libera/##covid-19/ Friday, 2020-05-15

BrainstormUpdates for Guinea: +99 cases (now 2473), +1 deaths (now 15) since a day ago — World: +106 cases (now 4.5 million), +168 deaths (now 302626) since 16 minutes ago — Massachusetts, US: +167 deaths (now 5482) since 16 minutes ago — US: +167 deaths (now 86770) since 16 minutes ago00:05
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 22:13 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Nascar to return to Georgia in June without fans, New Jersey beaches to reopen → https://is.gd/U0S0xE00:17
BrainstormUpdates for Missouri, US: +200 cases (now 10555), +4 deaths (now 566) since 2 hours ago — Gabon: +100 cases (now 1104), +1 deaths (now 10) since 22 hours ago — Colombia: +680 cases (now 13610), +16 deaths (now 525) since 22 hours ago — Congo: +58 cases (now 391), +4 deaths (now 15) since 2 days ago00:20
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 22:17 UTC: Health: Coronavirus Australia live news: mental health plan a top priority for national cabinet – latest updates → https://is.gd/QCq6ao00:24
adventurerhttp://covid19.health.gov.mw/ < website down00:27
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 22:35 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Nascar to return to Georgia in June without fans, New Jersey beaches to reopen → https://is.gd/U0S0xE00:38
pynahttps://i.imgur.com/blBnf2X.gifv00:45
LjLi mean, it could have been more voila-like, but fair enough00:53
ryoumait occurs to me that large sections of the economy could be redone, or perhaps are being redone, surreptitiously by legislators, merely by when stuff opens and closes00:54
ryoumalike, if they wanted to consolidate an industry around the well-capitalized players00:55
LjLryouma, they gave amazon the perfect opportunity to consolidate EVERYTHING but amazon botched it pretty badly00:58
ryoumawhat did they and they respectively do?00:59
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 22:55 UTC: Coronavirus live news: Confirmed global death toll passes 300,000: Infections near 4.5m; Europe halts delivery of faulty Chinese face masks; WHO says Covid-19 may never go; thirty-six million Americans now unemployed → https://is.gd/gITGtR00:59
LjLryouma, well in much of western europe, shops and stores selling "non-essential" goods were closed, but amazon could still operate and sell those things... but instead, they became slower and slower and things went more and more out of stock and now a "good" Prime delivery is one that takes a week01:00
ryoumawill there be countries where covid is a major problem for years and countries like taiwan where it is not, and clear border separation?  that could change geopolitics a bit depending on the countries01:01
ryouma(dunno if it really is under control in taiwan; maybe they could get hit)01:01
LjLi can sort of understand the "slot lottery" with online supermarkets (well i don't really since it's full of unemployed people now and at the same time their delivery people are overworked, so uhm, why not hire more?) but amazon would have demonstrated skills by acting swiftly to make up for the changes01:01
ryoumathey were trying to shift to essential items01:02
ryoumaof course what's essential differs by customer01:02
LjLryouma, it's not even under control in Wuhan where they had no cases for quite a while then suddenly, more cases... i think perhaps the tinwhiskers-type country is the only type that can say "it's safe"01:02
LjLryouma, that was an excuse to explain the delay, or they tried but didn't succeed very much. i've looked at food items, medical items, simple household items... they were all unessential enough to be largely unavailable even some of the most mundane ones01:03
ryoumai kind of stopped looing at amazon because i couldn't make sense of any of it01:04
ryoumaslot lottery?01:06
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 22:57 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Nascar to return to Georgia in June without fans, New Jersey beaches to reopen → https://is.gd/U0S0xE01:06
BrainstormUpdates for French Guiana: +11 cases (now 164) since a day ago — Brazil: +1552 cases (now 202918), +63 deaths (now 13993) since 48 minutes ago — New Mexico, US: +139 cases (now 5503), +11 deaths (now 242) since 23 hours ago — Arkansas, US: +130 cases (now 4366), +1 deaths (now 98) since 23 hours ago01:07
LjLryouma, most deliveries (not amazon, more like supermarket deliveries) use delivery slots, you pick the hours for delivery, except you don't really "pick" them these days because what happens is you keep refreshing until by sheer luck a new slot "opens" and you manage to secure it before someone else does01:08
LjLin America there are enough stores doing this that someone even made a site to *monitor* slots in many different stores for you and send you an email when a new slot opens01:08
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 23:09 UTC: Health: Coronavirus Australia live news: mental health plan a top priority for national cabinet – latest updates → https://is.gd/QCq6ao01:20
BrainstormUpdates for Somaliland: +14 cases (now 70) since 22 hours ago — Vietnam: +24 cases (now 312) since 7 days ago — El Salvador: +3 deaths (now 23) since 16 hours ago — Nebraska, US: +341 cases (now 9416), +6 deaths (now 113) since 23 hours ago01:22
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 23:25 UTC: An early believer in Moderna Therapeutics on the core investing lesson behind a big coronavirus bet: A venture capitalist and former Gates Foundation investor familiar with Covid-19 vaccine contender Moderna Therapeutics weighs in on how to think about investing during the coronavirus pandemic. → https://is.gd/mmy26o01:27
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test) at 23:34 UTC: nCoV: Thu. 05/14 - How To Beat COVID-19 and Save The Economy (RT 20:11) | 14MAY20 → https://is.gd/aqW03A01:42
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 23:40 UTC: Health: Coronavirus Australia live news: mental health plan a top priority for national cabinet – latest updates → https://is.gd/QCq6ao01:49
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 23:53 UTC: An early believer in Moderna Therapeutics on the core investing lesson behind a big coronavirus bet: A venture capitalist and former Gates Foundation investor familiar with Covid-19 vaccine contender Moderna Therapeutics weighs in on how to think about investing during the coronavirus pandemic. → https://is.gd/mmy26o01:56
BruntLIVE!corona01:58
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: Canada wants to extend U.S. travel ban (10257 votes) | https://redd.it/gju9e002:00
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 23:53 UTC: Health: Coronavirus Australia live news: mental health plan a top priority for national cabinet – latest updates → https://is.gd/QCq6ao02:03
BruntLIVEUS down to 150 mil? will it get that bad02:03
BruntLIVElike the start of ZombieLand, white house all gone, president limo turned over02:03
LjL?02:03
ryoumawhere did you hear that?02:24
BrainstormNew from BBC Health at 00:17 UTC: Coronavirus: Mental health of NHS staff at long-term risk: Trauma experts say NHS staff are a high-risk group for PTSD in the aftermath of the pandemic. → https://is.gd/UijYsL02:24
ryoumai really wish trauma would have a single meaning02:24
ryoumaalthought that is nothing compared to the ened for mental health to ahve a single meaning02:25
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 00:28 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Nascar to return to Georgia in June without fans, New Jersey beaches to reopen → https://is.gd/U0S0xE02:31
BrainstormUpdates for Washington, US: +379 cases (now 18660), +10 deaths (now 993) since an hour ago — US: +1150 cases (now 1.5 million), +35 deaths (now 86900) since an hour ago — Alabama, US: +133 cases (now 11101), +6 deaths (now 473) since 4 hours ago — Texas, US: +144 cases (now 44775), +5 deaths (now 1258) since an hour ago02:37
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 00:28 UTC: Health: Coronavirus Australia live news: Julia Gillard backs call for independent inquiry into Covid-19 origins –  latest updates → https://is.gd/QCq6ao02:38
pynahttps://i.redd.it/0a8yhb8bajy41.png02:51
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 00:43 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Nascar to return to Georgia in June without fans, New Jersey beaches to reopen → https://is.gd/U0S0xE02:52
Gues5922https://graphics.reuters.com/HEALTH-CORONAVIRUS/USA-TRENDS/dgkvlgkrkpb/index.html02:57
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 00:54 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: White House likely to support new round of stimulus checks, 6th Amazon worker dies from virus → https://is.gd/U0S0xE02:59
pynamy favorite branch of statistics is oreo lies https://i.redd.it/sn3d8y100fy41.jpg02:59
Gues5922great another $1200  that will keep them feed and housed03:00
pynahttps://i.redd.it/4ajli19sydy41.jpg03:05
adventurerhttps://twitter.com/lewis_wrighty/status/1260328273499901961?s=2003:22
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 01:19 UTC: (news): Coronavirus updates: Brazil reports new high of over 13,000 cases; U.S. retail sales set for record plunge → https://is.gd/EXYCnO03:27
pynacan't find my headphones so havent clicked yet, but looking for them cause i've been wondering how people that were around for polio feel, and i wonder if hes' gonna say anything about polio03:28
adventurerHe said it is worse than war because it's unseen03:31
adventurersomething like that03:31
adventurerdon't think he  mentioned polio03:32
pynait's my falling asleep thought that i haven't managed to search about yet :|03:34
