libera/##covid-19/ Thursday, 2020-12-24

BrainstormUpdates for Switzerland: +105 deaths (now 7029) since 22 hours ago00:00
LjLhttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Variants_of_SARS-CoV-2&feed=atom&action=history is new, i'm putting it into the bot00:12
LjLwell, i didn't mean to link directly to the atom feed but00:12
LjLhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Variants_of_SARS-CoV-200:13
LjLand https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severe_acute_respiratory_syndrome_coronavirus_2_variants00:13
LjLalthough this certainly won't fulfill de-facto's want for an "every variant of some interest" wiki, because Wikipedia will only considered anything covered by multiple secondary sources as notable :P00:13
de-factonice one :)00:22
de-factomy idea was more about having a wiki about the mutations, something like Emma Hodcrofts github00:22
de-facto.title https://github.com/emmahodcroft/cluster_scripts00:23
Brainstormde-facto: From github.com: GitHub - emmahodcroft/cluster_scripts: Scripts to investigate the SUKS cluster00:23
de-factobtw that neat 3D viewer is at https://corona.bii.a-star.edu.sg/00:24
de-facto.title00:24
Brainstormde-facto, the command line provided is invalid 00:24
de-factoits not :/00:24
de-factoBrainstorm, From corona.bii.a-star.edu.sg: CoVsurver - CoronaVirus Surveillance Server00:25
LjLuhm00:26
LjLi think i broke something when i added the auto-title thing for ##coronalinks00:27
LjLbut what? if only i used git or anything ;(00:28
LjLoh i know00:30
LjLurgh fixing it breaks the other thing, great00:34
LjLhttps://test.com/00:36
LjLhttps://www.test.com/00:36
LjLhttps://www.google.com/00:37
LjLsorry for the noise, it's done00:37
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: The first wave of the Spanish COVID-19 epidemic was associated with early introductions and fast spread of a dominating genetic variant (80 votes) | https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.12.21.20248328v1 | https://redd.it/kiron200:39
LjL<Brainstorm> New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Covid-19 antibodies last for more than six months according to a study by the Finnish health authority THL → https://is.gd/xKgq4x00:52
LjLde-facto, anyway that thing basically you give it the protein you have and it draws it in 3D with the part that's different from the reference sequence highlighted in a different color?00:54
de-factoi think so, i have not entered a sequence yet00:56
de-factodo we have the full sequence for the UK variant?00:56
LjLi tried with the example one00:58
de-factohow can i access this interface there: https://twitter.com/PaolaResende1/status/1290309632208957440  ?00:58
LjLi don't have the UK variant, but i haven't looked for it either. it wasn't on the "bullet points" document for the UKgov00:58
de-factodoes GISAID have a hidden set of features?00:58
LjLde-facto, this maybe? https://github.com/cov-lineages/pangolin01:00
LjLwith a web interface https://pangolin.cog-uk.io/ ← here but maybe she's using the application01:01
de-factoi mean their database, probably needs registration and with manual verification or such01:02
de-factolike how do i search a sequence on GISAID?01:02
LjLoh01:03
LjLi'm not sure they are public :\01:03
LjLbut you can find sequences on what's its name too01:03
LjLthe place where we found the sequences for italian sewers :P01:04
de-factoyeah probably01:04
LjL"You may not distribute GISAID data outside the GISAID community, such as by releasing genetic sequences obtained in GISAID in any publication, transferring the data to colleagues that are not registered users, or offering GISAID data on a server accessible by others who are not duly registered with GISAID"01:05
LjLhttps://www.gisaid.org/registration/register/01:05
LjL"open-access" can be relative...01:05
de-factohmm well i can understand it, they want only provide the resources to those that really do need it and can do usefull stuff with it01:06
de-factowhen i would surf their repository it only would create additional load01:06
de-factoyet would be interesting to search their database for mutations :P01:07
