libera/#devuan-dev/ Thursday, 2018-06-28

pixelherodevTwas merely a joke00:50
pixelherodevMay the meeting gods shine on you and your donut boxes always overflow.00:51
pixelherodev:D00:51
pixelherodevMore seriously though, I found another great use for Devuan00:51
pixelherodevNamely, ca-certificates-java source.00:51
pixelherodevThe Ubuntu MATE one is broken, so I rsynced the file over from Devuan :P00:52
MikeWinkStreaminHello Ops06:43
MikeWinkStreaminMade a few small financial donates, having problems with the month contrib. option06:43
MikeWinkStreaminRather it never works06:43
MikeWinkStreaminTried 3 times with no success06:43
MikeWinkStreaminWould love to mirror, we have bandwidth up the Wazooo in Dallas Texas as two DC's06:44
MikeWinkStreaminsites are 128.201.147.0/24 and 199.188.147.0/24 - AS5508206:44
MikeWinkStreaminif I get disconnected please email me at michael@winkstreaming.com06:51
KatolaZMikeWinkStreamin: have a look at the package mirror walkthrough please09:24
KatolaZhttps://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan_mirror_walkthrough.txt09:24
KatolaZMikeWinkStreamin: ^^^09:24
onefangHmm, claws-mail in ASCII can sign my emails once more.  I might have fixed it accidentally while fixing something else.09:27
onefangOne less thing on my migration TODO to worry about.  I'm still gonna replace it later anyway though.09:28
RyushinDoes the devuan-dev mailing list send a copy of the message to the person who sent to it?  I sent an email yesterday about zfs and I never received a copy of the sent message from the list.  My mail server shows it was sent successfully.14:11
KatolaZRyushin: it's a configurable option14:11
KatolaZf you haven't changed anything, you should receive also your own messages14:12
RyushinKatolaZ: Hmmm... I guess I need to send it again because I never received a copy.14:19
RyushinAnd I'm assuming that you never received it either.14:20
msiismto the coward who has repeatedly edited my notes on yesterdays meet pad. if you have a comment on what i wrote there, follow the rule and put your name on it. otherwise, just stop it!14:25
KatolaZRyushin: what was it about?14:30
KatolaZthere was one email about ZFS14:30
KatolaZmsiism: uh?14:31
msiismKatolaZ: someone does not seem to like me saying that there are still flaws on the website, so I had a "(maybe, maybe not)" silently added to that yesterday and a "(maybe)" today.14:32
msiismKatolaZ: if you ask me, this is a clear no-go.14:33
KatolaZo_O14:33
KatolaZI see on line 48:14:34
KatolaZ Apart from that: still working on remaining flaws on the website14:34
KatolaZ   (with golinux and others)14:34
KatolaZis this what you are referring to?14:35
msiismKatolaZ: yes, i have already edited it out again.14:35
KatolaZmsiism: pads are public ...14:35
msiismi believe that's not the issue here. that's why i decided to make a bit of a fuzz in this channel.14:36
KatolaZmsiism: you are addressing the wrong people possibly14:36
KatolaZI guess it might just be a troll14:36
RyushinKatolaZ: I sent it a second time and I received the reply from mailman and I received a copy.14:38
KatolaZRyushin: it's the same email you sent already14:38
msiismKatolaZ: ok, i guess if that person is in here, the message was clear. no need for more noise then. have a nice day.14:38
KatolaZmsiism: uh?14:38
KatolaZmsiism: I am pretty sure it was not one of the devs14:38
KatolaZwe never delete or amend stuff written by others14:39
RyushinKatolaZ: Okay, so it did go through yesterday.  That is what I was finding strange.  I never received a message from mailman.  I thought it just went into some black hole somewhere.14:39
msiismKatolaZ: ok, noted.14:39
RyushinApologies for the noise then.14:41
KatolaZno noise Ryushin14:41
RyushinKatolaZ: Do you feel there is still some animosity from Debian towards Devuan?  At least with the ZFS packages requiring lsb_release to say Debian seems very deliberate and for them to ignore the sysvinit patch for 18 months is starting to seem very deliberate.14:45
RyushinMain, I need another espresso, or at least ready what I'm typing so I don't seem redundant.14:47
KatolaZRyushin: debian has never given that much of a toss about other distros...14:47
RyushinOkay, another espresso is in hand.14:49
RyushinJust for reference, about how many people work on the Debian distro and how many on Devuan?  There are plenty of times I feel that you guys are just so overloaded with everything and I don't know how you do it and hold it all together.14:51
KatolaZRyushin: the ratio would be about 100/114:51
KatolaZroughly14:51
KatolaZat least on paper14:51
KatolaZ:)14:52
RyushinAnd you've forked about 3% of the packages, so you're doing about three times the work.  Holy smokes Batman!14:53
KatolaZwithout counting the infrastructure.... :P14:53
RyushinI don't know how you do it.  I don't have enough time in the day to get done what I need to get done.14:56
KatolaZme neithere15:01
KatolaZbut there are nights :)15:01
RyushinGuess everyone needs to keep their Ballmer Peak up.  https://xkcd.com/323/15:07
golinux<KatolaZ> [07:33:39] msiism: I am pretty sure it was not one of the devs.16:41
golinuxWrong. It was me.  I thought that was clear.16:42
golinuxIt is now.16:42
KatolaZgolinux: uh?17:11
golinuxHe did not like the comment I added to his declaration that there are "flaws" on the website.  Some are valid and some are opinion.17:40
vkrishnhi, I am seeing an extra pkg here, http://sledjhamr.org/devuan/devuan/pool/main/a/ <--22:16
vkrishnas compared to http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/a/22:16
vkrishni.e anna22:16
vkrishndoes pkgmaster.d.o allow rsync ?22:17
vkrishnwould try other mirrors, thanks, gtg22:32

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