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 01:32 UTC: An early believer in Moderna Therapeutics on the core investing lesson behind a big coronavirus bet: A venture capitalist and former Gates Foundation investor familiar with Covid-19 vaccine contender Moderna Therapeutics weighs in on how to think about investing during the coronavirus pandemic. → https://is.gd/mmy26o03:34
BrainstormUpdates for Mexico: +2409 cases (now 42595), +257 deaths (now 4477) since a day ago — Haiti: +39 cases (now 273), +2 deaths (now 20) since a day ago — North Carolina, US: +300 cases (now 16996), +4 deaths (now 641) since 8 hours ago — Panama: +174 cases (now 9118), +4 deaths (now 260) since 23 hours ago03:37
Trippy72394Can anyone please tell me: Are people afraid to eat in resturants in New Zealand? How back to normal are things in terms of retail and the general economy?03:49
Trippy72394Oh, and a friend in Shenzhen, China says restaurants are back to being busy, like normal. Here in Haikou, Hainan, China, restaurants are so, so dead, along with most retail.03:49
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 01:49 UTC: (news): Coronavirus updates: Brazil reports new high of over 13,000 cases; U.S. retail sales set for record plunge → https://is.gd/EXYCnO03:55
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 01:49 UTC: (news): Coronavirus updates: Brazil reports new high of over 13,000 cases; U.S. retail sales set for record plunge → https://is.gd/EXYCnO03:55
LjLTrippy72394, we have someone from New Zealand here but they don't live there right now04:05
LjLbut maybe they'll be able to tell you something when they're around04:06
Trippy72394Okay thank you very much!04:06
LjLi am in Italy... here restaurants are all still closed04:06
Trippy72394Wow. By law?04:06
LjLthey are due to reopen on May 18, but i'm not sure if they will everywhere04:06
LjLyeah04:06
Trippy72394And clothing shops?04:06
LjLmany shops/stores are also still closed by law04:06
Trippy72394wow04:06
LjLi'm not sure about clothing, there was a bit of arguing over that04:06
LjLinitially they closed clothing stores, and it was ridiculous because even supermarkets that had a bit of clothing had to make it a "forbidden zone"04:07
BrainstormUpdates for Guatemala: +176 cases (now 1518) since a day ago — Brazil: +247 cases (now 203165), +6 deaths (now 13999) since 3 hours ago — World: +451 cases (now 4.5 million), +6 deaths (now 303473) since 36 minutes ago — South Korea: +27 cases (now 11018) since a day ago04:07
LjLsome things reopened on May 4 but i'm not sure which ones, probably clothing shops reopened, though04:07
LjLbut you know, clothes can be pretty essential, but they are also pretty... risky04:07
Trippy72394I wonder if people will return to those restuarants and shops. So strange to see the diff between Haikou and Shenzhen. Not sure why it's so dead in Haikou. Shock? Fear of covid? Anticipation of bad economic times ahead? Nobody knows.04:07
Trippy72394I guess clothes can be had online04:08
LjLTrippy72394, i don't know, it's not being the same in every part of Europe either... there were articles earlier talking about bars and restaurants staying closed in Germany *despite* the legal reopening... while in the US (okay, well, that's not Europe) shops and restaurants are fighting to *open*04:09
Trippy72394This is going to be quite a ride for the next few years, if we survive a possible war, what with USA now increasing presence in the South China sea -- an accient waiting to happen.04:09
Trippy72394Yes, I hear bars are busy in USA.04:09
Trippy72394I can't figure this one out.04:09
Trippy72394Time will tell, I suppose.04:09
Trippy72394This is a whole planet full of people all not having a clue what's around the corner.04:10
tinwhiskersOh, hey Trippy72394!04:10
Trippy72394My kingdom for a nearby planet from which to watch this @%$%show.04:10
Trippy72394hi tin!04:10
Trippy72394How's the lovely blue view?04:10
tinwhiskersIt's... Lovely04:11
Trippy72394You know NZ, so what's the word about retail?04:11
Trippy72394Restuarants and shops getting customers back?04:11
tinwhiskersYeah, max groups of ten in restaurants04:11
Trippy72394Busy?04:11
Trippy72394Lots of customers?04:12
Trippy72394Tell NZ to make cheddar and export it to China. We're all out of the good English stuff, due to horrid covid.04:12
tinwhiskersHeh04:13
tinwhiskersI'm not really sure how busy they are since I'm not there04:13
tinwhiskersI know that the takeaway places like McDonald's were backed up for miles when they went to level 304:14
Trippy72394If you speak to friends over there, do ask. 04:14
Trippy72394I see.04:14
tinwhiskersOne sec...04:14
Trippy72394Yes, Haikou is teeming with Kangaroo workers. They are those takeout delivery boys on electric bikes.04:15
nbso, starting 11May restaraunts may open their dining room in Indiana at 50% capacity, but there have been several restaraunts in my city that have said they will not open their dining rooms yet04:15
tinwhiskersAh. 04:15
Trippy72394thanks nb04:15
nbbars have to remain closed, although bars with dining rooms may open their dining rooms but not their bars areas04:15
Trippy72394For USA, that all sounds quite dangerous04:16
Trippy72394That virus is still loose.04:16
tinwhiskersBars are open in NZ but max groups of ten and table service only.04:16
tinwhiskersOh, and not all bars04:16
Trippy72394Ten is a lot, but your country is virus free.04:16
tinwhiskersOnly ones that double as restaurants I think04:16
LjLthe virus is still loose almost everywhere, to be fair. europe is reopening because it kind of has to, not because the virus is gone...04:16
Trippy72394Understood.04:17
Trippy72394But NZ is pretty virus free, has good testing and contact tracing, and can really play whack a mole.04:17
Trippy72394Just like China04:17
LjLyeah, and geographically advantaged, hopefully will play it right04:17
tinwhiskersTrippy72394: friend says NZ is still pretty quiet but it's a bit soon to say since it's only the second day. People seem to be being cautious though and not going mad about it04:18
Trippy72394When this is over, NZ people should crowd source for a statue of Jacinda Ardern04:18
Trippy72394Yes, the island thing.04:18
Trippy72394Taiwan, NZ, Hainan, etc.04:18
Trippy72394Singapore really dropped the ball, though.04:18
Trippy72394thanks tin.04:18
LjLtinwhiskers, here it's way too full of people already, and there was no real reopening, in the law... people could go back to work, that was it, plus some "small adjustments"... that somehow resulted in full parks04:18
Trippy72394I do hope it picks up in NZ. Seems like a little flame that can grow or go out.04:19
LjLTrippy72394, well Singapore seemed to be doing well... maybe they got overconfident, i dunno what happened04:19
Trippy72394Overconfident perhaps. 04:19
tinwhiskersYeah, well I have a bet in place saying NZ will fail to eliminate it, but I'll be happy to be proved wrong.04:20
Trippy72394Maybe these leaders open too soon to grab a bit of advantage using the shock doctrine.04:20
Trippy72394I'm sure NZ will get  cases again, like China. It's a question of whether they can stamp out the little fires here and there.04:21
LjLi think countries in Europe basically raced to reopen. somehow we were suddenly all opening around May 4 (that particular day for Spain and Italy, close for others)04:21
tinwhiskersTrippy72394: we were looking at the WHO timeline the other day and was wondering how it matches up with what you heard on the media inside China, and also what you heard on the grapevine (https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/27-04-2020-who-timeline---covid-19)04:21
Trippy72394China is getting in good practice 04:21
Trippy72394checking...04:21
Trippy72394that link doesn't work04:21
tinwhiskershttps://www.who.int/news-room/detail/27-04-2020-who-timeline---covid-1904:22
tinwhiskersclosing bracket probably04:22
Trippy72394tin, works now, thanks.04:22
BrainstormUpdates for Bolivia: +224 cases (now 3372), +10 deaths (now 152) since a day ago — Honduras: +63 cases (now 2318), +10 deaths (now 133) since a day ago — World: +287 cases (now 4.5 million), +20 deaths (now 303493) since 26 minutes ago04:22
Trippy72394LjL, understood. Why on earth didn't they divide areas of the country into zones and open up safe zones?04:23
tinwhiskersagreed04:23
Trippy72394tin: before i read that, yes, you are right, there were clusters in china that weren't just people at the border coming in and getting tested positive.04:23
Trippy72394I read in China new papers that cases just appeared in the city. No clue how they just appeared but would love to know.04:24
tinwhiskersoh, I wasn't really suggesting anything about that04:24
Trippy72394I know.04:24
tinwhiskersok04:24
LjLTrippy72394, i don't know, there was a big discussion about that in Italy, whether to reopen all at once, our each region separately, but the central government kept saying "we're reopening everything but monitoring locally and closely". except... bollocks, they can't monitor closely enough, they obviously can't. i think it boils down to not wanting to risk the regional governments to each do their own thing and get out of control04:24
Trippy72394yes that who link looks right04:25
Trippy72394LjL, that makes sense.04:25
Trippy72394You really need a top down govt for this virus, eh.04:25
LjLsupposedly all of Wuhan will get tested now... but i'm not sure how that will help. by the time you've tested 11 million people, you will have a LOT of contacts to trace...?04:25
Trippy72394Yes, as for China, it does look like they tried to bury it for a few days, and shouldn't have. But that's not for sure. Any country's govt might have done that. 04:26
Trippy72394And they nailed that doctor for whistleblowing because he hit social media, which is a no-no here, because it causes panic. He alerted people in his realm privately and was taken seriously I reckon.04:27
Trippy72394LjL good point.04:27
