| LjL | nixonix, based on skimming the study, no | 00:01 |
|---|---|---|
| LjL | nixonix, https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.26.20140731v1.full.pdf | 00:01 |
| nixonix | pcr. false positives from other coronaviruses | 00:03 |
| nixonix | but not impossible, because it was that late 2019 | 00:03 |
| LjL | oh lawd... look, these people are praying, supposedly "for the handling of the new coronavirus and seeking blessings for the start of a “new normal”" https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/bedff3e880b68832a4119f9b6c59fbbd4df3eda1/0_0_3000_2001/master/3000.jpg?width=620&quality=45&auto=format&fit=max&dpr=2&s=369b3e9641e44c7d6db30874141bbc5a | 00:03 |
| LjL | look at their masks (those who have it) | 00:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia live news: Victorians may be advised to wear masks as lockdown continues – latest updates → https://is.gd/j7h21z | 00:04 |
| nixonix | but how likely that there were amounts that would show up that time, without starting an epidemic that would have been noticed (unless it was less infective variant at the time). most likely just false positives imo | 00:04 |
| LjL | nixonix, yes they did not detect it in the October sample but detected it in all samples until March (the "official" start of the outbreak in Brazil). bit of a coincidence. | 00:05 |
| LjL | yes this has been said for Milan, Barcelona, wherever they did it in France... are all these people finding false positives and being clueless? | 00:05 |
| nixonix | but they got their 15 minutes | 00:05 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Sierra Leone: +9 cases (now 1542) since a day ago — Texas, US: +216 cases (now 199413) since 30 minutes ago — Iowa, US: +24 cases (now 31377) since an hour ago — Colombia: +3721 cases (now 117110), +63 deaths (now 4064) since 17 hours ago | 00:20 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live: Spain puts part of Galicia back into lockdown; doubts over Republican National Convention → https://is.gd/hxNSEk | 00:23 |
| LjL | i am not sure i'm positive i've made a improvement in the heuristics for showing and sorting countries that are shown as having the most concerning amount of new cases | 00:31 |
| LjL | with fewer double negatives, i suck | 00:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia live news: Victorians may be advised to wear masks as lockdown continues – latest updates → https://is.gd/j7h21z | 00:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live: Spain puts part of Galicia back into lockdown; doubts over Republican National Convention → https://is.gd/hxNSEk | 00:52 |
| nixonix | https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/07/04/kazakhstan-becomes-first-country-re-impose-nationwide-lockdown/?utm_content=telegraph&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1593981837 | 01:11 |
| nixonix | %title | 01:11 |
| Brainstorm | nixonix: From www.telegraph.co.uk: How not to do Covid: Kazakhstan first country in the world to fully return to lockdown | 01:11 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Hindu: U.S. House Speaker tests positive for coronavirus: Mr. Gunn is the State’s highest-ranking political figure to publicly disclose a positive test for the coronavirus → https://is.gd/91ewur | 01:11 |
| LjL | %cases kazakhstan | 01:13 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: In Kazakhstan, there have been 47171 confirmed cases (0.3% of the population) and 188 deaths (0.4% of cases) as of 18 hours ago. 1.6 million tests were performed (3.0% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Kazakhstan for time series data. | 01:13 |
| LjL | can't say i followed the situation there | 01:13 |
| LjL | ok wait | 01:14 |
| LjL | surely that's an error in the graph | 01:14 |
| LjL | but legacy shows the same | 01:15 |
| LjL | but that's impossible | 01:15 |
| ryouma | why is sweden better than az and ny? | 01:15 |
| LjL | ryouma, i wouldn't say the trend is better than NY | 01:17 |
| LjL | as to Arizona, sorry, you didn't get lucky ;( | 01:17 |
| ryouma | http://www.offloop.net/covid19/?default=New%20York;Arizona;Italy;Hubei;Sweden&byPopulation=yes&cumulative=no&smooth=yes&miscType=Rate&miscPeriod=7&miscSource=Deaths | 01:17 |
| nixonix | less spreading in sweden before measures (another thing, were the measures enough, but it then started to go down there too) | 01:18 |
| ryouma | what measuers were taken? | 01:18 |
| nixonix | which reminded me from https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-07/tl-pss070120.php | 01:18 |
| nixonix | %title | 01:18 |
| Brainstorm | nixonix: From www.eurekalert.org: The Lancet Infectious Diseases: Individual decisions to reduce movement -- even before state-wide stay-at-home policies were introduced -- likely helped slow the spread of COVID-19 in the USA | [...] | 01:18 |
| nixonix | as happened in finland too, during the 2 weeks before closure of bars and restaurants, their sales were cut about 60% because most started to avoid them (then the closure took another 20%, and what was left was deliveries and takeway) | 01:19 |
| LjL | She continues: "If individual-level actions were not taken and social distancing behaviour was delayed until the state-level directives were implemented, COVID-19 would have been able to circulate unmitigated for additional weeks in some locations, inevitably resulting in more infections and deaths. This demonstrates that it is within the power of each US resident to help slow the spread of COVID-19." | 01:20 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Somaliland: +10 cases (now 560) since 3 days ago — N. Cyprus: +5 cases (now 113) since 3 days ago — Guam: +8 cases (now 288) since 2 days ago — Washington, US: +406 cases (now 36543) since 23 hours ago | 01:20 |
| LjL | or more cogently... it demonstrates state/federal intervention has been worse than individual efforts? | 01:20 |
| LjL | and isn't the reason we have government, originally, to behave more efficiently collectively than we can as individuals? | 01:21 |
| LjL | bit pointless then | 01:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia live news: Victoria may advise wearing masks as lockdown continues – latest updates → https://is.gd/j7h21z | 01:21 |
| nixonix | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_Sweden#Response_from_the_authorities | 01:21 |
| nixonix | https://ourworldindata.org/policy-responses-covid | 01:22 |
| AIDS_NEEDLE | *dab dab dab* | 01:28 |
| LjL | (Sweden) On 16 March 2020, they also recommended that employers should recommend their employees work from home.[111] One month later, statistics showed that roughly half the Swedish workforce was working from home.[114] | 01:30 |
| LjL | ryouma, has it been similar in Arizona to your knowledge? | 01:30 |
| LjL | "In April, [...] a 50% drop in public transport usage, [...] a 30% drop in the number of cars,[123] and 70% fewer pedestrians.[114]" | 01:31 |
| ryouma | no idea. cars were fewer during lockdown. | 01:31 |
| ryouma | i had the impression that sweden was sort of doing nothing. it seems it was not. az could be said to have been doing nothing for quite some time. | 01:33 |
| LjL | oh bah, Google Mobility only gives you stuff from May onwards now :( | 01:33 |
| nixonix | burn-murdoch has some mobility charts | 01:34 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Netherlands: +286 cases (now 50621) since 3 days ago — Somalia: +36 cases (now 2997) since a day ago — Colorado, US: +199 cases (now 34065) since a day ago — Washington, US: +18 cases (now 36561) since 16 minutes ago | 01:35 |
| LjL | i'm loading Google's CSV, i think the full data may be there, just taking more spreadsheeting | 01:36 |
| nixonix | https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1252002430239342593 | 01:36 |
| LjL | well, looking at US in general in that link, nixonix, even though it doesn't have Arizona, one does wonder how the hell is Sweden managing so relatively much better than the US | 01:37 |
| LjL | and the answer is... | 01:37 |
| LjL | i have no answer! | 01:37 |
| LjL | turns out my Gnumeric has no idea how to load a 5MB CSV file without killing my computer | 01:38 |
| ryouma | more introverted? less politics? more coherent measures? | 01:39 |
| ubLIX[m] | healthy on average, maybe | 01:39 |
| ryouma | can libreoffice calc load one with less issue? | 01:39 |
| ubLIX[m] | *healthier | 01:39 |
| LjL | i don't know, i don't have it installed ryouma | 01:40 |
| LjL | ryouma, https://www.gstatic.com/covid19/mobility/Global_Mobility_Report.csv is the file if you want to try | 01:40 |
| ryouma | i can't do such things at this time | 01:40 |
| LjL | okay | 01:40 |
| nixonix | one thing in sweden is, it was mostly in stockholm city first. the rest of sweden was low prevalence. then slowly they got the cases downwards in stockholm, while at some other areas they started to increase, but slower than initially in stockholm | 01:43 |
| LjL | well isn't that the story of many of the local epidemics? in Italy, outside of Lombardy and surrounding areas, they were largely unscathed (and may be "better targets" for a second wave...?) | 01:44 |
| LjL | but still the mobility data suggest that Sweden *really* did much less than Europe but even the US on a qualitative basis | 01:45 |
