fsmithred | KatolaZ, you what I didn't do? Remove the b43 package names from the removal script. | 00:01 |
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KatolaZ | I have removed them | 00:05 |
KatolaZ | (from minimal-live) | 00:05 |
blinkdog | smh https://news.slashdot.org/story/18/06/01/2034202/microsoft-is-talking-about-acquiring-github-says-report | 00:37 |
fsmithred | oh good. I need clippy to help me navigate git. | 00:38 |
KatolaZ | oh FFS | 00:40 |
NewGnuGuy | please no | 00:42 |
kilobyte | gitlab and co couldn't have asked for a better thing to happen to them | 00:43 |
kilobyte | for the rest of us, having to update URLs will suck but is not the end of the world | 00:44 |
NewGnuGuy | Looks like I may be getting serious about registering at notabug.org | 00:46 |
fsmithred | KatolaZ, rc0 files from May 2 are same as rc? | 01:16 |
NewGnuGuy | fsmithred: The rc0 ISOs are different I believe. | 01:22 |
NewGnuGuy | I have both rc0 as well as rc isos. Is there a particular pair you'd like me to compare? | 01:23 |
NewGnuGuy | fsmithred: I just compared the amd64_dvd-1 rc0 vs rc isos against each other and the hashes differ. | 01:29 |
golinux | parazyd: Are we going to have a torrent/magnet available for stable? If yes please get me the link(s) to put on the website. | 01:34 |
golinux | The old presentation is hidden in the html for reference if you need it. | 01:35 |
golinux | Is ASCII also going to be an LTS? | 01:38 |
golinux | KatolaZ: ^^^ | 01:39 |
fsmithred | ok, I'll have to download again | 02:17 |
KatolaZ | golinux: you won't have a link for the torrent before all the images are in place | 07:00 |
golinux | Ah, OK. | 07:20 |
golinux | KatolaZ: Do you have a minute to look at this page? https://beta.devuan.org/os/etc/apt/sources.list.d/ | 07:21 |
golinux | Should we add a section for oldstable? | 07:21 |
KatolaZ | golinux: ? | 07:22 |
KatolaZ | jessie remains jessie | 07:22 |
KatolaZ | we use only codenames | 07:22 |
KatolaZ | but we had worked at that page for the RC right? | 07:23 |
KatolaZ | I am confused | 07:23 |
golinux | Yes | 07:23 |
golinux | Don't be confused | 07:23 |
golinux | I think we need to be clear that jessie will be oldstable and ASCII now stable | 07:24 |
KatolaZ | golinux: KISS | 07:25 |
KatolaZ | super-KISS | 07:25 |
KatolaZ | more pages are not always more useful | 07:25 |
KatolaZ | https://devuan.org/os/ | 07:25 |
golinux | Let me merge a few pages to beta.devuan.org so you can see what I'm doing. | 07:25 |
KatolaZ | the information reported ^^^ here is more then enough | 07:25 |
golinux | There will not be more pages. Where did you get that idea? | 07:25 |
golinux | I have made changes to that page. | 07:26 |
golinux | Give ma a few minute to merge. | 07:26 |
golinux | ma > me | 07:26 |
KatolaZ | https://beta.devuan.org/os/etc/apt/sources.list.d/ <- where does this come from? | 07:26 |
golinux | Ask hellekin | 07:28 |
golinux | It's been there since the site was first created. | 07:29 |
golinux | Can you please go to beta.devuan.org? I rewrote the opening para. | 07:29 |
golinux | https://beta.devuan.org/os/etc/apt/sources.list links to https://beta.devuan.org/os/etc/apt/sources.list.d/ where there is more detailed description of the various repos. | 07:30 |
golinux | I think it did it that way to keep the entry page from being too complicated. | 07:31 |
golinux | I have requested that chillfan, msi and NewGnuGuy get PGPs before the release to put on the site. | 07:33 |
KatolaZ | golinux: I won't touch that page | 07:40 |
KatolaZ | is it even reachable from anywhere? | 07:40 |
KatolaZ | (linked?) | 07:40 |
golinux | Yes, from https://beta.devuan.org/os/etc/apt/sources.list | 07:40 |
golinux | It describes what the various repos are for. We went through that page for the RC. | 07:41 |
KatolaZ | golinux: but you have all the repos in there already | 07:41 |
KatolaZ | https://beta.devuan.org/os/etc/apt/sources.list.d/ | 07:42 |
KatolaZ | ^^^^ this page | 07:42 |
golinux | There is more detail on the second page. Not defending it. Just describing it. | 07:42 |
KatolaZ | refers to stuff that does not exist | 07:42 |
golinux | You OKd it for the RC. | 07:42 |
KatolaZ | there is no file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-stable-security.list | 07:42 |
KatolaZ | no golinux | 07:42 |
KatolaZ | this is the first time I see that page | 07:42 |
KatolaZ | I had seen https://beta.devuan.org/os/etc/apt/sources.list | 07:43 |
KatolaZ | not https://beta.devuan.org/os/etc/apt/sources.list.d/ | 07:43 |
KatolaZ | and I didn't notice the reference to all those files under sources.list.d | 07:43 |
KatolaZ | :( | 07:43 |
KatolaZ | again, IMHO KISS | 07:45 |
golinux | Well the site has more or less been like that for 3 years. | 07:45 |
KatolaZ | having said that, you decide | 07:45 |