DocScrutinizer05molotov*01:10
LjLi'm not sure i understand it01:11
LjLbut anyway, de-facto, when a sequence on NextStrain (and hence on GISAID) is also present elsewhere, you will find accession numbers for it, so for instance you go to https://nextstrain.org/ncov/global?label=clade:19A&s=Wuhan/WH01/2019 and you find "Genbank accession" of LR757998.1 which takes you to https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/LR757998.1 and voila you have the sequence01:11
LjLbut that is of course not available for most sequences01:12
LjLi might do something useful to find those using the nextstrain api01:12
LjLstill not sure what "something useful" would consist of though01:12
BrainstormUpdates for France: +13408 cases (now 2.5 million) since 22 hours ago — Canada: +6239 cases (now 528959), +157 deaths (now 14584) since 21 hours ago — Netherlands: +10135 cases (now 721260) since 22 hours ago01:13
DocScrutinizer05sorry for naive questionm what means "70% more contagious"? R_0´ = R_0 * 1.7? serial length 1/1.7?  Virus load 70% higher? ...01:16
de-facto[m]R01:17
generai think i heard somethin on twiv 696 on that01:18
generait was something while observing raising numbers of new infections in Kent 01:19
LjLDocScrutinizer05, i don't know, i suspect they mean that the R is old_R + 0.70 when you take the center point in the interval they found of 0.39 to 0.93...01:20
LjL"70% higher" sounds better for the press though :P01:20
LjLde-facto, am i just stupid or... did we input a mutation like N501Y into Nextstrain before and did it give us all the variants that had it? how was that done? i can't work this thing :(01:21
DocScrutinizer05>>old_R + 0.70<<? hmmm01:25
DocScrutinizer05sorry you lost me on the interval stuff01:25
DocScrutinizer05I heard some comment claiming "...which means with the new variant we would be from R_eff=1 now to an new R_eff=1.4...<< which doesn't make any sense to the 70% for me01:27
DocScrutinizer05but R_0=4 -> R_o´=4,7 also doesn't make sense to me01:29
LjLDocScrutinizer05, you hear all sorts of different number... R=1 turning into R=1.4 is based on a 0.4 increment, but that's the *low* boundary in the UK document01:32
LjLlet me show you the thing01:32
LjLi'd use the %links command but i'd almost certainly get it wrong01:32
LjLurgh01:33
LjLit WAS https://www.cogconsortium.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Report-1_COG-UK_19-December-2020_SARS-CoV-2-Mutations.pdf01:33
LjLbut now that's a 40401:33
LjLactually... no, that was the wrong document -.-01:36
LjLbut you can read it at https://web.archive.org/web/20201220230013/https://www.cogconsortium.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Report-1_COG-UK_19-December-2020_SARS-CoV-2-Mutations.pdf if you want01:36
LjLDocScrutinizer05, this is the one i was after https://khub.net/documents/135939561/338928724/SARS-CoV-2+variant+under+investigation%2C+meeting+minutes.pdf/962e866b-161f-2fd5-1030-32b6ab467896?t=160847051145201:37
LjLDocScrutinizer05, page 2 actually mention a 71% "growth rate", but i was thinking of the part that says "Studies  of  correlation  between  R-values  and detection  of  the  variant: which suggest an absolute increase in the R-value of between 0.39 to 0.93."01:38
LjLso yeah i don't know what "growth rate" actually means, but when they say it may be R_eff+0.40, they're probably taking that 0.39 lower boundary01:39
DocScrutinizer05that reporter had no clue either since he said 70% means 1.401:41
DocScrutinizer05which is suspiciously close to 1/0.701:42
LjLwell i don't know, maybe without that variant, the R_eff is lower than 1 in the UK now?01:43
LjLso whatever it is * 1.70 might be = 1.401:43
KREYRENWhat should my IGG value on SARS-CoV-2 be to make me immune agains Covid-19?01:44
KREYREN*igG01:44
DocScrutinizer05KREYREN: you need the *right* igG, not _enough_01:46
KREYRENDocScrutinizer05, apparently that's what they are measuring in the lab in brno O.o01:46
KREYRENsays igG agains SARS-CoV-201:46
LjLKREYREN, for all i know, if you have any detectable IgG at all, you may be immune01:46
