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goo_ | hey, I'd need help solving an issue with apt on a debootstrapped ascii armhf system | 11:05 |
goo_ | basically, whenever I try to install something, be it by doing `apt upgrade` or `apt install <pkg>` it just hangs at 0% [Waiting for headers] | 11:06 |
KatolaZ | goo_: which repos are you using? | 11:07 |
goo_ | I tried modifying the /etc/apt/sources.list mirror since it originally was `http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged` and was not working | 11:07 |
KatolaZ | goo_: are you sure you have internet connection? | 11:07 |
goo_ | I changed it to `http://deb.devuan.org/merged` but it still isn't working | 11:07 |
goo_ | yep | 11:07 |
KatolaZ | (silly question, I know...) | 11:07 |
goo_ | also if I do like `apt install --print-uris <pkg>` and try to wget the resulting URL it downloads the package just fine | 11:08 |
goo_ | ask me for anything you need, I'd be very grateful if anyone could help | 11:10 |
KatolaZ | hold on | 11:10 |
KatolaZ | pkgmaster is working all right over here | 11:10 |
KatolaZ | and so are deb.devuan.org | 11:11 |
goo_ | I can try using the pkgmaster mirror again but I highly doubt that'll change anything | 11:11 |
KatolaZ | goo_: it must be something on your side I guess | 11:11 |
goo_ | yeah I guess | 11:12 |
goo_ | but I can connect to the mirror just fine | 11:12 |
goo_ | like wget works, it's just apt that doesn't | 11:12 |
goo_ | pinging it works | 11:12 |
KatolaZ | goo_: ping is not relevant | 11:14 |
KatolaZ | it could also be disabled :) | 11:14 |
KatolaZ | and you still could connect to the http server there | 11:15 |
goo_ | yeah it was just to say that it definitely isn't a connectivity problem | 11:16 |
KatolaZ | goo_: apt-cache policy bash | 11:17 |
goo_ | bash: Installed: 4.4-5 Candidate: 4.4-5 Version table: *** 4.4-5 500 500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii/main armhf Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status | 11:23 |
KatolaZ | goo_: please use pkgmaster.devuan.org until we understand what's going on | 11:25 |
KatolaZ | (despite it shouldn't make any difference at all...) | 11:25 |
KatolaZ | goo_: are you able to do an apt-get update cleanly? | 11:25 |
goo_ | hang on a sec I will connect from my phone | 11:29 |
goo_ | yeah so apt update seems to work | 11:33 |
KatolaZ | ave you tried apt-get install? | 11:34 |
KatolaZ | (it shouldn't change much) | 11:34 |
goo_ | yeah same issue | 11:34 |
xrogaan | been some cert update recently | 11:38 |
xrogaan | oh, https://www.cacert.org/ is unreachable because unsecure. Ironic. | 11:40 |
KatolaZ | xrogaan: goo_ is not using https | 11:41 |
KatolaZ | and there has been no cert update on pkgmaster | 11:41 |
goo_ | yeah | 11:41 |
goo_ | I think I might be missing some dependencies or library | 11:41 |
goo_ | can you make a list of apt dependencies? | 11:42 |
xrogaan | I was talking about myself KatolaZ, sorry to intrude on the conversation. | 11:42 |
KatolaZ | apt-cache show apt | 11:42 |
KatolaZ | oh sorry xrogaan :\ | 11:42 |
KatolaZ | goo_: but that would be VERY strange | 11:42 |
KatolaZ | goo_: do you have dselect installed? | 11:43 |
xrogaan | I'm pretty sure I got some certificate updates. | 11:43 |
* KatolaZ resurrects dead bodies every now and then... | 11:43 | |
goo_ | I don't think I have dselect | 11:44 |
goo_ | how to list installed packages? | 11:45 |
fsmithred | dpkg -l | 11:46 |
xrogaan | goo_: are you using ipv6 or ipv4? Might be silly, but the devuan mirrors under ipv6 are pretty slow on my end. | 11:47 |
goo_ | my ISP doesn't support ipv6 so I'm pretty confident it's not using it | 11:48 |
goo_ | unless that's actually the problem and it's trying to use it while it can't | 11:48 |
xrogaan | anyhow, during the update of ca-certificates this one got added: subject=C = CN, O = "GUANG DONG CERTIFICATE AUTHORITY CO.,LTD.", CN = GDCA TrustAUTH R5 ROOT | 11:49 |
xrogaan | That's quite suspicious. | 11:49 |
djph | I don't think 'suspicious' begins to describe it. | 11:52 |
xrogaan | GDCA TrustAUTH R5 ROOT, in the debian changelog | 11:53 |
