libera/##covid-19/ Wednesday, 2021-03-31

LjL%wik nimesulide00:20
BrainstormLjL, from English Wikipedia: Nimesulide is a nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drug (NSAID) with pain medication and fever reducing properties. Its approved indications are the treatment of acute pain, the symptomatic treatment of osteoarthritis, and primary dysmenorrhoea in adolescents and adults above 12 years old. [... want %more?] → https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimesulide00:20
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Union group says documents show Alberta government prioritized Cargill plant operation over worker safety during outbreak of COVID-19 → https://is.gd/vmNrV900:25
BrainstormNew from The Lancet (Online): [Comment] Pandemic moves and countermoves: vaccines and viral variants: In the past few months, the results of several phase 3 studies showing high vaccine efficacy against SARS-CoV-2 and the subsequent rapid regulatory approval and roll-out of several vaccines have ignited much optimism. However, this optimism has been [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/IEQ8Yv00:35
LjLSeparately on Tuesday, WHO’s Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus also demanded further research to reach “more robust conclusions”.00:58
LjL“I do not believe that this assessment was extensive enough,” he said during a news briefing on Tuesday.00:58
LjL“Although the team has concluded that a laboratory leak is the least likely hypothesis, this requires further investigation, potentially with additional missions involving specialist experts, which I am ready to deploy,” Tedros added.00:58
LjLChina’s foreign ministry hit back at the perceived criticism from the WHO chief, saying that Beijing had fully demonstrated “its openness, transparency and responsible attitude”.00:58
LjLhttps://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/3/30/fourteen-countries-raise-concern-over-who-report-covid-origin00:58
LjLif Tedros himself says the report is sketchy, well, what can you do, clean up your own house00:58
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Widespread facemask use is vital to suppress the pandemic as lockdown lifts, say scientists: A new mathematical model suggests that the easing of lockdown must be accompanied by wider and more effective use of control measures such as facemasks even with vaccination, in order to suppress COVID-19 more quickly and reduce the [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/UyCGO701:06
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: Covid-19: Shielding coming to an end for millions: People seen as clinically extremely vulnerable are still being told to take precautions over Covid. → https://is.gd/4rFGRx01:48
rpifani dont get it01:50
rpifanwhats that mean01:50
LjLrpifan, it's saying that the UK has vaccinated enough people now that they will be able to drop their recommendation that elderly and vulnerable (also people in nursing homes, etc, where these recommendations become orders) do not get into contact with younger relatives etc02:18
LjLwhen both parties involved are vaccinated, the risk goes down a lot, and the US and the UK are heading towards a direction of "allowing contact" between vaccinated people02:19
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: UK and US criticise WHO's Covid report and accuse China of withholding data → https://is.gd/a5b7gw02:19
LjLobviously the EU can't do that simply because of the uselessly small amount of vaccinations done02:19
rpifanLjL, interesting02:19
rpifani thoguht we were all doing the 3rd wave02:19
LjLand also they will have to correct the adage that has been somehow instilled into people that vaccines only protect from symptoms but not from contagiousness. which is just an inaccurate portrayal of what vaccines do.02:20
LjLrpifan, i don't know which wave we're doing, but in the UK cases are going down sharply... in the US they aren't quite, but still, vaccinations are mostly with Pfizer and Moderna, so people who are vaccinated are probably safe in a... quite robust way02:21
LjLthose who aren't, well, they'll have to wait - but shorter than here, rest assured of that ;(02:21
rpifanthats sad02:22
rpifanwell im waiting for wave 402:22
LjLNew York is planning to open up vaccinations for everyone by April02:22
