libera/##covid-19/ Sunday, 2020-08-23

CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Persistence of SARS-CoV-2 in the first trimester placenta leading to vertical transmission and fetal demise from an asymptomatic mother (80 votes) | https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.08.18.20177121v1 | https://redd.it/iegqom00:16
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Brazil registers 50,032 new cases of coronavirus, 892 deaths in 24 hours → https://is.gd/l5acSe00:40
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Instagram account touting "COVID Parties" removed, named in lawsuit filed by Arizona Board of Regents → https://is.gd/q4nhRY00:50
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: COVID-19 deaths most likely being underreported in the U.S., says GlobalData → https://is.gd/XDX0Kh01:28
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Mexico nears somber coronavirus milestone even as signs of hope emerge → https://is.gd/pSD0V602:07
ryoumathe covid parties one alleges russian interference02:11
ryoumai have this unprovable suspicion that nations are trying to screw up other nations using social media02:12
LjLunprovable you say02:16
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Famine of “biblical proportions” predicted in the world due to coronavirus pandemic → https://is.gd/UwCEyA02:26
ryoumaLjL: i mean i have this disturbing feeling that ...02:29
ryoumai am surprised tghat doomsday cults have not sprung up all over02:30
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: 56 people in a Starbucks in Paju, South Korea tested positive for COVID-19 after 1 infected patient visited the store. However, the workers all tested negative – why? Because they work a mask throughout the entirety of their shift. → https://is.gd/KHzhlT03:06
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Large number of ICU beds, ventilators found unused in govt warehouse in Bangladesh → https://is.gd/Gh2wox03:35
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: South Dakota sets new record for active coronavirus cases with 251 increase Saturday → https://is.gd/nux9oy04:14
ryoumafor this one does it cast doubt on usa data routing?  --- 16:28 <Brainstorm> New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: COVID-19 deaths most likely being underreported in the U.S., says GlobalData → https://is.gd/XDX0Kh04:17
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Health Department adds 20,000 unreported tests in Washington County Arkansas → https://is.gd/PIZ4Hi04:23
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Coronavirus cases rise by 4,943 in Texas, 215 new deaths → https://is.gd/25gxJo04:33
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Dishonesty during a pandemic: The concealment of COVID-19 information (80 votes) | https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1359105320951603 | https://redd.it/iesapa04:43
ryoumabah.  it is claiming those who have covid lie.  i thought it was going to shed light on national statistics.04:52
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Russia's 2nd vaccine candidate, EpiVacCorona shows promise against prevention from COVID-19 → https://is.gd/1jgBkB04:53
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: UT’s own model projects 82-183 students may arrive with COVID-19 when classes start. → https://is.gd/tueb3U05:12
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: New Zealand reports 3 new cases: 2 in managed isolation, 1 linked to Auckland cluster → https://is.gd/KY2mJ905:22
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Long-Haulers Are Redefining COVID-19 Without understanding the lingering illness that some patients experience, we can’t understand the pandemic. → https://is.gd/ko5GiL05:41
LjL18<25Brainstorm18> New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: 56 people in a Starbucks in Paju, South Korea tested positive for COVID-19 after 1 infected patient visited the store. However, the workers all tested negative – why? Because they work a mask throughout the entirety of their shift. → https://is.gd/KHzhlT05:53
LjL↑ this looks... big. tinwhiskers05:53
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Amid coronavirus surge in California, hospital workers say they're not protected → https://is.gd/o51CCu06:02
tinwhiskersanother nice anecdote06:02
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: How does coronavirus spread at a concert? Germany held a pop concert to find out → https://is.gd/OMavOv06:11
mrmanhello06:13
LjLtinwhiskers: pretty big anecdote, the numbers are study-scale06:19
