| Butterfly^ | it would've helped a huge lot to decrease the panic buying that happened in the last months, which also spiked more spread of corona, people could actually stay home for 6 weeks quite easily, and we could've pretty much wiped corona by now with limited effort | 00:00 |
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| ketas | don't we already have stuff growing on rockwool, etc | 00:01 |
| ketas | under lightinh | 00:02 |
| ketas | trust me, no taste at all | 00:02 |
| abrahammstein[m] | Hi guys, my best friend is an Engineer developing ventilators for the people in Mexico, any help counts. Thank you! | 00:02 |
| abrahammstein[m] | I just didn’t know where else to put it but any help will be very much appreciate it! | 00:02 |
| abrahammstein[m] | https://www.gofundme.com/f/respirators-a-breath-of-hope?utm_source=customer&utm_medium=copy_link-tip&utm_campaign=p_cp+share-sheet | 00:02 |
| ketas | maybe if you grow up with it | 00:02 |
| ketas | "store" fruits, vegetables, eggs, etc | 00:03 |
| ketas | then it would be totally acceptable | 00:03 |
| IndoAnon[m] | mmm | 00:04 |
| IndoAnon[m] | have you guys stocking up non perishables yet? | 00:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 22:00 UTC: Coronavirus US live: Trump plays golf as death toll nears 100,000 – as it happened: President is at his golf club in Virginia Trump urges governors to open places of worship Summer is here – but are we inviting a disastrous second wave? Hydroxychloroquine: Trump ‘cure’ increases deaths, global study finds [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/nURnPo | 00:13 |
| Butterfly^ | ketas : you grow stuff on rockwool?! | 00:19 |
| Butterfly^ | ketas : leafy greens do just fine in aquaponics (water only, no soil), tomatoes you want soil, or cocos turf kinda stuff | 00:19 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test) at 22:19 UTC: CoronaVirusInfo: Visualization of COVID-19 Confirmed Cases & Deaths In The Most Populated Countries → https://is.gd/z4yV3n | 00:20 |
| Haley[mt][m] | !cases US | 00:33 |
| CovBot | In United States there have been a total of 1,665,902 cases as of 2020-05-23 22:16:00 UTC. Of these 1,121,893 (67.3%) are still sick or may have recovered without being recorded, 445,357 (26.7%) have definitely recovered and 98,652 (5.9%) have died. | 00:33 |
| Haley[mt][m] | !cases france | 00:33 |
| CovBot | In France there have been a total of 182,469 cases as of 2020-05-23 22:16:00 UTC. Of these 89,590 (49.1%) are still sick or may have recovered without being recorded, 64,547 (35.4%) have definitely recovered and 28,332 (15.5%) have died. | 00:33 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/coronavirus: Not only has the world just experienced the most new cases in one day but we also just hit five straight days of rising Covid-19 case numbers. This hasn't happened since the initial growth of the virus came to a halt on April 3rd. (10054 votes) | https://redd.it/gp27pw | 00:38 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Colombia: +1046 cases (now 20177), +23 deaths (now 705) since a day ago — Mauritania: +27 cases (now 227) since a day ago — Colorado, US: +477 cases (now 23964), +3 deaths (now 1327) since 23 hours ago — New Mexico, US: +170 cases (now 6795), +6 deaths (now 308) since 23 hours ago | 00:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 22:31 UTC: Coronavirus live news: UK police contradict No 10 claims over lockdown warning: Durham police say they did contact PM’s top aide over alleged breach of lockdown. Spain to welcome foreign visitors from July and restart football league in early June → https://is.gd/aPCYAR | 00:41 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Panama: +310 cases (now 10577), +4 deaths (now 299) since 23 hours ago — World: +381 cases (now 5.4 million), +4 deaths (now 343642) since 19 minutes ago — Czechia: +37 cases (now 8890) since 6 hours ago — Washington, US: +28 cases (now 20392) since 19 minutes ago | 00:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 22:49 UTC: /u/slakmehl: The COVID Tracking Project su Twitter: "1,178 deaths were reported. States have now reported 91,261 deaths. New York City also reports 4,735 probable COVID-19 deaths that New York State still does not record.… https://t.co/hspENtZx0a" → https://is.gd/lVFMJo | 00:55 |
| ketas | Butterfly^: well it's non-moldy substrate... | 01:03 |
| Butterfly^ | still seems weird | 01:03 |
| Butterfly^ | for seedlings, sure | 01:04 |
| Butterfly^ | but once the seedlings are going, move to soil | 01:04 |
| Butterfly^ | or cocos turf | 01:04 |
| Butterfly^ | or a mix of those | 01:04 |
| Butterfly^ | most leafy greens just need water | 01:05 |
| ketas | what about aquaponies | 01:05 |
| Butterfly^ | no soil needed | 01:05 |
| Butterfly^ | aquaponics are great for leafy greens, but terrible for carrots/potatoes | 01:05 |
| Butterfly^ | not even sure if you can grow potatoes without soil | 01:05 |
| Butterfly^ | and carrots with just water from aquaponics will give you tiny carrots | 01:06 |
| ketas | does potato or carrot grow in water? | 01:06 |
| Butterfly^ | you can grow carrots in aquaponics, but it'll be a disappointment in yield, tiny carrots | 01:06 |
| ketas | eg | 01:07 |
| Butterfly^ | https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f3/70/43/f370431aed82e96e389fbe5d1e1650af.jpg | 01:07 |
| Butterfly^ | these aren't even that bad, i've seen way smaller aquaponics (water only) carrots | 01:07 |
| ketas | but nice and clean? | 01:07 |
| ketas | washed :P | 01:07 |
| Butterfly^ | https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-k7y3pheqrjI/T8B2X8YEUSI/AAAAAAAACFU/KK9KUXGNmZ0/s1600/120+Things+in+20+years+-+Aquaponics+-+carrot.JPG | 01:08 |
| Butterfly^ | aquaponics carrot ^ | 01:08 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Angola: +1 cases (now 61), +1 deaths (now 4) since a day ago — Brazil: +4988 cases (now 347398), +79 deaths (now 22013) since an hour ago — Alabama, US: +179 cases (now 14117), +3 deaths (now 549) since an hour ago — World: +5494 cases (now 5.4 million), +85 deaths (now 343727) since 19 minutes ago | 01:08 |
| Butterfly^ | general rule that applies mostly is, most leafy greens = ideal for aquaponics without soil | 01:09 |
| Butterfly^ | carrots, potatoes, tomatoes, plant in soil | 01:09 |
| ketas | hahaha that carrot | 01:10 |
| ketas | 80% roots | 01:10 |
| Butterfly^ | https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Karen_Buzby/publication/316466433/figure/tbl2/AS:613987955793926@1523397544495/Average-yield-and-productivity-of-lettuce-cultivars-grown-in-spring-water-flow-through.png | 01:10 |
| Butterfly^ | ketas https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0fsehjZfzc Hydroponics vs Aquaponics | 01:12 |
| ketas | aquaponics used fish crap? | 01:14 |
| ketas | seems nice, plants eat what fish poop out, fish breathe what plants poop out | 01:16 |
| ketas | life is full of (good) shit | 01:17 |
| Butterfly^ | yeah | 01:17 |
| Butterfly^ | closed loop | 01:17 |
| Butterfly^ | you just feed the fish | 01:17 |
| Butterfly^ | fish poop is fertilizer for the plants (no fertilizer needed), the plants filter the water for the fish | 01:18 |
| Butterfly^ | if the system is perfectly balanced, you won't need to add nutrients at all, if it's not perfectly balanced, you only need to add a tiny amount of nutrients | 01:18 |
| Butterfly^ | best to add some worms in your growbeds, they eat the poop of the fish, and poop it out again, making better fertilizer | 01:19 |
| ketas | seems shit | 01:21 |
| Butterfly^ | a UV water filter in the system can also help to bring more balance in the system | 01:22 |
| ketas | to me | 01:22 |
| ketas | :P | 01:22 |
| Butterfly^ | once you have it set up right, it takes practically no maintenance at all | 01:22 |
| Butterfly^ | but... do your research, set it up right, finetune it till it's right (right fish/veggie balance is key), the right size of fish tank for your system (fish will grow depending on how big the tank is, too much fish = bad for plants, too little fish = bad for plants) | 01:23 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for S. Sudan: +92 cases (now 655), +2 deaths (now 8) since a day ago — Gabon: +206 cases (now 1934) since a day ago — Georgia (US), US: +110 cases (now 42242), +11 deaths (now 1822) since 6 hours ago — Missouri, US: +81 cases (now 11933), +1 deaths (now 682) since a day ago | 01:23 |
| ketas | still need light | 01:23 |
| Butterfly^ | and since you also want to eat the fish, you want fast growing fish, Tilapia is great for this, it's a fish that grows fast and doesn't care much about water quality (temps, PH, dirt, ...) | 01:24 |
| Butterfly^ | i produce more electricity than i use up and feed to the grid for free | 01:24 |
| Butterfly^ | so i better use it to grow my own food | 01:24 |
| ketas | why for free | 01:25 |
| ketas | that would mean pv to me | 01:25 |
| ketas | a 6-figure install | 01:25 |
| ketas | 5 | 01:26 |
| Butterfly^ | i have a bit more solar panels than i needed | 01:27 |
| Butterfly^ | i live alone, but i have 4 bedrooms, i got the amount of solar panels that would be able to provide electricity for 3-4 people | 01:27 |
