| LjL | finely[m], yeah i just hope it's not a myth we're unwittingly perpetuating. i mean i "heard" it too but definitely not from studies, for all i know i could have heard it from you and you from me :P | 00:26 |
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| LjL | it's the kind of thing that one hopes is true | 00:26 |
| de-facto | btw long covid is quite common in recoveries | 00:35 |
| de-facto | .title https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366(21)00084-5/fulltext | 00:35 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.thelancet.com: 6-month neurological and psychiatric outcomes in 236 379 survivors of COVID-19: a retrospective cohort study using electronic health records - The Lancet Psychiatry | 00:35 |
| de-facto | .title https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2776560 | 00:38 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From jamanetwork.com: Sequelae in Adults at 6 Months After COVID-19 Infection | Infectious Diseases | JAMA Network Open | JAMA Network | 00:38 |
| de-facto | .title https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.11.21253225v3 | 00:41 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.medrxiv.org: Are vaccines safe in patients with Long COVID? A prospective observational study | medRxiv | 00:41 |
| de-facto | (the medrxiv is a preprint though, so without peer review | 00:42 |
| de-facto | .title https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.22.21254057v2 | 00:44 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.medrxiv.org: Physical, cognitive and mental health impacts of COVID-19 following hospitalisation – a multi-centre prospective cohort study | medRxiv | 00:44 |
| de-facto | some sort of autoimmune issue also might be involved possibly | 00:47 |
| de-facto | .title https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00149-1 | 00:49 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.nature.com: Rogue antibodies could be driving severe COVID-19 | 00:49 |
| de-facto | i would be curious if living in city would increase the probability of long COVID compared to living at a farm or such | 00:50 |
| de-facto | also about the prevalence of long COVID in first world countries compared ot third world countries | 00:57 |
| de-facto | from the nature article | 00:59 |
| de-facto | "Scientists are very interested in understanding whether autoimmunity is linked to long COVID, too. “First of all, we don’t know if these autoantibodies contribute to long COVID, but if they do, what is the longevity? How long will they last? How long is the body going to keep producing those antibodies?” Ring says. But answering these questions is a complicated endeavour, because people naturally produce many different kin | 00:59 |
| de-facto | ds of antibody, including autoantibodies." | 00:59 |
| de-facto | "Ring hopes that research into viruses and autoimmunity will eventually get much-needed answers for individuals with post-viral autoimmunity, which might include those with COVID-19. “These patients are just so frustrated,” he says. “Their physicians don’t believe them and so they get psych referrals. Just to be able to tell these people they have a real disease and here’s what’s causing it — that would be really meaningful. | 01:00 |
| de-facto | ”" | 01:00 |
| de-facto | also there might possibly be small pockets and or "sanctuaries" where SARS-CoV-2 was not fully neutralized | 01:03 |
| de-facto | .title https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03207-w | 01:03 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.nature.com: Evolution of antibody immunity to SARS-CoV-2 | Nature | 01:03 |
| de-facto | " Immunofluorescence and PCR analyses of intestinal biopsies obtained from asymptomatic individuals at 4 months after the onset of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) revealed the persistence of SARS-CoV-2 nucleic acids and immunoreactivity in the small bowel of 7 out of 14 individuals. We conclude that the memory B cell response to SARS-CoV-2 evolves between 1.3 and 6.2 months after infection in a manner that is consistent with antigen | 01:04 |
| de-facto | persistence." | 01:04 |
| de-facto | i would probably try to get an analysis of blood for deficits (minerals, vitamins etc), get an mRNA vaccination (to lead immune system on the correct way, increase neutralizing antibodies etc) and try to live extra healthy (very good nutrition, regular day-night rhythm, daily sports, cold showers, sauna, also maybe do something "dirty" in the nature (to expose immune system to other stimulation)) | 01:15 |
| de-facto | who knows, maybe one day we even might have mRNA therapies against autoimmune issues | 01:25 |