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: 56 people in a Starbucks in Paju, South Korea tested positive for COVID-19 after 1 infected patient visited the store. However, the workers all tested negative – why? Because they work a mask throughout the entirety of their shift. (10161 votes) | https://www.insight.co.kr/news/299857?fbclid=IwAR3XtrhPNuF2EFE7ufVWJs0ZHs6tLAYilO7hgbhkCb6CIt4B3YtyGVpaa4E | https://redd.it/ietz7p06:19
ryoumadid the masked patrons get infected?06:26
ryoumaif there were any06:26
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: ‘Unbelievable Phenomenon’: Coronavirus Pandemic Causing Plastic Surgery Boom → https://is.gd/ogY4vs06:30
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Does the US have the worst coronavirus death rate? → https://is.gd/lhJVo306:40
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: SARS-CoV-2 infects brain choroid plexus and disrupts the blood-CSF-barrier (81 votes) | https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.08.20.259937v1 | https://redd.it/iegolb06:56
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Canada's economy growing twice as fast as U.S. due to better COVID-19 response → https://is.gd/Wppq1W07:09
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Covid-19 Live Updates: Global Death Toll Surpasses 800,000 → https://is.gd/LMi37e07:28
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus*: Coronavirus: UConn Health Researchers Find a Simple Oral Rinse Can Inactivate the COVID-19 Virus → https://is.gd/8R7saY07:58
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: German researchers stage crowded concert to study spread of Covid-19 at big gatherings → https://is.gd/CY667S08:07
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Coronavirus End Date: WHO Reveals When COVID-19 Pandemic Will END → https://is.gd/MLOsXf08:27
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Cold or COVID? My uncomfortable 14-day journey → https://is.gd/A4zolY08:36
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Coronavirus: Missing school is worse than virus for children - Whitty → https://is.gd/Z7GcBe08:46
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Global Coronavirus Tracker Updates, 23 August: Worldwide deaths surpass 8,00,000 → https://is.gd/kTZ7Mn09:24
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Coronavirus: Missing school is worse than virus for children - Whitty → https://is.gd/Z7GcBe10:04
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: France says country’s new coronavirus cases predominate among people under 40 → https://is.gd/O2G9ci10:13
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Coronavirus: Missing school is worse than virus for children - Whitty → https://is.gd/Z7GcBe10:23
yuta"no risk-free options"10:25
IndoAnonyuta: homeschool is a valid option 10:30
yutaIndoAnon:special atittude makes another problem.10:38
IndoAnonyeah, family is getting dysfunctional, yuta10:48
yutaIndoAnon:i see.10:52
IndoAnonYeah, assuming the parents have experience something called "parenting" 10:55
IndoAnonthat's basically teaching 10:55
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Could Germany's COVID concert experiment help arenas hold large events again? → https://is.gd/TUEsJB11:12
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: As COVID-19 deaths surpass 60,000, Mexico hits 'catastrophic scenario' officials warned about → https://is.gd/eSvMwD11:22
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: South Korea on 'brink of nationwide coronavirus pandemic': Live → https://is.gd/PNQD4V11:31
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Belorussian protester, who went missing during the 12th August protests, found hanged in a forest with traces of beating - the latest one in a spree of suspicious hanging. → https://is.gd/YJEXoR11:41
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Coronavirus: Missing school is worse than virus for children - Whitty → https://is.gd/Z7GcBe12:00
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Opinion by Robert M. Sapolsky: Why our brains are having so much trouble with Covid-19 → https://is.gd/Py9j8012:20
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Coronavirus: Missing school is worse than virus for children - Whitty → https://is.gd/Z7GcBe12:29
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: What if We Worried Less About the Accuracy of Coronavirus Tests? → https://is.gd/wnBOh512:58
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: COVID-19: At least 13 crushed to death as Peru police raid clandestine club party → https://is.gd/E9P6Og13:08
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Coronavirus: Missing school is worse than virus for children - [UK's chief medical adviser] Whitty → https://is.gd/m6gIRn13:18
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: South Korea elevates distancing amid concerns Covid-19 may get out of control → https://is.gd/rlDB5S13:27
