libera/##covid-19/ Saturday, 2020-10-03

GomJabbarwell00:10
GomJabbarcovid just got more interesting00:10
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: White House SCOTUS announcement is suspected as Covid super-spreader event as video shows infected senator hugging attendees → https://is.gd/dUtQfZ00:19
BrainstormNew from Scientific American: Health: COVID in the White House Should be America's Wake-Up Call → https://is.gd/jHFy1o00:30
ryoumano, it is all a hoax00:34
ryouma(are those extant?  have they progressed in the haldane stages of belief yet?)00:36
LjLthere's talks of extending all-times masks nationwide in italy (a couple of regions have already done it, not lombardy this time)00:47
LjLwe've had two days of sharp increase in new cases, i hope they do this and whatever is necessary early, not late00:47
LjLwe've had enough late and seen what it causes00:48
BrainstormUpdates for World: +15062 cases (now 34.9 million), +424 deaths (now 1.0 million) since an hour ago — New Hampshire, US: +217 cases (now 8534), +1 deaths (now 442) since a day ago — Colombia: +6192 cases (now 841531), +201 deaths (now 26397) since a day ago — Brazil: +5189 cases (now 4.9 million), +45 deaths (now 145011) since 4 hours ago00:51
xrogaanhttps://www.npr.org/2020/10/02/919697784/trump-makes-unannounced-visit-to-walter-reed-following-coronavirus-diagnosis00:51
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Kim Jong Un wishes President Trump recovers from COVID-19 | NK News → https://is.gd/H7dnAp00:51
xrogaanhe got a high dose of an experimental drug yet to be approved by the FDA.00:52
xrogaanIt's just insane.00:52
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Trump in video statement: "I think I'm doing very well" → https://is.gd/nR8mKC01:02
blackguardyeah don't panic, not even in ICU yet, like Boris was.01:08
blackguardxrogaan: cause he's such a Maverick VIP01:09
xrogaanWhen do you administer experimental drugs to high profile patients?01:10
xrogaanRight away, or when shit hit the fan?01:10
ryoumawhen the doctor thinks it should be done01:10
ryoumamaybe the doctor has tried it many times01:11
ryoumaor probably team in this case01:11
ryoumabecasue, you know, mortals don't count01:11
BrainstormNew from The Lancet: [Correspondence] Remdesivir and COVID-19 – Authors' reply: We thank the clinicians and researchers around the world for their comprehensive interpretation of the results of our randomised controlled trial of remdesivir for COVID-19.1 They shared valuable thoughts from different perspectives according to related evidence from in [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/cqDKJL01:12
blackguardwonder how many times he has been tested since March, must be hundreds01:12
ryoumahuh etymology of your nick is interesting01:14
xrogaanThey should have everything to treat him at the White House other than the more heavy duty equipment. If it was just "mild", they wouldn't have moved him at all.01:14
ryoumaone dentist proudly say they test once per month.01:14
ryoumaperhaps sudden worsening is a risk so they moved while possible01:15
ryoumaalso faster lab results01:16
xrogaanold and morbidly obese, they're probably not taking any risk.01:16
ryoumaalso perhaps they don't want speaker of the house to be acting01:17
ryouma(3rd in line)01:17
ryouma(i don't think testing once per month sounds that useful)01:19
BrainstormUpdates for World: +33264 cases (now 34.9 million), +483 deaths (now 1.0 million) since 32 minutes ago — Brazil: +21018 cases (now 4.9 million), +420 deaths (now 145431) since 31 minutes ago — US: +4837 cases (now 7.5 million), +16 deaths (now 213445) since 32 minutes ago — Texas, US: +2985 cases (now 796486) since 32 minutes ago01:21
snakeanyone find a darknet source of covid vaccines?01:31
blackguardsnake: you want to buy some? 01:32
snakeblackguard, yea01:33
BrainstormNew from WebMD: Officials Begin Task of Tracing Trump's Contacts: Tracing the contacts of President Trump and first lady Melania Trump after both tested positive for COVID-19 early Friday will likely involve reaching out to hundreds of people in at least two  locations, public health experts say. → https://is.gd/XwxfgI01:55
