libera/#devuan-dev/ Saturday, 2019-09-21

LeePenMorning12:06
LeePenJust realised I was offline for a few days. Have I missed anything?12:09
Evilhamnot much12:09
Evilhamyou can check the logs if you want, but most interesting things are on the ML12:09
LeePenOK. I am just about to revert  https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/policykit-1/commit/5ad9b8d2e83c77a2293438d64f265d1fc25ebb71 for a new build of policykit. It was the wrong place to try to achieve this.12:10
EvilhamI for one fully trust your judgement on those bits :-D12:13
LeePenFlattering but unwise! :)12:13
LeePenBeen tied up with the debian/elogind churning.12:14
LeePenThanks for your input12:14
Evilhamhey, I'm young, I'm supposed to get wiser with time :-p12:18
gnu_srs1LeePen: When I created the transitional policykit packages for ASCII two of them was not possible to remove due to that. Maybe you can correct them for ASCII?12:18
gnu_srs1That would probably simplify upgrades to beowulf etc.12:19
LeePengnu_srs1: I have already removed the ascii specific transitional packages.12:19
gnu_srs1Nevertheless: The Debian merge should be source based, not package based.12:20
LeePenYes, but as it isn't we need to keep the packages to directly oppose the debian ones.12:21
gnu_srs1Maybe you can bring this up on the next meeting?12:21
LeePenYes, although I won't be offereing to delve into amprolla to fix it at the moment! ;)12:22
gnu_srs1To make it a TODO issue.12:22
Evilhamon that note, would you mind reviewing the amprolla changes I posted on the ML?12:25
Evilhamsince it's an important bit of software, I'm more comfortable with changes being reviewed and approved rather than just pushed12:25
Evilhammentioning because that'd also be where the logic changes have to happen IIRC12:26
LeePenEvilham: Cetainly.12:31
mtnmanhelo15:56
amesserhi16:07
golinuxHere's the proposed new "release" page for the website: https://devuan.org/os/releases18:06
golinuxI rearranged the order of the information to put a focus on the codename instead of the suite for reasons of which you all are well aware.18:09
golinuxCurrent page is here for comparison: https://devuan.org/os/releases18:09
golinuxComments welcomed.18:10
golinuxOh boy . . . didn't proofread.  Here's where the new version lives: https://pad.dyne.org/code/#/2/code/edit/cF7Wk0uUj1xdheWqEksTBiSV/18:11
golinuxSorry for that . . . the clipboard sometimes does strange things.18:12
golinuxPlease have a look18:13
yetithere is ceres and Ceres and sid and Sid in the text. The others are Capsed consequently...18:23
yetisame mischmasch for stable/etsting/unstable18:25
golinuxyeti: iirc the Suite18:39
golinux's name is capped but in sources.list is lower case.  So I guess the difference is whether it refers to naming or function.18:41
fsmithredyeah, I'm pretty sure Debian uses caps when talking about them, lower case when using them.18:41
golinuxhellekin originally put that page together.18:41
golinuxSo I just followed his lead18:41
yetiok18:45
amesser_wtf19:37
amesser_lvm2 depends on libsystemd?19:37
masonremember that libsystemd is misnamed19:54
amesser_?19:56
masonamesser_: It's a general utility library as I understand it.19:58
amesser_lol, no its a plague ;-)19:59
amesser_actually lvm2 is a system level tool need to administer logical volumes. I dont seen why it has to depend on libsystemd. It worked before without20:00
amesser_I'm currently trying hard to boil down an initrd and came across that libelogind/libsystemd was part of it, wondering why20:01
masonlibsystemd is a general-purpose utility library, I meant20:02
amesser_hmm no, its actually the core of the systemd init program and pulls in all its crap20:05
masonWell. As you wish.20:06
masonamesser_: You figure it out yet?20:24
amesser_what do you mean?20:25
masonamesser_: You were wondering why lvm2 wanted the libsystemd utility library.20:25
amesser_no, not yet. I was just wondering about it20:26
masonIf you grab the source, you'll see a bunch of fairly straightforward options in configure.in. Looks like it ought to be possible to disable it without detriment. Looks like a bunch of service notifiers using the libsystemd dbus interface, at first glance.20:27
amesser_currently i'm struggeling with nfsv4 mount20:27
masonamesser_: How so?20:27
amesser_root@zeus:/# mount -v -t nfs4 -o nfsvers=4 192.168.180.149:/ /mnt20:27
amesser_mount.nfs4: timeout set for Sat Sep 21 20:28:35 201920:27
amesser_mount.nfs4: trying text-based options 'vers=4,addr=192.168.180.149,clientaddr=192.168.180.20'20:27
amesser_mount.nfs4: mount(2): Protocol not supported20:27
amesser_mount.nfs4: Protocol not supported20:27
masonHm. I don't nail down the version here and I get whatever the server offers by default.20:28
masonSo, 4.2 for Linux NFS servers, 4.1 IIRC for FreeBSD.20:28
amesser_hmm, same without vers=420:29
masonamesser_: What nfs packages do you have installed? And is this on ASCII?20:29
amesser_no, its beowulf20:29
amesser_and on the nas its my owne kernel20:30
amesser_i think nfsv4 ismissing there20:30
amesser_ah yes, thats the reason20:31
amesser_i missed to compile in nfsv4 support, haha20:31
masonThat'll do it then. Good catch.20:31
masonlunchtime here - bbiab20:32
masonAnd back.21:17
gnu_srs1Hi, is there a need to upgrade eudev for beowulf? I thought about packaging it for Debian!23:47

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