| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: California revising reopening framework; CDC plans for vaccine distribution → https://is.gd/z0K4YM | 00:40 |
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| ubLIX[m] | LjL: nice to see followup studies | 00:53 |
| LjL | ubLIX[m], results less nice ;( | 00:54 |
| ubLIX[m] | no abnormal radiology in those never having required oxygen is encouraging, though, at least for some | 00:56 |
| ryouma | tinwhiskers: LjL also did you notice "Virus concerns fall in swing states → https://is.gd/z0K4YM" | 00:57 |
| ryouma | i can't do it but if anybody wanted to list swing states in tinwhiskers' format it could be interesting to compare them to non-swing states | 01:06 |
| ryouma | (already said before) | 01:06 |
| tinwhiskers | and as previously mentioned, just select the states you wish to be included for "Swing states" and "Non-swing states" and send me the url for each. If you can tick a box you can do it. | 01:09 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +15704 cases (now 24.4 million), +404 deaths (now 829873) since 17 minutes ago — Colombia: +10142 cases (now 572270), +295 deaths (now 18184) since 19 hours ago — Brazil: +4848 cases (now 3.7 million), +91 deaths (now 117756) since 17 minutes ago — Fr. Polynesia: +43 cases (now 415) since a day ago | 01:21 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, honestly that may be the easiest part, when i look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swing_state i already fail to understand the difference between a "swing state" and a "competitive state" and i'm seeing at least two lists from two sources that may or may not be trying to determine the same thing | 01:21 |
| LjL | "Perennial" swing states according to blah: Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Wisconsin | 01:22 |
| tinwhiskers | hence it takes a USAian to do it | 01:22 |
| LjL | "Competitive states" according to blah: Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Minnesota, Arizona, Georgia, Virginia, Florida, Michigan, Nevada, Colorado, North Carolina, and Maine | 01:22 |
| LjL | ryouma, does either of these list come close to what you would call the swing states? | 01:24 |
| LjL | that particular poll being cited only has 6 staets | 01:25 |
| ryouma | despite living 9in the country i don't know the swing/competitive distinction either. it possibly means something like "there is a chance of changing parties" vs. "there is no chance of changing parties". i HAVE heard that this election year some states that were safe (i.e. not swing) are no longer safe and might even be swing. | 01:45 |
| ryouma | there is this for az: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-arizona-became-a-swing-state/ | 01:48 |
| ryouma | (did not read) | 01:50 |
| ryouma | i have to try to follow politics as little as possible for health reasons, so i am not up on these things, and some of it only going to be known by dedicated politics followers. but i figure that ANY major-source list could be interesting. i suppose if you get different major-source answers on a given state, then you might include it in an unsure category? | 01:51 |
| ryouma | florida is infamous for the bush-gore election. ("hanging chads".) | 02:03 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Martinique: +132 cases (now 596) since 2 days ago — World: +3260 cases (now 24.4 million), +86 deaths (now 829959) since 46 minutes ago — US: +2114 cases (now 6.0 million), +70 deaths (now 183600) since 46 minutes ago — Panama: +701 cases (now 89082), +13 deaths (now 1932) since 19 hours ago | 02:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: L.A. County reports cases of newborns with COVID-19 for first time → https://is.gd/Ba4ndT | 02:08 |
| ryouma | LjL: ok my guess is that competitive, swing, and toss-up can be considered to be synonyms (some pundits might have special meanings however). whereas bellwether and similar terms are different and irrelevant for our purposes. (our purposes being to find states where policy or campaigning will potentially focus on.) | 02:13 |
| LjL | ryouma, i think i'm going to make a list that includes only states found on both wikipedia lists, and for the non-swing, a list that includes ones found in neither | 02:13 |
| ryouma | sounds good | 02:14 |
| ryouma | battleground is another synonym | 02:15 |
| ryouma | but closest is NOT a synonym! | 02:18 |
| ryouma | have to punt on the non-state electoral districts | 02:20 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: COVID-19 Vaccine Candidate mRNA-1273 Reports Interim Phase 1 Data → https://is.gd/w8ltqh | 02:27 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: ABBOTT'S FAST, $5, 15-MINUTE, EASY-TO-USE COVID-19 ANTIGEN TEST RECEIVES FDA EMERGENCY USE AUTHORIZATION; MOBILE APP DISPLAYS TEST RESULTS TO HELP OUR RETURN TO DAILY LIFE; RAMPING PRODUCTION TO 50 MILLION TESTS A MONTH (91 votes) | | 02:30 |
| CoronaBot | https://abbott.mediaroom.com/2020-08-26-Abbotts-Fast-5-15-Minute-Easy-to-Use-COVID-19-Antigen-Test-Receives-FDA-Emergency-Use-Authorization-Mobile-App-Displays-Test-Results-to-Help-Our-Return-to-Daily-Life-Ramping-Production-to-50-Million-Tests-a-Month | https://redd.it/ih9hz1 | 02:30 |
| LjL | holy r/covid19, shout more | 02:34 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, Swing states: Colorado;Florida;Michigan;Minnesota;Nevada;New Hampshire;North Carolina;Pennsylvania;Virginia;Wisconsin | 02:35 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, Non-swing states: Alabama;Alaska;Arkansas;California;Connecticut;Delaware;Hawaii;Idaho;Illinois;Indiana;Kansas;Kentucky;Louisiana;Maryland;Massachusetts;Mississippi;Missouri;Montana;Nebraska;New Jersey;New Mexico;New York;North Dakota;Oklahoma;Oregon;Rhode Island;South Carolina;South Dakota;Tennessee;Texas;Utah;Vermont;Washington;West Virginia;Wyoming | 02:35 |
| LjL | (this doesn't add up to 50, on purpose, as mentioned earlier) | 02:35 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: UK flu jab rates prompt complacency warning: Experts fear the winter flu season could coincide with a rise in Covid-19 infections. → https://is.gd/9UI3Kq | 02:46 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: mRNA-1273 Vaccine Against COVID-19: Phase 1 Interim Analysis of Older Adult Cohorts (ages 56-70 and 71+) (81 votes) | https://investors.modernatx.com/static-files/1dc3deaf-4a1b-46f8-8aed-33bfd7b2c979 | https://redd.it/ih86tn | 02:48 |
| Jigsy | %cases UK | 02:51 |
| Brainstorm | Jigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 329350 confirmed cases (0.5% of the population) and 45712 deaths (13.9% of cases) as of 57 seconds ago. 18.3 million tests were performed (1.8% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data. | 02:51 |