| nixonix | i havent compared deaths lately, but at some point it was like 1/6 of ny city in stockholm city, and supposedly the prevalence something like that too (may 1st ab survey in ny city was 19.9%, so my estimate was around 1/6 of that in stockholm city, not county) | 01:45 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Pandemic Practice: Horror Fans and Morbidly Curious Individuals Are More Psychologically Resilient During the COVID-19 Pandemic (84 votes) | https://psyarxiv.com/4c7af/ | https://redd.it/hlspzq | 01:46 |
| nixonix | then some prevalence in other central sweden, and very low in most of the country that time. now its developed a bit from that | 01:46 |
| nixonix | you should find stockholm mobility charts. cant remember if burn-murdoch had those, but google didnt catch | 01:47 |
| LjL | nixonix, yeah so my question is, considering they had even more mobility (which at this time i am conflating with an indication of "measures taken", which may be misleading, admittedly), why did that happen? why is the US now *so dramatically much worse off*? the easy answer is "bad lockdowns", but they still had more than Sweden | 01:47 |
| nixonix | and remember that stockholm may mean county of 2.3M or city of 1M i think | 01:48 |
| nixonix | and foreigners dont understand the difference, they just write stockholm | 01:48 |
| LjL | nixonix, Google's charts are per-county, however unless someone gets and parses the CSV, they're currently useless | 01:48 |
| LjL | although... i think i may have mirrored them locally before when they were earlier? | 01:48 |
| LjL | nixonix, foreigners don't "not understand they difference", it's probably just not explained to them | 01:49 |
| LjL | Milan is a city of 1.3M, and a province of 3M or so | 01:49 |
| LjL | very similar, but when i say "Milan" on here i may myself not be specific | 01:49 |
| nixonix | i dont understand. both are milan? | 01:49 |
| LjL | can't expect people to see the specifics when i don't give them | 01:49 |
| LjL | yes, Milan is a province, which has Milan as its capital | 01:49 |
| nixonix | see. this is how it goes | 01:50 |
| LjL | Milan is also the capital of Lombardy, but Lombardy is a region, containing several provinces | 01:50 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Hindu: Undergo quarantine before tying the knot, Rourkela administration tells grooms: With COVID-19 positive cases rising rapidly across Odisha, the Rourkela administration has come out with a peculiar order, stating that any groom comi → https://is.gd/yMwONM | 01:50 |
| LjL | nixonix, "province" in italian is similar to english meaning of "county", allowing for various national difference, but roughly speaking... | 01:50 |
| nixonix | anyways, if you wonder swedens mobility graph, when the outbreak was in stockholm city, the whole swedens mobility graph doesnt tell you how those in stockholm city changed their habits | 01:51 |
| LjL | no | 01:51 |
| LjL | but i'm comparing it against the whole US | 01:51 |
| LjL | in the US, too, i expect certain places dipped, and others didn't | 01:51 |
| LjL | and yet, globally, the US dipped more than Sweden did | 01:52 |
| LjL | (though less than Italy or Spain or France) | 01:52 |
| nixonix | yeah but they had large lockdowns, when in sweden their actions were prob mostly local, and not much were done outside of stockholm city at the time | 01:52 |
| LjL | Italy, Spain and France are pretty similar, and their amount of infection was pretty similar, so the metric may be potentially solid | 01:52 |
| LjL | well | 01:52 |
| LjL | i can't install LibreOffice and look at the CSV right now, i'm in the Alps, spreading COVID, with only mobile data :P | 01:53 |
| PlanckWalk | 5G! | 01:53 |
| LjL | not yet | 01:54 |
| LjL | but i do have a glorious ZTE phone | 01:54 |
| PlanckWalk | Heh, I had one of those :) | 01:54 |
| LjL | Axon 7, best speakers in a phone ever, if you want a phone version of a boombox | 01:54 |
| LjL | i don't, but i still like the speaker | 01:54 |
| LjL | s | 01:54 |
| PlanckWalk | I was reading r/Coronavirus (probably a bad idea to start with), including all sorts of explanations for why the recent CFR for US cases is so much lower than March/April | 01:55 |
| PlanckWalk | Have they forgotten already that back then, testing was almost impossible to get? | 01:55 |
| LjL | well is it easy to get now, especially in places like Arizona? | 01:56 |
| PlanckWalk | I mean sure there's a lot of factors, but that has to be the biggest one. | 01:56 |
| PlanckWalk | I don't know about "easy" but it's certainly "easier" | 01:57 |
| LjL | well i remember seeing headlines about them running out of tests or somesuch but they may have just been headlines | 01:59 |
| PlanckWalk | Back then most people even with severe symptoms couldn't get tested unless they came from China or had documented close contact with a previously tested case. | 01:59 |
| PlanckWalk | And even some of those couldn't. | 02:00 |
| LjL | but | 02:00 |
| LjL | %title https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/07/02/886949217/nearly-one-in-four-arizona-coronavirus-tests-positive-now | 02:00 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: From www.npr.org: NPR Choice page | 02:00 |
| LjL | oh gest lost NPR | 02:00 |
| LjL | my point being | 02:00 |
| LjL | when you have a 25% positive rate, yeah, sure, you have an epidemic that much is obvious, but it also tends to mean you aren't testing nearly enough | 02:01 |
| PlanckWalk | I agree with that | 02:01 |
| PlanckWalk | Even where I live having 4% test positivity rate at one stage was a sign of not enough testing. | 02:03 |
| PlanckWalk | 24% is just horrible. | 02:04 |
| PlanckWalk | NY was getting > 40% at one stage, and probably only that low because a large fraction of their tests were on returned travellers with a cold. | 02:05 |
| PlanckWalk | (And false negatives) | 02:05 |
| LjL | PlanckWalk, we also passed 40% and Lombardy hovers *around* 30% or more as its *average*... and that includes negative tests made on recovered people | 02:09 |
| LjL | %cases Lombardy | 02:09 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: In Lombardy, Italy, there have been 94318 confirmed cases (0.9% of the population) and 16691 deaths (17.7% of cases) as of 18 hours ago. 196302 tests were performed (48.0% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 0.3% (assuming testing prevalence) and less than 19.7% (considering only deaths and recoveries).. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Lombardy for time series data. | 02:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: India sees record new cases as Texas warns of overwhelmed hospitals: Iran sees highest daily deaths ; UK government injects £1.57bn into arts and heritage ; Spain puts part of Galicia back into lockdown . Follow the latest updates → https://is.gd/WiinRL | 02:09 |
| LjL | sorry, i meant hovers around 50%, clearly | 02:09 |
| LjL | %cases Italy | 02:10 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: In Italy, there have been 241611 confirmed cases (0.4% of the population) and 34861 deaths (14.4% of cases) as of 8 hours ago. 6.8 million tests were performed (3.6% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 1.6% (assuming testing prevalence) and less than 15.4% (considering only deaths and recoveries).. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Italy for time series data. | 02:10 |
| PlanckWalk | Still around 50% for May/June tests? | 02:10 |
| LjL | nooo | 02:10 |
| PlanckWalk | Oh whew! | 02:10 |
| LjL | i'm not sure i have Lombardy specific figures handy | 02:10 |
| LjL | but the nationwide figures are around 0.3% now | 02:10 |
| LjL | Lombardy is going to be higher but not *insane* higher | 02:10 |
| LjL | also, now part of the positives are found only because they tested positive in the nationwide serology tests | 02:11 |
| LjL | (they aren't automatically considered "positive" of course, but it's clear PCR is going to catch more people this way) | 02:12 |
| LjL | so even if the numbers aren't fully reassuringly low, it could be okay | 02:12 |
| PlanckWalk | It looks like about 5 million tests for Italy in May+June, finding 6500 cases | 02:13 |
| PlanckWalk | (Mostly in May) | 02:13 |
| PlanckWalk | Oops, wrong data :( | 02:14 |
| PlanckWalk | 5M tests finding 33k cases. | 02:14 |
| ryouma | LjL: idk about testing except that offloop showed a drop and this coincided with political stuff. politics has played a strong strong strong role. | 02:16 |
| LjL | PlanckWalk, sounds plausible, the 0.3% i have in mind is from recent days | 02:16 |
| ryouma | at least, it seems to me | 02:16 |
| LjL | PlanckWalk, i have Lombardy's data for today here, https://www.lombardianotizie.online/coronavirus-casi-lombardia/ it says they found 98 positives out of 8772 tests, 20 of which are "weakly positive" (they specify this too to make us feel better lol), and 43 were found as follow-up of the serology survey | 02:18 |
| LjL | so, slightly above 1% for Lombardy today | 02:18 |
| LjL | ryouma, unfortunately though the testing data on Offloop/Covidly are often not quite right... anyway, where do you mean a drop? end of may? | 02:19 |
| LjL | the overall trend in Arizona is still towards more tests, although it's highly variable | 02:20 |
| ryouma | recent, just when i looked, so i might have caught an anomaly, so nm if not true | 02:20 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Reunion: +11 cases (now 547) since a day ago — Pennsylvania, US: +144 cases (now 94305) since 5 hours ago — Togo: +4 cases (now 680) since a day ago — Zimbabwe: +18 cases (now 716) since a day ago | 02:20 |
