooth (or teeth) involved... so yeah that part kinda goes in between your teeth, and touched your gums, and is not super pleasant02:30
ryoumadoes it work for deep cleaning in addition to fillings?02:30
ryoumaand extractions02:30
LjLextractions, i think so, but not completely sure. deep cleaning, no02:31
LjLit works for fillings and for root canals at least02:31
olwenthe last dentist  I went to was the best dentist ever.  he had to work on  a tooth that was really bad he did such a good  job everything he did was done so very well he put the jell on first so needle didn't hardly hurt and just had a very calm manner about him 11/10 dental experience02:32
ryoumawish i had something to keep my teeth from getting worse for 6 months02:32
bin_bashdental dams are for oral sex02:32
olwenthe one before that was scary02:32
olwenbin_bash, that's wht i thought of lol02:32
olweni heard that too02:32
bin_bashive literally never heard it in an actual dental context before02:32
olweni think the last dentist i went to used  something like that  to catch the water02:33
ryoumadunno why they don't make them out of nitrile02:33
bin_bashwhenever i have to get fillings i always get nitrous and injections02:33
LjLbin_bash, the fact they have "dental" in sex should probably provide a hint that people do produce and use them for things that aren't just what you're thinking of02:34
olwenI think he was from Africa or something  but he just had this really calm  way about him...funny how people  can make you feel calm even when drilling into your jaw02:34
olwenother dentists it's  more scary02:34
LjLnitruous oxide is unusual in italy02:34
LjLnitrous also02:34
olwenmaybe some others want to hurt people02:34
bin_bashLjL: they're called that because they go around your mouth02:34
LjLbin_bash, they are called that because they are used in dentistry02:35
bin_bash¯\_(ツ)_/¯02:35
bin_bashi'm jsut saying not here02:35
LjLi'm sure you can google it, as can everynoe else here02:35
bin_bashhttps://www.cdc.gov/condomeffectiveness/Dental-dam-use.html02:35
bin_bashhell if i google "dental dam" that's the first result02:35
LjLhttps://www.aae.org/specialty/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/06/dentaldamstatement.pdf02:35
bin_bashthe entire first page is about using it for safer sex02:36
LjLthat's my second if i google "dental dams america dentists"02:36
bin_bashi just googled "dental dam"02:36
bin_bashthe entire first page is about oral sex, im looking at the second now02:36
bin_bashthe entire second page is about oral sex02:36
ketashahaha02:37
LjLdo you find it difficult to conceive that just because something is conveniently used for licking ass, it was not actually conceived for that?02:37
bin_bashhalfway down the 3rd page this is the only reference: https://aseptico.com/store/rubber-dam-accessories/rubber-dam/handidam-dental-dam/02:37
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 00:32 UTC: Gilead strikes deal to make remdesivir coronavirus treatment in 127 countries: The deal is "royalty-free" until WHO says the Covid-19 outbreak is no longer a global health crisis or "until a pharmaceutical product other than remdesivir or a vaccine is approved to treat or prevent Covid-19." → https://is.gd/lygN6s02:37
bin_bashLjL: no, i'm just telling you that in the US a dental dam is only ever referred to that way in regards to sex02:37
bin_bashis that really so difficult for you to conceive? that the entire context is about oral sex here?02:38
bin_bashthe entire first 2 pages of google ffs02:38
ketasfrom my experience, who even uses dental dam?02:38
LjLalso, if i google "dental dam" on its own, the picture that *google* gives me is the one you can see here: https://framapic.org/4kfqbJSEKXym/YdlJlZshcokP.png  does google not give you the same?02:38
LjLyes, there are many pages about sex, yes, there are also... depictions02:38
bin_bashnone of my dentists ever use that02:38
bin_bash¯\_(ツ)_/¯02:38
LjLit's still a dental damn used for fucking dental work ffs02:38
LjLno, in the US, it is not02:39
bin_bashi'm just saying in california if you google "dental dam": the entire first and second page are about safe sex02:39
ketasyou google porn too much02:39
LjLit is referred and used that way by YOU02:39
bin_bashno i dont watch porn02:39
LjLnot by dentists02:39
LjLand we're talking about dentists and dentistry02:39
ketasit flipped the bit he_likes_porn02:39
LjLbut you kinda took it over with the sex part of it instead02:39
olwenGilead was the mountain in the bible. I can't read about the company without thinking of the bible part, "Your hair is like a flock of goats, Going down from Mount Gilead." hehe02:39
LjLand i allowed you02:39
LjLi will now disallow me02:39
bin_bashLjL: dentists here don't call them that they call them "rubber dams"02:39
bin_basho.o02:40
olwenI think they are both called dental dams https://www.rdhmag.com/patient-care/article/16408220/dammed-if-you-do-dammed-if-you-dont02:43
olwenhaha02:43
ryoumathat picture looks like you would haev to be able to breathe through your nose :(02:43
ryoumanot good if you have a stuffed nose02:43
olwendental or rubber  dam02:44
danielp3344how did we get here?02:44
bin_bashit's my fault, i admit it02:45
Raf[m]LOL reading back at this argument. My 2 cents, "dental dam" definitely has a sexual connotation in the US. Everyone's experience is different02:48
