libera/##covid-19/ Monday, 2020-09-28

BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Grocers Stockpile, Build ‘Pandemic Pallets’ Ahead of Winter Resurgence of Covid-19 cases and the impending holiday rush prompt retailers to sideline lean-inventory strategies → https://is.gd/teklZr00:05
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Development Minister Müller: "Far more people will die from the consequences of the lockdown than from the virus" → https://is.gd/wDfPxt00:15
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Furin Inhibitors Block SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein Cleavage to Suppress Virus Production and Cytopathic Effects (80 votes) | https://www.cell.com/cell-reports/fulltext/S2211-1247(20)31243-2 | https://redd.it/j0w7it00:44
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Positive COVID-19 test rates top 25% in some U.S. Midwest states → https://is.gd/Xh2w3300:46
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: In Brazil's Amazon a COVID-19 resurgence dashes herd immunity hopes → https://is.gd/d5wqqY00:56
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Susceptibility to SARS-CoV-2 Infection Among Children and Adolescents Compared With Adults (81 votes) | https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2771181 | https://redd.it/j0ui2l00:57
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Childhood vaccinations, preventative care sharply decline during pandemic: study → https://is.gd/cPjDo301:27
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: New Yorkers With ‘Long-Haul’ Symptoms Are Upending the Narrative About COVID-19 → https://is.gd/drQk0T01:37
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Coronavirus: Up to £10,000 fine for failure to self-isolate in England → https://is.gd/jv5Jeb01:47
rmonten[m]<Brainstorm "New from r/Coronavirus: Coronavi"> That answers that question...01:49
ryoumalong covid article shows predictable trajectory.  they are "hopeful" that insurance copmanies will cover etc.  those who have similar diseases have been "hopeful" for many years.  1955 outbreak (still sick), 1980s m.e. outbreaks ("), chronic lyme, gulf war (whistleblower confirmed they had policy to pretend it was all in their heads), etc.  these poor sweet summer children are in for a long long battle.  however, th01:53
ryoumaey are making progress much, much faster than earlier diseases.01:53
ryoumaor versions of same disease depending01:55
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Military suicides are up as much as 20% amid COVID crisis → https://is.gd/t6iiVR02:08
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Covid-19: Up to £10,000 fine for failure to self-isolate in England: New rules mean anyone in England who tests positive for coronavirus has a legal duty to self-isolate. → https://is.gd/jv5Jeb02:28
LjLryouma, on the other hand, Boris Johnson said that the UK has been doing worse lately than other countries like Italy because they "love freedom". president of Italy was slightly annoyed.03:07
ryoumawhat ius the on the one hand to your on the ohter hand?03:13
ryoumai was referring to a global battle.  not nyc.  if you have a disease likelong covid, you will not be treated well, globally.03:14
ryoumae.g. in europe arguably uk is intolerably bad with systematic and widespread persecution, germany even worse, eastern europe even worse.  long covid will face the same problems.  however, they (those who have the disease and are pushing to be taken seriously) are making extremely fast progress by the standards of those battles.03:15
ryoumabut extremely fast  ould be many many years and there could be regress03:18
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: The pandemic is plunging millions back into extreme poverty → https://is.gd/pqBLl903:20
LjL<ryouma> general impresssion: uk population takes pandemic more seriously than us population04:06
LjLon the other hand of this04:06
ryoumaah04:07
ryoumai want reporters to say "define freedom".  and also "why are you unwilling to say whether you will transfer power peacefully".  and so on.  instead they ask about dumb stuff.04:09
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Wisconsin tops 2,000 COVID-19 cases for 4th straight day → https://is.gd/FzlAdm04:11
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Australia only recorded 5 new COVID-19 cases today (28 Sep), all in Victoria. → https://is.gd/XVZMoI04:22
metroryouma: what are you referring to here, "1955 outbreak (still sick)"04:25
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Depression anxiety and substance use are on the rise due to lockdowns. → https://is.gd/j09JhS04:32
LjLryouma, in the US case at least, if they try to ask those things they go "next question" and that reporter is never allowed to be present again04:34
LjLand with Boris Johnson it was an address to the nation, there weren't questions04:35
ryoumametro: oh various diseases where if you get them you will get very, very sick but doctors will laugh at you and governments will not do science on them or admit they exist.04:36
metroI mean.. I know of people who are sick but can't get a diagnosis04:37