| tinwhiskers | nixonix: the problem with the graph for Spain was indeed due to a quirk of the graphing library setting the y max when having a large negative value in the dataset. I've just made it to when you decumulate the data it sets any negative values to 0 (since the graph won't display them anyway). | 02:21 |
| LjL | ryouma, i wouldn't look at the last day or two, and i would tick the Smooth box | 02:21 |
| tinwhiskers | However that probably has implications for the rate of increase, doubling time, etc. Not sure what I should do about it. | 02:21 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, i don't suppose you know what the hell is up with the data for Kazakhstan? (I really don't suppose you do, it's the same data both on covidly and legacy, but there's a very crazy spike recently) | 02:22 |
| tinwhiskers | I could override the y max values with my own values instead of letting it handle those automatically | 02:22 |
| tinwhiskers | LjL: I guess the changed the criteria for a positive test or something like that and its a correction. | 02:23 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, largest correction EVER | 02:23 |
| tinwhiskers | the correction of -10,000 by spain is more of a problem | 02:23 |
| LjL | ah well that's pretty large too | 02:23 |
| LjL | but 20000 beats it | 02:23 |
| tinwhiskers | oh, ok. I mean it's more of a problem, not because of the magnitude but because it's negative :-) | 02:24 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, well honestly i'd never even have looked at Kazakhstan if it weren't it came up in the news earlier because it's the first country to reinstate a full lockdown after lifting it | 02:25 |
| tinwhiskers | heh. I had wondered | 02:25 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia live updates: Victoria may advise wearing masks as lockdown continues – latest news → https://is.gd/j7h21z | 02:29 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, how about you just ignore the correction and report higher than official data? :P because really, there's NO way the real data is *lower* than the reported. it's basically just a discontinuity in what could otherwise look like a function. not statistically useful | 02:30 |
| LjL | half serious | 02:31 |
| ryouma | there is some value in just showing the data as they are, negative or not | 02:34 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Kagoshima, Japan: +34 cases (now 85) since 2 days ago — Puerto Rico: +2 deaths (now 155) since 3 days ago — Trinidad and Tobago: +2 cases (now 133) since 7 hours ago — Krasnoyarsk, Russia: +18 deaths (now 164) since 19 hours ago | 02:36 |
| tinwhiskers | I'm glad you're half serious about it because I'm half doing that :-p | 02:39 |
| tinwhiskers | If you decumulate the data it is now ignoring negative values | 02:40 |
| tinwhiskers | but yes, I agree there is value in including the negatives | 02:41 |
| LjL | i hope you catch half a fish! | 02:45 |
| ubLIX[m] | maybe he's fishing for data! | 02:47 |
| LjL | i hope he catches half a data then, which is, in the inner circles, called a datum | 02:48 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Ecuador: +423 cases (now 61958) since 3 hours ago — Libya: +57 cases (now 1046), +5 deaths (now 32) since a day ago — World: +1046 cases (now 11.6 million), +13 deaths (now 536814) since 16 minutes ago — Washington, US: +147 cases (now 36708), +5 deaths (now 1359) since an hour ago | 02:50 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/coronavirus: Toronto hospitals reach new milestone: No covid-19 patients in the ICU (10161 votes) | https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2020/07/04/toronto-hospitals-reach-new-milestone-no-covid-19-patients-in-the-icu.html | https://redd.it/hlr2qp | 02:52 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: India sees record new cases as Texas warns of overwhelmed hospitals: Iran sees highest daily deaths ; UK government injects £1.57bn into arts and heritage ; Spain puts part of Galicia back into lockdown . Follow the latest updates → https://is.gd/WiinRL | 02:58 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus Australia live update: Victoria records 127 new Covid-19 cases as NSW border to close: Border closures announced as Covid-19 cases continue to rise and Melbourne’s ‘hard lockdown’ of public housing towers continues. Follow the latest news → https://is.gd/j7h21z | 03:07 |
| ap4lmtree | what is the difference between a banadana and a handerkiff mask? | 03:15 |
| ubLIX[m] | not much? | 03:16 |
| ryouma | LjL: what was triage like in italy? | 03:18 |
| ryouma | https://www.azmirror.com/2020/07/03/as-covid-19-worsens-az-is-the-first-state-to-enact-crisis-care-standards/ | 03:18 |
| LjL | ryouma, the only official documents i saw were vague and also were never clearly stated to be in force | 03:19 |
| LjL | ryouma, all i know is there were definitely doctors and nurses interviewed on TV in tears saying they had to choose who to intubate and who to do basically nothing to | 03:20 |
| LjL | as well as ministers and other officials saying "uh, we're not aware of any ICU needs not being fulfilled at this time" | 03:20 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: record new cases in India as Australian state of Victoria closes border: New South Wales-Victoria border closed for first time in 100 years; Iran sees highest daily deaths ; Spain puts part of Galicia back into lockdown . Follow the latest updates → https://is.gd/WiinRL | 03:26 |
| ubLIX[m] | i mean, ap4lmtree, you could make a bandana or a handkerchief out of practically any material you like, so the difference.. would be how much of the material you had, i guess. and whether it was large enough to fashion into a shape that will reliably stay in place. thicker/more layers better, etc. are surgical masks and such hard to come by where you are? | 03:32 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Exaggerated risk of transmission of COVID-19 by fomites (81 votes) | https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S1473-3099%2820%2930561-2 | https://redd.it/hltayx | 03:35 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus Australia live update: Victoria records 127 new Covid-19 cases as NSW border to close: NSW and Vic border closure announced as Covid-19 cases continue to rise and Melbourne’s ‘hard’ lockdown of public housing towers continues. Follow the latest news → https://is.gd/j7h21z | 03:46 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Buenos Aires, Argentina: +18045 cases (now 38410), +232 deaths (now 684) since 3 days ago — Karnataka, India: +1925 cases (now 23474), +37 deaths (now 372) since 20 hours ago — Telangana, India: +1590 cases (now 23902), +7 deaths (now 295) since 20 hours ago — Uttar Pradesh, India: +1153 cases (now 27707), +12 deaths (now 785) since 20 hours ago | 03:54 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Bolivia: +1226 cases (now 39297), +56 deaths (now 1434) since a day ago — World: +1227 cases (now 11.6 million), +56 deaths (now 537149) since 39 minutes ago — South Korea: +23 cases (now 13114), +1 deaths (now 284) since 21 hours ago — Fiji: +1 cases (now 19) since 3 days ago | 04:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Hindu: Delhi: With 2,244 fresh virus cases, Delhi’s tally touches 99,444 → https://is.gd/GFcOpK | 04:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus Australia live update: Victoria records 127 new Covid-19 cases as NSW border to close: NSW and Vic border closure announced as Covid-19 cases continue to rise and Melbourne’s ‘hard’ lockdown of public housing towers continues. Follow the latest news → https://is.gd/j7h21z | 04:44 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): Covid2019: Netanyahu sounds alarm over Israel’s new Covid-19 spike, warning ‘we’re in a state of emergency’ → https://is.gd/J6HeO0 | 05:03 |
| LjL | yikes http://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Israel | 05:07 |
| LjL | the first part of that graph until it flattens off loops too much like my country's or many other countries' | 05:08 |