LjLrpifan, have a look here: https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=346..latest&pickerSort=desc&pickerMetric=population&Metric=Vaccinations&Interval=Cumulative&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=GBR~ISR~SRB~USA~European+Union02:23
LjLi have included Serbia because they are a non-EU country that's vaccinating considerably more than the EU, so much that they've opened up to neighboring countries (Bosnia, Montenegro, Macedonia etc) for vaccinations02:23
LjLobviously, they've authorized more vaccines than the EU has, so they're also using Sputnik and CanSino02:23
rpifani wonder how this will actually work with the variants02:24
LjLbut it surely tells me that the EU's strategy has failed02:24
LjLwho knows02:24
LjLthere is no solid data on how even Pfizer and Moderna will hold up with the SA variant02:24
rpifani except we'll get a wave from that02:27
rpifanas soon as the borders open up02:27
LjLdon't think we'll have to wait for the borders to open up... cases of SA variant are already in the EU02:27
LjLjust not so many02:27
LjLbut when most people will be vaccinated, they'll become many by definition, if they evade vaccines02:27
rpifanwe will see02:35
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Against the odds, Cuba could become a coronavirus vaccine powerhouse → https://is.gd/cle2aL02:50
LjL<CoronaBot> /r/coronavirus: No Ohioan who has been vaccinated and tested positive for COVID-19 has died, according to the ODH (1011 votes)03:34
LjL<CoronaBot> https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/continuing-coverage/coronavirus/no-ohioan-who-has-been-vaccinated-and-tested-positive-for-covid-19-has-died-according-to-the-odh | https://redd.it/mgkz3b03:34
BrainstormNew from BBC Health: (news): Coronavirus: More work needed to rule out China lab leak theory says WHO → https://is.gd/14R3Ic04:35
BrainstormNew from Bloom Lab: @jbloom_lab: R to @jbloom_lab: In addition to the scientists tagged above, this work derives from generous sharing/help from many other collaborators including @seth_zost @VUMC_Vaccines @NussenzweigL @c_gaebler @PaulBieniasz @theodora_nyc @DrJLi @Dr_MChoudhary @AdamDingens (10/n) → https://is.gd/wfSUrB05:17
BrainstormNew from Bloom Lab: @jbloom_lab: R to @jbloom_lab: We've also included a detailed technical explanation of data, link to CSV file with raw data for all 100,000+ measurements (https://raw.githubusercontent.com/jbloomlab/SARS2_RBD_Ab_escape_maps/main/processed_data/escape_data.csv), and GitHub repo with code to make visualizations [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/3cmnF305:38
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: The head of the World Health Organization (WHO) has said further investigation is needed to conclusively rule that Covid-19 emerged from a laboratory in China. → https://is.gd/1bl86j05:59
BrainstormNew from CDC (old): Variant Proportions in the U.S.: CDC uses data provided through its national SARS-CoV-2 genomic surveillance program to estimate the proportion of variants circulating in the United States. These data inform national and state public health actions. → https://is.gd/yJtqEF06:20
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: She’s vaccinated against Covid-19. He isn’t. Now what? → https://is.gd/q9jk1006:41
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Pandemic pushes gender equality back a generation: WEF → https://is.gd/xs9SJ106:52
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: China reports Covid-19 outbreak on border with Myanmar → https://is.gd/cksDQX08:25
CoronaBot/r/coronavirus: Dr Fauci says children should not play together without masks until they are vaccinated (10007 votes) | https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/dr-fauci-children-covid-vaccine-masks-b1824600.html | https://redd.it/mgpn9308:42
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | March 31, 2021: Please refer to our Wiki for more information on COVID-19 and our sub. You can find answers to frequently asked questions in our FAQ , where there is valuable information such as our: → https://is.gd/wZNo3d09:07
clashncruzAnyone had the chance to read this article? Covid-19 Mortality: A Matter of Vulnerability Among Nations Facing Limited Margins of Adaptation https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpubh.2020.604339/full09:22
BrainstormNew from Politico: Macron and Merkel discuss vaccine cooperation with Russia: The European Medicines Agency is conducting a rolling review of Russian-made Sputnik V vaccine. → https://is.gd/XJDW8S09:49
