de-facto | .title https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-56556806 | 00:14 |
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Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.bbc.com: Covid: Secret filming exposes contamination risk at test results lab - BBC News | 00:14 |
de-facto | hmm maybe they need a slap in the face or such? | 00:15 |
Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Stanford Scientists Reverse Engineer Moderna Vaccine, Post Code on Github → https://is.gd/jiGQaJ | 00:29 |
Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Fewer people sought medical help for severe asthma attacks during the COVID-19 pandemic: Fewer patients with severe attacks were seen by their GP or admitted to hospital during the COVID-19 pandemic, and fewer were admitted to hospital for pneumonia, influenza and chronic lung diseases, show findings from three papers published [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/9leSly | 00:39 |
Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: (news): Evidence mounts Covid jab protects those around you → https://is.gd/aXTfrM | 01:51 |
LjL | <CoronaBot> /r/coronavirus: One dose of Pfizer or Moderna vaccines was 80% effective in preventing Covid in CDC study of health workers (1007 votes) | 01:54 |
LjL | <CoronaBot> https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/29/cdc-study-shows-single-dose-of-pfizer-or-moderna-covid-vaccines-was-80percent-effective.html | https://redd.it/mfrhov | 01:54 |
LjL | (this is about PCR-positive, not just symptomatic) | 01:54 |
rpifan | great but there arent enough to go around anyway | 02:03 |
rpifan | so who cares | 02:03 |
LjL | hmm? | 02:05 |
rpifan | Evidence mounts Covid jab protects those around you | 02:05 |
LjL | well given the amount of cases still rising, evidently people go around other people | 02:07 |
de-facto | interesting, how often did they test? | 02:16 |
de-facto | and when did they collect data? was it D614G? | 02:17 |
de-facto | "Dec. 14 and March 13" ok probably D614G then | 02:18 |
de-facto | .title https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7013e3.htm | 02:21 |
Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.cdc.gov: Interim Estimates of Vaccine Effectiveness of BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273 COVID-19 Vaccines in Preventing SARS-CoV-2 Infection Among Health Care Personnel, First Responders, and Other Essential and [...] | 02:21 |
de-facto | "...in eight U.S. locations during December 14, 2020–March 13, 2021, CDC routinely tested for SARS-CoV-2 infections every week regardless of symptom status and at the onset of symptoms consistent with COVID-19–associated illness." | 02:23 |
de-facto | "Participants self-collected a midturbinate nasal swab weekly, regardless of COVID-19–associated illness symptom status and collected an additional nasal swab and saliva specimen at the onset of COVID-19–associated illness. Specimens shipped on cold packs were tested by RT-PCR assay at Marshfield Clinic Laboratory (Marshfield, Wisconsin) to determine SARS-CoV-2 infections (PCR-confirmed infection)" | 02:25 |
de-facto | "Estimated adjusted vaccine effectiveness of full immunization was 90% (95% confidence interval [CI] = 68%–97%); vaccine effectiveness of partial immunization was 80% (95% CI = 59%–90%)" | 02:30 |
de-facto | well thats very good, hopefully with the VoCs too | 02:32 |
Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): COVID19: r/COVID19 Change in Scope - PLEASE READ → https://is.gd/TQuxn0 | 02:32 |
de-facto | .title https://imgur.com/a/5awmD9E https://i.imgur.com/8co1IoL.jpg "SARS-CoV-2 VoC B.1.1.7 and B.1.351 neutralization evasion" source: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03398-2 "Antibody Resistance of SARS-CoV-2 Variants B.1.351 and B.1.1.7 | Nature" | 02:35 |
Brainstorm | de-facto: From imgur.com: SARS-CoV-2 VoC B.1.1.7 and B.1.351 neutralization evasion - Album on Imgur | 02:35 |
de-facto | Figure 4 on page 8 | 02:36 |
Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Leaders of 23 countries back pandemic treaty idea for future emergencies → https://is.gd/WsmSsx | 03:03 |
Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Venezuela’s Maduro seeks to sideline opposition with ‘oil-for-vaccines’ plan: Lawmakers → https://is.gd/gZY1FD | 03:54 |
Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Canada pauses AstraZeneca vaccine for under 55 → https://is.gd/FLxKWc | 04:15 |
Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: New York to open up COVID-19 vaccine to all adults on April 6 → https://is.gd/8qLvYN | 04:26 |
Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Pfizer, Moderna COVID-19 vaccines highly effective after first shot: Study → https://is.gd/pKe2lE | 04:47 |
Brainstorm | New from Bloom Lab: @jbloom_lab: Thanks to @tylernstarr, our #SARSCoV2 RBD mutant libraries are freely available in AddGene (https://www.addgene.org/pooled-library/bloom-sars-cov-2-rbd-dms/). Libraries contain nearly all single amino-acid mutations to RBD linked to 16-nt barcodes. (1/3) → https://is.gd/nrD3TJ | 06:10 |
Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Bermuda premier warns of 'staggering’ number of Covid cases to come. → https://is.gd/UAzDcp | 06:30 |
Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Leaders of 23 countries call for treaty to help world deal with future pandemics → https://is.gd/EO0WTN | 06:51 |
Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Leaders of 23 countries back pandemic treaty idea for future emergencies → https://is.gd/kAIlXf | 07:12 |
Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: COVID-19 restrictions: B.C. temporarily halting indoor dining at restaurants, indoor fitness activities for adults → https://is.gd/yZlEYX | 08:34 |
Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Leaders of 23 countries back pandemic treaty idea for future emergencies → https://is.gd/SU1ogI | 09:05 |
Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Your neighborhood may influence your COVID-19 risk: Markers of the pandemic's impact—testing rates, positivity ratio (cases among total tests), case rates by overall population and deaths—are clustered in neighborhoods, with low-income and predominantly minority communities experiencing worse outcomes than wealthier and [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/b28NHg | 09:16 |
Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Cuba begins testing 2nd COVID-19 vaccine on health care workers: Cuba began vaccinating tens of thousands of health care workers with a second COVID-19 vaccine on Monday, even though it has yet to complete clinical trials. → https://is.gd/EfdCus | 09:47 |
Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Covid-19: World leaders call for international pandemic treaty → https://is.gd/HxPI1o | 09:57 |
Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: 'Ethical, safe?': Why are vaccine passports becoming a matter of concern → https://is.gd/i8v82F | 10:07 |
-RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Feed: Covid-19, il Presidente Draghi vaccinato con AstraZeneca all’hub di Roma Termini ( http://www.governo.it/it/articolo/covid-19-il-presidente-draghi-vaccinato-con-astrazeneca-all-hub-di-roma-termini/16520 ) | 10:37 | |
Brainstorm | New from Politico: Aid and development: UK to prioritize own vaccine rollout before sharing shots with others → https://is.gd/LOTAnl | 10:38 |
mobidrop_ | the Party decides which experimental vaccines are mandatory, no travel without the right papers is allowed | 10:40 |
Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro replaces six ministers as Covid crisis balloons → https://is.gd/7lu6AS | 10:49 |
mobidrop_ | those who question the non-existing track record of mRNA technology and unknown long term health effects are reminded to "trust the science" and "if not for yourself, do it for others" | 10:55 |
Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: New Covid vaccines needed globally within a year, say scientists → https://is.gd/qyBRhs | 11:09 |
najari[m] | what's this blood clot stuff I hear about astrazeneca? | 11:19 |
Brainstorm | New from EMA: What's new: Medicine: Human medicines European public assessment report (EPAR): Comirnaty, COVID-19 mRNA vaccine (nucleoside-modified), COVID-19 virus infection, Date of authorisation: 21/12/2020, Revision: 4, Status: Authorised → https://is.gd/golaYG | 11:30 |
Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: City of London expects most workers to return after pandemic → https://is.gd/14l56R | 11:51 |
