libera/#devuan-dev/ Friday, 2021-04-23

LeePenfsmithred: saw your note from the meet about the tasks switching from wicd to nm.11:45
LeePenHave you tried connman?11:45
LeePenHas anybody tried connman?11:46
Unit193If you do, try cmst.  I packaged it long ago as it was the best UI for connman, though it is Qt5...11:46
Unit193I have an updated version of it with VPN support, but I don't have access to the lxqt-team on salsa so can't push and upload..11:47
LeePenUnit193: OK. Thanks11:47
LeePenUnit193: Have you ever tried connman-gtk?11:49
Unit193I thought so, but it only appeared in 2019 which is way after my trial.  So either I didn't, or packaged it and dumped it as it was awful.11:50
bgstack15Unit193, than you for your thoughts! We did discuss connman but I've never heard of cmst. I'm a connman fan when wicd isn't available. fsmithred estimated that Network Manager is what would be preferred by people who merely choose "task-desktop-xfce" or similar.13:37
bgstack15I use connman-gtk over connman-ui, but maybe I'll have to try cmst.13:38
fsmithredcmst is default for either kde or lxqt. I forget which.13:39
bgstack15I generally prefer gtk things but I do like the Qt-based CopyQ.13:43
fsmithredHere's more info that I did not include in yesterday's notes:13:49
fsmithredtask-kde-desktopRecommends: plasma-nm13:49
fsmithredtask-lxqt-desktopnone13:49
fsmithredtask-lxde-desktopnone13:50
fsmithredlxdeDepends: wicd | network-manager-gnome13:50
fsmithredlxqtRecommends: cmst | nm-tray | network-manager-gnome | plasma-nm | wicd13:50
fsmithredI'm trying connman now (again). I don't remember what I didn't like about it when I tried it before.13:52
bgstack15It is finicky about actually "starting off in system tray"14:21
bgstack15also, it wants to take over your resolv.conf unless you drop DAEMON_OPTS="-r" in /etc/defaults/connman14:21
fsmithredI had to add 'connman-ui-gtk' to my startup apps to get it into the tray in xfce.14:43
fsmithredalso, need to install connman-gtk if you want 'Connman settings' in the menu.14:44
fsmithredhi LeePen. Did you read the last few minutes of the log?14:44
fsmithreduh... last hour.14:44
LeePenI'll check the backlog14:45
fsmithredI need to go make breakfast. Back in a bit.14:45
LeePenMaybe we go for network-manager-gnome | connman-gtk?14:48
LeePenThat way anybody who really want to avoid nm has options.14:49
LeePenOr even network-manager-gnome | connman-gtk | cmst ?14:49
bgstack15oh and fsmithred: yeah, I remember that connman-gtk doesn't provide a /etc/xdg/autostart/ entry, so I wrote one for myself. Maybe we should stick that package in devuan?14:59
bgstack15https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:bgstack15/connman-gtk-xdg-autostart15:00
fsmithredyes to multiple options for the deps. I have to go out. bbl.15:19
LeePenUpdated tasksel building now.19:27
LeePenFixed #533 (I think).19:28
LeePenAlso added connman-gtk and cmst as alternatives to nm for xfce.19:28
LeePenI presume Gnome and MATE users are happy with nm ;)19:29
golinuxWe checked the popcon stats yesterday and nm had most installs20:06

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