LjLi'm not sure it has been measured in a more nuanced way than that01:46
KREYRENi see o.o01:47
DocScrutinizer05I rephrase: you need enough of the *right* igG, not _enough_01:47
LjLi think they'd have to wait until someone gets re-infected (with a "compatible" strain, one that dodges antibodies wouldn't count) and who happens to have had their IgG measured just prior01:47
LjLDocScrutinizer05, well i am assuming KREYREN is having SARS-CoV-2 IgG measured, not... i dunno... Epstein-Barr IgG, that would be silly :P01:48
KREYRENLjL, Epstein-Barr? O.o01:48
LjLKREYREN, just the first other virus i could think of. it's the one that gives you mononucleosis01:48
de-factoLjL, https://nextstrain.org/ncov/global then Color By "Genotype" then below choose the protein "S" then below enter the position 50101:48
KREYRENi see O.o 01:49
DocScrutinizer05LjL: I thought he was referring to his lab report on annual checkup01:49
KREYRENDocScrutinizer05, o.o 01:49
KREYRENyou can do annual checkups for these? O.o01:50
de-factoLjL, some build are different, e.g. containing the data https://nextstrain.org/groups/neherlab/ncov/S.N50101:50
BrainstormUpdates for Cyprus: +879 cases (now 18883), +8 deaths (now 104) since 2 days ago — Uruguay: +709 cases (now 14710), +8 deaths (now 128) since a day ago — Germany: +20765 cases (now 1.6 million) since 18 hours ago01:50
de-factoso thats a special build by neherlab01:50
LjLjust to make things more complicated -.-01:50
DocScrutinizer05https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immunoglobulin_G01:50
de-facto614 shows in the global01:51
LjLde-facto, is S.N501 the cluster that includes the UK variant?01:52
LjLwell i have to assume so with all the UK in it01:52
DocScrutinizer05you can even buy igG (aka Gammaglobulin) in every pharmacy on prescription01:52
KREYRENbtw. any info on the UK variable being detected outside of UK?01:52
KREYREN*variant01:53
DocScrutinizer05this is an unspecific mix from blood donations01:53
de-factointeresting there are also SA builds available https://nextstrain.org/ncov/africa?c=clade_membership&d=tree,map,frequencies&f_country=South%20Africa&p=grid&r=division&transmissions=hide01:53
LjLde-facto, but what did you mean with "containing the data"? those have the genome embedded?01:53
de-factoquite scary how quick that variant took over01:53
DocScrutinizer05I hope I'm not mistaken on Gamma = G01:54
de-factoLjL, actually i am not entirely sure, but https://twitter.com/firefoxx66 always talks about "new builds available" then links to them01:54
de-factoso i assume they compile those datasets in those builds or such01:54
euod[m]the takeaway mostly should just be that all countries should close their borders completely.01:56
euod[m]there's COVID19 everywhere, but new strains have a big risk.01:56
de-factothe takeaway should be that people should stay at home, contacts are the only way to transmit this01:57
LjLde-facto[m], but even in the API i cannot see actual genome. anyway, the API aren't exactly easy to navigate when all you have is the Firefox JSON renderer :P so i'll have to figure something out02:01
LjLde-facto[m], you can see the API for that dataset here https://nextstrain.org/charon/getDataset?prefix=/groups/neherlab/ncov/S.N50102:01
de-facto[m]Interesting but i gonna have to look tomorrow on that, im too tired to be useful02:03
DocScrutinizer05KREYREN: https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/immunoglobulin-therapy#102:18
DocScrutinizer05KREYREN: note how any such IVig therapy is useless against covid so far when using the regular pharmacy-provided stuff since that is naive against corona virus02:27
DocScrutinizer05that's what I meant you don't need enough, you need the right 02:27
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Estimated transmissibility and severity of novel SARS-CoV-2 Variant of Concern 202012/01 in England (81 votes) | https://cmmid.github.io/topics/covid19/uk-novel-variant.html | https://redd.it/kj10oz02:28
DocScrutinizer05they are already using this therapy for covid, from blood(-plasma) donors that recovered from covid02:34
