Centurion_Dan | Hey, can anyone tell me why LVM was dropped from the beowulf installer? I tried to do an install and no option to use LVM in the partitioner at all even after installing the lvm package. | 02:57 |
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fsmithred | Which iso? I've done a few lvm beowulf installs. | 03:00 |
golinux | Centurion_Dan: https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/beowulf/full-disk-encryption | 03:03 |
golinux | It's in the documentation | 03:03 |
mason | Centurion_Dan: Are you saying it's missing from the manual partitioning menu? | 03:06 |
mason | (I only do debootstrap installs, so I tend not to see the installer, which doesn't help catch this sort of thing, I realize.) | 03:06 |
golinux | There are screenshots in the link above in the installer | 03:09 |
Centurion_Dan | @golinux - I only get the "guided - use entire disk" option and none of the installer options. | 03:09 |
Centurion_Dan | I've not had problems previously... | 03:09 |
fsmithred | which iso? | 03:10 |
mason | Centurion_Dan: Are you saying there's no manual partitioning option? | 03:10 |
mason | Or, implying, I guess? | 03:10 |
golinux | No one else has mentioned a problem and the sreenshots prove that it's there. | 03:10 |
Centurion_Dan | there is, but no option for setting up LVM... | 03:11 |
mason | hrm | 03:11 |
Centurion_Dan | not even in manual mode... | 03:11 |
mason | Centurion_Dan: Which ISO are you using? I'll snag a copy just to be a second set of eyes. | 03:11 |
fsmithred | Use as: | 03:11 |
mason | Although I believe you. | 03:11 |
golinux | Did you look at that link that I posted? Any of that look familiar? | 03:12 |
Centurion_Dan | http://tux.rainside.sk/devuan/devuan_beowulf/installer-iso/devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_amd64-netinstall.iso | 03:12 |
Centurion_Dan | yes, and that's not what I see... | 03:12 |
Centurion_Dan | be really good if we could identify the geolocation of each of the mirrors too so people can select the local one. I really should mirror that for NZ too... | 03:13 |
mason | Mm, it'll be a bit of a lengthy download. It's offering me under 100K/s. Can you tell me if yours matches this, to save the download? | 03:13 |
mason | $ md5sum devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_amd64-netinstall.iso | 03:13 |
mason | 20f99fb6e126029ed6c475a8e67c6120 devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_amd64-netinstall.iso | 03:13 |
mason | If it matches, I can test immediately. | 03:14 |
mason | Centurion_Dan: ^ sorry, forgot to tag you | 03:14 |
Centurion_Dan | yes md5sum matches. | 03:15 |
golinux | Sorry, I can't help with debugging | 03:15 |
Centurion_Dan | I'm going to try that install again... | 03:15 |
golinux | Hope you figure it out. | 03:15 |
mason | Centurion_Dan: kk, I'll fire one up too | 03:15 |
onefang | We have country and country codes in the package mirror list at least. | 03:15 |
mason | trying normal install first, then will try an expert mode | 03:17 |
Centurion_Dan | actually onefang, they were all dropped - I asked to about NZ recently for my mirror (currently located on my Talos II buildhost) | 03:17 |
onefang | What was dropped? | 03:18 |
mason | Centurion_Dan: Normal install, I see the expected menu - guided / use entire, guided / use entire and set up lvm, guided / use entire and set up encrypted lvm | 03:19 |
mason | will reboot and try expert | 03:19 |
Centurion_Dan | i alwys do expert | 03:20 |
fsmithred | doesn't matter for partitioning | 03:21 |
mason | Centurion_Dan: Fascinating. So, yeah, no LVM, no LUKS, nothing when I install in expert mode. | 03:21 |
fsmithred | select a partition | 03:21 |
mason | Centurion_Dan: I didn't check to see if the LVM is actually working in non-expert. | 03:21 |
fsmithred | Use as: whatefer they call it for lvm | 03:21 |
mason | Centurion_Dan: In fact, only ext3, fat16, fat32, swap available for partitions. The image is clearled borqued. | 03:22 |
mason | Centurion_Dan: I'll go back to non-expert and see if it actually installs LVM | 03:23 |
Centurion_Dan | interesting ... and i always use expert to be able to continue the installs via ssh.... | 03:23 |
mason | Yar, ssh and debootstrap here. Hrm. I need to start testing actual ISOs. | 03:23 |
Centurion_Dan | probaly time i set up a tftp server and pxeboot | 03:24 |
mason | (I tend to use fsmithred's live CD as a base to install.) | 03:24 |
mason | That works too. | 03:24 |
mason | My favourite lately: IPMI and virtual media \o/ | 03:25 |
fsmithred | hm, my 3.0 netinstall iso has a different checksum | 03:27 |
fsmithred | and it has lvm | 03:27 |
fsmithred | in manual parititoning | 03:27 |
mason | fsmithred: in expert mode? | 03:27 |
fsmithred | yes | 03:27 |
fsmithred | sha256sum: 5844e45dc6421c25dfc9fb25df9d57af8fadf12a97a2a4e0ae1931c4c3217523 | 03:27 |
mason | fsmithred: checksum or md5sum? | 03:27 |
fsmithred | 3.0.0 netinstsall amd64 | 03:28 |
mason | oh, try md5sum | 03:28 |
fsmithred | that looks more like yours | 03:28 |
fsmithred | 20f99fb6e126029ed6c475a8e67c6120 | 03:28 |
mason | That's the one. | 03:28 |
fsmithred | manual parititoing | 03:28 |
fsmithred | select a partition | 03:28 |
Centurion_Dan | ok this time it succeeds using the same image. maybe it's because last time I booted efi and this time legacy... | 03:28 |
