libera/##covid-19/ Sunday, 2020-08-30

ryoumayou can apply that question now.  why didn't the measures get applied strictly earlier thus being good for both economy and health?00:00
de-factothats a very good question.00:00
ryoumalong covid will be said to not exist or not be severe.  already beginning in uk.00:00
de-facto“The only real mistake is the one from which we learn nothing.” – Henry Ford.00:02
LjLthis is nonsense up with which i will not put00:03
LjLArsanerit, tinwhiskers: in Italy the current median age of the patients is said to be 30, they actually said 29 today. it was over 60 in the first wave. if this is similar in other countries, then i have little surprise seeing fewer hospitalizations. but let's not forget the virus has evidence of being harmful to most people.00:05
tinwhiskersyes, it can harm all age groups at varying rates. Nobody is safe.00:06
de-factothats a very important point, if the young will raise the prevalence they also do raise the probability of the pathogen to diffuse through contacts to the elderly and vulnerable00:06
tinwhiskerswhich is the nonsense up with what you will not put?00:07
tinwhiskers*which00:07
ryoumai am concerned about hte school year having started00:09
ryoumathat seems to be possible causing spikes00:09
ryoumay00:09
de-factowhat are the conditions for school openings in USA? which measures are implemented to prevent contagion?00:11
de-factodo they observe the impact of school openings with widespread testing?00:11
de-factoi guess thats only possible at the transition from closed to opened schools00:12
de-factodo they all open at once or one by one to observe the impact?00:13
de-facto*each individual impact00:14
ryoumaidk.  but there are 50 states and many things are done at the state level.00:16
ryouma(plus various other jurisdictions)00:16
de-factoare they fully opening right now?00:17
ryoumaidk00:17
ryoumai am referring to all levels of education00:24
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Coronavirus update: Infections rise to more than 1,000 on University of Alabama campus → https://is.gd/UUaCa900:30
LjLtinwhiskers, just the grammar of that quote "The only real mistake is the one from which we learn nothing"00:32
tinwhiskersahhhh00:32
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: South Carolina Reports More Than 1K New Coronavirus Cases → https://is.gd/tUkNAc00:40
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Teachers who are resigning and retiring across the U.S. blame remote learning frustrations, COVID-19 concerns → https://is.gd/c6m9R900:49
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Covid warning as a million students set for uni return: Sending more than a million students back to university could spark second Covid wave, say lecturers. → https://is.gd/dHBgTH01:19
ryoumaLjL: oh01:41
ryoumai don't find from which problematic though01:42
ryoumai don't find learn from problematic either01:42
ryoumanothing*01:42
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: More than loss of taste and smell: burning watering eyes in coronavirus disease 19 (COVID-19) (82 votes) | https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1198743X20305012 | https://redd.it/iiwpxl01:45
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: India sets grim world record with 79k fresh cases in a day → https://is.gd/KW9gMw01:48
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Belarus government yanks accreditation’s of foreign media journalists covering protests → https://is.gd/jtblLU01:58
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Florida Department of Health claims number of COVID-19 cases in schools is confidential → https://is.gd/jmDgrt02:17
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: India passes coronavirus milestone: The largest number of daily cases in the world → https://is.gd/knbGUJ02:27
LjLryouma, "from which" is just a thing that wouldn't exist in English if it weren't for some weirdo Latinate grammarians in past centuries deciding that since Latin couldn't do dangling prepositions, then neither should English02:31
LjLcompared to the way we say things in Italian (which is the same as Latin in this case), dangling prepositions are just swifter and more expressive, but no, let's do away with them! heathens! pfffft02:31
ryoumai am familiar with this.  but in this particular case as a native speaker in at least one register of at least one dialect, it does not feel that stilted.02:36
ryoumaum, as a native speaker, ... i don't find it....02:36
LjLfair enough02:36
LjLit just annoys me because of what i said02:36
LjLi guess there are more important things02:36
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Illinois State University reports 102 more COVID-19 cases; total tops 500 → https://is.gd/ZF2K6t02:37
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Doctors at main Jakarta hospital for Covid-19 turning away patients in droves as cases soar → https://is.gd/YSzV6G03:06
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: 141 inmates at Blount County jail test positive for COVID-19 → https://is.gd/k26fxY03:26
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: With coronavirus almost behind it, China turns its attention to economic recovery with its answer to Oktoberfest → https://is.gd/2HFtGI03:46
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: The coronavirus is most deadly if you are older and male — new data reveal the risks (82 votes) | https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02483-2 | https://redd.it/iizwuo03:46
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Texas reports 4,732 new coronavirus cases, 154 new deaths → https://is.gd/Eu27lG04:05
ryoumamen are about twice as likely to die as women (hadn't gottne stats on that one)04:07
