| finely[m] | <Arsanerit "rmonten: I agree, but it seems m"> rmonten: India and Brazil have very large pharmaceutical industries. If mRNA techniques are put in the public domain and technical support is given, even new techniques can scale extremely fast. It doesn't seen like this is going to happen though, as big pharma has long put profits over the health of people. | 00:01 |
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| Arsanerit | finely[m]: Ok. | 00:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Pope Francis has called for an end to “violence and extremism” in his opening address on the first-ever papal visit to Iraq, long scarred by war and now gripped by the coronavirus pandemic. → https://is.gd/xGGJic | 00:17 |
| Brainstorm | New from FDA Press Releases: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Update: FDA Authorizes Adaptive Biotechnologies T-Detect COVID Test: The U.S. Food and Drug Administration issued an emergency use authorization for the T-Detect COVID Test developed by Adaptive Biotechnologies. The T-Detect COVID Test is a next generation sequencing based test to aid in identifying [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/P8AMz0 | 00:28 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Lancet (Online): [Correspondence] Sex-disaggregated data in COVID-19 vaccine trials: As the first wave of COVID-19 vaccines enter the market, and global immunisation programmes are implemented, the time is right to remind researchers and regulatory agencies of the critical importance of including biological sex as a variable in trial data [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/yluBdj | 00:38 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Germany: +9574 cases (now 2.5 million) since 23 hours ago — United Kingdom: +5228 cases (now 4.2 million), +235 deaths (now 124260) since 21 hours ago — Canada: +3034 cases (now 881614), +45 deaths (now 22171) since 23 hours ago — Netherlands: +3737 cases (now 1.1 million) since 22 hours ago | 00:38 |
| pwr22 | https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/local-news/surge-testing-extended-hunt-cases-5072500.amp | 00:48 |
| pwr22 | Oof, Brazil variant round the corner from me | 00:48 |
| asdflkj | .title https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/local-news/surge-testing-extended-hunt-cases-5072500.amp | 00:50 |
| Brainstorm | asdflkj: From www.bristolpost.co.uk: South Gloucestershire Covid surge testing extended in hunt for Brazil variant - Bristol Live | 00:50 |
| rmonten[m] | Arsanerit: I didn't mean to suggest that export was the primary factor for the delays in the EU. I don't think it's nearly the main reason and even if it was I wouldn't be against exports. | 00:54 |
| rmonten[m] | finely: I thought so too, that putting everything in the public domain would help scale up production very quickly, but apparently that's not correct. https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2021/02/02/myths-of-vaccine-manufacturing | 00:56 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: China, U.S. should tackle epidemic together: spokesperson → https://is.gd/KBxrye | 01:30 |
| -Synapsestorm- ⭕ Earthquake! Rūwhenua! 6.3 Mww tremor, registered by CI,US,quakenotices, occurred 51 minutes ago (00:16:21 UTC), during daytime, Off E. Coast Of N. Island, N.Z. (-37.6, 179.6), ↓10 km likely felt 330 km away (in Gisborne…) by 34400 people — Webcams: https://www.windy.com/webcams/1581016646 https://www.windy.com/webcams/1180633214 https://www.windy.com/webcams/1359671188 (service.iris.edu) | 02:08 | |
| dTal | whut | 02:17 |
| dTal | since when do we get global earthquake notifications in ##covid-q9 | 02:18 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Paraguay: +1501 cases (now 165811), +22 deaths (now 3278) since 23 hours ago — France: +18384 cases (now 3.9 million) since 23 hours ago — Seychelles: +2 deaths (now 15) since 6 hours ago | 02:18 |
| dTal | er, ##covid-19 | 02:18 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Health: FDA authorizes new test, built with machine learning, to detect past Covid-19 infections → https://is.gd/yjuZJU | 02:22 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: The Czech Republic has asked Germany, Switzerland and Poland to take in dozens of COVID-19 patients as the situation in its own hospitals has reached a critical point, Prague’s Health Ministry said. → https://is.gd/Ppqtl2 | 02:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Stop 'whining,' Bolsonaro tells Brazilians after record Covid deaths → https://is.gd/69sYZM | 02:43 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: WHO Chief Calls Out Rich Countries For Not Sharing Vaccine Doses → https://is.gd/JHJbD6 | 02:53 |