| LjL | and the second too much like these countries' likely future | 05:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus Australia live update: Victoria records 127 new Covid-19 cases as NSW border to close: NSW and Vic border closure announced as Covid-19 cases continue to rise and Melbourne’s ‘hard’ lockdown of public housing towers continues. Follow the latest news → https://is.gd/j7h21z | 05:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Hindu: Collector inspects containment zones in Coimbatore city: District Collector K. Rajamani on Sunday inspected the measures put in place in a few of the COVID-19 containment zones in the city, said a release fr → https://is.gd/Sb7S1K | 05:23 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Bavaria, Germany: +79 cases (now 48744) since an hour ago — Jujuy, Argentina: +46 cases (now 233), +1 deaths (now 6) since an hour ago — World: +334 cases (now 11.6 million) since an hour ago — Belgium: +107 cases (now 62016) since 4 hours ago | 05:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus Australia live update: Victoria records 127 new Covid-19 cases as NSW border to close: NSW and Vic border closure announced as Covid-19 cases continue to rise and Melbourne’s ‘hard’ lockdown of public housing towers continues. Follow the latest news → https://is.gd/j7h21z | 05:32 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Honduras: +1022 cases (now 23943), +10 deaths (now 639) since 22 hours ago — World: +1022 cases (now 11.6 million), +10 deaths (now 537159) since 40 minutes ago | 05:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Jayraj Bachu, founder of South African Hindu political party succumbs to Covid-19 → https://is.gd/UPJ5bc | 05:52 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: record new cases in India as Australian state of Victoria closes border → https://is.gd/WiinRL | 06:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: US House Speaker Philip Gunn tests positive for coronavirus → https://is.gd/RRmJIK | 06:11 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Hindu: National: Coronavirus India lockdown Day 104 live updates | Thiruvananthapuram placed under 7-day triple lockdown → https://is.gd/4nzfGP | 06:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia live updates: Victoria records 127 new Covid-19 cases and two deaths as NSW border to close → https://is.gd/j7h21z | 06:31 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +5063 cases (now 11.6 million), +55 deaths (now 537214) since an hour ago — Pakistan: +3344 cases (now 231818), +50 deaths (now 4762) since 23 hours ago — Kazakhstan: +1403 cases (now 48574) since 23 hours ago — Kyrgyzstan: +314 cases (now 7691), +4 deaths (now 92) since 23 hours ago | 06:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Hindu: National: Coronavirus India lockdown Day 104 live updates | Thiruvananthapuram placed under 7-day triple lockdown → https://is.gd/4nzfGP | 07:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: record new cases in India as Australian state of Victoria closes border → https://is.gd/WiinRL | 07:09 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Kosovo: +292 cases (now 3356), +11 deaths (now 66) since 3 days ago — World: +2056 cases (now 11.6 million), +143 deaths (now 537357) since 36 minutes ago — Ukraine: +840 cases (now 49468), +16 deaths (now 1265) since 18 hours ago — Japan: +146 cases (now 19668) since 5 hours ago | 07:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia updates: Victoria records 127 new Covid-19 cases and two deaths as NSW border to close – live news → https://is.gd/j7h21z | 07:19 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Sindh, Pakistan: +3807 cases (now 94528), +67 deaths (now 1526) since a day ago — Distrito Federal, Brazil: +2094 cases (now 57854), +28 deaths (now 699) since a day ago — Pernambuco, Brazil: +1672 cases (now 65129), +27 deaths (now 5143) since a day ago — Punjab, Pakistan: +1666 cases (now 81963), +40 deaths (now 1884) since a day ago | 07:20 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Perspective: Vitamin D deficiency and COVID‐19 severity – plausibly linked by latitude, ethnicity, impacts on cytokines, ACE2, and thrombosis (R1) (83 votes) | https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/joim.13149 | https://redd.it/hls9sx | 07:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Hindu: National: Coronavirus India lockdown Day 104 live updates | 10,100-bed capacity care centre set up in Bengaluru → https://is.gd/4nzfGP | 07:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: India cases third-highest globally as Australian state of Victoria closes border → https://is.gd/WiinRL | 07:48 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/coronavirus: Nick Cordero, Standout Actor in Broadway Musicals, Dies of COVID-19 Complications at 41 (10018 votes) | https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/nick-cordero-dead-bullets-broadway-waitress-actor-was-41-1301841 | https://redd.it/hly79y | 08:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia updates: Victoria records 127 new Covid-19 cases and two deaths as NSW border to close – live news → https://is.gd/j7h21z | 08:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Coronavirus Global Updates, 06 July: Australia to close state borders; New York enters Phase 3 of reopening → https://is.gd/YaRyaq | 08:17 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia updates: Victoria records 127 new Covid-19 cases and two deaths as NSW border to close – live news → https://is.gd/j7h21z | 08:27 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +1098 cases (now 11.6 million), +52 deaths (now 537409) since 2 hours ago — India: +397 cases (now 698233), +3 deaths (now 19703) since 11 hours ago — Armenia: +330 cases (now 28936), +7 deaths (now 491) since 22 hours ago — Afghanistan: +239 cases (now 33190), +34 deaths (now 898) since a day ago | 09:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Food & Wine: A COVID survivor’s recipe for an immunity-boosting kadha that helped her → https://is.gd/QP75h1 | 09:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia updates: Victoria records 127 new Covid-19 cases and two deaths as NSW border to close – live news → https://is.gd/j7h21z | 09:25 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Hindu: Chennai: With lockdown restrictions relaxed, Chennai limps back to normalcy → https://is.gd/9PUn7n | 09:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia updates: Morrison backs fines for refusing Covid-19 testing as NSW border to close – live news → https://is.gd/j7h21z | 09:44 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Hindu: Mumbai: COVID-19: Pune reports highest overnight spike of 300 new cases → https://is.gd/RzYrW8 | 09:54 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: theatre performances 'some way off', says Dowden, after £1.5bn pledged for arts → https://is.gd/hBE0hw | 10:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Egypt arrests doctors, silences critics over virus outbreak → https://is.gd/VwwQ7t | 10:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: UK finance minister Rishi Sunak plans tax cuts to boost Covid recovery → https://is.gd/0skVVA | 10:42 |
| Jigsy | %cases UK | 10:44 |
| Brainstorm | Jigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 285416 confirmed cases (0.4% of the population) and 44220 deaths (15.5% of cases) as of 17 hours ago. 10.5 million tests were performed (2.7% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data. | 10:44 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +7960 cases (now 11.6 million), +143 deaths (now 537552) since an hour ago — Russia: +6611 cases (now 687862), +135 deaths (now 10296) since 23 hours ago — Namibia: +73 cases (now 485) since 19 hours ago — India: +584 cases (now 698817), +4 deaths (now 19707) since an hour ago | 10:51 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: theatre performances 'some way off', says Dowden, after £1.5bn pledged for arts → https://is.gd/hBE0hw | 10:52 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Mona Lisa back at work, visitors limited, as Louvre Museum reopens → https://is.gd/ouASaL | 11:31 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +7613 cases (now 11.6 million), +129 deaths (now 537681) since 47 minutes ago — Bangladesh: +3201 cases (now 165618), +44 deaths (now 2096) since 23 hours ago — Philippines: +2079 cases (now 46333), +6 deaths (now 1303) since 23 hours ago — Malawi: +129 cases (now 1742), +2 deaths (now 19) since a day ago | 11:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Destination of the week: Mona Lisa back at work, visitors limited, as Louvre reopens → https://is.gd/PKT2c2 | 11:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from BMJ: Government unveils roadmap for making UK a “science superpower”: The government has published a plan for strengthening science, research, and innovation to help the economy and society recover from covid-19 and to “build a greener, healthier and more resilient... → https://is.gd/G9qMzt | 11:50 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: treatment delays could lead to up to 35,000 excess deaths from cancer, research suggests → https://is.gd/hBE0hw | 12:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus live news: India cases third-highest globally as Australian state of Victoria closes border: India overtakes Russia with third-highest number of cases ; Peru cases pass 300,000 ; Iran sees highest daily deaths ; Spain puts part of Galicia back into lockdown → https://is.gd/WiinRL | 12:09 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +612 cases (now 11.6 million), +19 deaths (now 537700) since 50 minutes ago — El Salvador: +250 cases (now 8027) since 3 hours ago — Romania: +250 cases (now 29223), +18 deaths (now 1768) since a day ago — Austria: +85 cases (now 18365) since a day ago | 12:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Hundreds of scientists reportedly claim WHO is downplaying risk of airborne spread of coronavirus → https://is.gd/RRKHj2 | 12:29 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Iran: +2613 cases (now 243051), +160 deaths (now 11731) since 23 hours ago — Oman: +1557 cases (now 47735), +5 deaths (now 218) since a day ago — World: +4217 cases (now 11.6 million), +165 deaths (now 537865) since 20 minutes ago — Switzerland: +47 cases (now 32315) since 22 hours ago | 12:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: What is bubonic plague?: Authorities in China have stepped up precautions after a reports of a suspected -case. → https://is.gd/GCNXDA | 12:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia updates: Morrison backs fines for refusing Covid-19 