| aitor | hi, mtnman, i was greeting to g4560n, we are in the #devuan-mx channel | 00:25 |
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| aitor | g4570n* | 00:30 |
| mtnman | what is -mx for? | 00:30 |
| g4570n | hi | 00:30 |
| g4570n | es for spanish is abandoned, mx is now uses for spanish comunity | 00:31 |
| mtnman | g4570n my spanish is poor so i will not be joining but gracias for the invitacion. | 00:50 |
| g4570n | de nada :) | 00:51 |
| mtnman | anyone know the default password for user devuan on the arm images? | 01:02 |
| mtnman | nevermind... logged in as root and will change password. | 01:03 |
| mtnman | ah! there is no user devuan | 01:04 |
| golinux_ | mtnman: Have you looked at this? https://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii/embedded/README.txt | 01:49 |
| mtnman | i did read that a few days ago | 01:49 |
| golinux_ | OK | 01:50 |
| mtnman | good news is i now have two machines running devuan | 01:51 |
| golinux | Congrats! | 01:52 |
| mtnman | the trickiest part was getting usb networking running on the beagebone without a monitor | 01:53 |
| * mtnman is almost ready to upgrade from live boot to disk installation. | 01:54 | |
| mtnman | i enabled ip forwarding on gateway (box1) and did "route add default gw {address-of-gateway-box} on box2 but cannot access internet from box2. did i miss something? | 02:19 |
| crimson_king | Hi folks. On a fresh ASCII install, I tried to git clone a github repository via ssh but it failed with "permission denied(public key)". Since this worked on a fresh Debian Stretch install, I'm assuming it is related to Devuan somehow. More info: .ssh folder is drwx------, while private keys are -rw------- and public keys are -rw-r--r-- | 03:28 |
| Acacia | crimson_king: it most likely means your public key isn't in the list of allowed keys in the ssh server | 03:29 |
| crimson_king | Acacia, strange, I used it just yesterday. I keep distrohopping and restoring these keys all the time. | 03:30 |
| gnarface | i note you checked the permissions | 03:32 |
| gnarface | but what about user and group ownership of those files? | 03:32 |
| gnarface | you said you copied them from another distro, did you remember to change the uid and gid of the files? | 03:32 |
| crimson_king | gnarface, the .ssh folder and its files belong to my user and my group. | 03:37 |
| crimson_king | funny, my gitlab key worked | 03:40 |
| gnarface | hmmm | 03:43 |
| gnarface | maybe it is on their end then | 03:43 |
| gnarface | though i suppose if the key is old enough, there could have been a format change or something and its not working anymore | 03:43 |
| crimson_king | yeah, I might just generate a new one | 03:44 |
| gnarface | i do vaguely recall that being a problem semi-recently (within the last 5 years) with a really old key... (probably 20 years old) | 03:44 |
| gnarface | if i'm remembering the issue right, the format change was one that was visually distinct | 03:44 |
| gnarface | as in, you could LOOK at the key in plain text and see that it was too old to work | 03:44 |
| crimson_king | interesting.. | 03:45 |
| gnarface | but i would expect that "ssh -v -v -v ..." would give some complaint about it in that case too | 03:45 |
| gnarface | they also may have simply stopped allowing keys shorter than a certain byte-length | 03:46 |
| gnarface | i would expect verbose ssh execution to give some contextual complaint about that too, though | 03:46 |
| TheBlueWizard | hiya all...when I insert the USB drive in, it doesn't seem to recognize the drive...any idea why? I'm looking at menu > settings > rem. drives and media and I see no checkmarks are being set....is that why? | 05:27 |
| * TheBlueWizard discovers an online help, and is now reading it :-) | 05:38 | |
| xrogaan | /etc/pam.d/lightdm-greeter as a line `session optional pam_systemd.so' which obviously will generate an error or warning in the logs. | 05:57 |
| eyalroz | BCMM: So, you're here too, then? | 12:37 |
| eyalroz | Well, let's try this channel. I'm having a keyboard layout issue: https://superuser.com/questions/1338196/ | 12:45 |
| eyalroz | Essentially, some X apps don't accept Hebrew characters, others do. | 12:46 |
| eyalroz | So when I'm in the `il` keyboard layout, spaces and punctuation marks register, but characters don't. But there's no clear rule - or at least not clear to me - as to which apps reject Hebrew characters, and I can't figure out where to look for the source of this issue | 12:47 |
| eyalroz | or what I can do to circumvent it. | 12:47 |
| gnarface | i think that is something that is up to the program creator to support or not | 12:50 |
| gnarface | but in theory it could be a font problem too.. | 12:50 |
| eyalroz | gnarface: But wouldn't that just mean I get junk instead of the correct glyph? | 13:21 |