| de-facto | .title https://www.nature.com/articles/s41587-021-00880-0 | 01:25 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From www.nature.com: mRNA vaccines take on immune tolerance | Nature Biotechnology | 01:25 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Health: ‘Covid infection can cause liver damage’ → https://is.gd/b1Kkmq | 01:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Covid-19: How India failed to prevent a deadly second wave → https://is.gd/bpEAyf | 02:20 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Oxford vaccine supply uncertainty prompts Bangladesh to look at China, Russia for Covid vaccine → https://is.gd/rLEdCh | 03:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: A leading conspiracy theorist who thought COVID-19 was a hoax died from the virus after hosting illegal house parties → https://is.gd/0hV6wo | 03:42 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Britain is investigating COVID-19 variant originating in India → https://is.gd/GJJaIt | 04:42 |
| LjL | oh take your time, don't investigate it too fast | 04:42 |
| CoronaBot | /r/coronavirus: Half of US adults have received at least 1 dose of COVID-19 vaccine, CDC says (10148 votes) | https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/national/coronavirus/half-of-us-adults-have-received-at-least-1-dose-of-covid-19-vaccine-cdc-says | https://redd.it/mti7xf | 04:52 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Russian scientists plan to launch world’s first edible Covid-19 vaccine… and promise it will taste like fermented milky yogurt → https://is.gd/hO8Llp | 05:03 |
| finely[m] | <LjL "finely, yeah i just hope it's no"> As they say the, the plural of anecdote is anecdotes - NOT data. The immunity conferred by the vaccine is better (and longer lasting) than just the infection, isn't it? So even if you've been infected, you should still get vaccinated, right? Especially with newer variants going around. | 05:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Half of US adults have received at least one COVID-19 shot → https://is.gd/VChOYF | 06:24 |
| finely[m] | * As they say, the the plural of anecdote is anecdotes - NOT data. The immunity conferred by the vaccine is better (and longer lasting) than just the infection, isn't it? So even if you've been infected, you should still get vaccinated, right? Especially with newer variants going around. | 06:29 |
| finely[m] | https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/03/31/982799452/mysterious-ailment-mysterious-relief-vaccines-help-some-covid-long-haulers | 06:29 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: How the tiny kingdom of Bhutan out-vaccinated most of the world → https://is.gd/xB2aum | 06:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: South African variant may ‘break through’ Pfizer vaccine protection, but vaccine highly effective, Israeli study says → https://is.gd/1Wc5d2 | 06:45 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Russia, China using their COVID-19 vaccines to gain political power → https://is.gd/Cst0OO | 07:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from Virology.ws: Trial By Error: Northwestern Law Professor Steven Lubet Corresponds with McMaster U. About That WSJ Op-Ed: By David Tuller, DrPH A recent Wall Street Journal opinion piece accused an apparently powerful “queer feminist wellness collective” of causing an international wave of mental illness, which is being expressed as reports [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/2y8WWg | 07:15 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Health: As COVID cases make a resurgence, here’s what you need to know about disinfection → https://is.gd/coHLO2 | 07:25 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Journalist dies from suspected Covid after frantic tweets for help → https://is.gd/cXwzj9 | 08:16 |
| Robinson | !corona usa | 08:24 |
| CoronaBot | USA: Global rank: #1, cases: 32,404,463, fatalities: 581,061, active cases: 6,862,173, total recovered: 24,961,229, in a serious condition: 9,814. Mortality: 1.79%, case fatality rate: 2.27%, cases/1M: 97443.0, deaths/1M: 1747.0. Case rate: 43,181/24h, death rate: 310/24h. Tests: 429,220,719, tests/1M: 1,290,703. | 08:24 |
| Robinson | !corona india | 08:25 |
