libera/#devuan-dev/ Tuesday, 2020-01-14

arachnopavelHello. What's the status of beowulf? Is it stilll being developed? Can't find any info about it on devuan.org, even though I could swear there were some.10:50
enycarachnopavel: preression i got is not that far from release, many users already upgraded to etc10:51
arachnopavelenyc: which presentation? Could you post a link, please? Yeah, I've upgraded too. In fact, did that many months ago, and even built a custom iso.10:53
gnu_srs1arachnopavel: If you are running ascii you can easily upgrade: s/ascii/bewoulf/ in sources.list (apt-get upgrade, apt-get dist-upgrade)10:54
enycarachnopavel: no presentaiotn, i meant "impression I got"[...]10:55
arachnopavelenyc: ah. :)10:55
enyc** NB:  looking back from above,  can sothese points be put in a new draft release-notes?   we want to check new users get right polkit and so-on, and upgradedrs  have the 'snags to watch out for'10:56
enyci'd like to help QA/read those netes / etc10:56
arachnopavelgnu_srs1: yeah, I did, many months ago. Now I just wonder if beowulf isn't being cancelled in favor of ceres (maybe).10:56
gnu_srs1ceres is unstable (i.e. debian sid) and will always be ceres (no release name)10:58
gnu_srs1Admittedly, I don't know the name of next release after beowulf. It should start with a c though. Anybody?11:06
arachnopavelgnu_srs1: so, to make it clear: beowulf is still going to be the next stable, just like buster in debian?11:07
kilobytearachnopavel: yeah11:07
arachnopavelThanks!11:07
gnu_srs1yes11:08
gnu_srs1The next release would correspond to Debian Bullseye = Devuan ??11:09
kilobyteIIRC someone gave a name, indeed starting with c11:12
kilobytecan't remember, but grepping ^c through the list of biggest minor planets would limit the suspects :)11:12
JackFrostI don't know past releases, so I don't know if Ceres is old.11:13
kilobytedon't worry, even most DDs don't know what distribution rc-buggy is :)11:15
JackFrostWith Debian it's always the numbers I don't remember.11:16
fsmithredchimaera11:43
LeePenAFAIU ceres will stay as unstable (like debian sid) and the release based on bullseye is chimaera.11:44
LeePenfsmithred: beat me to it!11:44
amesserLeePen: Some days ago I was wondering if/when the tomcat9 package will be available for beowulf? Was trying/testing some java web servicess. The package is in Debian but missing in Beowulf. I think it has a tight coupling to systemd.11:54
LeePenamesser: Yes, in fact I can see a pending bug about it.11:56
LeePenDo you fancy forking a package?11:56
amesserSry, I have been non contributing to devuan for a while now. What you mean with "fancy forking". I think we need to fork tomcat9 and provide an own version if we want to have it in Devuan. Its too tightly intgerated with systemd.11:58
LeePenYes, so somebody (preferably who uses it) needs to fork a version for devuan and remove the systemd integration.11:59
LeePenI don't use it, so it is hard for me to test.12:00
amesserWell actually decided not to use any of the webapps so my "need" has disappeared. But, I could give it a try to package it for Devuan. I can test it with these webapps: Actually I was evaluating "airsonic" and similar stuff for photo management for use with my home-server12:04
gnu_srs1golinux: Maybe the web pages should be updated: https://devuan.org/os/releases only mentions jssie, ascii, ceres (and experimental)12:16
golinuxFYI . . . there is currently a discussion of tomcat on the forum at https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=324917:42
golinuxgnu_srs1: Website updates are on my list.  Currently dealing with debbugs and pkginfo theming.17:43
* fsmithred is rearranging hardware. back soon (I hope)17:52
amesserLeePen: FYI: I was able to build tomcat9 here now, it also still ships with initscript. I'll do some tests tomorrow.22:03
LeePenamesser: great.22:10

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