BrainstormNew from Ars Technica at 02:17 UTC: Science: COVID-19 linked to 30-fold increase in rare childhood inflammatory disease → https://is.gd/rDaABJ04:28
Trippy72394I also wonder how they do contact tracing. I think their facial recognition thing is not as good as people fear. Plus, with masks it's useless. I wonder if they do mobile phone GPS tracing, if that is even a thing.04:28
Trippy72394tinwhiskers: can people land a fishing boat there from elsewhere, bringing the virus to Tonga?04:30
Trippy72394We actually have spotters here on the beaches watching for fishing boats doing just that.04:30
tinwhiskersThe "navy" is out patrolling for incoming boats04:30
Trippy72394tin: that's smart. 04:30
Trippy72394Keep Tonga safe.04:31
tinwhiskerspeople are also encouraged to report any unknown vessels04:31
Trippy72394really? brilliant.04:31
Trippy72394So, no virus. You're all set. Now, all you need is safe NZ tourists and better food. :)04:31
tinwhiskersthey are also requiring people phone in to let them know if they are sailing around within the country otherwise they will be boarded.04:31
LjLphone tracing is definitely a thing, although it's usually not done with GPS... but there are enough wifi and bluetooth beacons around most urbanized places, with some organization individual phones can be traced with those alone. but also if you control the towers, you can triangulate.04:31
Trippy72394LjL, understood.04:32
Trippy72394So, if a positive case goes into a supermarket in Wuhan, how on Earth do they find all their contacts?04:32
Trippy72394How do they find other customers?04:32
tinwhiskersyeah, that's how they do it in NZ04:33
Trippy72394Oh, an aside: What is the % likelihood of a vaccine within the next 2 yrs? Ballpark.04:33
tinwhiskers2 years... mmm. 80-90%?04:33
Trippy72394that's good.04:34
tinwhiskersIt's also pulled from my arse04:34
Trippy72394how they do what in NZ? find people who had contact with a positive case?04:34
tinwhiskersyeah04:34
Trippy72394:)04:34
Trippy72394Okay, so Bob is in the supermarket with covid, and the 30 people also buying stuff at that time get traced via their mobiles?04:35
tinwhiskersin NZ through receipts and other stuff. we don't have mobile tracking yet04:35
tinwhiskersobviously it misses people who pay cash04:36
Trippy72394wow. that is nowhere near thorough enough, right? I mean, people pay cash04:36
Trippy72394right04:36
Trippy72394wow04:36
Trippy72394I have no idea how NZ did such a good job. Maybe they just got on it early.04:36
tinwhiskersit doesn't need to be perfect, but mobiles would certainly help04:36
Trippy72394agree.04:37
BrainstormUpdates for Australia: +30 cases (now 7019) since 23 hours ago — World: +30 cases (now 4.5 million) since 18 minutes ago04:37
LjLtinwhiskers, did you see the Iceland thing with the person saying the app was just a bit short of useless?04:38
LjLdespite being used by 40%, which i reckon is the best you can possibly achieve unless you make it compulsory04:38
tinwhiskersin a lot of cases people know other people by name and there is a lot of phone interviews going on after any positive case is identified04:38
tinwhiskersLjL: no, I hadn't seen that04:39
tinwhiskersthey have literally thousands of case tracking staff. They phone everyone they have receipts for and talk to them about who they saw at the shop, etc, and they end up building a pretty good picture of who there.04:39
tinwhiskersit's very labour intensive04:40
LjLtinwhiskers, https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/05/11/1001541/iceland-rakning-c19-covid-contact-tracing/04:40
Trippy72394:)04:41
Trippy72394thanks for the good info ljl04:41
Trippy72394:)04:41
tinwhiskersheh. gn LjL04:41
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 02:35 UTC: (news): Coronavirus updates: Brazil reports new high of over 13,000 cases; U.S. retail sales set for record plunge → https://is.gd/EXYCnO04:42
tinwhiskersTrippy72394: so when do you think you first heard about the virus from Chinese media, and did you hear about it by word of mouth before you heard from the official media?04:48
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews Live* at 02:47 UTC: /u/slakmehl: The Associated Press su Twitter: "Mexico records its largest one-day rise so far in coronavirus cases, and health officials say the country is at “the most difficult” moment in the pandemic. There were 2,409 new virus confirmations, the first time that number exceeded 2,000 in one day. https://t.co/UyRn2WEzAY" → https://is.gd/jtnGKD04:49
Trippy72394tinwhiskers - i really can't remember04:49
tinwhiskersfair enough04:49
Trippy72394we heard about it when it was in the news04:50
tinwhiskersok04:50
tinwhiskersWell, Beijing News apparently ran an item on Dec 31 after being informed of a possible outbreak on Dec 30 by the Chinese CDC, so it seems there was no suppression of the news inside the country: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bjnews.com.cn%2Fnews%2F2019%2F12%2F31%2F668430.html04:58
Trippy72394i can't use google in china04:58
Trippy72394yes, they really made it know that there was a virus around04:59
tinwhiskersah. http://www.bjnews.com.cn/news/2019/12/31/668430.html04:59
Trippy72394they told the world very early04:59
tinwhiskersif you can read chinese04:59
Trippy72394checking bjnews link...04:59
tinwhiskershat was the same day the WHO was informed, btw.05:00
Trippy72394yep that article sounds right05:00
tinwhiskersok. cool. thanks05:00
Trippy72394you know, they make you take off your shoes in usa airports and there are metal detectors and xray machines and such05:01
Trippy72394and every country just let the virus in05:01
Trippy72394and they blame china?05:01
Trippy72394absurd05:01
tinwhiskersyeah, I find the amount of blame toward china and the WHO to be frustrating but I put it down to human nature.05:02
tinwhiskerswell, that and a bit of propaganda05:02
tinwhiskersmy connection is dropping out. I'll see you round Trippy72394. Thanks.05:02
Trippy72394if a country publicized to the world that a bunch of terrorists with bombs left their country and were headed to other countries and be on the lookout, the other countries would have been on the lookout05:02
Trippy72394other countires just took zero precautions05:03
Trippy72394ok tin05:03
Trippy72394take care05:03
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 02:55 UTC: Health: Coronavirus Australia live news: Scott Morrison to provide update after national cabinet meeting – latest updates → https://is.gd/QCq6ao05:03
BrainstormUpdates for Mayotte, France: +67 cases (now 1210), +2 deaths (now 16) since 23 hours ago — Bermuda, United Kingdom: +1 cases (now 122), +1 deaths (now 9) since a day ago — Cayman Islands, United Kingdom: +7 cases (now 93) since 23 hours ago — New South Wales, Australia: +8 cases (now 3071) since 23 hours ago05:07
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 03:04 UTC: (news): Coronavirus updates: Brazil reports new high of over 13,000 cases; U.S. retail sales set for record plunge → https://is.gd/EXYCnO05:10
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 03:11 UTC: Health: Coronavirus live Australia: Scott Morrison provides  Covid-19 update after national cabinet meeting – latest news → https://is.gd/QCq6ao05:17
BrainstormUpdates for Hamburg, Germany: +196 cases (now 4976), +24 deaths (now 228) since 4 days ago — Bremen, Germany: +77 cases (now 1132), +3 deaths (now 37) since 4 days ago — Lower Saxony, Germany: +221 cases (now 11075), +39 deaths (now 537) since 4 days ago — Berlin, Germany: +121 cases (now 6393), +12 deaths (now 177) since 4 days ago05:22
ryoumaabout 3000 died on 9/1105:30
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 03:25 UTC: Health: Coronavirus live Australia: Scott Morrison provides  Covid-19 update in press conference after national cabinet meeting – latest news → https://is.gd/QCq6ao05:31
tinwhiskersryouma: oh, you just missed Trippy72394 talking about the covid outbreak news from inside China. He said the first they heard from from the official news, not the... err, what was the word you used? grapevine, anyway.05:32
ryoumahmm05:37
tinwhiskerserm. it was you I was talking to about that yesterday wasn't it ryouma?05:37
ryoumaprobably05:38
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Targets of T cell responses to SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus in humans with COVID-19 disease and unexposed individuals (80 votes) | https://redd.it/gjvydx05:43
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 03:39 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: Trump says he could cut China ties as Mexico reports record new infections → https://is.gd/RWnww505:45
BrainstormUpdates for S. Sudan: +1 deaths (now 1) since a day ago — Pakistan: +1430 cases (now 37218), +33 deaths (now 803) since a day ago — World: +1430 cases (now 4.5 million), +33 deaths (now 303531) since 47 minutes ago05:52
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test) at 03:45 UTC: Covid2019: Areas with no social distancing see 35 times the amount of coronavirus spread, study finds → https://is.gd/rIqZTf05:59
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test) at 04:01 UTC: Global COVID Cases For 15MAY20: Current Summary 15MAY20 @ 03:07 UTC Total Cases: 4,440,989 Total Deaths: 302,376 Total Recoveries: 1,587,780 Total Countries: 224 Country e Cases b Deaths f Recoveries g United States h 1,449,347 + 86,542 + 253,292 + Russia i 252,245 2,305 53,530 United Kingdom j 233,151 33,614 + — [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/GNe97N06:06
pynaatay tuned, to find out if trump was serious, kidding, bluffing, double-dog-daring, winning the princess bride cup thing while pretending to lose, or needs to be burped06:11