Raf[m]it has quite a few entries on urban dictionary which is a good check against street lingo: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dental+dam02:49
bin_bashyeah thank you. i've been going to the dentist my entire life, including orthodontics and i've never had one of those used.02:49
bin_bashalso the CDC website...02:49
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 00:42 UTC: Australia coronavirus live:  Josh Frydenberg tests negative to Covid-19 – latest updates: Treasurer self-isolated after a coughing fit in parliament on Tuesday; Australia’s death toll from coronavirus rises to 98 after another fatality linked to Ruby Princess cruise ship. Follow all the latest news, live → https://is.gd/4smn3E02:51
olwenhttps://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/05/the-impact-of-covid-19-on-native-american-communities/02:52
ketasolwen: i read that bible suggests mounting goats02:56
ketassurely misread there02:57
BrainstormUpdates for Mexico: +1997 cases (now 38324), +353 deaths (now 3926) since 23 hours ago — S. Sudan: +38 cases (now 194) since a day ago — New Mexico, US: +143 cases (now 5212), +11 deaths (now 219) since a day ago — Panama: +167 cases (now 8783), +3 deaths (now 252) since 23 hours ago03:09
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews at 01:05 UTC: worldnews: Bangladesh: Mass Arrests Over Cartoons, Posts — “It is only an insecure and authoritarian government that uses a pandemic to arrest cartoonists, journalists, and activists,” said Brad Adams, Asia director at Human Rights Watch. → https://is.gd/uEuVfW03:20
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 01:13 UTC: Coronavirus live updates: Cases in Brazil spike as it has deadliest day with 881 deaths: Confirmed cases in Brazil surpassed Germany's on Tuesday, with the South American country now in sixth place in the list of countries with the highest number of cases. → https://is.gd/DqOmuh03:27
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 01:33 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: Brazil reports a record 881 deaths as Wuhan prepares to test 11m residents → https://is.gd/NgAAMm03:41
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews Live* at 01:41 UTC: /u/slakmehl: The New York Times su Twitter: "Dr. Anthony Fauci, the top infectious disease expert in the U.S., and Dr. Robert Redfield, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, predicted dire consequences if the nation reopened its economy too soon https://t.co/xFq50yy5FS" → https://is.gd/MW1iZS03:48
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swift110somaliland? who even goes there04:22
LjLswift110, nobody goes much of anywhere lately, really04:31
LjLbut i assume people who lived there before still do, unless they die04:31
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CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: Majority of Americans say that federal government not doing enough to prevent second wave of virus: poll shows (10079 votes) | https://redd.it/gigh6z05:13
swift110LjL, yeah ok05:33
DocScrutinizer05re CoronaBot   https://xkcd.com/2305/ 05:45
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ryouma%data canada07:34
Brainstormryouma: In Canada, there have been 71157 confirmed cases (0.2% of the population) and 5169 deaths (7.3% of cases) as of 7 hours ago. 1.1 million tests were performed (6.2% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 2.4% (assuming deaths/cases with ⅔ undetected), and less than 13.2% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Canada for time series data.07:34
ryoumawe are talking fatality = death / (recovery + death) here riht?07:35
ryoumai hope?07:35
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CoronaBot04/r/covid19: SARS-CoV-2 ORF3b is a potent interferon antagonist whose activity is further increased by a naturally occurring elongation variant (80 votes) | https://redd.it/giltj107:44
juliusGGood Morning Everybody!08:13
adventurerhi juliusG 08:13
juliusGI wake up right now and I'm sipping my coffee.08:14
adventurercoffee good idea...that might be what i need08:16
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OlwenIn the Ivory Coast 25% of tests were new cases as said  on their government facebook thing today09:41
Olwen25%09:41
Olwenseems high09:41
Olwenhttps://www.facebook.com/pg/Mshpci/posts/09:41
Olwenif i am reading this correctly09:41
darsieOlwen: Depends who you test. If they come to the hospital with breathing problems it'll be more than 25%.09:55
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CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Vitamin D levels appear to play role in COVID-19 mortality rates: Patients with severe deficiency are twice as likely to experience major complications (89 votes) | https://redd.it/gitsbr10:45
OlwenWho updates Worldometer10:46
Olwen?10:46
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kreyrenDid anyone reported loss of smell without a fever to be relevant to covid-19?12:52
kreyren(and no other symptoms)12:53
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BrainstormUpdates for Kuwait: +751 cases (now 11028), +7 deaths (now 82) since a day ago — Portugal: +219 cases (now 28132), +12 deaths (now 1175) since 23 hours ago — US: +109 cases (now 1.4 million), +24 deaths (now 83449) since 10 hours ago — World: +1214 cases (now 4.4 million), +56 deaths (now 293461) since 19 minutes ago13:51