| eyalroz | Also, it's not just one or two programs, it's dozens | 13:21 |
| eyalroz | so it must be something more fundamental | 13:21 |
| eyalroz | If only I could see some kind of error log... | 13:22 |
| gnarface | it might give you a blank glyph in some cases, but there's no reason to expect programs will accept invalid characters if they know they are invalid | 13:25 |
| gnarface | sure there may also be one or two differently-behaving shared libraries that the misbehaved programs have in common with each other | 13:25 |
| gnarface | i'm sure there's a log but i'm not sure which one | 13:26 |
| gnarface | check in /var/log | 13:26 |
| gnarface | also try running dmesg | 13:26 |
| gnarface | sometimes errors also go to the console X was started from, but they could be redirected elsewhere too | 13:27 |
| gnarface | also sometimes you can get gtk errors dumped to stderr/stdout too | 13:27 |
| eyalroz | gnarface: So, no empty glyphs - deleting a glyph takes me right back to the one before the beginning of the suppose Hebrew char sequence. Also, nothing on stdout or stderr. | 16:36 |
| eyalroz | Nothing in dmesg or syslog - which makes sense, since we're talking about processes without the permission to write there. | 16:38 |
| Beerbelott | Hello | 16:40 |
| Beerbelott | Does anyone know where bash auto-completion for `groups` command comes from? | 16:40 |
| KatolaZ | Beerbelott: /usr/share/bash-completion/bash_completion | 16:53 |
| Beerbelott | That I know. Which file in it? :) | 17:00 |
| KatolaZ | Beerbelott: that one is a file... | 17:01 |
| Beerbelott | OK my bad | 17:02 |
| Beerbelott | I was looking into the completions directory on the side | 17:02 |
| Beerbelott | The question is now... There is the 'standard' groups command which auto-completes w/ users | 17:03 |
| KatolaZ | Beerbelott: have you tried searching for "groups" in that file, for instance? | 17:03 |
| Beerbelott | there also is a 'members' package containing the `members` command, but it does not come with auto-completion | 17:03 |
| Beerbelott | Yes I found it thx | 17:03 |
| Beerbelott | Cool I made a bash completion file for the members command inspired by what is existing for groups :) | 17:08 |
| Beerbelott | I now need to learn how to submit that to the upstream ;) | 17:08 |
| Beerbelott | As simple as `complete -g members` | 17:09 |
| eyalroz | Beerbelott: Two possible places | 17:26 |
| eyalroz | Beerbelott: /usr/share/bash-completion | 17:27 |
| eyalroz | and | 17:27 |
| eyalroz | /etc/bash_completion.d | 17:27 |
| eyalroz | oh, sorry, looks like you got your answer already. | 17:27 |
| Beerbelott | np thx for helping anyway :) | 17:29 |
| Beerbelott | I am going to submit my idea to the maintainer of the package some time 'round | 17:29 |
| fsr | muep_, all the installer isos are bios and uefi bootable. The amd64 desktop-live iso is bios and uefi bootable (and installable) | 20:05 |
| muep_ | good to know | 20:05 |
| fsr | and if you happen to have an old macbook that uses amd64 OS with 32-bit uefi, there's a way to install that, too. | 20:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (ot) new: https://jobs.freenode.net/ | 21:26 |
| nacelle | 32bit uefi/64bit cpu macbooks are great! | 21:30 |
| * nacelle has a few macs that do that | 21:30 | |
| nacelle | core2duo things | 21:30 |
| nacelle | (and I upgraded a 1,1 to a 2,1) | 21:30 |
| fsr | nacelle, how did you install? | 21:43 |
| NewGnuGuy | Does anyone know of a good program for diffing two sqlite databases? | 22:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | diff <(dump1) <(dump2) ? | 22:39 |
| nacelle | fsr: none of them are running devuan, if thats what you're asking | 22:41 |
| fsr | yeah, that's what I was askin | 22:43 |
| nacelle | i imagine reFind would somehow be involved | 22:52 |
| fsr | nacelle, no, you don't need refind | 22:59 |
| nacelle | I believe thats how I do openbsd on the macbook I have | 23:00 |
| nacelle | is it going to be much different than the debian instructions? | 23:02 |
| nacelle | https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Apple/MacBook/2-1 | 23:02 |
| nacelle | apparently theres a grub that does 32bit uefi | 23:02 |
| nacelle | neato | 23:02 |
| fsr | yeah, boot the desktop-live amd64 iso... | 23:02 |
| nacelle | cool | 23:03 |
| fsr | then install grub-efi-ia32 but don't let it install the bootloade | 23:03 |
| fsr | then run the installer | 23:03 |
| fsr | I think it'll work that way | 23:03 |
| fsr | other way is to run the installer first, then install the package in chroot | 23:03 |
| fsr | the deb is in the root of the filesystem | 23:03 |
| fsr | and all the grub*-bin packages are installed already | 23:04 |
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