libera/##covid-19/ Wednesday, 2020-08-26

BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: Texas evacuates residents for Hurricane Laura as coronavirus poses new challenges: "If you have to shelter people, how do you keep them safe during a pandemic?" asked Catherine Troisi, an infectious disease epidemiologist at UTHealth School of Public Health in Houston. "It's enough of a challenge in regular times." → https://is.gd/63UJTj00:00
BrainstormNew from ProPublica: Alaska’s Attorney General Resigns Hours After We Published “Uncomfortable” Texts He Sent to a Younger Colleague: by Kyle Hopkins , Anchorage Daily News ProPublica is a nonprofit newsroom that investigates abuses of power. Sign up to receive our biggest stories as soon as they’re published. This story was co-published with [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/covy2600:09
LjLubLIX[m], now i'm able to tell which pulse oximeter is NOT a good purchase00:28
ubLIX[m]oops?00:28
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Face coverings U-turn for England’s secondary schools: Pupils will have to wear masks in school corridors in local lockdown areas of England, after the government reversed its guidance. → https://is.gd/Ph7Fgs00:28
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Phase I clinical trial initiated for monoclonal antibody combination for the prevention and treatment of COVID-19 (80 votes) | https://www.astrazeneca.com/content/astraz/media-centre/press-releases/2020/phase-1-clinical-trial-initiated-for-monoclonal-antibody-combination-for-the-prevention-and-treatment-of-covid-19.html | https://redd.it/igd69r00:36
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: 30 states approved for extra unemployment money; American Airlines plans major cuts → https://is.gd/bk5mbp00:38
LjLubLIX[m], well, i'm just going to return it, no harm no foul. 1) it was promised to have the "8 hours recording" function, and it doesn't (it's probably just the lower model without it, but the listing wasa very clear), and 2) it can't be seen AT ALL outdoors, the LEDs are incredibly dim00:40
LjLubLIX[m], but i was able to compare it with my existing one, and the good news is they match; the bad news is they match00:40
ubLIX[m]):00:41
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Taiwanese tests positive after arrival in Shanghai, this second imported case from Taiwan to Shanghai within a week. Coincidentally, Taiwan reported no new cases other than "imported" cases for months. → https://is.gd/zjXbmG01:56
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Not just antibodies: B cells and T cells mediate immunity to COVID-19 (89 votes) | https://www.nature.com/articles/s41577-020-00436-4 | https://redd.it/igl55p02:01
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: C.D.C. Now Says People Without Covid-19 Symptoms Do Not Need Testing | The revision prompted confusion and alarm from experts, who called the move “potentially dangerous.” → https://is.gd/VPu0QY02:05
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Daily increase in coronavirus cases in Los Angeles County falls below 1,000 for the first time since early June → https://is.gd/O651jV02:25
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Eldest son of Bolsonaro, tests positive for COVID-19 → https://is.gd/DqbFtt02:54
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Where the Pandemic Is Cover for Authoritarianism. In Hong Kong and around the world, public-health concerns are being used to excuse extraordinary overreach. → https://is.gd/HqxcAl03:22
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: Nearly 9,000 Florida Children Diagnosed With Coronavirus in Two Weeks as Schools Reopen (10033 votes) | https://www.newsweek.com/nearly-9000-florida-children-diagnosed-coronavirus-two-weeks-schools-reopen-1527587 | https://redd.it/iglpvf03:44
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Exclusive: Fauci says rushing out a vaccine could jeopardize testing of others → https://is.gd/AJD5y603:51
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: More Than 200 Ohio State University Students Suspended For Violating Pandemic Rules → https://is.gd/bPy9q304:01
pynahello from the future former united states04:10
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: University of Alabama shuts down bars amid spike in COVID-19 cases → https://is.gd/2a5Qu304:11
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Kim Jong Un reportedly in a coma for months, recent appearances faked → https://is.gd/YJq9Ft04:21
ryoumapyna: hello.  what is the latest news of future formerness?04:21
ryouma(no details needed just executive summary)04:22
DynaKim Jong Un in a coma ... still this cant be true? Any other info on it or just going with that article04:22
