parazyd | gnu_srs1: When adding users/groups through postinst, you can always "|| true" | 00:01 |
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parazyd | I think this is ok | 00:01 |
parazyd | gnu_srs1: The only difference between "system" groups and "regular" ones is that regular ones are usually GID > 1000 and system ones are GID < 1000 | 00:02 |
parazyd | There is no other difference, and the sheer existence of the group should be enough in the usecase, so you're fine with "addgroup || true". | 00:03 |
rrq | gnu_srs1: I kind of agree with parazyd that eudev should require the groups to exist but not require them to be system groups, though add them as such if not added | 01:04 |
rrq | there's no real possibility of eudev badness from that is there? | 01:07 |
bgstack15 | I have just found a project that builds a gtk3 module that re-enables the gtk3 mnemonics so you can configure a gtk3 theme to use "gtk-auto-mnemonics = 0" which makes all the underscores visible all the time. | 13:47 |
bgstack15 | I think this project could be included in Devuan. What do you guys think? | 13:47 |
bgstack15 | https://github.com/thesquash/sgm | 13:48 |
fsmithred | what underscores? | 13:50 |
bgstack15 | the underscores in menus and on buttons, that indicate which letter is the accelerator key, so that ALT+A presses the "_Apply" button | 14:25 |
bgstack15 | This used to be an option on gtk3 but was removed a long time ago, and now it's just a hard-coded delay of 300ms of pressing ALT before the underscores are revealed. | 14:26 |
bgstack15 | I'm shocked that gtk3 removed the ability to configure to show these all the time, because they're keyboard-friendly, as well as some could argue an accessibility feature. | 14:26 |
fsmithred | you missed a step. After you press Alt, you still need to move the cursor off the menu bar and onto the menu. I hadn't even noticed the problem because I don't use the key commands and I use mostly gtk2 apps, I guess. | 14:29 |
fsmithred | don't be shocked that gtk would fuck over their users. They haven't been shy about doing it to other devs. | 14:30 |
fsmithred | ah, it works better if I don't use the mouse. | 14:32 |
fsmithred | In their quest to "clean up" the appearance, they will eventually remove all markings and you will be left with a blank page that's operated by a touch screen. | 14:34 |
parazyd | fsmithred: Sad but true | 15:33 |
scoofy | there's hardly much improvement in UI usability in the last 10-15 years... | 15:44 |
adam_free2air | pinging fsmithred re: rpi0-4 sd card images of beowulf are ready to trial on arm-images.devuan.org | 19:19 |
mason | Today is crazy, and I won't be able to attend the meeting. Sorry for the short notice. | 21:16 |
fsmithred | I'll be there in a minute or two | 21:38 |
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