Brainstorm | New from EMA: What's new: News: EMA working on COVID-19 over holiday period → https://is.gd/34O3M7 | 12:02 |
Brainstorm | New from EMA: What's new: Document: COVID-19 vaccine safety update for Comirnaty: 29 March 2021 → https://is.gd/UtlW2z | 12:12 |
Brainstorm | New from EMA: What's new: Document: COVID-19 vaccine safety update for Vaxzevria (previously COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca): 29 March 2021 → https://is.gd/xaqzQH | 12:23 |
Brainstorm | New from EMA: News and press releases: EU recommendations for 2021-2022 seasonal flu vaccine composition, , 30/03/2021: EMA has issued the recommendations for the influenza virus strains that vaccine manufacturers should include in vaccines for the prevention of seasonal... → https://is.gd/Lvrwu6 | 12:34 |
Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: (news): Covid: Half of UK has antibodies from vaccination or infection → https://is.gd/rOE6l8 | 12:44 |
CoronaBot | /r/covid19: NACI rapid response: Recommended use of AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine in younger adults (83 votes) | https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/immunization/national-advisory-committee-on-immunization-naci/rapid-response-recommended-use-astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine-younger-adults.html | https://redd.it/mg0yd5 | 13:04 |
Brainstorm | New from Politico: Aid and development: Austria threatens to halt EU’s 100M vaccine buy until it gets greater share of jabs → https://is.gd/yRTo27 | 13:16 |
Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: An israeli covid mutation has been discovered : → https://is.gd/VfVZ4r | 13:37 |
Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Germany's vaccine regulator reports 31 cases of blood disorder after AstraZeneca shot → https://is.gd/JVcF1u | 13:47 |
Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | March 30, 2021: Please refer to our Wiki for more information on COVID-19 and our sub. You can find answers to frequently asked questions in our FAQ , where there is valuable information such as our: → https://is.gd/fUwKRY | 14:40 |
Brainstorm | New from NPR: Many World Leaders Call For Treaty On Future Pandemics: Given a lack of international coordination that has beset the current coronavirus pandemic, whether such a treaty could be reached or adhered to is an open question. → https://is.gd/6H8Mrf | 15:01 |
Brainstorm | New from NIH Director's blog: Infections with ‘U.K Variant’ B.1.1.7 Have Greater Risk of Mortality: Since the genome sequence of SARS-CoV-2, the virus responsible for COVID-19, was first reported in January 2020, thousands of variants have been reported. In the vast majority of cases, these variants, which arise from random genomic changes as [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/VssbYy | 15:12 |
Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Pharma: STAT+: Pharmalittle: Pfizer and BioNTech to boost Covid-19 vaccine production; lawmakers ask FTC to probe insulin pricing → https://is.gd/tUfG8q | 15:33 |
Brainstorm | New from BMJ: Tomorrow’s doctors, tomorrow’s leaders: More than a year since we first entered lockdown, much has changed in terms of our working lives, as well as our personal or social lives... → https://is.gd/hMQkZ6 | 16:05 |
Brainstorm | New from Shane Crotty: @profshanecrotty: This excellent study is good to see published. The vaccine results are very consistent with earlier studies from the UK & Israel, and again consistent with these vaccines being good at stopping transmission. → https://is.gd/UIqZ7r | 16:37 |
Brainstorm | New from mRNA sequences: Update README.md: Added a section regarding the objectives/goals of this work, explaining the differences between an mRNA sequence and a full vaccine. → https://is.gd/uvcEUP | 16:48 |
Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): The Impact of the COVID-19 Pandemic on Diabetes Management → https://is.gd/OvPvzO | 17:09 |
Brainstorm | New from LitCovid: (news): The Target Sign and Its Variant in COVID-19 Pneumonia. → https://is.gd/QV0Sby | 17:20 |
de-facto | .title https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/sadly-you-cant-print-your-own-vaccine/ | 17:21 |