| CoronaBot | India: Global rank: #2, cases: 15,061,919 (+4,152), fatalities: 178,793, active cases: 1,929,305, total recovered: 12,953,821, in a serious condition: 8,944. Mortality: 1.19%, case fatality rate: 1.36%, cases/1M: 10830.0, deaths/1M: 129.0. Case rate: 275,306/24h, death rate: 1,625/24h. Tests: 267,894,549, tests/1M: 192,620. | 08:25 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: American export controls threaten to hinder global vaccine production → https://is.gd/2Em79r | 08:47 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Indian farmers vow to carry on months-long protest despite concerns over coronavirus → https://is.gd/Kgd7A5 | 08:57 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Canada to send support to virus-hit province: Canada will funnel additional health staff and equipment into virus-hit Ontario as the province battles a worrying spike in COVID-19 infections, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said Sunday. → https://is.gd/zbUBSe | 09:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Do we need masks outdoors? Experts weigh in: It's a familiar sight in some US cities like Washington, New York and San Francisco: people walking on the street, riding bikes or sitting in parks with their masks on even when they're far away from others. → https://is.gd/bo7QgX | 09:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: In the Philippines, people are putting makeshift community pantries to help those affected by the lockdowns to get food, basic necessities. → https://is.gd/AvWlRD | 09:48 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Opinion: STAT+: The FDA should embrace remote and automated drug inspection technology: Inspecting manufacturing facilities is a vital part of drug approval and production. Pandemic-related halting of it can create shortages in the global drug supply chain and threaten another global health… → https://is.gd/vMvCAB | 11:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from Politico: Coronavirus: EU boosts order of BioNTech/Pfizer vaccine to 600M doses → https://is.gd/0jrf0j | 11:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Health: ‘Initially, I did feel complete panic’: Sameera Reddy on her children testing Covid positive → https://is.gd/L04RBp | 11:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from EMA: What's new: Medicine: Human medicines European public assessment report (EPAR): MenQuadfi, meningococcal group A, C, W-135 and Y conjugate vaccine, Meningitis, Meningococcal, Date of authorisation: 18/11/2020, Revision: 1, Status: Authorised → https://is.gd/2qXcLo | 12:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from BMJ: Sixty seconds on . . . dog bites: Who let the dogs out?Good question. Arguably you could say it was Prime Minister Boris Johnson when he announced a national lockdown in England in March 2020. While there are no official figures,... → https://is.gd/QoENEz | 12:33 |
| Atque | How long does the vaccine give you immunity for you reckon? | 12:33 |
| voltage_ | 7 days | 12:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from BMJ: There is a real danger that covid-19 will become entrenched as a disease of poverty: Since reaching a height of around 70 000 confirmed covid-19 cases a day in England at the start of the year, the third lockdown has brought cases down to around 2500 a day (at the time of writing).... → https://is.gd/TVvwRv | 12:43 |
| mobidrop | lol of course, it's already like that | 12:44 |
| mobidrop | there's plenty of diseases that kill way more 3rd world people but we don't give a single shit because it's not a problem here | 12:45 |
| mobidrop | only covid is | 12:45 |
| zutt | yep, they're just pandemics, not global pandemics | 12:46 |
| zutt | isn't TB still killing half a million of people in india annually? | 12:46 |
| zutt | (my numbers are way off, half a million cases in india & neighbouring countries - not dead people ^ numbers taken out of my butt) | 12:47 |
| mobidrop | we lose 25000 people to hunger every day apparently | 12:48 |
| zutt | https://tbfacts.org/tb-statistics-india/ way off.. | 12:48 |
| zutt | yeah, thats an big issue as well.. | 12:49 |
| mobidrop | and what about obesity and smoking? | 12:54 |
| mobidrop | they massively increase chances of death (and dying from covid also) | 12:54 |
| mobidrop | if we're going to have health passes I think it should also contain smoking status or obesity status haha | 12:54 |
| mobidrop | but that would be "fat shaming" | 12:54 |
| zutt | these health passes are nothing new around the world | 12:57 |
| Brainstorm | New from WHO Euro: Health equity takes centre stage on WHO Regional Director’s visit to Romania: Leaving no one behind in health has taken on a greater sense of urgency during the COVID-19 pandemic. On a country visit coinciding with World Health Day, the WHO Regional Director for Europe, Dr Hans Henri P. Kluge, highlighted the importance of equity [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/nxaE6Y | 13:15 |
