libera/##covid-19/ Monday, 2020-06-01

ytlyv97https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-diB65scQU&list=RDLVUcz6wPrCs&index=200:16
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: Italy Is Reopening for Tourism in June, But Not for American Travelers (10800 votes) | https://redd.it/gu4czd00:31
BrainstormUpdates for Libya: +26 cases (now 156) since a day ago — Brazil: +8141 cases (now 514849), +213 deaths (now 29314) since an hour ago — Panama: +445 cases (now 13463), +6 deaths (now 336) since 23 hours ago — California, US: +1345 cases (now 112454), +24 deaths (now 4240) since an hour ago01:07
LjLpointless anti-privacy political criticism of an app that is coming way too late anyway: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=it&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.punto-informatico.it%2Ffriuli-no-app-immuni%2F01:33
LjLnow this moron governor wakes up and realizes he can't lock every contact up because it's up to them to notify authorities01:33
LjLNO FUCKING WAY01:33
LjLbut i can't fathom how it's *still* discretionary for the regions to "decide to adopt" this or not01:33
LjLwe aren't even a federal country, why do the regions have so much power01:34
nixonixis it just me understanding google's finnish->english translation better than italian->english, or does google really do almost decent job with finnish nowdays? (it has translated swedish and norweigian quite well for some time already, imo)01:45
BrainstormUpdates for Suriname: +8 cases (now 23) since 4 hours ago — New Hampshire, US: +106 cases (now 4651), +3 deaths (now 245) since a day ago — US: +766 cases (now 1.8 million), +14 deaths (now 106190) since 48 minutes ago — Georgia (US), US: +77 cases (now 47063), +11 deaths (now 2053) since 5 hours ago01:52
LjLnixonix, honestly i posted that without looking at the translation first. usually it does a pretty decent job with italian these days01:56
LjLhmm i see there's quite a lot of rhetorical devices being peppered around01:56
LjLwhich throw the translator off a little01:57
LjLanyway, the governor is unhappy with the app, which is not even rolled out yet, and when it is, it will only be rolled out experimentally in some regions, and ultimately, it is just one of the many "empty shells" around the Google+Apple protocol01:57
LjLhe's unhappy because he can't get a list of positives and all their contacts01:58
LjLnot having which is kind of the whole point of making a compromise between needing this, and keeping some privacy01:58
LjLwe're already unlikely to use it, if using it were positively scary in terms of consequences, nobody would, unless it were made mandatory, which would be... well, it has been done.01:59
nixonixhere's a list of finnish expert opinions, used by media during the epidemic: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fi&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.verkkouutiset.fi%2Fnain-asiantuntijat-arvasivat-koronasta%2F%23c2ee949302:20
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Azithromycin and Hydroxychloroquine Accelerate Recovery of Outpatients with Mild/Moderate COVID-19 (81 votes) | https://redd.it/gu5a2c02:50
LjL%tell nixonix: i'd ask for citations on the conflicting finnish claims, but i've heard all of them enough i know they're more than plausible ;(02:52
BrainstormLjL, I'll pass nixonix your message when they are around. 02:52
steeltormentor[mhttps://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKBN2370OQ03:10
ubLXII%title03:11
BrainstormubLXII: From uk.mobile.reuters.com: New coronavirus losing potency, top Italian doctor says | Article [AMP] | Reuters03:11
steeltormentor[mThe article is about some Italian doctors say the virus is weakening..viral load is much lower than it was 2 months ago.03:11
steeltormentor[mWhy is the virus weakening and how?03:12
steeltormentor[mTemperature? Masks?03:14