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express (Health): Destination of the week: New York rolls out COVID-19 digital vaccination passport for cultural, sport events → https://is.gd/rYXZ8R10:00
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Dementia and COVID: What families and physicians should know: Early in the pandemic, neurologists expressed concern that COVID-19 patients with dementia may be at higher risk for complications and mortality. → https://is.gd/pGJJWY10:11
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Vietnam: Court convicts flight attendant for ‘spreading’ Covid → https://is.gd/HmCB5j10:22
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express (Health): Life-style: Pandemic pushes gender equality back a generation: World Economic Forum → https://is.gd/C6f5jC10:33
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Health: With light at the end of the tunnel, loved ones feel the anguish of Covid-19 deaths particularly hard → https://is.gd/vKwdnI10:43
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Opinion: Vaccination certificates won’t end lockdown. Prosocial approaches will: Vaccination certificates aren't a solution to improving vaccine coverage. An effective response that motivates people at all levels of society toward a common, prosocial goal is. → https://is.gd/KjJzcW10:54
BrainstormNew from BMJ: David Oliver: When visitors return to the wards: During the peaks of the covid-19 pandemic serious restrictions were imposed on ward visits from patients’ carers, family, and friends, for infection control purposes. Limited exceptions were made for... → https://is.gd/37qXpV11:35
BrainstormUpdates for United States: +260667 cases (now 30.7 million), +3364 deaths (now 557197) since 3 days ago — India: +186945 cases (now 12.1 million), +1206 deaths (now 162361) since 3 days ago — Maharashtra, India: +107783 cases (now 2.7 million), +515 deaths (now 54422) since 3 days ago — Ukraine: +48459 cases (now 1.7 million), +966 deaths (now 33231) since 3 days ago12:00
BrainstormNew from BMJ: Covid-19: Cancer care at home scheme is extended by NHS England: A scheme that has enabled patients in England with cancer to swap their treatments for alternatives that can be taken at home during the covid-19 pandemic has been extended until this summer and... → https://is.gd/rFSpf212:17
BrainstormNew from WHO Euro: Regional Director meets TB patients and policy-makers in Kyrgyzstan as COVID-19 continues to threaten health care across the Region: Meeting Dilzada and Aiperi at Kyrgyzstan’s National Centre for Phthisiology offered Dr Hans Henri P. Kluge, WHO Regional Director for Europe, a rare opportunity during the pandemic to speak with [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/EA8p9g12:38
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Pfizer and BioNTech say vaccine prevents Covid-19 in adolescents: Pfizer and BioNTech said their Covid-19 vaccine prevented symptomatic disease and was well-tolerated in a Phase 3 study of adolescents ages 12 to 15. → https://is.gd/8E6IGg12:58
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Pfizer Says COVID Vaccine Is 100% Effective in Kids Ages 12 to 15 → https://is.gd/gG0qM913:09
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Pfizer says its COVID-19 vaccine protects younger teens → https://is.gd/sNtMKT13:20
BrainstormNew from Politico: BioNTech/Pfizer vaccine 100 percent effective in teens: Pfizer said it will seek permission in the coming weeks from the Food and Drug Administration and the European Medicines Agency to market the vaccine for teens. → https://is.gd/uY1KDL13:30
BrainstormNew from NPR: Pfizer Says COVID-19 Vaccine Shows '100% Efficacy' In Adolescents: Pfizer says it will submit the clinical trial results "as soon as possible" to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, and is hoping to start vaccinating children before the next school year. → https://is.gd/U6nA4e14:13
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: We’re Dr Kiren Collison, Deputy Medical Director of Primary Care for NHS England and Dr Shamez Ladhani, a scientist at Public Health England and specialist in vaccination. We are advising the UK Government and NHS on the UK Vaccination programme. Ask us anything! → https://is.gd/eSLxqU14:24
de-facto.title https://investors.biontech.de/news-releases/news-release-details/pfizer-biontech-announce-positive-topline-results-pivotal-covid  "Pfizer-BioNTech Announce Positive Topline Results of Pivotal COVID-19 Vaccine Study in Adolescents"14:30