| Brainstorm | New from ScienceNews: Here’s what we know about B.1.1.7, the U.S.’s dominant coronavirus strain: Studies show the variant is more contagious and may cause more severe COVID-19 overall. But vaccines still work against B.1.1.7. → https://is.gd/p0oFdM | 14:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Nearly every India-Toronto flight this month carried COVID+ passengers → https://is.gd/LLHep1 | 14:28 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Canadian Medical Association urges national action to curb third wave of COVID-19: The Canadian Medical Association (CMA) is calling for a national emergency response to the COVID-19 crisis unfolding in Ontario and other provinces. → https://is.gd/C8q3vF | 14:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): COVID19: Evidence of COVID-19 airborne transmission “overwhelming” say experts → https://is.gd/9Z2xwt | 15:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: International research: Brazilian COVID-19 variant much more transmissible than other strains: An international team of researchers has found evidence suggesting that the P.1 coronavirus variant that was first seen in parts of Brazil may be up to twice as transmissible as prior strains. In their paper published in the journal [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/iPRALM | 15:11 |
| CoronaBot | /r/covid19: Evidence of COVID-19 airborne transmission “overwhelming” say experts (86 votes) | https://newatlas.com/health-wellbeing/covid19-sars-cov-2-airborne-transmission-aerosol-evidence-study/ | https://redd.it/mtzjng | 15:27 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Pharma: STAT+: Pharmalittle: J&J denies design of its Covid-19 shot may explain blood clots; second trial against opioid makers begins → https://is.gd/kXrFf4 | 15:31 |
| de-facto | .title https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2021/04/13/science.abh2644 | 15:40 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From science.sciencemag.org: Genomics and epidemiology of the P.1 SARS-CoV-2 lineage in Manaus, Brazil | Science | 15:40 |
| de-facto | "Using a two-category dynamical model that integrates genomic and mortality data, we estimate that P.1 may be 1.7–2.4-fold more transmissible, and that previous (non-P.1) infection provides 54–79% of the protection against infection with P.1 that it provides against non-P.1 lineages." | 15:40 |
| de-facto | shall we say "lovely"? | 15:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from Derek Lowe: @ScottGottliebMD: RT by @Dereklowe: Convalescent plasma for the treatment of Covid: An article on plasma's history by @NYTimes underscores the importance of investing early in definitive studies like the British RECOVERY trial so we can get clear answers more quickly in a crisis.... (1/2) [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/DDJdhZ | 15:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from BMJ: Covid-19: Pregnant women should be offered Pfizer or Moderna vaccine, says UK advisory committee: Pregnant women should be offered the Pfizer BioNTech or Moderna covid-19 vaccine at the same time as the rest of the population, with priority based on age and clinical risk group, the government’s... → https://is.gd/FalHWK | 16:14 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: No, vaccine side effects don't tell you how well your immune system will protect you from COVID-19: If someone gets a headache or feels a bit under the weather after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine, it's become common to hear them say something like "Oh, it just means my immune system is really working hard." On the flip side, [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/sNWWdv | 16:45 |
| Brainstorm | New from In The Pipeline: New Electron Tricks in Synthetic Chemistry: One of specialties of Phil Baran’s group at Scripps the last few years has been electrosynthesis, which has a traditional hmm-interesting-turn-the-page reputation among most synthetic chemists that they’re trying to change. Photochemistry was in roughly the same category at one [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/TSefkQ | 16:56 |
| -RSSBot[LjLmatrix- Feed: Superlega calcio, nota del Presidente Draghi ( http://www.governo.it/it/articolo/superlega-calcio-nota-del-presidente-draghi/16656 ) | 16:56 | |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: India added to coronavirus ‘red list’: India is added to the “red list” of countries from which most travel to the UK is banned amid Covid concerns. → https://is.gd/pPrPTM | 17:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from StatNews: Biotech: STAT+: Adagio raises $336 million to advance Covid-19 antibody treatment → https://is.gd/49hqsx | 17:28 |
| Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Live Microbials to Boost Anti-Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus-2 (SARS-CoV-2) Immunity Clinical Trial → https://is.gd/1ndkuv | 17:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): Automatic Oxygen Titration in Patients After SARS-CoV-2 Infection → https://is.gd/MdAQk6 | 17:59 |