ryoumaThe policies the researchers studied include bans on large events, shelter-in-place orders and the closure of gyms, bars, restaurants and other businesses.  ---  so this is what htey call social distanceing.  i thought that was a separate category.06:12
pynadid you see the watch that beeps if you are within x of someone else with one? https://www.safespacer.net/06:13
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 04:10 UTC: (news): Coronavirus updates: Germany reports 913 new cases; restaurants reopen in Australia's biggest state → https://is.gd/EXYCnO06:13
pynathat plus a mask on your chin, hello post-plague minimum wage job06:14
ubLXIpyna: "stay tuned", what did he do this time?06:14
pynaaccording to the bot "Trump says he could cut China ties as Mexico reports record new infections"06:15
ubLXIoh06:16
pynaas little as a year ago the more obvious cognitive dissonance about that phrase would have bothered me more06:21
ubLXIprobably just The Guardian's silly headlines06:22
pynathere should be a Brainstorm and a GalaxyBrainstorm06:25
tinwhiskersat least they didn't use "as" and used a semicolon instead. Normally they would have said "Germany reports 913 new cases as restaurants reopen in Australia's biggest state". Maybe enough people have complained?06:25
pynawhen i saw the proximity alarm wouldnt beep unless the other person was wearing one, i scoffed. then i clicked, and realized they're selling to $your_job06:29
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Early Safety Indicators of COVID-19 Convalescent Plasma in 5,000 Patients (81 votes) | https://redd.it/gjv5sk06:32
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 04:30 UTC: Coronavirus live news: China marks one month with no Covid-19 deaths as Brazil cases top 200,000: Trump says he could cut China ties; Mexico sees record increase in cases; EU insists vaccine must be available to all countries. Follow the latest updates → https://is.gd/RWnww506:34
BrainstormUpdates for Kyrgyzstan: +29 cases (now 1111), +2 deaths (now 14) since 23 hours ago — World: +84 cases (now 4.5 million), +2 deaths (now 303533) since 55 minutes ago — India: +55 cases (now 82052) since 7 hours ago06:38
tinwhiskersEarly Safety Indicators of COVID-19 Convalescent Plasma in 5,000 Patients - https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.12.20099879v1.full.pdf - Within four hours of completion of the COVID-19 convalescent plasma transfusion 15 deaths were reported (0.3% of all transfusions) and four of those deaths were judged as related to the transfusion of  COVID-19 convalescent plasma. Although this study was not designed to evaluate efficacy 06:44
tinwhiskersof convalescent plasma we note with optimism the relatively low mortality in treated patients.06:44
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test) at 04:44 UTC: nCoV: How Coronavirus Spreads through the Air: What We Know So Far → https://is.gd/QJaVmK06:49
ryoumathat video by that lung doctor guy who had a beard said that spirometers were 4usd or so.  they are like 200usd on amazon.06:54
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 04:45 UTC: Coronavirus live news: China marks one month with no Covid-19 deaths as Brazil cases top 200,000: Trump says he could cut China ties; Mexico sees record increase in cases; EU insists vaccine must be available to all countries. Follow the latest updates → https://is.gd/RWnww506:56
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 05:00 UTC: Coronavirus latest: at a glance: A summary of the biggest developments in the global coronavirus outbreak → https://is.gd/C9UmbW07:10
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test) at 05:11 UTC: CoronaVirus_ITALIA: Dopo 4 settimane di ricovero per Covid una madre rivede i suoi figli. → https://is.gd/2f828E07:17
BrainstormUpdates for El Salvador: +98 cases (now 1210) since 6 hours ago — Hungary: +37 cases (now 3417), +6 deaths (now 442) since 23 hours ago — World: +193 cases (now 4.5 million), +6 deaths (now 303539) since 56 minutes ago — India: +51 cases (now 82103) since 56 minutes ago07:23
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 05:21 UTC: (news): Coronavirus updates: Germany reports 913 new cases; restaurants reopen in Australia's biggest state → https://is.gd/EXYCnO07:24
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: T cells found in COVID-19 patients ‘bode well’ for long-term immunity (91 votes) | https://redd.it/gk25s207:32
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 05:28 UTC: Health: Coronavirus live Australia: Scott Morrison provides  Covid-19 update in press conference after national cabinet meeting – latest news → https://is.gd/QCq6ao07:38
weimarnetzbot[m]<tinwhiskers "Early Safety Indicators of COVID"> good news07:44
tinwhiskersyeah, the scale (5000) is also good news (actually they did over 8000 patients)07:45
tinwhiskersfor some reason they only reported on the first 5000 patients07:45
weimarnetzbot[m]now it would be nice, if just a little amount of plasma... lets say 20-50ml could help in suppress the symptoms07:47
TargodanRight... 0.3% deaths within four hours of completion. But they report 14.9% deaths within one week or did I misunderstand this?07:50
TargodanOk, read a bit more. Compared to 15-20% mortality rate among hospitalized patients this seems fine.07:54
TargodanSo, we can't really say anything about if the treatment helps (study was not designed for this) it seems the treatment is safe.07:54
tinwhiskersTargodan: that's correct but those were people admitted to ICU, and the average ICU death rate is over 60%07:54
Targodan*but it seems the treatment is safe.07:54
tinwhiskersit's not an efficacy test, as it says07:54
tinwhiskersThe main safety concern with giving broad antibodies rather than monoclonal antibodies is that the antibodies themselves can cause adverse reactions. Seeing it is around 0.3% is very good news.07:56
tinwhiskersit's likely to be very effective provided it's safe.07:57
TargodanThey cited 57% mortality among ICU patients without treatmen.07:58
TargodanMight be I overread it but I think the reported 14.9% are among all participating patients and I haven't seen how many (or if all) of them were admitted to ICU.07:58
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 05:50 UTC: Coronavirus live news: China marks one month with no Covid-19 deaths as Brazil cases top 200,000: Trump says he could cut China ties; Mexico sees record increase in cases; EU insists vaccine must be available to all countries. Follow the latest updates → https://is.gd/RWnww507:59
tinwhiskersYeah, I found that bit pretty confusing too07:59
TargodanBut yeah, that still seems good. I'm just not a fan of people picking out the best numbers of a paper and glossing over the other numbers. ;)07:59
tinwhiskersThey did give a breakdown of ICU vs. severe so you can probably work it out but it wasn't clear.07:59
tinwhiskersI was trying to provide a 1-line summary08:00
tinwhiskersmy apologies08:00
tinwhiskersThe take-home is that 0.3% of patients receiving the plasma had an adverse reaction to it. This study did not look at the efficacy.08:01
weimarnetzbot[m]you did nothing wrong =)08:01
TargodanNo harm done. :) It's a fine line to walk. I totally understand that you want to make it a one-liner so that as many people as possible read it. At the same time I frequently see papers often misrepresented by the press in the same manner and that gets me angry sometimes.08:02
weimarnetzbot[m]could one test ppl for that adverse reaction with small amounts?08:02
BrainstormUpdates for British Virgin Islands: +1 cases (now 8) since 8 days ago — Kazakhstan: +118 cases (now 5689), +2 deaths (now 34) since a day ago — Bulgaria: +38 cases (now 2138), +3 deaths (now 102) since 23 hours ago — World: +164 cases (now 4.5 million), +5 deaths (now 303544) since 51 minutes ago08:08
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 06:16 UTC: (news): Coronavirus updates: Germany reports 913 new cases; restaurants reopen in Australia's biggest state → https://is.gd/EXYCnO08:20
euod[m]tinwhiskers: people have averse reactions to pretty much everything, though.08:26
euod[m]weimarnetzbot: things like that are often done in graduated infusions. start off very slowly, and ramp up over a few hours. prevents having dumped all of a product into someone only to find you fucked up.08:27
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 06:17 UTC: Coronavirus live news: China marks one month with no Covid-19 deaths as Brazil cases top 200,000: Trump says he could cut China ties; Mexico sees record increase in cases; EU insists vaccine must be available to all countries. Follow the latest updates → https://is.gd/RWnww508:27
tinwhiskerssure, and knowing the rate of those adverse reactions is useful. If 50% of people had an adverse reaction then that woul dbe very bad news. That 0.3% of people had an adverse reaction is good news.08:27
euod[m]pretty sure more than 0.3% of people will faint if you put a wide bore needle into their arm to start with :P08:31
tinwhiskersthat is not an adverse reaction!08:31
euod[m]wire bore not because an infusion needs it, but because if shit hits the fan you want an IV already placed :\08:33
tinwhiskersI'm really not sure what you're getting at euod[m].08:33
euod[m]nothing really. I just find the process of infusions interesting. 08:34
tinwhiskersFirst I'm accused of misrepresenting the results and cherry-picking the numbers, and now, what you're disputing the findings with me? I merely reported the results of a trial that was interesting. 08:35
euod[m]I'm not sure how you interpreted musing about infusions as disputing them.08:36
euod[m]they place large IVs for the if things go wrong, I'm not saying that it's common.08:36
euod[m]lots of medicine is planning for the absolute worst by being proactive. 08:36
euod[m]it just amused me when I asked why they were placing an IV the size of the amazon in my arm.08:37
