furrymcgee | appreciate algosov initiative, thanks | 10:12 |
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Centurion_Dan | Y_Plentyn: Evilham: I've been looking hard and lsb-base and I can't see why we continue to fork it. I think we should drop the fork and rely on Debians package. Can anybody running beowulf confirm that lsb-release -a provides correct output?? | 13:45 |
Evilham | Centurino_Dan: things break if they think they run on Debian, that's why lsb is forked | 15:14 |
Evilham | Centurion_Dan | 15:14 |
Evilham | e.g. ansible, maybe even unatended-upgrades, etc etc | 15:15 |
Evilham | there is a long list. That being said: I haven't really taken a look at the latest version | 15:15 |
Evilham | but it is likely to be reporting "this is Debian buster", which can end up with weird behaviours | 15:15 |
Evilham | In any case: the current state, where ceres' version is older than beowulf's is just plain wrong | 15:21 |
Evilham | since it's the unstable version, if you want to fix something lsb-release related, the low hanging fruit is to get ceres' version to be the same as beowulf's | 15:22 |
Evilham | that should fix quite a few issues other people have been having while testing our unstable | 15:22 |
KatolaZ | Evilham: the current state is due to the fact that there is no version built for beowulf | 15:24 |
KatolaZ | since it should be first built for ceres | 15:25 |
Evilham | I am aware of no version being built for beowulf, but actually: right now we are pushing on beowulf debian's version | 15:25 |
Evilham | unmodified | 15:25 |
Evilham | so, I'd argue here consistency would be better (and also: my systems report properly to lsb_release -a, but maybe that's because of one of the many things I do on top of them, so it should be tested with an empty VM) | 15:26 |
Evilham | ^^^^ under beowulf, that is | 15:27 |
Centurion_Dan | I've taken a hard look at the code and for what little is left of the lsb source package, it appears that lsb-release -a should report devuan information correctly with debians package. I just wanted to save myself having to spin a vm just to verify... although I guess it's one way to actually test libvirt stuff on my Talos whIch I haven't done yet ;-) | 15:42 |
Evilham | Centurion_Dan: it appears to be working well-enough so far, I'd really suggest getting rid of the forked version on ceres to begin with | 15:44 |
Evilham | it's breaking very weird things and otoh beowulf having debian's version hasn't shown to break anything obvious (which was the case with jessie and ascii) | 15:44 |
fsmithred | my beowulf lsb_release -a reports devuan (it's a non-devuanized lsb-base) | 15:48 |
fsmithred | same output as xinomilo reported in #devuan | 15:48 |
Evilham | :-D precisely my point | 15:48 |
Centurion_Dan | cool lets remove the forked package from ceres. | 15:49 |
fsmithred | yay, less work for us | 15:49 |
Centurion_Dan | I've just tested her on my ceres ppc64el talosII | 15:49 |
Centurion_Dan | ok lsb packages have been removed from ceres too, so in a few minutes we should see ceres get the new versions. | 15:58 |
Centurion_Dan | from debian. | 15:58 |
Evilham | when amprolla runs again, great | 15:58 |
Evilham | that should fi a few things | 15:58 |
Centurion_Dan | Any breakages let me know ;-) | 15:58 |
fsmithred | I watched the video of my presentation today. At the time, I didn't know that someone was asking a question in irc. (Kaptain Ufolog) | 18:33 |
fsmithred | now I'd like to answer him. Where can I do that? | 18:33 |
obeardly | You're just going to have to find Kaptain Ufolog in their respective IRC channels. | 18:59 |
obeardly | Do you know what channel the question was asked in? | 19:00 |
fsmithred | no, I don't | 19:00 |
fsmithred | whatever we were monitoring during the talks | 19:00 |
fsmithred | trascript is posted on the youtube page | 19:00 |
LeePen | Centurion_Dan: the lsb packages in ceres still seem to be [ceres] lsb-base-4.1+devuan2. Should amprolla have updated by now? | 19:29 |
Centurion_Dan | LeePen: indeed it should have... I don't understand why. I've asked parazyd to look into it but had no response yet... | 21:47 |
Centurion_Dan | it appears updates aren't propogating onto pkgmaster infact it appears that unstable hasn't updated in about 2 weeks... | 21:49 |
Centurion_Dan | but dak is up to date and rsyncing. | 22:24 |
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