| Brainstorm | New from ClinicalTrials.gov: (news): A Study to Evaluate the Safety and Efficacy of C19-IG 20% in SARS-CoV-2 Infected Asymptomatic Ambulatory Outpatients → https://is.gd/p9qaxv | 18:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: How many cases in your area?: Explore the data on coronavirus in the UK and find out how many cases there are in your area. → https://is.gd/8rLBbe | 18:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: NI Covid-19 vaccine bookings to open for 35-39 group: Vaccines for a limited number of people aged between 35 and 39 are being made available from Monday. → https://is.gd/DokO1r | 18:41 |
| CoronaBot | /r/coronavirus: Adults in all U.S. states are now eligible for vaccination (10328 votes) | https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/19/world/adults-eligible-covid-vaccine.html | https://redd.it/mtzjkn | 19:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test): CoronaVirus_2019_nCoV: 'Spreading fear on purpose for ratings': Fox News host slams Tucker Carlson's anti-vaccine reporting → https://is.gd/uGmCij | 19:12 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Fast-jabbing Israel buys millions more Pfizer Covid shots: Israel signed Monday an agreement with pharmaceutical giant Pfizer enabling the Jewish state to obtain millions more doses of vaccines, a government statement said. → https://is.gd/HbyKXq | 19:44 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: WHO rejects Covid passport schemes over fears vaccines don’t stop virus transmission → https://is.gd/2VZ8UV | 19:55 |
| Brainstorm | New from Science Daily: SARS-CoV-2 variants from minks evade inhibition by antibodies: Immune responses in SARS-CoV-2 patients might provide only incomplete protection against SARS-CoV-2 variants from minks. → https://is.gd/a5cep8 | 20:36 |
| LjL | not the minks again -.- | 20:37 |
| diofantoz | KILL THE MINKS | 20:38 |
| diofantoz | erhm | 20:38 |
| LjL | well they've done that to a pretty fair extent already | 20:38 |
| diofantoz | yea, poor minks | 20:38 |
| diofantoz | taking the blame | 20:38 |
| LjL | hmm this mink article refers to this press release https://www.dpz.eu/en/home/single-view/news/sars-cov-2-varianten-aus-nerzen-werden-schlechter-durch-antikoerper-gehemmt.html and says things about the "mink mutation" Y453K but to me those things seem like the ones already known at https://covariants.org/variants/S.Y453F | 20:45 |
| LjL | although i don't quite understand why the mutation doesn't show at all here https://nextstrain.org/ncov/europe?c=gt-S_453&f_region=Europe | 20:46 |
| LjL | except in belarus(?) | 20:46 |
| CoronaBot | /r/covid19: COVID-19 dynamics after a national immunization program in Israel (83 votes) | https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01337-2 | https://redd.it/mu2ot0 | 21:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Indian Journalist Got COVID and Died Live-Tweeting His Wait for a Hospital Bed → https://is.gd/nRY4oA | 21:28 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Nepal’s President prorogues House session amid Covid surge → https://is.gd/xvonP5 | 21:49 |
| CoronaBot | /r/covid19: Large clinical trial to study repurposed drugs to treat COVID-19 symptoms (81 votes) | https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/large-clinical-trial-study-repurposed-drugs-treat-covid-19-symptoms | https://redd.it/mu50no | 22:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Israel: No More Outdoor Mask Rule After More Than Half Vaccinated → https://is.gd/iArSCn | 22:10 |
| de-facto | LjL, https://nextstrain.org/groups/neherlab/ncov/S.Y453F | 22:12 |
| de-facto | from https://nextstrain.org/groups/neherlab/ | 22:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Covid-19: India added to coronavirus red list for travel → https://is.gd/FDuwex | 23:15 |
| LjL | about time | 23:19 |
| LjL | ugh https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/mu9stf/covid19_india_added_to_coronavirus_red_list_for/gv4lt17/ | 23:21 |
| Arsanerit | How is anybody still travelling anywhere? | 23:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Non-stop cremations cast doubt on India's counting of COVID dead → https://is.gd/0JAPmc | 23:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from NPR: Joy, Relief In Airports As Australia And New Zealand Open 'Travel Bubble': Families and friends met in airports for the first time in over a year after Australia and New Zealand opened a "bubble" of quarantine-free travel between their countries. → https://is.gd/c4aiY9 | 23:56 |
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