| fsmithred | I just looked at the live install guide, and it's ascii, not beowulf. | 02:52 |
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| fsmithred | golinux, Xenguy Is it just me? | 02:52 |
| fsmithred | I get the same if I go to beta.devuan.org | 02:53 |
| Xenguy | uh oh | 02:53 |
| Xenguy | URL? | 02:53 |
| fsmithred | nope. I take that back. If I go to beta.devaun.org and follow the links, it's beowulf | 02:53 |
| Xenguy | whew | 02:54 |
| fsmithred | https://devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/ascii/live-gui | 02:54 |
| fsmithred | that link | 02:54 |
| fsmithred | on this page https://devuan.org/os/install | 02:54 |
| fsmithred | shows the ascii guide | 02:54 |
| golinux | Both beowul and ascii guides are on that page | 02:55 |
| golinux | https://devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/beowulf/live-gui | 02:56 |
| fsmithred | oh, duh | 02:56 |
| fsmithred | sorry for the noise | 02:56 |
| golinux | Install Beowulf (with screenshots) | 02:56 |
| golinux | Install Beowulf | 02:56 |
| golinux | Full Disk Encryption | 02:56 |
| golinux | Live Install | 02:56 |
| golinux | Install ASCII (with screenshots) | 02:56 |
| golinux | Install ASCII | 02:56 |
| golinux | Full Disk Encryption | 02:56 |
| golinux | Graphic Install | 02:56 |
| golinux | Graphic Disk Encryption | 02:56 |
| golinux | Live Install | 02:56 |
| Xenguy | Perfectly fine, we love bug reports here : -) | 02:56 |
| golinux | fsmithred: Just wait 10 or so years . . . | 02:58 |
| fsmithred | yeah, you didn't need to copy all that here. | 02:58 |
| fsmithred | I've already stopped reading between the links | 02:58 |
| golinux | ASCII looks "heavier" because of the graphic install | 02:59 |
| fsmithred | ? | 02:59 |
| golinux | 2 extra lines under ascii | 02:59 |
| * Xenguy goes for a smoke... | 03:00 | |
| golinux | eeewwww | 03:00 |
| Xenguy | Hey, it's not like I'm blowing it in your face 8 -D | 03:00 |
| * fsmithred really misses going out for a smoke | 03:01 | |
| Xenguy | Did you quit at some point fsmithred ? | 03:04 |
| Xenguy | (Are we allowed to chat OT in this #channel?) | 03:04 |
| fsmithred | yes and no | 03:05 |
| Xenguy | gotcha | 03:05 |
| fsmithred | quit early during lockdown using patch. It was easy. Now after 4-5 months it's getting harder. | 03:06 |
| Xenguy | Curious, I'd think you'd get over-the-hump at some point further on | 03:06 |
| Xenguy | Maybe just a stage | 03:07 |
| Xenguy | There is a way you could continue to smoke, but not have to bother with nicotine | 03:08 |
| Xenguy | = ) | 03:08 |
| fsmithred | yeah, the store is right up the street from me | 03:09 |
| Xenguy | hehe | 03:10 |
| Xenguy | You could switch to cannabis too, that's another way... | 03:10 |
| Xenguy | But I don't mean to be a bad influence | 03:11 |
| fsmithred | that's what I assumed you meant | 03:11 |
| Xenguy | Ah good | 03:11 |
| Xenguy | Most places it is still illegal | 03:11 |
| mason | fsmithred: It's a stereotype, but would chewing gum help? | 14:42 |
| fsmithred | probably not | 14:42 |
| fsmithred | gum happens all in the mouth, smoking does stuff below that | 14:43 |
| mason | hrm | 14:43 |
| fsmithred | stimulus | 14:43 |
| fsmithred | also, tobacco stimulates more dopamine | 14:44 |
| fsmithred | good alternative would be cocaine, but that's harder to find | 14:44 |
| mason | Hrm, you don't even have to go to Pueblo, Colorado nowadays! https://smokefree.gov/stay-smokefree-good/stick-with-it/how-to-stay-smokefree | 14:44 |
| mason | They don't have any easy replacements noted, but maybe there's *something* in there. | 14:45 |
| Xenguy | FWIW, I used chewing gum as a kind of 'placebo' when I was quitting tobacco. Whenever I got an urge for a cigarette, I'd just pop a stick of gum, and then try to distract myself in some other activity... | 14:46 |
| fsmithred | every time I stand up from my desk (on auto-pilot) to go out for a smoke, I remind myself that I don't do that anymore. | 14:46 |
| Xenguy | Again FWIW, that was back in 2006, and so far so good : -) | 14:47 |
| Xenguy | autopilot is a good word for it | 14:47 |
| fsmithred | happens a lot when I'm reading the news | 14:47 |
| Xenguy | That's my new bad habit ; -) | 14:48 |
| * Xenguy is off to the salt mines... | 14:48 | |
| fsmithred | I found it easier to do without support from others and without even mentioning it until I had already been done with it for a couple months. | 14:49 |
| mason | Whatever it takes, it's a good move and if others humans can help, whatever. | 14:49 |
| fsmithred | I think the existence of a lung-eating virus helped with motivation | 14:50 |
| fsmithred | but it was really easy to stop | 14:50 |
| mason | Oh, hadn't even thought of that. Yes, it's a tactically good move for that reason. | 14:50 |
| fsmithred | although there's some evidence that it has a protective effect when it comes to this virus | 14:51 |
| fsmithred | I kept some patches just in case... | 14:52 |
| bgstack15 | fsmithred: which ISO is the minimal-live? https://git.devuan.org/devuan/installer-iso doesn't make it terribly obvious which one it is. | 23:07 |
| fsmithred | wrong dir. Go up one and over to the live | 23:09 |
| fsmithred | bgstack15, https://files.devuan.org/devuan_beowulf/minimal-live/ | 23:10 |
| bgstack15 | Oh, and by the way, about the accessibility problem in general, I think this is the exact problem we had solved in the dpkgs themselves. I would assume that the ISOs are built from dpkgs. We probably need to promote the fixed packages out of beowulf-proposed-packages into beowulf. | 23:10 |
| bgstack15 | That is already my first recommendation. | 23:10 |
| fsmithred | yeah, I was wondering about that | 23:10 |
| fsmithred | all those changes were made? | 23:11 |
| fsmithred | if so, we're all set | 23:11 |
| bgstack15 | But they're not in beowulf yet. I guess we need to get LeePen's perspective on if those packages can be promoted yet to beowulf-updates or whatever. | 23:11 |
| fsmithred | I think everything in there is planned to go into beowulf once eudev is in there | 23:12 |
| bgstack15 | Do you feel that the fellow in question can wait until then? I realize the rest of us are waiting for the next eudev too. | 23:17 |
| fsmithred | you mean wait for the accessibility features? | 23:18 |
| fsmithred | I think he's all set, but he wants our isos to be right. | 23:18 |
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