testing as NSW/Victoria border to close – live news → https://is.gd/j7h21z | 12:48 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Central Java, Indonesia: +127 cases (now 4738), +15 deaths (now 215) since 9 hours ago | 12:51 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: India cases third-highest globally as Australian state of Victoria closes border → https://is.gd/WiinRL | 12:58 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +1550 cases (now 11.6 million), +9 deaths (now 537874) since 32 minutes ago — India: +1322 cases (now 700724), +7 deaths (now 19714) since an hour ago — Vietnam: +14 cases (now 369) since 3 days ago — Nepal: +180 cases (now 15964), +1 deaths (now 35) since a day ago | 13:06 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Madagascar: +309 cases (now 3250), +1 deaths (now 33) since a day ago — World: +309 cases (now 11.6 million), +1 deaths (now 537875) since 18 minutes ago | 13:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Hindu: ASI-protected monuments in State reopen: Locals stage protest in Somanathapura, do not want visitors till COVID-19 pandemic subsides → https://is.gd/AJkGgR | 13:27 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: India cases third-highest globally; flights between Greece and Britain to fully resume → https://is.gd/WiinRL | 13:46 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Hindu: Karnataka: CPCRI scientists visit arecanut plantations to study reasons for nut dropping → https://is.gd/JLvl1I | 14:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: India cases third-highest globally; flights between Greece and Britain to fully resume → https://is.gd/WiinRL | 14:15 |
| f8122dac91[m] | %cases US | 14:31 |
| Brainstorm | f8122dac91[m]: In US, there have been 3.0 million confirmed cases (0.9% of the population) and 132571 deaths (4.4% of cases) as of 2 hours ago. 37.6 million tests were performed (7.9% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 0.5% (assuming testing prevalence) and less than 9.3% (considering only deaths and recoveries).. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 14:31 |
| f8122dac91[m] | %cases south korea | 14:32 |
| Brainstorm | f8122dac91[m]: Sorry, south korea not found. Either there aren't cases, or it's under a different name. | 14:32 |
| f8122dac91[m] | %cases | 14:33 |
| Brainstorm | f8122dac91[m]: In World, there have been 11.6 million confirmed cases (0.2% of the population) and 537899 deaths (4.6% of cases) as of 14 minutes ago. 263.6 million tests were performed (4.4% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 0.2% (assuming testing prevalence) and less than 7.8% (considering only deaths and recoveries).. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=World for time series data. | 14:33 |
| f8122dac91[m] | %cases korea | 14:33 |
| Brainstorm | f8122dac91[m]: In Jeju, South Korea, there have been 19 confirmed cases (0.0% of the population) and 0 deaths (0.0% of cases) as of 3 days ago. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Jeju for time series data. | 14:33 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Puerto Rico, US: +669 cases (now 8585) since a day ago — World: +4524 cases (now 11.7 million), +64 deaths (now 537939) since an hour ago — US: +2335 cases (now 3.0 million), +39 deaths (now 132610) since 2 hours ago — California, US: +1609 cases (now 264832), +36 deaths (now 6373) since 11 hours ago | 14:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: The U.S. needs a unified approach to tackle rising coronavirus cases, infectious disease expert says: Over the Fourth of July holiday weekend, Florida and Texas faced a surge of cases, leaving state and local governments struggling to gain the upper hand in containment efforts. → https://is.gd/JKRYBO | 14:44 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia updates: Q+A panel discuss Melbourne lockdown as NSW/Victoria border to close – live news → https://is.gd/j7h21z | 15:03 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Is there an airborne component to the transmission of COVID-19?: a quantitative analysis study (80 votes) | https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.22.20109991v2 | https://redd.it/hlxeue | 15:04 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Uzbekistan: +141 cases (now 10284), +1 deaths (now 36) since 6 hours ago — World: +219 cases (now 11.7 million), +6 deaths (now 537945) since 33 minutes ago — North Macedonia: +78 cases (now 7124), +5 deaths (now 346) since 22 hours ago | 15:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from Scientific American: The Biggest Psychological Experiment in History Is Running Now: Bernell Grier, who leads a community development corporation in Brooklyn, N.Y., is helping black people affected by the pandemic. → https://is.gd/9kmAnv | 15:13 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +6378 cases (now 11.7 million), +168 deaths (now 538113) since 28 minutes ago — India: +3883 cases (now 704607), +68 deaths (now 19782) since 2 hours ago — Bosnia and Herz.: +248 cases (now 5210), +4 deaths (now 195) since 2 days ago — Iraq: +1796 cases (now 62275), +94 deaths (now 2567) since 22 hours ago | 15:22 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Hundreds of scientists reportedly claim WHO is downplaying risk of airborne spread of coronavirus → https://is.gd/RRKHj2 | 15:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: India cases third-highest globally; flights between Greece and Britain to fully resume → https://is.gd/WiinRL | 15:32 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +254 cases (now 11.7 million), +6 deaths (now 538119) since 20 minutes ago — Portugal: +232 cases (now 44129), +6 deaths (now 1620) since 22 hours ago — Hong Kong: +17 cases (now 1286) since a day ago — Niger: +5 cases (now 1093) since a day ago | 15:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: No 10 says it has given up attempt to provide daily figure for number of people tested for Covid → https://is.gd/hBE0hw | 15:52 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Bosnia and Herz.: +248 cases (now 5458), +4 deaths (now 199) since 32 minutes ago — Channel Islands: +6 cases (now 577) since 2 days ago — Argentina: +16 deaths (now 1523) since 14 hours ago — Dem. Rep. Congo: +10 cases (now 7432) since an hour ago | 15:52 |
| Urchin[emacs] | %cases croatia | 15:55 |
| Brainstorm | Urchin[emacs]: In Croatia, there have been 3220 confirmed cases (0.1% of the population) and 113 deaths (3.5% of cases) as of an hour ago. 85997 tests were performed (3.7% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Croatia for time series data. | 15:55 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: India cases third-highest globally; Israel reimposes restrictions after spike in infections → https://is.gd/WiinRL | 16:01 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Saudi Arabia: +4207 cases (now 213716), +52 deaths (now 1968) since a day ago — World: +5487 cases (now 11.7 million), +75 deaths (now 538210) since 20 minutes ago — India: +554 cases (now 705161), +11 deaths (now 19793) since 50 minutes ago — Azerbaijan: +513 cases (now 20837), +8 deaths (now 258) since 22 hours ago | 16:07 |
| razorbeamz | %cases <Japan> | 16:08 |
| Brainstorm | razorbeamz: In World, there have been 11.7 million confirmed cases (0.2% of the population) and 538210 deaths (4.6% of cases) as of 7 minutes ago. 263.3 million tests were performed (4.4% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 0.2% (assuming testing prevalence) and less than 7.8% (considering only deaths and recoveries).. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=World for time series data. | 16:08 |
| razorbeamz | %cases Japan | 16:09 |
| Brainstorm | razorbeamz: In Japan, there have been 19668 confirmed cases (0.0% of the population) and 977 deaths (5.0% of cases) as of 9 hours ago. 637956 tests were performed (3.1% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Japan for time series data. | 16:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): More than 70 countries at risk of running out of HIV drugs due to coronavirus pandemic, WHO says → https://is.gd/2mypPV | 16:11 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Hindu: Other States: COVID-19: All data is available on our website, says Mamata govt. → https://is.gd/P10xPu | 16:21 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for East Java, Indonesia: +308 cases (now 14321), +33 deaths (now 1053) since 12 hours ago — US: +293 cases (now 3.0 million), +3 deaths (now 132613) since an hour ago — World: +293 cases (now 11.7 million), +3 deaths (now 538213) since 21 minutes ago — Maryland, US: +272 cases (now 69904), +3 deaths (now 3246) since 22 hours ago | 16:22 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Prevalence of SARS-CoV-2 in Spain (ENE-COVID): a nationwide, population-based seroepidemiological study (82 votes) | https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31483-5/fulltext | https://redd.it/hm64lw | 16:35 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +35 cases (now 11.7 million), +5 deaths (now 538218) since 21 minutes ago — US: +33 cases (now 3.0 million), +2 deaths (now 132615) since 21 minutes ago — Mauritius: +1 cases (now 342) since 3 days ago — Moldova: +3 deaths (now 588) since 23 hours ago | 16:37 |