ryoumawhy would it not be true?  nypost is a tabloid though.04:23
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Wisconsin Governor declares state of emergency after Jacob Blake protests → https://is.gd/zLt6kq04:30
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: 30 states approved for extra unemployment money; American Airlines plans major cuts → https://is.gd/bk5mbp04:40
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Cuba: COVID-19 Vaccine’s Clinical Trials Are Underway → https://is.gd/GXlVt205:19
pynathe trump national convention is unfolding in all of its trumposity05:24
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: 30 states approved for extra unemployment money; American Airlines plans major cuts → https://is.gd/bk5mbp05:28
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: New cases decline in U.S. → https://is.gd/y5m6eH06:17
xx64%cases usa06:33
BrainstormUpdates for Argentina: +8771 cases (now 359638), +197 deaths (now 7563) since a day ago — World: +211642 cases (now 24.1 million), +5572 deaths (now 824623) since 14 hours ago — Turkey: +1502 cases (now 261194), +24 deaths (now 6163) since a day ago — India: +62397 cases (now 3.2 million), +1020 deaths (now 59612) since 14 hours ago06:33
Brainstormxx64: In US, there have been 6.0 million confirmed cases (1.8% of the population) and 182404 deaths (3.1% of cases) as of 24 minutes ago. 77.9 million tests were performed (7.6% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 0.7% (assuming prevalence as in tests) and less than 5.3% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data.06:33
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: 30 states approved for extra unemployment money; American Airlines plans major cuts → https://is.gd/bk5mbp06:55
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Face coverings U-turn for England’s secondary schools: Pupils will have to wear masks in school corridors in local lockdown areas of England, after the government reversed its guidance. → https://is.gd/Ph7Fgs07:05
Dyna%stats Victoria07:05
BrainstormUpdates for World: +6985 cases (now 24.2 million), +82 deaths (now 824705) since 56 minutes ago — France: +3063 cases (now 270455) since 56 minutes ago — Ukraine: +1715 cases (now 110949), +27 deaths (now 2362) since 15 hours ago — St Martin, France: +22 cases (now 198) since 4 days ago07:05
BrainstormDyna: In Victoria, Australia, there have been 18608 confirmed cases (0.3% of the population) and 462 deaths (2.5% of cases) as of 32 seconds ago. 69000 tests were performed (27.0% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Victoria for time series data.07:05
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: New US virus cases fall as masks gain favor but testing lags → https://is.gd/316OxG07:34
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: So you've tested positive for Covid. Here's what happens next → https://is.gd/uzdtYw08:23
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Coronavirus: Face coverings U-turn for England’s secondary schools: Pupils must wear masks in corridors in local lockdown areas after the government reversed its guidance. → https://is.gd/Ph7Fgs08:42
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Saudi Arabia’s most famous prisoners go silent during pandemic → https://is.gd/2Lx6Ro09:01
BrainstormNew from Lombardia Provvedimenti: (news): Coronavirus in Lombardia, tutti gli aggiornamenti in diretta → https://is.gd/ywk7yI09:21
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Stealth jet tests limits of Israel’s peace push with Arab power → https://is.gd/LqXtsA09:30
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: 30 states approved for extra unemployment money; American Airlines plans major cuts → https://is.gd/bk5mbp09:40
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Ex-Ukrainian PM Tymoshenko Moved to Intensive Care With Covid-19 → https://is.gd/hLk92z09:59
Trippy72394Is there any case where someone got covid then got better then got it again?10:10
\mSgTrippy72394, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opXKziqh9xw10:13
Trippy72394youtube is blocked here in china10:13
Trippy72394so sorry10:13
Trippy72394Is that a yes? 10:14
\mSgYes, it's to be expected. 3 cases found so far. So far, reinfection was mild.10:14
Trippy72394Oh, dear.10:14
Mikaela[meow]<Trippy72394 "Is there any case where someone "> someone in Hong-kong and a health care worker in Argentina10:14
\mSgdoesn't indicate anything for an effective vaccine.10:15
Trippy72394Dear, oh dear.10:15
Trippy72394That's bad news.10:15
Mikaela[meow]The third one hasn't been in Finnish news yet that I know of10:15
Trippy72394Is all of this recent news?10:15
Mikaela[meow]I read of the Argentinan case today and the other was within three days too10:18