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express (Health): Destination of the week: Tweak the view from your window and say goodbye to lockdown boredom → https://is.gd/hpqyhi13:37
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: S. Korea ‘on brink of nationwide pandemic’ → https://is.gd/W8MbxE14:07
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: What you need to know about the MyPillow guy's supposed COVID-19 cure → https://is.gd/9cI0wY14:16
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Emerging of a SARS-CoV-2 viral strain with a deletion in nsp1 (80 votes) | https://www.researchgate.net/publication/343797723_Emerging_of_a_SARS-CoV-2_viral_strain_with_a_deletion_in_nsp1 | https://redd.it/iexj8b14:17
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Coronavirus: Missing school is worse than virus for children - Whitty → https://is.gd/Z7GcBe14:26
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Russia plans Covid-19 vaccine output at 6 million doses a month: Report → https://is.gd/Aswb1a14:55
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: A dynamic COVID-19 immune signature includes associations with poor prognosis (80 votes) | https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-1038-6 | https://redd.it/ieq2yt15:11
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Coca-Cola or 'bottled poison'? Mexico finds a COVID-19 villain in big soda → https://is.gd/kUUD0f15:15
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus*: Coronavirus: Public officials move to muzzle violent outbursts by anti-maskers | Leading public health authorities all but beg people to wear them. Local, state and federal government officials are imploring, and in two-thirds of states, mandating, citizens to don them in public. → https://is.gd/JTPJNX15:35
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Gavin Williamson skipped meeting to go on holiday ahead of A-level fiasco, reports claim: The UK education secretary has faced calls to resign from frustrated pupils and some politicians after a U-turn on the use of an algorithm that disproportionately downgraded students at disadvantaged schools. → https://is.gd/lLy8vJ15:54
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Thirteen people died in a stampede at a disco in Peru after a police raid to enforce the country’s lockdown during the coronavirus pandemic, officials said Sunday. → https://is.gd/TuNH3H16:03
BrainstormNew from Ars Technica: Gaming & Culture: This COVID-19 summer’s must-watch show is… an NBA rookie’s YouTube page? → https://is.gd/gmFHe816:13
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Coronavirus: Missing school is worse than virus for children - Whitty → https://is.gd/Z7GcBe16:42
yutaIndoAnon:we lost parenting way and teaching way in house.16:49
LjLi think i'm failing to understand why this comment is getting downvoted, seems like it's stating a clear truth to me https://np.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/iexj8b/emerging_of_a_sarscov2_viral_strain_with_a/g2kk6ky/?context=317:03
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Sociopathic traits linked to non-compliance with mask guidelines and other COVID-19 containment measures (92 votes) | https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886920305377 | https://redd.it/if2oci17:07
ubLIX[m]i guess.. for theoretical equal contagiousness (independently of lethality), the more lethal one will be.. practically less contagious; so the question of the fitness of a more lethal strain will hinge on the how limiting to contagiousness is the lethality17:13
ubLIX[m]perhaps it is being downvoted because in its generality it is wrong, even while it might be true in some particular dynamic17:14
ubLIX[m]*-the17:16
Jigsy%cases UK17:20
BrainstormUpdates for World: +175620 cases (now 23.5 million), +3718 deaths (now 811040) since 18 hours ago — Ukraine: +2366 cases (now 105337), +38 deaths (now 2286) since 23 hours ago — Illinois, US: +2356 cases (now 219701), +17 deaths (now 8083) since 23 hours ago — Michigan, US: +1426 cases (now 106044), +21 deaths (now 6655) since 2 days ago17:20
BrainstormJigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 325642 confirmed cases (0.5% of the population) and 41429 deaths (12.7% of cases) as of 55 seconds ago. 18.3 million tests were performed (1.8% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data.17:20
LjLubLIX[m], it's not wrong in its generality. it states "more contagious" which means they are already considering a particular dynamic in which it is more lethal *and yet* more contagious for other reasons, and as i pointed out, in cases like HIV, it doesn't practically matter to the virus whether or not it's lethal, if it happens after 10 years. on the other hand, a "more lethal" virus tends to mean a virus that is able to replicate more (cause more 17:21