| Butterfly^ | once i have a partner and maybe a kid or two, it'll probably be more balanced in terms of production/usage | 01:28 |
| ketas | i used to have a gf | 01:30 |
| Butterfly^ | i've had a few | 01:30 |
| Butterfly^ | but now single for 2 years | 01:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 23:15 UTC: Coronavirus live news: UK police contradict No 10 claims over lockdown warning: Durham police say they did contact PM’s top aide over alleged breach of lockdown. Spain to welcome foreign visitors from July and restart football league in early June → https://is.gd/aPCYAR | 01:30 |
| ketas | couldn't stand how much you talk? | 01:31 |
| Butterfly^ | lol | 01:32 |
| Butterfly^ | nah, way different reasons | 01:32 |
| Butterfly^ | anyways, bedtime for me | 01:33 |
| Butterfly^ | Sun May 24 01:33:37 CEST 2020 | 01:33 |
| Butterfly^ | have a great evening ketas | 01:33 |
| ketas | which bedroom you take today? | 01:33 |
| Butterfly^ | livingroom | 01:33 |
| ketas | evening? | 01:33 |
| ketas | maybe | 01:34 |
| Butterfly^ | i'm renovating my place, so my bed is in livingroom at the moment | 01:34 |
| ketas | 02:34 | 01:34 |
| Butterfly^ | oh, good night then :) | 01:34 |
| ketas | meow | 01:34 |
| Butterfly^ | take care, ciao ciao o/ | 01:35 |
| ketas | fuck i can't stand people in my house :/ | 01:35 |
| metreo1 | %cases world | 01:39 |
| Brainstorm | metreo1: In World, there have been 5.4 million confirmed cases (0.1% of the population) and 343740 deaths (6.4% of cases) as of 6 minutes ago. 54.0 million tests were performed (10.0% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 2.1% (assuming deaths/cases with ⅔ undetected), and less than 13.3% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=World for time series data. | 01:39 |
| metreo1 | %cases canada | 01:40 |
| Brainstorm | metreo1: In Canada, there have been 83621 confirmed cases (0.2% of the population) and 6355 deaths (7.6% of cases) as of an hour ago. 1.2 million tests were performed (7.2% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 2.5% (assuming deaths/cases with ⅔ undetected), and less than 12.8% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Canada for time series data. | 01:40 |
| ketas | %cases estonia | 01:47 |
| Brainstorm | ketas: In Estonia, there have been 1821 confirmed cases (0.1% of the population) and 64 deaths (3.5% of cases) as of 15 hours ago. 67130 tests were performed (2.7% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 1.2% (assuming deaths/cases with ⅔ undetected), and less than 4.0% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Estonia for time series data. | 01:47 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 00:00 UTC: Coronavirus live news: 6m Australians download tracing app as experts fear second wave in US summer: New witnesses cast doubt on Cummings’s lockdown claims; Trump golfs in Virginia; WHO says pandemic ‘taking different pathway’ in Africa. Follow the latest updates → https://is.gd/Uey6c5 | 02:13 |
| ytlyv9 | welcome | 02:32 |
| dividediff[m] | snowden on covid | 02:51 |
| dividediff[m] | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zzs3KPC3-c | 02:51 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Mexico: +3329 cases (now 65856), +190 deaths (now 7179) since 23 hours ago — Guinea: +109 cases (now 3176), +1 deaths (now 20) since a day ago — World: +3880 cases (now 5.4 million), +204 deaths (now 343943) since an hour ago — US: +419 cases (now 1.7 million), +10 deaths (now 98683) since an hour ago | 02:54 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews at 00:54 UTC: worldnews: A somber New York Times front page lists 1,000 coronavirus deaths → https://is.gd/asQX4N | 03:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 01:12 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: National parks may be next vacation spots, NY deaths fall to lowest level since March → https://is.gd/nVwHxZ | 03:16 |
| metreo1 | %cases usa | 03:18 |
| Brainstorm | metreo1: In US, there have been 1.7 million confirmed cases (0.5% of the population) and 98683 deaths (5.9% of cases) as of 30 minutes ago. 10.6 million tests were performed (15.7% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 2.0% (assuming deaths/cases with ⅔ undetected), and less than 18.1% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 03:18 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Guatemala: +311 cases (now 3054), +4 deaths (now 55) since a day ago — Haiti: +53 cases (now 865), +1 deaths (now 26) since 23 hours ago — World: +364 cases (now 5.4 million), +5 deaths (now 343948) since 36 minutes ago | 03:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 01:24 UTC: Coronavirus live news: 6m Australians download tracing app as experts fear second wave in US summer: New witnesses cast doubt on Cummings’s lockdown claims; Trump golfs in Virginia; WHO says pandemic ‘taking different pathway’ in Africa. Follow the latest updates → https://is.gd/Uey6c5 | 03:37 |
| LjL | The coronavirus pandemic “appears to be taking a different pathway in Africa,” the World Health Organization said, after it took 14 weeks for the continent to reach 100,000 cases and 3,100 deaths. “Case numbers have not grown at the same exponential rate as in other regions and so far Africa has not experienced the high mortality seen in some parts of the world,” the agency said. | 03:45 |
| LjL | is the WHO ignoring obvious lack of data | 03:46 |
| LjL | or is there an actual temperature effect | 03:46 |
| LjL | or what | 03:46 |
| ryouma | we'd see the temperature effect in se asia wouldn't we? | 03:50 |
| steeltormentor[m | withorwithout | 03:52 |
| steeltormentor[m | > they were putting people in ventilators and effectively killing them with a higher rate | 03:52 |
| steeltormentor[m | I'm particularly interested in this topic and cannot find plenty of reading material. Do you have source references about the matter? | 03:52 |
| ryouma | do doctors all look up the latest protocols at the end of every shift? | 03:53 |
| ryouma | or is knowledge unevenly distributed? | 03:54 |
| ubLIX | LjL: connectivity? international flights beginning or ending in Africa less numerous than in highly developed westernised countries? | 03:54 |
| Brainstorm | ubLIX: At 2020-05-22 00:18:27 UTC, LjL told you: https://www.wired.com/story/covid-19s-scary-blood-clots-arent-that-surprising/ | 03:54 |
| LjL | ryouma, well we might be seeing *some* temperature effect in asia... it's hard to tell, some hot countries have had their spike but also dealt with it much better than europe or the US. now my first idea is that they simply did as i said, i.e. deal with it better... but i don't feel i can rule out temperature entirely | 03:55 |
| steeltormentor[m | And the elephant question: does putting patients in ventilators make the condition worse or is it because the condition of patients are so dire that it's normal to have such high death rate? | 03:55 |
| LjL | ubLIX, but once it's there it's there. all countries in africa are reporting cases | 03:55 |
| LjL | steeltormentor[m, sorry, you may not see that from Matrix but withorwithout actually left before you said the last thing :\ | 03:56 |
| LjL | he'll probably come back, he's around much of the time | 03:56 |
| LjL | steeltormentor[m, anyway, i do not have references, but i am italian and i also have heard from local news things that... probably sounded like that. i mean, they wouldn't literally tell us "we've been killing people by putting them in ventilators", that would come across as a little direct | 03:57 |
| ryouma | steeltormentor[m: i wonder if it requires great skill and attention by experts to use them and whether that is alwyas there | 03:58 |
| steeltormentor[m | Oh thanks for notifying, I didn't noticed he left earlier. | 03:59 |
| ryouma | assessing comorbidities, getting flow rates correct | 03:59 |
| steeltormentor[m | LjL (@freenode_LjL:matrix.org): yep it's kinda hard to answer that question..I remember reading something about ventilator use is pushing the virus deeper into the lungs, but cannot remember where I read it in the first place. | 04:03 |
| steeltormentor[m | ryouma: that is also a big factor to consider. | 04:04 |
| ryouma | you could compare high utilization icu vs. low utilization to see if the latter are better, after controlling for pre-pandemic success | 04:05 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Sudan: +250 cases (now 3628), +9 deaths (now 146) since a day ago — World: +276 cases (now 5.4 million), +9 deaths (now 343957) since 51 minutes ago — Vietnam: +1 cases (now 325) since 5 days ago | 04:09 |
| LjL | steeltormentor[m, "total excess deaths" data being higher than official COVID numbers is true pretty much everywhere though. but on the other hand... if it's *noticeable*, then it probably means that's not just a few deaths | 04:19 |
| LjL | steeltormentor[m, let's assume for a moment that ventilators killed people in italy, and now, among doctors, they all know this, but they won't just say it bluntly to us for obvious reasons: hospitals would take a fair bit longer to be overwhelmed in their normal beds than in their ICU beds, at least if the proportion of the two is similar to Italy's | 04:20 |
