| KatolaZ | rrq: yes, I know | 06:03 |
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| KatolaZ | LeePen: you here? | 06:23 |
| KatolaZ | Centurion_Dan: you here? | 06:38 |
| Centurion_Dan | yeah... lurking ;-) | 06:39 |
| KatolaZ | :) | 06:39 |
| KatolaZ | I am about to update debootstrap in unstable and beowulf | 06:39 |
| KatolaZ | I am going to put merged-usr by default at no | 06:40 |
| KatolaZ | is that OK? | 06:40 |
| KatolaZ | (I guess so, but it's better to double-check) | 06:41 |
| KatolaZ | this way we don't need the knob in d-i | 06:41 |
| KatolaZ | we migth still leave it in expert mode, as an additional component | 06:42 |
| KatolaZ | I would instead move choose-init to a standard component in expert-install (i.e., no need to load it) | 06:42 |
| Centurion_Dan | yes, that sounds really good. You have my blessing ;-) | 06:45 |
| KatolaZ | :) | 06:45 |
| KatolaZ | thx | 06:45 |
| LeePen | KatolaZ: Hi. You wanted me? | 15:09 |
| KatolaZ | hi LeePen | 15:09 |
| KatolaZ | o/ | 15:09 |
| KatolaZ | I posted some comments here on the polkit upgrade | 15:09 |
| KatolaZ | dunno if you saw them | 15:09 |
| LeePen | I'll have a look back. | 15:10 |
| KatolaZ | ok | 15:11 |
| KatolaZ | basically | 15:11 |
| KatolaZ | then backported packages should have a +devuan0 suffix | 15:11 |
| KatolaZ | to allow for smooth upgrades | 15:11 |
| KatolaZ | because they have the same debian-version as the package in beowulf | 15:12 |
| KatolaZ | LeePen: it's like with backported kernels | 15:13 |
| KatolaZ | look at their version number | 15:13 |
| KatolaZ | that's the best example I guess | 15:13 |
| LeePen | OK, when we discussed it before we went for 0.105-25+devuan1~bpo2+1 but you want 0.105-25+devuan0~bpo2+1? | 15:14 |
| KatolaZ | yes | 15:15 |
| KatolaZ | because this will be smaller than any +devuanX we might end up having in beowulf | 15:15 |
| KatolaZ | ;) | 15:15 |
| KatolaZ | so a dist-upgrade will work as expected | 15:15 |
| KatolaZ | technically, yours should be a backport | 15:15 |
| LeePen | Yes, I get your concern. | 15:15 |
| LeePen | I thought that ~ sorted that correctly, that is why you can use foo~rc1 which will upgrade to foo? | 15:16 |
| LeePen | I will have to find where I think that is documented. | 15:16 |
| KatolaZ | well, not if uou have a +devuanX with the same X | 15:17 |
| KatolaZ | because your version number will be longer | 15:17 |
| LeePen | OK. Leave it with me for a bit. | 15:18 |
| KatolaZ | oki | 15:18 |
| LeePen | KatolaZ: take a look at deb-version(5). Tilde has special sorting properties and sorts *before*. So 0.105-25+devuan1~bpo2+1 is before 0.105-25+devuan1. | 15:23 |
| LeePen | I think that is exactly the reason for using ~bpo in backport version numbers. | 15:24 |
| KatolaZ | LeePen: note that the debian revision in backported packages is -0 | 15:25 |
| KatolaZ | ... | 15:25 |
| KatolaZ | I know about the tilde sorting | 15:28 |
| KatolaZ | it's more a matter of style, and clearly indicating that anything with +devuan0 must be replaced upon a dist-upgrade | 15:29 |
| LeePen | OK. I'll change the version no in my tree. | 15:32 |
| LeePen | KatolaZ: I have done that and pushed to LeePen/polkit suites/ascii-security. | 15:47 |
| KatolaZ | ok LeePen | 15:47 |
| KatolaZ | you could have used the repo under devuan-packages | 15:47 |
| LeePen | I don't have access ;) | 15:54 |
| fsmithred | Seems like pinning is not working correctly: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=14943#p14943 | 16:35 |
| KatolaZ | fsmithred: ? | 16:36 |
| fsmithred | apt tells me candidate version is from ceres when ceres is pinned to 100 | 16:36 |
| fsmithred | along with beowulf and ascii-backports | 16:37 |
| fsmithred | when I change them all of them to 99, then bpo has the candidate | 16:37 |