| Jigsy | Heh. | 02:51 |
| Jigsy | %cases world | 02:53 |
| Brainstorm | Jigsy: In World, there have been 24.4 million confirmed cases (0.3% of the population) and 830121 deaths (3.4% of cases) as of 4 minutes ago. 498.1 million tests were performed (4.9% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 0.2% (assuming prevalence as in tests) and less than 4.8% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=World for time series data. | 02:53 |
| Jigsy | Looks like my forecast might be sooner than I expected. | 02:54 |
| wizzkid | What about the people dying of other causes and it being labeled COVID | 02:56 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: All 77 false-positive COVID-19 tests come back negative upon reruns → https://is.gd/QSbQQF | 02:56 |
| wizzkid | I knI know in South Africa there have been many that have corona on death certificate but it was actually aids or TB but they couldnt get to hospital for their meds..... and they were put as COVID deaths | 02:58 |
| wizzkid | Anyone know the statistics for the people who died of H1N1? I hear the only fatalities were people who had received vaccine?? not sure the validaty but I can totally believe it | 03:01 |
| tinwhiskers | LjL: ah. Thanks. I've put that in but it doesn't work very well. It would need some code changes to format both group member differently. The totals of the groups are meaningless. | 03:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Encouraging decrease in COVID-19 hospitalizations, says San Antonio Emergency room doctor → https://is.gd/BFo2vn | 03:06 |
| tinwhiskers | by population is kinda useful I guess. | 03:07 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, yeah i was thinking by population, although i don't expect to see anything dramatic, but, isn't it conceptually the same as the red vs blue state groupings | 03:11 |
| tinwhiskers | no | 03:11 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, well those groups aren't homogeneous by population either | 03:12 |
| LjL | in the swing vs not, there is a potentially meaningful, potentially meaningless crossing point in the doubling time on 18 august | 03:12 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: NC State University will close campus dorms, calling COVID situation ‘untenable’ → https://is.gd/0dCPvc | 03:16 |
| LjL | wizzkid, what about all the people dying of COVID and it being labeled other causes | 03:19 |
| LjL | my hunch is that it more than evens out | 03:19 |
| LjL | as to H1N1 vaccine causing more deaths than the flu itself, please don't come here with "I hear" on things like that. evidence for extraordinary claims. | 03:19 |
| wizzkid | yeah that was just my question in another group | 03:20 |
| wizzkid | The one being labled as covid one | 03:20 |
| wizzkid | I know In South Africa there are many dying of aids or TB even starvation but its just being labled covid .... but some how with all that we still sit at 0.2% morbidity if om not mistaken? | 03:22 |
| wizzkid | Its being labled covid to bring up numbers as much as possible so the gov. can justify their insane laws such as the ban on alcohol and tobacco! amoungst many others .... just one other... illegal to buy open toed shoes .... | 03:24 |
| wizzkid | I live in South Africa by the way | 03:25 |
| Brainstorm | New from BMJ Open: Determining the optimal dose of reactive balance training after stroke: study protocol for a pilot randomised controlled trial: Introduction Falls risk poststroke is highest soon after discharge from rehabilitation. Reactive balance training (RBT) aims to improve control of reactions to prevent falling after a loss of balance. In [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/Bqkc2c | 03:25 |
| wizzkid | And to the "i hear" ... If i am not 100% sure of something but im convinced it is true .... what should I say? "They are saying" ? | 03:26 |
| tinwhiskers | wizzkid: which channel is "The one being labled as covid one"? | 03:27 |
| wizzkid | huh? | 03:27 |
| tinwhiskers | wizzkid: You mentioned "another group... The one being labled as covid one". | 03:28 |
| tinwhiskers | There was a strong temporal association between vaccination and death, but I believe it was due to vaccinating people who may have come down with it. | 03:29 |
| wizzkid | no by that msg I ment that The One being The Question on the people being labeled as covid death | 03:30 |
| wizzkid | understand? maybe I need to comletely rephrase? | 03:30 |
| tinwhiskers | oh. I don't follow at all :-) | 03:31 |
| tinwhiskers | I was just curious if there was another covid channel I didn't know about. | 03:31 |
| tinwhiskers | *don't know about | 03:31 |
| wizzkid | Thank you for clarifying that for me... did you have to start with all the attacking questions? | 03:31 |
| tinwhiskers | excuse me? I was just asking about the other channel. No attacking. | 03:31 |
| tinwhiskers | what did I say that you perceived as an attack? | 03:33 |
| wizzkid | maybe it was the red writing that made it seem like you were shouting at me for what i said??? dude im a spring chicken to this IRC thing | 03:33 |
| tinwhiskers | red writing? | 03:33 |
| wizzkid | seems like when you tag me it goes red.... just noticed its only where you tagged me | 03:34 |
| wizzkid | tinwhiskers: does this go red for you? | 03:34 |
| tinwhiskers | well, it highlights me, yes. | 03:34 |
| ryouma | wizzkid: morbidity is probably not the term you are looking for | 03:34 |
| wizzkid | The whole sentance tho? | 03:34 |
| tinwhiskers | I'm sorry if mentioning your name appears like an attack on you ;-) | 03:34 |
| wizzkid | hahaha no dont be sorry ... its the first time its happened ... I wasnt sure why all of a sudden my name is there and now its also red | 03:35 |
| ryouma | mortality is deaths. morbidity is anything else including being seriously sick for hte rest of your life. the latter does matter, because of long covid. the proportions of significant severity of long covid (as a proportion of CASES) is possibly really REALLY high according to a bunch of research groups at major universities and nih | 03:36 |
| wizzkid | ryouma: then? | 03:36 |
| tinwhiskers | how each individual client deals with highlighting varies, but usually it will colour a message differently if your name is mentioned in it so it stands out from other messages. | 03:36 |
| ryouma | wizzkid: so,i think you wanted tgo say mortality probably? | 03:36 |
| wizzkid | morbidity: [ mor-bid´ĭ-te ] a diseased condition or state. the incidence or prevalence of a disease or of all diseases. See also morbidity rate . | 03:37 |