xrogaan | also they removed equifax CA, so it's not all bad. | 11:53 |
fsmithred | goo_, did you post about this problem on the forum or the mailing list? | 11:54 |
xrogaan | goo_: if your system is configured to use ipv4, it should default on ipv4. | 11:54 |
goo__ | nope I didn't post about it | 11:54 |
goo__ | yeah I checked and ipv6 is disabled | 11:55 |
xrogaan | Personally, I made a file /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/99force-ipv4 with `Acquire::ForceIPv4 "true";' in it. | 11:55 |
xrogaan | I needed to sleep yesterday and the rate at which it was downloading meant I had to wait for an hour. | 11:55 |
fsmithred | ok, I think you're not the only one with this problem, but I'm not finding where I read it before. | 11:56 |
goo_ | here https://ibb.co/dnpLRy | 12:01 |
goo_ | it's as if apt doesn't follow redirects | 12:01 |
fsmithred | 0% (Waiting for headers) - I'm sure I saw that posted somewhere recently | 12:03 |
fsmithred | I'll check the mailing list as soon as I can get thunderbird to stop crashing | 12:06 |
goo_ | thank you | 12:06 |
gnarface | goo_: are you running local DNS? | 12:10 |
gnarface | i had a thought about the ipv6 thing | 12:11 |
gnarface | i think bind9 used to get wonky if you didn't disable ipv6 in its own config when you had no ipv6 upstream | 12:12 |
goo_ | nope I'm using Google's dns | 12:12 |
gnarface | well, i still have intermittent failures with deb.devuan.org | 12:14 |
gnarface | but mostly it works if i retry once or twice | 12:14 |
gnarface | i don't think all the mirrors are actually ok | 12:15 |
KatolaZ | goo_: are you sure your local debian repo is working? | 12:15 |
KatolaZ | I mean, what happens if you try to get to deb.debian.org? | 12:15 |
goo_ | what do you mean? | 12:15 |
goo_ | oh | 12:15 |
goo_ | it works, like, I can even manually download packages from it using wget | 12:15 |
KatolaZ | mmmpf | 12:16 |
rrq | interesting .. I get a 2 redirects, the last to http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/... with a 404 response..?? | 12:54 |
rrq | same for pkgmaster as for deb | 12:55 |
KatolaZ | rrq: ? | 12:55 |
rrq | just trying 'wget -S -O/dev/null http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged...' | 12:55 |
rrq | and 'wget -S -O/dev/null http://deb.devuan.org/merged...' | 12:55 |
KatolaZ | rrq: are you sure the package is there? | 12:56 |
KatolaZ | (the one you are trying to wget) | 12:56 |
rrq | no; I copied the url (from goo_'s image) | 12:56 |
KatolaZ | mmmhhh | 12:56 |
rrq | ah maybe mis-copied.... | 12:56 |
rrq | no.. correctly copied (let me veirfy a 5:th time...) | 12:57 |
fsmithred | I can't find the post I saw that had the same problem. | 12:58 |
KatolaZ | not found here as well | 12:58 |
rrq | ok mis-copied... eventually 2 redirect and a download | 12:59 |
KatolaZ | hold on | 12:59 |
KatolaZ | yep it's a 404 | 13:01 |
KatolaZ | I got the url from Packages.xz | 13:01 |
rrq | afk | 13:01 |
KatolaZ | oh ok | 13:02 |
KatolaZ | he needs to get the updates I guess | 13:02 |
KatolaZ | asci-updates | 13:02 |
KatolaZ | ascii-updates | 13:02 |
KatolaZ | parazyd: you around ^^^ | 13:03 |
KatolaZ | but that's really strange.... | 13:04 |
KatolaZ | so it seems like the package is not available from Debian repos | 13:06 |
KatolaZ | oh no wait | 13:06 |
KatolaZ | it's there | 13:06 |
rrq | evidently http://pkgmaster.devuan.org redirects to http://deb.debian.org (with other path) then to cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org (with that path), and I'm getting it from there | 13:06 |
KatolaZ | http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/libe/libevent/libevent-2.0-5_2.0.21-stable-3_armhf.deb | 13:06 |
KatolaZ | it's definitely there | 13:07 |
KatolaZ | I had mistyped the url as well | 13:08 |
rrq | maybe deb.debian.org resolves slowly for goo_ ? | 13:09 |
KatolaZ | I can get it either through ftp.debian.org or through deb.debian.org | 13:09 |
* KatolaZ shrugs | 13:10 | |
goo_ | KatolaZ: hey my connection dropped apparently but I think I've read something about ascii-updates? | 13:21 |
goo_ | oh i read the logs from botbotme | 14:08 |