ryoumamerely meant 1955 was a whole lot of nurses and doctors got sick, and those still alive who did not die from it or from other causes are still sick.04:37
ryoumano, there are categories of diseases that get denied04:38
metroThe Spanish Flu?04:38
metroThat killed very quickly apparently04:38
metroChronic symptoms from Covid-19 appear to last upwards of several months for some people04:38
ryoumayes, and might last entire lifetimes04:39
metroThough there could be long last effects for years04:39
ryoumayes, and there are indications that this might be the case04:39
metroYou've basically introduced a chronic infection into your body04:39
metroOne we have no natural immunity to04:39
ryoumamaybe.  unknown.04:39
ryoumaunknown if it is ongoing infection04:40
ryoumathere might be subtypes too04:40
metroYes, it's unknown, the human immune system is quite good04:40
metroWell it certainly affects the heart, lungs, and kidneys, and possibly into the brain as well, these are major organs04:41
metroHeart damage can resurface years later04:41
metroas can damage to the other organs04:41
ryoumaright04:42
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: If Coronavirus Doesn't Kill Us, Climate Change Will: World Leaders Warn of Environmental Armageddon → https://is.gd/KUVBnv04:42
ap4lmtreehi04:44
ap4lmtreeso trump's net worth is negative 421 million?04:45
metroI doubt it, the brand Trump has a book value of $1Bn 04:56
metroActually there have been at least several Presidents who were broke fwiw04:57
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Dogs That Can Smell Coronavirus Screen Travelers at Airport: A pilot study at the Helsinki airport has trained dogs to smell coronavirus in a sample of a person's sweat with near 100% accuracy → https://is.gd/DmGvgS05:03
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: The COVID-19 death toll has exceeded 1 million → https://is.gd/kl7HFb05:14
tinwhiskers"If Coronavirus Doesn't Kill Us, Climate Change Will" - neither will kill us all. Hyperbole is a bad way of getting people onboard.05:25
ryoumatoo bad we can't grow neurons as powerful as dogs' olfactory neurons05:37
ryoumaor their sensors05:37
Jigsyhttps://www.axios.com/brain-eating-amoeba-texas-city-water-supply-alert-9b694eea-f456-4189-920d-09696d241d87.html05:43
Jigsy%title05:43
BrainstormJigsy: From www.axios.com: Brain eating amoeba found in Lake Jackson, Texas, water supply - Axios05:43
Jigsy2020, the gift that keeps on giving.05:43
amahi05:49
ryoumadid not read, but brain eating amoebae are already known about, aren't they?  or is this a new type?05:56
amagumohi06:05
ryoumabasically if you are doing a neti pot, you want to use distilled water or boil the water06:07
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus*: Coronavirus: Indonesia: Jakarta back in quarantine amid virus spike → https://is.gd/IU1yZH06:16
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: San Antonio, Bexar County sees new daily low of COVID-19 cases → https://is.gd/wQXnyf06:27
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: German Minister of Economic Development: The pandemic triggered one of the largest economic crises and, as a result, one of the largest poverty and hunger crises. Far more will die from the consequences of the lockdown than from the virus. → https://is.gd/7q0DO006:37
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: India Covid Tally Crosses 60 Lakh With 82,170 New Cases; 1,039 Deaths → https://is.gd/NPYfaK06:58
BrainstormUpdates for World: +125932 cases (now 33.4 million), +2114 deaths (now 1.0 million) since 12 hours ago — Quebec, Canada: +896 cases (now 71901), +4 deaths (now 5825) since a day ago — Ontario, Canada: +695 cases (now 52134), +1 deaths (now 2888) since a day ago — India: +33064 cases (now 6.1 million), +603 deaths (now 95574) since 12 hours ago07:07
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: 350 cases of suspected far-right sympathy found in German security forces → https://is.gd/JAURIx07:08
tinwhiskersit wasn't long ago a number of people were claiming people with an Indian ethnic background were somehow less affected by covid than other ethnic groups. I guess we can finally put that to bed, sadly.07:12
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Canada adds 1,454 COVID-19 cases as diagnoses soar in Ontario, Quebec → https://is.gd/KyrfdQ07:29
BrainstormUpdates for Thailand: +22 cases (now 3545) since a day ago — World: +214 cases (now 33.4 million), +1 deaths (now 1.0 million) since 32 minutes ago — Uzbekistan: +192 cases (now 55593), +1 deaths (now 460) since 43 minutes ago07:37
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Mainland China reports 21 new COVID-19 cases vs 14 a day earlier → https://is.gd/Ywfuzs07:50
BrainstormUpdates for Kerala, India: +7006 cases (now 167939), +21 deaths (now 656) since 21 hours ago — Zuid-Holland, Netherlands: +1027 cases (now 33110), +3 deaths (now 1394) since 21 hours ago — Noord-Holland, Netherlands: +777 cases (now 22828), +3 deaths (now 856) since 21 hours ago — Kharkiv Oblast, Ukraine: +494 cases (now 17364), +5 deaths (now 331) since 21 hours ago07:52
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Man escapes New Zealand Covid-19 isolation facility by 'creating rope out of bedsheets' → https://is.gd/xLwz8A08:00