| fsmithred | except apt-cache policy shows bpo priority is 100, not the 99 I set it to | 16:37 |
| fsmithred | when I drop them all to 50, ceres has the candidate | 16:38 |
| fsmithred | in all cases, the candidate should be the one in ascii main that's newer than the one that's installed | 16:38 |
| KatolaZ | fsmithred: please man apt_preferences | 16:39 |
| KatolaZ | backports is notautomatic | 16:39 |
| KatolaZ | and ButAumaticUpgrades | 16:39 |
| KatolaZ | so it gets default prio equal to 100 | 16:39 |
| KatolaZ | so if you have ceres at 100, it has the same prio as backports | 16:40 |
| KatolaZ | fsmithred: which package are you referring to then? | 16:49 |
| fsmithred | debootstrap | 16:52 |
| fsmithred | see the link I posted for output of apt-cache policy debootstrap | 16:52 |
| fsmithred | shouldn't apt offer the package from the repo that has priority of 500? | 16:53 |
| fsmithred | ok, man apt-preferences does have the answer to that question: "apt-get selects the version with the highest | 16:57 |
| fsmithred | priority for installation. " | 16:57 |
| KatolaZ | yep | 16:57 |
| fsmithred | So I guess apt is broken, because it's not doing that. | 16:57 |
| fsmithred | it should be offerning me the newer version in ascii | 16:58 |
| KatolaZ | is that an ascii or a beowulf? | 16:58 |
| fsmithred | ascii | 16:58 |
| KatolaZ | mmmhh | 16:59 |
| fsmithred | it wasn't doing this until recently. I noticed it yesterday. | 17:00 |
| KatolaZ | fsmithred: the version number is wrong | 17:00 |
| KatolaZ | it has a - | 17:00 |
| KatolaZ | instead than a + | 17:00 |
| KatolaZ | :) | 17:00 |
| KatolaZ | and - < + | 17:00 |
| KatolaZ | look at the ascii version :) | 17:00 |
| fsmithred | yeah | 17:01 |
| KatolaZ | fsmithred: "The absence of a debian-revision compares earlier than the presence of one | 17:04 |
| KatolaZ | (but note that the debian-revision is the least significant part of the version number). | 17:04 |
| KatolaZ | " | 17:04 |
| KatolaZ | (from man deb-version) | 17:04 |
| KatolaZ | fsmithred: replied on #devuan, sorry :\ | 17:16 |
| fsmithred | I haven't filed a bug report. You want one on debootstrap? | 17:20 |
| KatolaZ | uh? | 17:20 |
| fsmithred | what bug should I report? | 17:20 |
| KatolaZ | for the version number? | 17:20 |
| fsmithred | yeah | 17:20 |
| KatolaZ | oh no need | 17:20 |
| fsmithred | ok | 17:21 |
| KatolaZ | I will just bump version | 17:21 |
| KatolaZ | and we will have it as part of the point release | 17:21 |
| fsmithred | cool. I'll fix my post to explain it | 17:21 |
| fsmithred | :) | 17:21 |
| fsmithred | new installer is in ceres right now | 17:21 |
| fsmithred | I didn't put it in beo or ascii yet | 17:22 |
| KatolaZ | which installer? | 17:22 |
| fsmithred | refractainstaller with some fixes | 17:22 |
| fsmithred | well, fixes in the gui, just a couple of wording changes in -base | 17:22 |
| KatolaZ | fsmithred: do you want it to be included in the point-release? | 17:35 |
| KatolaZ | fsmithred: fixed debootstrap | 17:38 |
| KatolaZ | now I need to get something else done | 17:38 |
| KatolaZ | bbl | 17:38 |
| fsmithred | KatolaZ, yes the new installer should be in the point release | 17:54 |
| fsmithred | I was planning to put it in beowulf and ascii later today. | 17:54 |
| KatolaZ | is that the same version you have in unstable? | 17:55 |
| fsmithred | yes | 17:56 |
| fsmithred | built it yesterday | 17:56 |
| KatolaZ | will it work on ascii unmodified? | 17:56 |
| fsmithred | yes | 17:56 |
| fsmithred | would probably still work on wheezy | 17:56 |
| KatolaZ | 9.5.3? | 17:56 |
| fsmithred | yes | 17:56 |
| KatolaZ | refractainstaller-gui? | 17:56 |
| fsmithred | both gui and base | 17:56 |
| KatolaZ | ok I will move them in dak | 17:56 |
| KatolaZ | no need to rebuild them | 17:57 |