| LjL | %title https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/2020/05/23/hydroxychloroquine-short-supply-lupus-patients-who-need/5245542002/ | 04:59 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: From eu.usatoday.com: Hydroxychloroquine in short supply for lupus patients who need it | 04:59 |
| Wayne[m] | "It's Lupus" | 05:01 |
| Wayne[m] | 4200 blaze it | 05:02 |
| steeltormentor[m | *that's supposed to be +/- 2,400 | 05:03 |
| LjL | steeltormentor[m, so that's sort of comparable to what's happening in... well, Italy | 05:03 |
| LjL | rough doubling | 05:03 |
| LjL | i guess whether ICUs get overwhelmed may also depend on how concentrated in one place it is, though, countries are just constructs | 05:04 |
| LjL | Wayne[m], can we please skip the memes and similar easy targets | 05:05 |
| Wayne[m] | Oh fuck off doomer | 05:05 |
| Wayne[m] | it's a single meme | 05:05 |
| Wayne[m] | you type type type | 05:05 |
| LjL | ooookay | 05:05 |
| Wayne[m] | >allow me to dominate the chat with my autistic speculation | 05:06 |
| Wayne[m] | at least ask the HONEST question | 05:06 |
| Wayne[m] | now about this one | 05:07 |
| Wayne[m] | please cry. | 05:07 |
| LjL | don't click | 05:07 |
| LjL | ubLIX, sure takes some time to load up riot too | 05:07 |
| ubLIX | hmm? | 05:08 |
| LjL-Matrix | well it'd have been nice if i could ban before the nsfw crap | 05:08 |
| LjL-Matrix | which i guess i could have, from irc, but instead i thought, hey it's a Matrix user, to do it cleanly i best watch the Riot wheel spin for a minute | 05:09 |
| ubLIX | hmm. quiet here, delete there later, i guess | 05:10 |
| LjL-Matrix | quiets simply don't get carried across | 05:10 |
| LjL-Matrix | or they do | 05:10 |
| LjL-Matrix | i don't quite know yet | 05:10 |
| LjL-Matrix | or remember | 05:10 |
| ubLIX | right, but at least there you can delete the post | 05:10 |
| LjL-Matrix | anyhow, next time i'll just shoot all my arrows | 05:10 |
| LjL-Matrix | right | 05:11 |
| LjL | So far, there haven't been any confirmed cases in Tuxa, but he doesn't know how long they will be able to stave off the virus. More than 60 indigenous communities have confirmed Covid-19 cases, many of them in the Amazon region, where people can only get to hospitals by boat or airplane. | 05:15 |
| LjL | According to a study by the non-profit InfoAmazonia, the average distance between indigenous villages and the nearest intensive care unit (ICU) in Brazil is 315 kilometers. | 05:15 |
| ubLIX | yikes | 05:17 |
| iz | %cases brazil | 05:17 |
| Brainstorm | iz: In Brazil, there have been 349113 confirmed cases (0.2% of the population) and 22165 deaths (6.3% of cases) as of 36 minutes ago. 735224 tests were performed (47.5% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 2.1% (assuming deaths/cases with ⅔ undetected), and less than 13.5% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Brazil for time series data. | 05:17 |
| LjL | ubLIX, and the article says they're dying at twice the rates as the rest of Brazil | 05:17 |
| LjL | i can't imagine why... they aren't dying more | 05:17 |
| LjL | but they likely are | 05:18 |
| LjL | if you wanted to get rid of them in the Amazon, looks like refusing to lockdown is one way | 05:18 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Temperature significantly changes COVID-19 transmission in (sub)tropical cities of Brazil (84 votes) | https://redd.it/gpdbav | 05:22 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Acre, Brazil: +524 cases (now 3867), +7 deaths (now 87) since a day ago — Maranhao, Brazil: +1555 cases (now 18767), +29 deaths (now 722) since a day ago — Amapa, Brazil: +436 cases (now 6091), +5 deaths (now 162) since a day ago — Rio Grande do Norte, Brazil: +766 cases (now 10935), +7 deaths (now 360) since a day ago | 05:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus at 03:10 UTC: Coronavirus: 'Incalculable loss': New York Times covers front page with 1,000 Covid-19 death notices → https://is.gd/Z1pB4i | 05:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 03:20 UTC: Coronavirus live news: 6m Australians download tracing app as experts fear second wave in US summer: New witnesses cast doubt on Cummings’s lockdown claims; Trump golfs in Virginia; WHO says pandemic ‘taking different pathway’ in Africa. Follow the latest updates → https://is.gd/Uey6c5 | 05:37 |
| LjL | is this accurate? https://www.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/gpdbav/temperature_significantly_changes_covid19/frlhda6/ | 05:44 |
| LjL | in case anyone is an epidemiologist or summin' | 05:45 |
| yuriwho | yes, the Ro changes with heat | 05:56 |
| yuriwho | thus the herd immunity figures chage | 05:56 |
| yuriwho | they also change with humidity | 05:57 |
| yuriwho | @ LjL | 05:57 |
| LjL | yuriwho, thanks, i was more about whether that particular formula is used, because it's the first time i meet it which is a bit surprising since it seems important | 06:01 |
| LjL | anyway i guess we're slowly understanding how it changes with heat because there's been a lot of confounding factors | 06:02 |
| LjL | what i fear is that if summer really does almost "make it go away", instead of buying us more time, people will start being like "it's gone, yeah i know doomers will say it may come back in autumn but it wasn't that bad was it?" | 06:02 |
| LjL | and then it hits us in the really cold months | 06:02 |
| LjL | which it hasn't | 06:02 |
| LjL | not here, and as for China i don't want to buy into "their numbers are all made up" stuff but there is a shred of doubt | 06:03 |
| yuriwho | the summer effects on SARS-CoV-2 are less than those on Flu viruses | 06:03 |
| yuriwho | it still spreads significantly in the summer as the US is finding out right now | 06:04 |
| yuriwho | there will be another explosion in cases this fall/winter | 06:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test) at 04:02 UTC: nCoV: COVID-19 still rising in much of US; Brazil now 2nd hardest-hit nation | 23MAY20 → https://is.gd/N8HpJ6 | 06:05 |
| LjL | how apropos Brainstorm | 06:05 |
| yuriwho | lol | 06:05 |
| LjL | well i shall sleep | 06:05 |
| yuriwho | gn LjL | 06:05 |
| LjL | night | 06:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 04:03 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: National parks may be next vacation spots, NY deaths fall to lowest level since March → https://is.gd/nVwHxZ | 06:12 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 04:10 UTC: Coronavirus live news: 6m Australians download tracing app as experts fear second wave in US summer: New witnesses cast doubt on Cummings’s lockdown claims; Trump golfs in Virginia; WHO says pandemic ‘taking different pathway’ in Africa. Follow the latest updates → https://is.gd/Uey6c5 | 06:26 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/coronavirus: Sunday's front page of The New York Times is dedicated to those who died of COVID-19. "The 1,000 people here reflect just 1 percent of the [U.S.] toll." (10227 votes) | https://redd.it/gpdmqu | 06:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 04:49 UTC: Coronavirus live news: Wuhan lab had bat viruses but not Covid-19 strain as Australia border row simmers: Lab says none of three bat viruses match Covid-19; new witnesses cast doubt on Cummings’s lockdown claims; WHO says pandemic ‘taking different pathway’ in Africa. Follow the latest updates → https://is.gd/Uey6c5 | 06:54 |
| withorwithout | https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-2567 nice one on cloth masks | 06:58 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 05:16 UTC: Welfare: Scott Morrison dismisses calls for Josh Frydenberg to front Covid-19 inquiry over jobkeeper → https://is.gd/dFQZaO | 07:29 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 05:35 UTC: Coronavirus live news: Wuhan lab had bat viruses but not Covid-19 strain as Australia border row simmers: Lab says none of three bat viruses match Covid-19; new witnesses cast doubt on Cummings’s lockdown claims; WHO says pandemic ‘taking different pathway’ in Africa. Follow the latest updates → https://is.gd/Uey6c5 | 07:43 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Aerosol Particles Laden with Viruses That Cause COVID-19 Travel Over 30m Distance (84 votes) | https://redd.it/gpgdsh | 08:29 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews at 06:59 UTC: worldnews: Coronavirus is 'uniquely adapted to infect humans': Top vaccine scientist says it could only have come from an animal through a 'freak of nature' - and the possibility it leaked. → https://is.gd/ujURMd | 09:15 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 07:04 UTC: Coronavirus live news: Wuhan lab had bat viruses but not Covid-19 strain as Australia border row simmers: Lab says none of three bat viruses match Covid-19; new witnesses cast doubt on Cummings’s lockdown claims; WHO says pandemic ‘taking different pathway’ in Africa. Follow the latest updates → https://is.gd/Uey6c5 | 09:22 |
| genera | oh its the Daily Mail | 09:29 |
| Butterfly^ | Daily Fail | 09:36 |
| Butterfly^ | or Faily Mail | 09:36 |
| genera | plus its /r/worldnews, not one of the many /r/Coronas | 09:40 |