BrainstormUpdates for Argentina: +14687 cases (now 779689), +311 deaths (now 20599) since 23 hours ago — World: +17889 cases (now 34.9 million), +375 deaths (now 1.0 million) since 47 minutes ago — US: +2185 cases (now 7.5 million), +41 deaths (now 213486) since 47 minutes ago — California, US: +1541 cases (now 826544), +30 deaths (now 16069) since 47 minutes ago02:06
LjLArgentina keeps beating its case record on a daily basis now as far as i can see02:07
BrainstormUpdates for Nebraska, US: +792 cases (now 46977) since a day ago — France: +6081 cases (now 603320) since 5 hours ago — World: +4863 cases (now 34.9 million), +88 deaths (now 1.0 million) since 32 minutes ago — Peru: +3267 cases (now 821564), +74 deaths (now 32609) since 21 hours ago02:36
blackguardand it's only October02:46
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: Here's everything we know about the unapproved antibody drug Trump took to combat coronavirus: Former FDA chief Scott Gottlieb on President Trump getting a dose of Regeneron antibody drug: 'if you have available therapy, I think you deliver it' → https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/02/what-we-know-about-regeneron-antibody-drug-trump-took-to-combat-coronavirus.html03:00
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: 11 positive coronavirus tests traced to presidential debate, Cleveland officials say → https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/j46ju2/11_positive_coronavirus_tests_traced_to/03:10
SolidPumpkinslow down argentina, its not a race03:13
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: North Korea's Kim Jong Un wishes Trump recovery from coronavirus → https://is.gd/nBWiTi03:21
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: ‘I think I’m doing very well’: Trump after testing Covid positive → https://is.gd/JtnG0F03:32
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: 'South Carolina is open for business’: S.C. restaurants allowed to operate at 100 percent capacity → https://is.gd/FkIUIw03:43
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: Here's everything we know about the unapproved antibody drug Trump took to combat coronavirus: Former FDA chief Scott Gottlieb on President Trump getting a dose of Regeneron antibody drug: 'if you have available therapy, I think you deliver it' → https://is.gd/ad4frA03:54
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: After Trump’s coronavirus diagnosis, Biden says masks not about being a ‘tough guy’ → https://is.gd/L9r4h804:04
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Trump received experimental antibody treatment → https://is.gd/MdyFm504:16
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Czech Republic added another 3793 cases yesterday. Around 23.000 tests performed. → https://is.gd/riKwEp04:37
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Donald Trump’s diagnosis is a reminder to take coronavirus seriously: Joe Biden → https://is.gd/ni7Dwr04:48
BrainstormUpdates for Belgium: +3175 cases (now 124234), +14 deaths (now 10037) since 23 hours ago — World: +11798 cases (now 34.9 million), +541 deaths (now 1.0 million) since 2 hours ago — Mexico: +4775 cases (now 753090), +414 deaths (now 78492) since 23 hours ago — France: +3037 cases (now 606357) since 2 hours ago04:52
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: North Korea’s Kim wishes Trump recovery from coronavirus → https://is.gd/Y6DYUn04:59
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Misinformation spikes as Trump confirms COVID-19 diagnosis → https://is.gd/82Y5AV05:10
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Trump tests Covid positive: What we know and don’t know → https://is.gd/8rBpls05:31
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: Trump Being Transferred to Walter Reed Military Center (10200 votes) | https://twitter.com/bnodesk/status/1312138797782425600?s=21 | https://redd.it/j436a405:39
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: WHO praises Turkey's efforts to curb COVID-19 → https://is.gd/hqdMGR06:03
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: [China] Update on COVID-19 Pandemic Situation as of 24:00 02/10/2020 → https://is.gd/ilFprl06:14
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Covid 19 coronavirus: Jacinda Ardern sends Trump New Zealand's best wishes → https://is.gd/mvLPHp06:25