| LjL | nixonix, tinwhiskers, de-facto (no offense to those i don't highlight, just the people who usually bring up studies! :P) the above Spanish study should be a proper nationwide similar to the Italian one which we'll probably see in 2030 or so if i know Italy | 16:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: India cases third-highest globally; Israel reimposes restrictions after spike in infections → https://is.gd/WiinRL | 16:40 |
| nixonix | nice. this is the same that we got some results a few weeks ago already? | 16:42 |
| nixonix | Seroprevalence was 5·0% (95% CI 4·7–5·4) by the point-of-care test and 4·6% (4·3–5·0) by immunoassay, with a specificity–sensitivity range of 3·7% (3·3–4·0; both tests positive) to 6·2% (5·8–6·6; either test positive), with no differences by sex and lower seroprevalence in children younger than 10 years (<3·1% by the point-of-care test). There was substantial geographical variability, with higher prevalence around | 16:43 |
| nixonix | Madrid (>10%) and lower in coastal areas (<3%) | 16:43 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: No 10 gives up effort to provide daily figure for people tested; fifth of kits issued are wasted → https://is.gd/hBE0hw | 16:50 |
| LjL | nixonix, i don't remember about results from a few weeks ago | 16:54 |
| LjL | also interesting/scary https://momo.isciii.es/public/momo/dashboard/momo_dashboard.html | 16:55 |
| LjL | interesting there's more excess mortality in women than men | 16:55 |
| LjL | but holy crap, this is Spain-wide, not specific to Madrid or anything | 16:55 |
| LjL | %cases spain | 16:56 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: In Spain, there have been 297625 confirmed cases (0.6% of the population) and 28385 deaths (9.5% of cases) as of 2 days ago. 5.4 million tests were performed (5.5% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Spain for time series data. | 16:56 |
| nixonix | ok ill have a look on the paper a bit later, but they published ab survey results for spain a few weeks ago, and i used them to estimate IFR for madrid and couple other high prevalence areas | 16:59 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Oxygen and mortality in COVID-19 pneumonia: a comparative analysis of supplemental oxygen policies and health outcomes across 26 countries. (82 votes) | https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.03.20145763v1 | https://redd.it/hlq7ve | 16:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from https://covid19.specops.network *: ljl-covid: Add important Spain seroprevalence study → https://is.gd/pCsfWy | 16:59 |
| nixonix | interesting (oxygen policies). too bad ive lost my faith for petty much everything else than randomized controlled trials | 17:00 |
| nixonix | pR*etty | 17:01 |
| LjL | nixonix, well in this study people on reddit were saying the IFR would turn out to be around 1%, or 2% if you look at excess mortality instead of just the recorded deaths | 17:01 |
| nixonix | Results Of the 26 nations included, 15 had employed conservative oxygen strategies to manage COVID-19 pneumonia. Of them, Belgium, France, USA, Canada, China, Germany, Mexico, Spain, Sweden and the UK guidelines advised commencing oxygen when oxygen saturations (SpO2) fell to 91% or less. Target SpO2 ranged from 92% to 95% in the other 16 nations | 17:02 |
| LjL | i had 91% last night lol ;( | 17:02 |
| nixonix | forgot to order oximeter. are they any good? how aboyt if i select a bith more expensive model, or better to order two middle price models for comparison? | 17:03 |
| nixonix | maybe ill tattoo the target percentage in my wrist, so they dont put me in ventilator too easily | 17:05 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +14144 cases (now 11.7 million), +327 deaths (now 538545) since 36 minutes ago — India: +7759 cases (now 712920), +280 deaths (now 20073) since an hour ago — US: +6382 cases (now 3.0 million), +47 deaths (now 132662) since 36 minutes ago — Florida, US: +6336 cases (now 206447), +46 deaths (now 3778) since 19 hours ago | 17:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from https://covid19.specops.network *: ljl-covid: Add Spain MoMo data together with Italy data that were already in the… → https://is.gd/j9vvbw | 17:09 |
| LjL | nixonix, i don't know, i wanted to buy a second oximeter to determine whether the one i have is at all reliable, but their prices spiked and so i didn't. but now they're sort of back to their normal prices, you can get one for about €18 | 17:11 |
| LjL | nixonix, however what i can say is that my oximeter previously had em at 98% or 99% much of the time, although there were sometimes random-looking dips down to 95%. now it's more like i'm around 95% most of the time, sometimes but very rarely it goes up to 98% (97% more likely), and *never* 99% | 17:11 |
| LjL | so it's measuring some change | 17:12 |
| LjL | nixonix, i haven't bought another one yet even though the prices have gone down because there was one, for a €23-ish price, that had an 8-hour memory and showed max, min, average and simple graphs on its own display, which i kinda wanted... the one i have was a bit more expensive, €30-ish, because it has USB and can send 24h worth of data to the computer | 17:12 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: Immunity to the coronavirus is 'fragile' and 'short lived,' immunologist warns: Danny Altmann, professor of immunology at Imperial College London, said it was not a "safe bet" to rely on immunity to Covid-19 as a strategy for coping with the pandemic. → https://is.gd/JhC7MS | 17:19 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +6539 cases (now 11.7 million), +82 deaths (now 538627) since 22 minutes ago — Maharashtra, India: +5368 cases (now 211987), +204 deaths (now 9026) since 13 hours ago — Tamil Nadu, India: +3827 cases (now 114978), +61 deaths (now 1571) since 13 hours ago — US: +3422 cases (now 3.0 million), +2 deaths (now 132664) since 22 minutes ago | 17:22 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Andhra Pradesh, India: +1322 cases (now 20019), +7 deaths (now 239) since 13 hours ago — World: +5756 cases (now 11.7 million), +36 deaths (now 538663) since 23 minutes ago — US: +4442 cases (now 3.0 million), +1 deaths (now 132665) since 23 minutes ago — Madhya Pradesh, India: +354 cases (now 15284), +9 deaths (now 617) since 13 hours ago | 17:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: US death toll surpasses 130,000; India's cases third-highest in world → https://is.gd/WiinRL | 17:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: No 10 gives up effort to provide daily figure for people tested; fifth of kits issued are wasted → https://is.gd/hBE0hw | 17:48 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): Covid2019: As the world struggles to contain the coronavirus pandemic, China is clamping down on the sale of wildlife for human consumption amid concerns about another outbreak of a zoonotic disease. → https://is.gd/Zj6s7L | 17:57 |
| Jigsy | >UK coronavirus live: No 10 gives up effort to provide daily figure for people tested; fifth of kits issued are wasted | 17:59 |
| Jigsy | I feel safer already... | 17:59 |
| nixonix | they have this kind of problem in uk too? https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/05/cdc-and-states-are-misreporting-covid-19-test-data-pennsylvania-georgia-texas/611935/ | 18:00 |
| nixonix | %title | 18:00 |
| Brainstorm | nixonix: From www.theatlantic.com: The CDC and States Are Misreporting COVID-19 Test Data - The Atlantic | 18:00 |
| Jigsy | nixonix: Probably. | 18:01 |
| Haley[mt][m] | !cases France | 18:07 |
| CovBot | In France there have been a total of 195,535 cases as of 2020-07-06 15:46:00 UTC. Of these 88,582 (45.3%) are still sick or may have recovered without being recorded, 77,060 (39.4%) have definitely recovered and 29,893 (15.3%) have died. | 18:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Trump demands Nascar driver Bubba Wallace apologize over noose incident – live: Trump also seems to complain about Confederate flag ban Supreme court rules against ‘faithless electors’ Frederick Douglass statue torn down Summer Taylor honored for ‘standing up for black lives’ Swing states may be up for grabs as Covid-19 [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/7lxxzt | 18:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): CoronaVirusInfo: Could the Oxford University/AstraZeneca COVID-19 Vaccine End the Pandemic? (A discussion with sources) → https://is.gd/6M8fvQ | 18:17 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/coronavirus: No, the Americans With Disabilities Act doesn't say shop owners have to let maskless people into their stores (10104 votes) | https://respectfulinsolence.com/2020/07/06/americans-with-disabilities-act-mask-lie/ | https://redd.it/hm13js | 18:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): More than 70 countries at risk of running out of HIV drugs due to coronavirus pandemic, WHO says → https://is.gd/2mypPV | 18:26 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: Johnson criticised after claiming care homes did not follow procedures during Covid crisis → https://is.gd/hBE0hw | 18:36 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +9737 cases (now 11.7 million), +123 deaths (now 538786) since an hour ago — India: +4857 cases (now 718872), +71 deaths (now 20171) since an hour ago — Algeria: +463 cases (now 16404), +7 deaths (now 959) since a day ago — US: +2995 cases (now 3.0 million), +13 deaths (now 132678) since an hour ago | 18:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from Gazzetta Ufficiale italiana: ISTITUTO NAZIONALE PER L'ASSICURAZIONE CONTRO GLI INFORTUNI SUL LAVORO - COMUNICATO: Avviso pubblico ISI Agricoltura 2019-2020 - Incentivi alle impreseper la realizzazione di interventi in materia di salute e sicurezzasul lavoro. (20A03481) → https://is.gd/Hxh7ZE | 18:45 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +1961 cases (now 11.7 million), +8 deaths (now 538794) since 18 minutes ago — US: +791 cases (now 3.0 million), +4 deaths (now 132682) since 18 minutes ago — Israel: +587 cases (now 30749), +2 deaths (now 334) since 8 hours ago — India: +529 cases (now 719401), +2 deaths (now 20173) since 18 minutes ago | 18:52 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: COVID-19 Relies on Cell’s ‘Master Regulators’ for Survival (84 votes) | https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/417936/covid-19-relies-cells-master-regulators-survival | https://redd.it/hm761w | 18:54 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: Immunity to the coronavirus is 'fragile' and 'short-lived,' immunologist warns: Danny Altmann, professor of immunology at Imperial College London, said it was not a "safe bet" to rely on immunity to Covid-19 as a strategy for coping with the pandemic. → https://is.gd/JhC7MS | 18:55 |