Brainstorm | de-facto: From berthub.eu: Sadly, You Can't Print Your Own (safe) mRNA Vaccine - Articles | 17:21 |
de-facto | .title https://www.who.int/health-topics/coronavirus/origins-of-the-virus | 17:26 |
Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.who.int: Virus origin / Origins of the SARS-CoV-2 virus | 17:26 |
Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Consequences of COVID 19 Pandemic on Childhood Asthma → https://is.gd/nEW3Of | 17:32 |
Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: EFFICACY and SAFETY OF BEVACIZUMAB (ZIRABEV®) IN PATIENTS WITH SEVERE HYPOXEMIC COVID-19: Conditions : Corona Virus Infection; SARS (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome); Virus Diseases; Coronaviridae Infections; Nidovirales Infections; RNA Virus Infections; Respiratory Tract Infections; [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/Xie2wp | 17:42 |
CoronaBot | /r/covid19: BioNTech Raises Covid Vaccine Target to 2.5 Billion Doses (81 votes) | https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-30/biontech-raises-2021-covid-vaccine-target-to-2-5-billion-doses?srnd=premium | https://redd.it/mgfqor | 17:48 |
Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Clinical Efficiency of Surgical Masks and Filtering Face-piece 2 Masks → https://is.gd/SEWS5r | 17:52 |
Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Study of HEarT DiseAse and ImmuNiTy After COVID-19 in Ireland → https://is.gd/9xhOqT | 18:03 |
Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Lung Ultrasound Signs and Patterns in COVID-19 Pregnant Women → https://is.gd/lxdh5A | 18:13 |
Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Anti COVID-19 Antibodies in Follicular Fluid and Spermatic Fluid → https://is.gd/FRCm70 | 18:24 |
Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Respiratory Tele Monitoring COVID 19 (TMR COVID-19) → https://is.gd/598K0z | 18:35 |
Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Can my kids hug their grandparents now that they're vaccinated?: Q: My parents have had both doses of the COVID vaccine. Can my kids visit them and safely hug them? → https://is.gd/RVSvMi | 18:46 |
LjL | As usual... lockdown: https://wtf.roflcopter.fr/pics/s6VNG55v/HeNL5HIR | 18:52 |
bin_bash | %deaths india | 18:53 |
bin_bash | %cases india | 18:53 |
Brainstorm | bin_bash: In India, there have been 11.9 million confirmed cases (0.9% of the population) and 161155 deaths (1.4% of cases) as of 2 days ago. 239.8 million tests were performed (5.0% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 0.2% (assuming prevalence as in tests) and less than 1.4% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=India for time series data. | 18:54 |
Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Coronavirus cases are rising all over the world → https://is.gd/Wy7AzP | 18:57 |
Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Brazil biggest city, Sao Paulo, to use school vans to transport bodies from Covid-19 victims, as the funeral system gets overwhelmed. → https://is.gd/xVagTg | 19:08 |
Brainstorm | New from Politico: Coronavirus: Poland’s government promises speedier vaccines in bid to head off political backlash → https://is.gd/f1LyDt | 19:29 |
de-facto | LjL, as long as those people are outdoors they cant be indoors, i think the real problem is when people are visiting friends indoors, but that cant be easily separated from allowing walks in the park | 19:33 |
rpifan | well today it was really warm in berlin | 19:39 |
rpifan | the park was packed full of ppl | 19:39 |
Brainstorm | New from Politico: Coronavirus: German regions suspend Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine for those under 60 → https://is.gd/FQOyeH | 19:39 |
rpifan | lol | 19:41 |
rpifan | again? | 19:41 |
CoronaBot | /r/covid19: German cities suspend AstraZeneca vaccine use for under-60s (83 votes) | https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/german-state-suspends-astrazeneca-vaccine-60s-76766477 | https://redd.it/mgh4ee | 19:42 |
Brainstorm | New from Scientific American: Health: WHO Report into COVID Pandemic Origins Zeroes in on Animal Markets, Not Labs → https://is.gd/6Om9vG | 19:50 |
rpifan | even if it were a lab would they say it was? | 19:51 |
