libera/##covid-19/ Wednesday, 2020-12-23

BrainstormUpdates for Switzerland: +143 deaths (now 6924) since 10 hours ago01:10
LjLhttps://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://ekstrabladet.dk/nyheder/samfund/ny-mutation-bekymrer-statens-serum-institut/841072501:21
LjL New mutation worries Statens Serum Institut01:21
LjLA new mutation of the coronavirus - N439K - shows signs of decreased sensitivity to neutralizing antibodies01:21
LjLi have the feeling just as we were looking at getting this under some control, it's about to go very much out of control again :\01:22
LjLbut then again, last time Denmark had a mutation they successfully killed everyone involved...01:22
LjLhttps://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.ssi.dk/aktuelt/nyheder/2020/beskrivelse-af-covid-19-variant-n439k01:23
LjLthey've had no deaths from this variant. is it normal with Danish testing that over 1624 samples, where they say the variant doesn't seem to be affecting a particular sector of the population, you'd find no deaths? de-facto01:25
BrainstormUpdates for Martinique: +415 cases (now 6049) since 6 days ago — France: +7387 cases (now 2.5 million) since 23 hours ago — Netherlands: +7725 cases (now 711125) since 23 hours ago02:31
BrainstormUpdates for Canada: +6642 cases (now 522720), +91 deaths (now 14427) since 19 hours ago — New Zealand: +1 cases (now 2122) since 2 days ago03:33
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: 2020 becomes first year in U.S. history with more than 3 million deaths (10477 votes) | https://www.marketwatch.com/story/2020-becomes-first-year-in-u-s-history-with-more-than-3-million-deaths-01608681248?mod=newsviewer_click | https://redd.it/kihee306:02
BrainstormUpdates for Mongolia: +57 cases (now 1063) since a day ago — Belgium: +2198 cases (now 629109), +124 deaths (now 18821) since 22 hours ago06:14
de-facto[m]Unfortunately now we see the impact of the spread by mutations in the phylogenetic tree of SARS-CoV-2, emergence of more and more variants with sime partial ability to evade antibodies. In may mean the window for eradication by vaccination is closing, exactly as i predicted half a year ago 😕07:02
de-facto[m].title https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.11.04.355842v107:03
Brainstormde-facto[m]: From www.biorxiv.org: The circulating SARS-CoV-2 spike variant N439K maintains fitness while evading antibody-mediated immunity | bioRxiv07:03
de-facto[m]So we might just whitness the transition from a small initial hence still vulnerable genetic variety into a fully diversified endemic variant that will just stay with us forever.07:06
de-facto[m]The slow response and containment with too many compromises simply were not enough to use the chance for eradicating the pathogen, hence we let it slip through globally. This was to be expected. Many countries never even had the goal to eradicate it, hence it will sray with us now.07:09
de-facto[m]Ergo we gonna have to find a way to coexist with this payhogen in longterm.07:10
de-facto[m]Vaccinations might be a stsrt to make it less severe, but we cant rely on the unprooven conjecture they would just make it go away like magic.07:16
de-factoRKI Germany COVID-19 2020-12-23: Weekly Incidence 195.1/100k, Infections +24740 (1554920 total), Fatalities +962 (27968 total), COVID@ICU 5200 (incl, 2731 on ventilator) 07:44
de-factoAnother sad record there never were more deaths related to COVID-19 per day in Germany07:44
BrainstormUpdates for Texas, United States: +21623 cases (now 1.6 million), +181 deaths (now 26117) since a day ago — New York, United States: +9716 cases (now 866765), +156 deaths (now 36724) since a day ago — Georgia, United States: +9079 cases (now 600517), +64 deaths (now 10463) since a day ago — Ohio, United States: +7678 cases (now 637032), +130 deaths (now 8252) since a day ago07:47
DocScrutinizer05>>the chance for eradicating the pathogen<< this been discused controversially since beginning, and I seem to recall e.g. Drosten always saying it will go endemic08:47
DocScrutinizer05on the bright side: today's count of fatalities is a record but basically almost identical to 7 days ago08:52
de-factowell it means it was WAY too many fatalities a week ago already09:03
de-facto~1k daily fatalities in a 83M citizen country is simply completely unacceptable imho09:03
de-factobtw we will see a decline in incidence and fatalities during Christmas09:08
de-factoyet that will be related to reporting and not to real decline in reality09:08
de-factoso basically we only can see if the shutdown had any effect in the begin of January09:09