Brainstormde-facto: From investors.biontech.de: Pfizer-BioNTech Announce Positive Topline Results of Pivotal COVID-19 Vaccine Study in Adolescents | BioNTech14:30
de-facto"In participants aged 12-15 years old, BNT162b2 demonstrated 100% efficacy and robust antibody responses, exceeding those reported in trial of vaccinated 16-25 year old participants in an earlier analysis, and was well tolerated"14:31
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express (Health): Health: Can you consume alcohol after getting a COVID vaccine? → https://is.gd/gpnS7A14:57
BrainstormNew from EMA: News and press releases: (news): AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine: review of very rare cases of unusual blood clots continues, PRAC, 31/03/2021 → https://is.gd/83gMDK15:08
BrainstormNew from EMA: What's new: Medicine: Human medicines European public assessment report (EPAR): Vaxzevria (previously COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca), COVID-19 Vaccine (ChAdOx1-S [recombinant]), COVID-19 virus infection, Date of authorisation: 29/01/2021, Revision: 2, Status: Authorised → https://is.gd/rIyUV115:18
BrainstormNew from The Indian Express: World: Russia registers world’s first Covid-19 vaccine for animals → https://is.gd/nkVv2a15:29
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Undercover operation in UK's largest COVID-19 testing facility brings to light massive incorrect test results due to contamination. → https://is.gd/OqR1gT15:51
BrainstormNew from BMJ: Covid-19: Doctor charged with murder as police investigate multiple patient deaths in Canadian hospital: A specialist in internal medicine has been charged with first degree murder following a cluster of deaths in a Canadian hospital that were initially attributed to covid-19.Brian Nadler, 35, was... → https://is.gd/LC7YPX16:01
CoronaBot/r/covid19: Pfizer-BioNTech Announce Positive Topline Results of Pivotal COVID-19 Vaccine Study in Adolescents (88 votes) | https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-biontech-announce-positive-topline-results-pivotal | https://redd.it/mh3l6w16:09
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Comprehensive report on pandemic response solutions developed by 180 leading experts: When the World Health Organization declared the COVID-19 outbreak a pandemic, the health crisis catalyzed a global effort to accelerate innovation and stop the novel virus's spread. To help streamline that effort, the MIT Center for Collective [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/t4WzSX16:12
BrainstormNew from Ars Technica: Science: Pfizer: COVID vaccine shows “100% efficacy” in adolescents 12-15 → https://is.gd/HA5H2M16:33
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: WHO experts say Chinese jabs show 'safety', but data lacking: WHO vaccine experts said Wednesday that an interim analysis of clinical trial data from two Chinese COVID-19 vaccines showed they demonstrated "safety and good efficacy", but that more data was needed. → https://is.gd/wzaCU716:44
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: China slams COVID-19 probe critics as Europe reels from surges: China on Wednesday slammed "unethical" critics as it faced mounting pressure over origins of the COVID-19 pandemic, after the World Health Organization chief revived the theory that the coronavirus may have leaked from a Chinese lab. → https://is.gd/tW7AZ816:54
BrainstormNew from LitCovid: (news): (Filipino) people and religion, science and government: an interactive approach against COVID-19 pandemic. → https://is.gd/kOTQuq17:05
canderasGood Morning ! Does anyone have any experience with antiandrogen treatment ?17:10
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Diseases, Conditions, Syndromes: Your COVID-19 vaccine card: What to do if you lost it, why you should laminate it → https://is.gd/i8V44J18:09
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Community exposures tied to SARS-CoV-2 seropositivity in HCWs: (HealthDay)—Community exposures, but not workplace factors, are associated with seropositivity to severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) among health care personnel (HCP), according to a study published online March 10 in JAMA Network Open. → https://is.gd/JvVDwF18:41
LjL<Brainstorm> New from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: Over 100 fully vaccinated people contract COVID-19 in Washington state, officials say → https://is.gd/pZmg3C18:51