LjL | de-facto, okay... i guess that makes sense, but at the same time, right now there *is* a lockdown where in theory you're not allowed to be in the park, and also that you must wear a mask outdoors and indoors (and most of the kids in the park don't have masks). maybe it's not a tragedy but it shows the lockdown rules are completely ignored | 20:02 |
rpifan | LjL, where is trhat | 20:02 |
LjL | italy | 20:02 |
rpifan | oh | 20:03 |
Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Pfizer, Moderna COVID-19 vaccines highly effective after first shot in real-world use – U.S. study → https://is.gd/z5sAy4 | 20:11 |
LjL | rpifan, Lombardy, to be precise... and you'd expect people here to have been "burned" enough | 20:12 |
de-facto | LjL, same here people dont care anymore, yet we dont have curfew... yet | 20:16 |
rpifan | de-facto, what bundesland r u in | 20:16 |
de-facto | btw again you live at a beautiful place there :) | 20:17 |
de-facto | rpifan, bw | 20:17 |
rpifan | ah i know someone else from baden | 20:17 |
de-facto | you were be? | 20:17 |
rpifan | be? | 20:20 |
Brainstorm | New from Politico: Coronavirus: Ireland ready for slow easing of lockdown measures, says PM Martin → https://is.gd/5OAE6I | 20:22 |
de-facto | berlin | 20:41 |
Brainstorm | New from WebMD: Brain Scraper: Why Do Some COVID Tests Hurt So Much?: The nasopharyngeal swab -- aka the Brain Tickler -- is considered the gold standard for COVID tests. The problem is no two noses are exactly a like and different people will have different reactions. → https://is.gd/P8ZMQd | 20:43 |
rpifan | ive never been bothered | 20:45 |
rpifan | by the swab covid | 20:45 |
LjL | i feel it would hurt me | 21:24 |
LjL | my nose is quite perennially clogged | 21:24 |
LjL | i had a nose endoscopy (not sure if it has a more specific name) once, and the doctor could only check one nostril because the other was just too slammed shut to get into | 21:25 |
LjL | tbh i think covid tests could also be done with just a saliva swab and be almost equally accurate | 21:25 |
de-facto | i just gargled today, its super easy | 21:30 |
de-facto | for screening purpose, i do it every week now | 21:30 |
de-facto | they give a little bottle, a straw and a tiny sample tube (7x50mm). in the morning one would sip the salty water from the bottle, gargle with it 30s, use the straw to put it back in the bottle, then cough and pull up the nose several times and try to put the result with the straw in the bottle, close it, shake it, and fill it with the pointed "pipette" like tip into the sampling tube | 21:32 |
de-facto | super easy and takes like 2 minutes, collecting from all over the mucus (but surface, hence averaging out concentrations) | 21:33 |
de-facto | no cotton swabs or such needed for that method, but also does not collect from inside the nasal surface | 21:34 |
de-facto | what would be the to be assumed disadvantages? | 21:34 |
de-facto | i wonder how sensitivity would compare to classic cotton swab especially in the early infection | 21:37 |
LjL | de-facto, there was a paper that said it's actually better to use saliva, but it's an old paper. i vaguely remember something that came out later that said nose is more accurate. so maybe it's not so clear | 21:38 |
LjL | %links salive | 21:38 |
Brainstorm | LjL, https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.16.20067835v1 (Saliva is more sensitive for SARS-CoV-2 detection in COVID-19 patients than nasopharyngeal swabs), an observation that may free us from those cringey swabs, if it gets past preprint stage | 21:38 |
LjL | %links saliva | 21:38 |
Brainstorm | LjL, https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.16.20067835v1 (Saliva is more sensitive for SARS-CoV-2 detection in COVID-19 patients than nasopharyngeal swabs), an observation that may free us from those cringey swabs, if it gets past preprint stage | 21:38 |
LjL | yeah that | 21:38 |
LjL | haha my comment on that | 21:39 |
de-facto | oh wow nice | 21:39 |
LjL | it did get past preprint stage after all | 21:40 |
LjL | https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2016359 | 21:41 |
LjL | although it's as a letter to the editor apparently (so not peer-reviewed?) | 21:41 |