| pyna | welp old friend of the family, that bought me my first computer, died of covid in florida | 19:00 |
| LjL | :( | 19:00 |
| pyna | used to love that tandy 500 HX despite the fact is only has 512k and all the cool games needed 640k | 19:01 |
| nixonix | In conclusion, specific IgG Ab to SARS-CoV eventually vanish in most SARS patients. Peripheral memory B cell responses are undetectable in all the patients. However, quite a portion of the patients maintain T cell memory even 6 y postinfection. Whether the T cell anamnestic response is adequate to protect a person from reinfection requires further investigation | 19:14 |
| nixonix | that was from that sars-1 paper 2011 ^ | 19:14 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: NY Gov. Cuomo says President Donald Trump is 'enabling' the coronavirus pandemic: "Do one simple thing: Acknowledge to the American people that Covid exists. It is a major problem," Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Monday. → https://is.gd/Xo8KlF | 19:15 |
| nixonix | its a bit confusing with those different t-cells and their functioning, especially when the knowledge of them has increased and older papers might not have all that information yet. theres different helper t-cells (that express cd4 protein, so they are CD4+ cells), some of them memory t-cells, and there are different types of memory t-cells also (if this went wrong, somebody correct me) | 19:20 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +10521 cases (now 11.7 million), +222 deaths (now 539016) since 36 minutes ago — Brazil: +8766 cases (now 1.6 million), +220 deaths (now 65120) since 17 hours ago — Germany: +237 cases (now 197888) since 3 hours ago — US: +1469 cases (now 3.0 million), +2 deaths (now 132684) since 36 minutes ago | 19:23 |
| nixonix | damn those were supposed to be continuation to another chan... | 19:23 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/coronavirus: Trudeau turns down White House invitation amid pandemic (10119 votes) | https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/trudeau-turns-white-house-invitation-amid-pandemic-71630584 | https://redd.it/hm9an7 | 19:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Hindu: Coronavirus | Final-year examinations in universities will be conducted by September-end: The announcement has put to rest speculations that the exams for final-year students may be cancelled in view of the COVID-19 situation → https://is.gd/N20ykj | 19:34 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +1294 cases (now 11.7 million), +21 deaths (now 539037) since 24 minutes ago — Turkey: +1086 cases (now 206844), +16 deaths (now 5241) since a day ago — Somalia: +51 cases (now 3048) since 18 hours ago — Lesotho: +12 cases (now 91) since a day ago | 19:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: NY Gov. Cuomo says President Donald Trump is 'enabling' the coronavirus pandemic: "Do one simple thing: Acknowledge to the American people that Covid exists. It is a major problem," Gov. Andrew Cuomo said in challenging Trump. → https://is.gd/Xo8KlF | 19:44 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Food & drink industry: High street spending doubles on Saturday after easing of English lockdown → https://is.gd/qNxKoq | 19:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): U.S. coronavirus response still crippled by lack of testing, Dr. Scott Gottlieb says → https://is.gd/OKpzV6 | 20:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Watch live: New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo holds a press conference on the coronavirus outbreak → https://is.gd/uYYKRo | 20:22 |
| Brainstorm | New from Ars Technica: Cars: F1 2020: Race in an alternate universe where there is no COVID-19 → https://is.gd/WR8b8n | 20:32 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Zurich, Switzerland: +388 cases (now 4134) since 3 days ago — World: +2236 cases (now 11.7 million), +39 deaths (now 539076) since an hour ago — US: +1470 cases (now 3.0 million), +27 deaths (now 132711) since an hour ago — Ohio, US: +786 cases (now 57980), +7 deaths (now 2942) since 23 hours ago | 20:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Hindu: GCC must submit data on deaths by July 15: Centre stresses need for consistency of data on COVID-19 mortality → https://is.gd/TkcJP3 | 20:51 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +2827 cases (now 11.7 million), +16 deaths (now 539092) since 25 minutes ago — US: +1860 cases (now 3.0 million), +11 deaths (now 132722) since 25 minutes ago — South Carolina, US: +1533 cases (now 46380), +7 deaths (now 827) since a day ago — India: +898 cases (now 720346) since 25 minutes ago | 20:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Yorkshire: Bakery known for anti-Tory slogans appears in government ad campaign → https://is.gd/wjp7Fa | 21:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Hindu: National: Coronavirus | Maharashtra case tally surges past 2.10 lakh mark → https://is.gd/RS7gHN | 21:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: NY Gov. Cuomo says President Donald Trump is 'enabling' the coronavirus pandemic: "Do one simple thing: Acknowledge to the American people that Covid exists. It is a major problem," Gov. Andrew Cuomo said in challenging Trump. → https://is.gd/Xo8KlF | 21:20 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +5279 cases (now 11.7 million), +73 deaths (now 539165) since 49 minutes ago — US: +3315 cases (now 3.0 million), +31 deaths (now 132753) since 49 minutes ago — Georgia (US), US: +1548 cases (now 97064), +18 deaths (now 2878) since a day ago — Spain: +1244 cases (now 298869), +3 deaths (now 28388) since 2 days ago | 21:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: Immunity to the coronavirus is 'fragile' and 'short-lived,' immunologist warns: Danny Altmann, professor of immunology at Imperial College London, said it was not a "safe bet" to rely on immunity to Covid-19 as a strategy for coping with the pandemic. → https://is.gd/JhC7MS | 21:49 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +480 cases (now 11.7 million), +42 deaths (now 539207) since 20 minutes ago — Ecuador: +422 cases (now 62380), +40 deaths (now 4821) since 19 hours ago — Manabi, Ecuador: +73 cases (now 4720) since 18 hours ago — Pichincha, Ecuador: +70 cases (now 8994), +7 deaths (now 556) since 18 hours ago | 21:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Dr. Anthony Fauci says the average age of U.S. coronavirus patients has dropped by 15 years as Sun Belt states gets hit → https://is.gd/kj4G2z | 21:59 |
| tinwhiskers | LjL: good lancet paper on Spain. Nice to see someone finally selecting a random sample. | 22:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: US death toll surpasses 130,000; India's cases third-highest in world → https://is.gd/WiinRL | 22:18 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, ours will be much better though. and it may be published just in time for SARS-COV-3 | 22:20 |
| ryouma | didn't germany do one or are you talking pcr | 22:20 |
| LjL | no i'm talking antibodies. i'm not aware of germany doing a countrywide random sampling | 22:20 |
| ryouma | i thought they did a big one at least | 22:22 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Pennsylvania, US: +636 cases (now 95073) since 3 hours ago — World: +2780 cases (now 11.7 million), +84 deaths (now 539291) since 38 minutes ago — US: +1597 cases (now 3.0 million), +4 deaths (now 132757) since 50 minutes ago — Egypt: +969 cases (now 76222), +79 deaths (now 3422) since 23 hours ago | 22:23 |
| LjL | second time i see and realize that it's the WHO that claims 1m is the "safe distance", not just Italy's government | 22:25 |
| LjL | but whenever i mention Italy's 1m rule to people whose countries have a 2m rule they say that's crazy | 22:25 |
| LjL | reading https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/06/coronavirus-scientists-claim-who-downplaying-risk-of-airborne-spread.html right now, but i read it yesterday on wikipedia as well | 22:25 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Twin threats in Arizona as wildfires spread during pandemic: Residents of the Navajo Nation and beyond face flames and smoke, heightening danger in area hit hard by Covid-19 → https://is.gd/hknBd8 | 22:28 |