| pigassu | + On the same day Texas governor Greg Abbott declares the end of the state’s mask mandate and that all businesses can reopen to 100% capacity, Houston became the first city in the US to record patients infected with every major variant of the COVID virus. | 03:16 |
| asdflkj | reee its reddit | 03:20 |
| asdflkj | LjL: is teddit really harder than :s/old.reddit.com/teddit.net/g ? | 03:21 |
| pigassu | https://www.labor.ucla.edu/publication/fast-food-covid19/ | 03:23 |
| LjL | asdflkj, i don't know, i've been doing other things now, i just know that reddit rss itself is temperamental and it's not clear what result you're going to obtain when given certain inputs (it doesn't really mirror the webpage with the same inputs), so i've tweaked them a fair bit, and it may not be identical | 03:45 |
| LjL | dTal, since always, actually. they just need to be big ones. | 03:46 |
| ryouma | you probably already saw this but body politic statement https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m8-2WklPS_n2IuIl-ycm58fHSlKV9RP8g-lxqf3=NjOk/edit | 03:52 |
| pigassu | + Meanwhile, P.1 variant is roaring through the Brazilian city of Manaus in Amazonia, inflicting more deaths in January and February of this year than in all of 2020. | 03:52 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: World Health Organization to publish report into origins of covid-19 virus - NZ Herald → https://is.gd/jEAigT | 04:06 |
| ryouma | are the vaccines covering new variants? | 04:12 |
| qkall | ryouma: from what i read - so far pfiezers and the moderma are effective ... but i haven't been keeping up the past couple weeks... distracted | 04:20 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: UK says vaccine shipment from India won’t hurt poor nations → https://is.gd/Q5c1C5 | 04:36 |
| LjL | ryouma, mostly not so much. AZ fails miserably with the SA variant, although there is hope (but only hope) that it can still keep severe disease from developing. J&J still protects but at quite a lower rate. as to mRNA qkall may be right that they are still effective but we don't *know*, they did some in vitro studies that suggest neutralization activity goes down a lot, but may still suffice | 04:41 |
| LjL | that's the SA variant, and perhaps (less studied i think) the Brazil variant | 04:41 |
| LjL | the UK variant is more contagious and, at this point i think it's clear, more severe, but the vaccines do seem to cover it | 04:41 |
| de-facto | .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjtAvFDwlR4 "Spahn und Wieler zur aktuellen Corona-Lage" | 04:43 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.youtube.com: Spahn und Wieler zur aktuellen Corona-Lage - YouTube | 04:43 |
| LjL | uhm i thought danes figured out yesterday that the UK variant does seem more severe for them as well, but "danish" or "denmark" don't yield the obvious hits in the logs, pfft. | 04:43 |
| LjL | i should have learned by now to save links as soon as i see them, or i won't find them again | 04:46 |
| de-facto | i still am a bit skeptical about if current generation vaccines really have such big differences in regard to protect against the SA variant | 04:47 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for France: +17940 cases (now 3.9 million), +436 deaths (now 88274) since 21 hours ago — Netherlands: +3389 cases (now 1.1 million), +25 deaths (now 15810) since 21 hours ago — United Kingdom: +4642 cases (now 4.2 million), +179 deaths (now 124261) since 21 hours ago — Germany: +290 deaths (now 72297) since 12 hours ago | 04:47 |
| LjL | de-facto, what doesn't convince you about the AZ trial that showed about 20 COVID cases in the vaccine arm and 20 in the placebo arm? | 04:48 |
| de-facto | if a soldier is not really effective just bringing more of them on the battlefield to overwhelm the enemy does not sounds as effective to me as updating the soldiers equipment | 04:49 |
| LjL | well, it is no mystery that i am not a fan of AZ and wish the other vaccines could be used more, and AZ quite possibly phased out | 04:50 |
| LjL | which is just not possible at the moment, no matter my wishes | 04:50 |
| de-facto | yet the viral vector vaccines are important because they are more advanced in some ways compared to the mRNA vaccines (e.g. using stable DNA that allows for a much simpler cooling chain, using a real virus to enter cells, probably alerting more immune response mechanisms etc) | 04:53 |
| LjL | that would be all well and good if it worked | 04:53 |
