| rrq | fsmithred: I uploaded 2020-03-12-devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_amd64_netinstall.iso that is supposed to "beep" on the installation menu; the EFI variant is fine, but I cannot test the bios variant. Would you be able to check that? | 12:48 |
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| fsmithred | yes, I can test both | 12:48 |
| fsmithred | have you noticed a grub error screen before the menu - says it can't find the theme | 12:48 |
| rrq | hmm no; but it uses the theme? It does for me. | 12:49 |
| fsmithred | no, I"m not seeing the theme when the menu comes up (after pressing a key) | 12:50 |
| rrq | or do you mean grub after nstallation? | 12:50 |
| fsmithred | no, I"m seeing it in the installer boot menu | 12:50 |
| fsmithred | someone else saw it in an installed system after migration from buster, but that was because he had the line in /etc/default/grub but desktop-base was missing (got removed in the migration, maybe?) | 12:51 |
| rrq | the EFI-grub installer uses "my" beowulf.theme, which I placed at a non-default path. | 12:53 |
| rrq | maybe I should stop being stubborn and use the default theme search path... | 12:54 |
| fsmithred | it works for you but not for me? | 12:54 |
| rrq | works fine for me | 12:54 |
| fsmithred | it beeps! | 12:55 |
| rrq | are you able to capture the grub complaint? | 12:55 |
| fsmithred | when the menu comes up (tested grub) | 12:55 |
| fsmithred | yeah, let me reboot it | 12:55 |
| fsmithred | error: grub/beowulf.theme not found | 12:56 |
| fsmithred | press any key to continue | 12:56 |
| rrq | peculiar | 12:57 |
| fsmithred | beeps for isolinux menu, too | 12:58 |
| rrq | the theme is supposed to be found at $prefix/beowulf.theme | 12:59 |
| rrq | great... let be try to place the theme in the default dir | 12:59 |
| fsmithred | then tell me how you did it and maybe I can get the theme to show up in the desktop-live on uefi | 13:00 |
| rrq | needs a "set theme=BLAHA" in grub.cfg and then the themes/BLAHA theme file | 13:05 |
| rrq | somewhere I found a "reference guide" for theme plodding | 13:06 |
| rrq | the BLAHA may also be an absolute path, so I could place it as /boot/grub/beowulf.theme. But that only works for me, apparently. | 13:08 |
| rrq | might need an "export theme" in grub.cfg as well | 13:17 |
| rrq | uploaded 2020-03-12-2-.. with beowulf.themes moved into "default" sub dir... works for me still | 13:38 |
| fsmithred | ok, I'll download it. Have to go out now, so I'll test it later | 13:40 |
| fsmithred | both of the 03-12 isos work the same for me. Behavior varies from one machine to the next. | 15:59 |
| fsmithred | thinkpad gets the grub error | 15:59 |
| fsmithred | toshiba does the right thing | 15:59 |
| fsmithred | on the fanless celeron box, they are not the same: the older one tries to do pxe boot, the later one (12-2) does the right thing. | 16:03 |
| fsmithred | bios boot works correctly on all three with both isos | 16:04 |
| fsmithred | simple workaround on the thinkpad is to press s twice | 16:34 |
| golinux | Pad for this week's meet. https://pad.dyne.org/code/#/2/code/edit/UL2o3j3osKcHQVCGEzaaZpq7/ | 16:51 |
| yeti | \o/ | 17:08 |
| mason | Ooh. I might be able to join today's call... No meetings in the way and if I clear out my current task list... | 17:10 |
| mason | And, I seem to be driving a case I thought someone else had, so there's me this afternoon. | 18:36 |
| bpmedley | rrq : Is VM testing acceptable with the beowulf install ISO? | 22:48 |
| rrq | certainly | 22:49 |