LjL"We estimate that VOC 202012/01 is 56% more transmissible (95% credible interval across three regions 50-74%) than preexisting variants of SARS-CoV-2. We were unable to find clear evidence that VOC 202012/01 results in greater or lesser severity of disease than preexisting variants. Nevertheless, the increase in transmissibility is likely to lead to a large increase in incidence, with COVID-19 hospitalisations and deaths projected to reach higher levels in 02:37
LjL2021 than were observed in 2020, even if regional tiered restrictions implemented before 19 December are maintained."02:37
LjL"Our estimates suggest that control measures of a similar stringency to the national lockdown implemented in England in November 2020 are unlikely to reduce the effective reproduction number Rt to less than 1, unless primary schools, secondary schools, and universities are also closed."02:38
gigasu_shidascary ljl02:40
LjLgigasu_shida, here's a dissenting voice https://www.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/kj10oz/estimated_transmissibility_and_severity_of_novel/gguswmc/ and here's a more authoritative one, if you believe in authoritativeness, and also want to watch a long video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC8ObD2W4Rk (disclaimer: i haven't actually watched it all yet)02:41
gigasu_shidathanks ljl02:45
BrainstormUpdates for Afghanistan: +469 cases (now 51357), +30 deaths (now 2126) since 21 hours ago — Dem. Rep. Congo: +152 cases (now 15962), +196 deaths (now 566) since a day ago02:58
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CoronaBot04/r/coronavirus: 1 Million US citizens vaccinated against Coronavirus. (10138 votes) | https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations | https://redd.it/kiy9qf04:35
DocScrutinizer05200+ to go05:06
X-MAS_bunny!corona UK05:11
CoronaBotUK: Global rank: #6, cases: 2,149,551, fatalities: 69,051, active cases: -, total recovered: -, in a serious condition: 1,529. Mortality: 3.21%, case fatality rate: -, cases/1M: 31584.0, deaths/1M: 1015.0. Case rate: 39,237/24h, death rate: 744/24h. Tests: 51,747,003, tests/1M: 760,346.05:11
X-MAS_bunnyno active cases lol05:12
X-MAS_bunny!corona GB05:12
CoronaBotUK: Global rank: #6, cases: 2,149,551, fatalities: 69,051, active cases: -, total recovered: -, in a serious condition: 1,529. Mortality: 3.21%, case fatality rate: -, cases/1M: 31584.0, deaths/1M: 1015.0. Case rate: 39,237/24h, death rate: 744/24h. Tests: 51,747,003, tests/1M: 760,346.05:12
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Face coverings and respiratory tract droplet dispersion (80 votes) | https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsos.201663 | https://redd.it/kitl3i05:17
BrainstormNew from Reddit (test): nCoV: COVID-19: Variant behind surge in cases in England found in Northern Ireland and the Republic | 23DEC20 → https://is.gd/el9gzc05:27
LjLX-MAS_bunny, can you do that in PM with the bots if you are going to query a few countries with no particular context please?05:27
X-MAS_bunnycontext is "-"05:29
LjLX-MAS_bunny, it just doesn't help anyone else in the channel unless they're also curious about that particular country at that particular time... that's what i mean by context, if there's a discussion going on, sure, bring up the numbers. but if you just want to check, that's what PM is for05:30
X-MAS_bunnyso, now i have to query another one to figure out if bots problem, boris set all cases to NULL, or whatever05:34
X-MAS_bunnyand if there is not NO discussion keep calm, so we won't have one05:34
X-MAS_bunnyand: never do trust a statistic you haven't faked yourself 05:38
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Russia cuts size of COVID-19 vaccine study, stops enrollment → https://is.gd/R73g2b05:40
DocScrutinizer05X-MAS_bunny: I see your point (maybe not many do). Probably there are no reported numbers since "-" is not "0". Then, your tone doesn't exactly sound constructive05:42
X-MAS_bunnyokok, then i willdo something usefull like: Calculation of the resonance frequency of an oscillating circuit in relation to external influences on the magnetic field05:50