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: India’s confirmed coronavirus tally reaches 6 million cases → https://is.gd/vjAhbw08:31
Haley[m]%cases world08:34
BrainstormHaley[m]: In World, there have been 33.4 million confirmed cases (0.4% of the population) and 1.0 million deaths (3.0% of cases) as of 16 minutes ago. 636.6 million tests were performed (5.2% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 0.2% (assuming prevalence as in tests) and less than 3.9% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=World for time series data.08:34
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Occupational doctor: During the corona pandemic, a flu vaccination is particularly important for risk groups → https://is.gd/RM5E4o08:42
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Shirley Bannister, mother of South Carolina teacher who died of Covid-19, dies from it weeks later → https://is.gd/X9tVu808:52
BrainstormUpdates for Georgia: +298 cases (now 5552) since 23 hours ago — World: +1003 cases (now 33.4 million), +13 deaths (now 1.0 million) since an hour ago — Hungary: +702 cases (now 24716), +13 deaths (now 749) since 23 hours ago — Taiwan: +3 cases (now 513) since 2 days ago08:52
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: V483a – an Emerging Mutation Hotspot of Sars-Cov-2 (82 votes) | https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202009.0395/v1 | https://redd.it/j149rd08:53
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express (Health): Art and Culture: Meet the artist capturing the pandemic on New York subway → https://is.gd/P5hZPe09:02
BrainstormUpdates for Armenia: +174 cases (now 49574), +6 deaths (now 957) since 23 hours ago — World: +174 cases (now 33.4 million), +9 deaths (now 1.0 million) since 31 minutes ago — Georgia: +3 deaths (now 31) since 31 minutes ago09:07
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Covid-19: Up to £10,000 fine for failure to self-isolate in England: Anyone in England who tests positive has a legal duty to self-isolate or face a fine of up to £10,000. → https://is.gd/jv5Jeb09:23
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Friendly interactions with Chinese people reduced COVID-19 prejudice: People with a history of positive social interactions with Chinese people were less likely to support discriminatory anti-Chinese policies as COVID-19 reached the UK—according to new research from the University of East Anglia. → https://is.gd/peuQXZ09:34
BrainstormUpdates for Russia: +8135 cases (now 1.2 million), +61 deaths (now 20385) since 23 hours ago — World: +8141 cases (now 33.4 million), +63 deaths (now 1.0 million) since 43 minutes ago — Afghanistan: +6 cases (now 39233), +2 deaths (now 1455) since 19 hours ago09:37
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: India's confirmed coronavirus tally reaches 6 million cases: India's confirmed coronavirus tally reached 6 million cases on Monday, keeping the country second to the United States in number of reported cases since the pandemic began. → https://is.gd/5wV8TC09:44
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Global coronavirus death toll passes one million: More than one million people have died from the coronavirus, according to an AFP toll, with no let-up in a pandemic that has ravaged the world economy, inflamed diplomatic tensions and upended lives from Indian slums and Brazilian jungles to America's biggest city. → https://is.gd/G3qUIy09:55
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Virus cases in hard-hit Australian state reach lowest in months: Five million residents in Australia's second biggest city emerged from an almost two-month overnight curfew on Monday as just five new coronavirus cases were recorded in worst-hit Victoria state. → https://is.gd/HUdsrU10:05
BrainstormUpdates for Estonia: +67 cases (now 3267) since a day ago — World: +103 cases (now 33.4 million) since 33 minutes ago — Latvia: +21 cases (now 1697) since a day ago — Singapore: +15 cases (now 57715) since a day ago10:07
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Coronavirus death rate dropping amid better ICU treatments → https://is.gd/D14EBb10:15
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Israelis mark Yom Kippur under ‘painful’ virus lockdown → https://is.gd/Lqf9WL10:36
BrainstormNew from StatNews: A layperson’s guide to how — and when — a Covid-19 vaccine could be authorized: The process of deciding when a vaccine appears to be safe and effective isn’t as straightforward as the general public might believe. → https://is.gd/c1du9010:47
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Opinion: Global investors must support pharma solidarity and collaboration in the response to Covid-19: Covid-19 has reminded us all of the economic and social implications when high-income countries and financial markets become complacent about the global reach of infectious diseases. → https://is.gd/dlgkkI10:57
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: UK Parliament bars exempted from 10pm coronavirus curfew restrictions → https://is.gd/8qvvMA11:18