| genera | Brainstorm should learn to read :-) | 09:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 07:39 UTC: UK coronavirus live: Tory MP Steve Baker calls for Dominic Cummings to go: Grant Shapps to defend No 10 advisor on Sunday morning politics shows amid revelations of further breaches of lockdown rules → https://is.gd/fBJCJw | 09:50 |
| Haley[mt][m] | !cases US | 09:54 |
| CovBot | In United States there have been a total of 1,666,828 cases as of 2020-05-24 07:34:00 UTC. Of these 1,121,231 (67.3%) are still sick or may have recovered without being recorded, 446,914 (26.8%) have definitely recovered and 98,683 (5.9%) have died. | 09:54 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 08:30 UTC: Dominic Cummings must resign, says Tory MP Steve Baker: Ex-minister says PM’s chief adviser must step down over claims he breached lockdown rules → https://is.gd/49397h | 10:32 |
| Haley[mt][m] | !cases sweden | 10:44 |
| CovBot | In Sweden there have been a total of 33,188 cases as of 2020-05-24 08:15:00 UTC. Of these 24,225 (73.0%) are still sick or may have recovered without being recorded, 4,971 (15.0%) have definitely recovered and 3,992 (12.0%) have died. | 10:44 |
| Haley[mt][m] | !cases france | 10:44 |
| CovBot | In France there have been a total of 182,469 cases as of 2020-05-24 08:15:00 UTC. Of these 89,590 (49.1%) are still sick or may have recovered without being recorded, 64,547 (35.4%) have definitely recovered and 28,332 (15.5%) have died. | 10:45 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +15458 cases (now 5.4 million), +253 deaths (now 344382) since 5 hours ago — Russia: +8599 cases (now 344481), +153 deaths (now 3541) since a day ago — Armenia: +359 cases (now 6661), +4 deaths (now 81) since a day ago — Pakistan: +2164 cases (now 54601), +32 deaths (now 1133) since a day ago | 10:50 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 08:44 UTC: UK coronavirus live: Tory MP Steve Baker calls for Dominic Cummings to go: Grant Shapps to defend No 10 advisor on Sunday morning politics shows amid revelations of further breaches of lockdown rules → https://is.gd/fBJCJw | 10:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 08:59 UTC: UK coronavirus live: Tory MPs call for Dominic Cummings to go: Grant Shapps defends No 10 advisor on Sunday morning politics shows amid revelations of further breaches of lockdown rules → https://is.gd/fBJCJw | 11:07 |
| Arsanerit | 2020-05-23 23:18:44##covid-19: < Butterfly^> Arsanerit : did you know that Netherlands is the second biggest exporter of tomatoes in the world? US only the 9th ? While Netherlands doesn't really have the climate to grow tomatoes (yeah, like one growth / year), but what they do have, is a lot of knowledge in indoor growing, due to the fact that they have legal weed ships since 1958 | 11:32 |
| Arsanerit | Butterfly^: Yes, I know we're among the the biggest tomato exporters in the world, in fact we're the second biggest meat exporter in the world, but I would call your linking it to weed export bs. | 11:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus at 09:15 UTC: Coronavirus: Apple's iOS update is here — and it includes coronavirus contact tracing → https://is.gd/Ko7YCx | 11:35 |
| Butterfly^ | Arsanerit : 62 years of growing weed, a lot of it indoors, surely has some impact on getting knowledge on how to grow indoors | 11:37 |
| Butterfly^ | not saying it's all related to that, but probably had some impact | 11:38 |
| Arsanerit | I doubt it. | 11:42 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 09:30 UTC: UK coronavirus live: Tory MPs call for Dominic Cummings to go: Grant Shapps defends No 10 advisor on Sunday morning politics shows amid revelations of further breaches of lockdown rules → https://is.gd/fBJCJw | 11:42 |
| Butterfly^ | that's 2-3 generations of knowledge on indoor growing | 11:46 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Oman: +513 cases (now 7770) since 15 hours ago — Belarus: +954 cases (now 36198), +5 deaths (now 199) since 23 hours ago — United Arab Emirates: +781 cases (now 29485), +1 deaths (now 245) since 15 hours ago — Belgium: +282 cases (now 57092), +43 deaths (now 9280) since 23 hours ago | 11:51 |
| adventurer | https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6158843835001 | 12:37 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Malawi: +1 deaths (now 4) since a day ago — Kuwait: +838 cases (now 21302), +8 deaths (now 156) since 22 hours ago — Iran: +2180 cases (now 135701), +58 deaths (now 7417) since a day ago — World: +3407 cases (now 5.4 million), +80 deaths (now 344564) since an hour ago | 12:51 |
| lmnt | Guys, are there news on cross-strain immunity? | 12:52 |
| Akash[m] | %cases Lucknow | 12:52 |
| Brainstorm | Akash[m]: Sorry, Lucknow not found. Either there aren't cases, or it's under a different name. | 12:52 |
| Akash[m] | %cases india | 12:53 |
| Brainstorm | Akash[m]: In India, there have been 132674 confirmed cases (0.0% of the population) and 3899 deaths (2.9% of cases) as of an hour ago. 1.9 million tests were performed (6.8% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 1.0% (assuming deaths/cases with ⅔ undetected), and less than 6.7% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=India for time series data. | 12:53 |
| _abc_ | https://www.lesechos.fr/idees-debats/sciences-prospective/un-sars-cov-2-synthetique-cree-dans-un-laboratoire-suisse-1205044 -- has this been posted here before? Swiss lab re-created sars-cov2 from scratch using the published genetic data. | 13:01 |
| _abc_ | That is pretty crazy, I did not know it is possible from scratch. | 13:02 |
| lmnt | "Virus From Scratch" | 13:03 |
| lmnt | :D | 13:03 |
| _abc_ | Well it took one month. | 13:04 |
| _abc_ | I asume they did not "test" it by infecting something with it. | 13:04 |
| _abc_ | In any case it validates the published data once again? Was this necessary? Perhaps it helps somehow. | 13:05 |
| _abc_ | Can't a modified virus to act as a vaccine be assmbled the same way? | 13:05 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Ethiopia: +88 cases (now 582) since a day ago — Sri Lanka: +12 cases (now 1106) since an hour ago — World: +216 cases (now 5.4 million) since 17 minutes ago | 13:06 |
| lmnt | _abc_, just like with LFS | 13:06 |
| lmnt | %cases Turkmenistan | 13:06 |
| Brainstorm | lmnt: Sorry, Turkmenistan not found. Either there aren't cases, or it's under a different name. | 13:06 |
| _abc_ | LFS? lmnt ? | 13:06 |
| lmnt | _abc_, http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ | 13:06 |
| _abc_ | oh | 13:07 |
| _abc_ | "white room" re-implementation of various things has been necessary in the past, for copyright/patent reasons among other things. | 13:07 |
| _abc_ | But a virus from scratch is new to me. | 13:08 |
| lmnt | new scarecrow I suppose, to complement the nuclear winter ^_^ | 13:08 |
| _abc_ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_room_design this | 13:09 |
| lmnt | on a more practical note, has there been any news as to cross-train immunity? | 13:09 |
| _abc_ | cross strain perhaps? | 13:09 |
| lmnt | yes, was a typo | 13:09 |
| lmnt | strains in the US and China should have diverged a lot by now | 13:09 |
| _abc_ | Again I am a noob, but it seems that antibodies would react to the S protein and that has to be specific to the ACE2 and thus unique? Iow cross strain immunity should work [tm] | 13:10 |
| lmnt | Iow? | 13:11 |
| lmnt | i am, too, but there could be invariable things about this virus | 13:11 |
| _abc_ | In other words. Also apparently even SARS COV1 antibodies may work against COV2 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-15562-9 | 13:12 |
| lmnt | oh | 13:12 |
| lmnt | _abc_, sounds like deliverance. | 13:12 |
| _abc_ | "Polyclonal anti-SARS S1 antibodies T62 inhibit entry of SARS-CoV S but not SARS-CoV-2 S pseudovirions." not so fast | 13:12 |
| _abc_ | One wonders if monoclonal... | 13:12 |
| _abc_ | "limited cross-neutralization" is something, as opposed to nothing. | 13:13 |
| lmnt | they should abandon calling the Chinese virus new names really. | 13:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 11:09 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: National parks may be next vacation spots, NY deaths fall to lowest level since March → https://is.gd/nVwHxZ | 13:14 |
| lmnt | just a coupla weeks ago it was 2019-nCoV | 13:14 |
| _abc_ | It's a plot to avert angering the supplier of PPE (China) | 13:14 |
| lmnt | nwo it's SARS-CoV-2 | 13:14 |
| _abc_ | I just renamed it there, that is not a real name. | 13:14 |
| ns1988[m] | Can we get haircuts yet | 13:15 |
| lmnt | ns1988[m], yes. I did just two weeks ago with a hair clipper. | 13:16 |
| _abc_ | "bowl" cuts are all the rage. | 13:16 |
| lmnt | ns1988[m], https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gkxGs4ETeg4/hqdefault.jpg check this look out | 13:16 |
| _abc_ | "escaped prisoner look" ? | 13:17 |
| lmnt | it's called gabber, a trendy techno fashion | 13:17 |
| lmnt | _abc_, is that right they found sars patients and tested whether those could be infected with CCP virus? | 13:17 |
| lmnt | but isn't immunity against SARS holding for only 3 years... | 13:18 |
| _abc_ | lmnt: I do not know what you are talking about. | 13:18 |
