| * rrq oops; another cold and dark winter morning, and some two hours late... | 00:37 | |
| golinux | rrq: The sleepy bear didn't miss a thing. | 00:47 |
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| onefang | This looks interesting - https://github.com/sp4rkie/debian-on-termux Installs Debian 9 under Android, without needing root. | 13:39 |
| onefang | It uses debootstrap, which is how I installed Devuan on my desktop and server. | 13:39 |
| parazyd | Isn't termux already debian? | 13:39 |
| onefang | I've not poked at Termux much, but I know it uses apt to install packages. | 13:40 |
| parazyd | Namely | 13:40 |
| onefang | Once I have this house move out of the way, I'll poke at getting Devuan on my smart phone. | 13:41 |
| onefang | I was gonna try it anyway, only with root and using Lil' Deb. | 13:41 |
| parazyd | Let us know :) | 13:43 |
| onefang | Speaking of getting Devuan on my server, that's pretty much done, except for the minor polishing and installing the rest of the monitoring stuff. | 13:43 |
| onefang | It's very annoying that there isn't ONE good monitoring solution, I have to install half a dozen. sigh | 13:44 |
| onefang | Even more annoying, Debian Stretch, and thus ASCII, dropped support for Nagios, I had to switch to Icinga. | 13:45 |
| jaromil | it would be fantastic to have a termux version based on devuan | 13:53 |
| onefang | It's open source, shouldn't be hard. Same goes for Lil' Deb. | 13:54 |
| jaromil | yep. the question is how hard to maintain is | 14:05 |
| jaromil | my bet is that just changing debootstrap should work | 14:05 |
| onefang | As I mentioned above, I'm busy with having to move house right now. After that I might have jury duty for a few weeks. Maybe life will go easy on me after that and I can spend some time poking at Termux and Lil' Deb. | 14:08 |
| jaromil | sounds great! no worries and happy hacking, we all have busy times... more than ever now that we can use an OS that works and doesn't distracts us to fix systemd ;^) | 14:09 |
| onefang | Part of that moving house is that I might end up with an ISP that doesn't allow home servers like my current one doe, so I gotta move all of them to my European server. ARGGHH, it never ends. lol | 14:10 |
| jaromil | use DECODE OS ;^) | 14:38 |
| onefang | Remind me again what DECODE OS is, I've forgotten. | 14:40 |
| jaromil | this is all part of splitted | 14:41 |
| jaromil | ops | 14:41 |
| jaromil | https://decodeos.dyne.org/ | 14:41 |
| jaromil | it pierces any firewall | 14:42 |
| onefang | I doubt it will work for an OpenSim server. Will it allow incoming SMTP connections to my mail server? | 14:44 |
| onefang | Though piercing firewalls isn't my problem, I can do that in many ways. Having a static IP and a domain name with PTR records is the main problem. | 14:58 |
| charh | Hello! #devuan-dev! I've seen your code and I loved it, a while ago I developed a personal script that creates an iso, using a Debian Live as a base | 15:09 |
| charh | your script: https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-sdk/blob/master/scripts/debakker | 15:10 |
| charh | my custom script xD https://gitlab.com/gitchar/budare/blob/master/budare.sh | 15:10 |
| charh | If the project is still active and there is some way I can help, I am willing | 15:11 |
| onefang | About a month ago we made a major release, Devuan ASCII, so I think we are still active. B-) | 15:13 |
| charh | onefang: cool xD. I'm recently looking at the documentation | 15:14 |
| charh | and seeing the bug tracker | 15:16 |
| onefang | I wont be the one you should be talking to about helping in general though. Hopefully one of the others will pipe up soon. | 15:20 |
| charh | thanks onefang :) | 15:20 |
| KatolaZ | charh: you should have a look at the new devuan sdk | 15:23 |
| KatolaZ | https://git.devuan.org/sdk | 15:23 |
| KatolaZ | several other scripts and sdks have been merged into it | 15:24 |
| charh | oh thanks! KatolaZ, I will go read it immediately | 15:25 |