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Prolonged viral RNA shedding after COVID-19 symptom resolution in older convalescent plasma donors (80 votes) | https://redd.it/gifu3b14:10
BrainstormUpdates for Bahrain: +249 cases (now 5780) since 16 hours ago — Virginia, US: +946 cases (now 26746), +36 deaths (now 927) since 23 hours ago — Belarus: +952 cases (now 25825), +4 deaths (now 146) since 23 hours ago — Sweden: +637 cases (now 27909), +147 deaths (now 3460) since a day ago15:06
BrainstormUpdates for Tajikistan: +72 cases (now 801) since 4 hours ago — United Kingdom: +3242 cases (now 229705), +494 deaths (now 33186) since 22 hours ago — Azerbaijan: +65 cases (now 2758), +2 deaths (now 35) since 19 hours ago — World: +3793 cases (now 4.4 million), +496 deaths (now 294434) since 16 minutes ago15:21
ubLXI%title https://twitter.com/DKThomp/status/126030593915398553615:49
BrainstormubLXI: From twitter.com: Derek Thompson su Twitter: "Now that's three CDC studies—from a Chinese restaurant, a Korean call center, and an American choir practice—all finding that talking, laughing, singing in close quarters, [...]15:49
BrainstormUpdates for Eq. Guinea: +83 cases (now 522), +2 deaths (now 6) since 6 days ago — Sao Tome and Principe: +12 cases (now 220), +1 deaths (now 6) since 4 days ago — Mauritania: +1 deaths (now 2) since 15 hours ago — World: +112 cases (now 4.4 million), +4 deaths (now 294438) since 32 minutes ago15:51
nihilist_223374Anybody still in a lockdown?16:06
BrainstormUpdates for Mayotte: +48 cases (now 1143), +2 deaths (now 14) since 19 hours ago — Cabo Verde: +19 cases (now 289) since 29 minutes ago — US: +99 cases (now 1.4 million), +14 deaths (now 83505) since 47 minutes ago — World: +166 cases (now 4.4 million), +16 deaths (now 294454) since 29 minutes ago16:06
LjLsigh... they announced they are going to "disassemble" the hospital they built in the Milan world fair buildings16:16
LjLas if we don't risk another surge next autumn, or even sooner16:16
LjLbut sure, let's make sure we're just as unprepared as last time16:16
metreoThey have all the clusters under control where I am after 8-weeks of lockdown, lots of people are out recently but with respectful social distancing of course.16:18
metreoSmall population ~400k locally and ~1M at a much larger scale.16:19
metreoThe economy is in tatters, public spending is being slashed locally even as national spending is growing.16:20
ubLXILjL: maybe they are confident that can jump hard on top of the next outbreak16:20
LjLpsh16:20
BrainstormUpdates for Kenya: +22 cases (now 737), +4 deaths (now 40) since a day ago — Maryland, US: +751 cases (now 34812), +53 deaths (now 1809) since 23 hours ago — US: +751 cases (now 1.4 million), +53 deaths (now 83558) since 20 minutes ago — World: +840 cases (now 4.4 million), +65 deaths (now 294519) since 20 minutes ago16:21
LjLmetreo, i understand the need to re-open. but all the clusters under control? the problem is you don't know that. they seem under control now, but you need to see what happens in a week or two, because clusters will be silent at first. and i don't know where you are and how efficient your epidemic control is, but here, i don't even believe they could "jump on top of it" within that week or two16:22
LjLi was reading just yesterday an article on "fever hospitals" in the UK16:22
LjLexplaining why they existed in times without antibiotics and periodic outbreaks, and stating we need them back16:22
LjLthey weren't always operational, they were kept in a "frozen" state until they were needed16:23
LjLwell, now we've sort of created some. and we're dismantling them?16:23
metreoLjL we've had only a single case in a number of days and two fatalities, there is no known community transmission hot spots according to local health authorities16:24
metreoSmaller population, relatively remote, relatively affluent are some ingredients here to be sure. 16:25
ubLXILjL: couldn't be worse than the UK, by this academic's view: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/11/britain-economy-coronavirus-deaths. 16:31
BrainstormUpdates for Yemen: +5 cases (now 70), +2 deaths (now 12) since 22 hours ago — West Virginia, US: +20 cases (now 1398) since 17 hours ago — California, US: +108 cases (now 71046), +6 deaths (now 2882) since 13 hours ago — US: +130 cases (now 1.4 million), +6 deaths (now 83564) since 21 minutes ago16:36
metreo!cases Canada16:37
CovBotIn Canada there have been a total of 71,157 cases as of 2020-05-13 14:15:00 UTC. Of these 31,946 (44.9%) are still sick or may have recovered without being recorded, 34,042 (47.8%) have definitely recovered and 5,169 (7.3%) have died.16:37
metreo!cases world16:38
CovBotIn World there have been a total of 4,379,475 cases as of 2020-05-13 14:15:00 UTC. Of these 2,464,089 (56.3%) are still sick or may have recovered without being recorded, 1,620,867 (37.0%) have definitely recovered and 294,519 (6.7%) have died.16:38
BrainstormUpdates for Dem. Rep. Congo: +67 cases (now 1169), +6 deaths (now 50) since 16 hours ago — Nepal: +24 cases (now 243) since 6 hours ago — Brazil: +1243 cases (now 179457), +70 deaths (now 12531) since 12 hours ago — World: +1460 cases (now 4.4 million), +70 deaths (now 294597) since 16 minutes ago16:50
foncused%cases uk16:56