| lmnt | the article you linked | 13:19 |
| _abc_ | coronavirus immunity is purported to last only 2-3 years. Many other viruses share this curse. | 13:19 |
| lmnt | yep | 13:19 |
| _abc_ | lmnt: I don't think they infected anyone, they used tests in the lab presumably on prelevated serum/plasma | 13:19 |
| lmnt | _abc_, knowing the Chinese, they might as well actually infect somebody just to find out | 13:20 |
| lmnt | not sure they would share the results though. | 13:20 |
| lmnt | I wouldn't put it past the Japs, too | 13:21 |
| zeroxoliver | in austria we have 800 infected | 13:23 |
| lmnt | zeroxoliver, *revealed | 13:23 |
| zeroxoliver | yes there maybe are some undetected infected people, but that are not many i tell you | 13:25 |
| zeroxoliver | please can someone explain me why usa have so many ? | 13:26 |
| _abc_ | lmnt: you are evil. They will not deliberately infect a Han. Now, a Muslim descent Chinese from Western China... no. Probably also not. But then someone could take some apparently healhy (and tasty) lab animals home. That latter thing scares me. | 13:27 |
| _abc_ | +t | 13:27 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 11:20 UTC: UK coronavirus live: Tory MPs call for Dominic Cummings to go: Seven Conservative MPs call for advisor to resign amid revelations of further breaches of lockdown rules → https://is.gd/fBJCJw | 13:28 |
| lmnt | _abc_, I am evil? Why? | 13:28 |
| _abc_ | Let's not guess. The virus could not jump species in "one" step from what I understand. It had to breed several succesfull generations of mutations and keep infecting another host presumably in the process to move from the known animal based ones to the present form. That is the missing step(s). | 13:28 |
| lmnt | _abc_, as for your assesment, they would infect an Uyghur and slice him up in a heartbeat | 13:29 |
| _abc_ | one l there | 13:29 |
| _abc_ | lmnt: one fewer free worker in a salt/sand pit. Bad plan. | 13:29 |
| lmnt | _abc_, we are talking an issue of planetary importance here. | 13:30 |
| _abc_ | I am trying to find out if SARS-COV also attacked T1 immune cells and blocked them like COV2 does | 13:30 |
| _abc_ | lmnt: are we? | 13:30 |
| _abc_ | https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2683413/ T cells article on sars from 2008 | 13:32 |
| _abc_ | bbl | 13:33 |
| yuriwho | hey lads and ladies, I have a new theory on how to safely self vaccinate with actual virus | 13:35 |
| yuriwho | anyone paying attention? | 13:35 |
| lmnt | yuriwho, I hope it doesn't involve eating feces. | 13:36 |
| yuriwho | ok, it appears that the 'dose' you receive is critical in determining the course of your disease as high dose+ exponential viral replication = severe | 13:36 |
| yuriwho | also, oral vaccination is thought to possibly be the best as there is an immune tolerance aspect to antigens that you eat | 13:36 |
| yuriwho | so....go out in public with just a surgical mask and eye protection to prevent high dose accidents........ go home...... pick your nose...... EAT IT! | 13:36 |
| lmnt | "yuriwho, I hope it doesn't involve eating feces." | 13:37 |
| lmnt | I knew! | 13:37 |
| yuriwho | I wish there was a study of habitual nosepickers and disease course | 13:37 |
| yuriwho | well, habitual nose booger eaters | 13:37 |
| lmnt | used to be one, but not anymore | 13:37 |
| lmnt | yuriwho, f* this shit, we ain't know nothing about the main transmission routes | 13:37 |
| yuriwho | I have recommenced a childhood habit of mine | 13:37 |
| lmnt | I mean, which route is the dominant one | 13:38 |
| lmnt | it would require extensive lab tests probably | 13:38 |
| yuriwho | ~50% droplet, 40% aerosol, 10% fomite accouring to "Das Coronavirus" expert\ | 13:39 |
| lmnt | like taking 1000 healthy people and looking how they could contract the disease, pretty squad 731-ish | 13:39 |
| lmnt | yuriwho, woher kommt das? RKI? | 13:39 |
| yuriwho | no | 13:39 |
| lmnt | at any rate I hate that aerosol one, very hard to defend against | 13:39 |
| yuriwho | I do not speak german myself | 13:40 |
| lmnt | robert koch institute | 13:40 |
| yuriwho | I'll arrange a double-blind clinical trial | 13:40 |
| lmnt | glad Germans contributed anything of value to the society, lol | 13:40 |
| yuriwho | but who are the booger eaters? Doctors will need to be blindfolded | 13:40 |
| lmnt | https://www.npr.org/2020/03/31/823865329/das-coronavirus-podcast-captivates-germany-with-scientific-info-on-the-pandemic this one? | 13:40 |
| yuriwho | yes | 13:41 |
| yuriwho | <ogo> r yuriwho, maybe unrelated but is loss of smell still considered a symptom? | 13:41 |
| yuriwho | 07:12 <+yuriwho> yes | 13:41 |
| yuriwho | 07:13 it is definately a symptom in ~30% of cases | 13:41 |
| yuriwho | 07:13 O<ogo> r is it known why? | 13:41 |
| yuriwho | 07:13 <+yuriwho> thats from upper RT dosing IMO | 13:41 |
| yuriwho | 07:13 nose breathers | 13:41 |
| yuriwho | 07:14 the mouth breather get the lung disease first | 13:41 |
| yuriwho | 07:14 O<ogo> r ppl who catch it from the eye, do they experience any effect on their vision? | 13:41 |
| yuriwho | 07:14 <+yuriwho> the orally dosed get the shits | 13:41 |
| yuriwho | 07:14 pink eye and neurological symptoms | 13:41 |
| yuriwho | 07:14 for the eye infected | 13:41 |
| yuriwho | ogo is a forensic pathologist | 13:41 |
| yuriwho | this was just posted in ##coronavirus | 13:42 |
| lmnt | omg, I hate eye infections now | 13:42 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health at 11:37 UTC: (news): Coronavirus: What are the rules on caring for children during lockdown? → https://is.gd/p2am9E | 13:42 |
| yuriwho | this is a chance for the germans to reclaim their good name | 13:42 |
| Arsanerit | yuriwho: that they lost in 1933? or in 1914? | 13:43 |
| yuriwho | both | 13:43 |
| Arsanerit | or in 1974? or in 2008? | 13:43 |
| lmnt | or in 2015 | 13:43 |
| lmnt | stop picking at Germans | 13:43 |
| yuriwho | they did good in 1988 with the wall | 13:44 |
| Arsanerit | that was 1989 | 13:44 |
| Arsanerit | Germany will never clear itself of its association with the criminal past. | 13:44 |
| yuriwho | and Merkel is the only scientist global leader...... she has a Ph.D. in Physical Chemistry.... molecular beams etc | 13:44 |
| yuriwho | you cannot blame a generation for the errors of their grandparents society | 13:45 |
| yuriwho | I only opped to get attention..... but I am not afraid to use it if required | 13:46 |
| yuriwho | that was a warning Arsanerit | 13:47 |
| lmnt | yuriwho, well Germany as a country is indeed responsible | 13:48 |
| Haley[mt][m] | Arsanerit: Check out what other countries did over their past. The issue with the germans is that media coverage was way better during that time. | 13:48 |
| yuriwho | they also did good with the middle eastern refugees | 13:48 |
| lmnt | it used to have a "drang nach osten" policy long before the WWII | 13:48 |
| Haley[mt][m] | And - the generations that did these things are almost gone. | 13:48 |
| lmnt | Haley[mt][m], now they do all those things in new form. | 13:49 |
| Haley[mt][m] | Arsanerit: If you tell me where you are from, I'll dig out some things your peolple did in the past. Not so glorious too. | 13:49 |
| lmnt | Ecofaschismus, "knowing better" what's best for "uncivilized" nations | 13:49 |
| lmnt | or exploiting foreign working force | 13:49 |
| yuriwho | look EU politics are messy..... this is a science and science policy chan...... no more politics please unless it relates to the virus | 13:50 |
| lmnt | Hitler brought 10 Mio foreign workers to Germany, isn't that what they do now? | 13:50 |
| lmnt | that is a pattern, dear gentlemen | 13:50 |
| lmnt | not saying England is any better though | 13:50 |
| lmnt | not with it starving to death 3 Million Indians in the Second World War | 13:50 |
| yuriwho | stop! | 13:50 |
| lmnt | yuriwho, sorry | 13:50 |
| Haley[mt][m] | Nope. They killed and exploited the resources of the countries befine bringing the people in. | 13:50 |
| lmnt | haven't read your last message in time :( | 13:51 |
| yuriwho | last warning | 13:51 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Madagascar: +39 cases (now 527) since a day ago — Senegal: +71 cases (now 3047), +1 deaths (now 35) since 23 hours ago — World: +501 cases (now 5.4 million), +3 deaths (now 344567) since 49 minutes ago — Czechia: +1 cases (now 8891), +1 deaths (now 315) since 13 hours ago | 13:51 |
| yuriwho | I know I started it with a casual comment | 13:51 |
| yuriwho | my apologies | 13:51 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 11:53 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: National parks may be next vacation spots, NY deaths fall to lowest level since March → https://is.gd/nVwHxZ | 13:56 |
| IPSolver[m] | Hi, here from Spain ! | 13:57 |
| yuriwho | welcome | 13:57 |
| yuriwho | so is matrix actually useful or just a fancy way to be distracted | 13:58 |
| yuriwho | ? | 13:58 |
| IPSolver[m] | matrix is the future | 13:59 |
| yuriwho | I do not doubt that..... but is it useful? Should I spend time learning it? | 13:59 |
| IPSolver[m] | maybe will be integrated by big proyects and companys in her core projects | 14:00 |
| yuriwho | it clearly has a bigger audience | 14:00 |
