libera/#devuan/ Monday, 2018-06-04

xrogaanmicrosoft seems to have acquired github. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-03/microsoft-is-said-to-have-agreed-to-acquire-coding-site-github01:47
squeakypancakesLet the exodus to gitlab begin01:58
gnarfacethe funniest part to me is how now sourceforge is all like "yay we're the good guys now!"02:01
gnarfacei'm pretty sure anyone who was listening knew i thought github was a trap all along though02:02
xrogaanwell github did tickle people to provide better hosting platforms. Because of github we have gitlab and a better bitbucket.02:03
squeakypancakesIt's funny cuz like a week ago I saw a video on how the open source community should move off of github.02:06
xrogaan:D02:07
_abc_Hello. fsmithred? I have a predicament. I would like to install the latest pronterface, scad, slic3er on a machine which is locked on wheezy, it's the live disk install from linuxccnc.org. That relies on their real time extensions and there is no way I can change19:02
_abc_that19:02
_abc_What would you recommend I do? Compile from source? Do some hairy repo enable in sources.config ?19:02
_abc_The only clean option I see for now is dual boot setup for the machine, with some recent version of devuan as one option, and the linuxcnc wheezy with rtai kernel the other.19:03
_abc_http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/getting-started/getting-linuxcnc.html # 7. it seems to work on ubuntu versions post-wheezy. Does this mean there is a chance to use packages which are ascii+ (stretch+=) vintage on it?19:06
fsmithred_abc_, dual boot sounds safer than messing with a wheezy that you must keep19:11
fsmithredwheezy support just expired last month, I think19:12
_abc_You have got to be sh*ing me. m$ bought github!19:36
_abc_fsmithred: yeah I am aware of bad chemistry19:36
_abc_Eventually I'll rebuild the rtai ystem under devuan, some day, for now, dual boot looks great.19:36
FerviHello, do you have problem with Ledger Nano S on Devuan Ceres?20:33
Fervidmesg recognize, lsusb not (empty label), software don't recognize; I installed ledger-wallet-udev and scripts from ledger website, but nothing :/20:34
Fervioh sorry, i am idiot :D20:36
xrogaansince I moved from pkgmaster to auto.mirror, apt-file returns this error: E: The cache is empty. You need to run "apt update" first.21:05
xrogaanI don't understand why.21:06
golinuxxrogaan: Shouldn't you be going from auto.mirror to pkgmaster?21:16
xrogaanis that so?21:20
KatolaZxrogaan: auto.mirror does not have Contents files21:42
KatolaZyou should use pkgmaster21:42
xrogaanalright then21:43
KatolaZxrogaan: or rather deb.devuan.org21:44
KatolaZwhich is a set of 14 mirrors21:45
_abc_fsmithred: can I use refractainstaller in "reverse" to put a hdd running system onto a persistence volume on a usb stick?22:53
_abc_fsmithred: asuming I booted from the stick, to make the union mount look reasonable22:53
fsmithred_abc_, I think you can just use rsync for that22:54
fsmithredhave to think about that one a little more22:54
_abc_True. But with a lot ot tinkering with exclude lists I think.22:55
fsmithredyou just want the home?22:55
fsmithredor the OS, too?22:55
_abc_I want especially the os installed apps22:55
_abc_home is easy22:55
_abc_ascii is ~= stretch?22:55
fsmithredthen you want to use refractasnapshot to make your own live iso from the installed system22:55
_abc_as update level?22:55
fsmithredyes, ascii uses stretch packages22:55
_abc_fsmithred: ah okay refractasnapshot.22:56
fsmithredand it has its own excludes file22:56
_abc_sure22:56
fsmithredwhich is a lot more extensive than the installer's22:56
fsmithredand look over the config file. Lots of stuff there.22:57
_abc_sure, thanks22:59
fsmithredkeep the image under 4GB or it fails22:59
_abc_Oh? Why?23:00
fsmithredalthough, if it fails, you can still copy the files to a usb23:00
fsmithredlimit on iso size23:00
_abc_oh23:00
_abc_Wait, I would like to copy into the presistence system, not into the iso. I.e. this is not a remaster23:00
_abc_I guess I'll look hard into rsync and exclusion lists23:00
_abc_refacta*'s too23:01
fsmithredso you don't want to change your read-only system?23:01
_abc_thanks for the tips, will go zzz a bit now23:01
_abc_fsmithred: not yet. I need a 'portable' 1:1 system of my desktop23:01
_abc_in the form of a live boot + persistence.23:01
fsmithredyeah, but you don't want the OS on the hdd to be the base OS on the stick?23:01
fsmithredrefractasnapshot will turn your installed system into a live iso23:02
_abc_It was already installed with refracta from said stick so it's the same one barring updates here and there ;)23:02
fsmithredok23:02
_abc_But I need a simpler way to do this than tinker endlessly with gui installers, meaning, wicked 5 line script23:02
fsmithredstill might be easier to start fresh23:02
_abc_Well it sort of is "fresh" since the ro iso in sdb1 in the stick is the oem unmodified devuan ascii desktop23:03
_abc_So rsync is the way, probably23:03
fsmithredit can be done. installer and snapshot are about 20 commands if you remove all the fluff23:03
_abc_I realize, yes. I'm just asking to try and not omit anything stupid.23:04
fsmithredwait, one system is refracta and the other devuan?23:05
_abc_no, both are the same devuan ascii23:10
msiismso much for being able to build the iridium browser from source on Devuan: https://github.com/iridium-browser/tracker/issues/19823:26
aitorhuh, github has been bought by Microsoft23:44
MinceRindeed23:45
aitortoday23:45
MinceRhence  https://monitor.gitlab.net/dashboard/db/github-importer?orgId=123:45

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