| onefang | From the meeting notes - '(rrq) follow up about where/how "deb.roundr.devuan.org" is resolved.' What's the question? | 04:11 |
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| onefang | I use dig on deb.devuan.org, deb.roundr.devuan.org pops up as a CNAME, which then resolves to the IPs when I dig that. | 04:12 |
| onefang | The CNAME stuff is described on the web page. Do I need to add another entry to explanations.html? | 04:13 |
| fsmithred | I think the question was about the location of the server in control of this. | 04:15 |
| onefang | So that covers "how", "where" is line 173 of apt-panopticon.lua. | 04:15 |
| onefang | You meant the server that controls the DNS entries? | 04:15 |
| onefang | I have no idea. | 04:16 |
| fsmithred | jaromil would know | 04:36 |
| golinux | Evilham probably does also | 04:39 |
| rrq | onefang: yes, we have moved DNS for devuan.org to Devuan's infrastructure, but deb.roundr.devuan.org points to the old host, which provides the round-robin resolution to the mirrors. | 05:05 |
| rrq | someone, you and/or Evilham, are able to modify that resolution | 05:05 |
| onefang | I have no keys to that, so that might be Evilham. | 05:06 |
| rrq | I probably have been told about how/where at some time, and now that knowledge has left the building.. needs arefresh, and possibly that we move that function ont Devuan's infrastructure as well. | 05:06 |
| onefang | Sounds like a good idea to me. | 05:07 |
| onefang | The only keys I have are the one you gave me with that account on pkgmaster. So basically I can edit https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/mirror_list.txt, and not much else. | 05:07 |
| rrq | hmm maybe there's a "bot" somehere making good use of your efforts... | 05:08 |
| onefang | What do you mean? | 05:09 |
| rrq | I was thinking upside down I guess :) | 05:10 |
| onefang | Actually I meant I can edit the file that is used to generate https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/mirror_list.txt, and that file is also used to generate other things, though I don't think it is used to generate the DNS-RR IPs. | 05:10 |
| rrq | right; I though it might be for the RR... | 05:11 |
| rrq | so you can't "disable" a mirror then? | 05:12 |
| onefang | If you meant there should be a "bot" that does things like "mirror.devuan.de has been offline for two months' we should remove it", I think we need to establish some policy, and I' dagree. | 05:12 |
| onefang | I can remove a mirror from that list, but not from the RR. | 05:12 |
| onefang | At least I THINK that list has nothing to do with what goes in the RR. | 05:14 |
| fsmithred | anyone in here know or use kali? Or the tools that it contains? | 17:01 |
| fsmithred | Someone in #devuan pointed me to a python script that installs all the kali apps. | 17:02 |
| fsmithred | and, um, I've created a monster | 17:02 |
| fsmithred | kalified-frankenfracta | 17:02 |
| fsmithred | any use for such a thing, or should I kill it before it spreads? | 17:03 |
| gnu_srs | LeePen: I've now updated eudev to 3.2.9-1 for unstable. Can I push? | 17:29 |
| LeePen | Yes, if you are happy with it. We will build it for unstable initially. | 17:30 |
| gnu_srs | Another issue regarding upgrading to Beowulf xfce+slim: shutdown and reboot are greyed out. | 17:30 |
| gnu_srs | (not related to eudev) | 17:31 |
| LeePen | You must be missing something in the policykit elogind/consolekit stack. | 17:31 |
| LeePen | Did you have to start slim manually from the command line? | 17:32 |
| gnu_srs | No | 17:32 |
| LeePen | elogind or consolekit? | 17:32 |
| gnu_srs | slim 1.3.6-5.1+devuan5, gir1.2-polkit-1.0, libpolkit-agent-1-0, libpolkit-gobject-1-0, libpolkit-gobject-consolekit-1-0: 0.105-25+devuan8 | 17:34 |
| gnu_srs | no policykit | 17:35 |
| LeePen | So you need policykit-1 and either consolekit or libpam-elogind | 17:35 |
| fsmithred | and maybe policykit-1-gnome | 17:38 |
| fsmithred | libpolkit-backend-consolekit-1-0 | 17:39 |
| gnu_srs | I installed: libpolkit-backend-1-0 libpolkit-backend-consolekit-1-0 policykit-1 policykit-1-gnome, consolekit was already there: It works :) | 17:40 |
| LeePen | Great. | 17:40 |
| fsmithred | it gets really tricky if you try to install multiple desktop environments | 17:40 |
| gnu_srs | Strange though that the upgrade from ascii to beowulf did not work :( | 17:41 |