BrainstormUpdates for Quebec, Canada: +1052 cases (now 76273), +7 deaths (now 5857) since a day ago — World: +21649 cases (now 35.0 million), +122 deaths (now 1.0 million) since 2 hours ago — Ukraine: +4045 cases (now 223376), +65 deaths (now 4357) since 2 hours ago — India: +1610 cases (now 6.5 million) since 2 hours ago07:07
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Number of Covid cases grows among people who attended White House ceremony → https://is.gd/7b1vU707:07
blackguardLast week, Sen. Thom Tillis embraced a QAnon theory that the coronavirus death toll isn't real. He has now tested positive.07:10
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: New COVID test doesn't use scarce reagents, catches all but the least infectious → https://is.gd/PV7UGK07:18
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Covid-19: World in ‘for a hell of a ride’ in coming months, Dr Mike Ryan says - WHO official estimates that 750m people globally have likely had coronavirus to date → https://is.gd/iDQ4pp07:40
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Trump undergoing Remdesivir therapy for Covid treatment: White House doctor → https://is.gd/N3LYH807:50
BrainstormUpdates for Northern Ireland, United Kingdom: +934 cases (now 12886), +1 deaths (now 582) since a day ago — North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany: +777 cases (now 71357) since a day ago — Campania, Italy: +392 cases (now 13524) since 14 hours ago — Berlin, Germany: +339 cases (now 15370), +2 deaths (now 231) since a day ago08:08
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Disney leads companies announcing layoffs; big airline job cuts loom due to covid → https://is.gd/KhtBZg08:12
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Positive Tests for Senators Raise Questions About Timing of Barrett Hearings → https://is.gd/g0S0nv08:22
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: US COVID-19 survivors to honor dead Sunday, rally online for effective pandemic response → https://is.gd/tsZKJx09:05
BrainstormUpdates for Georgia: +471 cases (now 7564), +2 deaths (now 48) since 22 hours ago — World: +471 cases (now 35.0 million), +2 deaths (now 1.0 million) since an hour ago09:08
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Police increase patrolling in Australia's COVID-19 hotspot → https://is.gd/8ziHYA09:37
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: A Covid-19 Nasal Swab Test Punctured Woman's Brain Lining and Leaked Brain Fluid From Her Nose → https://is.gd/nHLElh09:48
BrainstormUpdates for Russia: +9859 cases (now 1.2 million), +174 deaths (now 21251) since a day ago — World: +14291 cases (now 35.0 million), +260 deaths (now 1.0 million) since an hour ago — Philippines: +2652 cases (now 319330), +62 deaths (now 5678) since 23 hours ago — Hungary: +1086 cases (now 29717), +14 deaths (now 812) since a day ago10:08
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Canada eases border restrictions for students, unmarried couples and those with a dying relative → https://is.gd/wRM26q10:09
AndreasKunstmannhttps://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/10/03/pers-o03.html10:10
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: COVID - 19 positive UK MP attends House of Commons; asked to resign → https://is.gd/ZSNkZB10:20
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Why people with diabetes are being hit so hard by Covid-19 → https://is.gd/QJ4Xl110:52
BrainstormUpdates for Poland: +2367 cases (now 98140), +34 deaths (now 2604) since a day ago — World: +3443 cases (now 35.0 million), +38 deaths (now 1.0 million) since 49 minutes ago — Slovakia: +704 cases (now 12321) since a day ago — Croatia: +241 cases (now 17401), +2 deaths (now 293) since a day ago10:53
BrainstormUpdates for Austria: +1058 cases (now 47432), +6 deaths (now 809) since 23 hours ago — World: +5212 cases (now 35.0 million), +89 deaths (now 1.0 million) since 20 minutes ago — Indonesia: +4007 cases (now 299506), +83 deaths (now 11055) since a day ago — Finland: +147 cases (now 10391) since 23 hours ago11:08
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Fearful of the pandemic and threats from riders, Detroit's bus drivers refuse to work → https://is.gd/fDgJCJ11:24
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Journalists who work at the White House are testing positive for Covid-19 → https://is.gd/bX2j9A11:45
