aitor | moin | 09:55 |
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aitor | i pushed a new commit of simple-netaid: | 09:56 |
aitor | https://git.devuan.org/aitor_czr/simple-netaid-gtk.git | 09:56 |
aitor | i did a "C" linkage for the backend, and now it's possible to use netinfo(0)/netinfo(1) for the wired/wireless network devices, even being something like wlx2824ff1a1794 | 09:58 |
aitor | i added extern "C" { gchar *netinfo(int) } to the headers of the GUI | 09:59 |
aitor | ./backend 0 0 -> will give you the name of the wired device | 10:30 |
aitor | ./backend 0 1 -> will give you the name of the wireless device | 10:31 |
aitor | ./backend 0 2 -> will give you a detailed info about the network connection, it will also say you if the wire is plugged/unplugged (not depending on ifplugd or netplugd); this will be useful for the automatically connect option | 10:32 |
aitor | ./backend 1 -> lists all the available active wifis | 10:33 |
aitor | btw, congrats to jaromil for his thesis "Algorithmic Sovereignty" | 10:39 |
aitor | i'll be back in a few minuts | 10:39 |
aitor | hi again | 11:37 |
Woodi | hi | 11:53 |
Woodi | netaid require root ? | 11:53 |
Woodi | looking for something simpler then wicd and usable from non-root account | 11:54 |
aitor | hi, Woodi | 11:59 |
aitor | the backend has suid permissions | 11:59 |
aitor | all of the functions included in netstat.c and iproute.c don't require root permissions, but, if you run the scan_active_wifis() as a mortal user (using KatolaZ's words) you will get only the information concerning to the wifi which you are connected | 12:03 |
aitor | the backend will also depend on wpa_suplicant and ip (ip link set <device_name> up/down), that is, iproute2; and also isc-dhcp-client for the connection attempts (dhclient <device_name>) | 12:06 |
aitor | those functions require root permissions | 12:07 |
aitor | the backend will receive a fifo sent from the frontend, including the essid and the password for the wireless connection | 12:08 |
aitor | simple-netaid fixes an existent bug in the netstat icon of wicd | 12:08 |
aitor | and also removes its dependency on dbus | 12:09 |
aitor | you can reproduce this bug in the netstat icon of wicd by the following way: | 12:10 |
aitor | # wpa_passphrase <device_name> <password> | 12:10 |
aitor | # wpa_supplicant -B -i<device_name> -c<config_file> | 12:11 |
aitor | # dhclient <device_name> | 12:12 |
aitor | now, you will be connected to this network device | 12:12 |
aitor | after that, bring down and bring up this device, using iproutes features: | 12:13 |
aitor | # ip link set <device_name> down | 12:13 |
aitor | # ip link set <device_name> up | 12:13 |
aitor | the debian branch of simple-netaid-gtk is still a work in progress, and git-buildpackage will not work | 12:15 |
aitor | you need to run the "build" script | 12:16 |
aitor | you also need to install libiw-dev and cmake | 12:18 |
aitor | it would be interesting to test it with KfreeBSD, does iproute2 exist in this other kernel? | 12:21 |
aitor | and netlink? | 12:21 |
Woodi | wow, thanx :) | 12:23 |
aitor | hope this help :) | 12:24 |
aitor | i'll include it in gnuinos | 12:25 |
aitor | as jaromil announced in twitter, made with love.. | 12:25 |
Woodi | will try sources, on debian. but my next installation is planned devuan ! | 12:25 |
aitor | dear jaromil :) | 12:25 |
aitor | need to go, bbl | 12:26 |
hiya | hey I was told Stretch version if out? | 13:03 |
hiya | is* | 13:03 |
hiya | Can someone send me screenshot of homescreen? | 13:04 |
hiya | How much RAM does it use vs Gnome Debian Stretch? | 13:04 |
fsmithred | hiya, gnome uses about twice as much ram as xfce. Shouldn't matter whether it's debian, devuan or some other linux. | 13:13 |
hiya | fsmithred, Can I use service command or even that is gone? | 13:13 |
hiya | systemctl doesn't exist right? | 13:13 |
fsmithred | right, and yes, you can use the service command | 13:13 |
hiya | ok | 13:14 |
hiya | Thanks :D | 13:14 |
hiya | I download live ISO and check | 13:14 |
fsmithred | ascii=stretch | 13:14 |
hiya | I am coming from PureOS | 13:14 |
hiya | which is debian testing | 13:14 |
fsmithred | O dpm | 13:14 |
hiya | but Stretch will go | 13:14 |
hiya | do* | 13:14 |
hiya | I need something light weight for my laptop | 13:14 |
hiya | XFCE = good choice by default | 13:14 |
hiya | I love you guys | 13:14 |
fsmithred | thanks | 13:14 |
hiya | i will give my next few donations to you directly i promise. | 13:15 |
fsmithred | I remember a few years ago, debian had a point release that had xfce as the default. | 13:15 |
hiya | Debian had XFCE by default? | 13:15 |
fsmithred | lot of people thought it was a great move, but debian treated it like a mistake | 13:15 |
hiya | XFCE = nice and easy | 13:15 |
fsmithred | something to be said for using a UI that's been in use for more than 20 years | 13:16 |
hiya | I love Gnome more, but it leaves no RAM and I have found that I don't like use Gnome, I use Apps | 13:17 |
hiya | Gnome is good for people who utilize it | 13:18 |
fsmithred | looks like it belongs on a phone, not a computer | 13:18 |
hiya | Really? | 13:19 |
fsmithred | well, maybe a tablet, too | 13:19 |
fsmithred | I'm not into the whole touch-screen fad | 13:19 |
Acacia | Debian is a server OS so having an UI at all is a bad idea, but it's fine as long as the user can still pick a commandline-only ISO. | 13:21 |
Acacia | hiya: If you're willing to go through lots of configuration you might want to try a WM like Openbox, i3, fvwm. Otherwise I recommend trying LXDE/LXQT for a light DE. | 13:22 |
fsmithred | openbox with lxpanel is pretty simple and friendly | 13:24 |
hiya | Acacia, No I am not | 14:06 |
hiya | Can someone help me with default desktop screenshot for latest? | 14:07 |
gnarface | why don't you try booting a livecd? | 14:09 |
gnarface | or just hit google image search | 14:09 |
hiya | gnarface, Yes doing it | 14:09 |
hiya | thanks for now | 14:10 |
The_Lord_of_the_ | hi | 22:01 |
aitor | who is the The_Lord_of_t...? | 22:08 |
aitor | The Lord of the Swallows? | 22:08 |
golinux | aitor: The_Lord_of_the_ was a drive by . . . | 22:21 |
MinceR | a drive-by greeting | 22:26 |
MinceR | those are rare | 22:26 |
]BFG[ | flies lord of lies | 23:02 |
aitor | only golinux can run the backend of simple-netaid without granted permissions, our den mather | 23:08 |
aitor | *mother | 23:11 |
aitor | JBFG: nothing to do with the Lord of the Flies (William Golding) | 23:38 |
aitor | hi fsmithred | 23:46 |
fsmithred | hi aitor | 23:47 |
aitor | hi :) | 23:47 |
fsmithred | how's it going? | 23:47 |
aitor | i'm finishing the third version of simple-netaid, the second version never exited, this is like amplolla! | 23:49 |
fsmithred | lol | 23:49 |
aitor | yes:) | 23:50 |
aitor | is there any relationship between simple-netaid and the neverending story (by Michael Ende)? | 23:53 |
fsmithred | I would not know | 23:53 |
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