| ryouma | hum | 03:37 |
| ryouma | til | 03:37 |
| tinwhiskers | I'm still curious if there is another channel I don't know about... | 03:37 |
| wizzkid | medical dictionary | 03:38 |
| ryouma | well this is different. mortality and morbidity are often combined in same sentence as separate things. | 03:38 |
| ryouma | which dictionary? | 03:38 |
| wizzkid | yeah im on afew of them .... theres a way you can see what channels im on isnt there? | 03:38 |
| ryouma | btw i don't think you can make something red meaning attack. you can do bold if you want though. but that is just bold. | 03:38 |
| ryouma | wizzkid: we can see the ones tha twe4 are also on. we could in principle join all channels to make our dossier on you. :) | 03:39 |
| wizzkid | No seriously!!!! every msg that mentions me .... entire msg is in red | 03:39 |
| tinwhiskers | wizzkid: no... you could just say though. | 03:39 |
| ryouma | or join forces to do so :) | 03:39 |
| wizzkid | OK??? and then | 03:40 |
| wizzkid | ? | 03:40 |
| wizzkid | youll be on the same groups as me ..... then what | 03:41 |
| wizzkid | could be fun ;) | 03:41 |
| ryouma | (i have open-front shoes and am concerned about the fact that i wear them inside (only have that one pair of shoes) but i will take a shower after with shoes and socks on and hope it dilutes enough as i did in may) | 03:41 |
| ryouma | and put on booties | 03:41 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/coronavirus: CDC was pressured 'from the top down' to change coronavirus testing guidance, official says - ABC17NEWS (10165 votes) | https://www.abc17news.com/politics/national-politics/2020/08/26/cdc-was-pressured-from-the-top-down-to-change-coronavirus-testing-guidance-official-says/ | https://redd.it/ih2cbq | 03:42 |
| tinwhiskers | jesus. like getting blood out of a stone. never mind then. | 03:43 |
| LjL | <wizzkid> And to the "i hear" ... If i am not 100% sure of something but im convinced it is true .... what should I say? "They are saying" ? ← you should say who you're hearing it from and who is it that are saying | 03:43 |
| ryouma | everything tha tmentions me is in yellow. it is all software. | 03:44 |
| LjL | wizzkid, you seem to have me confused for tinwhiskers | 03:44 |
| LjL | or the other way around | 03:44 |
| wizzkid | LjL: That would be imposible... I do not sight every source I come across daily | 03:44 |
| tinwhiskers | wtff | 03:45 |
| LjL | too bad. i do, they are at https://covid19.specops.network | 03:45 |
| LjL | maybe you could give that a look, i hope it answers a few common issues that people have | 03:45 |
| wizzkid | every single one of your sources? | 03:45 |
| LjL | every one that seemed important and that i didn't forget about doing it because i was distracted | 03:45 |
| wizzkid | what? | 03:46 |
| LjL | as to "attacking questions", there's a lot of people coming here ending up saying that covid doesn't exist, that it's all a conspiracy, and things like that | 03:46 |
| LjL | you sounded like that sort of person. that is not welcome here. if you're just curious, then consider my attacking to be directed to the people who are like i described | 03:46 |
| wizzkid | am I saying that? | 03:46 |
| ryouma | oh i read that as deceased not diseased. so my original suggestgion stands. :) --- 18:37 <wizzkid> morbidity: [ mor-bid´ĭ-te ] a diseased condition or state. the incidence or prevalence of a disease or of all diseases. See also morbidity rate . | 03:47 |
| LjL | no, but they generally don't at first, they join and ask questions like "how is it with all the deaths that are counted as covid when they aren't?" | 03:47 |
| wizzkid | I am curious to hear what you guys know of | 03:47 |
| LjL | well what i see a lot of is countries trying to deflate their numbers, directly or by giving "very specific" numbers to the press | 03:48 |
| LjL | i don't really see much of the other way around | 03:48 |
| LjL | and i expect an outbreak in South Africa to be just as bad as an outbreak can possibly be, tbh | 03:48 |
| LjL | %cases south africa | 03:48 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: In South Africa, there have been 615701 confirmed cases (1.0% of the population) and 13502 deaths (2.2% of cases) as of 2 hours ago. 3.6 million tests were performed (17.1% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 0.1% (assuming prevalence as in tests) and less than 2.5% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=South%20Africa for time series data. | 03:48 |
| wizzkid | no fuck man! believe it to be man made and part of the plan to kill off many people and destroy the economy | 03:48 |
| wizzkid | I believe it to be | 03:48 |
| LjL | here we go | 03:49 |
| LjL | well, we don't believe that | 03:49 |
| ryouma | i think the effort to not destroy the economy has been a big problem at least in western countries | 03:49 |
| wizzkid | what do you believe:? | 03:49 |
| ryouma | (i.e. failing to do the right thing to deal with the pandemic) | 03:49 |
| LjL | that it is a virus that evolved naturally in bats and that it jumped species in ways not yet completely ascertained | 03:49 |
| ryouma | there is a lot of lobbying by industries that don't want to be shut down, and some govs respond to that | 03:50 |
| wizzkid | Like the H1N1 virus too? and you also believe the bird flu naturally jumped spwecies? | 03:50 |
| ryouma | if they control the virus enough then the economy will do better long term | 03:50 |
| wizzkid | tell me ..... | 03:50 |
| LjL | yes | 03:51 |
| ryouma | typically that is where viruses come from :) | 03:51 |
| LjL | this is not a channel for "it's all manmade" conspiracy theories | 03:51 |
| LjL | you may seek some other place if that's the kind of people you want to discuss with | 03:51 |
| wizzkid | why then do all of them only ever jump to human l...;. never any other cross speciesa jumping:? | 03:51 |
| ryouma | they do! | 03:51 |
| wizzkid | shit i need to type slower | 03:51 |
| ryouma | cross to other species | 03:51 |
| wizzkid | name one | 03:51 |
| ryouma | all the time | 03:51 |
| ryouma | koala | 03:51 |
| wizzkid | name one | 03:52 |
| ryouma | a retrovirus in koala | 03:52 |
| wizzkid | koala what | 03:52 |
| ryouma | bears | 03:52 |
| wizzkid | what about them | 03:52 |
| ryouma | the ones that eat eucalyptus leaves | 03:52 |
| wizzkid | give me facts | 03:52 |
| ryouma | they are cute | 03:52 |
| ryouma | and they have a retrovirus | 03:52 |
| LjL | wizzkid, of course there are other cross species jumpings, we just don't generally give much of a crap about them, except when it concerns farming animals, in which we DO USE vaccines that uses techniques that are not even approved for humans yet (although they may become approved for COVID) | 03:52 |
