plasma41 | This week's notes have now been sent to the mailing list | 06:05 |
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mason | plasma41: Thank you. Just read them. | 06:19 |
Evilham | FWI, DNS is messed up | 10:46 |
Evilham | host -t MX devuan.org | 10:46 |
Evilham | devuan.org mail is handled by 10 mx.devuan.org.devuan.org. | 10:46 |
jaromil | ACK. its a wrong setting following the migration | 11:45 |
jaromil | rrq: when you can, set MX to mail.dyne.org | 11:45 |
jaromil | thanks! | 11:46 |
rrq | jaromi:: .. missing dot added :) | 12:30 |
rrq | jaromil: .. missing dot added | 12:30 |
onefang | And a bunch of extra dots added here to. B-) | 12:31 |
jaromil | ack was just the dot indeed | 13:39 |
jaromil | not sure why was stripped, perhaps other entries may have the same problem | 13:39 |
jaromil | ok cool | 13:39 |
LeePen | jaromil: Hi. I see from the meet notes you are going to take a look at the build hosts. | 18:36 |
LeePen | Can you let me know when you have done it, and I will retry some of the failed builds. Thanks | 18:37 |
golinux | I'm sure that the joyous shouts from devs will reach your ears. | 18:40 |
LeePen | :) | 18:40 |
LeePen | golinux: I know you are waiting for me to write the release notes *kit stuff. | 18:41 |
LeePen | Until it is all built, in place and tested, I am holding off. | 18:41 |
LeePen | I hope that is OK? | 18:41 |
fsmithred | yeah, we're doing ascii point-release before beowulf | 18:42 |
LeePen | Great. Thanks. | 18:42 |
golinux | No worries LeePen | 18:42 |
mason | fsmithred: Does persistence have to be handled in a separate partition with refracta? Can I say "sync to what you booted from" or the moral equivalent? | 18:56 |
mason | fsmithred: Most direct path seems to be writing out a new image, but I want to be aware of the possibilities. | 18:56 |
golinux | LeePen: OT . . . I got and email this morning from a friend visiting the Edinburgh National Museum | 18:57 |
golinux | :) | 18:57 |
golinux | mason: You can make changes and then take a snapshot with those changes. | 18:58 |
golinux | afaik, a separate partition is needed for persistence | 18:58 |
mason | golinux: Right, but can I have the changes go back to the initial media without writing out a new ISO? http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=91849 notes this kind of thing, but doesn't specifically talk about refracta. | 18:59 |
mason | The separate partition makes me wonder if it can run a new kernel that way. I imagine the ISO will do that. | 18:59 |
golinux | https://refracta.org/docs/readme.refracta2usb.txt lots of notes in there | 18:59 |
mason | ah, ty, was looking and I didn't find that | 19:00 |
* golinux goes back to tea | 19:00 | |
mason | I've got my ZFS installer in workable shape and I want to make a boot stick with the right pieces. | 19:00 |
fsmithred | mason, with regular persistence you need a separate partition or a loopback file on a separate partition | 19:11 |
fsmithred | but it's also possible to put the loopback file on the first partition, if you modify the initrd | 19:11 |
mason | fsmithred: Hrm, I tried to do a vanilla snapshot and it was angry with me. | 19:11 |
fsmithred | refracta2usb has tools to do this | 19:11 |
fsmithred | what did it tell you? | 19:11 |
mason | I'll have to read about it more. For now I'm whipping up another installer system on a USB drive. | 19:12 |
mason | fsmithred: Um, couldn't find an initrd, warned me I was root. | 19:12 |
fsmithred | what were you doing? | 19:12 |
mason | fsmithred: Booted, ran "apt update", installed a few packages, ran the snapshotter. | 19:13 |
fsmithred | ok, if you don't have /initrd.img you need to specify the name/location in the config file | 19:13 |
fsmithred | same for the kernel | 19:13 |
mason | fsmithred: I was thinking it was providing that. | 19:13 |
fsmithred | it expects /vmlinuz | 19:14 |
fsmithred | so you can either edit the config file or make the symlinks yourself | 19:14 |
mason | fsmithred: My seemingly incorrect understanding was that it'd take the running system, including all the giblets to boot, and it'd make a new ISO with the original stuff + changes. | 19:14 |
fsmithred | yup. That's what it does. | 19:15 |
mason | ...but I need to tell it where it's shipped things...? | 19:15 |
fsmithred | if you don't have the default symlinks for kernel and initrd, you need to tell it what's going on | 19:15 |
mason | Alright. Fair enough. | 19:16 |
fsmithred | snapshot uses rsync to copy /vmlinuz and /initrd into the isolinux directory in the iso | 19:16 |
fsmithred | no | 19:16 |
fsmithred | into the live directory | 19:16 |
mason | Oh... Oh, does this just present me with a big initramfs, and I'm running out of that? | 19:17 |
fsmithred | huh? | 19:17 |
fsmithred | what is your initramfs called? | 19:17 |
fsmithred | full path please | 19:17 |
mason | Is this based on the notion of booting an isolinux install, which has one or more overlayable initramfs files? | 19:17 |
mason | Dunno, I've booted back into the installer to make an install image. | 19:17 |
fsmithred | no, it just needs to know where your initramfs is so it can copy it | 19:18 |
mason | Slackware used isolinux stuff, and that's how I ended up doing the ZFS installer there. It was a pleasant environment. | 19:18 |
fsmithred | read the config file. Lots of informative comments in it. | 19:19 |
mason | Mm, I will. | 19:19 |
fsmithred | options you may or may not want | 19:19 |
gnu_srs2 | golinux: I've recently installed beowulf mate and xfce4 in a VM. Nice graphics you have created, thanks :) | 23:56 |
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