Trippy72394Okay. Thanks all. Not happy news, but it is what it is.10:18
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Coronavirus: Face coverings U-turn for England’s secondary schools: Pupils must wear masks in corridors in local lockdown areas after the government reversed its guidance. → https://is.gd/Ph7Fgs10:19
Trippy72394Stay safe.10:19
\mSgI wouldn't necessarily call it bad news. These RT-PCR tests can be very sensitive, and having an immune response doesn't mean cells can't be infected - it just means your immune system is better equipped to deal with it, so it's possible to test positive but have a healthy immune response that won't induce cytokine storms, or let it run rampant.10:19
Trippy72394Okay, that sounds better.10:19
\mSgThe hong kong individual was completely asymptomatic - but they picked him up at the air port testing positive whereas the first round he was hospitalized.10:26
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Opinion: Americans aren’t listening to coronavirus warnings because the messaging is wrong: The coronavirus doesn't pick sides. If our elected leaders are unable to put political motivations aside and deliver consistent messages for the benefit of the nation's health, we will all… → https://is.gd/wtoUWn10:48
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Spain reports more than 7,000 coronavirus cases, overtaking the US in new infections → https://is.gd/OyclnE11:07
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Coronavirus: Face coverings U-turn for England’s secondary schools: Pupils must wear masks in corridors in local lockdown areas after the government reversed its guidance. → https://is.gd/Ph7Fgs11:17
BrainstormNew from BMJ: Making ordinary decisions in extraordinary times: The pandemic arrivesThe covid-19 pandemic has led to unprecedented uncertainty for governments and healthcare bodies across the world, bringing with it the very real threat of overwhelmed systems.... → https://is.gd/C3BBwq11:26
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Coronavirus: Face coverings U-turn for England’s secondary schools: Pupils must wear masks in corridors in local lockdown areas after the government reversed its guidance. → https://is.gd/Ph7Fgs11:36
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Beijing Now Coronavirus-Free as Last Two Patients Discharged From Hospital → https://is.gd/hP28cs11:46
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Phantom Companies Got More Than $1 Billion in Coronavirus Aid → https://is.gd/V6bT3h12:05
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: 30 states approved for extra unemployment money; American Airlines plans major cuts → https://is.gd/bk5mbp12:24
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: ‘Australian COVID-19 vaccine shows promising results in animal trials’ → https://is.gd/fvG2iu12:44
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Coronavirus: Face coverings U-turn for England’s secondary schools: Pupils must wear masks in corridors in local lockdown areas after the government reversed its guidance. → https://is.gd/Ph7Fgs13:03
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: ‘Sex difference in immune response to COVID-19 decoded’ → https://is.gd/5JrEOA13:23
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Remains dug from Japan mass grave suggest epidemic in 1800s → https://is.gd/Q5Zo1Y13:32
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Coronavirus: Face coverings U-turn for England’s secondary schools: Pupils must wear masks in corridors in local lockdown areas after the government reversed its guidance. → https://is.gd/Ph7Fgs13:52
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: From 'happy hypoxia' to purpuric rashes — here are all the perilous ways the coronavirus attacks the body: Once thought to be a disease that primarily attacked the lungs, doctors now know Covid-19 can be unpredictable, manifesting a range of symptoms and placing stress anywhere in the body. → https://is.gd/MTY1sQ14:01
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Virus concerns fall in swing states; University of Iowa president blames businesses for outbreak → https://is.gd/z0K4YM14:11
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Coronavirus: Face coverings U-turn for England’s secondary schools: Pupils must wear masks in corridors in local lockdown areas after the government reversed its guidance. → https://is.gd/Ph7Fgs14:50
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: In a shift, Belarus leader seeks to stem protests gradually → https://is.gd/nGGkJl14:59
