libera/#devuan-dev/ Monday, 2020-06-01

xrogaanE: Le dépôt « http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf InRelease » a modifié sa valeur « Suite » de « testing » à « stable »03:05
xrogaan:D03:05
rrqmais oui!03:26
yeti\o/03:50
rrqnote that I had to rename the isos...04:26
rrqand update the torrent file (even though the pieces are the same)04:27
rrqand update the magnet link04:28
rrqactually the pieces might also be changed since probably the order of concatenation changed04:30
yetilsb_release -sir   still reports "debian 3"? or did I pebcak'd the update?04:35
rrqthat's what I get too (up to date bewoulf)04:47
yetiI'll call it woody then04:55
yeti.-Þ04:55
xrogaanShouldn't be debian though, or it should follow debian's version number05:41
xrogaanThrows utilities for a spin.05:41
xrogaanrrq: anyhow, anything is seeding the torrent?05:41
rrqI don't know. I don't use torrent.06:14
xrogaanwhat the point in putting up a torrent if nobody's sharing?06:22
* golinux doesn't torrent either06:27
rrqyeah. not sure where it came from, but apparently some people wanted it. Devuan has a large collection of mirrors, rather.06:30
EvilhamIIRC fdo is supposed to be running transmission daemon10:58
Evilhamwhich does the seeding10:58
Evilhamm10:59
rrqmmm would we want that much traffic to it?11:12
fsmithredanyone using bittorrent right now? I think I'm seeding beowulf. xrogaan?11:22
fsmithredif we don't allow bt traffic to fdo, we better get some seeders going. It's a minor pain in the ass to download the files manually to set up seeding.11:24
xrogaanyep11:24
onefangWhat's the quick and easy way to do that on an existing fdo mirror?11:25
xrogaani'm seeing someone :)11:25
xrogaanbetter advertise the torrent then, on the ml?11:25
fsmithredwocdj O cpi;d tu[e11:25
fsmithrednow I forget what I wanted to say11:26
fsmithred50kB/s11:26
onefangHope that wasn't an important password.11:27
fsmithredI did 'wget -c -r https://files.devuan.org/devuan_beowulf/11:27
fsmithredwhich did not do what I wanted11:27
fsmithredbut did do what I needed11:27
onefanglol11:27
fsmithredit pulled in more than beowulf11:27
fsmithrednot a password11:27
fsmithredmy keyboard no longer has nipples, so my fingers get lost11:28
fsmithrednext step was to open the torrent file in transmission and tell it to download to the location I had just copied with wget11:28
fsmithredit checks the files and downloads if anything is still missing11:29
fsmithredand also starts seeding11:29
fsmithredand be careful about stopping and starting wget - pay attention to what dir you're in so you don't get recursive trees full of big files.11:30
xrogaanyou have plenty of http mirrors, none of them can seed?11:37
onefangThat's why I asked "What's the quick and easy way to do that on an existing fdo mirror?".11:38
xrogaanonefang: if you have lftp -> lftp -c help torrent11:39
onefangJust so happens my fdo mirror does have lftp.11:40
xrogaanassuming /path/to/beowulf to be the folder containing the README.txt, something like: wget https://files.devuan.org/devuan_beowulf.torrent && lftp -c torrent --share -O /path/to/beowulf devuan_beowulf.torrent11:41
xrogaanread the man page though11:42
xrogaanlftp might try to validate the files, so if they are at all different, your copy will be altered.11:42
xrogaan> Seeding continues until ratio reaches torrent:stop-on-ratio setting or time of torrent:seed-max-time runs out.11:44
xrogaanso configure it properly?11:44
onefangI'll experiment with that later.11:44
xrogaanI don't think there are defaults set, at least not in /etc/lftp.conf11:45
xrogaanfsmithred: I'll have to shutdown  this computer and go to sleep though. Thanks.12:01
LeePenfsmithred golinux jaromil bgstack15 plasma41: just sent a draft announcement by email.16:35
LeePenFor comment, or ripping up and starting again.16:35
LeePenPlease be gentle with me!16:35
fsmithreddid you see what was on the pad?16:35
LeePenYes, I started from there. I just didn't want to overwrite it.16:36
fsmithredI APPROVE!!!16:36
LeePenDo the pads have history?16:36
fsmithredjust saw it16:36
fsmithredprobably. I have as little interaction as possible with that pad thingy16:37
* LeePen nods16:37
fsmithredreading it generates some excitement about the release16:39
fsmithredThank you!16:39
fsmithredmeanwhile, I answered Olaf on the mailing list.16:39
LeePenfsmithred: Thanks.16:51
EvilhamI also like the announcement text from LeePen :-)18:12
EvilhamFWIW :-D18:12
