| gnu_srs4 | fsmithred: How long delay did you need to fix the eudev problems in #483? | 16:13 |
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| gnu_srs4 | Problem with eudev and earlier versions of udev+sysvinit is that we don't have --notify-await option in start-stop-daemon. | 16:14 |
| Evilham | fsmithred: someone rec'd a walkthrough of refracta installer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqrIgyZhtUk | 16:30 |
| LeePen | Just finished the migration of git.d.o/devuan-packages to gitea/devuan. | 16:36 |
| LeePen | I have tried to weed cruft. I will present the list at the meet tomorrow, but if you think I have missed something that should be migrated, do say. | 16:37 |
| LeePen | GitLab repositories which have been migrated have gitea url added to description and are archived, so read-only. | 16:41 |
| onefang | I'm not understanding how to set the gitlab permissions on my old projects. rrq suggested "check out devuan-packages/dbus as example", it says public, there is no source code or anything else. I can't get mine to do that just by messing with the permissions. | 17:34 |
| bgstack15 | Gitlab preserved issues, presentation attempt #2 is ready now! https://beta.devuan.org/gitlab-issues/ | 17:38 |
| onefang | The gitea version of my repos is done now at least. | 17:40 |
| onefang | And all the links to the old gitlab repos in the code are now also updated. That helped to test pushing to the new repos. B-) | 17:42 |
| LeePen | onefang: I have just discovered the GitLab archive setting. I am now setting that on all the devuan-packages/* that are migrated. | 17:49 |
| LeePen | Just updated https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/dbus to that if you want to look. | 17:50 |
| onefang | I was looking at that, but it wasn't what rrq told me to do, so I didn't. | 17:50 |
| onefang | OK, I'll do that. | 17:51 |
| LeePen | I realise that. I only recently found the archive option and suggested that to rrq as a better approach. | 17:51 |
| onefang | https://gitlab.devuan.org/onefang/apt-panopticon and https://gitlab.devuan.org/onefang/apt-panopticon_cgp are now migrated and archived. | 17:52 |
| * onefang logs out of gitlab.d.o for the last time, unless we need to do something else to the old repos. | 17:53 | |
| LeePen | A Red Letter day! | 17:55 |
| onefang | lol | 17:55 |
| onefang | Tomorrow will be another red letter day, if my new headset solves the "onefang's voice is too noisy in jitsi" problem. | 17:56 |
| * onefang wonders if jitsi has an echo service for testing that sort of thing? | 17:57 | |
| gnu_srs4 | LeePen: If you want I could build eudev 3.2.7-7 fixing a ln bug and adding a short sleep (how long?) for start/restart in beowulf as well as build 3.2.9-7~beowulf1 for beowulf-proposed-updates. | 18:13 |
| LeePen | gnu_srs4: Will 3.2.9-7 fix the short sleep issue? | 18:14 |
| fsmithred | gnu_srs4, I used 10 seconds, the guy who filed the bug used 1 sec, but he's on netboot and I'm on optical media. | 18:29 |
| fsmithred | I was thinking of trying a shorter time, like maybe 2 seconds, but I'm also waiting to see if I learn anything useful before I burn another dvd that will get put in the trash. | 18:29 |
| onefang | No jitsi echo service. B-( | 18:36 |
| onefang | Ah, opening up the same jitsi meeting in different tabs gives you a poor mans echo service. lol | 18:40 |
| fsmithred | onefang, I do isohybrid and also multi-boot live-usb that's on a fat32 partition. I can send you email showing the file layouts I use, later today or tonight. | 18:40 |
| onefang | Sure, thanks. This is what you want EFI SYslinux / Isolinux to do? | 18:41 |
| onefang | I was about to ping you. lol | 18:41 |
| fsmithred | yeah, right now the isos use isolinux for bios and grub for uefi | 18:41 |
| fsmithred | would be nice to have them both use the same bootloader if possible | 18:42 |
| onefang | Send me the details, I'll see if I can get it to work. | 18:42 |
| fsmithred | thanks | 18:42 |
| gnu_srs4 | LeePen: Yes, the plan was to introduce a sleep, dunno yet how long is needed! | 18:43 |
| onefang | In case you didn't know, Grub invaders is a space invaders game built to be booted directly from Grub. | 18:43 |
| fsmithred | gnu_srs4, I can try a shorter time later today and let you know what happens | 18:43 |
| fsmithred | onefang, yes, I know that, and I was surprised to see that you got it to work with syslinux. | 18:44 |
| gnu_srs4 | fsmithred: Nice :) | 18:44 |
| onefang | The only problem with Grub invaders, and it didn't matter if I booted it from grub or syslinux, is it doesn't like my KVM. I have to plug a keyboard in directly. ror | 18:45 |
| fsmithred | gnu_srs4, if you have any educated guesses about how many second I should use, please speak up. | 18:45 |