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: From 'happy hypoxia' to purpuric rashes — here are all the perilous ways the coronavirus attacks the body: Once thought to be a disease that primarily attacked the lungs, doctors now know Covid-19 can be unpredictable, manifesting a range of symptoms and placing stress anywhere in the body. → https://is.gd/MTY1sQ15:19
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: Dr. Scott Gottlieb: 'This is really a 2020 event' provided U.S. stays vigilant on coronavirus: The former FDA chief hopes America is beyond the throes of the pandemic by early next year, but cautioned against easing up on public health mitigation strategies. → https://is.gd/c6NX3C15:57
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Virus concerns fall in swing states; University of Iowa president blames businesses for outbreak → https://is.gd/z0K4YM16:07
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Effectiveness of Cloth Masks Depends on Type of Covering (82 votes) | https://publishing.aip.org/publications/latest-content/effectiveness-of-cloth-masks-depends-on-type-of-covering/ | https://redd.it/igwujs16:13
Jigsy%cases UK16:25
BrainstormUpdates for Chhattisgarh, India: +1287 cases (now 23341), +15 deaths (now 221) since a day ago — Baleares, Spain: +909 cases (now 6603), +1 deaths (now 229) since a day ago — World: +43373 cases (now 24.2 million), +970 deaths (now 825675) since 9 hours ago — Puducherry, India: +567 cases (now 11426), +8 deaths (now 172) since a day ago16:25
BrainstormJigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 327798 confirmed cases (0.5% of the population) and 41449 deaths (12.6% of cases) as of 10 hours ago. 18.3 million tests were performed (1.8% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data.16:25
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: Dr. Scott Gottlieb: 'This is really a 2020 event' provided U.S. stays vigilant on coronavirus: The former FDA chief hopes America is beyond the throes of the pandemic by early next year, but cautioned against easing up on public health mitigation strategies. → https://is.gd/c6NX3C16:55
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: CDC quietly revises guidance on asymptomatic testing; Davos 2021 summit postponed → https://is.gd/z0K4YM17:05
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: Moderna says its coronavirus vaccine shows promising results in small trial of elderly patients: The vaccine produced neutralizing antibodies, which researchers believe are necessary to build immunity to the virus, and killer T-cells, Moderna said. → https://is.gd/5Limhx17:24
LjLryouma, tinwhiskers: The Atlantic runs this https://covidtracking.com/about-data/sources which is only about the US but i guess it sort of satisfies the requirements of being "independent" to an extent of federal government data? (thinking about it being moved from the CDC to the white house directly) they don't go further than states, but they say "We’ve built a state grading system so state governments and their constituents can see who’s doing w17:25
LjLell and who is underperforming."17:25
LjLand they have an open API https://covidtracking.com/data/api17:25
LjLif it were worldwide i'd be all excited, but i guess given the US is mudding the waters with their data, it may be good to have a US-specific data source that thinks critically at least a little17:25
LjL"Additionally, in some cases, we retrieve data from sources that states have hidden from their public dashboards."17:26
LjLhttps://covidtracking.com/about-data/faq#will-you-still-be-able-to-report-hospital-data-given-the-new-hhs-reporting-requirements-of-july-15-202017:27
LjLalso the NYT has this https://github.com/nytimes/covid-19-data which i guess is similar in spirit. https://github.com/nytimes/covid-19-data/tree/master/mask-use in it may interest tinwhiskers17:32
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: Dr. Scott Gottlieb: 'This is really a 2020 event' provided U.S. stays vigilant on coronavirus: The former FDA chief hopes America is beyond the throes of the pandemic by early next year, but cautioned against easing up on public health mitigation strategies. → https://is.gd/c6NX3C17:34
LjL<CarlSagan> [Ars Technica - Science] CDC loses its mind, says people exposed to COVID-19 do not need testing https://arstechnica.com/?p=1701394 2020-08-26T15:24:4817:43
LjLi might not disagree but that headline is a tad editorialized uh :D17:43
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: CDC quietly revises guidance on asymptomatic testing; Davos 2021 summit postponed → https://is.gd/z0K4YM18:22
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: Obesity increases risk of Covid-19 death by 48%, study finds (10241 votes) | https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/26/obesity-increases-risk-of-covid-19-death-by-48-study-finds?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Add_to_Firefox | https://redd.it/igwdjj19:02