the-weshttps://i.imgur.com/dry9UFg.png09:13
de-factolol09:20
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: The New Mutations (80 votes) | https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/12/22/the-new-mutations | https://redd.it/kieq4b09:21
de-facto.title https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.12.21.20248640v109:31
Brainstormde-facto: From www.medrxiv.org: Emergence and rapid spread of a new severe acute respiratory syndrome-related coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) lineage with multiple spike mutations in South Africa | medRxiv09:31
de-facto.title https://www.krisp.org.za/publications.php?pubid=315 <-- same paper09:32
Brainstormde-facto: From www.krisp.org.za: Emergence and rapid spread of a new severe acute respiratory syndrome-related coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) lineage with multiple spike mutations in South Africa09:32
BrainstormUpdates for Lithuania: +3736 cases (now 120094), +50 deaths (now 1143) since 22 hours ago09:33
DocScrutinizer05gotta love it when they waste my time by spelling out severe acute respiratory syndrome-related coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) 09:53
DocScrutinizer05btw stress causes reduced immune system response, so even when it's not exactly easy try to feel less stressed about all the facts we can't change anyway09:57
BrainstormUpdates for Czechia: +10898 cases (now 646312) since 2 hours ago11:12
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Study: Vitamin D deficiency found in over 80% of COVID-19 patients (85 votes) | https://www.ajc.com/life/study-vitamin-d-deficiency-found-in-over-80-of-covid-19-patients/A6W5TCSNIBBLNNUMVVG4XBPTGQ/ | https://redd.it/kip0jk11:28
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BrainstormUpdates for Canada: +91 deaths (now 14431) since 18 hours ago12:14
de-factodarsie, thats too much afaik 1000 IU D3 per day is enough12:19
de-factoi asked my pharmacist and medical doctors12:20
darsieThat's the maximum considerd harmless, and it took me to the lower end of the good range.12:20
de-facto25µg daily is enough12:21
darsieI got it cheaply, so I'm not worried.12:22
de-factoi took 2000 IU (50µg) daily over the whole time though, yet my medical doc and also the pharmacist told me 1000 IU (25µg) daily would be the safer dose12:22
de-facto*whole time of the pandemic 12:22
de-factoalso multivitamit, zinc, etc12:23
generawhat was your bloodlevel after that 2000 Kur?12:23
de-factonever measured12:24
generadang12:24
de-factoactually that should have been done12:24
darsieThe Institute of Medicine in 2010 recommended a maximum uptake of vitamin D of 4,000 IU/day, finding that the dose for lowest observed adverse effect level is 40,000 IU daily for at least 12 weeks,[16] and that there was a single case of toxicity above 10,000 IU after more than 7 years of daily intake12:24
generaactually that cost much much more than the D3 itself12:24
de-factoi have got a house dust allergy that i never had before, so maybe that could be related, or it is related to my quitting smoking, idk12:25
de-factoyet i just ignore that, i dont take any antihistamines or such12:26
generatoo many variables^^12:26
darsieEine maximale tägliche Dosis von 100 µg (4000 IE) für Jugendliche und Erwachsene (inklusive Schwangere und stillende Mütter) und 50 µg (2000 IE) für Kinder von 1 bis 10 Lebensjahren sind von Gesunden ohne Risiko von Nebenwirkungen auch ohne medizinische Aufsicht langfristig einnehmbar.12:26
de-factoyeah12:26
de-factolangfristig = years?12:26
darsielong term12:26
de-factoactually i dont know, i am just citing my MD or Pharmacist about this12:27
de-factoor=and12:27
de-factoalso might be a good idea to take D3 together with K2 and calcium12:29
de-factojust noticed they sell combi products for that already12:29
darsieI use fortified soy milk with my morning muesli and a 560 mg Ca tablet with a later meal.12:30
darsieCa fortified12:30
de-factoi just bought the combi product yesterday hope it will not upset my stomach12:36
BrainstormUpdates for Latvia: +1145 cases (now 33484), +20 deaths (now 479) since 22 hours ago — Timor-Leste: +2 cases (now 33) since 20 days ago12:57
de-facto%cases thailand13:36
Brainstormde-facto: In Thailand, there have been 5762 confirmed cases (0.0% of the population) and 60 deaths (1.0% of cases) as of 5 hours ago. 1.3 million tests were performed (0.5% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Thailand for time series data.13:36
de-factoseems they got a huge peak in the most recent days13:36
de-factolike since 2020-12-15 or such13:37