| de-facto | but yeah it comes with a price, for example immune reaction against the viral vector etc | 04:54 |
| de-facto | imho all manufacturers should work on updating their signatures and improving their platform | 04:54 |
| de-facto | even the production of the viral vector vaccines is much cooler, does not require LNPs or such, the just are grown in cell lines that were modified to contain what they stole from the Adenovirus in order to make it replication-deficient | 04:56 |
| de-facto | but as it seems it takes longer time to update them, at least that is what i heard in some podcast iirc | 04:57 |
| de-facto | not sure due to what reason | 04:57 |
| ryouma | where are the variants? are they all over? i am just wondering if where i am will have another spike | 04:58 |
| LjL | de-facto, did you see this https://www.bbc.com/news/health-56284155 which while not "of concern" yet contains your favorite E484K? | 04:58 |
| LjL | ryouma, you will | 04:58 |
| LjL | ryouma, the UK variant is pretty much all over, the other ones less so, but they will be | 04:58 |
| de-facto | id assume the adenovirus vectors are already prepared as a "toolbox" so it should not be that difficult to integrate DNA recipe for an updated S-protein | 04:58 |
| de-facto | if they have the exact new sequence in their computers, why not just print it out? | 04:59 |
| ryouma | good point about the vector potentially causing more symptoms. i kne3w somebody who had lupus who got really bad and had to stop working because she caught a cold. | 05:00 |
| de-facto | btw in regard to the variants, have you read this here? | 05:00 |
| de-facto | .title https://www.uk-cpi.com/news/cpi-receives-5million-investment-from-uk-government-to-develop-library-of-mrna-vaccines-to-help-fight-new-covid-19-variants | 05:00 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.uk-cpi.com: CPI receives £5million investment from UK Government to develop… | CPI | 05:00 |
| de-facto | LjL, interesting so E484K also in UK variants, i think we discussed about that some time ago from the perspective of convergent mutations | 05:02 |
| de-facto | the question being if the environment (e.g. partial immunity) gives always rise to the same (independently) occurring mutations (e.g. E484K) or if due to still tolerating massive international travel and spread of variants it may also just have been mixed in by viral recombination e.g. via coinfection | 05:05 |
| de-facto | in that light i also wonder if the previous strategy to pack together all COVID patients in the same hospital area (not isolating from each others) is such a brilliant idea | 05:05 |
| de-facto | previously it was like virtually the same variant (not much difference in terms of immune evasion etc), but now with the variants becoming more and more orthogonal in terms of immune evasion the question might be asked if for example a patient currently fighting with D614G and then hospitalized and additionally exposed to say B.1.351 might have an immunological disadvantage (on short term) from that | 05:07 |
| ryouma | what proportion of international travel is really necessary (subjectively)? i can understand shipments of goods, preventing war, whatever. but tourism... | 05:08 |
| de-facto | and ofc also if coinfections with several variants would be the result, them being present in the same cell and recombining, can they possibly escape the hospital, e.g. via personal or such and begin to spread in the population? | 05:08 |
| LjL | ryouma, tourism is an irresponsible attempt to "save the economy" while really digging its grave, and people's graves too | 05:08 |
| ryouma | that is my intuition also | 05:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Senate Democrats reach deal on jobless aid in Biden’s $1.9 trillion COVID-19 bill → https://is.gd/h8C9cx | 05:29 |
| finely[m] | <rmonten[m] "finely: I thought so too, that p"> Interesting article. It talks about the bottleneck of mRNA vaccines being the specialised microfluidic machines for lipid nanoparticle manufacture. Of course open access to information about these machines would allow physicists all over the world to work on these new problems. | 05:53 |
| CoronaBot | /r/coronavirus: Deaths fall by 41% in past week as 40% UK adult population vaccinated (10066 votes) | https://www.itv.com/news/2021-03-05/covid-deaths-fall-by-41-in-past-week-as-40-uk-adult-population-vaccinated-matt-hancock-announces | https://redd.it/lyiwwn | 05:53 |