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Tocilizumab shortens time on mechanical ventilation and length of hospital stay in patients with severe COVID‐19: a retrospective cohort study (80 votes) | https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/joim.13162 | https://redd.it/iiltxf04:34
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Kentucky reports 825 new COVID-19 cases Saturday. Cases up in Lexington, among UK students. → https://is.gd/iG34hv04:34
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: CDC- finds for 6% of COVID-19 deaths, the virus was the only cause mentioned. For all others there was an average of 2.6 comorbidities → https://is.gd/3I6eGP04:44
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: University of Alabama orders faculty to keep quiet about outbreak → https://is.gd/KTEWzy05:33
Jigsy%cases UK05:41
BrainstormUpdates for World: +86116 cases (now 25.3 million), +2232 deaths (now 847910) since 7 hours ago — Brazil: +27888 cases (now 3.8 million), +473 deaths (now 120498) since 7 hours ago — US: +13171 cases (now 6.1 million), +154 deaths (now 186855) since 7 hours ago — Peru: +9474 cases (now 639435), +136 deaths (now 28607) since a day ago05:41
BrainstormJigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 333556 confirmed cases (0.5% of the population) and 45712 deaths (13.7% of cases) as of 6 minutes ago. 18.3 million tests were performed (1.8% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data.05:41
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Colorado lists 20 virus cases from Sturgis motorcycle rally → https://is.gd/LPlB8L05:52
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Berlin protest against coronavirus restrictions turns violent, 200 arrested → https://is.gd/DevdMj06:22
ryoumacertain revelations about state influence on social media and so on have me really really spooked.  is it crazy to imagine that it is possible that such protests are actually incited or amplified by states that want to destabilize a country or something?06:28
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Surge in South Korea coronavirus cases fans hospital bed shortage concerns → https://is.gd/X2LScC06:41
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: "For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned" - Seeing this CDC reference float around (CDC source linked). People are interpreting that it means only 6% of the 180k deaths were COVID related, what does it actually mean? → https://is.gd/6oANqJ06:51
the-wesit means that in 94% of cases, people had some other thing going on that contributed to their death06:52
the-westhings like lung or heart diseases, or excessive weight06:53
ryoumawhich could be pre-existing, latent, or caused by covid07:06
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Sinovac's Coronavirus Vaccine Candidate Approved for Emergency Use in China - Source → https://is.gd/4aDVGq07:20
the-wesyup. coincidentally, we have no data on those details07:26
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: China's efforts to cut food waste put dinner tables under the government's watchful eye: A call from Beijing to reduce food waste has sent officials and businesses scrambling to find ways to stop people from ordering too much, and in some extreme cases put meal times under surveillance → https://is.gd/fgR9H107:40
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: Teachers who are resigning and retiring across the U.S. blame remote learning frustrations, COVID-19 concerns (10092 votes) | https://www.newsweek.com/teachers-resigning-across-us-cite-remote-learning-frustrations-covid-19-concerns-1528553 | https://redd.it/ij18dx07:53
yuriwhothe mystery of the long-haulers is fascinating07:54
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: FDA ousts spokeswoman after Covid-19 therapy misstatements → https://is.gd/0wKxbr07:59
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Coronavirus Global Updates, August 30: China records 14th straight day without any local transmission → https://is.gd/8YhKnW08:28
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Covid warning as a million students set for uni return: Sending more than a million students back to university could spark second Covid wave, say lecturers. → https://is.gd/dHBgTH08:38
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Under-25s bearing brunt of Covid mental-health toll → https://is.gd/Dk9ZRk09:08
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: India sets global record with single-day rise in coronavirus cases → https://is.gd/T9BGo909:17
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Global coronavirus cases go past 25 million: Live news → https://is.gd/PJv2ZF09:27
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Coronavirus: University return 'could spark Covid avalanche': Lecturers say cases may soar as students move in, but the government says institutions are prepared. → https://is.gd/dHBgTH09:47
Haley[mt][m]%cases USA10:27
BrainstormUpdates for Chhattisgarh, India: +1513 cases (now 28746), +11 deaths (now 262) since a day ago — North Dakota, US: +374 cases (now 11484), +2 deaths (now 141) since a day ago — World: +18077 cases (now 25.3 million), +187 deaths (now 848097) since 4 hours ago — Maharashtra, India: +16286 cases (now 764281), +328 deaths (now 24103) since a day ago10:27
BrainstormHaley[mt][m]: In US, there have been 6.1 million confirmed cases (1.9% of the population) and 186857 deaths (3.0% of cases) as of 10 minutes ago. 81.1 million tests were performed (7.6% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 0.7% (assuming prevalence as in tests) and less than 5.2% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data.10:27
Haley[mt][m]%cases france10:28
