libera/#devuan-dev/ Thursday, 2021-01-28

Jjp137rrq, with the 3.1.0-RC amd64 desktop DVD iso and no network connection, selecting KDE during the tasksel step and proceeding results in an error message08:40
Jjp137screenshot I guess: https://transfer.sh/lu7LF/kde_install_beowulf_3.1.0-RC.png08:40
Jjp137well that's the fourth console; back on the installer it's that screen with the red background08:41
rrqta.. checking..09:20
rrqJjp137: hmm the package "kde-standard" is there ... it's not that the disk is small?09:26
Jjp137hm let me resize it just to make sure (it's a VM of course)09:27
rrqI'll run a trial as well to check... you selected "desktop" + kde + standard ?09:29
Jjp137basically I picked what was already selected + KDE09:30
rrqok same issue here...09:34
rrq.. looks like a bit of dependency forest behind kde-standard ...09:45
rrqincluding eg gstreamer1.0-pulsaudio which is not in the pool .. hmm09:47
Jjp137yeah I can only imagine just how much KDE depends on09:53
rrqhmm gstreamer1.0-pulsaudio is in the package packing list but not in the pool?? that's peculiar09:55
rrq(gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio)09:59
rrqthanks. I've logged a bug for this (should be critical)10:29
bgstack15Wow, dumb question, but where/what package are the Devuan background images?19:13
bgstack15I don't want the Xfce background; I want a Devuan one!19:13
masonA dev-one-one19:20
fsmithredthey go in desktop-base19:21
fsmithredbgstack15, https://git.devuan.org/devuan/desktop-base/src/branch/master/backgrounds19:22
bgstack15Thank yoU!19:24
golinuxfsmithred: Have you put deepsea wallpaper in ther yet?19:32
golinux(Too lazy to look)19:32
golinuxBut I did anyway . . . looks like the theme is there but not quite completed as you know.  All the radio buttons and checkboxes etc. need recoloring and there are 90 0f them19:35
golinuxhttps://git.devuan.org/fsmithred/clearlooks-phenix-deepsea-theme19:35
fsmithredgolinux, wallpaper does not go in the theme19:39
fsmithredit goes in desktop-base19:39
fsmithredand I haven't touched that yet19:39
fsmithredgolinux, for the theme, debian/master branch does not change. Look at suites/unstable19:40
golinuxI know where the wallpapers go.  Would be nice to have them there by meet time.19:42
fsmithredlol19:44
fsmithredyou want me to prepare desktop-base in the next hour or two?19:44
fsmithredcan I have grub theme and slim theme?19:45
golinuxIsn't there just a slot to put them in?19:45
fsmithredI have to see what xfce does with its configs, too19:45
golinuxI wasn't suggesting you do all of desktop base.19:46
fsmithredprobably, but I don't want to start messing with it now19:46
fsmithredI have not touched it since git migration, so it's still on old origin.19:46
golinuxNP19:46
fsmithredProbably should just re-clone19:46
golinuxfsmithred: https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documentation/src/branch/master/art/graphics/chimaera-deepsea20:14
fsmithredoh, good. I assume those are the ones you want me to use. The ones you sent me had different names.20:21
golinuxNo they have the same names20:24
golinuxFrom the same directory that I ziped up20:24
fsmithreddarkpurpy2deepsea...?20:28
bb|hcbhave anyone tested pipewire? (pulseaudio and jack drop-in replacement)20:28
bb|hcbi have just installed it; wouldn't bother if pulseaudio haven20:30
fsmithredsomeone mentioned pipewire recently20:30
bb|hcbhaven't stopped working, and my sound magically came back. the only drawback I see is that there are only systemd units20:30
fsmithreddoes it need to be run as a service, or can you just run it when you need it?20:32
fsmithredor start it some other way20:32
golinuxfsmithred: Huh?20:33
fsmithredtalking to bb|hcb20:33
fsmithredor are you asking about the file names20:33
bb|hcbbesides being too new, everything i read about it looks quite promising; there is a proposal in fedora to adopt it as a default sound system20:33
golinuxbb|hcb: Maybe not so much: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=408220:37
golinuxfsmithred: darkpurpy2deepsea was one of my working files during development20:40
fsmithredthat's one of the files you sent me along with a bunch of other stuff in 01old and 03beast...20:40
fsmithredbut not the ones you just uploaded20:40
golinuxI sent you a tar.gz with the final versions yesterday20:41
fsmithredand bgstack15 should look at this one, too. There's more: https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documentation/src/branch/master/art/graphics/chimaera-deepsea20:41
fsmithredoh, go up one level20:41
golinuxI should have put them in a separate directory.  Just not thinking it through20:43
bb|hcbfsmithred: not too sure; there is definitely a daemon part and client libs (abi compatible with what they replace) maybe the daemon is socket activated?20:44
fsmithred$ find ./wallpaper/ -name "*your-way*"20:46
fsmithred./wallpaper/your-way_cinnabar-wide-large.png20:46
fsmithred./wallpaper/your-way_darkpurpy-narrow-large2DS.svg20:46
golinuxOh I must have snagged the wrong tar.gz20:48
fsmithredI think so20:48
* golinux is nearly unfit to use a computer these days.20:48
golinuxI'll try again.20:48
golinuxBetter?20:52
fsmithredyeah20:59
fsmithredthanks20:59
bb|hcbgolinux: yep, when it comes unwanted, that would be quite annoying; to me pipewire looks much less crappy than pulseaudio, the drawback i see is that its too new and is packaged for systemd, luckily it works on devuan, so maybe not too much tweaking is needed to make it work out of the box (i started it manually and prefer not to reboot now - many open windows)21:01
emdeteit seems `change-username` has a bug while replacing the homdir in config files: sed complains about missing files which filenames contain blanks - is that knnown?21:53
emdeteand changing the geckos doesnt work either, the method looks dangerous: `sed -i~ "s/$live_user/$real_name,,,/" /etc/passwd` - my live_user was empty...22:00

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