| rmonten[m] | finely: right this is the time to do away with (or at least temporarily suspend) the patents, I'm all for it. Its just that that would probably only be the first step in a very long process that wouldn't crank out a single additional dose of vaccine in the first several months | 06:38 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Belgium: +2759 cases (now 783010), +19 deaths (now 22215) since 23 hours ago | 06:46 |
| Brainstorm | New preprint: SARS-CoV-2 antibody magnitude and detectability are driven by disease severity, timing, and assay by Michael J Peluso et al, made available as preprint on 2021-03-05 at https://medrxiv.org/cgi/content/short/2021.03.03.21251639 [... want %more?] | 06:58 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: US billionaires 'have received $1.1tn windfall in Covid pandemic' → https://is.gd/coN3kt | 07:11 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Fire, smoke, gunshots in Paraguay capital as pandemic response ignites protests → https://is.gd/WDKiKr | 07:22 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Joe Biden urged not to accept India, South Africa’s proposal at WTO on COVID-19 vaccine → https://is.gd/LbDpM4 | 07:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: WHO head wants virus vaccine patents waived to boost supply → https://is.gd/EPEWuz | 07:53 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Zakarpattia Oblast, Ukraine: +748 cases (now 42839), +12 deaths (now 968) since a day ago — Los Rios, Chile: +306 cases (now 20518), +4 deaths (now 244) since a day ago — France: +11977 cases (now 3.9 million) since 9 hours ago — Lombardy, Italy: +5210 cases (now 623952), +61 deaths (now 28638) since a day ago | 08:20 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Governor of São Paulo tells CNN: "We have two viruses to combat in Brazil -- the coronavirus and Bolsonaro virus." - CNN Video → https://is.gd/13ign4 | 08:33 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | March 06, 2021: The World Health Organization maintains up-to-date and global information. Please refer to our Wiki for additional information. You can find answers to frequently asked questions about Covid-19 and vaccines in our FAQ . → https://is.gd/uVt2W9 | 09:04 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Hungary: +7269 cases (now 459816), +146 deaths (now 15765) since 23 hours ago | 10:12 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Tibetan spiritual leader Dalai Lama gets vaccine shot → https://is.gd/gkBzod | 10:16 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Speedy variants power virus surge sweeping Europe: The virus swept through a nursery school and an adjacent elementary school in the Milan suburb of Bollate with amazing speed. In a matter of just days, 45 children and 14 staff members had tested positive. → https://is.gd/BH30LI | 10:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: China confirms African swine fever outbreaks in Sichuan, Hubei provinces → https://is.gd/bBEGT6 | 11:49 |
| Brainstorm | New from Politico: EU seeks closer cooperation with US on vaccine supplies: US is home to one of three plants authorized by European regulator to produce AstraZeneca vaccine. → https://is.gd/8FniIB | 12:09 |
| Arsanerit | 00:54:46 < rmonten[m]> Arsanerit: I didn't mean to suggest that export was the primary factor for the delays in the EU. I don't think it's nearly the main reason and even if it was I wouldn't be against exports. | 12:37 |
| Arsanerit | rmonten[m]: It's not? I suppose not. I don't know. | 12:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: China confirms African swine fever outbreaks in Sichuan, Hubei provinces → https://is.gd/1zGDTz | 12:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Art and Culture: Berlin’s custodians of silence look forward to museums reopening → https://is.gd/SeyscY | 13:01 |
| EricShmart | hello | 13:33 |
| de-facto | hello | 13:48 |
| CoronaBot | /r/covid19: SARS-CoV-2 antibodies detected in human breast milk post-vaccination (80 votes) | https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.02.23.21252328v1 | https://redd.it/lyvtgi | 13:50 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): Covid2019: A future COVID-19 vaccine could be squirted up the nose. The nasal spray could stop transmission, especially in kids. → https://is.gd/57nL6x | 14:14 |
| Brainstorm | New from Gazzetta Ufficiale italiana: MINISTERO DELLA SALUTE - ORDINANZA 5 marzo 2021: Ulteriori misure urgenti in materia di contenimento e gestionedell'emergenza epidemiologica da COVID-19 nella Regione Campania.(21A01467) → https://is.gd/b8h1Ey | 14:35 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Somalia: +191 cases (now 8041), +20 deaths (now 294) since a day ago | 14:47 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): China_Flu: Proof Wuhan Lab Manipulated Coronaviruses → https://is.gd/rxzfAo | 15:27 |