golinuxThe beta site was pushed to master and there are still holes in it.  A heads up would have been nice.18:15
golinuxHa! Someone filed in the date on /os!  Thank you (I assume LeePen)18:17
LeePengolinux: and rrq18:18
golinuxWhat an amazing due you are!18:19
golinuxduo18:19
LeePenWe published the new site as questions were coming in about beowulf being testing or stable.18:20
LeePenSorry not to be able to ask you first.18:21
golinuxGood call!  I was probably sleeping anyway . . .18:21
golinuxAnd distracted with what went down on #debianfork18:22
golinuxWhat a mess and quite stressfull18:22
LeePenYou certainly should have been :)18:22
LeePenfsmithred: Hope your heart is OK.18:27
fsmithredyeah, I'm still breathing18:28
LeePenGreat. Sorry, I hadn't thought of that aspect.18:29
fsmithredbut maybe we should have a long-range plan to replace it18:31
masonfsmithred: Debianfork or your heart? Hoping the channel, as that'd be an easier fix.18:34
fsmithredlol18:35
fsmithredfork18:35
masonAnyway, congrats on the release! Good stuff.18:35
fsmithredI have a name for the replacement channel...18:35
fsmithreddevuanspoon18:35
masonfsmithred: I'd tend to go for the boring #devuan-social, but #devuanspoon has some appeal.18:35
onefangThere is no #devuanspoon.18:35
masonThat's part of the appeal.18:36
yeti#devuan-sofa ?18:37
masonI'd still go for #devuan-social if it's not to be #devuanspoon.18:37
yetimaybe sofa looks a bit too much like an abbreviation18:38
LeePen#devuan-divan?18:39
yeti#*-offtopic is in use for multiple projects. maybe sticking to a common scheme has more andvantages than a creative own naming?18:40
yetialis (alis@services.): Maximum channel output reached18:41
masonSlackware uses -offtopic. FreeBSD and CentOS use -social. Not sure what other groups use.18:41
yetimore *-offtopic channels than alis wants to spit out at once18:41
masonIf there's more than one viable pattern, that in and of itself recommends spoon.18:42
yetiif you want to be on topic in *-offtopic, what can you dare to discuss?18:45
yeti*cough!*18:45
yetiif being offtopic is on topic, there is a problem...18:45
yetiok... but dont use a too complicated association... the majority of the world isnt born with an englisch tongue...18:46
golinuxI have no idea what devuanspoon even means.  And how did this discussion even get to a public channel?19:00
golinuxIt was a very private administrative email19:00
* golinux 's stress level goes up 10 points.19:01
golinuxThanks again.  Why can't the left foot be informed of what the right foot is doing?19:02
fsmithredwe got you to hug, but can we get you to spoon?19:02
masonheh19:06
golinuxEeeewwww . . .19:44
golinuxfork stupidity is invading this channel, it seems . . .19:45
masongolinux: Eh? None of the people I have on ignore are in here. Which bit is fork stupidity? We're mostly discussing fsmithred's suggestion for a name for an off-topic channel, and that whole discussion arose from your saying, earlier: Good call!  I was probably sleeping anyway . . . And distracted with what went down on #debianfork   What a mess and quite stressfull21:57
masonMaybe what's objectionable only makes sense for folks who were in #debianfork earlier.21:58
fsmithredI think she was referring to my comments21:59
fsmithredI need to go outside. bbl22:02
plasma41o/22:17
plasma41Sorry for being afk pretty much all weekend. I going to make some late lunch, then I'll be available the rest of the day to help with torrent, website, and all the things.22:19
plasma41How torrents work, explained in a single animated GIF: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3d/Torrentcomp_small.gif22:22
golinuxplasma41: You missed the party by several hours.  It's over.  Go have tea and a crumpet.22:27
plasma41o/23:05
golinuxNo announcement yet though and still a dead link to it on the websites index page.23:09
plasma41Yes, I saw the website had been migrated, so I ran the site through the W3C's link checker again to make sure nothing unexpected broke in the transition.23:14
plasma41The page https://devuan.org/os/filenaming appears to have gotten lost in the site migration.23:24
golinuxIt was deleted23:37
golinuxDid I mess a link pointing to it?23:38
golinuxmiss23:38
plasma41Why was it deleted? Have we agreed to abandon that filenaming convention? (It's still linked to from the historical Jessie Stable announcement, btw)23:53

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