goo_ | I think my problem is that apt doesn't follow redirects | 14:08 |
goo_ | like as soon as it gets a 302 it hangs | 14:08 |
parazyd | KatolaZ: What's up? | 14:19 |
KatolaZ | parazyd: goo_ ^^^ | 15:06 |
parazyd | Is there something wrong with the url we're serving? | 15:08 |
KatolaZ | nope | 15:14 |
KatolaZ | curl/wget work fine | 15:15 |
KatolaZ | follow the redirects and get the file | 15:15 |
KatolaZ | so no idea | 15:15 |
parazyd | apt might hang sometimes... goo_ can try an `apt update` again and installing the package again. | 15:15 |
filipdevuan | hi, uhh finally home!! i tried antergos with KDE plasma and it was awful battery was running low like crazy!!! worse than windows 10 hahah | 16:46 |
filipdevuan | anyways im trying to run dvd movie under VLC but it wont load ;/ | 16:46 |
filipdevuan | in antergos open media from disc was sda1 i think or something like that but here my disc device is /media/cdrom0 | 16:47 |
filipdevuan | and i remember i have had something like linux-firmware in my synaptic or something like that not sure if that was firmware though | 16:53 |
filipdevuan | ok nvm got it | 16:54 |
golinux | filipdevuan: Try /dev/sr0 | 16:55 |
filipdevuan | w8 ill reboot | 16:56 |
filipdevuan | brb | 16:56 |
filipdevuan | yeah well it reads the dvd cuz i have title of the movie but vlc just doesnt wanna play maybe its codecs | 16:59 |
filipdevuan | okay its probably lack of libdvd-pkg im downloading it now from package manager and see if that does it | 17:02 |
golinux | libdvdcss2? To handle any decryption | 17:07 |
golinux | Mine is from debian multimedia but I got it a long time ago. | 17:08 |
filipdevuan | yeah libdvdcss2 now its stuck on processing triggers for libc-bin | 17:10 |
filipdevuan | libdvd-pkg: dpkg database is locked. You may need to use command "sudo dpkg-reconfigure libdvd-pkg". | 17:11 |
filipdevuan | libdvd-pkg: Building and installation of package(s) [libdvdcss2 libdvdcss-dev] postponed till after next APT operation. | 17:11 |
filipdevuan | Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.24-11+deb9u3) ... | 17:11 |
filipdevuan | right | 17:11 |
filipdevuan | ok it works now sorry for spam ;). | 17:12 |
filipdevuan | yeah nice well i went for a bonfire party to my friends yesterday and i brought laptop with antergos KDE plasma and i was so disappointed with the battery lol, so i thought omg i have go back to devuan | 17:13 |
filipdevuan | today im going again so we're gonna watch movies properly on devuan ;P | 17:13 |
_stephen_ | Weird, I can't find xv... anyone know what package provides it? | 18:03 |
_stephen_ | I tried apt-file but I still can't find it. | 18:03 |
fsmithred | xv-utils | 18:04 |
_stephen_ | Which repo is that in? | 18:04 |
fsmithred | wrong name - hang on | 18:04 |
fsmithred | oh, I'm thinking of xz | 18:05 |
fsmithred | you're looking for compression or viewing images? | 18:06 |
_stephen_ | I was trying to debug an icon placement problem someone was having. | 18:06 |
_stephen_ | But I don't have it with other apps, so I wanted to install xv where they were having the problem. | 18:06 |
fsmithred | there are some xview packages - not sure if that's what you want | 18:07 |
fsmithred | bbl | 18:08 |
KatolaZ | _stephen_: xv is not free-software, IIRC | 18:09 |
_stephen_ | I generally just use image magick for that kind of thing | 18:10 |
KatolaZ | yep | 18:10 |
KatolaZ | that should be enough, right? | 18:10 |
_stephen_ | Unfortunately it doesn't help me determine if the xv app is trying to set its own icon position if I can't actually run it. | 18:11 |
_stephen_ | I saw an email to the fvwm mailing list, it described a problem, I tested the same steps with a different app, didn't see the problem, and went looking for xv in the repos. | 18:14 |
_stephen_ | I found xloadimage with the "xview" command, but that doesn't have the problem either, so I don't know what happened to xv... | 18:15 |
goo__ | parazyd: tried re-running `apt update` and installing again, doesn't fix it | 18:24 |
_stephen_ | KatolaZ heh, apparently it's shareware/commercial, I went looking for source and found a credit card purchase option. | 18:30 |