| Brainstorm | New from This Week In Virology: TWiV 727: COVID-19 clinical update #52 with Dr. Daniel Griffin: In COVID-19 clinical update #52, Daniel Griffin reviews differences in attack rates between children and adults, J&J vaccine phase III data, G6PD deficiency and vaccines, NIH halts convalescent plasma trial, dexamethasone in hospitalized patients, data on [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/r99EvM | 15:59 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Germany: +8664 cases (now 2.5 million) since 23 hours ago | 16:20 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Covid-19 death rates 10 times higher in countries where most adults are overweight, report finds → https://is.gd/gGpvqc | 16:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): Saturday 06 March 2021 Update: submitted by /u/HippolasCage to r/CoronavirusUK → https://is.gd/X4EdpJ | 17:12 |
| CoronaBot | /r/coronavirus: 87.6% of Japanese want the Olympics cancelled or postponed to at least next year due to COVID (10243 votes) | https://bunshun.jp/articles/-/43846 | https://redd.it/lyxntb | 17:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from NPR: The Dalai Lama Gets A COVID-19 Shot, Urges Others To Get Vaccinated: The 85-year-old Tibetan spiritual leader scrapped plans to receive the injection at home, opting instead to travel to a clinic. "More people should have courage to take this injection," he said. → https://is.gd/xnDki3 | 17:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Tibetan spiritual leader Dalai Lama gets vaccine shot → https://is.gd/Myc7u8 | 17:53 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Jamaica: +527 cases (now 25303), +3 deaths (now 446) since 23 hours ago — Italy: +7871 cases (now 3.0 million), +307 deaths (now 99578) since 23 hours ago — Isle of Man: +71 cases (now 676) since 23 hours ago — Netherlands: +5135 cases (now 1.1 million), +38 deaths (now 15832) since 23 hours ago | 18:13 |
| kjd | facemask on | 18:30 |
| pigughs | Arizona’s governor is lifting capacity limits on businesses and restaurants, but masks are still recommended. lol "recommended" | 18:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from NPR: Senate Passes $1.9 Trillion Coronavirus Relief Package: The package delivers a new round of financial assistance to Americans grappling with the impact of the pandemic. The House will need to vote on the final version. → https://is.gd/wtzwiy | 18:34 |
| Arsanerit | pigughs: Sounds like Sweden. | 18:34 |
| Arsanerit | Isle of Man cases increased by more than 10% since 23 hours ago? | 18:35 |
| pigughs | !cases sweden | 18:35 |
| CovBot | In Sweden there have been a total of 684,961 cases as of 2021-03-06 16:05:02 UTC. Of these 671,958 (98.1%) are still sick or may have recovered without being recorded, 0 (0.0%) have definitely recovered and 13,003 (1.9%) have died. | 18:35 |
| Arsanerit | I mean, Sweden doesn't mandate masks anywhere. | 18:36 |
| pigughs | yes what else is there to say at this stage | 18:36 |
| kjd | !cases india | 18:37 |
| CovBot | In India there have been a total of 11,204,179 cases as of 2021-03-06 16:59:00 UTC. Of these 185,917 (1.7%) are still sick or may have recovered without being recorded, 10,860,512 (96.9%) have definitely recovered and 157,750 (1.4%) have died. | 18:37 |
| pigughs | Arsanerit: are you on the isle of man? | 18:37 |
| kjd | !cases world | 18:37 |
| CovBot | In World there have been a total of 117,446,070 cases as of 2021-03-06 16:59:00 UTC. Of these 22,400,014 (19.1%) are still sick or may have recovered without being recorded, 92,441,062 (78.7%) have definitely recovered and 2,604,994 (2.2%) have died. | 18:37 |
| Arsanerit | pigughs: Not at the moment, no. | 18:38 |
| pigughs | isn't that part of the uk | 18:39 |
| Arsanerit | More or less. | 18:45 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Vaccine candidate shows signs of protection against dozen-plus flu strains, raising the prospect of a universal flu vaccine. → https://is.gd/L29ktO | 19:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Health: Multilayer masks most effective at preventing aerosol generation: Study → https://is.gd/lhrA12 | 19:17 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: France extends weekend lockdown to northern region: Hundreds of thousands of people in northern France went back into lockdown Saturday, while health officials stepped up a nationwide vaccination campaign to make up ground after a slow start. → https://is.gd/UnqnOB | 20:08 |