| ryouma | ... issue | 03:52 |
| wizzkid | yes that i give you they cute af | 03:52 |
| wizzkid | hahahaha ok so you believe everything they tell you then? | 03:53 |
| LjL | wizzkid, can't you see the obvious bias in your assumption? like, there's been high mortality in elephants somewhere recently. they are researching the reason. they don't know yet, it may be a new disease. they gave the news, you may have heard of it, but you're probably not thinking of it anymore already, because it doesn't affect you, and generally, it barely affects us so it's not being hammered on us every day | 03:53 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Netherlands: +857 cases (now 69044), +11 deaths (now 6226) since 2 hours ago — World: +15909 cases (now 24.4 million), +905 deaths (now 830864) since an hour ago — Peru: +5996 cases (now 613378), +123 deaths (now 28124) since 21 hours ago — Mexico: +5267 cases (now 573888), +626 deaths (now 62076) since 21 hours ago | 03:54 |
| LjL | oh good grief | 03:54 |
| wizzkid | not inter-species | 03:54 |
| LjL | you don't know that | 03:54 |
| LjL | anyway i'm about to ban you, just the ban list is full | 03:54 |
| LjL | so toodles | 03:54 |
| LjL | default banlist length is sure short | 03:55 |
| tinwhiskers | that never looked like it was going to end well :-/ | 03:56 |
| ryouma | "Koala retrovirus (KoRV) is a retrovirus that is present in many populations of koalas. It has been implicated as the agent of koala immune deficiency syndrome (KIDS), an AIDS-like immunodeficiency that leaves infected koalas more susceptible to infectious disease and cancers. The virus is thought to be a recently introduced exogenous virus that is also integrating into the koala genome." | 03:56 |
| ryouma | ftr :) | 03:57 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, yeah, i was way too confrontational towards someone with just skewed views, should ban myself for a while | 03:58 |
| tinwhiskers | hey, I know some people with kids. I feel a bit more sorry for them now. I thought it was self inflicted, not a disease. | 03:58 |
| tinwhiskers | LjL: no, you were fine | 03:58 |
| tinwhiskers | that person just had a malfunctioning brain. | 03:59 |
| LjL | i need one of those scripts that tell me which hostnames are probably dynamic, i think i had one once | 03:59 |
| LjL | or i could just dramatically clear the banlist! nah not really. but anyway some netsplit even removed the dates from bans so i can't tell which ones are older | 04:00 |
| tinwhiskers | it wouldn't hurt *that* much to remove any you don't recognise. They can always be added again if they cause problems, but a lot of the interest has faded now. | 04:01 |
| ryouma | i wonder where he thought viruses came from say in the 1400s and so on | 04:01 |
| tinwhiskers | you never know, some of them may have changed their mind about their old beliefs (lol). | 04:02 |
| LjL | well, that's going to be it for now | 04:02 |
| LjL | if you need to ban someone and the banlist is full, just, you know, pick a random ban and kill it | 04:03 |
| tinwhiskers | ok :-) | 04:03 |
| ryouma | can pick the oldest? | 04:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: New Covid-19 testing guidelines, crafted at the White House, alarm public health experts: The #Covid19 testing guidance was crafted not by the CDC but by the White House coronavirus task force, and the nation’s top infectious disease expert, Anthony Fauci, didn’t sign off… → https://is.gd/grfXOK | 04:04 |
| LjL | ryouma, not easily, almost all of them are dated to 20 july because some server split and that happens | 04:05 |
| ryouma | i don't understand why fauci goes every day. what on earth does he do every day if he is just going to be ignored? | 04:05 |
| ryouma | why is he invitged every day? | 04:05 |
| LjL | i've picked some of the ones that looked like dynamic IPs, and on the opposite end i'm definitely not going to remove any ban on account names | 04:05 |
| LjL | ryouma, because that can't easily get rid of him, afaicu | 04:06 |
| ryouma | so it is pro forma? | 04:06 |
| LjL | i hope someone listens to him *shrug* | 04:07 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Turks and Caicos: +33 cases (now 464), +1 deaths (now 3) since 11 hours ago — World: +805 cases (now 24.4 million), +45 deaths (now 830909) since 20 minutes ago — Honduras: +772 cases (now 56649), +44 deaths (now 1747) since 22 hours ago | 04:09 |
| Tyszka | ryouma, where did fauci go? | 04:11 |
| tinwhiskers | "Fauci says he was in surgery when task force discussed CDC testing guidelines" | 04:13 |
| Tyszka | oh the CDC changed something again, testing or something? | 04:14 |
| Tyszka | oh sorry I see the brainstorm | 04:14 |
| tinwhiskers | well, the white house did | 04:14 |
| LjL | nonono | 04:14 |
| LjL | the CDC did, without any input from the white house | 04:14 |
| LjL | they are adamant about that | 04:14 |
| tinwhiskers | oh | 04:14 |
| LjL | why would you disbelieve them?! | 04:14 |
| tinwhiskers | heh | 04:15 |
| ryouma | will the regular media catch on that lowered testing does not mean fewer cases? or is that not the point -- some media will not catch on because it has similar goals? | 04:16 |
| Tyszka | there is this covid testing web site that is supposed to be independent, now that the CDC isn't https://covidtracking.com/ | 04:16 |
| Tyszka | Dr.Birx seems beyond repair | 04:16 |
| LjL | ryouma, i've found media here to be very passive, at least public TV. there is so little critical journalism | 04:16 |
| LjL | they keep going, every day, "today cases are ramping up again", or "today we have fewer cases" | 04:17 |
| LjL | then they mention the testing | 04:17 |
| LjL | without making the connection, which, really, HAS to be made for some people, made directly | 04:17 |
| Tyszka | as does the Surgeon General | 04:17 |
| ryouma | yeah media also just want to have a story | 04:17 |
| LjL | "today we have fewer cases BUT IT MEANS NOTHING because we tested much less than yesterday, and in fact, we have more cases as a ratio over tests" | 04:17 |
| LjL | that's what they should say, but they don't | 04:17 |
| ryouma | rugh | 04:18 |
| ryouma | right | 04:18 |
| ryouma | (actually cdc was never trustworthy on many diseases; whether it is independent of federal gov to any degree idk. it is located distant from washington, is all.) | 04:18 |
| Tyszka | the feds in my state are doing a "surge" offering 5000 swabs, anyone can be tested, but ...... | 04:18 |
| Tyszka | 3-5 days for results | 04:18 |