Brainstormfoncused: In United Kingdom, there have been 229705 confirmed cases (0.3% of the population) and 33186 deaths (14.4% of cases) as of an hour ago. 2.1 million tests were performed (11.0% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data.16:56
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 14:57 UTC: China-linked hackers are targeting US coronavirus vaccine research, FBI warns: The hackers have been caught attempting to "identify and illicitly obtain valuable intellectual property" and public-health data related to coronavirus research, according to the U.S. government. → https://is.gd/hvxcc317:00
BrainstormUpdates for Moldova: +252 cases (now 5406), +3 deaths (now 185) since 21 hours ago — Iraq: +119 cases (now 3032), +3 deaths (now 115) since 23 hours ago — Madagascar: +26 cases (now 212) since a day ago — World: +398 cases (now 4.4 million), +6 deaths (now 294603) since 19 minutes ago17:07
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 15:04 UTC: (news): Scientists race to find a cure or vaccine for the coronavirus. Here are the top drugs in development → https://is.gd/Mn9ihc17:07
LjLubLXI, i'm sure now that "TTI" is important, after seeing Korea, but in Italy what also continued to further infections despite the lockdown was household transmission, and the lack of venues where to place sick people who were living with family. they kept talking about hotels "being made" available but i suspect it never actually happened, they just prepared the bureaucracy for it to happen17:13
LjLand there enter "fever hospitals"17:13
ubLXIhmm17:14
LjLhttps://www.cebm.net/covid-19/covid-19-reestablishing-fever-hospitals/17:15
LjLubLXI, to be fair given the extent of asymptomatic and pre-symptomatic transmission with this virus i am not entirely sure early isolation would help tremendously since "early" can't be early enough17:15
Jigsy%cases UK17:16
BrainstormJigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 229705 confirmed cases (0.3% of the population) and 33186 deaths (14.4% of cases) as of an hour ago. 2.1 million tests were performed (11.0% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data.17:16
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 15:14 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: No 10 rejects Starmer's claim PM misled MPs about care home advice as deaths rise by 494 → https://is.gd/wj2wvE17:22
BrainstormUpdates for India: +2681 cases (now 77729), +95 deaths (now 2535) since 3 hours ago — Florida, US: +479 cases (now 42402), +45 deaths (now 1827) since 21 hours ago — Alabama, US: +26 cases (now 10494), +2 deaths (now 442) since 2 hours ago — US: +590 cases (now 1.4 million), +48 deaths (now 83612) since 34 minutes ago17:22
ubLXIbbl17:28
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 15:25 UTC: (news): Scientists race to find a cure or vaccine for the coronavirus. Here are the top drugs in development → https://is.gd/Mn9ihc17:29
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 15:33 UTC: More than 80 kids in New York City have coronavirus inflammatory syndrome, Mayor de Blasio says: The number of news cases of PMIS in the city rose by 30 from the day before. Doctors are increasingly recognizing the symptoms in more children after the illness came to light in the U.K. late last month. → https://is.gd/h2UTXi17:36
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 15:39 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: LabCorp optimistic about US testing capacity, former FDA chief sees colleges open in fall → https://is.gd/QOFU3j17:43
kalakut4!covid US17:51
CoronaBotUSA: Global rank: #1, cases: 1,412,661 (+4,025), fatalities: 83,664 (+239), active cases: 1,029,994, total recovered: 299,003, in a serious condition: 16,473. Mortality: 5.92%, case fatality rate: 21.86%, cases/1M: 4268.0, deaths/1M: 253.0. Case rate: 22,802/24h, death rate: 1,630/24h. Tests: 9,969,785, tests/1M: 30,120.17:51
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 15:48 UTC: (news): Scientists race to find a cure or vaccine for the coronavirus. Here are the top drugs in development → https://is.gd/Mn9ihc17:57
BrainstormUpdates for Chile: +2660 cases (now 34381), +11 deaths (now 346) since a day ago — Rhode Island, US: +221 cases (now 11835), +18 deaths (now 462) since a day ago — Iowa, US: +377 cases (now 13289), +17 deaths (now 306) since a day ago — Mississippi, US: +182 cases (now 10090), +8 deaths (now 465) since 23 hours ago18:07
BrainstormNew from https://covid19.specops.network * at 16:11 UTC: ljl-covid: Add CNBC synopsis of top vaccines/treatments → https://is.gd/7Rhd7218:18
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 16:22 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: LabCorp optimistic about US testing capacity, Amazon loosens shipping restrictions → https://is.gd/QOFU3j18:25
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 16:23 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Amazon loosens shipping restrictions, LabCorp optimistic about US testing capacity → https://is.gd/QOFU3j18:32
BrainstormUpdates for North Dakota, US: +76 cases (now 1647), +2 deaths (now 40) since a day ago — Oklahoma, US: +120 cases (now 4852) since 23 hours ago — Uzbekistan: +1 deaths (now 11) since 11 hours ago — Minnesota, US: +423 cases (now 12917), +24 deaths (now 638) since a day ago18:37