| ryouma | what about the cities? the case rate is still 3 times the very high baseline rate that occurred afdte3r the previous increase in the summer --- 10:34 <pigughs> Arizona’s governor is lifting capacity limits on businesses and restaurants, but masks are still recommended. lol "recommended" | 20:12 |
| pigughs | ryouma: not sure what you mean, | 20:15 |
| pigughs | i think they are all neanderthals, but then I'm not a SBO | 20:15 |
| ryouma | cities make their own orders if state allows that. there was a big surge in the summer. that one returned to a HIGH baseline. then there was a much larger surge that has gone down some. but it is still 3x higher than that high baseline. clearer? | 20:16 |
| ryouma | pigughs: | 20:16 |
| ryouma | what is an sbo | 20:16 |
| ryouma | "Double-layered masks were better (about 91 per cent was blocked), but more than a quarter of the daughter droplets that were generated were in the size range of aerosols. Droplet transmission and generation was either negligible or zero for triple-layered and N95 masks" | 20:33 |
| CoronaBot | /r/covid19: Ridgeback Biotherapeutics and Merck Announce Preliminary Findings from a Phase 2a Trial of Investigational COVID-19 Therapeutic Molnupiravir (86 votes) | https://www.merck.com/news/ridgeback-biotherapeutics-and-merck-announce-preliminary-findings-from-a-phase-2a-trial-of-investigational-covid-19-therapeutic-molnupiravir/ | https://redd.it/lyywqe | 20:40 |
| LjL | ryouma, double and triple layered meaning cloth masks? | 20:55 |
| ryouma | that is from the indian newspaper linked above | 20:56 |
| ryouma | repairman for further work uses "armor under" or "under armor" masks which are polyester somethign or other. if it is a big job maybe i should tape the valve of an n95 and give to him. | 20:58 |
| ryouma | it sounds bad to turn droplets into aerosols | 20:58 |
| LjL | it does | 21:04 |
| ryouma | perhaps 2 layers https://www.underarmour.com/en-us/p/ua-sportsmask/1368010.html | 21:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): China_Flu: The WHO needs to start over in investigating the origins of the coronavirus → https://is.gd/F4PCFS | 21:31 |
| derpadmin | anything that start by China_Flu I won't read | 21:40 |
| derpadmin | lol | 21:40 |
| Arsanerit | derpadmin: How about "British variant"? | 21:42 |
| derpadmin | Arsanerit, I prefer b117 variant | 21:44 |
| derpadmin | but China_Flu was Trump way of calling it, I prefer the name of the actual disease... the name of this very channel... you know... | 21:44 |
| Arsanerit | derpadmin: Me too, but isn't British variant as bad as China Flu? | 21:45 |
| derpadmin | hmm, I think I have a problem with the subreddit | 21:46 |
| derpadmin | Brainstorm> New from Reddit (test): China_Flu: Proof Wuhan Lab Manipulated Coronaviruses → https://is.gd/rxzfAo | 21:46 |
| derpadmin | I think this would be all over the news no? | 21:46 |
| derpadmin | points to a youtube video... | 21:46 |
| derpadmin | looks like either desinformation, or unconfirmed allegations (might be true still) | 21:48 |
| derpadmin | but yeah, will not take my information from a youtuber, even if he wears a tie | 21:49 |
| derpadmin | China_Flu wording is not so bad in itself... | 21:53 |
| derpadmin | but that subreddit have some official sources, and some more doubtful sources | 21:53 |
| LjL | I'm having power surges, turning off server and bot | 21:54 |
| kjd | so glad these commentaries aren't scientists, if not the world would be doomed | 21:58 |
| pigughs | ryouma: small biz owner | 21:59 |
| derpadmin | so yeah, that subreddit linked stuff from a website called americanpeoplenews.com (domain was registered in 2017) | 22:03 |
| derpadmin | the article itself quote someone from "the sun online" without reference to the site (thesun.co.uk ??) | 22:03 |
| derpadmin | perhaps that subreddit should just be removed from the channel feed here... reddit moderators are no doctors :) | 22:04 |
| derpadmin | any mod around? | 22:04 |
| derpadmin | Synapsestorm, ^ | 22:05 |
| genera | i think there is more than one Sun | 22:06 |
| pigughs | derpadmin: here's a hint, conspiracy chasing is a waste of time& energy | 22:07 |
| derpadmin | genera, right, but a link to the source would have been appreciated | 22:08 |
| derpadmin | pigughs, agree, but I don't think we should relay any unverified information because a reddit moderator think it is ok | 22:08 |
| derpadmin | there is a reason he is a reddit moderator and not a brain surgeon :) | 22:09 |
| pigughs | oh sorry, if I misread your position on it | 22:10 |
| derpadmin | ah, no prob | 22:10 |