| nixonix | 2m is crazy. we dont come closer than that even when shaking hands (pre-epidemic), that would be rude. my mother tested how many meters droplets can fly when coughed, i think she said something like 3 meters or so | 22:34 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Karnataka, India: +1843 cases (now 25317), +30 deaths (now 402) since 18 hours ago — Telangana, India: +1831 cases (now 25733), +11 deaths (now 306) since 18 hours ago — Kentucky, US: +776 cases (now 17152), +8 deaths (now 593) since 3 days ago — Connecticut, US: +259 cases (now 46976), +3 deaths (now 4338) since 3 days ago | 22:38 |
| LjL | nixonix, lol, i don't think my arm is a meter long | 22:40 |
| ryouma | finns stick their arms outside davinci's circle | 22:41 |
| ryouma | the sudden apparent (probably not signiifcant as on rhs) drop in testing shows up clearly on this graph with smoothing on but not with smoothing off http://www.offloop.net/covid19/?default=New%20York;Arizona;Italy;Hubei;Sweden&byPopulation=yes&cumulative=no&smooth=yes&miscType=Rate&miscPeriod=7&miscSource=Deaths | 22:45 |
| ryouma | um not now | 22:46 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: US death toll surpasses 130,000; India's cases third-highest in world → https://is.gd/WiinRL | 22:47 |
| nixonix | LjL: what do you mean? turn your shoulders, reach and have support from wall or door handle | 22:49 |
| LjL | nixonix, not sure what *you* mean now but i get 70cm from the back of my shoulder to my hand at most, with some stretching | 22:51 |
| LjL | maybe finns are so big they need to have a commensurately big personal space | 22:51 |
| LjL | in which case sadly i couldn't *not* be rude in finland if i were forced in the unfortunate situation of having to shake someone's hand | 22:52 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +2177 cases (now 11.7 million), +3 deaths (now 539315) since 19 minutes ago — US: +2173 cases (now 3.0 million), +2 deaths (now 132780) since 19 minutes ago — California, US: +1556 cases (now 266756) since 3 hours ago — Texas, US: +617 cases (now 202519), +2 deaths (now 2679) since 35 minutes ago | 22:53 |
| nixonix | well you can pretend you didnt see the offered hand, and just walk past. its more common than handshakes anyway | 22:54 |
| ubLIX[m] | ghosting people trying to shake your hand is more common than actual handshaking? | 22:56 |
| ubLIX[m] | lmao | 22:57 |
| LjL | ubLIX[m], only if you have less than 1m arms though | 23:18 |
| ubLIX[m] | i took it that this was a norm, pre-pandemic, though (which i find believable, after reading about Finland, but still hysterically funny) | 23:22 |
| ryouma | what did you read? | 23:23 |
| ryouma | walk past? you shake hands while walking past? | 23:23 |
| ryouma | something sounds fishy here | 23:23 |
| LjL | whatever you read about finland i hope you kept the book at least 1m away from your face | 23:24 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +1607 cases (now 11.7 million), +6 deaths (now 539321) since 35 minutes ago — US: +1133 cases (now 3.0 million), +4 deaths (now 132784) since 35 minutes ago — Texas, US: +980 cases (now 203499), +4 deaths (now 2683) since 35 minutes ago — Bahrain: +454 cases (now 29821) since 10 hours ago | 23:24 |
| ubLIX[m] | The Almost Nearly Perfect People - Behind the myth of the Scandinavian Utopia by Michael Booth | 23:24 |
| ubLIX[m] | contra the subtitle, the book is an Ode to Scandinavia | 23:25 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Dr. Anthony Fauci says the average age of U.S. coronavirus patients has dropped by 15 years as Sun Belt states gets hit → https://is.gd/kj4G2z | 23:26 |
| ryouma | except finland is not in scandinavia (then again what do i know) | 23:27 |
| ubLIX[m] | well, at least one Author disagrees with you | 23:28 |
| ryouma | now i am getting confused. but if you thinkt hat is going to confuse me more than the venn diagram of jurisdicitonal units in the general uk area, you're mistaken! | 23:34 |
| nixonix | do you include northern ireland in that area? | 23:36 |
| ryouma | vaguely uncertain if it is part of gb so sure | 23:37 |
| ryouma | but you get to some islands like isle of man and distant pacific thingies and australia :) and it gets more confusing | 23:37 |
| nixonix | didnt you say uk? | 23:38 |
| ryouma | uk semantic area | 23:38 |
| nixonix | did that include ni? | 23:38 |
| ryouma | what other term does one uyse to describe the enti9re venn diagram? | 23:38 |
| ryouma | yes | 23:38 |
| nixonix | and channel islands? | 23:38 |
| ryouma | yes | 23:38 |
| nixonix | ile of man? | 23:39 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +18201 cases (now 11.8 million), +576 deaths (now 539897) since 21 minutes ago — Sweden: +1642 cases (now 73061), +13 deaths (now 5433) since 2 days ago — Brazil: +9933 cases (now 1.6 million), +367 deaths (now 65487) since 4 hours ago — US: +3467 cases (now 3.0 million), +9 deaths (now 132793) since 21 minutes ago | 23:39 |
| ryouma | of course keep going same answer | 23:39 |
| ryouma | but i am still searching for the isle of woman | 23:39 |
| nixonix | but they are not part of uk. im confused | 23:39 |
| ryouma | ok, nixonix, imagine being me for a second, and trying to choose a word | 23:39 |
| ryouma | now, what word would i use to describe the problem ITSELF of choosing the word? | 23:40 |
| ryouma | the general uk semantic area includes pacific islands, etc. there are all sorts of terms for whether the queen has anything todo with it, whether it has independence, whether it is ont he same island, who controls this aspect of government, whether the nhs is there, etc. subjects/citizens undertstand all this stuff. but you draw the venn diagram and it would take some studying for some outsiders like myself to gr | 23:42 |
| ryouma | asp exactlyw hat is what and what should be named what and what would occur in a war or in brexit or who gets what kind of independence and so on. | 23:42 |
| ryouma | like, uk doesn't include wales. ok that is one factoid. i thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiink. but the prince of wales controls... what again? | 23:43 |
| nixonix | you meant union? | 23:43 |
| ryouma | no clue. i suspect there is no word but a brit will correct me. or a man-resident. or something. | 23:43 |
| nixonix | what, wales is a country | 23:43 |
| ryouma | ok see there you go! | 23:43 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: REGENERON ANNOUNCES START OF REGN-COV2 PHASE 3 COVID-19 PREVENTION TRIAL IN COLLABORATION WITH NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF ALLERGY AND INFECTIOUS DISEASES (NIAID) (87 votes) | https://investor.regeneron.com/news-releases/news-release-details/regeneron-announces-start-regn-cov2-phase-3-covid-19-prevention | https://redd.it/hmd1i0 | 23:44 |
| ryouma | nixonix: https://qntm.org/uk | 23:45 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: US death toll surpasses 130,000; India's cases third-highest in world → https://is.gd/WiinRL | 23:45 |
| ryouma | the word for the ENTIRE PROBLEM is yet to be identified | 23:45 |
| ryouma | so i just said uk area meaning semantic area, but i am confused enough with just nearby stuff so that's ok if you want to limit it geographically | 23:46 |
| nixonix | so ireland is part of british islands, that is an union of those in the pic | 23:46 |
| ryouma | and anyway who says finns are scandinavian? | 23:46 |
| nixonix | depends who you ask. theres no official definition | 23:46 |
| nixonix | geographical, language? | 23:46 |
| ryouma | well there's um northern germanic or something vs. altaic? finno-ugric? and then there are all those norse epics and stuff which are ... non-finnish? sure it gets confusing but still i think the uk semantic area has you beaten. probably. | 23:47 |
| ryouma | (in ability to confuse me) | 23:48 |
| nixonix | stupid pic, theres no channel island or isle of man | 23:48 |
| nixonix | islands* | 23:48 |
| ryouma | and when we get outside that little area we have gibraltar and all sorts of weird things | 23:49 |
| ryouma | nuclear test sites whatever | 23:49 |
| nixonix | finno-ugric - the ugric part is mostly artificial in that, because there arent many languages in those groups (especially if you exclude those that are in fact dialects, just called languages for whatever reason). relationship with eg finnish and hungary is very distinct | 23:50 |
| ryouma | hmm | 23:51 |
| nixonix | its described to be about as close as swedish and greek. palasso isnt here, he might know if its similar.. | 23:51 |
| ryouma | is hungary related to slavic at all? | 23:51 |
| nixonix | no | 23:51 |
| nixonix | this visualizes it: https://imgur.com/gallery/5jsWIPD | 23:53 |
| nixonix | hungarian* | 23:53 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Gabon: +123 cases (now 5743), +2 deaths (now 46) since 2 days ago — World: +304 cases (now 11.8 million), +3 deaths (now 539900) since 20 minutes ago — Texas, US: +181 cases (now 206756), +1 deaths (now 2692) since 20 minutes ago — US: +181 cases (now 3.0 million), +1 deaths (now 132794) since 20 minutes ago | 23:54 |
| nixonix | it seems genetically hungarians are close to CZ, a bit towards slovenians | 23:59 |
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