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Covid-19: Up to £10,000 fine for failure to self-isolate in England: Anyone in England who tests positive has a legal duty to self-isolate or face a fine of up to £10,000. → https://is.gd/jv5Jeb11:39
cloud69Hey! Anybody here wanna collaborate on a new corona app/website? :P11:40
yanghi cloud69 what are you making ?11:43
cloud69yang: So far it's just a map with live chat :P11:44
cloud69i've told everyone i'm working on a corona app.. so now i have to come up with *something* :P11:44
yangok11:45
cloud69yang: any suggestions?11:48
cloud69those stats dashboards are overused... and nobody ended up using those government-backed bluetooth contact tracing apps11:49
yangcloud69: no suggestions, but livechat seems like a good thing for sharing people's opinions11:50
cloud69hmm.. true, thanks for the confidence boost :P11:51
cloud69maybe a live feed of recently published research papers?11:58
cloud69or maybe... https://www.celebritieswithcorona.com/ :P11:59
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: US passes UK in official total Covid-19 deaths per million → https://is.gd/bHrnNe12:00
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Positive COVID-19 test rates top 25% in some U.S. Midwest states → https://is.gd/XbI5x112:10
cloud69but yeah.. PM me if interested in collabing on a super cool new corona app :P12:11
BrainstormNew from ProPublica: The Students Left Behind by Remote Learning: by Alec MacGillis ProPublica is a nonprofit newsroom that investigates abuses of power. Sign up to receive our biggest stories as soon as they’re published. This story was co-published with The New Yorker and is not subject to our Creative Commons license. Shemar, a 12-year-old from [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/wuzzrv12:20
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: In Rural Nebraska, Combating Hunger From The Pandemic Is A Community Effort → https://is.gd/fRupz012:31
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: 150 crew on first post-lockdown Greek cruise contract coronavirus → https://is.gd/CUJ32f12:41
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Covid-19: Up to £10,000 fine for failure to self-isolate in England: Anyone in England who tests positive has a legal duty to self-isolate or face a fine of up to £10,000. → https://is.gd/jv5Jeb13:02
BrainstormNew from Scientific American: Could Exposure to the Common Cold Reduce the Severity of COVID-19 Infection?: We don’t know, but the idea is hardly crazy—and if the answer is yes, we could save many lives long before a vaccine arrives -- Read more on ScientificAmerican.com → https://is.gd/pFwFmf13:13
Jigsy%cases UK13:24
BrainstormJigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 434969 confirmed cases (0.7% of the population) and 45712 deaths (10.5% of cases) as of 4 minutes ago. 23.2 million tests were performed (1.9% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data.13:24
cloud69Jigsy: nice..13:33
BrainstormNew from BMJ: Covid-19: Government poised to amend regulations to allow use of unlicensed vaccine: The UK government has set out plans to amend drug regulations in case it decides that covid-19 vaccines should be used before they are licensed, in a bid to roll them out more quickly.1In a... → https://is.gd/gucbNc13:33
JigsyI don't believe it's been updated yet.13:34
cloud69hmm13:35
cloud69Jigsy: i need an idea a bit more spicy though. im afraid all these graphs we're bombarded with all over media will scare people away13:35
cloud69* an idea that's a bit more13:36
cloud69maybe chatroulette.com but for covid patients? :P13:38
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Diseases, Conditions, Syndromes: COVID-19 in Victorian schools and childcare mainly driven by community transmission, analysis finds → https://is.gd/qX9YYU13:44
yo{x}__ New from Scientific American: Could Exposure to the Common Cold Reduce the Severity of COVID-19 Infection?:  No ... Very bad idea,,13:48
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: Positive COVID-19 test rates top 25% in some U.S. Midwest states (10106 votes) | https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN26I10Y | https://redd.it/j109bo13:55
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Covid: Businesses under lockdown offered £140m help: New grants are being offered to businesses as three more counties prepare for local lockdown. → https://is.gd/d74yYB14:05
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Polarizing Tweets by Russian Trolls on Vaccination Targeted Groups in 2016 → https://is.gd/oA7UGv14:15
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Mother sues school division for $200K for requiring face masks → https://is.gd/JskmTd14:25
BrainstormUpdates for Netherlands: +1948 cases (now 114540) since 6 hours ago — World: +28149 cases (now 33.5 million), +476 deaths (now 1.0 million) since 4 hours ago — Iran: +3512 cases (now 449960), +190 deaths (now 25779) since a day ago — Indonesia: +3509 cases (now 278722), +87 deaths (now 10473) since a day ago14:38
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Wales lockdown: Businesses affected by Covid offered grants: New grants are being offered to businesses as three more counties prepare for local lockdown. → https://is.gd/d74yYB14:46
