libera/#devuan-dev/ Thursday, 2019-10-10

plasma41This week's notes have now been sent to the mailing list06:05
masonplasma41: Thank you. Just read them.06:19
EvilhamFWI, DNS is messed up10:46
Evilhamhost -t MX devuan.org10:46
Evilhamdevuan.org mail is handled by 10 mx.devuan.org.devuan.org.10:46
jaromilACK. its a wrong setting following the migration11:45
jaromilrrq: when you can, set MX to mail.dyne.org11:45
jaromilthanks!11:46
rrqjaromi:: .. missing dot added :)12:30
rrqjaromil: .. missing dot added12:30
onefangAnd a bunch of extra dots added here to.  B-)12:31
jaromilack was just the dot indeed13:39
jaromilnot sure why was stripped, perhaps other entries may have the same problem13:39
jaromilok cool13:39
LeePenjaromil: Hi. I see from the meet notes you are going to take a look at the build hosts.18:36
LeePenCan you let me know when you have done it, and I will retry some of the failed builds. Thanks18:37
golinuxI'm sure that the joyous shouts from devs will reach your ears.18:40
LeePen:)18:40
LeePengolinux: I know you are waiting for me to write the release notes *kit stuff.18:41
LeePenUntil it is all built, in place and tested, I am holding off.18:41
LeePenI hope that is OK?18:41
fsmithredyeah, we're doing ascii point-release before beowulf18:42
LeePenGreat. Thanks.18:42
golinuxNo worries LeePen18:42
masonfsmithred: Does persistence have to be handled in a separate partition with refracta? Can I say "sync to what you booted from" or the moral equivalent?18:56
masonfsmithred: Most direct path seems to be writing out a new image, but I want to be aware of the possibilities.18:56
golinuxLeePen: OT . . . I got and email this morning from a friend visiting the Edinburgh National Museum18:57
golinux:)18:57
golinuxmason: You can make changes and then take a snapshot with those changes.18:58
golinuxafaik, a separate partition is needed for persistence18:58
masongolinux: Right, but can I have the changes go back to the initial media without writing out a new ISO? http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=91849 notes this kind of thing, but doesn't specifically talk about refracta.18:59
masonThe separate partition makes me wonder if it can run a new kernel that way. I imagine the ISO will do that.18:59
golinuxhttps://refracta.org/docs/readme.refracta2usb.txt  lots of notes in there18:59
masonah, ty, was looking and I didn't find that19:00
* golinux goes back to tea19:00
masonI've got my ZFS installer in workable shape and I want to make a boot stick with the right pieces.19:00
fsmithredmason, with regular persistence you need a separate partition or a loopback file on a separate partition19:11
fsmithredbut it's also possible to put the loopback file on the first partition, if you modify the initrd19:11
masonfsmithred: Hrm, I tried to do a vanilla snapshot and it was angry with me.19:11
fsmithredrefracta2usb has tools to do this19:11
fsmithredwhat did it tell you?19:11
masonI'll have to read about it more. For now I'm whipping up another installer system on a USB drive.19:12
masonfsmithred: Um, couldn't find an initrd, warned me I was root.19:12
fsmithredwhat were you doing?19:12
masonfsmithred: Booted, ran "apt update", installed a few packages, ran the snapshotter.19:13
fsmithredok, if you don't have /initrd.img you need to specify the name/location in the config file19:13
fsmithredsame for the kernel19:13
masonfsmithred: I was thinking it was providing that.19:13
fsmithredit expects /vmlinuz19:14
fsmithredso you can either edit the config file or make the symlinks yourself19:14
masonfsmithred: My seemingly incorrect understanding was that it'd take the running system, including all the giblets to boot, and it'd make a new ISO with the original stuff + changes.19:14
fsmithredyup. That's what it does.19:15
mason...but I need to tell it where it's shipped things...?19:15
fsmithredif you don't have the default symlinks for kernel and initrd, you need to tell it what's going on19:15
masonAlright. Fair enough.19:16
fsmithredsnapshot uses rsync to copy /vmlinuz and /initrd into the isolinux directory in the iso19:16
fsmithredno19:16
fsmithredinto the live directory19:16
masonOh... Oh, does this just present me with a big initramfs, and I'm running out of that?19:17
fsmithredhuh?19:17
fsmithredwhat is your initramfs called?19:17
fsmithredfull path please19:17
masonIs this based on the notion of booting an isolinux install, which has one or more overlayable initramfs files?19:17
masonDunno, I've booted back into the installer to make an install image.19:17
fsmithredno, it just needs to know where your initramfs is so it can copy it19:18
masonSlackware used isolinux stuff, and that's how I ended up doing the ZFS installer there. It was a pleasant environment.19:18
fsmithredread the config file. Lots of informative comments in it.19:19
masonMm, I will.19:19
fsmithredoptions you may or may not want19:19
gnu_srs2golinux: I've recently installed beowulf mate and xfce4 in a VM. Nice graphics you have created, thanks :)23:56

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