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 16:39 UTC: More than 80 kids in New York City have coronavirus inflammatory syndrome, Mayor de Blasio says: The number of news cases of PMIS in the city rose by 30 from the day before. Doctors are increasingly recognizing the symptoms in more children after the illness came to light in the U.K. late last month. → https://is.gd/h2UTXi18:46
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 16:44 UTC: Global economy: Global trade to fall by record 27% due to Covid-19, says UN → https://is.gd/wtO3Tn18:53
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Years of life lost due to the psychosocial consequences of COVID19 mitigation strategies based on Swiss data (80 votes) | https://redd.it/giwt4518:53
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 16:57 UTC: (news): WHO officials warn of 'vicious cycle' of economic and health disasters if coronavirus restrictions are lifted too quickly → https://is.gd/DXydbp19:00
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 17:01 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Global cases top 4.3 million as Europe braces for summer 'like no other' → https://is.gd/QOFU3j19:07
BrainstormUpdates for Louisiana, US: +612 cases (now 32662) since 23 hours ago — New York, US: +1927 cases (now 350582), +107 deaths (now 27282) since 19 hours ago — Maine, US: +38 cases (now 1515), +1 deaths (now 66) since 23 hours ago — Dominican Rep.: +296 cases (now 11196), +7 deaths (now 409) since 18 hours ago19:07
LjLuhm the PMIS thing... it's new to me, i'd only heard something about Kawasaki disease being seemingly more prevalent in children now. neither thing sounds great19:11
LjLthey seem similar or related19:12
LjLmaybe different diagnoses for the same thing in some children19:12
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 17:11 UTC: (news): Scientists race to find a cure or vaccine for the coronavirus. Here are the top drugs in development → https://is.gd/Mn9ihc19:14
tinwhiskersLjL: PMIS?19:17
LjLtinwhiskers, "pediatric multi-system inflammatory syndrome"19:17
LjLit says19:17
LjLThe disease is causing heart and kidney failure in children with Covid-19 and is similar to a rare inflammatory syndrome in children called Kawasaki disease.19:18
LjLi had heard about clusters of Kawasaki in Italy19:18
LjLat least, cases that were diagnosed as such19:18
LjLand that seemed to cluster in places where COVID-19 also clustered19:18
tinwhiskersAh. I see. pediatric multi-system inflammatory syndrome,.19:19
tinwhiskersOh. as you said19:19
izLjL: yeah, they were talkin about cases of that in the usa on the news recently also19:21
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews Live* at 17:16 UTC: /u/slakmehl: Kyle Griffin su Twitter: "Bloomberg: The coronavirus test from Abbott Laboratories used at the White House to get rapid answers to whether someone is infected may miss as many as half of positive cases, according to a report from New York University. https://t.co/zl9xn0O0K7" → https://is.gd/tPhSug19:21
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 17:24 UTC: (news): WHO officials warn of 'vicious cycle' of economic and health disasters if coronavirus restrictions are lifted too quickly → https://is.gd/DXydbp19:28
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: Vitamin D levels appear to play role in COVID-19 mortality rates: Patients with severe deficiency are twice as likely to experience major complications (10530 votes) | https://redd.it/gixdji19:41
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 17:40 UTC: China-linked hackers are targeting US coronavirus vaccine research, FBI warns: The hackers have been caught attempting to "identify and illicitly obtain valuable intellectual property" and public-health data related to coronavirus research, according to the U.S. government. → https://is.gd/hvxcc319:42
nixonixhttps://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-05/jn-scd051220.php19:43
nixonix%title19:43
Brainstormnixonix: From www.eurekalert.org: School closure during COVID-19 pandemic | EurekAlert! Science News19:43
LjL<Brainstorm> New from WHO News at 17:15 UTC: WHO report details Italian response to “unprecedented challenge” of COVID-19: WHO/Europe has today released a report detailing Italy’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic and highlighting lessons learned. As COVID-19 continues to affect countries across the WHO European Region, the report seeks to provide guidance through evidence. → https://is.gd/fE6THd19:47
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 17:44 UTC: New York has paid $7.4 billion in unemployment claims to roughly 1.7 million residents, officials say: Roughly 1.8 million residents struggling with unemployment due to the coronavirus pandemic have filed claims, roughly six times the number of claims filed during the 2008 financial crisis, officials said. → https://is.gd/rK7CeK19:49
LjLon page 6 of that, it has a nice timeline of what happened in italy... since a few people have asked me when the lockdown started, and the answer was both complicated (because we've had a number of different "lockdowns"), and because all days are the same and i really can't remember19:52
BrainstormUpdates for Delaware, US: +211 cases (now 6952), +10 deaths (now 247) since a day ago — Kansas, US: +140 cases (now 7385) since 2 hours ago — Ireland: +159 cases (now 23401), +9 deaths (now 1497) since a day ago — Brazil: +688 cases (now 180737), +36 deaths (now 12635) since an hour ago19:52