LjLdisruption in the host without caring), so if it manages to do *that* and yet only be lethal in a way that does not hinder contagiousness, then chances are it'll be more contagious...17:21
ubLIX[m]i have already closed the browser, but..17:22
ubLIX[m]*in some particular dynamic... unlikely to obtain     ?17:23
LjLwhatever, that comment is rightly reminding people that this thing could definitely become more lethal and yet also become the dominant strain17:26
LjLi believe the downvoting happens because people don't want to hear that17:26
LjLmeanwhile italy has a record in cases, but i'm quite perplexed as to the number of tests, there have been like *an order of magnitude* more tests than previously today (well, yesterday), unless this site is just broken17:27
LjLhttps://lab24.ilsole24ore.com/coronavirus/en/#box_617:27
LjLmaybe it's because they've *finally* set up testing at Malpensa17:27
LjLnope, it's because the region of Molise provided a bogus number17:31
LjLLombardy is still leading, despite Latium being a worse increment percentually because of the returns from holidays and consequent tests17:31
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: 30 coronavirus outbreaks found in English schools after June reopenings, new research shows → https://is.gd/TO9YPQ17:32
LjLand happily for me, Milan is growing wildly17:32
ubLIX[m]hmm. it is not obvious to me that the commenter means "more fit" in a population organising humans, more than in a population of animals; i suppose it is also not obvious that we qualify as organising animals wrt this virus, though17:33
LjLubLIX[m], seen from "above" we're probably displaying very predictable behaviors that have little connections to what the authorities are purportedly trying to achieve17:34
ubLIX[m]sure seems that way17:42
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Italy reports +1210 new cases in the last 24 hours → https://is.gd/hE5BKc17:51
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Italy Rules Out New Lockdown as Coronavirus Cases Rise → https://is.gd/FKTQeY18:10
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Coronavirus: Schools let down by lack of 'plan B', says union: Extra staff, more space and clear guidance is needed to reopen safely, the National Education Union says. → https://is.gd/9WUCYB18:39
benjamin1989%cases UK19:10
BrainstormUpdates for World: +14531 cases (now 23.6 million), +294 deaths (now 811334) since an hour ago — Greece: +283 cases (now 8664), +2 deaths (now 242) since 20 hours ago — US: +6287 cases (now 5.9 million), +97 deaths (now 180375) since an hour ago — Brazil: +6161 cases (now 3.6 million), +182 deaths (now 114469) since an hour ago19:10
Brainstormbenjamin1989: In United Kingdom, there have been 325642 confirmed cases (0.5% of the population) and 41429 deaths (12.7% of cases) as of an hour ago. 18.3 million tests were performed (1.8% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data.19:10
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: Anthony Fauci: "Helpless Means You Can't Do Anything. There's a Lot We Can Do." (10394 votes) | https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/anthony-fauci-helpless-means-you-can-t-do-anyting-there-s-a-lot-we-can-do-a-211cdaf5-d0b1-41f4-b62c-25b76f4d8828 | https://redd.it/if3gj919:26
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Emails show businesses held sway over state reopening plans - Associated Press - Aug 23rd, 2020 → https://is.gd/iNYYgB19:38
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Statement from the UK Chief Medical Officers on schools and childcare reopening (82 votes) | https://www.gov.uk/government/news/statement-from-the-uk-chief-medical-officers-on-schools-and-childcare-reopening | https://redd.it/if181j19:44
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Belarus: Lukashenko deploys army as fresh protests erupt → https://is.gd/411c4i19:48
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Video shows armed Belarus president as protests roil capital → https://is.gd/ProqeU20:07
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Public health lessons learned from biases in coronavirus mortality overestimation (83 votes) | https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/disaster-medicine-and-public-health-preparedness/article/public-health-lessons-learned-from-biases-in-coronavirus-mortality-overestimation/7ACD87D8FD2237285EB667BB28DCC6E9# | https://redd.it/if59po20:08
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Breaking News: FDA, under pressure from Trump, expected to authorize blood plasma as Covid-19 treatment → https://is.gd/JnApDx20:17
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: South Dakota sets new record for COVID-19 cases after hosting Sturgis Motorcycle Rally. → https://is.gd/7kTBpf20:36
