libera/#devuan-dev/ Monday, 2020-11-09

ukineelectric going to be worked on off and on over the next few days here, might be sporadic13:01
ukinealso there's a storm that may make landfall near me later on in the week13:01
ukinethe fun never ends XD13:01
ukineafter this week i project straightforward uptime again13:04
parazydHi. Is devuan-keyring the only package that contains Devuan's gnupg keys required for apt?13:29
parazydAnd is the right file devuan-keyring.gpg or devuan-archive-keyring.gpg ?13:31
ukineit is not in the best interest of my affiliation with the project to keep anyone up-to-date via irc any longer. with that said, i'll just try my darndest from here on out :/13:35
ukinehappy thoughts...happy thoughts...13:35
parazydrrq, LeePen: Please see my msg above (and highlight anyone else if relevant)13:47
parazydMy plan is to have it maintained (by us) upstream in Debian, and then send another patch to debootstrap for proper support.13:48
parazydBecause currently Devuan can't be debootstrapped from a Debian installation13:49
parazydAs a bonus, you wouldn't have to have debootstrap forked anymore from chimaera onwards13:50
rrqLeePen: ^^^14:02
ShorTieyou can debootstrap on Debian, just gotta use the Devuan debootstrap is all14:33
ShorTiehardest part is finding the download14:36
parazydHence my proposition14:37
DPAIn my image builder, I use the debootstrap from the repo/release I try to debootstrap without installing it like this:14:39
DPA 1) I first lookup where the package is: https://github.com/Daniel-Abrecht/librem5-image-builder/blob/master/script/deblookup.sh14:39
DPA 2) I then download it: https://github.com/Daniel-Abrecht/librem5-image-builder/blob/master/script/getdeb.sh14:39
DPA 3) I unpack it with ar and tar: https://github.com/Daniel-Abrecht/librem5-image-builder/blob/master/chroot-build-helper/real-makefile#L2814:39
DPA 4) And finally I set DEBOOTSTRAP_DIR to where the debootstrap scripts are and execute the downloaded debootstrap: https://github.com/Daniel-Abrecht/librem5-image-builder/blob/master/chroot-build-helper/real-makefile#L4414:39
parazydI'm not here to bikeshed14:39
ShorTiei'd think you would have to get Debian to put some kind of variable in to be able to pick the OS you want debootstrap'd14:42
ShorTiemany OS's use thier debootstrap as a base14:42
ShorTienot saying it wouldn't be nice14:45
ShorTiejust saying it might be hard to talk Debian in to it14:46
LeePenparazyd: Seems like a good idea.14:55
parazydLeePen: Ok. I submitted an ITP so we'll see15:05
parazydhttps://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=97404815:05
masonparazyd: Thanks for doing that, re debootstrap. Having to transplant our local debootstrap has been occasionally tedious.16:02
parazydI bet :)16:08
gnu_srs1LeePen: Seems like there is no branch for chimaera for eudev. ceres i.e. unstable has: 3.2.5 merged from suites/unstable 2 years ago. While unstable is at 3.2.9-8??20:13
LeePengnu_srs1: You don't need a separate chimaera branch. We don't rebuild for testing, britney controls testing migrations.20:14
LeePenhttps://pkgmaster.devuan.org/britney/chimaera/excuses.html20:14

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