LjLalso on page 9 there is a very telling graph of "daily deaths from all causes", for the north of italy, and for the center-south19:54
LjLeuromomo doesn't directly provide the numeric data (only how far you get from the standard deviation), and it also doesn't break countries down19:54
LjLso this is not really a graph i had seen, i had seen similar for specific localities only19:54
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 17:54 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Global cases top 4.3 million as Europe braces for summer 'like no other' → https://is.gd/QOFU3j19:56
LjLalso table 1 on page 16 for a more lockdown-specific version of the thing i said is on page 619:58
JigsyI thought Summer was cancelled?19:58
LjLon page 20 there is the occupation of hospital beds and ICU beds in Lombardy, plotted against initial availability. we know that ICU were exceeded by far, but i see hospitalizations in general weren't so far from reaching full capacity19:59
BrainstormUpdates for Guinea: +76 cases (now 2374), +3 deaths (now 14) since 23 hours ago — New Jersey, US: +631 cases (now 142710), +1 deaths (now 9703) since 20 minutes ago — US: +631 cases (now 1.4 million), +1 deaths (now 84187) since 20 minutes ago — World: +708 cases (now 4.4 million), +4 deaths (now 295844) since 20 minutes ago20:07
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 17:59 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: every African country now affected as Lesotho announces first case → https://is.gd/NgAAMm20:10
nixonixhttps://www.technologyreview.com/2020/05/11/1001541/iceland-rakning-c19-covid-contact-tracing/20:11
nixonix%title20:12
Brainstormnixonix: From www.technologyreview.com: Nearly 40% of Icelanders are using a covid app—and it hasn’t helped much | MIT Technology Review20:12
LjLaw20:15
LjLwell, the estimates here were that at least 60% will need to install it to help20:15
LjLwhich seems... unlikely to happen, but anyway, other experts said 70% or even 80% would be needed, even less likely20:16
LjL“The technology is more or less … I wouldn’t say useless,”20:17
LjLlol20:17
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 18:11 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Global cases top 4.3 million as Europe braces for summer 'like no other' → https://is.gd/QOFU3j20:17
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 18:28 UTC: China-linked hackers are targeting US coronavirus vaccine research, FBI warns: The hackers have been caught attempting to "identify and illicitly obtain valuable intellectual property" and public-health data related to coronavirus research, according to the U.S. government. → https://is.gd/hvxcc320:31
BrainstormUpdates for Mali: +28 cases (now 758), +4 deaths (now 44) since 22 hours ago — Ghana: +281 cases (now 5408), +2 deaths (now 24) since a day ago — United Arab Emirates: +725 cases (now 20386), +3 deaths (now 206) since a day ago — Ohio, US: +457 cases (now 25721), +45 deaths (now 1483) since 20 hours ago20:35
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 18:35 UTC: Uber will require all drivers and riders to wear masks starting next week: Uber is launching a new set of safety features in its app, including a tool that checks if drivers are wearing face masks before starting trips. → https://is.gd/HhhTtP20:38
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews Live* at 18:43 UTC: /u/slakmehl: Henrik Salje su Twitter: "Despite 20,000+ COVID19 deaths, we find only ~5% of France infected. The lockdown, eased on Monday, reduced transmission by 80%, however R still close to 1 (~0.7) with 3-6k daily infections, leaving little room for post-lockdown increases @ScienceMagazine [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/JgX0gS20:45
weimarnetzbot[m]<LjL "which seems... unlikely to happe"> it is.. there are people like me, who still DON'T want a smartphone... For example me and that household here, only 1 out of 3 people got a smartphone, and the one who got one woulnd't even know how to install an app20:46
weimarnetzbot[m]Can't see how there would be 60% and more, walking around with such an app20:47
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 18:48 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Global cases top 4.3 million as Europe braces for summer 'like no other' → https://is.gd/QOFU3j20:53
LjLweimarnetzbot[m], well, if iceland got 40%, i think it means that 60%, while still unrealistic, is *less* unrealistic than i thought, at least given the appropriate cultural context20:54
weimarnetzbot[m]well lol, in iceland they all got a smartphones, just to check if they are related to partners they like to date with 20:55
weimarnetzbot[m]and the music.....20:57
weimarnetzbot[m]bands like múm20:57
Arsaneritweimarnetzbot[m]: Next time you go to Iceland, I recommend Árnarfell.  It's about 2-3 day walking from the nearest road, and very beautiful.21:00
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 18:55 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Essential workers wait on federal hazard pay as Amazon ends wage increases → https://is.gd/QOFU3j21:00
nixonixiceland is a special case. small population, and they are used to app that show if the person you meet is a second or third cousin or something21:00
weimarnetzbot[m]yep21:02
