libera/#devuan-dev/ Friday, 2020-10-09

plasma41In the eudev git repository what's the difference between the 'suites/unstable' branch and the suite/ceres' branch? Should one be dropped in favor of the other and if so, which one is the recommended branch name to use?06:10
rrqshould be suites/unstable I think06:19
rrqyes. pretty sure.06:21
plasma41Should the 'suites/beowulf' branch of that repository be fast-forwarded to commit 1e7f1dfd54c841816d6f9160e90653a271c4c6b0?06:34
plasma41afk06:36
rrqplasma41: the "procedure" is to build for suites/unstable and then "move" that in dak, rather than build for suites/beowulf ...07:47
rrqi.e. basically all branches other than 'suites/unstable' are historical only07:47
rrqwell suites/experimental is also a build branch07:49
gnu_srs1 FYI: I'm working on building an updated version of eudev for unstable, followed by a version for beowulf-proposed-updates.10:49
gnu_srs1Will be completed in the beginning of next week :)10:49
onefangEnough playtime with my new super desktop, I'm happy with the performance.  Time to install Beowulf on it.12:31
onefangIf we need it, I'll be happy to put some sort of Devuan build VMs on it later.12:32
bgstack15Alright team, what's the current standards-version for dpkg in Beowulf or Ascii?16:42
bgstack15Just off the top of your head.16:42
fsmithred1.18.25 50016:58
fsmithred        500 https://sledjhamr.org/devuan/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages16:58
fsmithred1.19.7 50016:58
fsmithred        500 http://sledjhamr.org/devuan/merged beowulf/main amd64 Packages16:58
fsmithredoops. not what you asked for.16:59
fsmithredascii is 9 and beowulf is 1017:00
fsmithredis that the right number?17:00
fsmithredbgstack15, https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/upgrading-checklist.html17:06
bgstack15Thanks, those are the numbers I needed. The 9 and 10 are the debhelper-compat or debhelper versions which are not what I was seeking this time.17:10
LeePenbgstack15: The Standards Version isn't absolutely linked to the release. So you can have current (4.5.0) in Beowulf or even ASCII.19:32
LeePenOr perhaps you meant debhelper compat version?19:33
bgstack15I did mean the 4.5.0 number.19:34
bgstack15I thought it was directly related to debhelper-compat though.19:34
LeePenI don't think so. Standards is a sort of consensus on good packaging practice.19:34
LeePenDebhelper compat defines the way the dh tools actually handle the build.19:35
bgstack15Does debhelper (or more importantly, lintian) act differently based on the standards value?19:35
LeePenIf you comply with Standards 4.5.0 you can state that irrespective of debhelper19:36
LeePenThe only think I know that might emit a warning is lintian if it encounters19:36
LeePena newer Standards Version  than it knows about.19:36
LeePenI don't think either debhelper or lintian actually behave differently19:37
LeePenbased on the Standards Version.19:37

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