BrainstormUpdates for Lesotho: +179 cases (now 2725), +3 deaths (now 51) since 4 days ago14:12
de-facto.title https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/thailand-covid-19-outbreak-seafood-market-migrant-workers-1383043414:21
Brainstormde-facto: From www.channelnewsasia.com: After months of calm, Thailand grapples with COVID-19 outbreak - CNA14:21
de-facto.title https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN28W0NJ14:22
Brainstormde-facto: From www.reuters.com: Thai PM blames virus surge on illegal migration, hints at new curbs | Reuters14:22
de-facto.title https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_and_statistics_of_the_COVID-19_pandemic_in_Thailand#November%E2%80%93December14:22
Brainstormde-facto: From en.wikipedia.org: Timeline and statistics of the COVID-19 pandemic in Thailand - Wikipedia14:22
Arsaneritmaybe you notice the house dust more because you're more at home14:43
de-factocould be15:00
de-factobtw yesterday was a press conference from RKI about the current situation in Germany15:00
de-facto.title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPa5--Qcls4 <-- Statement and press conf from RKI in Germany lang15:00
Brainstormde-facto: From www.youtube.com: Coronavirus: RKI-Pressekonferenz zur aktuellen Lage in Deutschland - YouTube15:00
BrainstormUpdates for Switzerland: +5033 cases (now 423299), +111 deaths (now 6975) since 22 hours ago15:14
KREYRENWhat should my IGG value on SARS-CoV-2 be to make me immune agains Covid-19?15:43
jacklswwhat's IGG value?16:42
generaIgG16:47
BrainstormUpdates for Netherlands: +10214 cases (now 721190), +107 deaths (now 10731) since 19 hours ago — Germany: +849 deaths (now 28268) since 23 hours ago — Canada: +96 deaths (now 14436) since 23 hours ago17:12
BrainstormUpdates for United Kingdom: +15177 cases (now 2.1 million), +283 deaths (now 68590) since 23 hours ago17:30
LjLjacklsw, it's a type of antibody, usually the type that arises most slowly but also stays around the longest17:30
jacklswthanks for the explanation LjL 17:48
JigsyOnce again, the UK is half-assing the situation.17:54
Jigsy"Tier 4 from the 26th!"17:54
JigsySo another three days for it to spread with people moving about.17:55
JigsyMy cousin's decided to go to Norfolk for some reason.17:56
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: A longitudinal seroprevalence study in a large cohort of working adults reveals that neutralising SARS-CoV-2 RBD-specific antibodies persist for at least six months independent of the severity of symptoms (85 votes) | https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.12.22.20248604v1 | https://redd.it/kiro9718:06
LjLurgh18:56
LjLhttps://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-confirms-two-cases-of-second-more-transmissible-variant-linked-to-south-africa-1217141018:57
LjLso the south african variant is now also in europe18:57
LjLtwo potentially worse variants at the same time is going to be... fun18:57
BrainstormUpdates for Lebanon: +2246 cases (now 163225), +22 deaths (now 1333) since 22 hours ago — Italy: +9305 cases (now 2.0 million), +361 deaths (now 70203) since a day ago19:16
LjLhttps://www.google.com/19:21
LjLthose Italy numbers don't match the official ones... but that's not very surprising since that's what Covidly always does, its own definition of what counts as a day19:28
LjLunfortunately the official numbers are more like +14000 ;(19:28
LjLtesting again19:28
LjLhttps://www.google.com/19:28
CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: Pfizer to supply US with additional 100M doses of vaccine (10249 votes) | https://apnews.com/article/health-coronavirus-pandemic-coronavirus-vaccine-f35259fee53146887591c32fd8ca6fdb?utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow | https://redd.it/kisdip19:31
LjL1 of 219:33
LjLSurgeon General of the U.S. Jerome Adams, left, elbow-bumps Emergency Room technician Demetrius Mcalister after Mcalister got the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccination at Saint Anthony Hospital in Chicago, on Tuesday, Dec. 22, 2020. (Youngrae Kim/Chicago Tribune via AP, Pool)19:33
LjLWASHINGTON (AP) — Pfizer said Wednesday it will supply the U.S. government with an additional 100 million doses of its COVID-19 vaccine under a new agreement between the pharmaceutical giant and the Trump administration.19:33
LjLPfizer and its German partner BioNTech said that will bring their total current commitment to 200 million doses for the U.S. That should be enough to vaccinate 100 million people with the two-shot regimen. The government also has an option to purchase an additional 400 million doses.19:33
