libera/#devuan-dev/ Friday, 2019-10-18

Centurion_Danrrq: o/09:41
rrqhi09:54
rrqCenturion_Dan: ^^^10:00
Centurion_Danrrq: oops, sorry, stepped away from the computer for a bit to ice our christmas cake from last christmas :-]10:28
rrqYEY util-linux:i386 built (!) for unstable10:29
LeePenCenturion_Dan: Hi. We still have one (iced) from 3 years ago waiting to be cut!10:29
Centurion_DanLeePen: I hope it was well dowsed with alcohol...10:30
LeePenI also apply that at the moment of consumption!10:31
Centurion_Dan:-)10:31
LeePenrrq: Great. What did you do to fix it? Have the build hosts been updated?10:31
rrqI think Dan at least upgraded the kernel... maybe more(?)10:32
Centurion_DanI wish....  my wife is still sans alcohol and gets jealous if I have some while she can't due to breast feeding...10:32
LeePenI am sure you are being supportive ;)10:33
LeePenrrq: great. I will have a go at building my backlog of packages.10:33
rrqnope arm64 still runs out of memory10:35
rrqonly the i386 is "fixed"10:35
LeePen:(10:36
LeePenCenturion_Dan: any idea what is going on with arm64 running out of memory?10:37
Centurion_Danjust looking at that.... the flags on dpkg-deb are -z6 -Zxz -Sextreme10:37
Centurion_Danperhaps the -Sextreme is pushing lzma over the top....10:38
rrqis jenkins-glue ?10:40
Centurion_Dannah, lack of memory... It's only got 8G and 7G is allocated to other vm10:46
Centurion_Danso there is less then 1G for the host including arm64 builds.10:47
rrqno swap on the arm64 ?10:48
Centurion_Danparazyd or maybe alv will need to take a look at that ^^.  Might want to prod jaromil too.10:49
Centurion_Danno swap is setup.10:49
rrqI suppose you can't give it a swap-on-file10:50
Centurion_Danrrq: trying... but it fails.... btrfs means fallocate fails to actually physically allocate space....11:19
Centurion_Daneven dd isn't good enough... swapfile fails to mount because of holes....11:22
rrqcan we run an emulated arm64 elsewhere?11:26
Centurion_Danshort answer is .... no, can't make swap....11:27
Centurion_Danrrq: I could probably run it on my talosII...11:27
Centurion_DanOr I could find a disk and figure out how to actually make my expressobin run devuan.11:28
Centurion_DanI have 3 of those...11:28
onefangOr give it twice as much RAM?11:28
Centurion_DanMost of the ram is allocated to other vm's .... I think parazyd needs to take a look at it....11:29
onefangAh, out of your control then.11:29
Centurion_Danyup... and because of btrfs and kernel < 5.x we can't create an unholy swap file...11:30
onefangI have a VM I use for building a large project, I give it 2GB.  I know there are larger projects.11:30
rrqhow about swapping over nfs then ? ( :))11:32
Centurion_Danto what??  one of the vm's it hosts??11:36
rrqwell, as near as possible I suppose11:37
Centurion_Danchances are that will also use btrfs...11:45
rrqif there's disk space available, you could create a 2G image file, format as ext2 and mount, then make a swap in that .. ?11:47
rrq(btrfs is one of ny white clouds)11:49
rrqmy11:50
onefangI think that was where the "image file has holes" issue came in.11:51
Centurion_DanI intensely dislike btrfs, because it is very systemd like...11:51
rrqyes but I'd expect the ext2 layer to deal with that11:51
rrqI always make my VM images starting with hole files .. though on top of ext4 of course11:53
Centurion_Danoh well... bed time...11:59
Centurion_Dan... hmm,11:59
Centurion_Dannetwork interface and MTA make boots really slow to start on beowulf.  Somebody mentioned a fix for the former... and we really need to get rid of default MTA out of the tasks12:01
Centurion_Dananyway, I'm off to bed.  Nighty nite!!12:04
JorilGoodnight!12:07
rrqLeePen: no cigar on the arm64 .. I'll see if I can make util-linux for beowulf on amd64 and i386 at least ... might need a version bump12:22
LeePenrrq: Thanks. maybe parazyd can look at giving it more memory?12:24
LeePenI had success using my ~beowulf1 version scheme.12:25
rrqyes, would be good. .. util-linux currently has 2.33.1-0.1+devuan1 .. what would the bump be?12:26
rrqthat one is already on unstable12:27
LeePen2.33.1-0.1+devuan1~beowulf112:27
LeePenI know it is a bit long, but it means we keep beowulf less than ceres12:28
rrqok I'll use that12:28
LeePenDo we need somebody with physical access to the arm64 host?12:29
rrqaiui it's a VM, so it needs someone root on the hosting host12:30
rrqdon't think physical is needed really12:31
LeePenOK. So parazyd, jaromil or ...?12:32
rrqmaybe some more at Dyne.12:34
LeePenWhat's the best way of contacting them?12:42
rrqin theory they are lurking on irc, but nowadays probably email is best12:48
jaromildevuan-dev mailinglist, but we read12:48
rrq:)12:48
jaromilI am caught into full day meetings since 3 days now12:48
jaromilbut rest assured this is not taken care of12:48
jaromilACK on more RAM on the softiron armt64 host12:49
rrqLeePen: now gbp wants the "upstream tag" to be upstream/2.33.1-0.1+devuan1 (rather than upstream/2.33.1-0.1) Did you do something special for policykit-1 about that (in gbp.conf) ?12:54
rrq(or even upstream/2.33.1)12:54
jaromilsorry wording resta ssured I'm reading and following up12:57
LeePenrrq: No, I don't think I did anything else. It just worked.12:58
rrqbiab12:58
LeePenrrq: are you sure you did ~beowulfN not +beowulfN?12:59
LeePenjaromil: OK. Thanks.13:02
LeePenbiab13:16
rrqLeePen: thanks; a curly - isn't the same as a straight ~14:12
LeePenrrq: :) At least _that_ is working!14:47
masonJjp137: I just looked, and apache2 is still back one build. I was curious if you did any more digging to figure out why, or if there are any other security patches missing.19:55
Jjp137it's not a problem on packages.devuan.org, so maybe it's some weird amprolla thing? I remember this being an issue before19:56
Jjp137yeah it's very similar (if not exactly) to this: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/irclogs/freenode/_devuan/_devuan.2019-05-16.log.html#t2019-05-16T22:48:2520:00

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