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Coronavirus in the UK: How many confirmed cases are there in your area? → https://is.gd/8rLBbe19:11
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: CDC quietly revises guidance on asymptomatic testing; Davos 2021 summit postponed → https://is.gd/z0K4YM19:21
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): WHO says it's rare, but possible, that people who have recovered from the coronavirus can get it again → https://is.gd/16gTNG19:40
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: Moderna says its coronavirus vaccine shows promising results in small trial of elderly patients: The vaccine produced neutralizing antibodies, which researchers believe are necessary to build immunity to the virus, and killer T-cells, Moderna said. → https://is.gd/5Limhx19:50
BrainstormNew from ScienceMag: [Research Articles] CRISPR-engineered human brown-like adipocytes prevent diet-induced obesity and ameliorate metabolic syndrome in mice: Brown and brown-like beige/brite adipocytes dissipate energy and have been proposed as therapeutic targets to combat metabolic disorders. However, the therapeutic effects of cell-based therapy in [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/rkLqND20:09
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: Moderna says its coronavirus vaccine shows promising results in small trial of elderly patients: The vaccine produced neutralizing antibodies, which researchers believe are necessary to build immunity to the virus, and T-cells, Moderna said. → https://is.gd/5Limhx20:19
LjL%tr <it “I dati di oggi – spiega l’assessore al Welfare della Regione Lombardia – si caratterizzano per l’elevato numero di tamponi effettuati, 16.561, dai quali sono scaturite 269 positività. Circa 2/3 di queste sono determinate da rientri in Lombardia dall’estero. Ben 214 dei casi positivi odierni sono riferiti a persone con età inferiore a 50 anni, 28 di questi sono minorenni.20:26
BrainstormLjL, Italian to English: “Today's data - explains the Lombardy Region Welfare Councilor - are characterized by the high number of swabs carried out, 16,561, which resulted in 269 positives. About 2/3 of these are determined by returns to Lombardy from abroad. As many as 214 of today's positive cases refer to people under the age of 50, 28 of these are minors. (MyMemory) [... want %more?]20:26
LjLthe data are +269 in Lombardy, +102 Milan province20:26
LjLis it "good" that the vast majority are from abroad and <50? to me it means a lot of potential people to infect "the vulnerable" in a week or so20:27
BrainstormNew from Ars Technica: Tech: Final Cut Pro 10.4.9 adds new remote workflows for a COVID-19 world → https://is.gd/MWCkGL20:28
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: More Than A Quarter Of Inmates At Green Bay Prison Test Positive For COVID-19 -- DOC Reports 258 Inmates, 25 Staff Contract Coronavirus → https://is.gd/atBDM020:38
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: CDC quietly revises guidance on asymptomatic testing; Davos 2021 summit postponed → https://is.gd/z0K4YM20:58
LjLubLIX[m], indirectly COVID-19 related from ##EU: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/aug/25/boris-johnson-will-quit-dominic-cummings-father-in-law-reportedly-says seems like gossip, but it brings up how people tend to feel after COVID21:33
LjLit references https://www.bristol.ac.uk/news/2020/august/discover-study-findings.html21:34
BrainstormNew from Ars Technica: Science: In alarming move, CDC says people exposed to COVID-19 do not need testing [Updated] → https://is.gd/NLit6B21:46
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: CDC quietly revises guidance on asymptomatic testing; WHO on the possibility of reinfection → https://is.gd/z0K4YM22:45
BrainstormNew from https://covid19.specops.network *: ljl-covid: Add Bristol University study showing 80 out or 100 hospital patients … → https://is.gd/dT69PV22:54
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Errors in Statistical Numbers and Data in Study of Cardiovascular Magnetic Resonance Imaging in Patients Recently Recovered From COVID-19 (80 votes) | https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/article-abstract/2770026 | https://redd.it/ih0uwo23:10
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: CDC proposes guidelines for distributing vaccine in the U.S.; WHO on the possibility of reinfection → https://is.gd/z0K4YM23:23
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Dr. Anthony Fauci says he wasn't invited to Tuesday's White House coronavirus briefing → https://is.gd/EtLNFf23:52

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