fsmithred | use as | 03:29 |
fsmithred | rebooting | 03:29 |
mason | Centurion_Dan: I started off legacy. | 03:29 |
mason | Centurion_Dan: This is in a VM, but that shouldn't really matter. | 03:29 |
mason | brb, still working through work stuff | 03:29 |
Centurion_Dan | seems to be installing fine now... | 03:32 |
fsmithred | Centurion_Dan, are you booting from optical media? | 03:34 |
Centurion_Dan | fsmithred - no, usb flashdrive | 03:35 |
Centurion_Dan | fwiw, I've started pushing Devuan as a viable OS for those that care about security and those that hate windows and macOSX, and I'm getting traction. I think with the new US administration and the threat of much more invasive tracking of people considered to be suffering wrongthink being a likely outcome of the divisive election and recent events... | 03:36 |
Centurion_Dan | HP Elitebooks work pretty well with the only real tweaking for hardware support is an updated mapping for Fn keys (I can provide a patch for that). | 03:38 |
mason | So, build a wall, but of a digital nature. I see, I see. | 03:42 |
Centurion_Dan | can't trust microsoft or apple, so using linux with a private (not gmail) host, duckduckgo for search, gab.com for social media (that's really taken off in the last week) and a few other choices significantly reduce the amount of metadata that can be harvested.... | 03:45 |
mason | Gab... I'm starting to see a pattern. =cough= | 03:46 |
mason | I'm hoping to get into Mastodon, myself. | 03:46 |
mason | Haven't had time to set up a server yet. | 03:46 |
rrq | Centurion_Dan: nz.deb.devuan.org is the only country code that resolves to something else than the round robin; cname for deb.devuan.nz in dns | 03:47 |
Centurion_Dan | the next step will be to build an easy to deploy small business server like setup that includes firewall, dns resolver, and email server. | 03:48 |
mason | Centurion_Dan: Have you looked at what FreedomBox does? That's sort of up that alley. | 03:48 |
Centurion_Dan | mason - yep pretty much along freedom box lines but using Devuan as the base. | 03:49 |
onefang | Ohh, Centurion_Dan meant the CC.devuan.org names where dropped. I understand now. | 03:50 |
mason | Centurion_Dan: I'd like to see such a thing that makes use of HAM or similar. My only issue with FreedomBox is that it doesn't bridge distances. | 03:50 |
Centurion_Dan | rrq - so that's implemented then? I never head back that you actuall added that record. | 03:50 |
rrq | yes it's on | 03:51 |
rrq | line | 03:51 |
Centurion_Dan | mason, you mean a HAM radio link? | 03:51 |
mason | Centurion_Dan: Or something. No encryption over HAM is an issue. | 03:52 |
Centurion_Dan | rrq - can you test it, I had a UPS fail at home that took that server offline for a day. Batteries had collapsed. | 03:53 |
rrq | http://nz.deb.devuan.org/devuan looks like a repo :) | 03:55 |
rrq | and /merged as well | 03:55 |
rrq | uptodate | 03:55 |
rrq | though it's missing the codenames (?) jessie, ascii, beowulf chimaera | 03:57 |
rrq | ah no sorry they are there under merged/dists of course | 03:57 |
* rrq running an netinstall trial against it | 04:02 | |
rrq | seems happy enough :) | 04:07 |
rrq | Centurion_Dan: worked fine, and fast | 04:29 |
golinux | deop #devuan-dev golinux | 04:36 |
golinux | op #devuan-dev golinux | 04:37 |
golinux | /me doesn't have very good op skills | 04:39 |
yeti | been there | 04:46 |
yeti | prost! c\_/ (tea) | 04:47 |
Centurion_Dan | rrq: Awesome ;-) | 04:54 |
emdete | Hi, is there something like a meta-package to transmogrify a devuan (x11, i3, ...) to a devuan with mate desktop with a (more or less) single `apt install ..`? | 12:04 |
Joril | well there's task-mate-desktop | 12:06 |
emdete | Joril: ah, ok, i need tasksel for that to work, right? | 12:30 |
gnu_srs2 | emdete: No, you just apt-get install task-mate-desktop | 13:25 |
clemens3 | https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2021/01/20/devuan-on-arm-beowulf-on-rockpro64/ | 14:18 |
Joril | I see that Plymouth is a "banned" package, is this simply because on Debian it depends on systemd, or because it CANNOT work without systemd anymore? (the deb still contains the /etc/init.d/plymouth) | 16:50 |
fsmithred | Joril, last I heard, parazyd is working on plymouth | 16:52 |
fsmithred | 0.9.5-2+devuan2 is in chimaera/ceres | 16:52 |
fsmithred | Thanks for reminding me I have to look at that to see how it works with desktop-base | 16:53 |
Joril | Nice! I'll try it right away, thanks :) | 16:54 |
Joril | On Beowulf it breaks mawk, sigh | 17:09 |
fsmithred | what??? | 17:35 |
fsmithred | Holy shit that's an understatement. | 17:37 |
fsmithred | open: 7045; closed: 11314; defer: 122; conflict: 168 ONo solution found within the allotted time. Try harder? [Y/n] | 17:37 |
fsmithred | looks like python is the problem | 17:37 |
Joril | What do you mean? There's a "breaks mawk << 1.3.4" inside deb/control | 17:39 |
fsmithred | I mean I got about 100 lines of output from 'aptitude -s -t chimaera install plymouth' | 17:40 |
Joril | Wow :D | 17:40 |
Joril | (sorry got to go, bye!) | 17:41 |
parazyd | fsmithred: There's still work I have to do on it | 20:06 |
Centurion_Dan | Hi parazyd | 22:28 |
parazyd | Hey | 22:29 |
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