marderoh i cpied the copy and then send per fax made a copy of it scanned it stored as COViD whatever. there you go19:53
mardermerry crisis and a happy new fear19:54
marder!corona cal19:54
CoronaBotNew Caledonia: Global rank: #206, cases: 38, fatalities: -, active cases: 1, total recovered: 37, in a serious condition: -. Mortality: -, case fatality rate: -, cases/1M: 132.0, deaths/1M: -. Tests: 18,616, tests/1M: 64,909.19:54
marder;)19:55
BrainstormUpdates for Spain: +12179 cases (now 1.8 million), +178 deaths (now 49698) since 23 hours ago — France: +360 deaths (now 61834) since 22 hours ago — Netherlands: +10225 cases (now 721201) since 22 hours ago20:05
LjLyou what O.o20:07
IndoAnonmarder: Merry coronamast20:15
mardertnx dude20:16
IndoAnonAlso, Brits seems to be...https://www.t-online.de/nachrichten/ausland/id_89174920/grenz-chaos-wegen-corona-mutation-lufthansa-errichtet-luftbruecke-nach-grossbritannien.html20:18
de-factossǝɯX ʎɹɹǝW20:18
IndoAnonde-facto: What you planned to cook tomorrow? 20:20
marderIndoAnon: blame it on their coronerd brexit chief20:22
de-factonothing, i did not go shopping for food20:22
marderecer thought bout sitting in a truck waiting for transf?20:23
IndoAnonde-facto: ok... I'm planning to re-bake bread and some cheese20:24
de-factooh sounds delicious20:25
IndoAnonYeah20:25
IndoAnonpizza crust 20:25
de-factoi still have some wine and pizza in the freezer, so yeah something like that20:26
IndoAnonmarder: they should have set zero tariff for the foods20:26
de-factofeeling sorry for those drivers of the trucks between UK and France, they are stuck on the streets there without the option to go forward or backwards during Christmas20:29
IndoAnonhmm, bread soaked in melting cheese or a fondue... What a hard choice20:29
IndoAnonYeah, it's horrible 20:29
marderomnomnom20:30
IndoAnonDude, not today lol20:30
marderbring all there big pardy!!! 20:30
marderwährend die elsässer fröhlich in frankreich einkaufen20:31
IndoAnonWell, roughly 18 hours from now, I am going to heat the oven and melt some cheese.... Like reverse hot pockets20:31
marderreverse what?20:32
IndoAnonbread with innerfilling of sausage,  wrapped in melted cheese20:34
BrainstormUpdates for Canada: +139 deaths (now 14543) since 20 hours ago20:36
de-factolol now i am hungry21:07
de-factoyour fault :P21:07
IndoAnonsorry (︶︹︺) 21:09
marderhehe, i cooked21:09
de-factoi want that cheese now, that sounds absolutely delicious21:09
marderich bin vollgefressen21:11
IndoAnontoo bad, i'm going to sleep now21:11
marder!corona at21:12
CoronaBotAustria: Global rank: #36, cases: 344,357 (+2,131), fatalities: 5,654 (+114), active cases: 25,782, total recovered: 312,921, in a serious condition: 472. Mortality: 1.64%, case fatality rate: 1.77%, cases/1M: 38131.0, deaths/1M: 626.0. Case rate: 1,853/24h, death rate: 105/24h. Tests: 3,682,136, tests/1M: 407,726.21:12
marder!corona cy21:13
CoronaBotCyprus: Global rank: #107, cases: 18,004, fatalities: 96, active cases: 15,851, total recovered: 2,057, in a serious condition: 16. Mortality: 0.53%, case fatality rate: 4.46%, cases/1M: 14860.0, deaths/1M: 79.0. Case rate: 0/24h, death rate: 0/24h. Tests: 687,363, tests/1M: 567,343.21:13
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Regulatory Decision Summary - Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine - Health Canada (82 votes) | https://covid-vaccine.canada.ca/info/regulatory-decision-summary-detailTwo.html?linkID=RDS00736 | https://redd.it/kiuurs21:38
BrainstormUpdates for South Africa: +14046 cases (now 954258), +411 deaths (now 25657) since 23 hours ago22:02
BullHornim confused, heres a question. many of the sars-cov-2 happen because of the cytokaine storm, when our body's immune system responds to the virus but causes damage to organs in the process. the mRNA vaccine makes our body think its infected with the virus. is there no risk of cytokaine storm?22:27
BullHornsars-cov-2 complications*22:28
generadidnt happen in the clinical trials22:29
generathe vaccines and thus the antibodies work on the S protein. the cytokines probably on all the other proteins22:30
ubLIXanyway, the vaccines are designed with the intention of provoking immune response absent the viral mechanisms for systemic host cell destruction. slight difference22:34
BrainstormUpdates for Gibraltar: +68 cases (now 1398) since a day ago23:11
BrainstormUpdates for Colombia: +14233 cases (now 1.5 million), +243 deaths (now 41174) since 22 hours ago — Somaliland: +107 cases (now 1354), +8 deaths (now 47) since 24 days ago23:42

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