libera/#devuan-dev/ Friday, 2019-03-08

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Centurion_DanKatolaZ, ppc64el builds should be much faster now that I have a local mirror.  Sure makes a difference for me ;-)11:40
evilham\o11:40
Centurion_Dan\o/11:40
Centurion_Danevilham :-)11:40
Centurion_Danbeen a while!11:40
KatolaZgood Centurion_Dan :)11:58
LeePenHi all.15:29
LeePenI am trying to tease out the slim/lightdm/consolekit/elogind thread from dng yesterday.15:30
LeePenAs far as /var/log/lastlog not being updated goes, I can't find a regression in that15:31
LeePenI don't think much other than login(1) and ssh actually update it.15:31
LeePenI certainly can't find that slim/lightdm/consolekit/elogind have ever touched it in the past.15:32
LeePenAre we happy to leave it that way?15:32
LeePenSysadmins can always change the behaviour by adding pam_lastlog.so to the PAM config.15:34
KatolaZLeePen: would this mean that if users always login through a login manager, the logins will never appear in wtmp?15:35
KatolaZI can't believe that is the case15:35
LeePenNo, I am just talking about lastlog. There were 2 separate things. See #301 and #30215:36
KatolaZoh ok sorry!15:37
KatolaZbut still15:37
LeePenThere is an (long-standing?) issue with slim and wtmp that I am still trying to understand fully.15:37
KatolaZok15:37
LeePenI have never taken much notice of lastlog :/15:37
LeePenReading about it, it seems to be for login(1) rather than logins?15:38
LeePenOr am I missing something?15:38
KatolaZI think lastlog/wtmp should be updated by login managers15:39
KatolaZthrough login15:39
KatolaZbut I haven't put much attention on that TBH15:39
LeePenNo, nor me, that is why I am trying to understand it ;)15:41
LeePenSo which login manager do you mean there? elogind/consolekit? slim/lightdm?15:42
LeePenNone of them use login(1) itself15:42
KatolaZthey should use pam_login I guess15:42
LeePenDo you mean /etc/pam.d/login?15:46
rrqpam_lastlog seems to be the only pam module with wtmp in it22:11
parazydfsmithred: ping22:36
parazydfsmithred: emailed you22:39
fsmithredparazyd, thanks. I'll try it.23:24
fsmithredhey, nobody noticed since last June that the i386 desktop-live does not have the pae kernel.23:24
fsmithrednobody includes me23:24
rrqexcludes?23:25
fsmithredI only noticed it because I was trying to make a beowulf i386 iso, and it failed because it couldn't find linux-image-58623:25
fsmithredno excludes that I know of - I'm building with live-sdk23:26
fsmithredthe relevant code is line 30 of libs/libdevuansdk/zlibs/kernel23:26
fsmithrednot sure how it got the 686 instead of the 58623:28

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