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: A few superspreaders transmit the majority of coronavirus cases: 80% of community transmission events – one person spreading the coronavirus to another – could be tracked back to just 1-10% of sick individuals → https://is.gd/1CFHu512:07
BrainstormUpdates for Malaysia: +317 cases (now 12088), +1 deaths (now 137) since a day ago — World: +1913 cases (now 35.0 million), +27 deaths (now 1.0 million) since an hour ago — Bangladesh: +1182 cases (now 367565), +20 deaths (now 5325) since a day ago — Slovenia: +227 cases (now 6330), +1 deaths (now 155) since a day ago12:08
BrainstormUpdates for Kerala, India: +9258 cases (now 213499), +20 deaths (now 791) since 23 hours ago — Maharashtra, India: +15591 cases (now 1.4 million), +424 deaths (now 37480) since 23 hours ago — Karnataka, India: +8793 cases (now 620630), +125 deaths (now 9119) since 23 hours ago — Andhra Pradesh, India: +6555 cases (now 706790), +31 deaths (now 5900) since 23 hours ago12:23
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Face masks unlikely to cause over-exposure to CO2, even in patients with lung disease → https://is.gd/ZOiFPW12:39
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: India virus deaths pass 100,000: Deaths from the novel coronavirus in India passed 100,000 on Saturday, official data showed as the pandemic continued to rage across the world's second most populous country. → https://is.gd/T81Lm812:50
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Trump hospitalized for COVID treatment, campaign grounded: President Donald Trump was hospitalized Friday and given an experimental COVID-19 treatment, but said he was "well," following bombshell news he had contracted the virus, knocking him off the campaign trail a month from the US election. → https://is.gd/pDqkcR13:01
BrainstormUpdates for United Arab Emirates: +1231 cases (now 97760), +2 deaths (now 426) since 23 hours ago — World: +1774 cases (now 35.0 million), +5 deaths (now 1.0 million) since 59 minutes ago — US: +448 cases (now 7.5 million), +2 deaths (now 213526) since 8 hours ago — Malta: +65 cases (now 3204), +1 deaths (now 38) since a day ago13:09
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Madrid starts partial virus lockdown amid political scuffle: Madrid awoke Saturday to its first day under a partial lockdown, with police controlling travel in and out of the Spanish capital that has become Europe's biggest hot spot for the second wave of the coronavirus. → https://is.gd/i4HpAD13:12
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Diseases, Conditions, Syndromes: What is contact tracing, and how does it work with COVID-19? → https://is.gd/1ExVKZ13:22
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: US Daily Cases 50,000 yesterday → https://is.gd/UlmmwT13:44
BrainstormUpdates for Kansas, US: +1189 cases (now 62300) since 14 hours ago — World: +9010 cases (now 35.0 million), +204 deaths (now 1.0 million) since 58 minutes ago — Iran: +3523 cases (now 468119), +179 deaths (now 26746) since a day ago — US: +3301 cases (now 7.6 million), +17 deaths (now 213543) since 58 minutes ago13:54
pas5%cases NL14:10
Brainstormpas5: In Netherlands, there have been 129991 confirmed cases (0.7% of the population) and 6448 deaths (5.0% of cases) as of 6 hours ago. 2.4 million tests were performed (5.3% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Netherlands for time series data.14:10
pas5%cases DE14:11
Brainstormpas5: In Delaware, US, there have been 20937 confirmed cases (2.2% of the population) and 642 deaths (3.1% of cases) as of 16 hours ago. 206475 tests were performed (10.1% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 0.7% (assuming prevalence as in tests) and less than 7.1% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data.14:11
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Remdesivir Treatment for Trump Costs More Than His Reported Tax Bill → https://is.gd/j0BAS314:16
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Madrid starts partial virus lockdown amid political scuffle → https://is.gd/96W0yG14:27
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Coronavirus tears Greek and Turkish Cypriots apart — again → https://is.gd/LhRirf14:38
