LeePen | o/ | 10:14 |
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LeePen | kilobyte: are you here? | 10:14 |
kilobyte | LeePen: meow? | 11:28 |
LeePen | kilobyte: Hi. I am just wondering about elogind for Debian. Ian seems to have lost interest. Do you have upload rights? | 11:30 |
kilobyte | lost interest or busy? | 11:31 |
LeePen | Yes, or busy... | 11:32 |
kilobyte | yeah, can test+upload, that'd be cool | 11:32 |
LeePen | Thanks. Maybe you could offer on the init-diversity list. I posted a tree of 239.3-1+debian1 there for review. | 11:33 |
golinux | To those working on policykit stuff . . . it is still broken in beowulf. This from ToZ on the Xfce forum this morning: | 16:02 |
golinux | "Yes. I installed beowulf using the mini iso (I used the 64-bit one) and am seeing the same error message. I have just finished installing debian buster into a VM and it does not have the same issue. So your intuition is correct - it seems to be an issue with the devuan policykit packages." | 16:02 |
KatolaZ | golinux: there is no policikit in beowulf | 16:02 |
KatolaZ | no policykit from Devuan | 16:02 |
KatolaZ | you have the debian version in there | 16:02 |
golinux | Thene pkexec doesn't work to get root. | 16:02 |
KatolaZ | which cannot be used since it depends on libpam-systemd | 16:02 |
KatolaZ | golinux: please read above | 16:03 |
golinux | I've been leaving notes here for days with no discussion | 16:03 |
KatolaZ | golinux: I have told you at least twice that there is no polkit in beowulf :) | 16:03 |
KatolaZ | there is no working polkit in beowulf | 16:03 |
KatolaZ | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ | 16:03 |
KatolaZ | at the moment | 16:03 |
golinux | Well, thunar custom actions and panel launchers are broken to gain root access. I installed gksu and it works but that's not a "final" solution, I think. | 16:05 |
golinux | LeePen and I have had some discussion about this but I have seen no action to correct it on any front. | 16:06 |
KatolaZ | golinux: please read above | 16:08 |
KatolaZ | none of the launcher which is using polkit will work on beowulf until there is a Devuan version of polkit in Beowulf | 16:08 |
golinux | I have read it and this is the first time (that I can remember) that I heard there is no policykit in beowulf. | 16:09 |
golinux | I'm just trying to get a functional workflow so I can do the theming. | 16:10 |
golinux | There's no need to be pissy about it | 16:11 |
KatolaZ | where am I being pissy? o_O | 16:12 |
golinux | I am seeing RED | 16:12 |
KatolaZ | o_O | 16:13 |
golinux | Anyway . . . I guess I'll stick with gksu until it gets sorted. | 16:13 |
KatolaZ | maybe you should remove your red glasses :) | 16:14 |
golinux | I would Love for that to be a long-term solution. | 16:14 |
golinux | It's xchat doing it's thing when you call me. | 16:14 |
KatolaZ | o_O | 16:15 |
KatolaZ | golinux: gksu does not exist any more in debian | 16:15 |
golinux | I installed it from ascii. | 16:16 |
golinux | It complians but gets the job done. | 16:16 |
golinux | It leaves notes in the term and .xsession-errors | 16:17 |
* golinux loves gksu. | 16:17 | |
golinux | It's unsettling that no one seems interested in fixing the missing policykit problem | 16:18 |
KatolaZ | golinux: there are people working on it | 16:19 |
KatolaZ | if you want to help, you are welcome | 16:19 |
KatolaZ | :) | 16:20 |
golinux | If I could, I would be all over it . . . | 16:22 |
golinux | But you know that . . . | 16:22 |
golinux | Maybe we can just keep gksu in beowulf? Problem solved . . . | 16:23 |
KatolaZ | no | 16:23 |
KatolaZ | that's not solving any problem | 16:23 |
golinux | It solves MY problem. | 16:24 |
KatolaZ | (apart from the fact that gksu has a deadly bug that has never being fixed) | 16:24 |
KatolaZ | great | 16:24 |
KatolaZ | then YOU can get the gksu package where you want | 16:24 |
KatolaZ | :) | 16:24 |
golinux | deadly bug? | 16:24 |
KatolaZ | we don't need polkit for gksu | 16:24 |
golinux | I know that | 16:25 |
KatolaZ | https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-2886 | 16:25 |
golinux | Thanks | 16:25 |
KatolaZ | we need polkit for anything that would otherwise require root access | 16:25 |
KatolaZ | including mounting disks | 16:25 |
KatolaZ | configuring network | 16:25 |
KatolaZ | and so on | 16:25 |
KatolaZ | all the "desktopy" things :) | 16:25 |
golinux | BTW not "deadly" - characterized as a (Minor issue) | 16:30 |
KatolaZ | it allows arbitrary code execution... | 16:36 |
Centurion_Dan | KatolaZ: o/ | 20:18 |
Centurion_Dan | so whats this deal with polkit systemd bug?? | 20:18 |
Centurion_Dan | KatolaZ, I'm trying to fix debian-installer grub so that it provides both ia32 and x86_64 efi support for the amd64 mini-iso. This is because there are some systems mostly intel baytrail based systems that will only support 32bit efi booting whilst having a 64bit enabled proc. | 20:22 |
LeePen | golinux: I have a working installation of policykit on beowulf using the 0.105-18+devuan2.3 packages from experimental. I know that isn't a permanent solution and I am happy to work on a better solution this week, but if you need it to work now, that seems to do it for me. HTH | 20:56 |
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