JigsyBrits really are monumentally stupid.14:48
JigsyThe amount of people not wearing masks is just... wow.14:48
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Seasonality of Respiratory Viral Infections: Will COVID-19 Follow Suit? (80 votes) | https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpubh.2020.567184/full | https://redd.it/j12dqv15:01
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Amidst Covid-19 pandemic, Israeli Jews mark Yom Kippur under lockdown → https://is.gd/pxYPnQ15:07
BrainstormUpdates for Belarus: +337 cases (now 77946), +4 deaths (now 822) since a day ago — World: +1565 cases (now 33.5 million), +14 deaths (now 1.0 million) since 39 minutes ago — India: +1150 cases (now 6.1 million), +6 deaths (now 95606) since 39 minutes ago — Iceland: +40 cases (now 2663) since 23 hours ago15:09
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Exercise bloggers offer dubious advice, study suggests: The vast majority of exercise bloggers are not qualified to give the advice they're giving, according to a University of Alberta study that suggests this lack of certification could contribute to misinformation and unhealthy behavior, especially since the pandemic has [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/KPeNje15:17
dTalJigsy: it varies very widely depending on area it seems15:27
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Steering the immune system with liposomes: Liposomes—nano-sized spheres composed of fatty molecules—are very promising for vaccination. Bio-pharmaceutical scientist Naomi Benne discovered that the immune response in animal models can be steered by varying the charge of the liposomes. She obtained her Ph.D. degree on 8 [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/2NJbuw15:28
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Pharma: STAT Plus: Pharmalittle: Operation Warp Speed is more Army than science; J&J’s Covid-19 vaccine moves forward → https://is.gd/cs8BF015:38
BrainstormUpdates for Myanmar: +897 cases (now 11631), +30 deaths (now 256) since a day ago — World: +11167 cases (now 33.5 million), +156 deaths (now 1.0 million) since 50 minutes ago — India: +4538 cases (now 6.1 million), +20 deaths (now 95626) since 50 minutes ago — Iraq: +4116 cases (now 353566), +62 deaths (now 9052) since 20 hours ago15:54
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Evaluation of rapid tests for COVID-19 show high levels of diagnostic sensitivity: A team of scientists, including researchers from the University of Sheffield, have today (25 September 2020) published their evaluation of a rapid, new COVID-19 testing technology, which has the potential to expand the type and scale of testing available. → https://is.gd/IuQCBb16:09
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Disruption of work relationships adds to mental-health concern: A recent Harvard study highlights how much emotional support we get from workplace relationships, and that it has not only been our jobs that the pandemic has disrupted, but these important informal ties as well. → https://is.gd/keBvKU16:20
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Researchers seek rapid way to produce proteins necessary to assess potential vaccine components: Dr. Gerd Mittelstädt from Te Herenga Waka-Victoria University of Wellington's Ferrier Research Institute is contributing to the search for a COVID-19 vaccine by finding a rapid way to produce the proteins needed to assess potential [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/wpYXsB16:30
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Preventative nasal spray shown to reduce viral replication by up to 96% in COVID-19 challenge study (87 votes) | https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/preventative-nasal-spray-shown-to-reduce-viral-replication-by-up-to-96-in-covid-19-challenge-study-301138072.html | https://redd.it/j1c3b116:38
cloud69Jigsy: Maybe we need an app that has something to do with masks then16:38
BrainstormUpdates for Andorra: +130 cases (now 1966) since 3 days ago — World: +1624 cases (now 33.5 million), +31 deaths (now 1.0 million) since 50 minutes ago — US: +961 cases (now 7.3 million), +19 deaths (now 209473) since 2 hours ago — Germany: +376 cases (now 287269) since 2 hours ago16:39
ubLIX[m]selfie-facing camera with facial/mask-recognition bricks phone if it sees face without mask?16:40
SnakeubLIX[m], bruh16:41
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express (Health): Health: Amid pandemic, cardiologists say people should not neglect getting regular check-ups → https://is.gd/xT5alP16:41
cloud69hehe16:41
SnakeJigsy, sometimes i go into a store without a mask if i forgot one16:42
Snakemaybe they all forgot16:42
Snakewell16:42
Snakea few forgot, and the rest just dont care haha16:42
Snakethat is more likely16:42
cloud69:)16:44
JigsyI find it hard to believe "everyone forgot," though.16:44
qkallJigsy: i've been to places where i've seen people with masks and they see an optional sign and they take them off16:46
qkalli hate that we can't tell people fuck your bs and wear it16:46
qkallbut here we are....16:46
LjLwe've been told dozens of times to get our flu shot and to get it early this year16:55