| derpadmin | but I do enjoy coming here for the feed of news... and I don't think reddit China_Flu should be part of it | 22:11 |
| LjL | OH NO AN RSS BOT FAILED TO USE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE TO EXCLUDE A BAD ITEM FROM SHOWING | 22:12 |
| LjL | i will certainly have to fix this | 22:12 |
| * LjL adds it to his "to do in the future" list | 22:12 | |
| derpadmin | hahahaa | 22:13 |
| derpadmin | if link not in ReliableSources: | 22:15 |
| derpadmin | ah, there was a link https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14147270/wuhan-lab-database-hidden-china-covid-smoking-gun/ | 22:16 |
| ryouma | you can hafve group(s of doctors being deliberately unreliable spereading disinformation for a century. finding reliable sources is not trivial. | 22:17 |
| ryouma | now, infiltrating organizations (void where prohibited) and getting documents or doing foia and so on might be more reliable. also legal discovery in criminal and civil trials. | 22:18 |
| ryouma | reliable stuff does emerge | 22:18 |
| ryouma | but that needs to be sped up from "many years later" to "within the career of the perpetrator at the very least" | 22:19 |
| derpadmin | hmm, yes, CIA conducted experiments with LSD here in Montreal Canada many years ago and mental health facilities | 22:27 |
| derpadmin | *at | 22:27 |
| derpadmin | it sure did not made the news back then | 22:27 |
| ryouma | i presume cold war related. yeah. and often such things are blamed on the victims. for example all in your head. in the case of techa river radiation poisoning in theussr the victims, one child of whom had an eye on his forehead, were blamed for being drunks. | 22:32 |
| ryouma | so this whole getting reliable sources thing needs to be high priority | 22:32 |
| derpadmin | I guess it can be hard to achieve if you have state level desinformation | 22:35 |
| derpadmin | there is a reason why wikileaks exist... | 22:35 |
| ryouma | but occurs quite a lot without that level of state stuff | 22:37 |
| ryouma | but yeah states can make it worse | 22:37 |
| LjL | now if my honorable electricity provider company kindly stops surging my powers, i will be most delighted and all here will enjoy dodgy bot news again, thank you very much | 23:09 |
| ketas | why not to have ups? | 23:14 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for France: +23330 cases (now 3.9 million), +264 deaths (now 88438) since 20 hours ago — Netherlands: +5126 cases (now 1.1 million) since 22 hours ago | 23:14 |
| ryouma | in some places apparently it is normal for consumers to purchase power regulator devices | 23:17 |
| ryouma | for their whole house | 23:17 |
| kjd | living in the 22nd century | 23:21 |
| ryouma | because bad power | 23:22 |
| LjL | ryouma, in some places it's normal to have so-called "inverters" (which include an inverter, but mainly they are very large batteries) to continue having AC power, at least for lighting and such, during frequent long power outages | 23:25 |
| ryouma | sounds like giant ups | 23:28 |
| LjL | urgh | 23:29 |
| LjL | this time it was my server (and me) being dumb, not a surge | 23:30 |
| LjL | apparently last time i tinkered with the server i re-enabled gdm, and apparently gdm tells the computer to go into standby if no input for ten minutes or something | 23:30 |
| LjL | but as i was saying | 23:30 |
| LjL | <LjL> ryouma, in some places it's normal to have so-called "inverters" (which include an inverter, but mainly they are very large batteries) to continue having AC power, at least for lighting and such, during frequent long power outages | 23:31 |
| LjL | <LjL> sometimes when my power glitches i've thought of buying a cheap UPS for my so-called server, but then i realize that 1) cheap UPS's don't have an interface to tell the computer to shut itself down, and 2) i suspect they may introduce more power issues than they solve | 23:31 |
| LjL | <LjL> plus i'm going to lose internet anyway if there's an outage because the router is not where the server is | 23:31 |
| ryouma | there is some issue with square waves and psu | 23:31 |
| LjL | yeah the guy i know about inverters from mentioned that he found that out at some point, some devices were not to be connected to the inverter or they might become very unhappy | 23:32 |
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| ketas | reminds me i have 1.5kva online ups to install | 23:41 |
| ketas | :) | 23:41 |
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| ketas | nothing wrong with power, it's just sane to finally have all sensitive equipment protected | 23:42 |
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