BrainstormHaley[mt][m]: In France, there have been 288739 confirmed cases (0.4% of the population) and 30602 deaths (10.6% of cases) as of 4 hours ago. 6.2 million tests were performed (4.7% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=France for time series data.10:28
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: How the race for a Covid-19 vaccine is getting dirty → https://is.gd/OPzdzi10:36
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: COVID-19 exposure warnings issued for 9 more B.C. flights → https://is.gd/NrBmNh10:46
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Coronavirus: University return 'could spark Covid avalanche': Lecturers say cases may soar as students move in, but ministers insist institutions are prepared. → https://is.gd/dHBgTH11:05
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Global virus cases cross 25 million as India sets grim record: Global coronavirus infections soared past 25 million on Sunday, as countries around the world further tightened restrictions to try to stop the rampaging pandemic. → https://is.gd/2dAS7Q11:15
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Brazil surpasses 120,000 COVID deaths: Just over six months after registering its first case of the new coronavirus, Brazil crossed the grim threshold of 120,000 people killed by COVID-19 Saturday, with no end in sight to the crisis. → https://is.gd/lryaqZ11:25
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Victoria anti-lockdown protesters terrorise police → https://is.gd/D1oQX711:54
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Coronavirus: University return 'could spark Covid avalanche': Lecturers say cases may soar as students move in, but ministers insist institutions are prepared. → https://is.gd/dHBgTH12:04
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Disappearance of Kim Jong-un’s sister ominous sign of brutal power play → https://is.gd/4HVoFd12:44
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Exercise May Boost Your Vaccine Response → https://is.gd/crTRBj12:54
Haley[mt][m]%cases india13:06
BrainstormHaley[mt][m]: In India, there have been 3.5 million confirmed cases (0.3% of the population) and 63690 deaths (1.8% of cases) as of 5 minutes ago. 41.5 million tests were performed (8.6% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=India for time series data.13:06
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: When will a Covid-19 vaccine be ready in the UK? Latest updates from around the world → https://is.gd/qpAxxI13:15
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Mutated Coronavirus Strain Found In Indonesia As Cases Jump → https://is.gd/fLJn9513:25
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Coronavirus: University return 'could spark Covid avalanche': Lecturers say cases may soar as students move in, but ministers insist institutions are prepared. → https://is.gd/dHBgTH13:35
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Swimming Is One Thing in The Pandemic. The Crowd at The Beach Is Something Else → https://is.gd/9ivgVY14:06
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Investigation: African migrants 'left to die' in Saudi Arabia’s hellish Covid detention centres → https://is.gd/k56Ush14:26
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Farmworkers to receive Hispanic Heritage Award for their 'heroic' service amid coronavirus → https://is.gd/ayKda014:37
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Coronavirus: University return 'could spark Covid avalanche': Lecturers say cases may soar as students move in, but ministers insist institutions are prepared. → https://is.gd/dHBgTH14:58
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: COVID-19 Update: FDA Broadens Emergency Use Authorization for Veklury (remdesivir) to Include All Hospitalized Patients for Treatment of COVID-19 (80 votes) | https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/covid-19-update-fda-broadens-emergency-use-authorization-veklury-remdesivir-include-all-hospitalized | https://redd.it/iix5ff15:26
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express (Health): Food & Wine: Amid pandemic, KFC temporarily drops ‘Finger Lickin’ Good’ tagline → https://is.gd/y4XLMm15:39
Jigsy%cases UK15:45
BrainstormUpdates for Nepal: +1221 cases (now 38561), +14 deaths (now 221) since 23 hours ago — World: +40497 cases (now 25.3 million), +673 deaths (now 848770) since 5 hours ago — India: +19850 cases (now 3.6 million), +174 deaths (now 63864) since 5 hours ago — Philippines: +4265 cases (now 217396), +101 deaths (now 3520) since a day ago15:45
BrainstormJigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 332752 confirmed cases (0.5% of the population) and 45712 deaths (13.7% of cases) as of 10 minutes ago. 18.3 million tests were performed (1.8% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data.15:45
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Persistent heterogeneity not short-term overdispersion determines herd immunity to COVID-19 → https://is.gd/eisFze16:10
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Sunlight ultraviolet radiation dose is negatively correlated with the percent positive of SARS-CoV-2 and four other common human coronaviruses in the U.S. (82 votes) | https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0048969720353456?via%3Dihub | https://redd.it/ijak4v16:26
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: Global coronavirus cases surpass 25 million as pandemic strains nations around the world: The number of reported Covid-19 cases across the globe have surpassed 25 million, with the U.S., Brazil and India leading the total count, according to data from Johns Hopkins University. → https://is.gd/QNhq5C16:29