X-MAS_bunnynow all i want to say is it's useless to follow stats when you have not even a clue how such a model works05:56
gigasu_shidalol05:58
X-MAS_bunnyis it true that you are able to detroy everything when getting its resonance frequency?06:02
DocScrutinizer05OT#06:11
X-MAS_bunnyaha06:15
X-MAS_bunnyso it's OT that a virus has a resonance frequency like everything? 06:17
X-MAS_bunnyyes?06:17
DocScrutinizer05yes06:17
X-MAS_bunnyand also you won'tn think about to get rid of covid?06:17
DocScrutinizer05I'm thinking to get rif of sth else right now06:18
DocScrutinizer05rid*06:18
X-MAS_bunnydo your vaccination instead, lot of money06:18
BrainstormNew from This Week In Virology: TWiV 697: The sky is NOT falling: TWiV reviews the latest data on the UK variant of SARS-CoV-2, including some properties of the variant and why it is being closely studied, development of liver cancer in a participant in a adenovirus-associated virus gene therapy trial, and answers to listener questions. → https://is.gd/zsLeH606:19
X-MAS_bunnyuseless to talk to you, merry crisis and a happy new fear, god bless the sheeps.06:19
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Masks block 99.9% of large Covid-linked droplets: Study → https://is.gd/UvwWqE06:44
DocScrutinizer05>>Large respiratory droplets - which act like projectiles before being pulled toward the ground by gravity - are thought to be the main driver of Sars-CoV-2 transmission, he noted.<<  MEH! plain wrong06:52
DocScrutinizer05this is obsolete knowledge of like almost a year ago06:53
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express (Health): Food & Wine: Nutritional status strongly influences severity of Covid-19, genome mutations: Study → https://is.gd/VUhlEO06:57
BrainstormUpdates for Germany: +26173 cases (now 1.6 million), +598 deaths (now 28839) since 23 hours ago — Belgium: +3212 cases (now 632321), +118 deaths (now 18939) since a day ago — Bhutan: +37 cases (now 519) since 21 hours ago07:12
BrainstormUpdates for California, United States: +43986 cases (now 2.0 million), +319 deaths (now 23558) since 23 hours ago — Texas, United States: +21955 cases (now 1.6 million), +289 deaths (now 26406) since 23 hours ago — New York, United States: +11937 cases (now 878702), +152 deaths (now 36876) since 23 hours ago [... want %more?]07:18
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Singapore confirms first case of new coronavirus variant found in UK → https://is.gd/RX3CCT07:22
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express (Health): Life-style: A silent Christmas: Only virtual meetups, no midnight mass in pandemic → https://is.gd/cWcTXh08:26
DocScrutinizer05 +32,195 D08:48
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: The autopsy, a fading practice, revealed secrets of COVID-19 → https://is.gd/MTmzit08:52
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | December 24, 2020: The WHO pages contain up-to-date and global information. Please refer to our Wiki for additional information. → https://is.gd/jDO2Kw09:04
de-factoRKI Germany COVID-19 2020-12-24: Weekly Incidence 196.2, Infections +32195 (1587115 total), Fatalities +802 (28770 total), COVID@ICU 5265 (incl 2818 on ventilator)09:13
IndoAnonde-facto, marder https://a.uguu.se/GRxBo.PNG09:15
de-factoooh that looks delicious 09:20
BrainstormUpdates for Lithuania: +3795 cases (now 123889), +43 deaths (now 1186) since a day ago — Germany: +573 deaths (now 28841) since 16 hours ago09:35
BrainstormUpdates for Russia: +29935 cases (now 3.0 million), +635 deaths (now 53096) since a day ago09:41
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: One million Americans vaccinated for COVID; Tennessee new epicenter → https://is.gd/jVRjBN09:43
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Virus dampens holidays worldwide as vaccinations gather speed: Thousands of truckers endured Christmas Eve stranded near a major British port, ensnared in the chaos unleashed by a new coronavirus strain, as Western nations accelerated vaccination programmes. → https://is.gd/i9Yas709:55