| KatolaZ | charh: using blends is quite easy, and allows a good deal of customisation | 15:28 |
| charh | KatolaZ: Oh yeah! I see that, it's great | 15:32 |
| charh | https://git.devuan.org/sdk/live-sdk/blob/master/blends/devuan-minimal-live/ascii/config | 15:33 |
| charh | minimal_lisp_package+=(sbcl) xD it's a joke | 15:34 |
| charh | but it would be great if it's included ;) | 15:34 |
| charh | I think that every system should have a lisp xD | 15:35 |
| charh | yes, yes, I'm a fan of lisp xD | 15:36 |
| onefang | So you are gonna create a blend called Dethuanth? B-) | 15:36 |
| KatolaZ | charh: it's s bit large in terms of deps ;) | 15:37 |
| KatolaZ | that's why no lisp is in there | 15:37 |
| charh | no, no KatolaZ is a joke, the system and dev is great!, but in general terms I am a fan of lisp | 15:38 |
| charh | onefang: yep | 15:39 |
| charh | onefang: but first I will understand the whole system | 15:39 |
| KatolaZ | charh: I might consider adding newlisp, which is relatively small and portable | 15:39 |
| KatolaZ | :) | 15:40 |
| charh | or chicken-bin KatolaZ? is a scheme lisp compiler | 15:40 |
| onefang | A quick search with synaptic shows pages of Lisp packages. | 15:41 |
| onefang | Including newlisp. | 15:41 |
| onefang | Chicken-bin is in there to. | 15:43 |
| charh | i don't know newlisp, i will go see | 15:43 |
| KatolaZ | charh: it's cute | 15:43 |
| onefang | Mostly the pages of packages are Common Lisp and Emacs Lisp. | 15:45 |
| charh | onefang: This is the official website of scheme chicken, http://www.call-cc.org/ | 15:45 |
| onefang | Ah, you are talking about Devuan minimal live. Oops, my bad. | 15:45 |
| charh | it is wonderful to create binaries without C directly, util for sysadmins | 15:46 |
| charh | KatolaZ: great, I'm reviewing | 15:46 |
| onefang | Lisp isn't one of the hundred languages I've programmed in during my career, and I have no plans to start Lisping anytime soon. | 15:47 |
| charh | oki oki xD, no problem onefang | 15:49 |
| charh | the first comment was really a joke, but I do a blend, I will give it a lisp, a common lisp | 15:49 |
| charh | Does the project make changes to the * .deb packages? | 15:51 |
| charh | *.deb | 15:51 |
| fsmithred | deb packages are changed where dependency on systemd needs to be removed | 15:52 |
| charh | Or use them from the official Debian repository? | 15:52 |
| charh | mmm ok!, thanks fsmithred | 15:52 |
| fsmithred | the rest are pulled from debian and run through a filter to prevent installing systemd | 15:52 |
| charh | great fsmithred!, can i make life in this channel? | 15:54 |
| * fsmithred hands charh a pillow and a blanket | 15:55 | |
| onefang | I suspect procreation is beyond the capabilities of IRC. | 15:55 |
| charh | coool! thanks! :D \o/!! | 15:55 |
| fsmithred | I don't have the link with me, but last weeks meeting notes has a list of packages that probably need to be recompiled | 15:55 |
| fsmithred | there's also a list of banned packages at pkgmaster.devuan.org | 15:56 |
| charh | oh! cool! | 15:57 |
| fsmithred | KatolaZ, were you at yesterday's meeting? | 15:57 |
| KatolaZ | nope fsmithred | 15:57 |
| KatolaZ | missed it | 15:57 |
| fsmithred | me too. I was flying. | 15:57 |
| fsmithred | sun rises really late in california. | 15:58 |
| fsmithred | they're all still asleep here. | 15:58 |
| KatolaZ | indeed | 15:58 |
| KatolaZ | :D | 15:58 |
| onefang | It's almost August, when half of Europe stays in bed late. | 15:59 |
| fsmithred | yeah, we've noticed that | 16:00 |
| fsmithred | so I'm taking a euro vacation now (three weeks) | 16:00 |
| onefang | Have lots of fun. | 16:00 |
| fsmithred | alright, I | 16:01 |
| fsmithred | 'm going off in search of coffee | 16:01 |
| fsmithred | bbl, off and on | 16:01 |
| KatolaZ | fsmithred: coffee? In California? | 16:01 |
| KatolaZ | o_O | 16:01 |
| fsmithred | yeah, they have coffee here | 16:04 |
| fsmithred | they're not all smoking pot | 16:04 |
| onefang | lol | 16:04 |
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