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: Here's everything we know about the unapproved antibody drug Trump took to combat coronavirus: Former FDA chief Scott Gottlieb on President Trump getting a dose of Regeneron antibody drug: 'if you have available therapy, I think you deliver it' → https://is.gd/ad4frA14:48
aswe323%cases Israel14:48
Brainstormaswe323: In Israel, there have been 258920 confirmed cases (2.8% of the population) and 1633 deaths (0.6% of cases) as of 21 hours ago. 3.8 million tests were performed (6.8% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 0.3% (assuming prevalence as in tests) and less than 0.9% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Israel for time series data.14:48
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Oxford University coronavirus vaccine could be rolled out within six months: Report → https://is.gd/U4hzft14:59
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Sen. Ron Johnson tests positive for COVID-19 → https://is.gd/KViHJE15:32
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Negative Covid-19 tests not a substitute for 14-day quarantine → https://is.gd/qLa62815:43
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: The White House hoped testing would keep the coronavirus out — but it didn't: "I don't think any experts recommend that you use medical screening tests as a replacement for social distancing, or masks, or other kinds of mitigation efforts," Dr. Ben Mazer, an anatomic and clinical pathologist at Johns Hopkins Hospital, said. → https://is.gd/KM1Z9Z15:54
izalso they picked the test w/ the higher false negative rate16:06
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Ron Johnson is the third Republican senator to test positive for coronavirus in two days → https://is.gd/M7K5kf16:26
BrainstormUpdates for Italy: +2843 cases (now 322751), +27 deaths (now 35968) since a day ago — World: +61136 cases (now 35.1 million), +673 deaths (now 1.0 million) since 3 hours ago — Portugal: +963 cases (now 78247), +12 deaths (now 1995) since a day ago — India: +36372 cases (now 6.5 million), +336 deaths (now 101211) since 10 hours ago17:09
LjLIt's nice to be first in that list again17:14
metroFirst in which list?17:16
metroI don't think there is any question that India currently has more cases than the USA 17:17
metroEven if they are uncounted17:17
kreyren_Trump diagnosed with covid-19 lol17:41
voltage_what's so funny17:41
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Russia's new coronavirus cases return to highest levels, near 10,000 → https://is.gd/VIUdil17:42
kreyren_voltage_, I see it as poetic since he was the one who made the situation much worse in USA17:42
voltage_lol he did not17:43
voltage_but nice one dumbo17:43
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Cam Newton tests positive for COVID-19 - ProFootballTalk → https://is.gd/k9cYwt17:53
kreyren_voltage_, doubt~ 17:54
BrainstormUpdates for Jordan: +1099 cases (now 14749), +9 deaths (now 88) since a day ago — World: +6060 cases (now 35.1 million), +108 deaths (now 1.0 million) since 52 minutes ago — US: +2311 cases (now 7.6 million), +32 deaths (now 213627) since 52 minutes ago — Canada: +807 cases (now 164419), +37 deaths (now 9460) since 9 hours ago17:55
voltage_kreyren_, i doubt you know anything other than what got imprinted in your brain by manipulative media18:03
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Former NJ Gov. Chris Christie Tested Positive for COVID → https://is.gd/9NAyDJ18:04
kreyren_voltage_, possibly, but from what i saw he had a rally when it was beginning in the USA and did not put the country under quarantine to avoid the covid infection from spreading18:04
kreyren_which is what czechia did in the early days and handled the situation without issues18:05
BrainstormUpdates for Belarus: +431 cases (now 79852), +7 deaths (now 851) since a day ago — Friuli Venezia Giulia, Italy: +346 deaths (now 699) since 10 hours ago — World: +4052 cases (now 35.1 million), +57 deaths (now 1.0 million) since 23 minutes ago — US: +3621 cases (now 7.6 million), +50 deaths (now 213677) since 23 minutes ago18:10
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Chris Christie tests positive for coronavirus → https://is.gd/ccNjtE18:15
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Former NJ Governor Chris Christie confirms positive coronavirus test → https://is.gd/TVHLNU18:36