LjLcomment from reddit there: "The recent CDC shows that the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines prevent 90% of recipients from infections, so it's not surprising that fully vaccinated people are getting COVID in light of the new variants. What is notable is that eight of these "breakthrough" patients have been hospitalized with COVID, and that two have died (but they were over 80 years old and had other illnesses)."18:51
LjLde-facto, ↑18:51
LjLso much for full protection from hospitalization and death18:52
BrainstormNew from r/Coronavirus: Coronavirus: An update on recent subreddit events → https://is.gd/jxTl8V19:10
LjLreddit drama!19:18
LjLjust in time since i was missing channel drama19:18
BrainstormNew from NPR: India Reports Its Highest Daily Number Of COVID-19 Deaths So Far This Year: Wednesday's death toll was 354. Scientists are investigating what's making cases of infection rise precipitously after a decline last fall. "This race is really against time," says one immunologist. → https://is.gd/P25PrU19:31
de-factoLjL, yeah of course, i always was saying that we need vaccine updates for all of them (including mRNA ones)19:34
LjLde-facto, i'm not sure it's a matter of variants (hence updates) here, i think it's just that a small number of people get severe and die anyway, and saying "100% protection from death blah blah" is just bullshit that vaccine makers shouldn't say19:35
LjLand you know which vaccine maker i'm thinking of19:35
LjLmeanwhile, it seems our government is about to make vaccines mandatory for all healthcare operators, including pharmacists19:36
LjLwith AZ, of course, even though other countries (including yours) are restricting it to people >6019:36
de-factoi would assume the antibody neutralization capability would protect from asymptomatic or light infection and the cellular immunity from severe progressions19:37
de-factoand even for SARS-CoV-2-VoCs that may evade antibody binding the T-cell immunity is quite well preserved, hence probably also the protection from severe progressions19:38
de-facto.title https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.02.27.433180v119:38
Brainstormde-facto: From www.biorxiv.org: Negligible impact of SARS-CoV-2 variants on CD4+ and CD8+ T cell reactivity in COVID-19 exposed donors and vaccinees | bioRxiv19:38
de-facto"Similarly, we demonstrate that the sequences of the vast majority of SARS-CoV-2 T cell epitopes are not affected by the mutations found in the variants analyzed. Overall, the results demonstrate that CD4+ and CD8+ T cell responses in convalescent COVID-19 subjects or COVID-19 mRNA vaccinees are not substantially affected by mutations found in the SARS-CoV-2 variants."19:39
CoronaBot/r/coronavirus: Pfizer says its Covid vaccine is 100 percent effective in young teens (10080 votes) | https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/pfizer-says-its-covid-vaccine-100-percent-effective-young-teens-n1262550 | https://redd.it/mh3i1g19:46
BrainstormNew from NPR: CDC: COVID-19 Was Third Leading Cause Of Death In 2020, People Of Color Hit Hardest: A pair of reports published by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Wednesday sheds new light on the approximately 375,000 deaths attributed to COVID-19 in the U.S. last year. → https://is.gd/diNhMw19:53
BrainstormNew from ScienceMag: [Research Articles] Clearance of pegylated interferon by Kupffer cells limits NK cell activation and therapy response of patients with HBV infection: Pegylated interferon-α (PEG–IFN-α), where IFN-α is attached to polyethylene glycol (PEG), is an approved treatment for chronic hepatitis B virus (HBV) infection, a disease that [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/kbwnA420:04
{}[m]3Is there a legitimate contrarian concern regarding the mRNA vaccines as opposed to the Johnson & Johnson vaccine?20:11
bin_bashwhat do you mean by that20:11
bin_bash{}[m]3: what are you asking here?20:13
{}[m]3Is there a scientifically relevant concern regarding the use of mRNA vaccines as opposed to the standard vaccines. Should one be concerned about the long term effects of the mRNA delivery method?  I’m trying to separate the propaganda and conspiracy theory noise from the actual science here.  Serious question.20:15
bin_bashthere are no concerns about long-term effects at this time.20:19