| yuriwho | slack does not have a matrix integration that I know of | 14:01 |
| yuriwho | sanctioned one | 14:01 |
| yuriwho | Slack is super useful | 14:01 |
| yuriwho | yaircos (yet another irc on steroids) | 14:02 |
| IPSolver[m] | in my company we are implementing Matrix like official communication | 14:02 |
| yuriwho | interesting. I am using Slack in mine | 14:02 |
| yuriwho | but it's expensive | 14:03 |
| IPSolver[m] | forbidding whatsapp, telegram or others | 14:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 11:54 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: China ridicules efforts to make it pay coronavirus compensation, NY deaths fall to lowest level since March → https://is.gd/nVwHxZ | 14:03 |
| IPSolver[m] | with this method, i have to force to my employes to share her personal phone numbers, or Telegram IDs with our clients | 14:04 |
| IPSolver[m] | they don't have to mix her personal devices and IDs with professional workstation | 14:04 |
| yuriwho | I do similar with Slack | 14:05 |
| IPSolver[m] | we control all the communications, security and privacy, and this is importart for me and my partner | 14:05 |
| yuriwho | I need HIPAA compliance | 14:05 |
| yuriwho | Slack has that | 14:05 |
| IPSolver[m] | <yuriwho "I do similar with Slack"> maybe, but i think that this is more similar to Telegram o Whatsapp | 14:06 |
| IPSolver[m] | and slacks to ... Teams ?¿ | 14:06 |
| yuriwho | what special advantage does Matrix have? | 14:06 |
| steeltormentor[m | <yuriwho "so....go out in public with just"> Now I want to puke out my dinner xD | 14:07 |
| yuriwho | Slack is IRC with drag & drop, integrations for most major apps, security and privacy, teams etc etc | 14:07 |
| lmnt | yuriwho, sounds like everything XMPP has to offer :p | 14:09 |
| yuriwho | XMPP? | 14:09 |
| lmnt | yes | 14:11 |
| yuriwho | gonna make me google it? | 14:11 |
| lmnt | what do you wanna say about it? "it's a new coooool messaging app, very trendy"? | 14:12 |
| yuriwho | XML communications standard? | 14:12 |
| lmnt | *me to say | 14:12 |
| lmnt | yes | 14:12 |
| IPSolver[m] | <lmnt "yuriwho, sounds like everything "> yes, but Matrix is more modern, e2e is very mature. Backup keys system... etc | 14:12 |
| lmnt | IPSolver[m], e2e is pretty mature in XMPP now. | 14:13 |
| lmnt | with the emergence of the OMEMO protocol based on Signal's axolotl, which is also used by WhatsApp | 14:13 |
| IPSolver[m] | what is the more advanced XMPP client & server proyect? | 14:13 |
| ubLIX | idk why it always has to be the shiny new thing. 640 carrier pigeons ought to be enough for anybody | 14:14 |
| IPSolver[m] | which is the best XMPP alternative to Matrix ? | 14:15 |
| lmnt | IPSolver[m], Conversations, Gajim/Dino | 14:15 |
| lmnt | IPSolver[m], as for the server, there is ejabberd, prosody, openfire | 14:15 |
| lmnt | they should be pretty much on par now | 14:16 |
| yuriwho | Matrix still has security issues: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_(protocol) | 14:16 |
| lmnt | and slack is iirc a commercial proprietary product | 14:16 |
| yuriwho | indeed | 14:16 |
| IPSolver[m] | <lmnt "IPSolver, as for the server, the"> i will research about these | 14:17 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 12:02 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: Wuhan lab had bat viruses but not Covid-19 strain; Russia reports highest daily death toll → https://is.gd/Uey6c5 | 14:17 |
| IPSolver[m] | think that i'm looking more that alternative to 'IRC' concept. We are thinking about widgets, features that can be used in a workstation | 14:18 |
| lmnt | IPSolver[m], xmpp also happens to have a very enthusiastic community. Check conversations@conference.siacs.eu | 14:19 |
| lmnt | IPSolver[m], their always helpful even when it comes to setting up a server, speaking of which, there is also a respective ejabberd "channel" | 14:19 |
| IPSolver[m] | thanks Imnt | 14:20 |
| lmnt | yw | 14:23 |
| lmnt | a lot of sysadmins I know use xmpp for their company's infrastructure. admittedly, they take the old-fashined text-only solutions without encryption | 14:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 12:25 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: Tory MPs call for Dominic Cummings to resign as he goes to No 10 → https://is.gd/fBJCJw | 14:31 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Mozambique: +26 cases (now 194) since 22 hours ago — Iowa, US: +315 cases (now 17213), +4 deaths (now 449) since 13 hours ago — Sweden: +271 cases (now 33459), +6 deaths (now 3998) since a day ago — Tajikistan: +191 cases (now 2929), +2 deaths (now 46) since 21 hours ago | 14:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health at 12:31 UTC: (news): Coronavirus: What are the rules on caring for children during lockdown? → https://is.gd/p2am9E | 14:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 12:34 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: Tory MPs call for Dominic Cummings to resign as he goes to No 10 → https://is.gd/fBJCJw | 14:45 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Vitamin D concentrations and COVID-19 infection in UK Biobank (85 votes) | https://redd.it/gpm07n | 14:49 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Sierra Leone: +86 cases (now 707), +1 deaths (now 40) since 20 hours ago — Mali: +15 cases (now 1030), +2 deaths (now 65) since 18 hours ago — World: +101 cases (now 5.4 million), +3 deaths (now 344612) since 17 minutes ago | 14:51 |
| ubLIX | 14:54 | |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 12:52 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: Wuhan lab had bat viruses but not Covid-19 strain; Russia reports highest daily death toll → https://is.gd/Uey6c5 | 14:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 13:02 UTC: (news): Coronavirus updates: China ridicules efforts to make it pay coronavirus compensation, NY deaths fall to lowest level since March → https://is.gd/nVwHxZ | 15:06 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Syria: +16 cases (now 86) since a day ago — Qatar: +1501 cases (now 43714), +2 deaths (now 23) since 23 hours ago — Saudi Arabia: +2399 cases (now 72560), +11 deaths (now 390) since 23 hours ago — Virginia, US: +495 cases (now 36244), +12 deaths (now 1171) since 23 hours ago | 15:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 13:09 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: Tory MPs call for Dominic Cummings to resign as he goes to No 10 → https://is.gd/fBJCJw | 15:13 |
| Jigsy | %cases UK | 15:25 |
| Brainstorm | Jigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 257154 confirmed cases (0.4% of the population) and 36675 deaths (14.3% of cases) as of 21 hours ago. 2.2 million tests were performed (11.6% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data. | 15:25 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 13:25 UTC: (news): Coronavirus updates: China ridicules efforts to make it pay coronavirus compensation, NY deaths fall to lowest level since March → https://is.gd/nVwHxZ | 15:27 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Systemic and mucosal antibody secretion specific to SARS-CoV-2 during mild versus severe COVID-19 (81 votes) | https://redd.it/gpkyny | 15:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 13:39 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: U.S. unemployment rate could still be double digits in November, says White House adviser → https://is.gd/JTjmxz | 15:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health at 13:55 UTC: (news): Coronavirus: What are the rules on caring for children during lockdown? → https://is.gd/p2am9E | 16:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from Ars Technica at 14:00 UTC: Gaming & Culture: Stand-up meets COVID-19: How platforms fare with comedy’s two-way street → https://is.gd/WKgcS6 | 16:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 14:11 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: U.S. unemployment rate could still be double digits in November, says White House adviser → https://is.gd/JTjmxz | 16:17 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: COVID-19 Confirmed Case Incidence Age Shift to Young Persons Age 0-19 and 20-39 Years Over Time: Washington State March - April 2020 (85 votes) | https://redd.it/gpnd8q | 16:19 |
| MrtnDk[m] | <Brainstorm "New from r/WorldNews Live* at 21"> I thought there were supposed to be no adverse effects of that drug? | 16:20 |
| kiwi_18 | %cases USA | 16:36 |
| Brainstorm | kiwi_18: In US, there have been 1.7 million confirmed cases (0.5% of the population) and 98740 deaths (5.9% of cases) as of 4 minutes ago. 10.6 million tests were performed (15.7% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 2.0% (assuming deaths/cases with ⅔ undetected), and less than 18.1% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 16:36 |
| metreo | %cases canada | 16:45 |
| Brainstorm | metreo: In Canada, there have been 83621 confirmed cases (0.2% of the population) and 6355 deaths (7.6% of cases) as of 16 hours ago. 1.2 million tests were performed (7.2% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 2.5% (assuming deaths/cases with ⅔ undetected), and less than 12.8% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Canada for time series data. | 16:45 |