steeltormentor[mWhat is the biggest factor that contributes to this virus weakening?03:14
ubLXIInot amp link: https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-virus/new-coronavirus-losing-potency-top-italian-doctor-says-idUKKBN2370OQ03:15
BrainstormUpdates for Guatemala: +348 cases (now 5087), +6 deaths (now 108) since 23 hours ago — Mexico: +3152 cases (now 90664), +151 deaths (now 9930) since a day ago — World: +3272 cases (now 6.3 million), +164 deaths (now 374013) since an hour ago — Canada: +19 cases (now 90947), +1 deaths (now 7295) since 6 hours ago03:22
BrainstormUpdates for Haiti: +259 cases (now 2124), +3 deaths (now 44) since a day ago — World: +259 cases (now 6.3 million), +3 deaths (now 374016) since 23 minutes ago03:37
tinwhiskerssteeltormentor[m: "weakening" is probably not the best word to use, but over time viruses tend to (but not always) become less lethal merely because the more lethal variations are often not as successful at spreading as the less lethal variations. It's probably just natural selection at work (I didn't read the article so may be way off but that's common).04:02
de-factobut that should only be a significant selection for the virus if most infections end fatal e.g. mutations which let their hosts live longer would differ by promoting spreading of that new strain. SARS-CoV-2 already has quite low fatality (e.g. compared to ebola) and even asymptomatic spreads so quite "optimal" for the virus already. If the host happily runs around without symptoms and spreads the virus without even knowing its pretty 04:31
de-factoefficient i guess04:31
de-factouff net split04:32
BrainstormUpdates for Guangdong, China: +2 cases (now 1595) since 2 days ago — Quebec, Canada: +408 cases (now 51059), +202 deaths (now 4641) since a day ago — Bolivia: +390 cases (now 9982), +3 deaths (now 313) since a day ago — Ontario, Canada: +367 cases (now 29390), +12 deaths (now 2344) since a day ago05:08
RadioActive%cases usa05:16
BrainstormRadioActive: In US, there have been 1.8 million confirmed cases (0.6% of the population) and 106195 deaths (5.8% of cases) as of 2 hours ago. 25.5 million tests were performed (7.2% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 1.9% (assuming deaths/cases with ⅔ undetected), and less than 15.0% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data.05:16
MBip[m]%cases world09:23
BrainstormMBip[m]: In World, there have been 6.3 million confirmed cases (0.1% of the population) and 374147 deaths (6.0% of cases) as of 22 minutes ago. 97.9 million tests were performed (6.4% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 2.0% (assuming deaths/cases with ⅔ undetected), and less than 11.6% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=World for time series data.09:23
MBip[m]%cases nl09:23
BrainstormMBip[m]: In Netherlands, there have been 46442 confirmed cases (0.3% of the population) and 5956 deaths (12.8% of cases) as of 19 hours ago. 349150 tests were performed (13.3% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Netherlands for time series data.09:23
MBip[m]%cases germany09:24
BrainstormMBip[m]: In Germany, there have been 183494 confirmed cases (0.2% of the population) and 8605 deaths (4.7% of cases) as of 9 hours ago. 4.0 million tests were performed (4.6% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 1.6% (assuming deaths/cases with ⅔ undetected), and less than 4.9% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Germany for time series data.09:24
kirk781Germany has flattened it's curve, right?09:33
dlm-johannes[m]Right10:11
adventurerI really wish I could find information about excess mortality in Australia about the excess mortality in Australia if there is an excess. Like this graph from Sweden: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_Sweden#Excess_mortality10:14