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 06:36 UTC: Coronavirus updates: India's cases near 82,000; Germany adds 913 new infections: India reported another 3,967 cases of the coronavirus disease in the past day, bringing its tally to 81,970, according to the Ministry of Health and Family Welfare. → https://is.gd/EXYCnO08:41
dunnpjust don't look at the needle if it scares you08:49
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 06:42 UTC: Health: Coronavirus live Australia: second McDonald's in Victoria closed over Covid-19 case – latest news → https://is.gd/QCq6ao08:55
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test) at 06:59 UTC: CoronaVirusInfo: Nevada Dental Hygienists concerned about working during COVID-19 pandemic → https://is.gd/mC4w1e09:02
weimarnetzbot[m]<euod[m] "it just amused me when I asked w"> could be worse09:07
weimarnetzbot[m]https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/254493738865_/Klistierspritze-Einlaufspritze-1-H%C3%A4lfte-20-Jhd.jpg09:07
dunnpthat is for enemas..09:09
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 07:02 UTC: Health: Coronavirus live Australia: second McDonald's in Victoria closed over Covid-19 case – latest news → https://is.gd/QCq6ao09:09
weimarnetzbot[m]injections are injections!09:09
weimarnetzbot[m]=D09:10
dunnphttps://www.drmaffet.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/stem-cells-1.jpg09:11
dunnpneedles for bone marrow get me09:12
weimarnetzbot[m]ouch09:12
weimarnetzbot[m]well, then, I would definitely prefer the enema syringe09:15
weimarnetzbot[m]germany now using a 7 day mean for the so called R value09:18
weimarnetzbot[m]if i got that right, it's 0.5 now09:18
weimarnetzbot[m]today another batch of easing lockdown restrictions coming09:19
weimarnetzbot[m]restaurants opening in some states09:20
weimarnetzbot[m]planing to go for lunch09:20
weimarnetzbot[m]but i'm still worried that we don't talk much about air ventilation in closed rooms in the public09:29
weimarnetzbot[m]we know it's bad to hang around in closed rooms, but yet we don't talk about such regulations for that buildings/rooms09:29
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 07:30 UTC: Coronavirus updates: India's cases near 82,000; London's Canary Wharf plans for workers' return: India reported another 3,967 cases of the coronavirus disease in the past day, bringing its tally to 81,970, according to the Ministry of Health and Family Welfare. → https://is.gd/EXYCnO09:37
BrainstormUpdates for Armenia: +184 cases (now 4044), +3 deaths (now 52) since a day ago — Ukraine: +483 cases (now 17330), +20 deaths (now 476) since a day ago — World: +1472 cases (now 4.5 million), +24 deaths (now 303568) since an hour ago — Singapore: +793 cases (now 26891) since a day ago09:38
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 07:32 UTC: Health: Coronavirus live Australia: second McDonald's in Victoria closed over Covid-19 case – latest news → https://is.gd/QCq6ao09:44
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 07:46 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: China marks one month with no Covid-19 deaths as Brazil cases top 200,000 → https://is.gd/RWnww509:58
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 08:05 UTC: Health: Coronavirus live Australia: second McDonald's in Victoria closed over Covid-19 case – latest news → https://is.gd/QCq6ao10:12
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 08:18 UTC: Coronavirus updates: Russia's cases top 262,000; London's Canary Wharf plans for workers' return: The number of cumulative confirmed infections in Russia rose to 262,843 after the country added 10,598 new cases over the last 24 hours, reported Reuters. → https://is.gd/EXYCnO10:27
BrainstormUpdates for Afghanistan: +414 cases (now 6053), +17 deaths (now 153) since 23 hours ago — Russia: +10598 cases (now 262843), +113 deaths (now 2418) since 23 hours ago — World: +12348 cases (now 4.5 million), +194 deaths (now 303762) since an hour ago — Poland: +235 cases (now 17850), +10 deaths (now 893) since 16 hours ago10:38
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 08:29 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Australian government pledges extra $48m to combat mental health impacts of coronavirus → https://is.gd/GCgZQN10:41
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 08:39 UTC: Coronavirus updates: Russia's cases top 262,000; London's Canary Wharf plans for workers' return: The number of cumulative confirmed infections in Russia rose to 262,843 after the country added 10,598 new cases over the last 24 hours, reported Reuters. → https://is.gd/EXYCnO10:48
BrainstormUpdates for Bangladesh: +1202 cases (now 20065), +15 deaths (now 298) since 22 hours ago — World: +1239 cases (now 4.5 million), +15 deaths (now 303777) since 20 minutes ago — Malaysia: +36 cases (now 6855) since 23 hours ago — Hong Kong: +1 cases (now 1053) since 20 hours ago10:53
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: McConnell admits he was wrong to say Obama administration failed to leave pandemic playbook (10100 votes) | https://redd.it/gjzhih10:58
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 08:50 UTC: China: Wuhan residents brave queues as coronavirus mass testing begins → https://is.gd/HMTyB111:02
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 09:05 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: China marks one month with no Covid-19 deaths as Brazil cases top 200,000 → https://is.gd/RWnww511:16
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 09:17 UTC: Coronavirus updates: Russia's cases top 262,000; London's Canary Wharf plans for workers' return: The number of cumulative confirmed infections in Russia rose to 262,843 after the country added 10,598 new cases over the last 24 hours, reported Reuters. → https://is.gd/EXYCnO11:23
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 09:21 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: education leaders to meet government advisers about reopening English schools → https://is.gd/YRBEqm11:30
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 09:35 UTC: Coronavirus updates: Russia's cases top 262,000; London's Canary Wharf plans for workers' return: The number of cumulative confirmed infections in Russia rose to 262,843 after the country added 10,598 new cases over the last 24 hours, reported Reuters. → https://is.gd/EXYCnO11:38
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 09:49 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: China marks one month with no Covid-19 deaths as virus pushes Germany into recession → https://is.gd/RWnww511:59
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus at 10:10 UTC: Coronavirus: German Helmholtz study shows that the optimal reproduction number Rt for exiting the lockdown is 0.75 (key points in English in the comments) → https://is.gd/6h0hvx12:27
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 10:25 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus involved in quarter of care home residents' deaths in England and Wales → https://is.gd/IZ4tuC12:34
BrainstormNew from BMJ at 10:36 UTC: England’s health policy response to covid-19: The UK prime minister, Boris Johnson, announced plans for the next phase of the government’s response to covid-19 on 10 May. This included some changes to social distancing rules, including asking... → https://is.gd/bMXxy212:41
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 10:37 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: education leaders to meet government advisers about reopening English schools → https://is.gd/YRBEqm12:48
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 10:55 UTC: Coronavirus latest: at a glance: A summary of the biggest developments in the global coronavirus outbreak → https://is.gd/OhBKFW13:02
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 11:04 UTC: Coronavirus updates: Russia's cases top 262,000; London's Canary Wharf plans for workers' return: The number of cumulative confirmed infections in Russia rose to 262,843 after the country added 10,598 new cases over the last 24 hours, reported Reuters. → https://is.gd/EXYCnO13:10
BrainstormNew from BMJ at 11:05 UTC: Covid-19: Cases of inflammatory syndrome in children surge after urgent alert: There has been a surge in cases of an inflammatory syndrome in children, believed to be linked to covid-19, following an alert to doctors in the UK at the end of April.1The syndrome, which in the UK... → https://is.gd/mSqg2Q13:17
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 11:16 UTC: (news): Brazil's much-needed economic reforms are being blown off course by the coronavirus → https://is.gd/mRblIV13:24
BrainstormUpdates for Kuwait: +885 cases (now 12860), +8 deaths (now 96) since 22 hours ago — Spain: +1721 cases (now 274367), +138 deaths (now 27459) since 22 hours ago — Belgium: +356 cases (now 54644), +56 deaths (now 8959) since a day ago — World: +3683 cases (now 4.6 million), +212 deaths (now 303989) since 2 hours ago13:24
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test) at 11:25 UTC: nCoV: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Update: FDA Informs Public About Possible Accuracy Concerns with Abbott ID NOW Point-of-Care Test | 14MAY20 → https://is.gd/sldqZ113:31
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 11:45 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: Wales publishes lockdown-easing roadmap with 'stay home' in place for another two weeks → https://is.gd/YRBEqm13:53
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test) at 11:56 UTC: nCoV: Progression of COVID-19 in Indian States - Forecasting Endpoints Using SIR and Logistic Growth Models → https://is.gd/6bZRj014:00