LjLbut Lombardy, of all places, isn't receiving them until November, and they ordered the trivalent ones instead of the quadrivalent for some reason16:56
LjLand they are not receiving nearly enough for vaccinating a sizable portion of the population, barely enough for the elderly16:56
LjLGET FUCKED i say16:56
LjLdTal, maybe governments are useful in places that actually have any worth their name16:56
LjLOUR roads collapse, OUR laws protect the rich and powerful only16:57
Snakeare flu shots already out16:57
LjLno16:57
LjLbut other regions get them in October, not November, and get the proper one16:58
LjLin November there will be so much COVID around i'll likely be scared of leaving home, nevermind going to get a flu shot16:58
Snakecan you have the dr come to you17:00
LjLno, we must go to them, and also, apparently many GPs are refusing to vaccinate this year, because they're scared of COVID17:01
LjLso i think they're sort of arranging for pharmacists to administer them after some course17:01
LjLit's a shitshow17:02
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Researchers identify 'druggable' signaling pathway that stimulates lung tissue repair: Researchers at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia (CHOP) and the Perelman School of Medicine at the University of Pennsylvania have identified a cellular pathway that can be targeted with a naturally occurring drug to stimulate lung tissue [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/JdpwcZ17:02
Snakeoh yeah, i got the flushot at the pharmacy last 2 times i got it17:04
LjLSnake, i suppose it's fine with people trained properly and a tested system. but GPs are scared partly because they still aren't being given proper PPEs17:06
Snakeyeah17:07
Snakei see17:07
LjLyou know we're handling this like idiots when the WHO praises us for our handling of it17:08
Snakelmao17:08
Snakeidk if we can handle a pandemic very well17:08
Snakewe're too human, not to mention we were unprepared to begin with17:08
LjLwe were unprepared not with reason17:08
LjLwe could and should have been prepared, governments had pandemic plans because they knew this would happen, they just hadn't been dusted off since i dunno, 185017:09
LjLvirologist had been yelling at them so much they had no voice left for years17:10
Snakebecause, well at least in america, half of the population votes for people that don't believe government can get anything done17:10
Snakeit's a self fulfilling prophecy17:10
IndoAnonhmm, so. The reason lies on funding or government's inaction? 17:10
LjLi think high-profile politicians self-select to be unfit for the job17:10
LjLbecause the people who'd be fit for the job flee politics well before they become visible, most of them17:11
SnakeJapan has pretty good politics17:11
LjLthey've also had the same party in government since after WW2 except for some years recently17:11
Snakethey're conservative but they call themselves liberal democratic party, which is it17:11
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Wales lockdown: Businesses affected by Covid offered grants: New grants are being offered to businesses as three more counties prepare for local lockdown. → https://is.gd/d74yYB17:12
SnakeIndoAnon, the modern state has almost limitless funding, the only real constraint being to avoid hyperinflation17:13
IndoAnonlel17:16
LjLwhat's the big deal with hyperinflaction? it only leads to little world wars17:18
metrowe are more worried about deflation at the moment and interset rates are already near 017:20
metronot true in other places of course17:20
metrochina must be facing a huge supply shock at the moment17:20
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express (Health): Art and Culture: For the first time since the pandemic, craftspeople have reason to celebrate → https://is.gd/gpv74f17:23
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Covid: Manchester mayor calls for 'urgent review' of 10pm closures → https://is.gd/H6Vjl717:33
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Watch live: The World Health Organization holds a press briefing on the coronavirus pandemic → https://is.gd/G23aab17:44
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Wales lockdown: Businesses affected by Covid offered grants: New grants are being offered to businesses as three more counties prepare for local lockdown. → https://is.gd/d74yYB17:54
BrainstormUpdates for Jordan: +734 cases (now 9226), +6 deaths (now 51) since 23 hours ago — World: +20734 cases (now 33.5 million), +172 deaths (now 1.0 million) since an hour ago — Brazil: +4522 cases (now 4.7 million) since 11 hours ago — India: +3566 cases (now 6.1 million), +52 deaths (now 95678) since 2 hours ago18:09
BrainstormNew from In The Pipeline*: Interferon and the Coronavirus: Here’s a potentially important paper that’s out in Science and is getting a lot of attention. The wide variation in severity of coronavirus infection has been noted throughout the pandemic, and we already know about a few of the risk factors: age, of course, but also being male, and having [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/YcdWEe18:15
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Covid: Hancock pressured to give MPs say over lockdown rules → https://is.gd/m6PxDW18:49
