| rrq | morning all. overslept the meeting. I'm sure it was fun. | 01:21 |
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| golinux | About as much as the dentist | 01:23 |
| bpmedley | https://borta.rrq.id.au/ <-- Beowulf Beta2 ISOs available here. Many thanks to rrq for all the work they've done. | 10:12 |
| golinux | *\o/* | 10:13 |
| Joril | Very nice! | 10:13 |
| golinux | Well done, bpmedley. | 10:13 |
| bpmedley | Thanks!! | 10:13 |
| gnu_srs | LeePen: build005 upgraded to Beowulf :D | 10:53 |
| LeePen | gnu_srs: Thanks | 11:01 |
| fsmithred | netinstall without network works on beta2! | 11:44 |
| fsmithred | what determines whether /etc/network/interfaces gets an entry for eth0 or not? | 11:45 |
| fsmithred | I see it in some installs but not others | 11:45 |
| rrq | magic? | 12:05 |
| fsmithred | ok, now I can't edit /etc/apt/sources.list to use a repository. No nano, no vi. | 12:14 |
| onefang | Use the magic. B-) | 12:15 |
| onefang | Or sed? | 12:15 |
| fsmithred | I'll try sed | 12:15 |
| onefang | apt install magic | 12:16 |
| rrq | hmm there's a nano inthe initrd | 12:16 |
| onefang | I already had magic installed. lol | 12:16 |
| onefang | VLSI layout tool | 12:17 |
| rrq | the (pre) installer gains an interfaces file when the network is set up | 12:18 |
| fsmithred | network commands are not installed, either: ip, ifconfig dhclient | 12:21 |
| rrq | yes it basically only includes debootstrap's "minbase" with its depends and recommends | 12:21 |
| fsmithred | standard system utils was checked | 12:22 |
| rrq | yes, so they would have been installed from the network | 12:22 |
| rrq | maybe the notion that it offers "minbase" is insufficient ? | 12:27 |
| fsmithred | netbase and net-tools missing in minbase | 12:39 |
| fsmithred | rsyslog is missing | 12:39 |
| fsmithred | I made a list of these a few days ago | 12:39 |
| fsmithred | iproute2, iptables, ifupdown | 12:40 |
| rrq | so you think the netinstall needs to have more than "minbase"? maybe even standard (i.e. all require + all important)? | 12:53 |
| fsmithred | only if people are going to use it for offline install | 12:59 |
| fsmithred | I'm trying a wireless netinstall now, and the installer isn't showing me the wireless interface. | 13:00 |
| fsmithred | lspci sees it, iwlwifi is loaded | 13:00 |
| Centurion_Dan | o/ | 13:37 |
| rrq | fsmithred: re wirless is very odd. can you capture dmesg and syslog? | 14:04 |
| fsmithred | yeah, I'll do it again. take just a few minutes. | 14:05 |
| fsmithred | dmesg: https://termbin.com/r302 | 14:15 |
| fsmithred | dmesg: https://termbin.com/e4b1 | 14:15 |
| fsmithred | no | 14:15 |
| fsmithred | syslog: https://termbin.com/e4b1 | 14:16 |
| rrq | hmm where's the "check-missing-firmware" output in syslog? | 14:33 |
| rrq | or maybe I misunderstood? perhaps you are talking about the boot after installation? | 14:34 |
| fsmithred | no, that was installer syslog | 14:42 |
| rrq | hmm and that was at the interface selection dialogue? | 14:49 |
| rrq | .. or wherever following the keyboard choice dialog | 14:54 |
| fsmithred | yeah, after interface detection | 15:00 |
| fsmithred | I think I halted the automatic connection, because it only saw eth0 and cable was not plugged in | 15:00 |
| rrq | but at that point it should have gone through the check-missing-firmware "steps" | 15:01 |
| rrq | peculiar | 15:02 |
| fsmithred | how did the firmware get loaded? | 15:02 |
| fsmithred | and what was trying to load it at the end when it says it failed to load? | 15:03 |
| rrq | apparently it (iwlwifi) hasn't been loaded; syslog says it tries and fails | 15:03 |
| fsmithred | lsmod says it's loaded | 15:03 |
| fsmithred | unloading and reloading didn't help | 15:03 |
| rrq | but it doesn't do that "check-missing-firmware" (which sets up the CD for firmware download) | 15:04 |
| rrq | the adapter is there but its firware isn't loaded | 15:04 |
| rrq | syslog should say "check-missing-firmware" some 15 times ... | 15:05 |
| fsmithred | running check-missing-firmware manually did nothing that I could see | 15:06 |
| fsmithred | well, it clears the screen and returns the prompt | 15:07 |
| rrq | can you try again using expert mode and jump directly to "detect and mount cd-rom" and "load installer..." then grep for firmware in syslog | 15:09 |
| fsmithred | sure | 15:09 |
| fsmithred | https://termbin.com/qnrf | 15:13 |
| rrq | ok; I think the "syslog" you gave before was somthing else | 15:14 |
| rrq | next option is 'detect network hardware' .. would need syslog after that | 15:15 |
| fsmithred | the whole thing? | 15:16 |
| fsmithred | or just the 'firmware' lines? | 15:17 |
| fsmithred | https://termbin.com/7gmn | 15:17 |
| fsmithred | syslog ^^^ | 15:17 |
| rrq | "Missing modules 'eth1394 (FireWire ethernet)" .. is that for the wifi? .. at 13:12:47 it should have loaded the firmware | 15:32 |
| fsmithred | no, it has separate firewire | 15:33 |
| rrq | I found a log line saying "Intel(R) Wireless WiFi driver for Linux" but nothing else about wifi (?) | 15:35 |
| rrq | the hw switch is on of course | 15:36 |
| fsmithred | not sure | 15:37 |
| fsmithred | normally it works if I run wicd | 15:37 |
| rrq | hw-detect.hotplug only finds the two interfaces lo and eth0 | 15:39 |
| rrq | hmm the initrd doesn't have rfkill | 15:43 |
| fsmithred | I flipped the switch on the side of the laptop and ran detect network hardware again. no change. also, not sure what that switch is. | 15:43 |
| rrq | do you have a bootable installlation on in? then maybe share a boot syslog? | 15:46 |
| fsmithred | yeah, it boots from hard drive | 15:46 |
| fsmithred | btw, the switch turns the bluetooth light on and off | 15:47 |
| fsmithred | wifi light is off | 15:47 |
| fsmithred | will reboot now | 15:47 |
| rrq | letting gate here som my misleepings inrescses | 15:50 |
| fsmithred | my syslog is not rotating. It goes back to september. | 15:51 |
| rrq | clip from last "kernel: [ 0.000000] Linux version" | 15:52 |
| fsmithred | oh, right ok | 15:52 |
| mason | fsmithred: Is ed(1) in the minimal install? It might be less paiful than sed. | 17:11 |
| fsmithred | I don't know | 17:11 |
| fsmithred | np, I know how to use sed | 17:12 |
| mason | Trivia: before sed(1) grew its -i option, I used to do in-place edits with ed(1) and here-docs. | 17:12 |
| fsmithred | and I don't plan to be doing it a lot | 17:12 |
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