BrainstormUpdates for Uganda: +40 cases (now 457) since 15 hours ago — Russia: +9035 cases (now 414878), +162 deaths (now 4855) since a day ago — Pakistan: +2964 cases (now 72460), +60 deaths (now 1543) since a day ago — Bangladesh: +2381 cases (now 49534), +22 deaths (now 672) since a day ago12:09
Urchin%data croatia12:17
BrainstormUrchin: In Croatia, there have been 2246 confirmed cases (0.1% of the population) and 103 deaths (4.6% of cases) as of a day ago. 66405 tests were performed (3.4% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 1.5% (assuming deaths/cases with ⅔ undetected), and less than 4.7% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Croatia for time series data.12:17
BrainstormUpdates for Iran: +2979 cases (now 154445), +81 deaths (now 7878) since 23 hours ago — World: +3224 cases (now 6.3 million), +81 deaths (now 374436) since 22 minutes ago — Romania: +141 cases (now 19398) since 22 minutes ago — Senegal: +94 cases (now 3739) since 23 hours ago12:24
BrainstormUpdates for Nepal: +226 cases (now 1798) since 17 hours ago — Madagascar: +55 cases (now 826) since 22 hours ago — Oman: +786 cases (now 12223), +1 deaths (now 50) since 13 hours ago — Kuwait: +719 cases (now 27762), +8 deaths (now 220) since a day ago12:54
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Healthcare workers & SARS-CoV-2 infection in India: A case-control investigation in the time of COVID-19 (80 votes) | https://redd.it/gu6ybi13:00
BrainstormUpdates for Ethiopia: +85 cases (now 1257), +1 deaths (now 12) since 23 hours ago — Qatar: +1523 cases (now 58433), +2 deaths (now 40) since a day ago — Belarus: +847 cases (now 43403), +5 deaths (now 240) since 19 hours ago — World: +2868 cases (now 6.3 million), +8 deaths (now 374457) since 35 minutes ago13:24
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: ‘Coronavirus Cooking Survey’ Finds That People Are Eating Healthier and Wasting Less Food (10026 votes) | https://redd.it/gucr3h13:48
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: First study of COVID-19 patients with diabetes shows that 10% die within seven days of hospital admission and two thirds are men (95 votes) | https://redd.it/guibcg13:48
BrainstormUpdates for North Macedonia: +89 cases (now 2315), +7 deaths (now 140) since 23 hours ago — World: +501 cases (now 6.3 million), +8 deaths (now 374465) since 37 minutes ago — Bahrain: +406 cases (now 11804) since 14 hours ago — Maldives: +1 deaths (now 6) since 16 hours ago13:54
Jigsy%cases UK14:09
BrainstormJigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 274762 confirmed cases (0.4% of the population) and 38489 deaths (14.0% of cases) as of 20 hours ago. 5.4 million tests were performed (5.1% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data.14:09
JigsyWe've passed 6M, then?14:10
rawcodefarmerYou reckon we're doing super badly or just that we're reporting more accurately?14:12
mrdatarawcodefarmer, i estimate UK has 1.6 M real cases14:46
rawcodefarmerWhere are you baseD?14:49
Jigsyhttps://i.redd.it/exfkhzux55251.png15:34
JigsyHeh.15:34
BrainstormUpdates for Iraq: +429 cases (now 6868), +10 deaths (now 215) since 23 hours ago — Saudi Arabia: +1881 cases (now 87142), +22 deaths (now 525) since 23 hours ago — Virginia, US: +791 cases (now 45398), +17 deaths (now 1392) since 23 hours ago — Maryland, US: +549 cases (now 53327), +20 deaths (now 2552) since 23 hours ago16:50
Jigsy%cases Minnesota16:59
BrainstormJigsy: In Minnesota, US, there have been 24850 confirmed cases (0.5% of the population) and 1050 deaths (4.2% of cases) as of 21 hours ago. 249519 tests were performed (10.0% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data.16:59
BrainstormUpdates for Cuba: +38 cases (now 2083) since 23 hours ago — Florida, US: +667 cases (now 56830), +8 deaths (now 2460) since 20 hours ago — US: +1677 cases (now 1.8 million), +8 deaths (now 106270) since 32 minutes ago — Azerbaijan: +168 cases (now 5662), +5 deaths (now 68) since 23 hours ago17:20