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 12:02 UTC: Russia's cases top 262,000; London's Canary Wharf plans for workers' return: The number of cumulative confirmed infections in Russia rose to 262,843 after the country added 10,598 new cases over the last 24 hours, reported Reuters. → https://is.gd/EXYCnO14:07
BrainstormUpdates for Iran: +2102 cases (now 116635), +48 deaths (now 6902) since 23 hours ago — Sudan: +146 cases (now 1964), +1 deaths (now 91) since a day ago — Portugal: +264 cases (now 28583), +6 deaths (now 1190) since 23 hours ago — Netherlands: +200 cases (now 43681), +53 deaths (now 5643) since 23 hours ago14:09
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 12:15 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: China marks one month with no Covid-19 deaths as virus pushes Germany into recession → https://is.gd/RWnww514:28
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 12:32 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Drive-in theaters offer haven; Slovenia declares an end to pandemic → https://is.gd/Ch4RQL14:35
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 12:50 UTC: German economy in recession as coronavirus hits – business live: Rolling live coverage of business, economics and financial markets as data show the economic toll from the pandemic → https://is.gd/2zI0O814:57
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 12:58 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Retail sales post worst month on record; Denmark sees zero daily deaths → https://is.gd/Ch4RQL15:04
BrainstormUpdates for Saudi Arabia: +2307 cases (now 49176), +9 deaths (now 292) since 23 hours ago — Belarus: +958 cases (now 27730), +5 deaths (now 156) since a day ago — Sweden: +625 cases (now 29207), +117 deaths (now 3646) since a day ago — Brazil: +1630 cases (now 204795), +59 deaths (now 14058) since 11 hours ago15:09
Jigsy%cases UK15:21
BrainstormUpdates for Georgia (US), US: +567 cases (now 36544), +4 deaths (now 1548) since 14 hours ago — Virginia, US: +859 cases (now 28672), +22 deaths (now 977) since 23 hours ago — US: +1426 cases (now 1.5 million), +26 deaths (now 86968) since 23 minutes ago — Azerbaijan: +101 cases (now 2980), +1 deaths (now 36) since 22 hours ago15:21
BrainstormJigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 233151 confirmed cases (0.4% of the population) and 33614 deaths (14.4% of cases) as of 23 hours ago. 2.2 million tests were performed (10.5% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data.15:21
metreo%cases Canada15:24
Brainstormmetreo: In Canada, there have been 73401 confirmed cases (0.2% of the population) and 5472 deaths (7.5% of cases) as of 14 hours ago. 1.2 million tests were performed (6.3% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 2.5% (assuming deaths/cases with ⅔ undetected), and less than 13.2% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Canada for time series data.15:25
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 13:16 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: Welsh schools will not fully reopen until September as 'stay home' advice remains in place → https://is.gd/YRBEqm15:32
BrainstormUpdates for Senegal: +121 cases (now 2310), +2 deaths (now 25) since 23 hours ago — Kansas, US: +15 cases (now 7720), +2 deaths (now 191) since 2 hours ago — World: +136 cases (now 4.6 million), +4 deaths (now 304364) since 21 minutes ago — US: +15 cases (now 1.5 million), +2 deaths (now 86970) since 21 minutes ago15:40
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 13:36 UTC: (news): Microsoft and UnitedHealth offer companies free app to screen employees for coronavirus → https://is.gd/H2pR6N15:40
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 13:43 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Retail sales post worst month on record; Denmark sees zero daily deaths → https://is.gd/Ch4RQL15:47
BrainstormUpdates for Tajikistan: +211 cases (now 1118), +4 deaths (now 33) since a day ago — Mauritania: +6 cases (now 26) since 16 hours ago — World: +217 cases (now 4.6 million), +4 deaths (now 304368) since 31 minutes ago15:55
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 13:54 UTC: German economy in recession as coronavirus hits – business live: Rolling live coverage of business, economics and financial markets as data show the economic toll from the pandemic → https://is.gd/2zI0O816:01
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 13:59 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Retail sales post worst month on record; Denmark sees zero daily deaths → https://is.gd/Ch4RQL16:08
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 14:13 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: Spain hails large-scale antibody study; no Danish virus deaths for first time since March → https://is.gd/RWnww516:15
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 14:16 UTC: Slovenia becomes first European nation to declare an end to its coronavirus epidemic: According to data from Slovenia's Ministry of Health, just one new case of the coronavirus was confirmed on Thursday, with no deaths reported. → https://is.gd/BlRohG16:23
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 14:32 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Retail sales post worst month on record; Denmark sees zero daily deaths → https://is.gd/Ch4RQL16:37
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews Live* at 14:38 UTC: /u/slakmehl: The editors of world's oldest medical journal The Lancet have published a call for the US to elect a President that will restore and empower the CDC. → https://is.gd/idOyzj16:44
BrainstormUpdates for Chile: +2502 cases (now 39542), +26 deaths (now 394) since 23 hours ago — Maryland, US: +1083 cases (now 36986), +45 deaths (now 1911) since a day ago — United Kingdom: +3560 cases (now 236711), +384 deaths (now 33998) since a day ago — United Arab Emirates: +747 cases (now 21831), +2 deaths (now 210) since a day ago16:50
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 14:46 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Retail sales post worst month on record; Denmark sees zero daily deaths → https://is.gd/Ch4RQL16:51
kalakut4!covid US16:56
CoronaBotUSA: Global rank: #1, cases: 1,457,593, fatalities: 86,912, active cases: 1,052,654, total recovered: 318,027, in a serious condition: 16,240. Mortality: 5.96%, case fatality rate: 21.46%, cases/1M: 4407.0, deaths/1M: 263.0. Case rate: 27,246/24h, death rate: 1,715/24h. Tests: 10,638,893, tests/1M: 32,166.16:56
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 14:50 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Microsoft, UnitedHealth offer free screening app; April sales worst on record → https://is.gd/Ch4RQL16:58
BrainstormUpdates for Yemen: +21 cases (now 106), +3 deaths (now 15) since a day ago — World: +42 cases (now 4.6 million), +4 deaths (now 304924) since 16 minutes ago — Cabo Verde: +11 cases (now 326) since 23 hours ago — Nepal: +9 cases (now 267) since 12 hours ago17:05
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 15:09 UTC: (news): Microsoft and UnitedHealth offer companies free app to screen employees for coronavirus → https://is.gd/H2pR6N17:13
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 15:16 UTC: (news): Watch live: World Health Organization holds press conference on the coronavirus outbreak → https://is.gd/UEIwco17:20
LjLtinwhiskers, Spain's data has something very wrong http://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Spain17:22
LjL%cases spain17:22
BrainstormLjL: In Spain, there have been 274367 confirmed cases (0.6% of the population) and 27459 deaths (10.0% of cases) as of 4 hours ago. 2.5 million tests were performed (11.1% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 3.3% (assuming deaths/cases with ⅔ undetected), and less than 12.7% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Spain for time series data.17:22
LjL%cases russia17:23
BrainstormLjL: In Russia, there have been 262843 confirmed cases (0.2% of the population) and 2418 deaths (0.9% of cases) as of 6 hours ago. 6.1 million tests were performed (4.3% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 0.3% (assuming deaths/cases with ⅔ undetected), and less than 4.0% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Russia for time series data.17:23
LjLi'm confused. i thought russia had the most cases after the US now17:23
LjLinstead, Spain is supposedly higher, except on the graph, it isn't, it got trimmed at 23689917:23
LjLwhich i suspect is the correct number17:23
LjLtinwhiskers, predictably, the bogus 274367 is from worldometers (unconfirmed.csv), while the data from covidly is the correct one at 236899, but not sure what's up with the graph17:26
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 15:22 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Microsoft, UnitedHealth offer free screening app; April sales worst on record → https://is.gd/Ch4RQL17:27
elliott1[m]Ok17:27
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 15:29 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: death toll rises by 384 to 33,998; Welsh schools will not fully reopen until September → https://is.gd/YRBEqm17:34
BrainstormUpdates for Greece: +40 cases (now 2810), +4 deaths (now 160) since a day ago — Iowa, US: +374 cases (now 14049), +18 deaths (now 336) since a day ago — Rhode Island, US: +203 cases (now 12219), +11 deaths (now 479) since a day ago — US: +733 cases (now 1.5 million), +29 deaths (now 87054) since 34 minutes ago17:35
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: Japan suicides decline as Covid-19 lockdown causes shift in stress factors (10201 votes) | https://redd.it/gk752117:48
BrainstormUpdates for Kenya: +23 cases (now 781), +3 deaths (now 45) since a day ago — Moldova: +192 cases (now 5745), +8 deaths (now 202) since 22 hours ago — India: +2474 cases (now 85546), +84 deaths (now 2746) since an hour ago — Brazil: +744 cases (now 207251), +85 deaths (now 14216) since an hour ago17:50