| fsmithred | cool, thanks | 17:57 |
| KatolaZ | fsmithred: moved to beowulf | 17:58 |
| KatolaZ | are you sure deps are satisfied in ascii as well? | 17:58 |
| fsmithred | yeah, the only deps I've changed in past year are to remove some Recommends | 17:59 |
| fsmithred | and I've installed and used it in ascii | 17:59 |
| KatolaZ | ok | 17:59 |
| KatolaZ | moving it to ascii as well then | 18:00 |
| fsmithred | I tested it in desktop-live iso I built yesterday | 18:00 |
| KatolaZ | yeah but wait before building the final isos | 18:01 |
| fsmithred | yes | 18:01 |
| fsmithred | was just practicing | 18:01 |
| KatolaZ | 'cause we have the new policykit as well | 18:01 |
| KatolaZ | by LeePen | 18:01 |
| fsmithred | I always assume that it won't be right on the first few builds for whatever reason | 18:01 |
| KatolaZ | fsmithred: ascii, beowulf, and unstable have now the same version | 18:01 |
| fsmithred | cool | 18:02 |
| KatolaZ | just wait for them ti hit pkgmaster | 18:02 |
| fsmithred | ok, I have to do an online course today and tomorrow, so I won't be doing much else | 18:02 |
| fsmithred | tomorrow might be good day to build isos - next day I'll be traveling | 18:03 |
| fsmithred | day after that I'll be home | 18:03 |
| KatolaZ | ok | 18:03 |
| KatolaZ | I will have another minimal-live build tonight I guess | 18:03 |
| KatolaZ | and will try to get the new polkit sorted out | 18:03 |
| fsmithred | a final one? | 18:04 |
| fsmithred | oh | 18:04 |
| KatolaZ | dunno | 18:04 |
| fsmithred | ok | 18:04 |
| KatolaZ | :D | 18:04 |
| KatolaZ | we need release notes I guess? | 18:04 |
| fsmithred | yeah, some edits to the old ones | 18:04 |
| fsmithred | probably don't need a lot | 18:04 |
| KatolaZ | yep | 18:04 |
| KatolaZ | ok | 18:04 |
| KatolaZ | have a nice one then | 18:05 |
| KatolaZ | o/ | 18:05 |
| fsmithred | see ya | 18:05 |
| KatolaZ | LeePen: will review polkit later ok? | 18:06 |
| KatolaZ | will ping you later | 18:06 |
| KatolaZ | o/ | 18:06 |
| LeePen | KatolaZ: fine. Thanks. Bye! | 18:07 |
| golinux | I finally upgraded the beowulf VM then did a search for libsystemd0. Only found 4 mentions of it in /var/cache/apt/archives/ ! | 20:41 |
| golinux | Well done LeePen and all! I'll go delete those entries now. :D | 20:41 |
| golinux | Centurion_Dan: About to send the Clearlooks-Phenix-Cinnabar theme to you. | 22:22 |
| golinux | Sorry it took a bit longer than expected. I have a few notes . . . | 22:23 |
| golinux | I will include a file that overrides the disappearing scrollbar. 52gtk3-nooverlayscrollbar-nocsd | 22:24 |
| golinux | fsmithred knows how to fit it in wherever it goes. | 22:25 |
| golinux | And I'll also include a swoosh icon for the application panel. | 22:25 |
| golinux | The only onther thing that I have no idea how to fix is that the cinnabar theme isn't carrying over to graphical root apps like synaptic. It's defaulting to Clearlooks which is eye-shattering | 22:27 |
| golinux | blue | 22:28 |
| golinux | Looks terrible. It worked properly in jessie and ascii. Probably has to do with permissions needing some I leave that to you to sort out.sort of linkage that allows it. | 22:29 |
| golinux | Would be nice to get everything into -proposed (or wherever) so folks can test it so we can maybe have a beta by the conf. | 22:30 |
| golinux | Note that I have not yet done the openbox theme and probably won't have the time until I get back from AMS. | 22:33 |
| golinux | So it's still DarkPurpy | 22:34 |
| fsmithred | the scrollbar fix goes in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ | 22:48 |
| golinux | fsmithred: I just sent all the files to Dan. | 23:10 |
| golinux | Do you want them also? | 23:10 |
| fsmithred | yes | 23:12 |
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