| bpmedley | May I get a link? I have a pulldown for Legacy Bios, EFI 32 bit, and EFI 64 bit. I've never used the EFI that I know of. Which would you like me to test first? | 22:49 |
| rrq | I just removed the trials except for the netinstall; they are being published later (my) today. | 22:51 |
| rrq | remaining trial is at https://borta.rrq.id.au/ | 22:51 |
| bpmedley | rrq : Ok, cool! | 22:51 |
| bpmedley | Reading the above messages looks like you would prefer a Legacy Bios test. Is that correct? | 22:52 |
| rrq | well all the installation menu variations; both bios and EFI will need (re-) confirmation | 22:54 |
| bpmedley | rrq : EFI 32 bit or EFI 64 bit? | 22:55 |
| rrq | both should work; likewise bios 32 and 64 | 22:57 |
| rrq | then also the server + pool CD variations | 22:57 |
| bpmedley | I'll start with Legacy, then try EFI 32 bit and then EFI 64 bit. Ok? | 22:57 |
| rrq | server+CD2 should allow xfce desktop | 22:57 |
| rrq | server+CD3 should allow mate desktop | 22:57 |
| rrq | server+CD{2,3,4} should allow "all" desktops | 22:58 |
| rrq | and all task-${language}-desktop variants as well | 22:59 |
| rrq | and of course "server" by itself is a server installation with "console productivity" | 23:00 |
| bpmedley | rrq : http://bmedley.org/adhoc/2020-03-12/beowolf_legacy_bios.mov | 23:13 |
| bpmedley | Can you view the video? | 23:14 |
| rrq | nope. (can't connect at TCP level) | 23:16 |
| rrq | (your end) | 23:16 |
| rrq | 157.245.2.115 | 23:17 |
| bpmedley | curl -v http://bmedley.org/adhoc/2020-03-12/beowolf_legacy_bios.mov >/dev/null <-- Does this show anything? | 23:18 |
| rrq | now ok | 23:19 |
| bpmedley | Yay | 23:19 |
| rrq | s/beowolf/beowulf/ -- not very important :) | 23:20 |
| bpmedley | haha.. | 23:20 |
| rrq | try c-a-f2 .. or add nomodeset to the boot parameters | 23:21 |
| rrq | I'm restoring an i386 netinstall trial for you .. ~10 min | 23:27 |
| bpmedley | rrq : nomodeset worked!! Installing the base system currently. | 23:29 |
| rrq | great. a bit boring it needs nomodeset .. a kernel improvement gone astray if you ask me (noone does :)) | 23:31 |
| bpmedley | I'm not very familiar with nomodeset. | 23:32 |
| rrq | afaik it's something about changing console video mode during kernel initialisation .. aimed at avoiding some display flickering during boot. or something | 23:35 |
| rrq | nomodeset disables that logic | 23:35 |
| bpmedley | rrq : EFI 32 Bit without nomodeset, then no go. With nomodeset the installer loads. Both Legacy and EFI32 are text based installs.. | 23:39 |
| rrq | yes, I wonder if defaulting tonomodeset would be detrimental for any/many bare-metal use cases | 23:42 |
| bpmedley | rrq : I get no TAB ability with EFI64. With default options I get no installer. | 23:46 |
| rrq | doesn't EFI use grub.. i.e., command "e" and editing of the "linux" line? | 23:46 |
| bpmedley | Dunno. Let me try booting again. I did see "grub>" once. | 23:47 |
| rrq | would be command "e", then edit, then C-x to boot | 23:48 |
| bpmedley | Want a video of the VM session? I'm not sure where command "e" should be input. | 23:54 |
| rrq | sames as where you use TAB for bios | 23:54 |
| rrq | btw my quick browsing suggests that nomodeset is never a problem... but I'll need more input on that | 23:56 |
| bpmedley | Working!! | 23:56 |
| bpmedley | EFI64 is working with nomodeset | 23:57 |
| bpmedley | One scenario: If you hit enter on root password, then enter again. The system will install with an x in the password entry for root. I then can think of no easy way to login as root. | 23:59 |
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