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: The impact of COVID-19 public health measures on detections of influenza and respiratory syncytial virus in children during the 2020 Australian winter (82 votes) | https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciaa1475/5912591 | https://redd.it/j4fc0518:56
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Ron Johnson is the third Republican senator to test positive for coronavirus in two days → https://is.gd/M7K5kf18:57
Jigsy%cases UK19:15
BrainstormJigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 467146 confirmed cases (0.7% of the population) and 45712 deaths (9.8% of cases) as of 11 hours ago. 25.0 million tests were performed (1.9% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data.19:15
JigsyNo increase yet..19:15
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Doctors say Trump is in good health but add to confusion about timing of Covid-19 diagnosis: At a briefing, President Trump’s medical team added confusion to the timeline around his Covid-19 diagnosis and when interventions have been provided. → https://is.gd/rvslyu19:19
BrainstormUpdates for Montana, US: +501 cases (now 14356) since 23 hours ago — World: +15615 cases (now 35.1 million), +196 deaths (now 1.0 million) since an hour ago — US: +7021 cases (now 7.6 million), +81 deaths (now 213758) since an hour ago — Israel: +5063 cases (now 263983), +46 deaths (now 1679) since a day ago19:20
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Press pool report from Bloomberg journalist says Trumps vitals “Over the last 24 hours were very concerning” → https://is.gd/4HrrNa19:29
danielp33441%cases world19:31
Brainstormdanielp33441: In World, there have been 35.1 million confirmed cases (0.5% of the population) and 1.0 million deaths (3.0% of cases) as of 17 minutes ago. 663.3 million tests were performed (5.3% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 0.3% (assuming prevalence as in tests) and less than 3.9% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=World for time series data.19:31
BrainstormUpdates for Ireland: +605 cases (now 37668), +4 deaths (now 1810) since 23 hours ago — World: +605 cases (now 35.1 million), +9 deaths (now 1.0 million) since 21 minutes ago19:35
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: (news): Ron Johnson is the third Republican senator to test positive for coronavirus in two days → https://is.gd/M7K5kf19:40
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: Number of Covid cases grows among people who attended White House ceremony (10018 votes) | https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/number-covid-cases-grows-among-people-who-attended-white-house-n1241943 | https://redd.it/j49s3c19:44
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: U.S. Political Figures COVID-19 Megathread: This megathread is for discussing all news related to President Trump’s positive Covid-19 diagnosis and treatment, as well as positive test results from senators and other political figures. → https://is.gd/NDSPEp20:01
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: Florida governor says closing schools to stop spread of COVID-19 was a mistake - calls critics of campus reopenings ‘flat earthers’ → https://is.gd/1vxMHK20:12
BrainstormNew from Ars Technica: Science: Trump tested positive for coronavirus Wednesday, doctor reveals in briefing → https://is.gd/n8kIH920:44
BrainstormNew from StatNews: South Africa and India urge WTO to waive IP rights, widen access to Covid-19 drugs and vaccines: The governments of India and South Africa have asked the World Trade Organization to waive certain IP rights provisions to make Covid-19 drugs, vaccines, and diagnostics more accessible. → https://is.gd/yI4nA420:55
BrainstormUpdates for Lebanon: +1321 cases (now 43494), +12 deaths (now 398) since a day ago — World: +53681 cases (now 35.1 million), +781 deaths (now 1.0 million) since an hour ago — India: +33532 cases (now 6.5 million), +511 deaths (now 101722) since 4 hours ago — Brazil: +6695 cases (now 4.9 million), +124 deaths (now 145555) since 19 hours ago21:05
BrainstormNew from WebMD: Why A Negative Test Doesn't Rule Out COVID: Tests miss COVID cases for a variety of reasons, meaning someone who tests negative may still have the disease. → https://is.gd/Uv7Fgz21:06