lesmo9%cases Mexico20:39
Brainstormlesmo9: In Mexico, there have been 556216 confirmed cases (0.4% of the population) and 60254 deaths (10.8% of cases) as of 3 hours ago. 1.3 million tests were performed (44.4% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 0.1% (assuming prevalence as in tests) and less than 13.7% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Mexico for time series data.20:39
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: Trump will reportedly announce emergency authorization for coronavirus plasma treatment: President Donald Trump on Sunday will announce the emergency authorization of convalescent plasma for Covid-19, according to the Washington Post and other reports. → https://is.gd/Cqymxe20:46
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Gaps in early surveillance of coronavirus led to record-breaking US trajectory (80 votes) | https://news.nd.edu/news/gaps-in-early-surveillance-of-coronavirus-led-to-record-breaking-us-trajectory/ | https://redd.it/if6zjj21:02
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Health: Is convalescent plasma safe and effective? We answer the major questions about the Covid-19 treatment → https://is.gd/agbxdr21:36
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: Trump reportedly considers fast tracking AstraZeneca vaccine before election: The availability of a vaccine before the U.S. presidential election could allow President Donald Trump to justify his administration's handling of the coronavirus pandemic, which has faced widespread criticism. → https://is.gd/625qTI22:05
de-factofast tracking vaccine trials with project warp speed, appropriately named project indicating to beat natural limits like the speed of light (natures limit for causality), what could possibly go wrong with that?22:33
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Florida coronavirus: 600K infected, 10,300 residents dead → https://is.gd/mJJT7I22:43
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: Trump will reportedly announce emergency authorization for coronavirus plasma treatment: President Donald Trump on Sunday will announce the emergency authorization of convalescent plasma for Covid-19, according to the Washington Post and other reports. → https://is.gd/Cqymxe22:53
LjLde-facto, this is the "Oxford" vaccine23:45
de-factoyes I know23:45
de-facto%title https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31604-4/fulltext23:46
Brainstormde-facto: From www.thelancet.com: Safety and immunogenicity of the ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 vaccine against SARS-CoV-2: a preliminary report of a phase 1/2, single-blind, randomised controlled trial - The Lancet23:46
de-facto%title https://www.research.ox.ac.uk/Area/coronavirus-research/vaccine23:47
Brainstormde-facto: From www.research.ox.ac.uk: The Oxford Vaccine | Research | University of Oxford23:47
de-facto%title https://www.finddx.org/covid-19/pipeline/ <-- found a neat development pipeline database for COVID-19 tests :)23:49
Brainstormde-facto: From www.finddx.org: SARS-CoV-2 diagnostic pipeline - FIND23:49
de-factoLjL, maybe you can take a look for integration to your link collection?23:49
LjLwow, that's a lot of tests23:50
LjLam i blind or... the search parameters let you filter them by things that are not actually *stated* in the individual entries?23:51
de-factoyeah i hope they become available quick tests would help a lot imho23:51
LjLbut it's there in the XLS export23:51
de-factoyeah23:52
de-facto..."FIND is collating an overview of SARS-CoV-2 tests that are commercially available or in development for the diagnosis of COVID-19. We do not guarantee that this is a comprehensive list, since the information below has been submitted voluntarily by test suppliers and is not independently verified."...23:53
de-factoso its just a starting point, nothing officially verified or such, but quite a neat database23:54
de-facto..."FIND is the Foundation for Innovative New Diagnostics. We are a global non-profit organization driving innovation in the development and delivery of diagnostics to combat major diseases affecting the world’s poorest populations."...23:55
LjLDocScrutinizer05, if you click on Molecular assay evaluations and Immunoassay evaluations they also have independent evaluations of a few tests, with results including sensitivity etc23:56
LjLde-facto, *23:56
LjLseems more comprehensive for molecular tests than immunoassays23:56
DocScrutinizer05ETAB?23:57
DocScrutinizer05-EWRONGNICKCOMPLETION23:57
LjLDocScrutinizer05, yes sorry23:58
DocScrutinizer05np23:58
DocScrutinizer05heneric warning: today's update nuked my linux telegram client23:58
DocScrutinizer05generic* 23:59

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