weimarnetzbot[m]so I can see how an app can work there21:03
weimarnetzbot[m]one is used to participating in such things21:03
weimarnetzbot[m]<Arsanerit "weimarnetzbot: Next time you go "> let me google that =)21:04
nixonixbut contact tracing is also prob much easier there than in most cities of the world. or outside cities too, where are outsiders from much larger population than iceland21:05
BrainstormUpdates for Maldives: +51 cases (now 955), +1 deaths (now 4) since a day ago — Michigan, US: +370 cases (now 48391), +40 deaths (now 4714) since a day ago — US: +430 cases (now 1.4 million), +92 deaths (now 84335) since 37 minutes ago — California, US: +60 cases (now 71141), +52 deaths (now 2934) since 2 hours ago21:06
redlanternkorea's nightclub had 1500 in it, they tested 20,000 after the new cluster21:06
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 19:04 UTC: Uber will require all drivers and riders to wear masks starting Monday: Uber is launching a new set of safety features in its app, including a tool that checks if drivers are wearing face masks before starting trips. → https://is.gd/HhhTtP21:07
redlanternfriggin wuhan is going to test 11 million ! ?21:07
ThomCat[m]Arsanerit are you from Iceland?21:09
nixonixthen, even if they got the cases down to zero in wuhan, when it gets there again, again all 11M tested..21:10
redlanternnixonix: must have massive labs to do that?21:12
LjLsomehow i had missed it, but Italy's PM Conte is making a speech21:13
LjLhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjyAOtJ8Enw21:13
nixonixits under 1% of population. like a 3M city in usa, or 600k in uk. it could perhaps make sense, if its almost non-existent outside that city21:16
nixonixand it needs to happen fast. not like during several weeks21:19
nixonixor maybe, if those not yet tested are kept in full lockdown21:20
BrainstormUpdates for Texas, US: +652 cases (now 42518), +15 deaths (now 1194) since 20 hours ago — Sierra Leone: +49 cases (now 387), +7 deaths (now 26) since 2 days ago — Wisconsin, US: +291 cases (now 10902), +3 deaths (now 421) since a day ago — US: +943 cases (now 1.4 million), +18 deaths (now 84353) since 17 minutes ago21:21
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Follow-up Chest CT findings from discharged patients with severe COVID-19: an 83-day observational study (80 votes) | https://redd.it/gixkjj21:24
BrainstormUpdates for Togo: +20 cases (now 219) since 21 hours ago — World: +20 cases (now 4.4 million) since 24 minutes ago21:36
redlanterneven 'recovered' 1918 virus patients, has long lasting disability21:36
weimarnetzbot[m]yeah, it's not just deaths21:41
Arsaneritweimarnetzbot[m]: It's "arnarfell hið mikla" you would want to google.  There is very little informaiton about it in English.21:46
Arsanerit21:09:02 < ThomCat[m]> Arsanerit are you from Iceland?21:46
ArsaneritThomCat[m]: No.21:46
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 19:36 UTC: Coronavirus US live: whistleblower to warn inaction risks 'darkest winter in modern history': Rick Bright: pandemic will ‘get far worse and be prolonged’ without a US response ‘based in science’ New US coronavirus hotspots appear in Trump heartlands Michigan: rightwing militia groups to protest stay-at-home [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/OJjTFS21:49
weimarnetzbot[m]<Arsanerit "weimarnetzbot: It's "arnarfell h"> yup, seems to be a very remote area there, just get a few results... funnily, in my own language (german)21:59
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: First results from serosurvey in Spain reveal a 5% prevalence with wide heterogeneity by region (83 votes) | https://redd.it/gj4jx522:12
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 20:09 UTC: Republicans release list of Obama officials who sought to 'unmask' Flynn, including Biden – live: List was released by Senators Ron Johnson and Chuck Grassley James Comey, John Brennan and James Clapper among officials listed Rick Bright: pandemic will ‘get far worse and be prolonged’ without a US response [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/OJjTFS22:17
DocScrutinizer05>>they are used to app that show if the person you meet is a second or third cousin<< wait what? they have a dating app that makes sure you don't practice incest?22:19
BrainstormUpdates for Peru: +4247 cases (now 76306), +112 deaths (now 2169) since a day ago — Massachusetts, US: +1165 cases (now 80497), +174 deaths (now 5315) since 23 hours ago — Illinois, US: +1677 cases (now 84698), +191 deaths (now 3792) since a day ago — Tennessee, US: +259 cases (now 16370), +8 deaths (now 273) since a day ago22:21
BrainstormNew from BBC Health at 20:11 UTC: (news): Coronavirus: Up to 100 children affected by rare inflammatory reaction → https://is.gd/ImfVtj22:24
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 20:28 UTC: Republicans release list of Obama officials who sought to 'unmask' Flynn, including Biden – live: List was released by Senators Ron Johnson and Chuck Grassley James Comey, John Brennan and James Clapper among officials listed Rick Bright: pandemic will ‘get far worse and be prolonged’ without a US response [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/OJjTFS22:38
spectr0[m]%data russia22:41