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: FDA willing to fast track coronavirus vaccine before phase three trials are completed: The chief of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration told the Financial Times that he is willing to bypass the standard approval process in order to make a Covid-19 vaccine available as soon as possible. → https://is.gd/2BbbKB16:59
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: The 6-foot rule is 'outdated': Researchers devise chart to gauge COVID risk → https://is.gd/ixRrMd17:28
SpecLjL-Matrix: ^17:31
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Coronavirus: University return 'could spark Covid avalanche': Lecturers say cases may soar as students move in, but ministers insist institutions are prepared. → https://is.gd/dHBgTH17:48
BrainstormNew from Scientific American: Health: Do-it-Yourself Vaccines for COVID-19 → https://is.gd/8EZ3tJ18:07
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Coronavirus: University return 'could spark Covid avalanche': Lecturers say cases may soar as students move in, but ministers insist institutions are prepared. → https://is.gd/dHBgTH18:17
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: FDA willing to fast track coronavirus vaccine before phase three trials end: The chief of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration told the Financial Times that he is willing to bypass the standard approval process in order to make a Covid-19 vaccine available as soon as possible. → https://is.gd/2BbbKB18:37
LjLbad news disguised as good in Italy today18:47
LjLnumbers are going down, but that's just because it's Sunday... tests are also less than yesterday, and when you look at the ratios the numbers are actually a fair bit worse than yesterday18:47
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Coronavirus: University return 'could spark Covid avalanche': Lecturers say cases may soar as students move in, but ministers insist institutions are prepared. → https://is.gd/dHBgTH18:56
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: North Carolina COVID-19 cases increase by more than 1,000 on Sunday → https://is.gd/74OJnT19:26
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: CDC guidance to not test asymptomatic people for coronavirus is 'unfortunate' and unlikely to be followed, Gottlieb says: Earlier this month, the CDC quietly revised its guidance on Covid-19 testing and dropped its previous recommendation to test everyone who's come into close contact with an infected person. → https://is.gd/RYZecb19:56
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: Global coronavirus cases surpass 25 million as pandemic strains nations around the world: The number of reported Covid-19 cases across the globe have surpassed 25 million, with the U.S., Brazil and India leading the total count, according to data from Johns Hopkins University. → https://is.gd/QNhq5C20:26
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: "For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned." 94% of COVID-19 deaths had pre-existing conditions. → https://is.gd/269zhf20:55
LjLyes, on my death certificate it will say i had COVID *and* some generalized anxiety disorder21:00
tinwhiskerscovid and pneumonia21:07
LjLtinwhiskers, yes that appears to be what they really mean. i've reported the post as "edited title", although honestly that subreddit is a bit useless if you want to *elaborate* on anything rather than just post a link with its original title21:17
Chromanin!covid lbanon21:20
CoronaBot,01[ERR] Country/state not found!21:20
Chromanin!covid Lebanon21:20
CoronaBotLebanon: Global rank: #78, cases: 16,870 (+595), fatalities: 160 (+5), active cases: 12,017, total recovered: 4,693, in a serious condition: 93. Mortality: 0.95%, case fatality rate: 3.30%, cases/1M: 2473.0, deaths/1M: 23.0. Case rate: 662/24h, death rate: 7/24h. Tests: 520,110, tests/1M: 76,259.21:20
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: India reports 79,457 new cases of coronavirus, biggest one-day increase for any country since the pandemic began → https://is.gd/v6cY7p21:25
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: Coronavirus cases surpass 25 million as pandemic strains nations around the world: The number of reported Covid-19 cases across the globe have surpassed 25 million, with the U.S., Brazil and India leading the total count, according to data from Johns Hopkins University. → https://is.gd/QNhq5C21:35
tinwhiskersLooks like Vietnam has just about got their July outbreak under control again.21:39
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: Investigation: African migrants 'left to die' in Saudi Arabia’s hellish Covid detention centres (10099 votes) | https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/climate-and-people/investigation-african-migrants-left-die-saudi-arabias-hellish/ | https://redd.it/ijbiw721:46
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Fad or future? Telehealth expansion eyed beyond pandemic: Telehealth is a bit of American ingenuity that seems to have paid off in the coronavirus pandemic. Medicare  temporarily waived restrictions predating the smartphone era and now there's a push to make telemedicine widely available in the future. → https://is.gd/l3P7Ky21:54
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Australian greenhouse gas emissions fall to lowest level since 1998 under Covid restrictions → https://is.gd/TgjEfY22:53
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: U.S. tops 6 million coronavirus cases as nation continues to struggle with pandemic → https://is.gd/YWWIJ923:03
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: NY hits new high in coronavirus testing as daily caseloads remain low → https://is.gd/OD3ve223:23

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