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Israel announces third nationwide virus lockdown: Israel announced Thursday that it will impose a nationwide lockdown from next week, its third of the COVID-19 pandemic, just days after it began vaccinations against the virus. → https://is.gd/3x7mhV10:08
BrainstormNew from "Cluster 5" on Wikipedia: Yadsalohcin: 12 cases in humans: 12 cases in humans ← Previous revision Revision as of 09:12, 24 December 2020 Line 29: Line 29: ==== Political consequences ==== ==== Political consequences ==== It was revealed in late November that the [[Minister for Food, Agriculture and Fisheries (Denmark)|Minister for [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/74bzDF10:21
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Opinion: My first dose of a Covid-19 vaccine got me thinking about time: In the auditorium where I got vaccinated against Covid-19, the shot, I had a glimpse into a time when it will feel as archival as the 1918 flu. It will… → https://is.gd/t7CrhE10:47
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Opinion: Routine testing is essential to combat Covid-19 surges: Rapid-result Covid-19 testing can help halt the spread of the disease only if it is coupled with a strategy for what to do with positive results. → https://is.gd/3AeMji11:00
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Austria ski resorts reopen despite looming third lockdown: Austria allowed its more than 400 ski stations to open on Thursday, just two days before the country enters its third nationwide coronavirus lockdown. → https://is.gd/7cmGSk11:38
darsieWe just had a lockdown and recovered, now it's time for a bit skiing, then recover from that.11:40
de-factowithout apres ski hopefully11:46
darsiecertainly11:51
darsieProbably with take away from huts.11:51
darsieidk11:51
KREYRENhttps://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=5K7iolTpOkE O.o11:56
KREYRENapparently covid-19 causing autoimmune response in 12yo kid?11:56
de-factohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multisystem_inflammatory_syndrome_in_children11:58
KREYRENde-facto, thanks!12:01
BrainstormUpdates for Timor-Leste: +8 cases (now 41) since 23 hours ago12:35
BrainstormNew from NPR: Putin Promotes Homegrown COVID-19 Vaccine, But Most Russians Are Skeptical: The Russian leader has touted Sputnik V, as the vaccine is known, but more than half of Russians say they don't want to take it. → https://is.gd/ur2k9a12:43
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: COVID in Spain: ‘It felt like a war’ → https://is.gd/BxePfL12:56
BrainstormUpdates for UAE: +1311 cases (now 198435), +2 deaths (now 647) since a day ago13:06
LouisDuprBertoni%cases finland13:27
BrainstormLouisDuprBertoni: In Finland, there have been 34447 confirmed cases (0.6% of the population) and 524 deaths (1.5% of cases) as of 21 minutes ago. 2.4 million tests were performed (1.4% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 0.7% (assuming prevalence as in tests) and less than 2.0% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Finland for time series data.13:27
BrainstormNew from Scientific American: The U.K. Coronavirus Mutation Is Worrying but Not Terrifying: A view of an empty Regent Street as tier 4 coronavirus restrictions are in place to limit the spread of the new strain of coronavirus as the infections continue to rise, on December, 22, 2020 in London, England. → https://is.gd/NTxZ8G13:34
BrainstormUpdates for Germany: +27332 cases (now 1.6 million), +592 deaths (now 28860) since 20 hours ago13:49
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: mRNA vaccine CVnCoV protects non-human primates from SARS-CoV-2 challenge infection (80 votes) | https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.12.23.424138v1 | https://redd.it/kjccm613:50
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BrainstormNew from The Atlantic: 2020 Was a Terrible Year to Be Pregnant: So much is still unknown about pregnancy and COVID-19. We do know that contracting the disease comes with increased risk of severe illness, and a higher risk of preterm birth. But how an infection affects a person at different stages of pregnancy? Or a developing fetus? No one knows for [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/XjRgoi14:26