| Tyszka | maybe they think it's Iraq, with that 'surge' lingo | 04:19 |
| Tyszka | ryouma, my understanding is the CDC 10 years ago, was credible and important | 04:21 |
| ryouma | that is most publics' understanding | 04:21 |
| Tyszka | ryouma, was there a better alternative? | 04:22 |
| ryouma | what would an alternative do? | 04:22 |
| LjL | that italian WHO representative who said some things about how the WHO has to say and do what members want it to say and do, i think he also mentioned CDC members being part of the WHO and things basically having to be run through them | 04:22 |
| Tyszka | LjL, is there a guess what has happened that test is going down? | 04:22 |
| LjL | so some of the "bad" things the WHO has said, like "don't wear masks", i don't really know if they come from the WHO itself, from the CDC, or from China | 04:22 |
| LjL | or from a combination, possibly, i guess | 04:23 |
| LjL | Tyszka, you mean in the US? | 04:23 |
| Tyszka | yes | 04:23 |
| LjL | well | 04:23 |
| LjL | the CDC has issued new guidelines which entail less testing, but that's very recent | 04:23 |
| LjL | prior to that, Trump had repeatedly said things like "if we tested half as much, we'd have half the cases" | 04:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: California coronavirus testing to double capacity and speed up results → https://is.gd/2Ggjme | 04:24 |
| LjL | i suspect... someone got the message...? | 04:24 |
| LjL | except in California, possibly | 04:24 |
| Tyszka | well these 5000 surge swabs came from the Feds, maybe they were/are hoarding them, for dubious distributions | 04:25 |
| Tyszka | if one is CV+ by 5 days, those with Symptoms will probably have them, but maybe saves a step of confirmation | 04:26 |
| LjL | i'm not so up to speed with what's going on in the US, admittedly | 04:27 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Frightful: Could COVID-19 cancel Halloween? → https://is.gd/w0alsf | 05:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: US Coronavirus: Covid-19 child cases have increased by 21% since early August, new data shows → https://is.gd/NdEALu | 05:12 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Researchers examine concerns that some medications for older adults could be linked with worse outcomes for COVID-19 patients → https://is.gd/JXwfHn | 05:22 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/coronavirus: Fauci says he was in surgery when task force discussed CDC testing guidelines (10123 votes) | https://keyt.com/politics/2020/08/26/fauci-says-he-was-in-surgery-when-task-force-discussed-cdc-testing-guidelines/ | https://redd.it/ih7psp | 05:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Why COVID-19 Patients Lose Their Sense of Smell → https://is.gd/DCEZe2 | 05:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Now Asymptomatic People Don't Need Covid Test After Exposure, Says US → https://is.gd/O0mPls | 05:51 |
| ryouma | a quick skim suggests they are saying the opposite --- 20:22 <Brainstorm> New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Researchers examine concerns that some medications for older adults could be linked with worse outcomes for COVID-19 patients → https://is.gd/JXwfHn | 05:58 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: All Kindergarten Students Quarantined, School Tells Parents in Late-Night Text → https://is.gd/a9lRtK | 06:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: South Korea new cases most since March; Abbott wins U.S. authorization for $5 test → https://is.gd/z0K4YM | 06:20 |
| ryouma | LjL: tinwhiskers thanks for swing states | 06:23 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for South Korea: +441 cases (now 18706), +1 deaths (now 313) since a day ago — World: +4217 cases (now 24.4 million), +11 deaths (now 830920) since 2 hours ago — India: +2485 cases (now 3.3 million) since 5 hours ago — Venezuela: +807 cases (now 41965), +8 deaths (now 351) since a day ago | 06:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: US-China tensions rise with ballistic missile tests, sanctions → https://is.gd/zjId88 | 06:59 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +8958 cases (now 24.4 million) since 41 minutes ago — France: +4527 cases (now 275640) since 3 hours ago — Turks and Caicos Islands, United Kingdom: +81 cases (now 464), +1 deaths (now 3) since 4 days ago — Ukraine: +1704 cases (now 112653), +37 deaths (now 2399) since a day ago | 07:08 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Andhra Pradesh, India: +20757 cases (now 382469), +173 deaths (now 3541) since a day ago — Lazio, Italy: +3844 cases (now 10398) since 13 hours ago — Odisha, India: +3371 cases (now 87602), +13 deaths (now 441) since 15 hours ago — Puglia, Italy: +3230 cases (now 5170) since 13 hours ago | 07:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Over 75,000 COVID-19 Cases In Biggest One-Day Rise In India: 10 Points → https://is.gd/MnYyz9 | 07:47 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Kyrgyzstan: +441 deaths (now 1498) since 53 minutes ago — Mauritius: +6 cases (now 354) since a day ago — World: +147 cases (now 24.4 million), +2 deaths (now 830868) since 37 minutes ago — Uzbekistan: +141 cases (now 40195), +2 deaths (now 295) since an hour ago | 07:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Blood clots: A major problem in severe Covid-19 → https://is.gd/Z24pCn | 07:57 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Teen arrested in connection with Kenosha protests shooting that left two dead → https://is.gd/wDwCRh | 08:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Coronavirus NZ: Mount Roskill Evangelical Fellowship in Auckland exposes hundreds to COVID-19 → https://is.gd/A1ctHs | 08:17 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: (news): Coronavirus: Payment for people on low incomes who must self-isolate → https://is.gd/xULVHq | 08:27 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Feelings: ‘Onam is like an emotion’: Non-resident Keralites miss going home amid the pandemic → https://is.gd/HDS6tM | 09:05 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +5836 cases (now 24.4 million), +47 deaths (now 830915) since an hour ago — India: +4719 cases (now 3.3 million), +23 deaths (now 60652) since 2 hours ago — Hungary: +91 cases (now 5379) since 17 hours ago — US: +652 cases (now 6.0 million), +10 deaths (now 183663) since 5 hours ago | 09:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Coronavirus live blog: India records highest daily case tally, passes 60,000 deaths → https://is.gd/Hrz79J | 09:25 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: (news): Coronavirus: Payment for people on low incomes who must self-isolate → https://is.gd/xULVHq | 09:35 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Insect repellent ingredient may protect against novel coronavirus, UK study finds → https://is.gd/xLhT69 | 10:23 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Indonesia: +2719 cases (now 162884), +120 deaths (now 7064) since 18 hours ago — World: +10944 cases (now 24.4 million), +355 deaths (now 831270) since an hour ago — Russia: +4711 cases (now 975576), +121 deaths (now 16804) since 18 hours ago — Philippines: +3220 cases (now 205581), +97 deaths (now 3234) since 18 hours ago | 10:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Trump has launched an all-out attack on the FDA. Will its scientific integrity survive?: The FDA’s new spokeswoman is a political operative and a gun-rights advocate — just the latest in a series of recent Trump administration moves to undercut the agency amid Covid-19. → https://is.gd/jzxNeh | 10:42 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: (news): Coronavirus: Payment for people on low incomes who must self-isolate → https://is.gd/xULVHq | 10:52 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Spanish PM calls on 'all citizens' to download coronavirus tracking app Radar Covid → https://is.gd/2YKUb4 | 11:11 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: The First Repeat Covid-19 Infection Case Isn’t All Bad News → https://is.gd/QkcC13 | 11:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: UK flu jab rates prompt complacency warning: Experts fear the winter flu season could coincide with a rise in Covid-19 infections. → https://is.gd/9UI3Kq | 11:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Malaysia : Just 5 new cases - 2 imported, 3 local cases (all in Melaka state) → https://is.gd/MjSeYD | 12:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from ProPublica: Las empresas empacadoras de carne ignoraron las advertencias durante años, pero ahora dicen que nadie habría podido prepararse para COVID-19: por Michael Grabell y Bernice Yeung ProPublica es un medio independiente y sin ánimo de lucro que produce periodismo de investigación en pro del interés público. Suscríbete para [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/0voPGQ | 12:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: (news): Coronavirus: Payment for people on low incomes who must self-isolate → https://is.gd/xULVHq | 12:19 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Romania: +1504 cases (now 83150), +38 deaths (now 3459) since 20 hours ago — World: +7483 cases (now 24.5 million), +219 deaths (now 831489) since 2 hours ago — Bangladesh: +2436 cases (now 304583), +45 deaths (now 4127) since 20 hours ago — Iran: +2190 cases (now 367796), +117 deaths (now 21137) since 20 hours ago | 12:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Health: Activity planning is key to mastering mental health during COVID-19: Assocham → https://is.gd/44PeYz | 12:29 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Coronavirus: Self-isolation payment for low-income workers: The benefit will be trialled in some parts of north-west England where coronavirus cases have risen. → https://is.gd/xULVHq | 12:58 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Nepal: +1111 cases (now 35529), +8 deaths (now 183) since 20 hours ago — World: +1642 cases (now 24.5 million), +8 deaths (now 831497) since an hour ago — Switzerland: +361 cases (now 41006) since 20 hours ago — India: +64 cases (now 3.3 million) since 3 hours ago | 13:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus*: Coronavirus: Messaging about Covid-19 has changed too much and too often, quickly evolving from “flatten the curve” to something very different, so Americans aren't listening → https://is.gd/V7UiF0 | 13:18 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Palestine: +522 cases (now 20677), +4 deaths (now 141) since 12 hours ago — World: +524 cases (now 24.5 million), +4 deaths (now 831501) since 24 minutes ago — Vietnam: +2 cases (now 1036) since 6 hours ago | 13:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Coronavirus: Self-isolation payment for low-income workers: The benefit will be trialled in some parts of north-west England where coronavirus cases have risen. → https://is.gd/xULVHq | 13:47 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): South Korea new cases most since March; Abbott wins U.S. authorization for $5 test → https://is.gd/z0K4YM | 14:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): WHO says children do play a role in coronavirus spread, but schools are not a 'main contributor' → https://is.gd/rfRSaj | 14:17 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Coronavirus: Self-isolation payment for low-income workers: The benefit will be trialled in some parts of north-west England where coronavirus cases have risen. → https://is.gd/xULVHq | 14:26 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: WHO warns Europe faces ‘tricky moment’ as summer turns to fall → https://is.gd/YpDou3 | 14:36 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Two metres or one: what is the evidence for physical distancing in covid-19? (80 votes) | https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3223 | https://redd.it/ih3tcw | 14:48 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Flu: Why we still need to worry about it this winter: Drive-through vaccination clinics and extra staff are being considered for England's biggest flu vaccination programme. → https://is.gd/oBKFws | 14:55 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: Rite Aid CEO warns that 'flu and Covid is not going to be a pretty picture' this fall: Rite Aid's Heyward Donigan also urged Americans to get flu shots this fall, saying increased vaccinations can help eliminate public-health confusion. → https://is.gd/3Nsrn2 | 15:15 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Coronavirus: Self-isolation payment for low-income workers: The benefit will be trialled in some parts of north-west England where coronavirus cases have risen. → https://is.gd/xULVHq | 15:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Pharma: STAT Plus: Pharmalittle: Trump launches a crusade against the FDA; Europe signs Covid-19 vaccine deal with AstraZeneca → https://is.gd/EqCJXh | 15:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: WHO warns Europe faces ‘tricky moment’ as summer turns to fall → https://is.gd/YpDou3 | 15:44 |
| Jigsy | %cases world | 16:16 |