de-facto | "When we compared SARS-CoV-2 detection from patient-matched nasopharyngeal and saliva samples, we found that saliva yielded greater detection sensitivity and consistency throughout the course of infection. Furthermore, we report less variability in self-sample collection of saliva." | 21:42 |
LjL | "Collection of saliva samples by patients themselves negates the need for direct interaction between health care workers and patients. This interaction is a source of major testing bottlenecks and presents a risk of nosocomial infection." | 21:42 |
LjL | de-facto, what did i say, that among the things Merkel announced last time, it was all pretty "meh", except the free weekly rapid test would be a welcome thing | 21:43 |
de-facto | i think it makes sense that saliva samples are more sensitive in the later progressions when it starts to travel down both the airways and the gastrointestinal tract, but what about the very early stages (where it would be most important to detect it)? | 21:45 |
Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Pfizer to move up COVID vaccine deliveries to Canada: PM: Pfizer has agreed to move up deliveries of its COVID-19 vaccine to Canada, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said Tuesday, one day after restricting AstraZeneca jabs over safety concerns. → https://is.gd/jgcA5d | 21:46 |
de-facto | LjL, they probably will make testing mandatory in working places soon (hopefully) because participation is pretty "meh". also in schools i heard that for a given class of 13 children 11 would come with a written document from their parents that they dont allow participation in testing of their kids because they fear quarantine | 21:47 |
de-facto | so sometimes a little pressure may help people to do the right thing | 21:48 |
LjL | yeah i remember you mentioned that | 21:50 |
LjL | silly people | 21:50 |
Brainstorm | New from ScienceNews: Moderna and Pfizer COVID-19 vaccines may block infection as well as disease: The mRNA vaccines are about 90 percent effective at blocking coronavirus infection, which could lead to reduced transmission, real-world data suggest. → https://is.gd/YF8xYl | 21:57 |
Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: WHO chief says data withheld from team probing COVID-19 origins in China → https://is.gd/p9lDQ5 | 22:08 |
Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Spain extends AstraZeneca vaccine jabs to over 65s: Spain's health ministry announced Tuesday that it was extending the roll-out of the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine to the over-65s, after recent scientific reassurances about its safety. → https://is.gd/Jwolz8 | 22:39 |
Brainstorm | New from The Atlantic: The Fourth Surge Is Upon Us. This Time, It’s Different.: Across the United States, cases have started rising again. In a few cities, even hospitalizations are ticking up. The twists and turns of a pandemic can be hard to predict, but this most recent increase was almost inevitable: A more transmissible and more deadly variant [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/LSpDGg | 23:01 |
CoronaBot | /r/coronavirus: Half of people in England now have antibodies against Covid, study says (10013 votes) | https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/covid-antibodies-coronavirus-ons-study-b1824292.html | https://redd.it/mgcmhn | 23:08 |
LjL | what study, sounds like bollocks to me | 23:18 |
LjL | oh, vaccine-elicited antibodies | 23:19 |
LjL | i take it back then, not bollocks | 23:19 |
LjL | "But the ONS warned it was seeing evidence of a reduction in antibodies in older people in the most recent data." | 23:19 |
Brainstorm | New from Politico: Coronavirus: Merkel and Spahn: No more Oxford/AstraZeneca jabs for under 60s → https://is.gd/v8yGPS | 23:32 |
LjL | de-facto, well so now Germany is restricting AZ to younger people too | 23:48 |
LjL | so much for "naaaah it's fine --EMA" | 23:48 |
LjL | i bet now that Germany did this, everyone will follow suit sooner or later (EMA and WHO perhaps only at last) | 23:50 |
LjL | three people were arrested and the health minister of Sicily is under investigation, because their COVID data were falsified in order to avoid being locked down | 23:59 |
LjL | i'm not sure i'm even surprised | 23:59 |
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