bin_bash{}[m]3: this is a very brief and visual explanation of how mRNA vaccines work: https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/137010636578450637020:19
BrainstormNew from WebMD: Multiple Reasons Behind Recent Coronavirus Surges: How do states explain and expect to respond to a recent increase in the number of reported COVID-19 cases? → https://is.gd/oeyp0n20:25
LjL{}[m]3: if anything I'm more concerned about adenovirus based vaccines if they mean you gain immunity to that adenovirus which may "burn" it for later use, and in the case of animal adenoviruses, although they're expected to be mild, I guess we don't really have much experience with humans catching them (before the vaccine trials that is)20:27
Liks913hi21:07
rpifanwe dont know amything really21:07
CoronaBot/r/covid19: AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine: review of very rare cases unusual blood clots continues (80 votes) | https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine-review-very-rare-cases-unusual-blood-clots-continues | https://redd.it/mh7wtw21:17
LjLhi21:24
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: Ukraine sees record virus deaths, new curbs in Kiev: Ukraine on Wednesday reported a record number of new coronavirus deaths and daily hospitalisations and announced new anti-virus curbs in the capital Kiev from next week. → https://is.gd/eCMFzN21:39
BrainstormNew from Retraction Watch: Beam us up! Elsevier pulls 26 Covid-19 papers by researcher with a penchant for Star Trek: An Elsevier journal has retracted more than two dozen Covid-19 papers by a researcher in Malta with a fondness for Star Trek after determining that the articles did not meet its standards for publication.   The move comes several [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/TkvVa421:50
LjL26 O.o21:52
LjLand this is supposedly peer-reviewed papers, not preprints...21:55
LjLnot sure peer review counts for anything anymore except making you able to cite it on wikipedia21:55
-RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Feed: Comunicato stampa del Consiglio dei Ministri n. 10 ( http://www.governo.it/it/articolo/comunicato-stampa-del-consiglio-dei-ministri-n-10/16525 )22:08
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Macron orders COVID-19 lockdown across all of France, closes schools → https://is.gd/bpUaIv22:11
BrainstormNew from Medical Xpress: COVID-19 antibody tests, even rapid finger pricks, are effective, new study finds: New findings from a Michigan Medicine study reveal that antibody testing is predictive of prior COVID-19 infection, and rapid screening methods—even from finger pricks—are effective testing tools. → https://is.gd/ae3KkZ22:42
BrainstormNew from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Brazil closes out deadliest month of pandemic by far - France 24 → https://is.gd/z4CZil22:52
BrainstormNew from StatNews: Pharma: STAT+: The U.S. government doesn’t have patent rights to Gilead’s remdesivir, despite investing millions in research → https://is.gd/wGKmmb23:03
LjLde-facto: it's utter absurdity here. we can't move from one municipality to another for most reason, but if you want to travel abroad (like the Canaries and the Balearic are open to foreign tourism) not only you're allowed to take the plane there, but getting to the airport is a valid exception to the movement limitations, too23:25
LjLAnd some of the people going travelling like this even have the guts to complain about the mandatory quarantine (5 day quarantine!) when they come back23:26
de-factosame here, holidays at nordic sea or in Germany is not allowed but flying to Mallorca and doing party with the SARS-CoV-2-VoC P.1 is allowed and nothing but a lousy quicktest is needed to avoid quarantine on returning23:27
de-factoabsolutely makes not sense at all23:27
de-factoif they want to travel, they also should be forced to pay for at *least* 14 days of mandatory quarantine on return23:28
de-factoin a hotel so it can be controlled23:28
de-factono tests should be allowed to shorten that, because then the compromises start again23:29
LjLAnd meanwhile medical workers here are now all mandated to be vaccinated, I guess many times with AZ... If they think that maybe vaccines aren't fully safe yet, that's their problem, too bad, they either take the vaccine or they're fired. But if someone wants to take a nice holiday abroad, sure, why not?23:30
de-factoi guess we will see quite a lot of mutant imports during eastern23:30