| Brainstorm | Jigsy: In World, there have been 24.5 million confirmed cases (0.3% of the population) and 831918 deaths (3.4% of cases) as of 13 minutes ago. 500.0 million tests were performed (4.9% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 0.2% (assuming prevalence as in tests) and less than 4.7% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=World for time series data. | 16:16 |
| Jigsy | %cases UK | 16:16 |
| Jigsy | I was under the impression Fall started the moment Spring ended... | 16:16 |
| ubLIX | LjL: the "Two metres or one.." BMJ article linked above might fit as addendum to specops' "Airborne transmission.." link | 16:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Watch live: The World Health Organization holds a press briefing on the coronavirus pandemic → https://is.gd/3msnBo | 16:42 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): CDC defends controversial new guidance for coronavirus testing: 'Everyone who wants a test does not necessarily need a test' → https://is.gd/VMnMEH | 16:52 |
| Jigsy | %cases UK | 16:56 |
| Brainstorm | Jigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 328846 confirmed cases (0.5% of the population) and 45712 deaths (13.9% of cases) as of 4 hours ago. 18.3 million tests were performed (1.8% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data. | 16:56 |
| Jigsy | Eh. | 16:57 |
| Jigsy | It was 329,000ish last night. | 16:57 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: WHO warns Europe faces ‘tricky moment’ as summer turns to fall → https://is.gd/YpDou3 | 17:11 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: Routine cleaning and disinfecting leaves no trace of coronavirus on surfaces in hospital clinic, study finds: The samples were collected at the oncology facility during the height of the New Jersey's outbreak. None of the samples returned positive for the coronaviurs, the study found. → https://is.gd/QrQJS1 | 17:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from BMJ: Doctors’ pay rise: don’t be deceived, it’s not for covid-19: The proposed pay rise for doctors and other medical staff in England and Wales1 is not what it seems.Alongside the entire NHS workforce, I have worked hard on the covid-19 frontline, managing “the... → https://is.gd/eBIc2Y | 17:31 |
| LjL | Jigsy, that's interesting... even if they made an adjustment downwards, Brainstorm's code is supposed to reject data that's going down | 17:39 |
| LjL | Aug 27 12:24:16 ljlbox poetry[210733]: covid/covid (Thread-8): Data error: for 'cases' in 'United Kingdom', 328846 is less than 329898 | 17:40 |
| Jigsy | [01:51:01] <@Brainstorm> Jigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 329350 confirmed cases (0.5% of t... | 17:40 |
| Jigsy | That was this morning. | 17:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Senators press labs over test delays; WHO says schools aren't main contributor to spread → https://is.gd/YpDou3 | 17:40 |
| LjL | i know, i have logs too | 17:41 |
| LjL | something in the code is wonky | 17:41 |
| LjL | i've made a change, it shouldn't do that anymore now | 17:43 |
| LjL | however the data source simply had higher data yesterday, then it was adjusted | 17:43 |
| LjL | i can't "fix" that, what i can do is prevent any change downwards | 17:43 |
| Brainstorm | New from Gazzetta Ufficiale italiana: COMITATO INTERMINISTERIALE PER LA PROGRAMMAZIONE ECONOMICA - DELIBERA 14 maggio 2020: Operazioni e rischi assicurabili per operazioni approvate da SACES.p.a. nel corso dell'anno 2019 e garantibili dallo Stato ai sensidell'articolo 2 comma 2 del decreto-legge 8 aprile 2020, n. 23 edella delibera CIPE [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/C5fMq9 | 18:00 |
| LjL | unsurprisingly, there is a political mess in Italy about reopening schools (which will happen on 14 September) | 18:00 |
| LjL | today's new bit is that schoolmates will be considered as relatives for the purposes of filling public transport, meaning they won't have to respect 1m distance from one another | 18:00 |
| LjL | it's pretty obvious that the current limitations on public transport capacity cannot allow students to get to school... | 18:01 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +84382 cases (now 24.5 million), +1523 deaths (now 833024) since 4 hours ago — India: +62891 cases (now 3.4 million), +994 deaths (now 61646) since 5 hours ago — US: +11203 cases (now 6.0 million), +247 deaths (now 183924) since 7 hours ago — Marche, Italy: +61 cases (now 7194) since 10 hours ago | 18:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Senators press labs over test delays; WHO says schools aren't main contributor to spread → https://is.gd/YpDou3 | 18:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Lifestyle: No boat race, no Athachamayam: How Kerala is celebrating Onam amid pandemic → https://is.gd/7vD0hX | 18:19 |
| LjL | oh snap, so now we know that schools are the main contributor to spread | 18:21 |
| Jigsy | Here in the UK... | 18:25 |
| Jigsy | "kiDs Can'T geT cOVId-19 as bADly aS adultS." | 18:25 |
| Jigsy | 3>17 teachers in Scotland contract COVID-19 | 18:25 |
| Jigsy | From two students. | 18:25 |
| LjL | it's funny how "don't usually" turns into "can't" so often | 18:26 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: Routine cleaning and disinfecting leaves no trace of coronavirus on surfaces in hospital clinic, study finds: The samples were collected at the oncology facility during the height of the New Jersey's outbreak. None of the samples returned positive for the coronavirus, the study found. → https://is.gd/QrQJS1 | 18:29 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Health: CDC director attempts to clarify controversial Covid-19 testing guidelines → https://is.gd/BCGlXx | 18:38 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Italy: +1409 cases (now 263949), +5 deaths (now 35463) since 17 hours ago — Lebanon: +689 cases (now 14937), +7 deaths (now 146) since 17 hours ago — World: +17335 cases (now 24.6 million), +372 deaths (now 833396) since 38 minutes ago — Brazil: +8601 cases (now 3.7 million), +207 deaths (now 117996) since 38 minutes ago | 18:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: Routine cleaning and disinfecting leaves no trace of coronavirus on surfaces in hospital clinic, study finds: The samples were collected at the oncology facility during the height of the New Jersey's outbreak. None of the samples returned positive for the coronavirus, the study found. → https://is.gd/QrQJS1 | 18:48 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Thoughts On a New Coronavirus Test (And on Testing) (81 votes) | https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/08/27/thoughts-on-a-new-coronavirus-test-and-on-testing | https://redd.it/ihljfp | 18:50 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): CDC defends controversial new guidance for coronavirus testing: 'Everyone who wants a test does not necessarily need a test' → https://is.gd/VMnMEH | 18:58 |