Brainstormspectr0[m]: In Russia, there have been 242271 confirmed cases (0.2% of the population) and 2212 deaths (0.9% of cases) as of 12 hours ago. 6.0 million tests were performed (4.1% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 0.3% (assuming deaths/cases with ⅔ undetected), and less than 4.4% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Russia for time series data.22:41
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 20:30 UTC: Care workers: Ministers were warned two years ago of care homes' exposure to pandemics → https://is.gd/dlwyhA22:52
pyna"By the end of the month, roughly twenty per cent of the nearly seven hundred confirmed cases of covid-19 in Guatemala were people who had been deported from the U.S." https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-trump-administrations-deportation-policy-is-spreading-the-coronavirus22:53
pyna"The flights resumed, and, a few days later, Guatemala’s health minister, Hugo Monroy, announced that between fifty and seventy-five per cent of deportees who had just arrived in the country were found to be infected. In mid-April, the authorities said that seventy-four cases had originated from just two deportation flights. U.S. officials considered this an exaggeration, and sent scientists from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to conduct ...22:55
pyna... tests. Those results confirmed the Guatemalan government’s analysis: when twelve deportees were selected at random, they all tested positive."22:55
BrainstormUpdates for California, US: +1365 cases (now 72506), +1 deaths (now 2935) since 2 hours ago — Ivory Coast: +55 cases (now 1912), +3 deaths (now 24) since 21 hours ago — Wyoming, US: +13 cases (now 688) since 23 hours ago — Connecticut, US: +522 cases (now 34855), +84 deaths (now 3125) since a day ago23:06
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 20:54 UTC: Republicans release list of Obama officials who sought to 'unmask' Flynn, including Biden – live: List was released by Senators Ron Johnson and Chuck Grassley James Comey, John Brennan and James Clapper among officials listed Rick Bright: pandemic will ‘get far worse and be prolonged’ without a US response [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/OJjTFS23:07
pynathe cognitive dissonance...it burns23:18
BrainstormNew from BBC Health at 21:14 UTC: (news): Coronavirus: Up to 100 children affected by rare inflammatory reaction → https://is.gd/ImfVtj23:21
BrainstormUpdates for Cameroon: +111 cases (now 2800), +11 deaths (now 136) since a day ago — Utah, US: +188 cases (now 6620), +2 deaths (now 75) since a day ago — South Carolina, US: +103 cases (now 8030), +7 deaths (now 362) since a day ago — New Jersey, US: +79 cases (now 142789), +11 deaths (now 9714) since 3 hours ago23:21
redlanternhmm looks un-covid related23:22
tinwhiskers"Up to 100 children in the UK have been affected by a rare inflammatory disease linked to coronavirus, medics say"23:29
bin_bashis that the kawasaki disease thing23:30
tinwhiskersyeah, similar to23:30
bin_bashis there a link without a redirect 23:31
bin_bashi guess i can just google it23:31
tinwhiskershttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-5264855723:31
tinwhiskersWhy can't you use a redirect?23:32
bin_bashthx23:32
bin_bashi dont like link shorteners23:32
bin_bashespecially if theyre not necessary23:32
bin_bash>>23:33
bin_bash"This shouldn't stop parents letting their children exit lockdown," Prof Viner added. 23:33
bin_bashuhhh this confuses me greatly23:33
bin_bashthey're encouraging people to go out??23:34
foncusedour government have been giving the most confusing and unclear guidance throughout this whole thing23:34
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 21:30 UTC: Republicans release list of Obama officials who sought to 'unmask' Flynn, including Biden – live: List was released by Senators Ron Johnson and Chuck Grassley James Comey, John Brennan and James Clapper among officials listed Rick Bright: pandemic will ‘get far worse and be prolonged’ without a US response [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/OJjTFS23:35
foncusedits a national joke here, go out, stay home, go to work, dont go to work23:35
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Unveiling ‘Warp Speed,’ the White House’s America-first push for a coronavirus vaccine (80 votes) | https://redd.it/girerv23:37
redlanternfoncused: where's that?23:39
redlanternCoronaBot: beam me up scotty 23:39
bin_bashthe uk i assume based on context23:40
BrainstormNew from Ars Technica at 21:35 UTC: Science: Stacked coffins in mass graves: COVID-19 ravages Latin America → https://is.gd/hxSzgq23:49
BrainstormUpdates for Uganda: +10 cases (now 139) since a day ago — Brazil: +4044 cases (now 185562), +307 deaths (now 13010) since an hour ago — Kentucky, US: +227 cases (now 7080), +5 deaths (now 326) since 23 hours ago — Texas, US: +448 cases (now 42967), +10 deaths (now 1204) since 49 minutes ago23:52
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 21:53 UTC: Georgia tries to balance pressure to reopen economy with threat of coronavirus resurgence: Georgia's new coronavirus cases have plateaued, but it could take until the end of the month to know the effects of reopening the economy. → https://is.gd/ZHwCEC23:56
nixonixyeah i never click those short links. copy paste the title instead to search. i wish they would be original links instead...23:56

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