| onefang | s/ror/lol/ | 18:45 |
| LeePen | gnu_srs4: Then since you wanted 3.2.9 in beowulf, I would roll it and the sleep together in beowulf-proposed-updates. | 18:56 |
| LeePen | Since beowulf is now released I think that is the right way in for package updates. | 18:57 |
| amesser | LeePen: Regarding the gitea, i have migrated my personal repos. When updating a package, should I still push to gitlab or only to gitea? | 22:19 |
| amesser | What is about the devuan-packages, should i still push changes to gitlab or just wait for gitea to be ready? | 22:20 |
| golinux | amesser: After rrq migrated www, I could not even view the old source on gitlab. | 22:33 |
| amesser | Hmm, ok. I see, devuan packages are already "archieved" in gitlab. | 22:36 |
| amesser | So I guess, no need to push the updates there anymore. | 22:36 |
| LeePen | amesser, just gitea. | 22:51 |
| amesser | fine. | 22:51 |
| LeePen | I doubt it will be long before we will swap the DNS over so it will be back to git.d.o, but with the new path. | 22:52 |
| onefang | I'll have to reconfigure my local repos to push to git.d.o and revert the link changes in my code then. lol | 22:53 |
| LeePen | Yes, I know. Sorry. | 22:53 |
| LeePen | That is why I think we will change quite quickly: to minimise the number of changes that need to be made. | 22:54 |
| onefang | Well, at least I know now. | 22:54 |
| LeePen | Now the official repos have been migrated, I would have thought the DNS could be tomorrow. | 22:55 |
| amesser | Fine. I'll just wait then until all has settled. I'm too busy with other stuff at the moment anyways. | 23:12 |
| onefang | fsmithred: which version of Syslinux are you using? | 23:12 |
| fsmithred | whatever one is installed | 23:13 |
| fsmithred | beowulf now | 23:13 |
| fsmithred | 3:6.04~git20190206.bf6db5b4+dfsg1 | 23:13 |
| fsmithred | oh, I missed the -1 at the end. ceres has -2 | 23:15 |
| onefang | 3:6.04~git20190206.bf6db5b4+dfsg1-2 (from sid / ceres) is the one that works the best for EFI. Which is repeated over and over again in the Syslinux support forums. | 23:15 |
| fsmithred | I would guess that they are the same | 23:15 |
| onefang | -2 also works better than -1 according to my tests. | 23:16 |
| onefang | But I haven't tested isolinux yet. | 23:16 |
| fsmithred | huh. ok. you running it in beowulf? | 23:16 |
| onefang | My experiments involve a script I wrote where I can install from the various versions by changing a variable at the top of the script. | 23:17 |
| onefang | That includes stretch, stretch-backports, buster, sid, and the official Syslinux releases 6.03, 6.04-pre1, 6.04-pre2, 6.04-pre3, and self compiled from git head. | 23:18 |
| onefang | Nid and bullseye have the same version, so I skipped bullseye. | 23:19 |
| onefang | Er Sid and bullseye. | 23:19 |
| fsmithred | yup | 23:19 |
| fsmithred | same version is backported to ascii, too | 23:19 |
| fsmithred | don't bother with it | 23:19 |
| onefang | I did start running my tests from ASCII though. I've not installed beowulf anywhere yet. That'll be the next thing after I have tamed Syslinux. B-) | 23:20 |
| * onefang goes to download Refracta and notices a typo, you misspelled "current" in "***current stable***". | 23:27 | |
| onefang | ASCII is still stable Refracta? | 23:28 |
| fsmithred | yeah | 23:32 |
| fsmithred | you want a beowulf they are in the testing folder | 23:32 |
| fsmithred | get beta5 if it's there, otherwise beta2 | 23:32 |
| onefang | beta5 is there. | 23:33 |
| onefang | refracta10-beta5_xfce_amd64-20200518_0033.iso but no i386 version. | 23:33 |
| fsmithred | nope | 23:34 |
| fsmithred | you need that? | 23:34 |
| onefang | Magic Pixie Dust generally prefers 32 bit versions of stuff, but for testing, a 64 bit version of Refracta is OK for now. | 23:35 |
| fsmithred | thanks. Fixed the spelling error. | 23:39 |
| fsmithred | I think you could use beta2. Shouldn't be much different. | 23:40 |
| onefang | Which is why you said "otherwise beta2". B-) | 23:41 |
| onefang | I have unlimited bandwidth these days, I'll grab the lot. | 23:43 |
| fsmithred | note: login:passwords are root:root user:user | 23:47 |
| fsmithred | ssh-server is running | 23:47 |
| onefang | I saw that already. | 23:47 |
| fsmithred | no root login, but user login with password | 23:47 |
| onefang | Well, I saw the passwords, not the bit about ssh. | 23:48 |
| fsmithred | makes it useful but a little more dangerous | 23:48 |
| onefang | Getting them to boot under EFI using Syslinux is the important bit for me. Logging in is entirely optional. B-) | 23:48 |
| fsmithred | lol | 23:49 |
| fsmithred | ok | 23:49 |
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