| metreo | %cases world | 16:45 |
| Brainstorm | metreo: In World, there have been 5.4 million confirmed cases (0.1% of the population) and 344697 deaths (6.3% of cases) as of 13 minutes ago. 54.0 million tests were performed (10.1% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 2.1% (assuming deaths/cases with ⅔ undetected), and less than 13.2% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=World for time series data. | 16:45 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 14:44 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: Wuhan lab had bat viruses but not Covid-19 strain; Russia reports highest daily death toll → https://is.gd/Uey6c5 | 16:52 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 15:00 UTC: Coronavirus US live: Trump under fire over golf trip as New York Times lists lives lost: Trump tees up controversy as he plays golf in a pandemic ‘Incalculable loss’: paper covers front page with death notices Coronavirus – latest global updates Get a fresh perspective on America – sign up to our First Thing [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/ArNuAO | 17:06 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Cyprus: +8 cases (now 935) since a day ago — Maryland, US: +818 cases (now 46313), +34 deaths (now 2277) since a day ago — Georgia (US), US: +558 cases (now 42800), +1 deaths (now 1823) since 15 hours ago — US: +1727 cases (now 1.7 million), +41 deaths (now 98746) since 2 hours ago | 17:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 15:10 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: U.S. unemployment rate could still be double digits in November, says White House adviser → https://is.gd/JTjmxz | 17:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus* at 15:13 UTC: Coronavirus: The government has spent decades studying what a life is worth. It hasn’t made a difference in the covid-19 crisis. → https://is.gd/uah8Wv | 17:27 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 15:31 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: U.S. unemployment rate could still be double digits in November, says White House adviser → https://is.gd/JTjmxz | 17:34 |
| MrBrave | https://in.dental-tribune.com/news/new-estimate-by-the-cdc-brings-down-the-covid-19-death-rate-to-just-0-26-as-against-whos-3-4/ | 17:35 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Botswana: +5 cases (now 35) since a day ago — Florida, US: +740 cases (now 50867), +4 deaths (now 2237) since 23 hours ago — Canada: +460 cases (now 84081), +25 deaths (now 6380) since 17 hours ago — US: +1001 cases (now 1.7 million), +4 deaths (now 98750) since 36 minutes ago | 17:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 15:44 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: Boris Johnson to lead No 10 briefing at 5pm amid calls for Dominic Cummings to go → https://is.gd/fBJCJw | 17:55 |
| LjL | Boris Johnson speaking shortly at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4jzboq6Ftw | 17:58 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 15:56 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Main Street Lending program to offer loans to mid-size companies, Boston Fed President says → https://is.gd/JTjmxz | 18:02 |
| Jigsy | >Boris Johnson says Dominic Cummings acted 'responsibly, legally and with integrity' | 18:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 16:05 UTC: Coronavirus US live: Birx says Trump wears mask when not socially distancing: Trump tees up controversy as he plays golf in a pandemic ‘Incalculable loss’: NYT covers front page with death notices Coronavirus – latest global updates Get a fresh perspective on America – sign up to our First Thing newsletter [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/ArNuAO | 18:09 |
| Jigsy | Ah, the old "one rule for us, one rule for the serfs" approach. | 18:09 |
| lmnt | He speaks so bad | 18:12 |
| lmnt | Probably even on Trump niveau | 18:12 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Moscow City, Russia: +48004 cases (now 163913), +869 deaths (now 1993) since 12 days ago — Vaesternorrland, Sweden: +4699 cases (now 5050), +422 deaths (now 474) since 12 days ago — St Petersburg City, Russia: +5628 cases (now 13339), +77 deaths (now 133) since 12 days ago — Nizhniy Novgorod, Russia: +3314 cases (now 8047), +34 deaths (now 65) since 12 days ago | 18:22 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 16:17 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: Boris Johnson says Dominic Cummings acted 'responsibly, legally and with integrity' → https://is.gd/fBJCJw | 18:23 |
| Haley[mt][m] | !cases US | 18:24 |
| LjL | %cases US | 18:24 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: In US, there have been 1.7 million confirmed cases (0.5% of the population) and 98794 deaths (5.9% of cases) as of 5 minutes ago. 25.5 million tests were performed (6.6% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 2.0% (assuming deaths/cases with ⅔ undetected), and less than 18.1% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 18:24 |
| CovBot | In United States there have been a total of 1,671,658 cases as of 2020-05-24 16:04:00 UTC. Of these 1,125,827 (67.3%) are still sick or may have recovered without being recorded, 447,056 (26.7%) have definitely recovered and 98,775 (5.9%) have died. | 18:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus* at 16:18 UTC: Coronavirus: PM backs key aide Dominic Cummings in lockdown row → https://is.gd/3CqZ0J | 18:30 |
| Arsanerit | 13:49:29 < Haley[mt][m]> Arsanerit: If you tell me where you are from, I'll dig out some things your peolple did in the past. Not so glorious too. | 18:32 |
| Arsanerit | Haley[mt][m]: I live in Germany. | 18:32 |
| Arsanerit | Haley[mt][m]: You don't need to dig. My passport is Dutch and my fellow countrymen have done plenty nasty, in the slave trade or more recently during the decolonisation in Indonesia. | 18:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 16:35 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Gov. Cuomo allows New York professional sports leagues to start training camps → https://is.gd/JTjmxz | 18:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 16:42 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: National Security adviser O'Brien says U.S. may ban travelers from Brazil → https://is.gd/JTjmxz | 18:44 |
| EricGrahamMacEac | !cases Canada | 18:50 |
| CovBot | In Canada there have been a total of 84,081 cases as of 2020-05-24 16:33:00 UTC. Of these 34,396 (40.9%) are still sick or may have recovered without being recorded, 43,305 (51.5%) have definitely recovered and 6,380 (7.6%) have died. | 18:50 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 16:47 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: U.S. may ban travelers from Brazil, national security adviser O'Brien says → https://is.gd/JTjmxz | 18:52 |
| Arsanerit | U.S. has no travel ban from Brazil yet?! | 18:52 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/coronavirus: Covid-19 patients are not infectious after 11 days, even if they test positive, new study shows (10288 votes) | https://redd.it/gpn7gc | 18:56 |
| metreo | Arsanerit crazy right? | 19:05 |
| bin_bash | i dont think any airlines are flying internationally right now | 19:12 |
| metreo | Look at a flight tracker you will see | 19:16 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 17:19 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: Boris Johnson says Dominic Cummings acted 'responsibly, legally and with integrity' → https://is.gd/fBJCJw | 19:27 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Benin: +56 cases (now 191) since 3 days ago — Mayotte: +66 cases (now 1587), +1 deaths (now 20) since a day ago — Chile: +3709 cases (now 69102), +45 deaths (now 718) since a day ago — New York, US: +1377 cases (now 371033), +119 deaths (now 29231) since 16 hours ago | 19:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health at 17:32 UTC: (news): Coronavirus: What are the rules on caring for children during lockdown? → https://is.gd/p2am9E | 19:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 17:36 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: Boris Johnson says Dominic Cummings acted 'responsibly, legally and with integrity' → https://is.gd/fBJCJw | 19:48 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Angola: +8 cases (now 69) since 18 hours ago — New Jersey, US: +446 cases (now 155330), +39 deaths (now 11134) since 19 minutes ago — US: +446 cases (now 1.7 million), +39 deaths (now 99003) since 19 minutes ago — World: +718 cases (now 5.5 million), +52 deaths (now 345487) since 19 minutes ago | 19:52 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health at 17:54 UTC: (news): Coronavirus: What are the rules on caring for children during lockdown? → https://is.gd/p2am9E | 20:02 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for South Africa: +1240 cases (now 22583), +22 deaths (now 429) since 22 hours ago — Canada: +573 cases (now 84655), +44 deaths (now 6424) since 34 minutes ago — Spain: +482 cases (now 282852), +74 deaths (now 28752) since 23 