BrainstormUpdates for Mozambique: +305 cases (now 8288), +1 deaths (now 59) since 23 hours ago — World: +5681 cases (now 33.5 million), +103 deaths (now 1.0 million) since 50 minutes ago — US: +3028 cases (now 7.3 million), +23 deaths (now 209525) since 50 minutes ago — Turkey: +1412 cases (now 315845), +65 deaths (now 8062) since 23 hours ago18:54
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: SARS-CoV-2 Uses CD4 to Infect T Helper Lymphocytes (85 votes) | https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.09.25.20200329v1 | https://redd.it/j1dbhw18:57
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: COVID-19 may deplete testosterone, helping to explain male patients' poorer prognosis: For the first time, data from a study with patients hospitalized due to COVID-19 suggest that the disease might deteriorate men's testosterone levels. → https://is.gd/T0QoN019:10
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Emotional exhaustion during times of unrest: Local and world events have brought out strong emotions and stressors this year, often one right after another. They include COVID-19, social distancing, quarantines, stay-at-home orders, furloughs, job loss, masking, racial injustice, protests and demonstrations. There's no question [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/tydd5E19:21
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Vaccines amid the COVID-19 pandemic: The prospect of having a COVID-19 vaccine raises expectations and plenty of questions. While no one can pinpoint the elusive question of when there will be a vaccine, there are some questions that can be answered now. → https://is.gd/qGYviA19:31
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Nearly 280,000 US schoolchildren have had coronavirus: study: Almost 280,000 school-aged children were infected with the novel coronavirus between March 1 and September 19, according to detailed data released Monday in a report by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). → https://is.gd/5oNWLj20:02
Jigsy%cases UK20:04
BrainstormJigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 439013 confirmed cases (0.7% of the population) and 45712 deaths (10.4% of cases) as of an hour ago. 24.0 million tests were performed (1.8% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data.20:04
JigsyAnother 4/5K, huh?20:04
JigsyHmmm...20:05
Jigsyhttps://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-britain-lockdown/british-ministers-prepare-for-social-lockdown-in-northern-britain-london-the-times-idUSKBN26I11S20:05
Jigsy%title20:05
BrainstormJigsy: From www.reuters.com: British ministers prepare for social lockdown in northern Britain, London: The Times | Reuters20:05
BrainstormNew from Gazzetta Ufficiale italiana: (news): Testo del decreto-legge 30 luglio 2020, n. 83, (in Gazzetta Ufficialedel 30 luglio 2020, n. 214), coordinato con la legge  di  conversione25 settembre 2020, n. 124 (in questa stessa Gazzetta  Ufficiale  allapag. 1), recante: «Misure urgenti  connesse  con  la  scadenza  delladichiarazione di emergenza [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/ajVl4920:23
BrainstormUpdates for Kerala, India: +7445 cases (now 175384), +21 deaths (now 677) since 12 hours ago — World: +78976 cases (now 33.6 million), +1137 deaths (now 1.0 million) since an hour ago — India: +50487 cases (now 6.1 million), +597 deaths (now 96275) since 2 hours ago — Maharashtra, India: +18056 cases (now 1.3 million), +380 deaths (now 35571) since 12 hours ago20:25
BrainstormNew from The Atlantic: The Most Complicated Vaccine Campaign in History: Editor’s Note: The Atlantic is making vital coverage of the coronavirus available to all readers. Find the collection here . → https://is.gd/t3DvBy20:55
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: The U.S. is 'not in a good place' as daily coronavirus cases grow beyond 40,000, Fauci says → https://is.gd/idklwM21:15
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: Fox News’ COVID Denial Hasn’t Aged Well (10111 votes) | https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/09/fox-news-covid-denial-hasnt-aged-well | https://redd.it/j17z8j21:22
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Wales lockdown: Businesses affected by Covid offered grants: New grants are being offered to businesses as three more counties are placed under local lockdown measures. → https://is.gd/d74yYB21:25
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Official coronavirus death toll is likely an 'underestimate' of the true total, WHO says → https://is.gd/ivdwVT21:36
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: The U.S. is 'not in a good place' as daily coronavirus cases grow beyond 40,000, Fauci says: "There are states that are starting to show an uptick in cases and even some increase in hospitalizations in some states," Dr. Anthony Fauci said Monday. → https://is.gd/asrjDU21:46
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: COVID-19 patients rarely survive cardiac arrest, study says: (HealthDay)—Folks whose hearts stop due to a severe case of COVID-19 are very unlikely to leave the hospital alive, a new study shows. → https://is.gd/3KFVVW21:56
