libera/#devuan-dev/ Tuesday, 2018-10-23

Centurion_DanKatolaZ, can you tell me how open-rc is run?  From the openrc package it appears that /sbin/init is still provided by sysvinit....  I want to be sure to differentiate between openrc and sysvinit as init02:22
KatolaZCenturion_Dan: in ascii openrc still needs sysvinit06:39
KatolaZin beowulf it can run its own init06:39
Centurion_DanOk.  That's fine.  I'll be targetting devuan-baptise to experimental and hopefully have it ready in time for beowulf.09:08
Centurion_DanKatolaZ: I spent time this morning following that thread on DNG... so many bad assumptions, most of them repetition.09:20
Centurion_DanFrom what I've discovered having actually done some hard reading of systemd documentation we should be able to generate init configuration for sysvinit, openrc, runit and most other sane unixy inits from the systemd .service units, along with cron jobs from the .timer units, and configs for [x]inetd and other lazy socket activated like services.09:20
Centurion_DanAdditionally we can leverage sd-notify where daemons have been built against systemd api's for service management (supervision and watchdog) without needing anything more then a simple socket listener daemon to receive the messages.09:29
Centurion_DanI think we can even use it to provide a discrete supervision service that works for sysvinit ;-)09:33
KatolaZCenturion_Dan: which thread?09:42
KatolaZ;)09:42
Centurion_Danthe one about buster dropping sysvinit and it's devil spawn "Stop the madness" ;-)09:45
Centurion_Danlots of drivel with a smattering of commonsense from yourself and one or 2 others :-)09:45
Centurion_Dangoing afk for about an hour...09:46
Centurion_Danback... seems the technical discussions in DNG are still ongoing :-P11:40
Centurion_Danquite a lot of energy there...11:40
golinuxHere's the pad for this week's meet: https://pad.dyne.org/code/#/1/edit/ZTpmCImcjyJm+ODvmQTS1A/HfA7Il4aQ3R-EwyQ8MD0O4Kc/20:04

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