KatolaZ | _stephen_: it has always been like that | 18:33 |
KatolaZ | (xv being proprietary) | 18:34 |
goo_ | oh, looks like if i chroot into the devuan system it works | 18:41 |
goo_ | this is so weird | 18:41 |
KatolaZ | goo_: ... | 18:42 |
KatolaZ | you must chroot into the devuan system, right? | 18:42 |
goo_ | i can also boot directly into it | 18:42 |
goo_ | and it doesnt work that way | 18:42 |
KatolaZ | mmm | 18:42 |
KatolaZ | goo_: are you sure you don't have any strange mount options on /var for instance? | 18:43 |
KatolaZ | apt needs to create a couple lock files in there... | 18:43 |
goo_ | no, but I just noticed the loopback interface wasn't up | 18:45 |
goo_ | though bringing it up doesn't solve it | 18:45 |
KatolaZ | are you sure yo have networking whan you boot into your new image? | 18:47 |
KatolaZ | (silly question I know) | 18:48 |
goo_ | well I'd assume so since i can wget stuff | 18:51 |
KatolaZ | goo_: do you have a separate /var? | 18:52 |
goo_ | nope | 19:07 |
goo_ | I tried reinstalling `apt` with `apt-get install --reinstall apt` and it doesn't make a difference, I also tried installing `aptitude` and using it and it still doesn't work | 19:40 |
goo_ | I had a look into the network config by comparing my normal debian system's `ip link` and `ip addr` output with the devuan system one and they're the same | 19:40 |
goo_ | /etc/resolv.conf are the same | 19:40 |
goo_ | I can't get my head around this | 19:41 |
Akuli | can someone check which version of iwyu does the latest devuan come with? i spent a long time trying to compile a new iwyu, and i might start using devuan on this system if the iwyu in the repositories turns out to be new enough for me | 19:56 |
KatolaZ | Akuli: pkginfo.devuan.org | 19:57 |
Akuli | thanks | 19:57 |
Akuli | yay, new enough :D | 19:58 |
Digit | well, my xmonad has somehow gotten itself locked into fullscreen on all workspaces (idk, i didnt change its config). so, i'm gonna use this time to do that upgrade i've been putting off. n_n | 20:07 |
Digit | here's to breaking everything running, & needing a restart. | 20:08 |
mtnman | quit | 20:41 |
grillon | hi there | 21:44 |
hiya | So, I am done downloading it | 21:48 |
hiya | I want to make a live USB | 21:48 |
hiya | What command is good? | 21:48 |
hiya | devuan_ascii_2.0.0_amd64_desktop-live.iso | 21:48 |
hiya | is what I have downloaded | 21:48 |
serenity_ | join biology | 21:50 |
* Digit is currently doing dd if=heads-0.4-amd64-live.iso of=/dev/sdg1 | 21:52 | |
Digit | hiya, ^ similarly would be: dd if=devuan_ascii_2.0.0_amd64_desktop-live.iso of=/dev/sdg1 ... but make sure you have the right location. dd is dangerous, wont ask if you're sure, n wont be stopped by things like permissions. | 21:54 |
hiya | Found it | 21:54 |
hiya | Done with it Digit | 21:54 |
hiya | Now, I need to reboot and check | 21:54 |
Digit | same. tho i'm also waiting on an upgrade. :) | 21:55 |
hiya | Digit, What upgrade? | 21:59 |
hiya | you want debian testing? | 21:59 |
Digit | just upgrading my devuan ceres. long overdue. | 22:00 |
hiya | ok | 22:00 |
hiya | I am rebooting | 22:01 |
hiya | meet you in 15-20 mins post testing | 22:01 |
Digit | well, managed to test mine on my laptop. something didnt take. ... wondering if i got ripped off on this pendrive, or if i didnt issue the command correctly, or... checking the list of things. | 22:05 |
debdog | Digit is currently doing dd if=heads-0.4-amd64-live.iso of=/dev/sdg1 <-- shouldn't that be just /dev/sdg? | 22:06 |
* Digit snaps his fingers and points | 22:07 | |
debdog | also, in many cases the cp command does the trick as well | 22:07 |
Digit | hopefully hiya sorted their own before i went advising wrongness. | 22:07 |
]BFG[ | key for a perfect system: dd if=/lib/systemd/systemd of=/dev/sda | 22:13 |
]BFG[ | everything you will ever need | 22:13 |
* Digit screams in horror, has a panic attack, projectile vomits, and spasms about in seizure | 22:14 | |
Digit | ]BFG[: careful! some of us are dealing with ptsd from systemdont. ;p | 22:14 |
MinceR | can The Holy UEFI boot it that way? | 22:15 |
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