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 15:47 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Dog-like robot on social-distancing patrol, cattle rancher in 'survival game' → https://is.gd/Ch4RQL17:55
BrainstormUpdates for Montana, US: +4 cases (now 466) since 2 days ago — Indiana, US: +602 cases (now 26655), +45 deaths (now 1691) since a day ago — Pennsylvania, US: +679 cases (now 63899), +118 deaths (now 4412) since 17 hours ago — Arizona, US: +495 cases (now 13169), +27 deaths (now 651) since 22 hours ago18:05
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 16:04 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: Matt Hancock leads daily government briefing as R rate revealed to be dangerously close to 1 → https://is.gd/YRBEqm18:10
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 16:07 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Dog-like robot on social-distancing patrol, cattle rancher in 'survival game' → https://is.gd/Ch4RQL18:17
BrainstormUpdates for Minnesota, US: +805 cases (now 14240), +11 deaths (now 683) since 23 hours ago — Oklahoma, US: +124 cases (now 5086), +1 deaths (now 285) since 23 hours ago — Turkey: +1708 cases (now 146457), +48 deaths (now 4055) since 23 hours ago — Mississippi, US: +318 cases (now 10801), +13 deaths (now 493) since 23 hours ago18:20
micropollyHi18:35
kalakut4Hello18:36
micropollyNot much activity here...18:37
LjLnot right now, no...18:39
LjLit has dwindled down lately18:39
kalakut4when was the last time it was hot?18:39
LjLit would be a good thing if so had the virus!18:39
kalakut4amen to that18:40
LjLlol i'm not sure, i'd have to grab some irc log analyzer graph thing :P18:40
kalakut4ah18:40
LjLbut sometimes it's still active18:40
LjLit's more discrete conversations, though, than "activity all the time"18:40
kalakut4this chat is probably as active as any on irc18:40
LjLwell besides when i's *too* active it's not even great, becomes hard to follow and sometimes too heated18:41
kalakut4oh good point18:42
kalakut4!covid Singapore18:49
CoronaBotSingapore: Global rank: #27, cases: 26,098, fatalities: 21, active cases: 20,104, total recovered: 5,973, in a serious condition: 20. Mortality: 0.08%, case fatality rate: 0.35%, cases/1M: 4465.0, deaths/1M: 4.0. Case rate: 752/24h, death rate: 0/24h. Tests: 224,262, tests/1M: 38,372.18:49
BrainstormUpdates for S. Sudan: +28 cases (now 231) since 13 hours ago — New York, US: +2443 cases (now 355539), +112 deaths (now 27538) since 16 hours ago — US: +2491 cases (now 1.5 million), +113 deaths (now 87415) since 31 minutes ago — Brazil: +780 cases (now 208031), +51 deaths (now 14267) since an hour ago18:50
micropollykalakut4: Are you from Singapore?19:00
kalakut4ye19:01
jacklswhi neighbour :D19:02
jacklswHow's the CB situation there?19:02
kalakut4where're you from ahaha19:02
kalakut4eh19:02
kalakut4It's a weird situation19:02
kalakut4The general population is doing fine, with about a cases in single digits19:03
micropollySwitzerland19:03
kalakut4The problem is that covid has spread through the migrant workers via their crowded dorms19:03
kalakut4it's a situation the government is desperately trying to make it not a PR mess19:04
kalakut4highlights the plight we put the migrant workers into the first place19:04
kalakut4micropolly: nice19:04
kalakut4jacklsw: how's your situation19:04
kalakut4I realised I didn't even notice that you said CB19:05
jacklswmalaysia19:05
kalakut4LOL19:05
BrainstormUpdates for Chad: +29 cases (now 428), +2 deaths (now 48) since 23 hours ago — Dominican Rep.: +419 cases (now 11739), +2 deaths (now 424) since 23 hours ago — California, US: +82 cases (now 75040), +2 deaths (now 3054) since 5 hours ago — US: +82 cases (now 1.5 million), +2 deaths (now 87417) since 19 minutes ago19:05
jacklswwe are relatively ok. not so much restriction already19:06
kalakut4yea SG trying to be a unique snowflake by calling a lockdown "circuit breaker"19:06
kalakut4nice, got friends in Muar who've been bored to death ahaha19:07
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Reappearance of Effector T Cells Predicts Successful Recovery from COVID-19 (80 votes) | https://redd.it/gk8klr19:13
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 17:10 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: San Francisco plans partial reopen for retail, Manhattan new rentals plummet → https://is.gd/Ch4RQL19:13
ecrockz123!covid india19:19
CoronaBotIndia: Global rank: #12, cases: 81,997, fatalities: 2,649, active cases: 51,379, total recovered: 27,969, in a serious condition: -. Mortality: 3.23%, case fatality rate: 8.65%, cases/1M: 59.0, deaths/1M: 2.0. Case rate: 3,942/24h, death rate: 98/24h. Tests: 1,947,041, tests/1M: 1,413.19:19
micropolly!covid usa19:22
CoronaBotUSA: Global rank: #1, cases: 1,457,593, fatalities: 86,912, active cases: 1,052,654, total recovered: 318,027, in a serious condition: 16,240. Mortality: 5.96%, case fatality rate: 21.46%, cases/1M: 4407.0, deaths/1M: 263.0. Case rate: 27,246/24h, death rate: 1,715/24h. Tests: 10,638,893, tests/1M: 32,166.19:22
micropollyThey always have to be number one, don't they?19:22
kalakut4If you spell "Make America Number 1 Again"19:25
kalakut4it is MAN1A19:25
micropollyThat fits.19:25
kalakut4ahahaha19:25
bin_bashacronymize*19:33
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 17:30 UTC: WHO raises alert on mysterious inflammatory disease in children that may be linked to coronavirus: World health officials are hearing about more cases of an inflammatory disease similar to Kawasaki disease in a few countries, including the United States and Europe, WHO says. → https://is.gd/1lILrl19:34
kalakut4bin_bash: ahaha thanks19:35
kalakut4dang this new disease19:35
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 17:39 UTC: Trump downplays the need for coronavirus vaccine: 'It'll go away at some point': Trump's remarks came at an event unveiling his administration's beefed-up efforts to fast-track the development and distribution of a vaccine for Covid-19. → https://is.gd/cXb6pU19:41
BrainstormNew from Gazzetta Ufficiale italiana at 17:44 UTC: (news): PRESIDENZA DEL CONSIGLIO DEI MINISTRI - IL COMMISSARIO STRAORDINARIO PER L'ATTUAZIONE E IL COORDINAMENTO DELLE MISURE DI CONTENIMENTO E CONTRASTO DELL'EMERGENZA EPIDEMIOLOGICA COVID-19 - ORDINANZA 14 maggio 2020 → https://is.gd/ji5oYD19:48
BrainstormUpdates for Djibouti: +25 cases (now 1309), +1 deaths (now 4) since 22 hours ago — New Jersey, US: +645 cases (now 144669), +192 deaths (now 10138) since 16 hours ago — Louisiana, US: +348 cases (now 33837), +31 deaths (now 2448) since a day ago — Canada: +703 cases (now 74532), +54 deaths (now 5553) since an hour ago19:50
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 17:52 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: San Francisco plans partial reopen for retail, Manhattan new rentals plummet → https://is.gd/Ch4RQL19:55
AtqueHmm, Australia is getting economic sanctions from China due to recommending a review into COVID-19.19:56
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 18:04 UTC: Trump downplays the need for coronavirus vaccine: 'It'll go away at some point': Trump's remarks came at an event unveiling his administration's beefed-up efforts to fast-track the development of a coronavirus vaccine. → https://is.gd/cXb6pU20:10
BrainstormUpdates for South Africa: +785 cases (now 13524), +9 deaths (now 247) since a day ago — Ohio, US: +587 cases (now 26954), +44 deaths (now 1581) since 23 hours ago — South Dakota, US: +95 cases (now 3887), +1 deaths (now 44) since a day ago — Ireland: +129 cases (now 23956), +12 deaths (now 1518) since a day ago20:20
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews Live* at 18:28 UTC: /u/slakmehl: Fact check: Coronavirus vaccine could come this year, Trump says. Experts say he needs a 'miracle' to be right. → https://is.gd/XT0TAM20:31
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 18:35 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: San Francisco plans partial reopen for retail, Manhattan new rentals plummet → https://is.gd/Ch4RQL20:38
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Results released for antibody and COVID-19 testing of Boston residents (80 votes) | https://redd.it/gkcsud20:43
tinwhiskersLjL: yeah, I messaged the owner of covidly about the lack of new case data for spain but I'm not sure he got it.20:47
LjLtinwhiskers, the numbers are actually current though i think. so it's more like... the whole graph is shifted backwards?20:48
tinwhiskersohhh20:48
BrainstormUpdates for Sierra Leone: +39 cases (now 447), +1 deaths (now 27) since a day ago — Peru: +3891 cases (now 84495), +125 deaths (now 2392) since 22 hours ago — Connecticut, US: +621 cases (now 36085), +66 deaths (now 3285) since 22 hours ago — World: +4561 cases (now 4.6 million), +192 deaths (now 306503) since 34 minutes ago20:51
tinwhiskersthe cummulative confirmed cases for spain from shows as 274,367 on worldometers but on 236,899 from covidly20:51
LjLtinwhiskers, yes but i think worldometers is wrong20:51
tinwhiskersoh20:52
LjLtinwhiskers, google (aka wikipedia) agrees with covidly20:52
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 18:47 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Some East Coast beaches to reopen for Memorial Day, air travel ticks higher → https://is.gd/Ch4RQL20:52
LjLand 274k would mean it has surpassed Russia which is unlikely20:52
tinwhiskersok, well if you're correct then tomorrow the total on covidly should be higher than 236,899 20:53
tinwhiskersif that's the case I'll put a fix in place for spain20:53