| Brainstorm | New from Ars Technica: Tech: LG’s battery-powered face mask will “make breathing effortless” → https://is.gd/LfvlQc | 19:07 |
| LJ_cache | %case British Columbia | 19:13 |
| LJ_cache | %cases British Columbia | 19:13 |
| Brainstorm | LJ_cache: In British Columbia, Canada, there have been 5304 confirmed cases (0.1% of the population) and 203 deaths (3.8% of cases) as of 12 hours ago. 53505 tests were performed (9.9% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=British%20Columbia for time series data. | 19:13 |
| LJ_cache | %cases Ontario | 19:14 |
| Brainstorm | LJ_cache: In Ontario, Canada, there have been 43658 confirmed cases (0.3% of the population) and 2848 deaths (6.5% of cases) as of 12 hours ago. 103865 tests were performed (42.0% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Ontario for time series data. | 19:14 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Adiposity is the Crucial Enhancer of COVID-19 (81 votes) | https://cardiologyres.org/index.php/Cardiologyres/article/view/1118/1127 | https://redd.it/ihkn6b | 19:14 |
| LJ_cache | %cases Quebec | 19:15 |
| Brainstorm | LJ_cache: In Quebec, Canada, there have been 61945 confirmed cases (0.8% of the population) and 5747 deaths (9.3% of cases) as of 12 hours ago. 126771 tests were performed (48.9% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 0.1% (assuming prevalence as in tests) and less than 9.5% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Quebec for time series data. | 19:15 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): CDC defends controversial new guidance for coronavirus testing: 'Everyone who wants a test does not necessarily need a test' → https://is.gd/VMnMEH | 19:17 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/coronavirus: Messaging about Covid-19 has changed too much and too often, quickly evolving from “flatten the curve” to something very different, so Americans aren't listening (10174 votes) | https://www.statnews.com/2020/08/26/covid-19-messaging-is-wrong-americans-arent-listening/ | https://redd.it/ihixj5 | 19:26 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Coronavirus: Daily cases highest since mid-June: The number of new positive test results has risen to 1,522 in the past 24 hours. → https://is.gd/ND2OVC | 19:56 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Abbott Labs' $5 rapid test gets approval; 5 states paying $300 unemployment boost → https://is.gd/YpDou3 | 20:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Trump to announce $750 million deal with Abbott for at least 150 million rapid coronavirus tests → https://is.gd/IqKOvT | 20:25 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Abbott Labs' $5 rapid test gets approval; 5 states paying $300 unemployment boost → https://is.gd/YpDou3 | 20:44 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Vitamin D and COVID-19 infection and mortality in UK Biobank (82 votes) | https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00394-020-02372-4 | https://redd.it/ihkd6b | 20:51 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): CDC defends controversial new guidance for coronavirus testing: 'Everyone who wants a test does not necessarily need a test' → https://is.gd/VMnMEH | 21:14 |
| LjL | that vitamin D study is stupid and one of the comments on reddit says why | 21:17 |
| LjL | they actually *found* a correlation but it went away after account for confounders, but they were only looking at vitamin D levels between 2006 and 2010 | 21:17 |
| LjL | doesn't seem very helpful, especially since once known low, those would have been treated | 21:18 |
| LjL | it seems unlikely a D deficiency ten years ago, which was probably treated, contributes to COVID now... *and yet* contrary to their stated conclusion, they find at least a hint of correlation | 21:18 |
| LjL | i hope it's not the kind of study that's only published to stop people from hoarding the product | 21:19 |
| de-facto | Trying to write summary with case distinction for R: R>1: Epidemic, R=1: Endemic, R<1: <word i am searching for exponential decay> | 21:40 |
| de-facto | what is the correct word for describing the exponential decay if reproduction number R < 1? | 21:40 |
| de-facto | surely not "anti-Epidemic" or such LOL | 21:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Abbott Labs' $5 rapid test gets approval; 5 states paying $300 unemployment boost → https://is.gd/YpDou3 | 21:52 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Immigration status, housing, and food-service work explain Covid-19’s burden on Latinos: Being a recent immigrant, living in a household with a large number of people, and working in food service were the biggest predictors of Covid-19 infection, according to a new… → https://is.gd/ZwW19s | 22:02 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Obesity is a major risk factor for COVID-19 complications (80 votes) | https://sph.unc.edu/sph-news/obesity-is-a-major-risk-factor-for-covid-19-complications/ | https://redd.it/ihdi3g | 22:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Coronavirus: Daily cases highest since mid-June: The number of new positive test results has risen to 1,522 in the past 24 hours. → https://is.gd/ND2OVC | 22:12 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health: (news): Trump to announce $750 million deal with Abbott for at least 150 million rapid coronavirus tests → https://is.gd/IqKOvT | 22:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: The New York Times: Top U.S. Officials Told C.D.C. to Soften Coronavirus Testing Guidelines. → https://is.gd/3Df00f | 23:10 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +100063 cases (now 24.7 million), +1618 deaths (now 835014) since 5 hours ago — Brazil: +30369 cases (now 3.8 million), +653 deaths (now 118649) since 5 hours ago — Spain: +24974 cases (now 451792), +25 deaths (now 28996) since 22 hours ago — US: +21880 cases (now 6.0 million), +475 deaths (now 184434) since 5 hours ago | 23:35 |
| LjL | spain what? | 23:35 |
| LjL | Spain numbers are very dubious all over the place, i can't find a place that has numbers that make some sense | 23:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from Ars Technica: Science: FDA: Please, don’t drink hand sanitizer—even if it’s sold in… a beer can? → https://is.gd/xiqmXl | 23:39 |
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