KatolaZ | but please, try to simplify as much as possible | 07:45 |
golinux | I am mostly working in a vacuum all on my own. That's why I pester you for feedback. | 07:46 |
golinux | Should I merge those two pages? | 07:46 |
KatolaZ | golinux: pester others as well :) | 07:46 |
KatolaZ | I am not the bible | 07:46 |
golinux | You're not? | 07:46 |
KatolaZ | can't, hadn't, won't | 07:47 |
golinux | I have not seen chillfan for a while. msi is hardly ever around. I can't do this alone. | 07:48 |
golinux | <golinux> Should I merge those two pages? | 07:48 |
KatolaZ | golinux: I won't decide on that | 07:50 |
KatolaZ | you are the web czar :) | 07:50 |
KatolaZ | I think we should massively simplify | 07:51 |
KatolaZ | the sources.list.d page does not need to report the repos line again, for instance | 07:51 |
KatolaZ | that's a useless and confusing addition. IMHO | 07:51 |
KatolaZ | people get there only if they want to know what "-proposed" is | 07:51 |
KatolaZ | the explanation works for any codename | 07:52 |
golinux | I play with with visuals and am a good editor for something that is already written. I am not the content czar | 07:52 |
KatolaZ | the actual line depends on the codename | 07:52 |
KatolaZ | (I am giving you feedback) | 07:52 |
golinux | I already have <release codename> in most of the source options. | 07:53 |
golinux | Nut some have the actual codename instead. | 07:54 |
KatolaZ | i think this page -> https://beta.devuan.org/os/etc/apt/sources.list.d/ | 07:57 |
KatolaZ | is quite misleading | 07:57 |
KatolaZ | it's mixing stuff | 07:58 |
KatolaZ | and confuses instead of clarifying | 07:58 |
KatolaZ | there is no avail in putting any reference to ascii or ceres there | 07:58 |
golinux | or jessie? | 07:59 |
KatolaZ | if it's a page to explain what the different suites are, it shouldn't mix codenames | 07:59 |
KatolaZ | or anything | 07:59 |
KatolaZ | also, I would really avoid to keep putting "stable" and "texting" as <code> (or whatever it is) | 08:00 |
KatolaZ | people should not use "stable" or "testing" in their sources.list | 08:00 |
golinux | Why don't I move the more detailed descriptions of each repository to the sources.list page and disconnect (or remove) sources.lost.d | 08:02 |
golinux | Problem is that it is indexed in the search engines so will produce a 404 if removed. | 08:03 |
KatolaZ | golinux: the web evolves | 08:04 |
KatolaZ | pages get removed | 08:04 |
KatolaZ | all the time | 08:04 |
golinux | Sorry for the typos. I'm about finished for the night. | 08:04 |
KatolaZ | shall we leave up all the indexed pages? | 08:04 |
KatolaZ | :) | 08:04 |
KatolaZ | go to sleep | 08:04 |
KatolaZ | a tired person is a useless one | 08:04 |
KatolaZ | :_ | 08:04 |
KatolaZ | :) | 08:04 |
golinux | Before I go . . . Did you look at the opening of the index page? | 08:05 |
KatolaZ | uh? | 08:06 |
golinux | https://devuan.org | 08:06 |
golinux | I alos redid the chart | 08:06 |
KatolaZ | which chart? | 08:09 |
golinux | On the index page | 08:10 |
golinux | I also redid the Quick Overview on https://beta.devuan.org/os/ | 08:11 |
golinux | brb | 08:11 |
fsmithred | thunderstorms coming, and I have to go out for the day. Shutting down... | 15:41 |
golinux | KatolaZ: You around? This is at the bottom of https://beta.devuan.org/os/ | 22:09 |
golinux | Source repositories are stored in /etc/apt/sources.list*. | 22:09 |
golinux | The recommended configuration is to leave the main repository in /etc/apt/sources.list and use repository-specific files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d: | 22:09 |
KatolaZ | dinner | 22:09 |
KatolaZ | bbl | 22:10 |
golinux | I think that is why hellekin creeated a separate oage for sources.list.d | 22:10 |
golinux | OK. I'm pecking away at it. | 22:10 |
NewGnuGuy | o/ | 22:35 |
golinux | NewGnuGuy: You got the email I sent? | 22:38 |
NewGnuGuy | checking... | 22:38 |
NewGnuGuy | about GPG keys, yes? | 22:41 |
golinux | Yes. And help with the website corrections. | 22:43 |
golinux | msi created a pad for that | 22:44 |
golinux | I'm going through it atm. | 22:44 |
NewGnuGuy | found it | 22:47 |
golinux | I'm going to start integrating the sources.list and sources.list.d pages | 23:16 |
golinux | NewGnuGuy: Could you please have a look at https://beta.devuan.org/os/etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ? | 23:26 |
golinux | What of that page should be salvaged for https://beta.devuan.org/os/etc/apt/sources.list ? | 23:27 |
NewGnuGuy | On the sources.list page, under the "Additional repositories" heading there is the line "See /etc/apt/sources.lists.d for detailed explanations." | 23:54 |
NewGnuGuy | I would start by moving those Repo descriptions directly into to sources.list page. | 23:55 |
NewGnuGuy | golinux: ^^^ | 23:55 |
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