tinwhiskersanyway, I've exported the data for today so I'll compare it tomorrow and see if it's shifting or something else. 20:59
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Excess mortality from COVID-19. Weekly excess death rates by age and sex for Sweden. (80 votes) | https://redd.it/gkb0b821:01
spectr0[m]!covid russia21:03
CoronaBotRussia: Global rank: #3, cases: 252,245, fatalities: 2,305, active cases: 196,410, total recovered: 53,530, in a serious condition: 2,300. Mortality: 0.91%, case fatality rate: 4.13%, cases/1M: 1729.0, deaths/1M: 16.0. Case rate: 9,974/24h, death rate: 93/24h. Tests: 6,188,102, tests/1M: 42,406.21:03
BrainstormUpdates for Wisconsin, US: +410 cases (now 11685), +11 deaths (now 445) since 23 hours ago — Michigan, US: +497 cases (now 50079), +38 deaths (now 4825) since 23 hours ago — US: +907 cases (now 1.5 million), +49 deaths (now 87822) since 21 minutes ago — World: +931 cases (now 4.6 million), +153 deaths (now 306656) since 21 minutes ago21:06
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Hydroxychloroquine in patients with mainly mild to moderate coronavirus disease 2019: open label, randomised controlled trial (83 votes) | https://redd.it/gk6yw221:07
withorwithoutSpain and France data were always so noisy, for whatever reason21:18
LjLwithorwithout, well one thing is noise in the original data but both covidly and worldometers manage to add their own quirks, sometimes big quirks21:20
LjLcovidly is full of quirks especially for the regional data but sometimes (like now) also for the national data21:20
withorwithoutJHU data is also weird for them, fwiw21:20
LjLon the other hand it *has* regional data, which is something most trackers don't have21:20
BrainstormUpdates for Zimbabwe: +5 cases (now 42) since 2 days ago — Tennessee, US: +271 cases (now 16970), +3 deaths (now 290) since a day ago — US: +372 cases (now 1.5 million), +3 deaths (now 87825) since 23 minutes ago — World: +388 cases (now 4.6 million), +3 deaths (now 306659) since 23 minutes ago21:21
LjLwithorwithout, if JHU data is weird then that's probably at the origin i guess21:21
withorwithoutI guess it may be possible that they are reviewing many post mortem or cases outside hospitals and such, and they collect this data and release it after some time21:22
LjLwithorwithout, some spikes in France were definitely due to adding nursing home cases/deaths21:23
BrainstormUpdates for Ecuador: +965 cases (now 31467), +256 deaths (now 2594) since 23 hours ago — Brazil: +4167 cases (now 212198), +188 deaths (now 14455) since 2 hours ago — World: +5490 cases (now 4.6 million), +454 deaths (now 307113) since 18 minutes ago — US: +345 cases (now 1.5 million), +10 deaths (now 87835) since 18 minutes ago21:36
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 19:39 UTC: Coronavirus US live: Trump's press conference disrupted by trucker protest: Truckers have been protesting over low rates of shipping Nancy Pelosi: bill is a ‘starting point’ for negotiations World looks on in horror as Trump flails despite claims US leads way US coronavirus hotspots linked to meat processing [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/DhvGzl21:48
Haley[mt][m]!cases france21:49
CovBotIn France there have been a total of 178,870 cases as of 2020-05-15 19:30:00 UTC. Of these 90,893 (50.8%) are still sick or may have recovered without being recorded, 60,448 (33.8%) have definitely recovered and 27,529 (15.4%) have died.21:49
aradeshi went out today, and it was very busy out. some people were wearing masks, but there were loads of cars, and lots of people...21:59
aradeshour number of cases graph does finally start to look like it's going down now though :)22:00
aradeshUK daily confirmed cases ggraph https://x0.at/RWQ.png22:01
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 19:57 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Trump says 'vaccine or no vaccine, we're back;' cities cap food delivery fees → https://is.gd/Ch4RQL22:02
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 20:01 UTC: Trump downplays the need for coronavirus vaccine: 'It'll go away at some point': Trump's remarks came at an event unveiling his administration's beefed-up efforts to fast-track the development of a coronavirus vaccine. → https://is.gd/cXb6pU22:09
micropollyHe'll go away at some point too.22:22
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 20:15 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Trump says 'vaccine or no vaccine, we're back;' cities cap food delivery fees → https://is.gd/Ch4RQL22:23
withorwithoutDo you know how could I search within a subreddit? In the website22:32
BrainstormUpdates for US: +5042 cases (now 1.5 million), +280 deaths (now 88115) since an hour ago — Illinois, US: +2432 cases (now 90369), +130 deaths (now 4058) since a day ago — Massachusetts, US: +1239 cases (now 83421), +110 deaths (now 5592) since 22 hours ago — New Jersey, US: +377 cases (now 145391), +10 deaths (now 10148) since an hour ago22:36
Haley[mt][m]!cases UK22:38
CovBotIn United Kingdom there have been a total of 236,711 cases as of 2020-05-15 20:18:00 UTC. Of these 202,713 (85.6%) are still sick or may have recovered without being recorded, 0 (0.0%) have definitely recovered and 33,998 (14.4%) have died.22:39
LjLwithorwithout, they have a search function on the page22:41
LjLsometimes it doesn't work great, but it's definitely there22:41
LjLhttps://www.reddit.com/wiki/search has information on the syntax22:41
withorwithoutLjL: ah yeah, I have to click another thing to get results from the subreddit, it searches all reddit first22:42
withorwithouthow annoying xD22:42
withorwithoutthanks22:42
LjLwithorwithout, that's a weird thing, with some subreddit, the box is checked by default, with others it appears not to be22:44
LjLit's probably something mods can set for each subreddit although i'm not sure the rationale22:44
withorwithoutSo, any news on the false-negative rate thing? As per https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-149522:47
BrainstormUpdates for California, US: +1380 cases (now 76420), +75 deaths (now 3129) since 3 hours ago — Togo: +25 cases (now 263) since a day ago — US: +1658 cases (now 1.5 million), +95 deaths (now 88210) since 18 minutes ago — Texas, US: +142 cases (now 45340), +16 deaths (now 1288) since 18 minutes ago22:51
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 20:37 UTC: Coronavirus US live: Trump's press conference disrupted by trucker protest: Truckers have been protesting over low rates of shipping Nancy Pelosi: bill is a ‘starting point’ for negotiations World looks on in horror as Trump flails despite claims US leads way US coronavirus hotspots linked to meat processing [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/DhvGzl22:51
ryoumamaybe a silly question, but how long does sars-cov-2 stay on skin?  suppose you walk in a high-risk place in your shoes, then walk barefoot where you walked with your shoes, then touch your bare soles with your hands.  are your hands ok wrt that virus?22:55
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 20:56 UTC: WHO raises alert on mysterious inflammatory disease in children that may be linked to coronavirus: World health officials are hearing about more cases of an inflammatory disease similar to Kawasaki disease in a few countries and regions, including the United States and Europe, the WHO says. → https://is.gd/1lILrl22:58
withorwithoutryouma: I guess not, just wash your hands?22:59
ryoumawithorwithout: not always possible23:01
ryoumajust wodnering if skin is more like cardboard, or like stainless, or like paper money, or like outside of mask23:02
tinwhiskerstake your shoes off outside the house. don't walk barefoot where people have been walking with shoes. 23:02
tinwhiskersthere is no answer to your question. It depends what surfaces you have been walking on (grass? concrete? carpet?), for how long, etc.23:04
tinwhiskersand of course we don't have any data to that sort of detail yet, and I doubt we ever will.23:05
BrainstormNew from The Guardian at 20:58 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: Europe could face deadly second wave of winter infections, WHO warns → https://is.gd/RWnww523:05
BrainstormUpdates for Costa Rica: +1 deaths (now 9) since an hour ago — Florida, US: +928 cases (now 44138), +41 deaths (now 1917) since a day ago — US: +954 cases (now 1.5 million), +57 deaths (now 88267) since 16 minutes ago — New York, US: +75 cases (now 355957), +11 deaths (now 27561) since 16 minutes ago23:06
bin_bashhttps://i.imgur.com/rksb6Pj.jpg23:09
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health at 21:08 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Trump says 'vaccine or no vaccine, we're back;' cities cap food delivery fees → https://is.gd/Ch4RQL23:12
nixonixhttps://www.sciencealert.com/this-demonstration-shows-just-how-easily-an-infection-spreads-through-contact23:24
nixonix%title23:24
Brainstormnixonix: From www.sciencealert.com: Unnerving Video Shows Just How Easily an Infection Can Spread Through Contact23:25
nixonixthere's a tweet link for video in the article23:25
BrainstormUpdates for Bahrain: +1 cases (now 6583), +1 deaths (now 11) since 3 hours ago — Wyoming, US: +15 cases (now 716) since a day ago — Pennsylvania, US: +322 cases (now 64221), +13 deaths (now 4425) since 5 hours ago — US: +474 cases (now 1.5 million), +33 deaths (now 88300) since 32 minutes ago23:36
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: STI-1499, A Potent Anti-SARS-CoV-2 Antibody, Demonstrates Ability To Completely Inhibit In Vitro Virus Infection In Preclinical Studies (80 votes) | https://redd.it/gkdkij23:44
aradeshis that a thing? where you have antibodies injected into you?23:49
bin_bashnixonix: this made me annoyed... what about you https://xkcd.com/2307/23:50

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