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: Sen. Ron Johnson tests positive for COVID-19 (10091 votes) | https://www.tmj4.com/news/coronavirus/sen-ron-johnson-tests-positive-for-covid-19 | https://redd.it/j4eud121:45
Jigsy%cases UK21:48
BrainstormJigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 467146 confirmed cases (0.7% of the population) and 45712 deaths (9.8% of cases) as of 13 hours ago. 25.0 million tests were performed (1.9% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data.21:48
Jigsy...21:49
Jigsy12,872 cases!?21:50
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Loss of smell a ‘highly specific’ indicator of Covid-19, finds UCLH and UCL research (83 votes) | http://www.uclh.nhs.uk/News/Pages/SmelllosshighlyspecificindicatorCovid19.aspx | https://redd.it/j4joco22:03
BrainstormNew from CDC: Coronavirus [CoV]: Cases & Deaths by County → https://is.gd/yJtqEF22:10
JigsyI like how people are complaining that number includes backlogged cases.22:11
JigsySo what? Pretend they don't exist?22:11
JigsyIdiots.22:11
LjLJigsy, well, they don't in spain22:38
LjLwihch means they report about half of their *actual* daily toll22:38
JigsyO_o22:38
JigsySee, that's just dumb.22:38
LjLthey only report those who were diagnosed within the past 24 hours22:38
JigsyI'd rather have a spike in numbers than not reporting numbers.22:38
LjLyou can get the true numbers if you just subtract yesterday's total from today's total22:38
LjLwhich is easy enough22:38
LjLbut most media give the government's number instead22:39
Jigsy"There were no new cases today. They were all backlogged, so they don't count."22:39
LjLFrance had around 16000 today22:39
Jigsy"We did it! We beat COVID-19!" \o/22:39
LjLi expect Spain to be similar in reality at this point22:39
LjLand Italy is soaring22:39
LjLso yeah expect nothing good22:39
JigsyI'll just assume it's the usual 7K.22:39
LjLeh22:40
Jigsy%cases UK22:44
BrainstormJigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 472315 confirmed cases (0.7% of the population) and 45712 deaths (9.7% of cases) as of 9 minutes ago. 25.0 million tests were performed (1.9% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data.22:44
Jigsy5K?22:44
LjLso it would seem22:47
LjLJigsy, fyi it goes: 2020-09-30.log:[17:44:40] 453264 2020-10-01.log:[18:33:37] 460178 2020-10-02.log:[20:32:32] 467146 2020-10-03.log:[22:44:37] 47231522:52
LjLalso https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/aL5hahAX/image.png https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-more-than-12-000-new-cases-announced-after-technical-issue-increases-figure-1208936822:53
LjLso it seems it's 12K in one day technically, although many of those were already reported at some point yesterday22:53
LjLtimes are CEST22:53
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: Coronavirus hospitalizations grow in the Midwest amid climbing cases — 'It's clearly a forest fire': Six states reached record high Covid-19 hospitalizations as of Friday, based on a weekly average, including Missouri, Wisconsin, North Dakota and South Dakota. → https://is.gd/GGeak723:03
BrainstormUpdates for Kentucky, US: +1274 cases (now 72001), +8 deaths (now 1205) since a day ago — World: +29419 cases (now 35.2 million), +537 deaths (now 1.0 million) since 2 hours ago — US: +17622 cases (now 7.6 million), +228 deaths (now 214089) since 2 hours ago — India: +3965 cases (now 6.5 million), +90 deaths (now 101812) since 2 hours ago23:05
BrainstormUpdates for United Kingdom: +7702 cases (now 480017) since 15 minutes ago — World: +13031 cases (now 35.2 million), +53 deaths (now 1.0 million) since 18 minutes ago — Angola: +159 cases (now 5370), +4 deaths (now 193) since a day ago — Monaco: +1 cases (now 222) since a day ago23:21
LjLJigsy, whoops23:21
JigsyWell, that brings us up to the full 12,871.23:21
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: The experiment, 19 animals exposed to coronavirus, 10 animals were vaccinated and 9 animals were not vaccinated, Koca said that the virus was not found in the vaccinated animals. Human trials begin in Istanbul. → https://is.gd/NgnZHp23:24
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Diseases, Conditions, Syndromes: 'Not over.' New York continues to see uptick in virus cases → https://is.gd/F5HRVT23:35