hours ago — World: +2521 cases (now 5.5 million), +143 deaths (now 345630) since 18 minutes ago | 20:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 18:25 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Spain to ease restrictions on beaches, restaurants in Madrid and Barcelona → https://is.gd/JTjmxz | 20:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 18:31 UTC: Ohio's Republican governor calls for public to wear masks: 'This is not about whether you're left or right': Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine addressed the controversial debate on wearing masks on Sunday by joining North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum in dismissing the politicization of wearing face coverings to curb the spread of the coronavirus. → https://is.gd/TtLiJ7 | 20:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 18:39 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: France asks citizens to avoid foreign trips; Wuhan lab had bat viruses but not Covid-19 → https://is.gd/Uey6c5 | 20:45 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Current tobacco smoking and risk from COVID-19: results from a population symptom app in over 2.4 million people (83 votes) | https://redd.it/gpfc3e | 20:51 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 18:50 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Spain to ease restrictions on beaches, restaurants in Madrid and Barcelona → https://is.gd/JTjmxz | 20:52 |
| torgal | vaping has a faster kill rate | 20:52 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Comoros: +9 cases (now 87) since 2 days ago — Ohio, US: +433 cases (now 31911), +9 deaths (now 1969) since 20 hours ago — Arkansas, US: +147 cases (now 5922), +1 deaths (now 116) since 20 hours ago — Iraq: +197 cases (now 4469), +8 deaths (now 160) since a day ago | 20:52 |
| LjL | torgal, but also lower | 20:57 |
| torgal | it will catch up | 20:58 |
| LjL | but then it won't be very fast | 20:58 |
| LjL | i don't think vaping is harmless, but the US incident was clearly due to something that shouldn't have been there | 20:59 |
| torgal | only time will up the body count | 20:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 18:55 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: France asks citizens to avoid foreign trips; Wuhan lab had bat viruses but not Covid-19 → https://is.gd/Uey6c5 | 20:59 |
| torgal | and use | 20:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 19:09 UTC: Coronavirus US live: Birx says Trump wears mask when not socially distancing: Trump tees up controversy as he plays golf in a pandemic ‘Incalculable loss’: NYT covers front page with death notices Coronavirus – latest global updates Get a fresh perspective on America – sign up to our First Thing newsletter [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/ArNuAO | 21:20 |
| nixonix | is there a "per capita" switch for offloop url? | 21:41 |
| rmd | If you're literally publishing the names of people who've died from Corona, doesn't that mean the loss is calculable? | 21:44 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: The Crisis in Nursing Home Care Exposed by the COVID-19 Pandemic (82 votes) | https://redd.it/gpr20w | 21:45 |
| withorwithout | bin_bash: there are some international flights, I was in one of those recently | 21:48 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 19:33 UTC: Coronavirus live news: Austria's president apologises for curfew breach: France asks citizens to avoid foreign trips; US likely to impose travel restrictions on Brazil; Afghanistan cases top 10,000 → https://is.gd/Uey6c5 | 21:48 |
| Haley[mt][m] | !cases US | 21:53 |
| CovBot | In United States there have been a total of 1,677,870 cases as of 2020-05-24 19:33:00 UTC. Of these 1,127,637 (67.2%) are still sick or may have recovered without being recorded, 451,176 (26.9%) have definitely recovered and 99,057 (5.9%) have died. | 21:53 |
| Haley[mt][m] | !cases world | 21:54 |
| CovBot | In World there have been a total of 5,473,669 cases as of 2020-05-24 19:33:00 UTC. Of these 2,840,805 (51.9%) are still sick or may have recovered without being recorded, 2,287,107 (41.8%) have definitely recovered and 345,757 (6.3%) have died. | 21:54 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 19:47 UTC: Ohio's Republican governor calls for public to wear masks: 'This is not about whether you're left or right': Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine addressed the controversial debate on wearing masks on Sunday by joining North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum in dismissing the politicization of wearing face coverings to curb the spread of the coronavirus. → https://is.gd/TtLiJ7 | 21:55 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 19:50 UTC: Coronavirus US live: Birx says Trump wears mask when not socially distancing: Trump tees up controversy as he plays golf in a pandemic ‘Incalculable loss’: NYT covers front page with death notices Coronavirus – latest global updates Get a fresh perspective on America – sign up to our First Thing newsletter [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/ArNuAO | 22:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 20:44 UTC: Coronavirus live news: Austria's president apologises for curfew breach: France asks citizens to avoid foreign trips; US likely to impose travel restrictions on Brazil; Afghanistan cases top 10,000 → https://is.gd/Uey6c5 | 22:51 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +16415 cases (now 5.5 million), +517 deaths (now 346218) since 2 hours ago — Peru: +4205 cases (now 119959), +83 deaths (now 3456) since 23 hours ago — Illinois, US: +2508 cases (now 110304), +66 deaths (now 4856) since a day ago — Massachusetts, US: +1013 cases (now 92675), +68 deaths (now 6372) since 23 hours ago | 22:53 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: A Study on Infectivity of Asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 Carriers (88 votes) | https://redd.it/gptioz | 22:58 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 20:57 UTC: Coronavirus US live: Birx says Trump wears mask when not socially distancing – as it happened: Trump tees up controversy as he plays golf in a pandemic ‘Incalculable loss’: NYT covers front page with death notices Coronavirus – latest global updates Get a fresh perspective on America – sign up to our First [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/ArNuAO | 23:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 21:07 UTC: /u/slakmehl: Nate Silver su Twitter: "US daily numbers via @COVID19Tracking. Be careful with this one. Newly-reported deaths Today: 654 Yesterday: 1,091 One week ago (5/17): 839 Newly-reported cases T: 21K Y: 21K 5/17: 21K Newly-reported tests T: 379K Y: 365K 5/17: 403K Positive test rate: T: 6% Y: 6% 5/17: 5%" → https://is.gd/YHW0Ec | 23:12 |
| withorwithout | https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32405162/ this is interesting, so lockdowns effect are not that significant. This can explain why some countries were already having a downward tendency on R even before any lockdown was in place | 23:19 |
| genera | its the lockdonw of big events only? | 23:20 |
| withorwithout | nothing that strange, tbh. People already knew lockdowns/quarantine didn't really have a big effect, not as big as "just" increasing distancing and personal hygiene | 23:21 |
| withorwithout | genera: no | 23:21 |
| genera | we just had an "big" event here in Frankfurt. a church. 1 service, now 100+ in quaratine over 3 counties and some hospitalized too | 23:22 |
| genera | so, lockdown of supermarktes and lockdowns of rallies/soccer/churches is prob something different | 23:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 21:15 UTC: Coronavirus live news: Austria's president apologises for curfew breach: France asks citizens to avoid foreign trips; US likely to impose travel restrictions on Brazil; Afghanistan cases top 10,000 → https://is.gd/Uey6c5 | 23:27 |
| withorwithout | genera: ah yeah, those are critical, didn't get what you were asking before. But sure, you don't really need a full lockdown to avoid those, of course. | 23:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 21:30 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Spain to ease restrictions on beaches, restaurants in Madrid and Barcelona → https://is.gd/JTjmxz | 23:34 |
| withorwithout | ooh, nice for Spain | 23:35 |
| withorwithout | summer is coming, they need that :P | 23:35 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 21:34 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Trump suspends travel from Brazil; Spain eases dining restrictions in major cities → https://is.gd/JTjmxz | 23:40 |
| metreo | %cases world | 23:42 |
| Brainstorm | metreo: In World, there have been 5.5 million confirmed cases (0.1% of the population) and 346230 deaths (6.3% of cases) as of 7 minutes ago. 89.5 million tests were performed (6.1% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 2.1% (assuming deaths/cases with ⅔ undetected), and less than 13.1% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=World for time series data. | 23:42 |
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