LjLI'm not a medical worker but if I were one I'd be very pissed off at the double standards, and having to do something compulsory when other people can easily put everyone at risk legally23:31
de-factoin Germany no AZ below 60 years anymore unless candidates ask for it23:31
LjLI know! That's another reason why people here may *legitimately* be concerned about AZ23:31
LjLThey see other countries, including big ones like France and Germany, limiting23:32
LjLAnd then they here not only it's not limited here, but it's mandatory23:32
LjLWtf23:32
LjLThey hear*23:32
de-factohttps://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/Kommissionen/STIKO/Empfehlungen/AstraZeneca-Impfstoff-2021-03-30.html23:33
BrainstormNew from ScienceNews: Pfizer says its COVID-19 vaccine has 100 percent efficacy in young people: Vaccinated 12- to 15-year-olds developed higher levels of coronavirus antibodies compared with vaccinated 16- to 25-year-olds from a previous trial. → https://is.gd/FPI9hC23:34
de-factowe urgently need more production capacity, i only can repeat myself again and again and again23:34
de-factomy secret hope is CureVac23:35
de-factobut it takes so soo sooo long till they get approved, probably till summer :/23:40
de-factonow they already have mutants in their trials probably23:42
de-factoquestion is if numbers even are comparable23:43
de-factoi guess not23:43
de-facto.tr <de Für die Auswertung unserer Studie und Bewertung der Wirksamkeit unseres Vakzins benötigen wir eine bestimmte Anzahl an Infektionen für jeweils einen Virustyp, um eine statistisch relevante Größenordnung zu erreichen. Dazu müssen wir wissen, mit welchem Virus wir es jeweils zu tun haben - deshalb nehmen wir die Sequenzierung vor.23:44
Brainstormde-facto, German to English: To evaluate our study and assess the effectiveness of our vaccine, we need a certain number of infections for each virus type in order to achieve a statistically relevant order of magnitude. To do this, we need to know which virus we are dealing with - that's why we do the sequencing. (MyMemory, Google) [... want %more?]23:44
BrainstormNew from Ars Technica: Science: Moderna’s variant-specific COVID vaccine heads into trial, NIH reports → https://is.gd/0yizST23:45
de-facto.title https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.22.435960v123:45
Brainstormde-facto: From www.biorxiv.org: CVnCoV protects human ACE2 transgenic mice from ancestral B BavPat1 and emerging B.1.351 SARS-CoV-2 | bioRxiv23:45
najari[m]what's this blood clot stuff I hear about astrazeneca?23:46
najari[m]<de-facto "we urgently need more production"> start a petition and I'll sign it23:48
de-facto.title https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-362354/v123:51
Brainstormde-facto: From www.researchsquare.com: A Prothrombotic Thrombocytopenic Disorder Resembling Heparin-Induced Thrombocytopenia Following Coronavirus-19 Vaccination | Research Square23:51
de-facto.title https://gth-online.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/GTH-Statement-AstraZeneca_englisch_3-29-2021.pdf "Updated GTH statement on vaccination with the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine, as of March 29, 2021"23:52
Brainstormde-facto, the URL could not be loaded23:53
de-facto.title https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/03/rare-clotting-disorder-may-cloud-worlds-hopes-astrazenecas-covid-19-vaccine23:54
Brainstormde-facto: From www.sciencemag.org: A rare clotting disorder may cloud the world's hopes for AstraZeneca's COVID-19 vaccine | Science | AAAS23:54
de-factonajari[m], ^^23:54
de-factobut its rare one in 25k or such23:54
de-factomain risk group are young women23:54
de-factoso still in many places the risk from COVID ist higher23:56
de-facto.title https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/03/modernas-variant-specific-covid-vaccine-heads-into-trial-nih-reports/23:57
Brainstormde-facto: From arstechnica.com: Trial started for vaccine against one of the scariest coronavirus variants | Ars Technica23:57
de-factothats very good that they *finally* are starting with that23:57
de-factowhat took them so loooong?23:57
najari[m]<de-facto "but its rare one in 25k or such"> i read it's rare especially compared to risks from covid, so why are countries backpedaling? is it to appeal to the anti-vaxxers or something?23:57
bin_bashde-facto: you're joking right23:58
de-factojoking?23:58

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