ryoumaarizona seems to have almost no testing according to offloop.  quest the testing company had an enormous backlog.  i wonder if the backlog is still there and what the real curve is.23:37
ryoumadisappointed that new york is participating in the second wave23:38
LjLryouma, i would not necessarily trust offloop's data on testing. it comes from covidly which is one of the few sources that *has* any testing data for many different places to begin with, but they're often... bad.23:42
ryoumaknowing the enormous backlog though what to make of the curve of cases?23:44
ryoumathanks for hte knowledge23:44
LjLryouma, "enormous" isn't a number :P i don't know what to make of it, i'd say to look at excess deaths, but in this "second wave", mortality has been quite different (the US has really had just one uninterrupted wave, but i suspect the latest months have features of Europe's second wave anyway, with lower age etc)23:46
ryoumathe claims on the other channel about preexisting conditions (either nonsensically or blaming the vicim saying bad health is what makes them unhealthy) and small risk of dealth (ignoring long covid) is quite typical set of attitudes toward chronic diseases23:46
LjLryouma, until the tests curve just went horizontal, tests were growing linearly. which is less than ideal if the disease is growing exponentially, but assuming tests are still growing that way, i think if the cases curve goes down like it has, the down-trend has to be real. and while i don't know if tests are still mostly keeping on the prior trend, i'm pretty sure the horizontal-ness of the graph currently is just an artifact23:48
ryoumai am just wondering wher eht e case data are coming from if there are so few tests23:49
LjLryouma, note though that were only two people making those claims: the original poster of that comment on hackernews, and the one individual on the channel. the rest of us were quite annoyed at it all.23:49
ryoumany looks at risk for a second wave.  canada.  etc.  seems to be concern about northern second wave.  i know europe was talking about it long ago but it seems to be int he middle of it now.23:49
LjLryouma, well again i don't know what "so few tests" really is. it's certainly not *zero* tests as the covidly curve would suggest.23:49
ryoumawill look at covidly when i am awake and ab;le23:51
LjLryouma, offloop testing data *are* covidly23:52
LjLit means that covidly is no longer giving any testing data for AZ23:52
LjLit doesn't mean the real curve is really horizontal23:52
\mSgaz laboratory testing directly from azdhs: https://www.azdhs.gov/preparedness/epidemiology-disease-control/infectious-disease-epidemiology/covid-19/dashboards/index.php23:53
ryoumaproportion of tests postitive was vertical at one point, idk waht to make of the edifferences day to day and was just wondering about the accuracy of the mtop cases curve23:53
LjLryouma, proportion of tests positive taken from where? if you take it from Brainstorm, it's again just using offloop aka covidly data23:54
LjLif those data are bogus (which they currently are for AZ), then the output will be bogus too23:54
ryoumafrom either default or alternate offloop data23:54
ryoumawhich is why i am wondering23:54
LjLryouma, only alternate has testing at all23:54
ryoumaright only one did23:55
LjLanyway the link \mSg gave has testing, and it's been going down, but definitely not to zero23:55
LjLit's been more or less the same amount per unit of time since august23:55
LjLafaics23:55
BrainstormNew from CNBC Health: New York City is 'on the edge of a precipice' as coronavirus cases grow, former CDC director says: New York is responding to growing clusters of coronavirus cases in 20 "hotspot" ZIP codes that are reporting average positivity rates as high as 18%. → https://is.gd/7uyKXO23:56
LjLryouma, for comparison, there were around 10k tests per day at the end of september (excluding weekends which are worse), and that's with AZ having a population of 7 million. in italy, we consider it a good testing day when we test more than 100k people, but we have 60 million italians23:57
LjLso all in all it's more or less the same amount of testing as Italy23:57
LjLwhether the amount of testing in Italy is decent or not, i'm not the one to say23:58
ryoumaok23:59

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