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Strong activation of anti-bacterial T cells linked to severe COVID-19: A type of anti-bacterial T cells, so-called MAIT cells, are strongly activated in people with moderate to severe COVID-19 disease, according to a study by researchers at Karolinska Institutet in Sweden that is published in the journal Science Immunology. The [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/EUTE9f22:07
pwr22Hey LjL[m], looks like I got kicked out of all my IRC rooms due to inactivity or something22:13
pwr22@freenode_LjL:matrix.org:  Sorry, thing I mentioned the wrong nick22:14
pwr22tinwhiskers: looks like the US data now has numbers instead of states?22:15
LjLpwr22, yes, it happens after 30 days. but you're back as soon as you say something22:15
LjLpwr22, you mentioned the wrong nick twice, as far as IRC is concerned :P but just your luck i saw it anyway22:16
pwr22ha ha22:16
pwr22doh22:16
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Official coronavirus death toll is likely an 'underestimate' of the true total, WHO says → https://is.gd/ivdwVT22:17
pwr22Trying to remember how to setup a build environment for Cov Bot 22:17
pwr22Think I've got it22:17
pwr22<Brainstorm "New from CNBC Health: (news): Of"> Tis interesting that I saw that it looks like the UK tolls are only getting some fraction of deaths22:19
pwr22When you compare deaths this year to other years, they are much higher than usual by some amount more22:19
LjLpwr22, yes that's true more or less everywhere22:19
LjLpwr22, this is good https://mpidr.shinyapps.io/stmortality/22:20
LjLwell, it is bad, but the site is good22:20
pwr22Ohh, will take a look22:20
LjLthere are other similar thing around the top of https://github.com/ljl-covid/links#epidemiology22:21
LjLbut that's perhaps the most comprehensive, euromomo could be better22:22
pwr22LjL: I don't suppose you happen to know where to find the mapping of US state numbers in the offloop unconfirmed.csv and actual names?22:27
LjLpwr22, that's a new one to me, it used to contain names, i don't know when it changed, i may have failed to notice Brainstorm wasn't giving state data. tinwhiskers?22:29
pwr22There's a github issue on CovBot here https://github.com/pwr22/covbot/issues/5422:30
pwr22Someone kindly has diagnosed the issue for me22:30
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Coronavirus Updates: New York City positivity rate approaches 2% → https://is.gd/IbhsDF22:38
tinwhiskerspwr22: thanks for letting me know. I'll check it out (also LjL).22:41
pwr22Np22:42
LjLlol22:44
LjL<tinsoldier> * pwr22 → ##covid-19 → https://github.com/pwr22/covbot/issues/54 → Puerto Rico "disappeared"?!? · Issue #54 · pwr22/covbot · GitHub22:44
LjLTrump's secret dream22:44
LjLnot so secret dream22:44
pwr22ha ha22:45
tinwhiskersheh22:45
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Researchers work with 8th-grader, undergrad to identify mutations in COVID-19 causing its high infectivity: When Saathvik Kannan's father, a faculty member at the University of Missouri, saw his friend, Kamlendra Singh, a research professor at MU, on television being interviewed for his research identifying possible treatments [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/Npqs7p22:48
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Dutch government announces new restrictions to rein in virus: The Dutch government introduced new nationwide restrictions Monday aimed at tackling the swift spread of coronavirus infections that is sweeping across the country, including banning supporters from professional sports matches and ordering bars and restaurants to [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/6NwLOv22:58
BrainstormUpdates for New York, US: +35012 cases (now 490638), +94 deaths (now 33225) since 15 hours ago — Washington, US: +2553 cases (now 88822), +1 deaths (now 2101) since 15 hours ago — World: +24360 cases (now 33.6 million), +441 deaths (now 1.0 million) since 2 hours ago — US: +14424 cases (now 7.3 million), +117 deaths (now 209679) since 2 hours ago23:00
LjLpwr22, i suspect tinwhiskers fixed that23:01
LjLalthough i should in turn fix those times-since23:01
tinwhiskersOh, good you noticed I fixed it before I knew23:01
pwr22Looks like it, thanks!23:02
tinwhiskersit was a bug in the column name detection, which failed when they changed the column order23:02
pwr22Ah, fair enough23:09
LjLhopefully makes it up for failing to notice it was broken in the first place!23:13
pwr22Covid is once again rampant here in the UK again23:14
pwr22So maybe I'll work on covbot some more23:15
LjLit's more rampant than in Italy, but much less than in France or Spain23:15
LjLUK being average as usual23:15
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Nearly Two-Thirds Of U.S. Households Struck By COVID-19 Face Financial Trouble → https://is.gd/3Y6wpg23:29
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: US to distribute 150 million rapid coronavirus tests - Roughly 100 million to be sent to states and territorial governments, 50 million for vulnerable communities → https://is.gd/x6fN8F23:50

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