BrainstormUpdates for Gibraltar: +78 cases (now 1476) since 15 hours ago14:45
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: U.K. government confirms second strain of coronavirus → https://is.gd/jOYseO14:52
BrainstormUpdates for Switzerland: +4898 cases (now 428197), +38 deaths (now 7067) since 15 hours ago — Liechtenstein: +62 cases (now 1920) since a day ago15:16
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Separate new strain of coronavirus detected in Nigeria: African CDC → https://is.gd/BfHQUZ15:30
de-facto.title https://immunology.sciencemag.org/content/5/54/eabe024015:51
Brainstormde-facto: From immunology.sciencemag.org: Defining the features and duration of antibody responses to SARS-CoV-2 infection associated with disease severity and outcome | Science Immunology15:52
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Feds update immunization advice with Moderna vaccine approval: Moderna and Pfizer COVID-19 vaccines are similar enough that you can swap them in a pinch, according to the latest guidance from Canada's National Advisory Committee on Immunization (NACI). → https://is.gd/AYEAmZ15:56
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Researchers publish study on health effects and citizen resistance during the lockdown: The University of Alicante Public Health Research Group has just published the results of a study on the challenges of COVID-19 in Alicante; its effects on health and citizen resistance during confinement. The study was carried out during [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/jXZwU916:09
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Ukraine virus cases top one million: Ukraine's coronavirus caseload passed the one million mark on Thursday as the post-Soviet country's underfunded healthcare system struggles to contain a pre-holiday surge in infections. → https://is.gd/ToZmvm16:22
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Italy enters Christmas lockdown limiting holiday travel: Police in Italy enforced new COVID-19 travel restrictions aimed at limiting far-flung families from gathering over Christmas as public health officials appealed Thursday for people to use common sense to prevent new infections over the holidays. → https://is.gd/3xidN416:36
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: What's not being said about why African Americans need to take the COVID-19 vaccine: Dr. Anthony Fauci and other national health leaders have said that African Americans need to take the COVID-19 vaccine to protect their health. What Fauci and others have not stated is that if African Americans don't take the vaccine, the [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/TSUjng16:48
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Coronavirus: how the pandemic could play out in 2021: Vaccines for COVID-19 are now being rolled out, but in some parts of the world, this good news has been tempered by the emergence of new, potentially more infectious strains of the virus. Exactly how the pandemic will evolve has become more uncertain. → https://is.gd/7Ry3DF17:01
BrainstormUpdates for Netherlands: +11157 cases (now 732347), +95 deaths (now 10826) since 23 hours ago — Canada: +177 deaths (now 14613) since 23 hours ago17:01
BrainstormNew from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): The Safety and Efficacy of SCTA01 Against COVID-19 in Patients Admitted to High Dependence or Intensive Care → https://is.gd/Q90aUe17:40
BrainstormUpdates for Italy: +4628 cases (now 2.0 million) since 22 hours ago17:51
CoronaBot04/r/covid19: Low vitamin K status predicts mortality in a cohort of 138 hospitalized patients with COVID-19 (82 votes) | https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.12.21.20248613v1 | https://redd.it/kjc9ah18:16
BrainstormUpdates for Namibia: +942 cases (now 20579), +6 deaths (now 187) since 23 hours ago18:28