BrainstormUpdates for Chile: +5471 cases (now 105159), +59 deaths (now 1113) since 21 hours ago — World: +5667 cases (now 6.3 million), +106 deaths (now 374799) since 20 minutes ago — India: +196 cases (now 194700), +47 deaths (now 5495) since 20 minutes ago17:35
lance0000Who's pumped for quarantine round 2?18:25
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Gilead Announces Results From Phase 3 Trial of Remdesivir in Patients With Moderate COVID-19 (81 votes) | https://redd.it/gukvxt18:38
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Commentary on “Hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin as a treatment of COVID-19: results of an open label non-randomized clinical trial” by Gautret et al (81 votes) | https://redd.it/gu1y2719:15
BrainstormUpdates for Malawi: +52 cases (now 336) since 18 hours ago — Louisiana, US: +421 cases (now 40341), +10 deaths (now 2801) since 23 hours ago — Minnesota, US: +358 cases (now 25208), +10 deaths (now 1060) since a day ago — Mississippi, US: +251 cases (now 15752), +5 deaths (now 739) since a day ago19:20
BrainstormUpdates for Eswatini: +8 cases (now 293), +1 deaths (now 3) since 23 hours ago — Michigan, US: +135 cases (now 57532), +25 deaths (now 5516) since 22 hours ago — Georgia (US), US: +122 cases (now 47618), +19 deaths (now 2074) since 2 hours ago — US: +509 cases (now 1.8 million), +44 deaths (now 106379) since 16 minutes ago19:35
pinkorangeokay19:50
pinkorangeanyone here... :)19:50
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: 57% of Americans say it’s more important to try to control the spread of COVID-19 than to try to restart the economy, new @ABC News/WaPo poll finds. (10665 votes) | https://redd.it/gulu7b19:51
BrainstormUpdates for Yemen: +31 cases (now 354), +4 deaths (now 84) since a day ago — Central African Rep.: +58 cases (now 1069), +2 deaths (now 4) since a day ago — United Arab Emirates: +635 cases (now 35192), +2 deaths (now 266) since a day ago — New York, US: +850 cases (now 380752), +51 deaths (now 29969) since 19 hours ago20:06
BrainstormUpdates for Suriname: +5 cases (now 28) since 18 hours ago — Brazil: +4712 cases (now 519704), +193 deaths (now 29534) since 15 hours ago — Ohio, US: +401 cases (now 35984), +44 deaths (now 2206) since 38 minutes ago — California, US: +422 cases (now 113006), +11 deaths (now 4251) since 17 hours ago20:36
BrainstormUpdates for Mauritania: +58 cases (now 588) since a day ago — France: +338 cases (now 189220), +31 deaths (now 28833) since a day ago — World: +452 cases (now 6.3 million), +31 deaths (now 376111) since 17 minutes ago — Maldives: +56 cases (now 1829) since 7 hours ago20:51
BrainstormUpdates for Mayotte: +235 cases (now 1934), +3 deaths (now 24) since 3 days ago — Egypt: +1399 cases (now 26384), +46 deaths (now 1005) since a day ago — Wisconsin, US: +140 cases (now 18543), +3 deaths (now 595) since 23 hours ago — Oregon, US: +59 cases (now 4302), +1 deaths (now 154) since 23 hours ago21:06
pwr22Anyone else feel like the UK is manipulating the figures?21:52
fivepebbles[m]how come?21:59
fivepebbles[m]%cases Germany22:01
Brainstormfivepebbles[m]: In Germany, there have been 183663 confirmed cases (0.2% of the population) and 8613 deaths (4.7% of cases) as of 59 minutes ago. 4.0 million tests were performed (4.6% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 1.6% (assuming deaths/cases with ⅔ undetected), and less than 4.9% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Germany for time series data.22:05
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Lilly Begins World's First Study of a Potential COVID-19 Antibody Treatment in Humans (81 votes) | https://redd.it/gumukk22:10
pynaon lockdown for both covid and simulatanously on day 3 of curfew from police brutality protests 22:19
pynaamaerica is so great 22:20

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