| fsmithred | where did it go wrong? | 17:41 |
| gnu_srs | The packages mentioned above was not installed with the upgrade. | 17:42 |
| LeePen | As far as I know, xfce4 will use either consolekit or elogind. | 17:42 |
| LeePen | However, most other DE only work with elogind. So if you want to have several installed you will need to use elogind for them all (including xfce). | 17:42 |
| fsmithred | ok, that's better than it used to be | 17:43 |
| LeePen | Good! | 17:43 |
| fsmithred | I think mate and xfce wanted consolekit and the others wanted elogind. Not sure. | 17:43 |
| LeePen | And both slim and lightdm will use either consolekit or elogind. | 17:43 |
| fsmithred | cool | 17:43 |
| LeePen | So it is reasonably flexible now. | 17:44 |
| fsmithred | I use xfce with elogind and it works fine | 17:44 |
| LeePen | gnu_srs: have you task-xfce-desktop installed? | 17:44 |
| LeePen | I hope that would have pulled in all the correct dependencies. | 17:44 |
| gnu_srs | I have task-desktop not task-xfce-desktop | 17:46 |
| gnu_srs | Sorry, I do also have task-xfce-desktop installed. | 17:47 |
| LeePen | The latest version? 3.54+devuan1. | 17:48 |
| gnu_srs | Yes | 17:49 |
| gnu_srs | I've now pushed eudev to unstable. | 17:50 |
| gnu_srs | And doing that I was told to: To create a merge request for suites/unstable, visit: ... | 17:50 |
| gnu_srs | And: You don't have the permission to access this page. | 17:51 |
| LeePen | I will need to check the tasksel dependencies again then. | 17:53 |
| gnu_srs | "cowbuilder create --distribution unstable" failed with missing packages but "cowbuilder create --distribution beowulf" worked | 17:55 |
| LeePen | Sometimes I get that if there is a mirror update in progress. Usually it works when you try again after a bit. | 18:04 |
| gnu_srs | Creating a merge request fail though: Please contact your GitLab administrator to get the permission. | 18:08 |
| LeePen | I can probably merge it. | 18:09 |
| LeePen | gnu_srs: Before I do, could you review the bugs at https://bugs.devuan.org/db/pa/leudev.html and see if any can be fixed? | 18:13 |
| gnu_srs | I'll take a look. CenturionDan also had some problem? | 18:36 |
| LeePen | I am looking at the bug reports that mention beowulf. | 19:04 |
| LeePen | Picked up #358 and have forked sshguard. | 19:05 |
| golinux | Just found KatolaZ' release outline for ASCII. Too bad we didn't remember that existed when we released 2.1. | 19:05 |
| golinux | https://pad.dyne.org/code/#/1/edit/YBwTUt5ApelHENSw8G8O4A/kqYH0sUQU+TvGIRi9hVeHcsF/ | 19:05 |
| golinux | Anyway let's set up a similar pad for beowulf. I also remember that KatolaZ made a list of bugs from bugs.d.o that needed to be fixed before the release but have managed to find it yet. I'll keep digging . . . | 19:08 |
| LeePen | That would be good. I am just searching through the complete list. | 19:10 |
| LeePen | Some are already fixed. | 19:11 |
| gnu_srs | How do I close a bug? | 19:15 |
| fsmithred | email to <bug#>-close@bugs.devuan.org | 19:16 |
| fsmithred | I think you need to have the word, close in the body. Looks like that's what I've been doing. | 19:19 |
| LeePen | Or really and explanation of how it is fixed is more useful. | 19:19 |
| gnu_srs | But that won't be possible until the package is built and available?? | 19:19 |
| fsmithred | yeah, I do that sometimes, too | 19:20 |
| gnu_srs | Do you mean debian/changelog, as for Debian? | 19:20 |
| LeePen | I put the Closes: #NNN in the changelog just like Debian. | 19:22 |
| LeePen | However, the bug has to be manually closed by email ^^^^ | 19:22 |
| LeePen | It doesn't get closed automatically like in debian with an upload. | 19:23 |
| golinux | Here's another pad from KatolaZ that might be useful: https://pad.dyne.org/code/#/1/edit/aEXydBHk28Tormi6Vhyazg/EexaicIbGCz5Hj5+HPl4ZjNb/ | 19:46 |
| golinux | It's a to-do list for beowulf | 19:46 |
| LeePen | Thanks | 19:48 |
| golinux | I think Evilham might take a look at bugs.d.o to make sure we don't miss anything | 19:52 |
| * Evilham needs a clone army | 19:52 | |
| golinux | Evilham: Maybe someone else will beat you to it. | 19:53 |
| golinux | "might" is conditional so no pressure. | 19:54 |
| * golinux would love to have some Evilham clones in the workshop | 19:55 | |
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