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Germany records first case of UK COVID strain: Germany on Thursday recorded its first case of the mutant coronavirus variant sweeping Britain, after a woman who flew in from London tested positive for the strain. → https://is.gd/RyDiG118:31
BrainstormNew from NPR: How The Rockets-Thunder Delay Could Foreshadow Challenges To This NBA Season: The NBA postponed the Wednesday game after three Rockets players had positive or inconclusive coronavirus tests and four others were in quarantine. It left the team without enough players to play. → https://is.gd/bKZgGK18:44
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Virus strain to cause more deaths in Britain: study: A mutated coronavirus strain spreading in Britain is on average 56 percent more contagious than the original version, scientists have warned in a study, urging a fast vaccine rollout to help prevent more deaths. → https://is.gd/loEwD518:57
BrainstormUpdates for Spain: +13328 cases (now 1.9 million), +126 deaths (now 49824) since 23 hours ago — United Kingdom: +11985 cases (now 2.2 million), +174 deaths (now 69278) since 11 hours ago — Eritrea: +74 cases (now 951) since a day ago19:18
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Caring for elderly loved ones during a holiday lockdown: (HealthDay)—While everyone is dealing with the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic, older adults may feel the loss of holiday traditions the most. → https://is.gd/WlNee019:22
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: A Space to Share Some Holiday Cheer: With the holidays looking different this year, we wanted to create a space to spread a little holiday cheer on the sub. This thread is for anybody looking for a place to talk or share what is making their day festive. → https://is.gd/C8b1wu19:48
BrainstormUpdates for France: +189 deaths (now 62115) since 23 hours ago20:26
BrainstormNew from NPR: California Is First State To Hit 2 Million Cases, And Hospitals Are Out Of ICU Beds: Cases in the state have skyrocketed over the last two months, and the ICU capacity is now zero in Southern California and the San Joaquin Valley. → https://is.gd/yCCwOI20:37
BrainstormNew from Virology.ws: SARS-CoV-2 UK variant: Does it matter?: A variant of SARS-CoV-2 has been spreading within England, and it has been suggested that this virus is more transmissible. In this video Vincent explains the properties of the SARS-CoV-2 UK variant and why claims that it is more transmissible are not supported by experimental data. This [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/OTtpZt20:49
BrainstormUpdates for Jersey: +349 cases (now 2583), +5 deaths (now 41) since 5 days ago — Eswatini: +164 cases (now 8032), +1 deaths (now 154) since a day ago — Guernsey: +6 cases (now 297) since 9 days ago21:16
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Putin Promotes Homegrown COVID-19 Vaccine, But Most Russians Are Skeptical → https://is.gd/TApjlA22:17
de-facto.title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha2mLz-Xdpg <-- darsie maybe your 4000 IU D3 are not such a bad idea after all23:24
Brainstormde-facto: From www.youtube.com: Vitamin D and COVID 19: The Evidence for Prevention and Treatment of Coronavirus (SARS CoV 2) - YouTube23:24
darsie.23:24
BrainstormUpdates for South Africa: +14305 cases (now 968563), +326 deaths (now 25983) since a day ago — France: +12472 cases (now 2.5 million), +233 deaths (now 62211) since 22 hours ago — Canada: +5385 cases (now 534344), +111 deaths (now 14695) since 22 hours ago23:32
darsiede-facto: I just dug up my bloodwork: Vitamin D-(25-OH): 31.8 ng/ml. <10=deficient, 10-20=insufficient, 30-100=sufficient, >100=toxic.23:49
darsieMedcram says <30=deficient, 30-50=insufficient, 51-70=optimal, 71-100=heart disease or cancer, >100=too high - but also says differenc organizations have different limits.23:49
LjLuhm, "sufficient" does seem quite different from "heart disease or cancer" though23:59

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